I don't know how to thank you enough.I mean after going over lots of job vacancies I decided to dive into the topic to understand how far "data analysis" differs from "data science", and thankfully I came acroos your amazing video. I hold a Mathematics degree and your video really encouraged me to focus on Data Analysis at the very beginning
I’m very glad to hear that you found it useful. Congratulations on pivoting to analytics. It’s never easy switching careers. Will you want to do analytics in the financial sector?
@@LightsOnData I actually don't mind doing Data Analytics in any sector. I know there is synergy with the Financial Sector. But Data is a big subject and covers many sectors, such Climate, Public Health and other areas. I am enjoying the process. There is so much to learn and new ways of thinking. In addition to getting to know some very interesting people.
One thing to keep in mind with job postings is that in most cases, they are written by people that don't have a firm grasp on data work. Their knowledge is secondary and not a good premise to build a definition of either on
Thank you for these great and clear explanations! I studied Python and worked with Tableau before. Interesting to find out that with a bit of more training I might be able to qualify for position of a data analyst. Seems like a very nice job to have on the side for extra income, and it can also teach you some skills and give necessary experience required for becoming a data scientist later on down the road too. A very nice option to consider, I think.
I feel like different companies really break the jobs down differently. I feel like most data engineering roles this days are either data-focused software engineering roles, with a focus on interoperability rather than the logic of the pipelines. I think I want data analyst roles, but I have some of the data scientist skills - but not masters degree or passion about stats. This is why its hard to find my perfect role, I guess!
Hi Cara, I think what matters more is the description of the role than the title itself. So regardless of the role I hope that you find something that will match what you are looking for.
Thank you for the feedback. Happy to create another video where I talk about the business analyst vs. data analyst and another comparing the data engineer with the data scientist.
Great video, the two job deceptions can be a mess to understand. Thank you for breaking down the differences between the two. PS. The outdoor looked a whole lot like Vancouver, BC
It's my pleasure, Haneef. It took a lot of hours to put it together, but I enjoyed trying to clarify those differences. Good eye :). It was filmed in Vancouver, BC.
Seems about right. Note on your video, the Data Analyst writing the equations on the glass pane has a cracked pair of glasses. Where as the Data Scientist shown next, "gets paid more" and can afford a non cracked pair of glasses. Overall it is also interesting that data governance, is also often very often ill defined. Been job ads called a Data Government Lead, Senior Data Modeller, Lead Data Steward etc. Have you documented your job description findings on this ill defined category?
Very interesting observation, Glen. I haven't noticed that. That's a very good question, re: data governance job tit'e and job description. I'll have to add this to my list of future videos to address this topic.
Currently working as a data analyst and hoping to switch to a data scientist role in the future. I have a bachelors in BS+CS, but I am thinking about doing a masters in DS or CS very soon. Question: If a Data Scientist position requires 4+ of experience, how & where am I supposed to get this? Can I count two years of my DA position experience towards the 4+ years required for the DS position? Thanks for the awesome video, found the channel through linkedin.
Thanks Hamza! We just covered this question on today’s Lights On Data Show, so great timing 🙂. I recommend watching this following video as our guest addressed this question with some examples and ideas: ruclips.net/video/4Owri3nG2I4/видео.html
Is it just me or do more people who get hired as Data Scientist will eventually end up being Data Analyst? The Key to me was that a Data Analyst answers known Business Question making it easier to get a buy-in from Business Leaders. You go to a Department Head promising you'll help them solve their problems and they will be more than happy to fund your project. On the other hand, trying to define a new problem for function heads can get tricky and supporting your arguments with Algorithms which other people don't have any interest to understand is only going to make things worse.
I feel like data analysts need more math skills than data scientists as they calculate stuff themselves rather than creating a tool/model that solves the problem.
They both need to have aptitude for it, but to me the data scientist needs to have a more advanced knowledge of it. For example, if they need to create a recommender score or a deep learning project, the ML algorithms for these rely on matrix algebra
Thanks for the feedback. I've actually added a music track, but it's veeeery quiet :). I'll experiment and see what the optimal dB level should be for the background music. I had microphone issues when I filmed this video so the voice sound is not optimal and I thought that if I were to make the background music more prominent it will be disturbing to listen to :)
In which category will a statistition or epidemiologist who uses statistical techniques such as survival analysis or longitudunal analysis or other advanced statistical techniques to make an inference from a dataset they have ? I ask because you said that what data analysts do is descriptive . Note, when epidemiologists and statistitian begin a data analysis, they usually begin with descriptive anlysis before moving to modelling and advanced techniques
I’ll leave for someone who has worked with these share their opinion, but to me it would fall under a data scientist. The data analyst works mostly with descriptive, yes, but that doesn’t mean the data scientist can’t also use descriptive analysis.
@@LightsOnData Well, so statisticians and epidemiologists do not fall in any of your 2 categories since descripve statistics are only a small fraction of the statistical work they do, the rest being inferential, causal or other advanced methods. i honestly will never hire a "data analyst" who can only do descriptive statistics and nothing beyound
@@sylvainbodji1124 in the end it's not the title that matters, but more so the responsibilities tied to the role. There could be data analyst roles out there that go beyond descriptive statistics. But from what I've encountered those then tend to go into the roles of "Advanced Data Analyst" or "Data Scientist". Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.
I'm an Indian student , I'm on my 2nd year high school and next step is to choose what course is best for me to study so that I can get a better job with high pay !! I wanted to know which is best Like.... What would u choose Data science or data analyst??? Please reply mee...❤️
Could it be possible that these descriptions differ depending on where you are in the world. I studied Mathematics and Statistics and this side of the world we do statistical analysis or rather data analysis with such skills and those who do data science are mostly computer science grads or engineering graduates. Also I use more excel and R than anything even though I'm familiar with Python, C++ and VB. Never used SAS or SQL so far (still very new in this). I started taking courses on ML and DL from Huawei, Coursera and IBM and that's why I'm here. I'm confused what do Data scientist and data engineers do if I'm doing statistical models using time series analysis, stochastic process (Markov Chain, Poisson Process, Martingale, etc) linear models, and generalized linear models. With Time series analysis I can make predictive models and do statistical inference.
I would be curious to understand the average number of each postition within a company? Are there usually the same number of data scientists and data analysts working together or is there less Data Scientists and more analysts? or vice versa? This would speak to the potential available open opportunities.
Hi there, great video and really useful! I am considering changing careers and becoming a Data Analyst. I just had a question please - do you think in a few years time the role of a Data Analyst may be able to be completely done by a Data Scientist? Therefore there being less of a need for Data Analysts, as Data Scientists will have the skills to carry out the duties of the Data Analyst role. Thanks in advance
gut feeling teels me no - i would assume that many data analysts come from mixed backgrounds like business+data, psychology+data, so in a sense you still need somebody with some knowledge of other concepts than mining and processing data and looking for patterns, but to make sense of the patterns in the context of the field. and what i´ve seen with friends now who are now moving to the data field from business or so is that employers often dotn care too much about high level staticial evaluaions - they want some nice excel charts analyzed and visualized, see trends, see whats more, whats less - they often dont need "based on this sample size and this standard deviation and this alpha-error im confident to say that selling 1020 items compared to 1004 last year is statisticly significant more"
@@LightsOnData yes, Sir. 😓 Because i dont have a good background study and dont have any skillset yet. So afraid to choose wrong. *And will hit 30s soon 😀
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I don't know how to thank you enough.I mean after going over lots of job vacancies I decided to dive into the topic to understand how far "data analysis" differs from "data science", and thankfully I came acroos your amazing video. I hold a Mathematics degree and your video really encouraged me to focus on Data Analysis at the very beginning
The side by side was so spot on! Thanks for the high quality content
Im happy that you think so. I hope you’ll find the other videos to be as spot on as well 🙂
Outside of you mentioning "Small data" for a Data Analyst, you seem to be pretty spot on.
Thank you so much I am starting my Data Analytics Career. Pivoting from Accounting. This video has been so informative to me. Thank you very much.
I’m very glad to hear that you found it useful. Congratulations on pivoting to analytics. It’s never easy switching careers. Will you want to do analytics in the financial sector?
@@LightsOnData I actually don't mind doing Data Analytics in any sector. I know there is synergy with the Financial Sector. But Data is a big subject and covers many sectors, such Climate, Public Health and other areas. I am enjoying the process. There is so much to learn and new ways of thinking. In addition to getting to know some very interesting people.
Awesome video, very insightful. well done
Glad you enjoyed it!
persuing to be a data analyst I feel it's more into what I would love to do, Coming from your linked in LIVE. This was really eye-opening.
Thank you again for joining the LinkedIn Live show. I’m glad you found this video insightful.
One thing to keep in mind with job postings is that in most cases, they are written by people that don't have a firm grasp on data work. Their knowledge is secondary and not a good premise to build a definition of either on
Thankyou for this I am looking for long time video like this.
Glad i could help
Thank you! Best video I found on what I want to do short and long term. If I could double like, I would!
Much appreciated Robin! I hope to have earned a Subscribe from you and I'll "see" you in the next videos :)
Very insightful, George 🙌🏻
Thank you for your support Ravit!!!
LOVE IT!
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Thank you for these great and clear explanations! I studied Python and worked with Tableau before. Interesting to find out that with a bit of more training I might be able to qualify for position of a data analyst. Seems like a very nice job to have on the side for extra income, and it can also teach you some skills and give necessary experience required for becoming a data scientist later on down the road too. A very nice option to consider, I think.
For sure, and who knows, it could even develop into a career.
Cool video! 🙌
I’m glad you think so :)
I feel like different companies really break the jobs down differently. I feel like most data engineering roles this days are either data-focused software engineering roles, with a focus on interoperability rather than the logic of the pipelines. I think I want data analyst roles, but I have some of the data scientist skills - but not masters degree or passion about stats. This is why its hard to find my perfect role, I guess!
Hi Cara, I think what matters more is the description of the role than the title itself. So regardless of the role I hope that you find something that will match what you are looking for.
THANKS for doing this George!
Thank you very much Thom! Integrated ML&AI rocks!
I think you should add data engineer to this
I could address that in another video. Would it be useful if I did a video on data engineer vs. data scientist?
@@LightsOnData yes!
@@LightsOnData yes!
No. There are a lot of blurred lines between data scientist and analyst. The data engineer role has a more isolated function.
Good one, but I also get confused with business analyst. U shld have included data Engineer and business analyst too
Thank you for the feedback. Happy to create another video where I talk about the business analyst vs. data analyst and another comparing the data engineer with the data scientist.
Tremendous video George. Thanks for sharing these important informations.
Thank you so much Luciano. A lot of hours went into this video so I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Surely philopsphers of science have particular definitions for what a scientist is, how do these relate to the two terms - analyst and scientist.
Great video, the two job deceptions can be a mess to understand. Thank you for breaking down the differences between the two.
PS. The outdoor looked a whole lot like Vancouver, BC
It's my pleasure, Haneef. It took a lot of hours to put it together, but I enjoyed trying to clarify those differences.
Good eye :). It was filmed in Vancouver, BC.
Very informative. Thanks
My pleasure, MQ. I'm glad people find this helpful.
Thanks a lot for the very informative video and comparison side by side really helped to understand differences!
Hi Bijay, I'm very glad that you found that comparison to be helpful. I hope that you'll subscribe and watch future videos as well.
HQ content, also great talk on career paths from yesterday.
Thank you Karl, I'm glad you liked it. If there's anything that I missed or that you'd like to add, please let me know
Seems about right. Note on your video, the Data Analyst writing the equations on the glass pane has a cracked pair of glasses. Where as the Data Scientist shown next, "gets paid more" and can afford a non cracked pair of glasses. Overall it is also interesting that data governance, is also often very often ill defined. Been job ads called a Data Government Lead, Senior Data Modeller, Lead Data Steward etc. Have you documented your job description findings on this ill defined category?
Very interesting observation, Glen. I haven't noticed that.
That's a very good question, re: data governance job tit'e and job description. I'll have to add this to my list of future videos to address this topic.
Removing the jacket in front of the mic looks like a bad idea! Enjoying your content! Keep it up! :)
Thanks Sandanuwan :). I'll keep that in mind for next time.
I don't think Julia will replace Python... the capabilities of Python are still being explored!!
Currently working as a data analyst and hoping to switch to a data scientist role in the future. I have a bachelors in BS+CS, but I am thinking about doing a masters in DS or CS very soon.
Question: If a Data Scientist position requires 4+ of experience, how & where am I supposed to get this? Can I count two years of my DA position experience towards the 4+ years required for the DS position?
Thanks for the awesome video, found the channel through linkedin.
Thanks Hamza! We just covered this question on today’s Lights On Data Show, so great timing 🙂. I recommend watching this following video as our guest addressed this question with some examples and ideas: ruclips.net/video/4Owri3nG2I4/видео.html
@@LightsOnData perfect, will check soon! Thanks a lot!
@@hamzaktk18 my pleasure!
Is it just me or do more people who get hired as Data Scientist will eventually end up being Data Analyst? The Key to me was that a Data Analyst answers known Business Question making it easier to get a buy-in from Business Leaders. You go to a Department Head promising you'll help them solve their problems and they will be more than happy to fund your project. On the other hand, trying to define a new problem for function heads can get tricky and supporting your arguments with Algorithms which other people don't have any interest to understand is only going to make things worse.
It really depends how that organization defines these roles. Sometimes they are more intertwined.
Loved it
Glad to hear that Tatiana.
I feel like data analysts need more math skills than data scientists as they calculate stuff themselves rather than creating a tool/model that solves the problem.
They both need to have aptitude for it, but to me the data scientist needs to have a more advanced knowledge of it. For example, if they need to create a recommender score or a deep learning project, the ML algorithms for these rely on matrix algebra
A background music will really improve your good content. Keep going!
Thanks for the feedback. I've actually added a music track, but it's veeeery quiet :). I'll experiment and see what the optimal dB level should be for the background music. I had microphone issues when I filmed this video so the voice sound is not optimal and I thought that if I were to make the background music more prominent it will be disturbing to listen to :)
If I graduated with data analysis degree, am I allowed to work as an data scientist? Or I must only work as an data analytics?
Of course you can work as a data scientist:)
Very Nice !
I’m glad you liked it, Eduardo.
In which category will a statistition or epidemiologist who uses statistical techniques such as survival analysis or longitudunal analysis or other advanced statistical techniques to make an inference from a dataset they have ? I ask because you said that what data analysts do is descriptive . Note, when epidemiologists and statistitian begin a data analysis, they usually begin with descriptive anlysis before moving to modelling and advanced techniques
I’ll leave for someone who has worked with these share their opinion, but to me it would fall under a data scientist. The data analyst works mostly with descriptive, yes, but that doesn’t mean the data scientist can’t also use descriptive analysis.
@@LightsOnData Well, so statisticians and epidemiologists do not fall in any of your 2 categories since descripve statistics are only a small fraction of the statistical work they do, the rest being inferential, causal or other advanced methods. i honestly will never hire a "data analyst" who can only do descriptive statistics and nothing beyound
@@sylvainbodji1124 in the end it's not the title that matters, but more so the responsibilities tied to the role. There could be data analyst roles out there that go beyond descriptive statistics. But from what I've encountered those then tend to go into the roles of "Advanced Data Analyst" or "Data Scientist". Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.
Structured data is a SQL language please tell fastly
I'm an Indian student , I'm on my 2nd year high school and next step is to choose what course is best for me to study so that I can get a better job with high pay !!
I wanted to know which is best
Like....
What would u choose
Data science or data analyst???
Please reply mee...❤️
I am also in confused about this which one u select now
@@aslamaslu3625 ryt now I took data analyst
@@mjlee7693 why bro is there any reason
And which college u selected
@@aslamaslu3625 not any specific reason, I just asked my uncle who works in infosis and he told me data analyst is better
@@mjlee7693 which college u selected
Recruiters have no clue what roles in data analytics do.
Could it be possible that these descriptions differ depending on where you are in the world.
I studied Mathematics and Statistics and this side of the world we do statistical analysis or rather data analysis with such skills and those who do data science are mostly computer science grads or engineering graduates.
Also I use more excel and R than anything even though I'm familiar with Python, C++ and VB. Never used SAS or SQL so far (still very new in this).
I started taking courses on ML and DL from Huawei, Coursera and IBM and that's why I'm here. I'm confused what do Data scientist and data engineers do if I'm doing statistical models using time series analysis, stochastic process (Markov Chain, Poisson Process, Martingale, etc) linear models, and generalized linear models.
With Time series analysis I can make predictive models and do statistical inference.
I would be curious to understand the average number of each postition within a company? Are there usually the same number of data scientists and data analysts working together or is there less Data Scientists and more analysts? or vice versa? This would speak to the potential available open opportunities.
Sounds interesting. If you find any sources for that data, please let me know.
Hi there, great video and really useful! I am considering changing careers and becoming a Data Analyst. I just had a question please - do you think in a few years time the role of a Data Analyst may be able to be completely done by a Data Scientist? Therefore there being less of a need for Data Analysts, as Data Scientists will have the skills to carry out the duties of the Data Analyst role. Thanks in advance
gut feeling teels me no - i would assume that many data analysts come from mixed backgrounds like business+data, psychology+data, so in a sense you still need somebody with some knowledge of other concepts than mining and processing data and looking for patterns, but to make sense of the patterns in the context of the field. and what i´ve seen with friends now who are now moving to the data field from business or so is that employers often dotn care too much about high level staticial evaluaions - they want some nice excel charts analyzed and visualized, see trends, see whats more, whats less - they often dont need "based on this sample size and this standard deviation and this alpha-error im confident to say that selling 1020 items compared to 1004 last year is statisticly significant more"
@@pedroewert143 Hi there, thanks so much for your response, it's really useful! 😁
Business intelligence vs. data scientist
I'll add that to the list for a future video, Jon
Ok glassdoor, data scientist intern 118k?
Can a policeman or someone is bad at math/ with numbers be a data scientist?
I think it would be harder for someone without a mathematical aptitude to practice data science.
I'm doing Bachelor in Statistics. Can I will be applicable for both or not?
I think that Stats is applicable to both data analytics and data science.
Then there’s Business Analyst 🤦🏻♂️ 😅
Haha, there is, but I would say there’s not much of an overlap there. Though there are business data analysts.
Still confusing to choose both of them. Hahahha *i dont have any background but want to be data scientist.
To change my carrer path 😑
Do you mean that it’s confusing as to how you go about becoming a data analyst or a data scientist?
@@LightsOnData yes, Sir. 😓 Because i dont have a good background study and dont have any skillset yet. So afraid to choose wrong. *And will hit 30s soon 😀
@@aguspri1663 from what I’ve seen, a lot go into data analytics first and then progress into data science.
my DREAMS from Somalia
Is that to become a data analyst or a data scientist?