No but fr the Ariete at 9.7 is so much more superior than the 2K it gets thermals more armor and better round I think aswell. The mobility and the 20MM doesn't compensate for those things for 2K.
Well Justin, I was fortunate enough to catch you and 2:30 a.m, love your videos man and sometimes I see you in top tier matches. Keep it up man your gonna be big one day
About the commander affecting crew skills: the Commander has a crew skill that increases crew effectiveness, so if you lose the commander, your crew gets worse. Obviously it doesn’t make sense that it would decrease the speed of an electric turret traverse, but just like how it gets slower from the gunner getting hurt, it’s a mix of realistic and gameplay elements
imagine my surprise when I saw that I was in your Stalingrad playthrough. Was thinking, man that guy has a roman shield on the rear of the tank just like.... HEY THATS ME!!!!! thanks for the backup man! Grundril.
Late but, 5:34 Yep. And the Abrams, from the MBT-70/ Kpz70 project came the XM-803, and the Leopard 2k as well. As we know, they both later developed into the Abrams and Leopard 2 respectively.
Love the Leopard 2K a lot of people underestimate for some reason but it's a very lethal cat! I'd also love to make a suggestion for a future video and that would be the Challenger Mk3 because I've noticed you haven't made a video on that so far!
Kpz 70 and MBT 70 split off into the abrams and leopard I think so you are correct both countries used alot of the tech they derived from the joint project
The tech involved in the mbt70/kpz70 was later used in the Leo 2k despite the fact that it wasn't allowed to make a tank out of kpz program like with the same tech cuz deals and stuff but the germans said it's a further development of our already existing leo
Its weird how GJ has animated how apfsds reacts to angled armor. For what i can understand, they dont take account LOS penetration, which dictate the penetration values and perforation values when rounds hit typical passive armor instead flat penetration is referenced to overall angled protection. For example i think the 72B is a good exmpaple. So the 72B has about 240mm of armor if it isnt angled, but raises to anout 420mm at 60° and and LOS is about 530mm(roughly at 67°) The DM33 ,at 500m, has 470mm flat pen and 272mm at 60° which raises if taken into account in LOS penetration to 544mm, which is how perforation works i believe. This LOS value would be even higher at 67° degrees which obviously could go through the 72B atleast at closer ranges. This effectivness although apperantly can only be calculated with long rod sabos where as slugtypes, like 3BM15/22, the LOS value woukd work differently. Its also possible that GJ refuses to impliment such advanced game calculations since it would render many armor useless, but would work wonders if long range combat becomes more prevelent, since they added more "realistic" rangefinder mechanic. It would also result in less devs possible involved in adding new "powercreep" and we cant have that, right?
I am having a ton of fun with TAM-2C and Leopard 2K. Indeed, a lot of 'same tier' and 'downtier' matches. The stock grind with HEAT-FS wasnt difficult this time around. However, the Leopard 2K armor is still really wierd. It can not tank anything, the armor it should have looks like paper and the sharp angles that should bounce stuff, does not bounce stuff...
being an EX tank commander although in a self propelled howitzer some of the things that a dead commander does to a tank makes sense but things like the turret traverse if weird af. But effecting target acquisition and driving makes sense at least a bit.
Yeah came to say this. I am a driver in an armoured vehicle, and I am NOT as confident in reversing quickly without the commander making sure I don't hit anything
Is it just me, or do people not realise that, the front-corner-track shot is almost always a kill on every MBT in the game, with a very, very minor selection of exceptions?
@@cpthrki5852 It is ESPECIALLY effective on the Abrams and Leo's, more than on Russian tanks. APFSDS rounds punch through the front of the track at an angle, entering the hull BETWEEN the angles of the UFP and LFP composite screens, and either ammo racks, fuel pops, or in rare cases just disables. More often than not, fatal.
@@jaegergames7042 I would say it more often one shots Russian tanks in my experience because 100% of the time it goes straight into their autoloader ammo rack.
Imagine Getting 10.7 MM in 9.7 Vehicles and then you realize that the current 10.7 is only in USSR/Chinese Tree, and Western MBT only have 10.0 or 10.3 before 11.0
Have to admit the new BR of 11.0 has breed new life into the 9.3 and 9.7 lineups for all nations .Being playing a lot of russia 9.7 so many down teirs or 9.7 games the occasional upteir .but even with american 9.3 9.0 or british 9.7 its so much more enjoyable.
Yo justin i was playing in the same game as you in the “so so sniper” chapter it was a really fun time playing in the same team as you and btw a hint of who i was look for the fanch clan member
Hi Justin! I hope you're doing well today, I was wondering that when you will make a video about the Chinese ZTZ59D1, please? I have been waiting for quite some time already. So I am hoping for it soon! Thank you and have a wonderful day! Also, keep it up because I really like your content!
Apprently the commander view on the CV90120 goes up to 24x, and I have been messing with it for a few days now. Using it the entire time in a video would be interesiting
I got the 2K and 2PL at the same time, both's grind kinda ended up together. Im so glad that i finally have a top tier lineup. Well 2PL is not top tier anymore but anyways xD
The thing that kills it for me is the no thermals. At the tier you fight basically only thermals which puts this thing at a huge disadvantage in my opinion it should get ther.als or go down to 9.3
I never did like the 2k, it just sits there even in my top tier lineups gathering dust. The lack of thermals kills it for me 😭 Also 12:20 STREAMER BIAS
I think it’s a decent map for all tiers really. Style of gameplay doesn’t really change at different tiers. There’s no mountains for MBT’s to climb and shoot into spawn, just like so in lower tiers
Imagine only having DM13 and no thermals at 9.7.
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No but fr the Ariete at 9.7 is so much more superior than the 2K it gets thermals more armor and better round I think aswell. The mobility and the 20MM doesn't compensate for those things for 2K.
@@Tomathey75 Thats Italian engineering for ya;)
DM13 from 120mm is still good tho, i rather play 2k because its a super competitive vehicle, Ariete is just a sad glass canon.
@@samyt681 If you think the Ariete is a sad glass cannon, then the 2K is even more fragile.
@@samyt681 isnt the survivability is almost the same?
Yeah mate, spot on. KPZ70 became the Gilded Leopard project, became the L2K, then into the true Leopard 2 family.
Well Justin, I was fortunate enough to catch you and 2:30 a.m, love your videos man and sometimes I see you in top tier matches. Keep it up man your gonna be big one day
I agree!
@@yeanahyeanah2811 Attack the D point!
Getting down!
i am excited to get my hands on this thing in about 7 years.
You should try out the AMX 30B2 BRENUS. I've heard it's a masochist's favorite vehicle
The main reason why is that it doesn't get stabilizer. At 8.7 not having a stabilizer usually means you'll never be the first to shoot.
@@mayonotes9849 a tank with ERA and an APS, but no stabilizer. Just French things
The two games I queue sniped you in were somehow both downtiers...
Justin, just reminding that you havent played the MARS 15!
Reminding 😁
That’s because it’s kinda garbage. SK-105 is only .3 BR higher, and the AMX-10RC is better at the same BR
@@collander7766 thats why i want justin to play it
@@JStef19 oh yeh my english bad
10:00 and 10:19 are like the scenes from finding nemo where the seagulls are sitting on the mast of a sailboat.
About the commander affecting crew skills: the Commander has a crew skill that increases crew effectiveness, so if you lose the commander, your crew gets worse. Obviously it doesn’t make sense that it would decrease the speed of an electric turret traverse, but just like how it gets slower from the gunner getting hurt, it’s a mix of realistic and gameplay elements
imagine my surprise when I saw that I was in your Stalingrad playthrough. Was thinking, man that guy has a roman shield on the rear of the tank just like.... HEY THATS ME!!!!! thanks for the backup man! Grundril.
Thank you for the video, Justin! Keep up the good work. :)
PS: the Leo 2K has 30 hp/t.
“Oh man. I really don’t like Stalingrad”
-anonymous 6th army soldier, 1942
Late but, 5:34 Yep. And the Abrams, from the MBT-70/ Kpz70 project came the XM-803, and the Leopard 2k as well. As we know, they both later developed into the Abrams and Leopard 2 respectively.
Love the Leopard 2K a lot of people underestimate for some reason but it's a very lethal cat! I'd also love to make a suggestion for a future video and that would be the Challenger Mk3 because I've noticed you haven't made a video on that so far!
Kpz 70 and MBT 70 split off into the abrams and leopard I think so you are correct both countries used alot of the tech they derived from the joint project
It is indeed a future dev of the mbt 70. This thing was on the road to the leo2 in a sense it is in the same faimly as the abrams
10:18 i just laugh so hard at the reveal of all those turms lol
The tech involved in the mbt70/kpz70 was later used in the Leo 2k despite the fact that it wasn't allowed to make a tank out of kpz program like with the same tech cuz deals and stuff but the germans said it's a further development of our already existing leo
Its weird how GJ has animated how apfsds reacts to angled armor. For what i can understand, they dont take account LOS penetration, which dictate the penetration values and perforation values when rounds hit typical passive armor instead flat penetration is referenced to overall angled protection. For example i think the 72B is a good exmpaple.
So the 72B has about 240mm of armor if it isnt angled, but raises to anout 420mm at 60° and and LOS is about 530mm(roughly at 67°)
The DM33 ,at 500m, has 470mm flat pen and 272mm at 60° which raises if taken into account in LOS penetration to 544mm, which is how perforation works i believe. This LOS value would be even higher at 67° degrees which obviously could go through the 72B atleast at closer ranges. This effectivness although apperantly can only be calculated with long rod sabos where as slugtypes, like 3BM15/22, the LOS value woukd work differently. Its also possible that GJ refuses to impliment such advanced game calculations since it would render many armor useless, but would work wonders if long range combat becomes more prevelent, since they added more "realistic" rangefinder mechanic. It would also result in less devs possible involved in adding new "powercreep" and we cant have that, right?
i was really looking forward to the Type 60 ATM video :(
Justin: "Ooh I don't trust this!"
Me, playing literally any ground vehicle: I know how you feel bro lol
"iT's lIkE a kIdS mEaL fOr aDuLtS"
Oh my. I can feel the freedom . . .
5:40 yes justin, it did, and also the engine is the same as on the Kpz-70 :)
I am having a ton of fun with TAM-2C and Leopard 2K. Indeed, a lot of 'same tier' and 'downtier' matches. The stock grind with HEAT-FS wasnt difficult this time around.
However, the Leopard 2K armor is still really wierd. It can not tank anything, the armor it should have looks like paper and the sharp angles that should bounce stuff, does not bounce stuff...
Hey Justin just wanna say I love your videos!
being an EX tank commander although in a self propelled howitzer some of the things that a dead commander does to a tank makes sense but things like the turret traverse if weird af. But effecting target acquisition and driving makes sense at least a bit.
Yeah came to say this. I am a driver in an armoured vehicle, and I am NOT as confident in reversing quickly without the commander making sure I don't hit anything
@@e.fyhren2932 yea, I totally get that lol. At least the howitzer had nearly 0 rearward visibility for the driver
ah yes my first real top tier tank, the only one that I genuinely had a ton of fun in, even stock with the old heatfs
Is it just me, or do people not realise that, the front-corner-track shot is almost always a kill on every MBT in the game, with a very, very minor selection of exceptions?
A lot of people fail to realize yes
Because it isn't? How does that kill any Leopard or Abrams?
@@cpthrki5852 It is ESPECIALLY effective on the Abrams and Leo's, more than on Russian tanks. APFSDS rounds punch through the front of the track at an angle, entering the hull BETWEEN the angles of the UFP and LFP composite screens, and either ammo racks, fuel pops, or in rare cases just disables. More often than not, fatal.
@@jaegergames7042 I would say it more often one shots Russian tanks in my experience because 100% of the time it goes straight into their autoloader ammo rack.
@@proofostrich9061
See, NATO tanks get crew knockout virtually every time as well. Its just a really fucking good spot to shoot on modern tanks.
Imagine Getting 10.7 MM in 9.7 Vehicles and then you realize that the current 10.7 is only in USSR/Chinese Tree, and Western MBT only have 10.0 or 10.3 before 11.0
My favourite MBT. So much fun.
I didn't suffer the grind in my leopard 2k because I spaded it in assault arcade. It still has the 10 free repairs.
A kids meal is fitting for every Restaurant not McDonalds you were thinking of a Happy Meal
Have to admit the new BR of 11.0 has breed new life into the 9.3 and 9.7 lineups for all nations .Being playing a lot of russia 9.7 so many down teirs or 9.7 games the occasional upteir .but even with american 9.3 9.0 or british 9.7 its so much more enjoyable.
Yo justin i was playing in the same game as you in the “so so sniper” chapter it was a really fun time playing in the same team as you and btw a hint of who i was look for the fanch clan member
Hi Justin! I hope you're doing well today, I was wondering that when you will make a video about the Chinese ZTZ59D1, please? I have been waiting for quite some time already. So I am hoping for it soon! Thank you and have a wonderful day! Also, keep it up because I really like your content!
Chieftain marksmen scares you XD na you should be more scared of my HSTV-L if it knows you exist XD
I love, love, love the 2K. It's not perfect, but it's still amazing, especially when you excpect first spawn helis on the enemy team.
5:34 yes, and no. The Germans didn’t like the kpz 70 project so they upgraded their leopard 1a3/1a4 into the 2k
Development of MBT-70 / KPz-70 led to the development of the M1 Abrams and Leopard 2 :)
It felt like the leopard 2k was the tank in the new battlefield trailer
Apprently the commander view on the CV90120 goes up to 24x, and I have been messing with it for a few days now. Using it the entire time in a video would be interesiting
I made a camio too, it was just right after you respawned :c
I got the 2K and 2PL at the same time, both's grind kinda ended up together.
Im so glad that i finally have a top tier lineup. Well 2PL is not top tier anymore but anyways xD
Yooo Justin to keep up the Leopard going can you play the Leopard 1, Im using it to research the Bagel panzer and then the Leopard a1a1!
The thing that kills it for me is the no thermals.
At the tier you fight basically only thermals which puts this thing at a huge disadvantage in my opinion it should get ther.als or go down to 9.3
My favorite Leopard
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Is it me or is justin's hanger very diffrent? is there an option to change the way it looks like to him?
does Leopard 2k not have a ready rack ?
You should try the amx 40, basically a better leopard 2k in every way
Babe wake up a new justinplays video
N O I I C E ! ! 👍👍
12:11 nice!!!
It has the exact same mass and horsepower as the KPz-70.
Ariete PSO at 11.0 good M E M E S
Tonight on thunder gear
A man can't do simple math 1:35
Everyone talks about tanks in 8.7 br ,9.7 and else
While me : suffers in 5.7 br with germany tanks grinding for panther g to get leopard 1
Currently torn between progressing my Soviets and my Germans as I enjoy both... Sooner or later I'll have the leopard though 😂
9:00 Some infighting in the clan? :)
"I really don't like Stalingrad"
Yeah, you and the entire German 6th army 😂
9:02 The day an innocent person in one of JustinPlays's squadrons got killed by the Actual Justin
Do you think you can play the type 62
Is the soldiers next to his tank, a custom hangar or is it applicable in the settings?
Yes, Kpz did lead up to Leo 2.
Who ever is asking to get rid of teddy has no heart for him. Keep teddy on the tank
I never did like the 2k, it just sits there even in my top tier lineups gathering dust. The lack of thermals kills it for me 😭
Also 12:20 STREAMER BIAS
You should try the first German m48 it’s pretty good
This tank remmember to me squadron battle 10.7 my friends use this and me m1 abrams to carry team.. All my team use Top BR MBT
Hey justin did you hear the us may be getting a new mbt in game I was told by ash in his Video going over the leaked vehicles
Can you play the T32E1?
Where i can got , your hangar ?
Waiting on a map vote system
That 20mm is busted , broken & op , gaijin logic is to make tanks better than AA's & AA's better than tanks. Anyway greetings Justin
2a4 question mark???
Replay of M26?
Please do the amx32 next
Why no thermal so frustrating
"Omg look at all those turms" yup the t72 turms has basically become what the leo l44 is for 9.0. Get 5 kills and you kill half the team lmfao
Radkampfwagen 90 pls^^ Speed is armor
It never faced T 80BVM......
You've lost the driver Justin and commander took his place. Since he is not a driver, performance drop in mobility can be tolerated.
At battle start i mostly die by helis. Its pretty fun.
Finally......
this thing is a anti air with a 120mm
morning justin
Had no idea this tank had a 20 mm on it too im so excited to get it!
Play the amx40 :D
1500hp and 50 tons is it realy so hard to do the math justin
Tam2c pls and rad90 they both got bumped up in br :(
2:40 Shit on me all you want, but i think stalingrad at low to mid-tier is heavenly.
I think it’s a decent map for all tiers really. Style of gameplay doesn’t really change at different tiers. There’s no mountains for MBT’s to climb and shoot into spawn, just like so in lower tiers
2:38 Ich auch nit'!
Play the challenger 2 2f yay
After warching your videos i knew enemies r all bot
Play the chinese anti air pls
i guess 8th? also loved the vid
is the Leopard 2K created by Gaijin not real German ?
ok now redo the 279
*screams in russian*
I hate this stupid single prototype tank canceled for problems with 20mm and multiple other issues
Hey my friend jack that play’s with you is gay btw