UFO wreckage could help SpaceX build a better Starship!! Here's how!
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- Starship's heat shield is one of the biggest challenges facing SpaceX Starship. But UFO wreckage, recovered last year, could help Elon Musk build a heat shield superior to anything created by human technology!
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Dear viewers,
If you don't like the UFO videos, SKIP THEM!
But I've found a topic that I happen to like that has also attracted tens of thousands of new viewers.
My most popular video EVER is now a UFO title.
This is what the viewers want. It's also what I want.
The majority of my content is still Spaceflight. I release more content than any space related channel.
Just watch the stuff you like, ignore the rest, and don't let narrow mindedness control your decisions!
Starliner in-flight movie for return should be Marooned.
As much as I love space I do think your ufo shows are good. I do appreciate the level of skepticism you bring to the matter because it is real, serious, and does need to be talked about in a scientific way rather than fanatically following stories.
Don't even listen to these these people angry. They heard the word UFO and stopped listening to your entire video. I found it pretty informative about objects from Interstellar space
So there.
The truth is always narrow: so narrow that it renders all other possibilities fallacies. Just like you must lie to flerf, to advocate flat earth, it's necessary to lie to claim there's evidence of alien civilization visiting Earth.
My shining example is Avi Loeb, with David Fravor not far behind. Hiding cowardly behind their normally respectable occupations and positions they prove in plain sight that nothing they say can be trusted.
Hawking conspiracy theories about how science, governments and NASA hare engaged in a world-wide conspiracy to deceive the world and hide "the truth" is not a harmless lark that can be ignored. It is an attack on the currency of all civilization, the trust that binds us together and protects the weak against the thuggery that will prevail if these reality denialists prevail.
So no, just ignoring the disinformation that underlines alien enthusiasm and flat earth fraud isn't an option. As Sabine Hossenfeld says in her video ruclips.net/video/TW6hgOc3wuI/видео.htmlsi=Uq8vXVrJt7Gx12sw, this foolishness is not harmless. Also see her video (she's a physicist. I get my information from experts, not speculators) on power beamed from space ruclips.net/video/QyPOPfFvJ8A/видео.html, and her video on quantum bullschnitzel ruclips.net/video/uKVJEuVkPvws/видео.html. You'll find actual science much more interesting and more challenging than the denialist's delusions.
Seek truth from the only people actually looking for it: scientists, astronomers, university research centers. Alien civilization enthusiasts who misunderstand the science publications, don't know how spacecraft work, understand nothing about orbital mechanics, don't even know that the Starliner is aerodynamically stable and doesn't need the thrusters to work in able to return astronauts safely to Earth (although the parachutes have to work, at least two of them) are not the people you should rely on for more than reaction to the real information out there.
Imagine how the astronauts on Columbia felt when they saw this same thing going on when they looked out the window and saw the wing falling apart as it melted...May they rest in peace. ..
Aliens watching the video:
"What's this angry little astronaut complaining about? He should've seen OUR ships at that stage of development...those ships were a nightmare."
As did all the others. . . It's a progressive sort of thing. `Practice makes perfect, right? Just like how Elon is doing with SpaceX. This jump has to be done alone, without assistance, along with a couple other bits of up coming technology, first. But you already know that, right?
@@Absalon68 I'm pretty sure SpaceX is just testing software at this time...
@@taiwanluthiers That would be simplistic for Elon's way of things.. It's always been an "All or Nothing" sort of attitude with him.
Most likely life didn't evolve on a planet where rocket based propulsion was feasible. Something like 25% more mass than earth has and we would never be able to make it out of the atmosphere with rocketry is my understanding.
@@ormrinn True in my book... It's suspected that most habitable planets with space faring entities have a lower gravity, and / or atmosphere density as well. . . And may not have a version of our Van Adreian Radiation Belts ether...
Even if not UFO wreckage, the compound has proven heat resistance and suggests better formulations. Nature has many answers if we know how to ask the questions.
Re-entry tiles must be extremely light and capable of ablation to keep the craft light enough for economical flights and to take the maximum heat off of the interior craft.
@@stevedwyer8333 The right material can be extremely light by being thin or by being made of very tough/heat resistant compound that can be spun/aerated such as a heat-resistant, super-strong aerogel type material. The later, no ablation cooling needed; insulation alone does the trick.
Another option, multiple super thin (like less than ten atoms thick) designed to evaporate or sublimate one layer at a time, each layer needing more heat as it goes into denser atmosphere.
No it is not a fair comparison, because the Orion spaceship uses an ablative heat shield that is only used once and is not intended to be resuseable. Issues are that it might not work even once. Starship is intended to be rapidly reuse
able and that is a harder problem to solve so to be expected they have not yet nailed all of that, but enough so it did survive to a soft landing Not yet ready for people on board though.
Musk didn't say the reaction fins were not intended to survive. He said an unshielded steel fin is not supposed to be able to survive re-entry. From the video footage it appears the pivot point of the fin allowed plasma to get under the shield and erode it. Shielding a moving joint is entirely different than Shielding the fuselage that is stationary and has no movement forces being put on it.
Yeah indeed, angry seems to keep on ignoring this, negative point's from my side.
That's what I thought Elon meant too.
And doesn't Star Ship 2 have the fins further up (i.e. away from the belly side), so more shielded from the plasma by the body?
I said the same thing. thats what i heard. but whatever... Aliens eh?
I hope its clear that even unshielded steel fin SHOULD be design to survive re-entry, at least as much as possible. We cannot allow another Columbia. And whoever designed that fin did an amazing job🎖
@@4rrxw794Starship went through more abuse than Columbia and still landed.
Excellent, we all should be open-minded on this subject, whatever it was, it was strong enough survive the impact to reach the lower reaches of the atmosphere very Worth investigating
He only meant that without the heat shield, the flap wasn’t supposed to survive
yeah, it was pretty clear and I am definitely not an Elon fanboy.
I've never seen so many interpretations of what this guy says since my Bible debate class.
@@TheAngryAstronaut Would you not say that the pivoting fins are a little more complicated to shield than say they simple shape of the bottom of the Orion capsule? Spacex is really doing something that has not been done before since maybe the shuttle.
@@brantleyrobbins7188Even the Shuttle had basically fixed wings with very few control surfaces, nothing like the Starship fins. It’s going to take a lot more engineering to prevent heat ingress
Bro is more likely to believe that UFOs and aliens exist than he is to believe that starship could actually work
They do
@@roberthatch6153 please show the evidence.
@@stiffydart1558 They wish it were true. That's all the evidence they have. They wish so hard that the universe is absolutely compelled to obey.
They do exist. So, do you. UAP are real, have been for a very long time. The universe is full of life. Stop choosing ignorance, sir.
@@tjolofree1134 See? You're my poster child that you believe the contents of your imagination compel the universe into obedience. Balderdash! Stop choosing ignorance, sir. The evidence says there isn't a single supporting observation of alien civilization, or even alien life anywhere in any degree.
Were the universe "full of life" they would be obvious, just like it is obvious that the universe is full of stars.
Oh brother; we are on a roll this week.
If we actually had UFO technology reverse engineered - we can now confirm (many multiple times) why the aliens 👽 crashed.
The 2014 meteor was primarily made of Inconel / iron, and yes we do use these material on SpaceX rockets.
We watched the last space X test. It was so interesting to see the ablation of the canard upon re-entry. Great channel and im sure that with covering uap your channel will attract more people than the channel loses. 👍🏼
That one flying over the city was from a "Aviation Fireworks Show". Probably from the "Bandit Flight Team". Search here for that... In other words, an aircraft with fireworks attached to the wings. Very cool and fun to watch.
Great video! ❤❤❤
Orion's heat shield is having problems because they changed it. The one used in 2014 used a cellular construction, where the ablative was injected into the holes of a honeycomb structure. The Artemis 1 capsule changed to blocks of ablative in an attempt to speed up manufacture. The 2014 version was essentially the same as used on Apollo, while the Aretemis 1 heat shield was a prototype
If we could only figure out how to manipulate gravity and create a bubble like the ufo’s do, we wouldn’t have to worry about heat shields on re-entry. Another reason why it is so important for the release of information on UAP. We should have as many scientific minds as we can available to research gravity.
Don't need any UFO to figure that out. Its been examined for decades, yet they still don't know how they work.
A gravity bubble; that is known for over a century. The material science still isn't up to the task. This needs real high speeds, and several at once, if it is supposed to be controllable.
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How do you know what the ufo's do? Are you an alien? Are you in the employ of aliens? We should maybe be careful of you.
We don't really know what gravity is, or how it works. We only know what it does. Anybody claiming otherwise is lying.
@@mauricegold9377 And we understand what gravity does so well,. The formula describing its action, F = G * m1 * m2 / d^2, spacecraft have landed on Venus, Earth, the Moon, Mars, Titan, Churyumov-Gerasimenko. Bennu and Ryugyu. They have rendezvoused and orbited Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, Pluto, Comets Halley, Giacobini-Zinner, Gaspra, Ida, Dactyl, Geographos, Mitilde, Eros, Wild 2, Itokawa, Tempel, minor planets Vesta, Ceres, and new missions are headed to many other solar system bodies, precisely navigating using Newton's law of gravity to their destinations, even to a specific asteroid in the Kuiper Belt, three times the distance to Pluto. These flights and the paths of all the thousands of solar system objects demonstrate that gravity and only gravity holds the solar system together and organizes its movements. Yes, we understand and use gravity well. We are like a piano player, who can't make a piano, but plays it magnificently.
In our hubris, we take our deep understanding of what gravity does and simply claim therefore to know what it is and what is the mechanism of its function. Scientists don't have a clue, and they say so, but the flat earth/electromagnetic universe/UFO enthusiast conspiracy enthusiast crowds are united in their central message: Experts can't be trusted. For hundreds of years all experts have been in a worldwide, airtight, secret conspiracy to lie to humanity for.......reasons I guess. As ridiculous as the underpinnings of these quaint enthusiasms are, the adherents blast us with misinformation, disinformation and then dare us to call wolf.
"Our hobby is just fun1" "But I've found a topic that I happen to like that has also attracted tens of thousands of new viewers. My most popular video EVER is now a UFO title."_ Eric Dubay's RUclips video _"Adolf Hitler vs The Jew World Order: ruclips.net/video/ssCkc8t9sho/видео.html was his most popular video. He hid his real beliefs (he doesn't really believe Earth has a fart's chance in a hurricane of being Flatopia, but he sincerely believes that _"Adolf Hitler was actually a vegetarian, animal-lover, an author, an artist, a political activist, economic reformer and nominated for a Nobel Peace prize. He enacted the world's first anti-animal cruelty, anti-pollution, and anti-smoking laws. Unlike the demonic portrait that the Allies painted of him, Hitler was beloved by his people, he wanted nothing but peace, and never ordered the extermination of a single Jew. The largely Jewish-controlled mainstream media has ever since painted an evil picture of Hitler and the Jew World Order has even enacted laws in 16 European countries prohibiting free-speech on the issues of Judaism, Hitler and the Holocaust. I have compiled/edited this comprehensive documentary in the hopes of shedding light on one of the darkest secrets in world history."_ Dubay is so canny that he isolated his real beliefs on another channel so as not to offend his Flatopian Fraternity. They know his Nazi core but can and do safely ignore it. RUclips has since banned his Nazi channel but left his Flatopian channel untouched. His discoples still quote his lies as seminal evidence of flat Earth.
Dubay loves his lies about Dolf. Angry Astronaut loves his gross speculation about the Roscharch Chart that is UFOlogy. But like all Roscharch Charts, intense belief in imaginary things says more about Angry Astronaut's and other Alien enthusiasts' imaginations than it does about the actual state of knowledge as to whether UAPs are alien visitation. When we get the answers, they will come from the physicists, chemists, astronomers and other experts that AA and acolytes try to tear down. These "bad" people are the only people actually researching the subject AA says he enjoys. If they succeed in destroying public trust in these experts, in not telling the truth about the papers they write, in selling the hallucination that they operate as an authoritarian self-protection society, there will be no more science. There will be no answers to the questions Angry Astronaut claims to want the answers to.
The truth is that all these conspiracy theories are about is a sincere belief that the contents of their brains are so powerful they compel the universe to obey. They believe that truth is within and they are the arbiters of that truth. In fact, truth is alien. It is outside our consciousness, is indifferent as to whether we desire it or fear it. Truth is usually unwelcome and unimagined. It is found outside our knowledge, comprehension and abilities. We have to grow the capabilities we have to use the truth we find to help, not destroy society. The people who actually do that, the ONLY ones, are the scientists, physicists, chemists, astronomers, materials experts, teachers, doctors, teachers and political leaders the reality denialists paint as the opressors of mankind.
This stuff has to be fought and it has to be utterly discredited. The power of "I want to believe" is so strong the Avi Loeb, David Fravor and others can actually publish the truth that they are misrepresenting the truth and people simply drink the "I want to believe" koolaid to swallow their lies. That is not harmless. The danger cannot be overlooked. It must be confronted and destroyed.
Numbers of views are frank invitations for us to tell the truth to a larger audience. That is a responsibility I won't shirk.
@@mauricegold9377 My point exactly! We should have figured it out by now but because the research is so compartmentalized no one knows what they are doing. If we had all possible scientific minds working on it, we could figure it out.
long discussion paraphrased through LLM:
Creating a heat shield that incorporates beryllium, uranium oxide, and an ablative material involves a complex chemical composition that must be engineered to maximize heat resistance, thermal management, and safety, especially concerning radiation. Here’s a more detailed look at what such a composition might entail and its potential working temperature range. Composite Chemical Composition: - Beryllium: Beryllium could be used in its metallic form or as beryllium oxide (BeO). Beryllium oxide is notable for its high melting point and excellent thermal conductivity. It could serve as a matrix in which other materials are embedded. - Uranium Oxide: Typically, uranium dioxide (UO2) is used in nuclear applications due to its stability at high temperatures and its ability to act as a nuclear fuel. In this context, it could be used to enhance the thermal mass and radiation shielding properties of the composite. - Ablative Material: Common ablative materials include carbon phenolics and silica-based composites. These materials char and ablate away to remove heat from the shield through sublimation and endothermic decomposition. - Binder/Matrix Material: A matrix or binder material would be necessary to hold these components together, likely a high-temperature resin or a ceramic matrix that can itself withstand the extreme conditions of re-entry. Hypothetical Composition: - Core Composition: A layered structure where a central layer of uranium oxide is sandwiched between layers of beryllium or beryllium oxide, all embedded in an ablative matrix such as carbon phenolic or silica. - Outer Surface: The outermost surface exposed to re-entry heat would be predominantly ablative material, designed to gradually erode away. - Support Structures: Additional support structures or coatings might be required to ensure structural integrity and to manage thermal expansion and contraction. Working Temperature Range: - Maximum Temperature: The composition would need to withstand the extreme temperatures encountered during re-entry, which can exceed 1,650°C (3,000°F). The actual maximum temperature resistance would depend heavily on the specific formulation and quality of the ablative material. - Operational Range: Ideally, the shield would be effective across a wide range of temperatures: - Low-temperature functionality: It should remain stable and intact during the spaceflight and initial re-entry phases, where temperatures might be much lower. - High-temperature performance: Most critical, the material must perform under the maximum temperature stresses of re-entry, with the ability to withstand and manage heat through ablation and thermal conductivity effectively. Chemical Stability and Interactions: - At High Temperatures: The interaction between beryllium, uranium oxide, and the ablative components at high temperatures must be understood to prevent chemical reactions that could degrade the material's integrity. - Radiation Effects: The radiation effects on the chemical stability of the matrix and ablative materials must be considered, as radiation could alter chemical bonds and material properties. Conclusion: Developing a heat shield with beryllium, uranium oxide, and ablative materials involves creating a composite that leverages the strengths of each component while managing their interactions and the extreme conditions of space re-entry. Detailed research and testing would be required to develop a formula that offers optimal performance across the necessary temperature range while ensuring safety and stability under operational conditions
I'm quite confident Aliens wouldn't want us hostile humans anyware near there planet .
Keep it up angry! Love the content, i contemplate the topics you cover.
Not that anyone will listen but they use a sputtering magnetron to lay down material atoms at a time and use the cold welding properties of space to weld everything together. You CAN'T cut the hull! The hull is a ginormous integrated chip. Ablaze the hull with a laser and you'll see, all systems are built in to the hull itself.
I suspect they probably create the materials at the elemental level with a particle accelerator to whatever isotope is required for the properties desired.
I listened.
@harleyearl3289 Well, thank you. I'll also mention that according to many RUclips videos, they don't like laser light. Probably for the same reason as human piolets, I imagine it doesn't take much to blind those big light hungry eyes or fry their nav system with lasers. This can be exploited as an access denial system over secure sights. Just bathe the sky with laser light.
@tastyfrzz1 Think of integrated chip manufacturing. Except this is done around the full hull of the ship. They create alloy easily by controlling the deposit of material. Graphene is just an example. They do the same with all elements. Like 3d printing, but again, on the perfection level of a super high quality integrated chip. All system are built into the hull. Nav, life support, weapons all are infused in the few mm thickness of hull. Means no modularity.
@@apocraphontripp4728 How would it fly?
10:03 These were most likely skydivers in formation. I've seen a very similar shot like that, but don't remember where it was off the top of my head.
To be honest it looks like nothing more than a Plane landing right after sunset, in an area next to a mountain range in the west. Contrast on digital cameras does halos JUST like that.
yup
USArmy Black Knights do light shows like this at special events and of course during their training for such events.
@@seanbrockest3888 maybe if it's a Boeing
Elon said they already knew the fin was going to have issues, they have already built the new design fin starship and it will most likely be the next one to fly, they will have to trash two that they already built with the same design as the one that just flew.
When I started following, he did not believe in aliens... Now he's obsessed. Maybe he should do a show explaining the shift
idk about him but the topic got my attention after the grusch hearing, and now i've seen enough to be convinced it's real.
i'm actually embarassed of how rude i was to people that talked things like this before. if anything it was an eye opener to be a little bit more open minded of things i don't actually know.
Heat resistance is not the only attribute reusable heat shields need. They also need to be light enough to take off. Building with a uranium hafnium super-alloy that's about the density of lead, for example, won't fly. Literally.
Now THIS is a story for the history books if this concludes with Loeb assisting Elon w/ next generation heat shields.
Put the alien anti gravity machine device into Starship and remove the fuel mixture and rocket engines.😁👽 Transwarp here we go!😮
It guts me to read things like this on Angry Astronaut.
like what?
@@BattousaiHBr Aliens
@@pruephillip1338 why does that gut you?
@@BattousaiHBr Because I have respect for Angry Astronaut. It's sad that this guy has to go into aliens to get hits on his site - people are not that interested in science and engineering.
@@pruephillip1338 that seems disrespectful.
how do you know he's doing it to get clicks, considering he explicitly says it's a topic he cares about?
both are topics i care about as well. one because i just like technology, and the other because it's the biggest paradigm shift in history and people need to be aware.
Gee, if we're going to use UFO tech, shouldn't we go for full anti-gravity propulsion?
The government reserves that technology for themselves
Already done over 90 years ago. Tesla tech, plus UFO crash tech retrieval .
@@davidlang4442 Nonsense. No-one knows what causes gravity. Mass/energy certainly. But the mechanism is unknown as yet.If you claim that Tesla knew you are lying. Simple.
@@mauricegold9377 Piss off!
Hi angry astronaut 🧑🚀 thanks for this video it was very interesting David 🚀❤️🇬🇧👌👍
More great content! Thanks Angry
Until someone develops and releases some form of gravity repulsion, the fiery, "friction slow-down" is all there is until then. It's a single, but needful step.
Keep doing what you are doing for your New Audience.
I was imagining the other day some type of heat shield "foam" that could be smoothly applied. I even got into looking up the highest strength adhesives on the market and just imagined impregnating it with aerogel or some small carbon bits. Should be something that can be sanded away and reapplied. Tiles will never work.
Keep the Angry Alien videos coming 👍
Proof this guy does not read comments... Elon did NOT say the flaps were not to survive, he said he was surprised it survived AFTER the heat shield came off of it.
Great stuff man thank you
Air display team, close formation, smoke trails and lights.
what about covering the flaps or at least the moving parts of the flaps where the flaps are attached to the fuselage with some flexible material as is being used in the construction of inflatable heat shield? That is flexible material that with stands high temperatures maybe we could prevent hot plasma from entering the mechanism underneath the flab with that.
It seems to me, that we are not simply discussing the material properties of a heat shield, but more significantly, its weight. Without any weight restrictions, I am certain we could use more effective materials, however this is not the case.
Active cooling may be the solution.
They put a Camera that only looks at the fin. They were putting bets on when the fin would fall off. Not if.
They had many more cameras and only showed views from a few.
I’ll bet the nose of Starship was burning up from the beginning and resulted in the storm of incandescent particles whizzing past the rudder.
They knew it was going to be an issue, they have already built the starship with the new design flaps.
Yes they haven't touched the flaps for years, they stopped working on them back when they were flying water towers. They basically stopped fussing with them until they could fly good, which is now. New flappy should be buff
I was waiting for an explanation as to how exactly this wreckage could help SpaceX.
They should tell Elon they found part of a Full Self Driving ship, that will get him interested!
Meteorite survival may be increased if it's rotating. The heat has time to dissipate. Pressure is a different matter.
5:56 what's more likely, the meteorite was LARGER than stated, or was an exotic Alien spacecraft using technology we can't begin to understand!!!!
GREAT EPISODE!
Yes, I hope you manage to connect Elon Musk and Avi Loeb and a superior re-entry heat shield material is a result.
Success is not guaranteed, but is a possible outcome as Elon would say.
If weight wasn't an issue, heat shielding would be easy. The big question would be how heavy/dense it the material?
Quartz infused plates would make a good heat shield it contains the thermal energy pretty dang well
Enjoyed the video.
Maybe they should make the flaps and hinges out of tungsten or a tungsten-alloy.
You may not need heat-tiles. This could mean less complexity and maybe a weight-savings?
@1:53 Should have used the original D4H/Orion launch footage...the top of the second stage was almost exactly set up like SLS.
Perhaps a combination of fixed winglets and mini-thrusters would be safer. The pivot points appear to be its Achilles heel.
Orion was a bit short in the moveable aerosurfaces department...
If space is a vacuum void of any kind of gases or water or anything, if it's a vacuum that means a rocket is not going to work you're not going to get past Earth orbit with a rocket and if you do you will continue in that direction for eternity until you hit something at the same speed that you left orbit. you won't slow down you won't speed up I guess it could be possible that the gravity of another planet could slingshot you to make you go faster or slow you down but you will continue in that trajectory until you hit something or not and continue on for eternity
I hope Dr. Loeb finds a large chunk of meteor.
Looking at the viewing numbers of your UFO videos I wouldn't worry much about the people that complain about them.
I’m doing my utmost to play at least one and maybe more at times. It wouldn’t seem so bad if they weren’t so repetitive.
real uap negate needing a heat shield due to they stand still and its space that is moved around them. like in some coputer games where the player stands still and the whole world is moved around the player.
My thoughts exactly. That’s why it’s so important that all information on UAP be released. We should have every available scientist researching the manipulation of gravity and how to create a gravity bubble or an Alcubierri drive.
Well easier than that. You don't need gravity impulse to accelerate or decelerate. You can hover at a slower speed where air friction does not generate hot plasma. Therefore there is no need to any type of heat shield
"uap" by definition means it can be anything, so you can't say anything about how it works...
(Btw, according to Einsteins relativity theory, what you say applies to literally everything in the universe)
Maybe get rid of rockets entirely. The propulsion technology is already 90 years old. Non-reactive propulsion with a plasma shield protecting the vehicle from the effects of friction. These vehicles can also travel under the surface of the ocean at velocities over 700 kilometres per hour.
But ....I thought Elon WAS an alien.🤔
SpaceX has a new version of the heat tile that they claim is two times tougher. Does that mean it is going to stay on better but it sounds like it's certainly an improvement and will be in use soon.
I think the word, or the letters, UFO should not be used for any other object that fell from space other than those allegedly made by intelligent alien civilisations. In this episode the object is from space but it’s not clear, until bigger pieces are recovered, whether it is naturally exotic and super strong alloys or made by an alien civilisation. The title should be ‘asteroid with strange composition that survived re-entry’ to replace just ‘UFO’!
There are plenty of materials that would be more robust as a heatshield than what is currently used. It will be difficult to beat the effectiveness to weight ratio of ceramic foam.
Spectacular possibilities hereabouts!!!
I like both
NASA solved the hinge / plasma problem with the shuttle program over 40 years ago. LOL
And frankly the idea with alien alloys is pretty intriguing but it sounds like this is very heavy material and Elon Musk will never go for heavy materials because he wants to keep starship as light as possible in order to increase the payload
UFO wreckage could help Earthlings build better spaceships.
There is no need for heatshields at all if Starship had nuclear powered engines. It would simply decelerate enough above Karman line and enter atmosphere like the booster does.
Actually if starship (or any other spacecraft) was nuclear powered it would NEVER EVER enter the atmosphere period.
Thank you for the clarification about how viewing a minimum of the advertising time aids your channel. I used to fast fore ward through them out of habit. I shall adapt.
wondering why we cant see the video refreshed it several times but it goes all funny
The material suggested is too dense. As is the idea to use it.
Should we shut down the starship program and wait 10 years to discover this species of unobtainium?
It is always best to follow a decent plan today in favor of the perfect plan we won't have in 10 years.
As I'm sure you know Jordan, how far a meteor gets through the atmosphere very much depends on what it is made of. A chondrite (stoney) one will almost certainly burn/break up due to it's more frangible nature but if it's a nickel/iron meteor of reasonable size, it won't matter how steep or shallow it hits the atmosphere (if it doesn't skip off back into space), it will easily make it to the Earth's surface intact. They can weigh thousands of tons and one that big would certainly spoil your day. Even smaller ones weighing in the hundred ton class would reach the surface so no real mystery there methinks.
Dude he meant the flap isn't designed to survive without the heat shield not what you're going on about.
Wasn't meant to... but a very desired outcome. He has investors best not discouraged --- and most money people are too shortsighted.
UFOs... Ha-Haaa!!
The "aliens" been playing peek-a-boo with humans for centuries. Maybe that's their favorite federation pastime... They sure ain't built for American football!
Not really worried about the heat shields at this time.
When they realize a 2,000 pound Ufer can lift 100 tons w/o breaking a sweat, they'll get interested.
Yes and maybe those aliens will help us improve sexual performance and cure impotance...
you mentioned beryllium, uranium, but we would appreciate more info and numbers about the alloys or compounds found
SpaceX plans to build thousands of Starships. One of the key features of Starship is its low cost. Where do you plan to find so much material, and what is going to be the price? IMO it's better to develop a heatshield that could be sprayed to the surface after each launch.
Any extra-terrestrial civilisation that can reach us will have more than enough technology to provide all the energy needed to enter our atmosphere with no need for the heating problem we presently seem to be discussing. There are however bound to be alloys with extraordinary properties for us to find.
Avi's interpretation of what he's recovering is interstellar flotsam & jetsam. Even human garbage on our ocean beaches exceeds what a random beachcomber would find deliberately parked. As big as some docks look, the wild beaches are vastly longer.
The assumption would be that the UFO, if it is such a thing was crashing, no one was saying this is a craft that "landing"
The Angry Astronaut suggests that SpaceX should use Alien technology with the known heat shield technology.
‘All I have to say is that technology needs to be known before we can use it. Maybe I should be clear that alien tech translated properly is Unknown.’
I have a good idea; we should use Moon Dust on the Starship. I don’t need to explain that regolith at high temperatures is very strong. As the Starship dives through the Earth’s atmosphere, it heats up to make the regolith stronger, I would guess.
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Avi Loeb's spherules ( the jewels of Hercules?) may not offer new tech for heat shields if they are the remnants after what constituted their external heat shield burnt away?
Simply put the antigravity generator - that is my only concern about starship, what if this technology is dropped, disclosed and maybe already in use by humans in earth orbit? The Senate in digging... If David Grusch is correct, exactly this could be the case...
given that failure mode will allow for a crew to survive a ... non optimal entry will they reinforce the flaps or add layers of internal heat protection in case they an issue that pokes a hole in a flap for *whatever* reason?
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I thought this was gonna be cringe but then he said materials /meteors surviving the atmosphere...then I was like...ok...now we talking😂
It would weight 100ton a metal heatshield
It worked for Robert Bigelow
They knew the heat shield on thw wing hinge might experience an issue before it flew, its a moving part. Which bits of the orion capsule heatshield where moving parts? Did Elon refuse you a interview or something
At this point with his alien enthusiasm, Jordan lack any standing to get an interview from Elon Musk. He was building credibility and tossed it away on a wild whim. And now he's not doing basic research to avoid ridiculous statements because he has the idea his UFO enthusiasm has made him self-validating. Leaving the real world, melding the realms of real spaceflight and imagined UFOs will leave this channel with no credibility in either. The universe pays no attention to our delusions. We all have them, but we need to keep them in check to be credible human beings.
The Bruce Sees All channel does this wacko UFO delusion stuff better anyway.
Even if the metal composition could be replicated - I don’t see how it could be used in construction. After all, if it can retain its integrity due to heat resistance - how on earth could it be joined in panels? Welded?
I'm wondering if spacex could augment the heatshield with an electromagnetic field, enhanced by the ions surrounding the forward section of the starship.
Not sure it's fair to compare the strength of what was probably a homogenous solid metallic object (offering no significant weaknesses for fracture) with the strength of a hollow metallic cylinder).
I would be interested in seeing the probable deceleration rate of IM1.
Starship has had too much faith placed in it. It is the BEST ship for interplanetary travel, but not a good landing craft.
First things first: Even if the supposed composition can indeed withstand the stress (and we have to make the stuff and test it first), there's no FREAKING way any regulatory agencies will allow it to fly!
Seems some of the materials include radioactive stuff, that alone will get the authorities very nervous.
Second, SpaceX would have to make the stuff, then test it. This takes years. It's not enough to know the composition of something, you gotta figure out how to manufacture it too. This is before we get into specifics that could make or break it, such as weight! We're not launching solid stainless steel rockets for example. If it were I'm sure it would survive high speed reentry, but we wouldn't get it into orbit in the first place.
A jet engine compressor blade, which must withstand extreme amount of heat for extended period of time, is damn near impossible for a few handful of countries to make. Go look it up, and ponder why jet engines are only made in a handful of countries. Even manufacture of ball point pens at a competitive price is quite the challenge, that China has only recently figured out how to do!
This is like asking Egypt to manufacture N3 node processor chips without TSMC getting involved. You can give them GPU and CPU and other N3 chips, and they won't know how to manufacture the stuff.
If we have this super resilient material that can handle over 200,000 kph at about 10,000 meters of altitude, we wouldn't know how to make it even if we found it, and tested it, anymore than Egypt can make N3 chips without TSMC building fabs there (and that's very unlikely to happen for a number of reasons).
Edit: I found out that surprisingly detailed information can be found about Starship, probably enough that if you had the right capital, you could build one. It seems Elon Musk wants people to copy it, and seems nothing at SpaceX is patented. I think it's the same with Tesla cars. He got the ball rolling, and now BYD is making cheaper electric cars than Tesla, as far as he's concerned it's mission accomplished (he just wants widespread adoption of EV).
Regards your edit: Elon's primary goal is Mars, now wealth. Wealth is just a tool. Global wealth is a bigger tool. Elon's smart enough to want to increase global abilities as part of his road to Mars.
If Elon can increase Global Wealth enough, his percent can be a 10th of what it is now and still be larger than today. The most important part of wealth is not things, but the knowledge of what to do with things. Open sourcing knowledge is the quickest way there is to ferment ideas.
U238, commonly called depleted uranium, is pretty safe. Plenty of aircraft use it right now for counter weights on flight controls.
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Nothing is going to help us get out into interstellar space so long as we continue to fool around with combustible fuels. We evolve onto "field propulsion" or we are stuck on this world forever. (GMP leads to CMF which allows FTL travel.)
Technology is like 60 years old...
Imagine if meteorites were hitting the earth today, how many countries would jump the gun on w m d