I played through half the game with SDR because I thought this game like many others did not implement HDR properly to bother using. But I toggled it on just to see about 15 hours in and boy was I pleasantly surprised to see how much better everything looks.
Finally, an HDR comparison video that is ACTUALLY using HDR! Can't tell you how many similar videos i had to sift through that were trying to show the difference between HDR and SDR, but were only using the SDR color space. No wonder so many creators are calling HDR a scam, they don't even understand the basic fundamentals of how it works. Thanks for making a proper HDR comparison video!
Honestly... It's not that people are less interested in it... It's that people don't actually understand what they are looking at there except looking at the screen "oh one is brighter the other one is more flat"... The video editing, cutting, recording it's all good job done there BUT... What you need to do is make some obvious pointing out and showcasing the actual advantage instead of just letting viewers trying to figure it out on their own as that takes time since they have to study each scene by comparing the two to get "oh yeah that's where it's improved" and instead of letting them figure that out, just straight away point it out to them... And maybe go in depth somewhere within the video duration etc... Also another reason why NOW it doesn't have much views is because literally there aren't a lot of people out there doing this thing right now and people are not aware of what is it and what's going on. My suggestion is to not bail out because it doesn't work now in terms of views as back investment... But continue and try to make it more interesting by pointing out obvious things in the comparisons as I mentioned (doesn't need to be voice over video it can be text and arrow pointer to focus viewers attention). Also another point i'd like to make is that this year there will be a lot more HDR capable viewers as market is going to get flooded with OLED monitors and you can pretty much guess what that means... They will literally be searching for HDR content on youtube and elsewhere and with enough tags you will be appearing in their search as well. So keep going my friend and keep improving. :)
What's the difference in comparison at 7:11? I dont see any differences on an lg C2, is it supposed to show more shadow detail in hdr or something or just confirmation that there is no black level raise?
It's hard to get HDR working in this game, if its turned on but everything looks dim and washed out, here's what you may have to do. Turn HDR on in windows settings, launch the game, you can now set the HDR to automatic (instead of stuck on off) don't exit the game but tab out and turn HDR OFF in windows settings, now go back to the in game hdr and switch it from off to automatic, as you do this you should see the screen get brighter, you are now really in hdr. I have no idea why this works
Another note for anybody struggling to get this to work, if you can't switch back and forth from off to automatic, and its stuck on either automatic or off, you're probably not in HDR. You will be able to tell because when you switch it from off to automatic and hit apply the menu will get brighter and everything will look amazing. Launch the game with Windows HDR on, tab out of the game or push windows alt B To turn HDR off in windows, now flip back and forth between off and auto in the game and you can see it changing back and forth, remember in the windows menu it will say it's OFF! It took me hours to figure this out
Hi. I have such a problem. I have an LG OLED B7V TV, a PlayStation 5 and a Dead Space Remake. In the RUclips app on the TV, I can watch this video in HLG HDR mode. But in the game itself in HDR mode, I can't get such a clear, bright and contrasting image. My image in the game is more like the SDR mode from your video on the right of the screen. But, again, in the RUclips app, the image on left side is great. What could be the problem ?
Incredible video Marco, could you help me, for 1 year in my lg cx 65 I have a lot of overshoot in dark areas and lately I notice it more, what can I do... it is very horrible to see the image like this, greetings.
it sure looks better in hdr on a hdr display, like my oled. but it this video also showed benefit on my other monitor, a ips. so i do not know where that comes from, is it the hdr video format on youtube better or the game itself showing less bloom and more detail in bright areas when hdr is enables and shown on a sdr display?
Wow this is the 1st time I’m seeing HDR vs SDR on my oled iPhone and guess what this isn’t BULLSHIT! Great job. I could clearly see the difference and RUclips verified this video is in fact HDR so i know ur conparision is not fake
@@GamingTech-RUclips I’m not saying urs is fake. I’ve seen many others where they put HDR in title and thumbnail but the video is not in HDR at all. Ive seen countless of them. However yours IS in HDR. So I’m just appreciating that
It's very interesting how in HDR they are reducing bloom and another volumetric effects that have the purpose to give the illusion of strong lights in HDR.
@@ilovelctr no, unreal games don't do this for example. The SDR/HDR conversion is done as the very last step, the only difference is in brightness, post process effects can't depend on it.
They are not.What you're seeing in HDR is the details that SDR can't render when the luminosity is high.Since the details aren't rendered,the whole luminous zone just look like what you call "bloom". The purpose of HDR is to be able to correctly display the very low and very high luminosity details.It is not to display more luminous or deeper blacks as some people think. You don't need HDR to display the 0-255 range and the brightness of the picture depends on the monitor/TV and not on the HDR or SDR setting. It is as if in SDR you could see only the 0,the 10,the 20 the 30 etc and in HDR,you can see each numbers:0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 etc...
@@whiskhot bloom is purpously toned down by the codes/shaders when they know they are outputting HDR. It's not like it's a direct consequence of the TV being HDR. Bloom is increased in SDR because it's needed to represent bright lights. In HDR it's not, you directly get brighter lights.
QN90B can still hit 2,000nits in SDR. This is more what happens to an OLED when played in SDR. HDR is still superior for accuracy but, video feels misleading and butchered.
I honestly can't tell the difference with this game between HDR and SDR - in fact I feel like it looks better on my SDR display than my HDR display. But I haven't tried it on my LG C1 yet. Maybe that's why. Watching this now on my Dell S3422DWG in HDR and they both look the same to my eyes.
In some places SDR looks better than HDR. You have to consider ''air pollution'' and consider how it scatters light. HDR sometimes makes it look too clean, SDR sometimes (or often) makes it look too messy. Than again, I'm fairly convinced that even SDR screens can achieve damn near HDR results by cranking up CONTRAST and cranking down BRIGHTNESS.
This is indicative of OLED behavior & how SDR restricts peak brightness to almost half what the TV is capable of. But, if you look at the QN90B it can still hit 2,000nits in SDR. I wish there was a comparison like that to see the actual "real difference" of HDR vs SDR rather than just watching a crippled display when it is in SDR's performance.
Sorry to say that but you need to understand first what the main difference is between SDR and HDR. Even the QN90B would be able to hit 2000nits in SDR the result will be a very bright overall picture but still no specular highlights like I'm HDR. Dynamic Range of SDR is very limited.
@GamingTech From my experience there was less shadow detail & the middle section was lifted a bit with less difference between the brightest object & APL but, dark was still dark, & bright still got HDR bright. I tried Forza Horizon at night & many other examples because I got very curious about the difference. After all, HDR didn't unleash the APL monster that was the QN90B because the way HDR is graded in most games it wasn't much different to an OLED in strictly "Brightness" & the headlights were still blazing bright & the rest of the world was still dark in Forza. The difference I found was less gradience, less color, a slightly washed picture presentation, and overall less contrast but at the benefit of much higher APL in bright scenes. It didn't just turn a dark hallway into the middle of the day SDR still limited brightness for what the scene called for but, if the TV brightness was adjusted in that hallway it would only affect the lights in the hallway or anything "bright" for many notches it didn't just lift the whole picture. In your video, it shows the behavior of an OLED as I said where it looks practically the same except for no highlights and less shadow detail "contrast" I had both QN90B & S95B and kept the S95B because well OLED once you go there there is no going back lol & this video perfectly depicts what happened when I tried this on the S95B & HDR is certainly better overall! But, with the QN90B and many other LED TVs SDR honestly just looks like Low-Quality HDR with less contrast in the Shadows & Highlights and as mentioned a few other things. But, not like this where there are zero highlights. So, I wish there was a video out there that showed the true difference not just what happens on a TV where the brightness in SDR doesn't reach the brightness it can in HDR. Whereas almost all LEDS can.
The thing is that for most games HDR is just bugged and in many cases does not apply correctly without some workaround especially on Windows. There are countless games where turning on HDR makes the colours washed out und even dims the brightness compared to SDR. In most cases, you need to fumble around like turning of Auto-HDR in Windows, or starting the game with HDR turned on in Windows and then disable it once the game is running and so forth. It's different for every game there is no consitency. With consoles it's better but also depends what settings you have on your TV. No wonder there are countless forum posts where people question if HDR works for their game. Once it runs properly though, it's glorious. Just a huge pain to get it running.
@@99Ctube i upgraded from a tcl r635 which had god awful hdr to an lg c2 oled. The hdr on the c2 is bloody amazing in most games...... not all . Either way if you dont have a top end tv or it the game isnt optomized for it hdr will suck
![Dead Space [Remake] vs Original | Direct Comparison](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/X6_raZtsEbw/mqdefault.jpg)
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I played through half the game with SDR because I thought this game like many others did not implement HDR properly to bother using. But I toggled it on just to see about 15 hours in and boy was I pleasantly surprised to see how much better everything looks.
I literally can't play a game without HDR now, without HDR, everything has no presence to me, HDR really is super important for proper realism
If implemented well, yes unfortunately it is not always
just use brightnes contrast 100%
and correct contrast in nviida
HDR + Ray Tracing is GOD Level of gaming
@@SDGRTX1455 HDR + Path Tracing with oled is next level
SDR is better looking
Did they ever patch up calisto protocol hdr?? Or is sdr still superior in that game?
Finally, an HDR comparison video that is ACTUALLY using HDR! Can't tell you how many similar videos i had to sift through that were trying to show the difference between HDR and SDR, but were only using the SDR color space. No wonder so many creators are calling HDR a scam, they don't even understand the basic fundamentals of how it works.
Thanks for making a proper HDR comparison video!
Good comparison. HDR looks stunning
Honestly... It's not that people are less interested in it... It's that people don't actually understand what they are looking at there except looking at the screen "oh one is brighter the other one is more flat"...
The video editing, cutting, recording it's all good job done there BUT... What you need to do is make some obvious pointing out and showcasing the actual advantage instead of just letting viewers trying to figure it out on their own as that takes time since they have to study each scene by comparing the two to get "oh yeah that's where it's improved" and instead of letting them figure that out, just straight away point it out to them...
And maybe go in depth somewhere within the video duration etc...
Also another reason why NOW it doesn't have much views is because literally there aren't a lot of people out there doing this thing right now and people are not aware of what is it and what's going on.
My suggestion is to not bail out because it doesn't work now in terms of views as back investment... But continue and try to make it more interesting by pointing out obvious things in the comparisons as I mentioned (doesn't need to be voice over video it can be text and arrow pointer to focus viewers attention).
Also another point i'd like to make is that this year there will be a lot more HDR capable viewers as market is going to get flooded with OLED monitors and you can pretty much guess what that means... They will literally be searching for HDR content on youtube and elsewhere and with enough tags you will be appearing in their search as well.
So keep going my friend and keep improving. :)
Great comparison, really shows off the key differences in select scenes. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
What's the difference in comparison at 7:11? I dont see any differences on an lg C2, is it supposed to show more shadow detail in hdr or something or just confirmation that there is no black level raise?
Mainly that there is no Black level raise.
It's hard to get HDR working in this game, if its turned on but everything looks dim and washed out, here's what you may have to do. Turn HDR on in windows settings, launch the game, you can now set the HDR to automatic (instead of stuck on off) don't exit the game but tab out and turn HDR OFF in windows settings, now go back to the in game hdr and switch it from off to automatic, as you do this you should see the screen get brighter, you are now really in hdr. I have no idea why this works
Another note for anybody struggling to get this to work, if you can't switch back and forth from off to automatic, and its stuck on either automatic or off, you're probably not in HDR. You will be able to tell because when you switch it from off to automatic and hit apply the menu will get brighter and everything will look amazing. Launch the game with Windows HDR on, tab out of the game or push windows alt B To turn HDR off in windows, now flip back and forth between off and auto in the game and you can see it changing back and forth, remember in the windows menu it will say it's OFF! It took me hours to figure this out
This worked for me, thank you so much!
is this on windows 11 or w10? w10 does not work..
Hi, did you try RTX HDR on this before? I'm going to try this..
@@ZanicL3 Not in this game but RTX HDR works well, I use it in alot of games that have bad HDR
By far the best side-by-side HDR vs SDR comparison, Thanks!
Je vois aucun différence (ni le nom de l'hdr 10 / 400 / 600 / 1000. Black 400 black 600 ...) ?
Hi. I have such a problem. I have an LG OLED B7V TV, a PlayStation 5 and a Dead Space Remake. In the RUclips app on the TV, I can watch this video in HLG HDR mode. But in the game itself in HDR mode, I can't get such a clear, bright and contrasting image. My image in the game is more like the SDR mode from your video on the right of the screen. But, again, in the RUclips app, the image on left side is great. What could be the problem ?
Incredible video Marco, could you help me, for 1 year in my lg cx 65 I have a lot of overshoot in dark areas and lately I notice it more, what can I do... it is very horrible to see the image like this, greetings.
Hdr🥰
Do I need HDR if I can have Ray Tracing?
Does the game have photo mode feature??
Any Xbox owners series x need advice if I should play this in Dolby Vision or HDR 10
it sure looks better in hdr on a hdr display, like my oled.
but it this video also showed benefit on my other monitor, a ips. so i do not know where that comes from, is it the hdr video format on youtube better or the game itself showing less bloom and more detail in bright areas when hdr is enables and shown on a sdr display?
this is like playing spot the difference in GTA V vs GTA V definitive edition
Well HDR is superior but what with this yellow tint
Its the same shit.
Barely any difference.
Clearly you're not watching on a HDR monitor then, because if you were - you could very clearly see the difference.
The hdr calibration its fixed. Very sad.
Your tv is not calibrated properly in sdr mode,or u did it on purpose.....colors are washed out n black levels ars too high n bright
??? That's not the TV that's my capturing card recording the content
Wow this is the 1st time I’m seeing HDR vs SDR on my oled iPhone and guess what this isn’t BULLSHIT! Great job. I could clearly see the difference and RUclips verified this video is in fact HDR so i know ur conparision is not fake
Why would it be fake....I spent hours on making this one 🙂
@@GamingTech-RUclips I’m not saying urs is fake. I’ve seen many others where they put HDR in title and thumbnail but the video is not in HDR at all. Ive seen countless of them. However yours IS in HDR. So I’m just appreciating that
@@Teja thanks !
HDR Dolby Vision on Series X looks great on U8H display.
What’s your game brightness settings for Dolby vision?
Does it support dlss sir?
I think that it supports DLSS 3 but im not sure
i read in another comment section that it has dlss 2
Have they fixed the lowres pixelated look with VRS yet?
yes. Patch 1.03
I love highlight
Markus, have you upgraded your gpu?
Not yet
😮
It's very interesting how in HDR they are reducing bloom and another volumetric effects that have the purpose to give the illusion of strong lights in HDR.
They've been doing this for literally every game. Perhaps they think SDR displays cannot do well with details on higher bright levels.
@@ilovelctr no, unreal games don't do this for example. The SDR/HDR conversion is done as the very last step, the only difference is in brightness, post process effects can't depend on it.
They are not.What you're seeing in HDR is the details that SDR can't render when the luminosity is high.Since the details aren't rendered,the whole luminous zone just look like what you call "bloom".
The purpose of HDR is to be able to correctly display the very low and very high luminosity details.It is not to display more luminous or deeper blacks as some people think. You don't need HDR to display the 0-255 range and the brightness of the picture depends on the monitor/TV and not on the HDR or SDR setting.
It is as if in SDR you could see only the 0,the 10,the 20 the 30 etc and in HDR,you can see each numbers:0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 etc...
@@whiskhot bloom is purpously toned down by the codes/shaders when they know they are outputting HDR. It's not like it's a direct consequence of the TV being HDR. Bloom is increased in SDR because it's needed to represent bright lights. In HDR it's not, you directly get brighter lights.
HDR the winner every time without question, it’s a bigger game changer then 4K for me
Can't wait to play this masterpiece again in glorious SDR
Here comes Michael again, the biggest troll in this community.
@@sfk-fjordan You generously give him the benefit of the doubt lol I think he's just stuck in his old ways.
QN90B can still hit 2,000nits in SDR. This is more what happens to an OLED when played in SDR. HDR is still superior for accuracy but, video feels misleading and butchered.
HDR>sdr
I honestly can't tell the difference with this game between HDR and SDR - in fact I feel like it looks better on my SDR display than my HDR display. But I haven't tried it on my LG C1 yet. Maybe that's why. Watching this now on my Dell S3422DWG in HDR and they both look the same to my eyes.
Hdr is far superior have. Setting it up properly
can be simulated
Sdr👍hdr to unrealistic shiny!
In some places SDR looks better than HDR. You have to consider ''air pollution'' and consider how it scatters light. HDR sometimes makes it look too clean, SDR sometimes (or often) makes it look too messy. Than again, I'm fairly convinced that even SDR screens can achieve damn near HDR results by cranking up CONTRAST and cranking down BRIGHTNESS.
Looks fine in SDR HDR is a gimmick in most content just like raytracing.
Broke? 😭😂
This is indicative of OLED behavior & how SDR restricts peak brightness to almost half what the TV is capable of. But, if you look at the QN90B it can still hit 2,000nits in SDR. I wish there was a comparison like that to see the actual "real difference" of HDR vs SDR rather than just watching a crippled display when it is in SDR's performance.
Sorry to say that but you need to understand first what the main difference is between SDR and HDR. Even the QN90B would be able to hit 2000nits in SDR the result will be a very bright overall picture but still no specular highlights like I'm HDR. Dynamic Range of SDR is very limited.
@GamingTech From my experience there was less shadow detail & the middle section was lifted a bit with less difference between the brightest object & APL but, dark was still dark, & bright still got HDR bright. I tried Forza Horizon at night & many other examples because I got very curious about the difference. After all, HDR didn't unleash the APL monster that was the QN90B because the way HDR is graded in most games it wasn't much different to an OLED in strictly "Brightness" & the headlights were still blazing bright & the rest of the world was still dark in Forza. The difference I found was less gradience, less color, a slightly washed picture presentation, and overall less contrast but at the benefit of much higher APL in bright scenes. It didn't just turn a dark hallway into the middle of the day SDR still limited brightness for what the scene called for but, if the TV brightness was adjusted in that hallway it would only affect the lights in the hallway or anything "bright" for many notches it didn't just lift the whole picture. In your video, it shows the behavior of an OLED as I said where it looks practically the same except for no highlights and less shadow detail "contrast" I had both QN90B & S95B and kept the S95B because well OLED once you go there there is no going back lol & this video perfectly depicts what happened when I tried this on the S95B & HDR is certainly better overall! But, with the QN90B and many other LED TVs SDR honestly just looks like Low-Quality HDR with less contrast in the Shadows & Highlights and as mentioned a few other things. But, not like this where there are zero highlights. So, I wish there was a video out there that showed the true difference not just what happens on a TV where the brightness in SDR doesn't reach the brightness it can in HDR. Whereas almost all LEDS can.
@@GamingTech-RUclips your tv is calibrsted wring in sdr mode it needs to have better black level or u did it in purpose to bash sdr
Hdr is shit unless you have a massivly top end tv. My tv gets good hdr reviews but looks so much better in sdr. Tcl 55r635
It’s only shit if you’ve not adjusted your settings properly lol. Hdr on my tv is incredible and spot on everytime
The thing is that for most games HDR is just bugged and in many cases does not apply correctly without some workaround especially on Windows. There are countless games where turning on HDR makes the colours washed out und even dims the brightness compared to SDR. In most cases, you need to fumble around like turning of Auto-HDR in Windows, or starting the game with HDR turned on in Windows and then disable it once the game is running and so forth. It's different for every game there is no consitency. With consoles it's better but also depends what settings you have on your TV. No wonder there are countless forum posts where people question if HDR works for their game. Once it runs properly though, it's glorious. Just a huge pain to get it running.
@@99Ctube i upgraded from a tcl r635 which had god awful hdr to an lg c2 oled. The hdr on the c2 is bloody amazing in most games...... not all . Either way if you dont have a top end tv or it the game isnt optomized for it hdr will suck
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