Having a 9.3 tank with a Stabilize 20mm cannon with a reload rate of 6.0 seconds which if they did do and it being put to 9.3 would make the leopard 2k broken . It would be fun though
Somehow I prefer the KPZ much more than the 2K. The extra pen doesn’t matter that much if you know where to shoot. But the KPZ is lower, faster, reload faster, same 20mm, same no thermal. So I never touched this thing after it’s moved to 9.7.
The Leopard 2K was the prototype for today's leopard 2. I think about 17 pieces were built and Canada wanted to continue using this design of the prototype for their leopard.That's why it also has the 120mm l44 Rheinmetall gun and the 1500Ps MTU engine (Maybach engine). Der Leopard 2K war der Prototyp für den heutigen Leopard 2. Ich denke, es wurden etwa 17 Stück gebaut und Kanada wollte dieses Design des Prototyps weiterhin für seinen Leoparden verwenden.Daher hat der auch die 120mm l44 Rheinmetall Kanone und den 1500Ps starken MTU-motor (Maybach-Motor).
Justin experiences a trend of full uptiers. Bro that's been my experience for 90% of matches for the whole 4 years I've been playing war thunder, no matter what br I play.
Not that it needs them, but the 2K did have thermals installed in the PT11(the one we have ingame) and PT16 turrets, so im still curious on why gaijin has neglected that since they removed the 2k thermals without really good sources to back them up, if it got them tho, it'll definetly be 10.0 material, but overall is just something i find interesing
Never heard about a 2K with thermals, but why would it need to go up in BR if it would get thermals? We already have a shitton of tanks at 9.7 and lower with them, and not only Gen 1s, so why should 2K go up in BR to get deleted by 11.0s.
@@SnoW-pk9zo because it already has everything going for it, fastest leopard in the game, same ammo as the 2a4, the 20mm, a slightly slower RoF that could also be increased to the standard 7.8 seconds too. Why should it go to 10.0? Because the lack of thermals is the only thing that holds this tank in a lot of maps, yes other 9.7s have thermals but they are nowhere near the level of the 2k, challengermk2? Only if hull down, turms? Premium and should be higher too, amx-40? Slower, weaker ammo, less survivability, a weaker 2k pretty much, there is a reason many 9.7s got moved to 10.0, this tank could easily be a 10.0 with thermals, it would easily beat the 2a4 since the only thing that tank has going for it vs the 2k are thermals and RoF because against what both armor is useless (shouldn't be relying in armor to begin with)
1. they shadow nerfed the 2k's driving performance a little while back. 2. only in WT would a tank full of diesel fuel explode when hit by an APFSDS round.
@@giorgiogalliano05 I think your confusing gas with diesel, they do not work the same way. Even a standard flame such as a lighter will not ignite diesel fuel, to get it to explode like WT you would need it to be under a great deal of pressure and exposed to heat for a relatively long period of time. Quickly touching unpressurized liquid diesel with a hot piece of metal will NOT cause it to explode. If the metal is hot enough it could catch fire though... so a fuel tank fire is and was a serious risk for tank crews.
I completely agree with the 2K feeling sluggish, supposedly some Germans tank got a transmission rework and that affected the 2K a slight bit. that and the added effect of the olive oil tracks made the tank hella slow compared to what it was when the 2K fought M1s and T64s only. there's also something I've noticed, in Sim battles the 2K retained it's mobility and is not the only tank to have that "problem", i assume it's because the Sim battles have been left and ruled out over the years but at least in my experience the 2K in Sim feels a whole lot snappier than in RB. try it and see what you think
@@therealmp40 it is, 30hp per ton, it has a higher Power to weight ratio than the Abrams family and the highest out of the Leo family. back in the day it was probably the best MBT in terms of mobility and agility and it still should be but you know, Gaijin makes changes.
2K originally had the same reload time as the current 2A4 which i find kinda funny that they didnt give it that back aswell like they did with the 2a6 when they moved it to 11.0
@@monkeypuppies444 well it kinda makes sense no? One loader needs to lift a shell and the other has it already shoulder / breech hight, unless I'm missing something or misunderstood you
@@monkeypuppies444 but then again I'm pretty sure the arietes have stupid faster reload rates even though their ammo is not stored in the turret which is dumb
@@kivo902_ if you watch video's of tank loading in say, a Leo one its really not that hard to left the shell up from the position its placed at, and also its a video game so i'd be fine with a buffed reload even if it "Realistically" doesnt make sense.
@@monkeypuppies444 I mean a leo 1 has a 105mm shell, leo2k has 120mm, and it's not like it needs a better reload, I was using it before the dm23 came out and it was still really good, and with a good crew your reload is still faster than russians but yeah I see what you mean
please give him thermals ^^ i absolutely adore this tank for its insane mobility. There is nothing out there that compared to it, except the swedish leopards with 1800hp lol
This tank has aged quite well but I have noticed that it's kinda sluggish too but it's still a very fast cat and in general is a very unforgiving tank if you know what you're doing. Only thing I wish they add eventually is thermals like others have said, in 9.7 where you can easily get night battles NV just doesn't cut it for me, especially with the flares, you can easily get blinded a lot of the times.
The Leopard 2K, still amongst my best K/D and Winrate vehicles with 100+ matches Played it a ton when the XM-1 was being spamming by noobs new to top-tier and I didn't play it since
Yeah it just made every tank just a little more painful for no reason. What does it add? It’s not even more realistic. We all know they won’t reverse the changes…
Wehraboo detected. 2K still has broken overpower 20 mm that one shots gun barrels, plus absolute trolly armor, that is immune to weaker rounds. No reason to downtier it with DM23.
Love the 2k, Made me fall in love with MBT's and their play style
Tbh I'm surprised they didn't buff the reload to the higher 120mm standard as their justification for it not going down to 9.3
Having a 9.3 tank with a Stabilize 20mm cannon with a reload rate of 6.0 seconds which if they did do and it being put to 9.3 would make the leopard 2k broken . It would be fun though
@@joestueckrath5275 what makes it even more broken in 9.3 is that this tank has 120mm L/44 with DM 23
@@cloudysoup9056 we can all agree that gaijin made the right decision by not putting it down to 9.3 and instead keeping it at 9.7
Somehow I prefer the KPZ much more than the 2K. The extra pen doesn’t matter that much if you know where to shoot. But the KPZ is lower, faster, reload faster, same 20mm, same no thermal. So I never touched this thing after it’s moved to 9.7.
I really found the nord video funny, perfectly encapsulated the CAS experience.
I loved the CAS experience BTW. Loved when the doggo launched the bullpup 😂
man, when they added the 2k it was insane at 9.3 he had a pen of 433, he blapped everyone and, yes that was the dm23 . the dm 13 had 417
When top tier tank was 10.0?
@@NCSiebertdesign uh maybe?
One of my fave leos, just love the playstyle of rushing to flank/contest areas
The Leopard 2K was the prototype for today's leopard 2. I think about 17 pieces were built and Canada wanted to continue using this design of the prototype for their leopard.That's why it also has the 120mm l44 Rheinmetall gun and the 1500Ps MTU engine (Maybach engine). Der Leopard 2K war der Prototyp für den heutigen Leopard 2. Ich denke, es wurden etwa 17 Stück gebaut und Kanada wollte dieses Design des Prototyps weiterhin für seinen Leoparden verwenden.Daher hat der auch die 120mm l44 Rheinmetall Kanone und den 1500Ps starken MTU-motor (Maybach-Motor).
12:50 I'm pretty sure that the loader is positioned that way, but 2A4 can be maxed out to 6.0s due to more spacious turret. :3
Justin experiences a trend of full uptiers. Bro that's been my experience for 90% of matches for the whole 4 years I've been playing war thunder, no matter what br I play.
Not that it needs them, but the 2K did have thermals installed in the PT11(the one we have ingame) and PT16 turrets, so im still curious on why gaijin has neglected that since they removed the 2k thermals without really good sources to back them up, if it got them tho, it'll definetly be 10.0 material, but overall is just something i find interesing
Never heard about a 2K with thermals, but why would it need to go up in BR if it would get thermals? We already have a shitton of tanks at 9.7 and lower with them, and not only Gen 1s, so why should 2K go up in BR to get deleted by 11.0s.
Why it having thermals push it to 10.0?
@@goofy851 I agree. Many 9.7 have thermals already
@@SnoW-pk9zo because it already has everything going for it, fastest leopard in the game, same ammo as the 2a4, the 20mm, a slightly slower RoF that could also be increased to the standard 7.8 seconds too.
Why should it go to 10.0? Because the lack of thermals is the only thing that holds this tank in a lot of maps, yes other 9.7s have thermals but they are nowhere near the level of the 2k, challengermk2? Only if hull down, turms? Premium and should be higher too, amx-40? Slower, weaker ammo, less survivability, a weaker 2k pretty much, there is a reason many 9.7s got moved to 10.0, this tank could easily be a 10.0 with thermals, it would easily beat the 2a4 since the only thing that tank has going for it vs the 2k are thermals and RoF because against what both armor is useless (shouldn't be relying in armor to begin with)
@@ishiddddd4783 actually. I agree with you know
"I'll try spinning, thats a good trick"
Can't believe I missed the CAS Experience video, hilarious. My favourite being the dog paw and wallet click xD
The Leo 2k is my favorite tank in the game. It's fast, decent armor, awesome gun and ammo, and has a 20 mm
It has the worst armor of any mbt at 9.7
Also has the least amount of pen
1. they shadow nerfed the 2k's driving performance a little while back.
2. only in WT would a tank full of diesel fuel explode when hit by an APFSDS round.
You know that an APFSDS is extremely hot when it’s fired? It’s obvious that when you hit a fuel tank it explode
@@giorgiogalliano05 I think your confusing gas with diesel, they do not work the same way. Even a standard flame such as a lighter will not ignite diesel fuel, to get it to explode like WT you would need it to be under a great deal of pressure and exposed to heat for a relatively long period of time. Quickly touching unpressurized liquid diesel with a hot piece of metal will NOT cause it to explode. If the metal is hot enough it could catch fire though... so a fuel tank fire is and was a serious risk for tank crews.
7:46
Can we appreciate the accuracy of this shot ?
*it's not that hard*
I agree that it feels a bit sluggish now. It got 30hp/ton, it should be one of, if not the fastest mbt
it is actually pretty nice addition imo because now you can finally pen the ufp of the Turms t
You could already do that with the DM 13
@@john5189 nah in my experience I couldnt, except maybe at point blank. I know what protection analysis is saying but its not right.
Also 105mm DM33 can't pen that for "some" reason
@@combatantezoteric2965 I've killed Turms with the M833 shell in the UFP.
You need to be close range to do it.
@@john5189 possibily but i would rather not risk it xD
I completely agree with the 2K feeling sluggish, supposedly some Germans tank got a transmission rework and that affected the 2K a slight bit. that and the added effect of the olive oil tracks made the tank hella slow compared to what it was when the 2K fought M1s and T64s only.
there's also something I've noticed, in Sim battles the 2K retained it's mobility and is not the only tank to have that "problem", i assume it's because the Sim battles have been left and ruled out over the years but at least in my experience the 2K in Sim feels a whole lot snappier than in RB.
try it and see what you think
That's odd, the 2K always felt like the more responsive and nifty of all the Leos
@@therealmp40 it is, 30hp per ton, it has a higher Power to weight ratio than the Abrams family and the highest out of the Leo family.
back in the day it was probably the best MBT in terms of mobility and agility and it still should be but you know, Gaijin makes changes.
Leopard 2a4 has turret stowed ammo, this means the loader doesnt have to lift it, hence the shorter reload than the 2k
2K originally had the same reload time as the current 2A4 which i find kinda funny that they didnt give it that back aswell like they did with the 2a6 when they moved it to 11.0
@@monkeypuppies444 well it kinda makes sense no? One loader needs to lift a shell and the other has it already shoulder / breech hight, unless I'm missing something or misunderstood you
@@monkeypuppies444 but then again I'm pretty sure the arietes have stupid faster reload rates even though their ammo is not stored in the turret which is dumb
@@kivo902_ if you watch video's of tank loading in say, a Leo one its really not that hard to left the shell up from the position its placed at, and also its a video game so i'd be fine with a buffed reload even if it "Realistically" doesnt make sense.
@@monkeypuppies444 I mean a leo 1 has a 105mm shell, leo2k has 120mm, and it's not like it needs a better reload, I was using it before the dm23 came out and it was still really good, and with a good crew your reload is still faster than russians but yeah I see what you mean
Just had a monster game with 2K, 17 kills in a single game, that tank is just amazing.
Overpowered and broken and biased u mean
Even the KPZ-70 is at 9.3 and has a 6.0 reload and the MBT-70 is 7.5
@@thebirbestbirb Why are you crying?
@@thebirbestbirb Its not overpowered, broken and biased, i dont know what are you talking about.
@@thebirbestbirb Cope
do one on the 2A4 so they'll give it DM33
R.I.P 2and900 - War Thunder Weekly
Obj 685 nxt?
Since u played many IFVs and some of them r played twice but never seen this boi
please give him thermals ^^
i absolutely adore this tank for its insane mobility. There is nothing out there that compared to it, except the swedish leopards with 1800hp lol
The Swedish leopards have the same engine as the German ones.
@@simonlind44 as far as I know they should have modifications which offer more power increase. But yes the engine is the same
@@kek207 1300ish HP stock, 1500 spaded. At least the Strv 122s I got.
@@simonlind44 he’s talking about rl not in game
It never haved thermals irl
My favourite MBT. So much fun.
same. I cant go back to anything slower though...
This tank has aged quite well but I have noticed that it's kinda sluggish too but it's still a very fast cat and in general is a very unforgiving tank if you know what you're doing. Only thing I wish they add eventually is thermals like others have said, in 9.7 where you can easily get night battles NV just doesn't cut it for me, especially with the flares, you can easily get blinded a lot of the times.
laugh in russia not having thermals until 10.0
I just got this one today, stock is not as painful as a1a1
Watched the CAS experience and I thought it was pretty funny.
Wish the 2A4 got DM33
If that happens the m1a1 deserves 10.0
The strv 121 should have slpprj m95(625pen)
@@einar8019 Don you mean the 122? Bec if the 121 had it, it would be 10.7 minimum.
@@MD-wn4ui all of the swedish leopards 2's used the slpprj m95 and no other ap
Love the content man!
They need to give it some thermals heck. 9.7 without them kinda sucks
Russian 9.7 would like to speak with you
@@thenewstanza9069 cof turms spam cof
@@SnoW-pk9zo Yeah but that’s a premium, even Germany 9.7 has the Tam2C and that has thermals
@@thenewstanza9069 true dat
The first I used was the Leo 2k in the dev server for update red skies
Please revisit the t72 AV Turms🤣
my friend who had leo 2k will be happy
I rather have thermals instead of a new shell
The Leopard 2K, still amongst my best K/D and Winrate vehicles with 100+ matches
Played it a ton when the XM-1 was being spamming by noobs new to top-tier and I didn't play it since
Hey Justin, think you could revisit the Type 74G? It's been about or a bit over a year, I think
What is the videos name you mentioned while playing the plane?
3.12 DM43 actualy existed irl!!
Yeah there's a glitch going around where your machine guns will just start firing randomly
You are welcome, keep it up, amazing content for such effort, make my day better.
15:40 It really does fight against 11.0
The only downside is not having thermals. I always uptier my 2K to get to a position earlier than everyone.
A lot of the vehicles have gotten a mobility nerf with the new patch. A whole bunch of vehicles more sluggish & this includes the m18’s
6:19 was that a voice crack?
Correct me if im wrong but isnt the 2K held the record of the highest win rate ever 97%
Can you play the BMP-3 again?
yeeeesssssssssssssssss
Could be cool with NVIII on this great pice of tank
Oh no in Germany the Army only uses apfsds and heatfs
What’s that custom reticle?
Да как вы это делаете?! 6:02
Как ты после определения дальности в прицеле моментально выставляешь нужную высоту?
What custom sight is that?
Please cover the rad90
6:19 what the hell there is someone shouting tf
Whats ur opinion on the recent economy changes?
What is this sight called
Reeeee revisit
Nice justin
Could you share your graph settings
Imagine guiding AGM’s…
give its fkin thermals back!!
How do u get an hangar like that
Leo 2k is good, but it will be better if it god thermal
What is the name of this sight?
Hey Justin, I'm sure you got this question for too many times but can i have the name or link for your sight on the 2K?
Here you go: live.warthunder.com/post/913542/en/
@@joeses4162 tanks a lot mate, i didn't get the notification for your reply so sorry for the late appreciation ^^
@@Evrimomono you're good mate
Yeah the 2k feels sluggish right now
Because they change the physics in one of few patches ago. I agree it's worse that what it was.
can u do another video on the ariete(p) please
DM43 is a real round
I think no Leo used it. They got DM53, instead.
@@bickboose9364 yeah its the Leclerc mbt round but as its still a standard nato round the leos could still use them
@@subiejay1773 Sadly ingame DM43 has the wrong muzzle velocity right now. It has 1660 m/s when it should be 1740 m/s
DM12 VS DM23?
Idk why I still ask justin about play the T 10M ;-;
Can we get a video on the starship?
yeah this is exactly the reason why I hate playing russian 10.7
you just lose forever
You should play the xm1
U sound so nice ...but u are so evil 😆
>:D
Please bring Ariete justin 🙏🙏🙏
*yes*
Yea the traction nerfs really killed a lot of stuff… need to remove it
Yeah it just made every tank just a little more painful for no reason. What does it add? It’s not even more realistic. We all know they won’t reverse the changes…
its same as dm13, adds 0 benefit of paying double of what dm13 cost.
AMX-40… Give me new shell please
FINALLY!!!
Now we wait for the thermals..
@@sirsquadie3383 no
CHALLENGER MK3
its a leopard skin justin, the tank is called a leopard, it has a leopard skin, its a predator, only to get oofed by some kurdy boys
Yes, pliz upload the video about nords~
Kinda satisfiying to see thos boops~
12:50 wtf u just say
Sorry Justin, but FAILjin and "balance" cant be in same sentence if are not separated by a big, fat NO!
Down tiers every game again.. wow.
XM-1 is better in every way and sits at 9.3 for ages. Murica SuFfeRs
What
How dumb must you be thinking XM1 better than 2K...
Wehraboo detected. 2K still has broken overpower 20 mm that one shots gun barrels, plus absolute trolly armor, that is immune to weaker rounds. No reason to downtier it with DM23.
@@Kubulin24 wehraboo are something else like the 2k is better in almost every way than the xm1 aside from br
@@Kubulin24 the 20mm is very inconsistent now and the armor is completely useless. So what are you talking about?
2k really doesn’t sit well at 9.7. Without thermals it is subpar and outclassed by every other 9.7 out there.