I think there’s something to be said about the potential for never seeing your handgun again after a defensive shooting regardless if it’s found to be justified or not. Depending on the jurisdiction, it may well be a struggle to get your weapon returned from local law enforcement. And even if you do get it ultimately returned, it could cost ($$) you additional time and money to accomplish. Having an EDC that set you back a few thousand buck$ would certainly motivate you to spend the necessary time and money to fight for its return… setting you back even more money! But a correspondingly economical (but reliable) defensive handgun would make that situation a much less bitter pill to swallow. Something to consider❗️
I totally agree. Depending on which state, county, and even town/city, there's a great chance of getting your pistol back. I bought(on an impulse) a Canik MC9, and I love it. But I hadn't heard about the Stoeger until I did some research on the MC9 and came across the STR 9MC. Now, I want to buy the SC upon this review.
Man, if you think Stoeger is junk because of the price, you shouldn’t own guns,…or pointy sticks. Stoeger makes quality firearms that have top notch craftsmanship. Materials are top notch as well.
They look similar to XDM mags. I like budget pistols. I'm cheap and still carry an old Glock 23 law enforcement trade in and j-frame for daily carry. Currently I'm vetting the Shield 40/357, Shield 45 2.0, and Taurus G3C. All three of these cost under $200 each. If the G3C tests out fine I might use it to take place of my Glock but time will tell but I will stick to one and a j-frame and no rotation business.
Ok this is probly the ONLY thing that I can think of that is good, coming out of this economy. Manufacturers are seeing the light. Not only do they save costs, not designing mags and releases for each and every model they make. But the practical applications are highly appealing to the consumer.
Thanks for your content and for being yourself. You are not as experienced as or opinionated as others on Utube and it’s refreshing. “I’m a guy with a family, a job and wife and here’s my take for the working folks who can’t afford some 500- 2000 gun. Thanks man.
I just picked up my first g26 because of you and am loving it. Selling my 43x! I picked up the coolfire c02 laser trainer to go inside the g26 and am having a blast! Ergos are waymobetta than all of the micro 9s I’ve been running through!
I own not one Beretta but the quality of the Stoeger STR-9mc rear sights guide rod grip texture slide finish trigger are better than most micro compacts being sold today so far mine has been a joy to shoot at the range 200 rounds through it it has been totally flawless l shoot this little gun very well
I had the opportunity to shoot the Canik mete MC9 (my edc) and the stoeger str 9mc (dads edc). Both shoot amazing and the recoil is very manageable. Both are very nice in the hands and shooting. The stoeger is a little thinner than the mc9 but both recoil about the same. Both are amazing options. I shot the stoeger with the flush magazine and having my pinky not on the grip didn't want to jump out of my hands.
I'm old enough to remember when "made in Japan" was a negative. People who dismiss Stoeger because they're in Turkey and have a low price tag have never seen a Turkish-built yacht. No place in the world is the disparity between the high quality of workmanship and low price of labor more extreme. Take advantage while it lasts.
Have you actually shot the larger capacity mags in the STR-9MC? I bought two 15 round STR mags when I bought my 9MC and neither would feed more than a few rounds before having a nose up jam (typically sign of the spring not being stiff enough - which I could tell the 15 round mag springs were NOT stiff). I contacted support and they agreed to let me send in the 15 round mags and get back the 2 mags that typically ship with the gun.
True words. I have 3 Glocks and one sig. my glock 29 is at the gunsmith now. My 26, issued 17, and p226 are perfect, thank god. I’m interested in the beretta .380 cheetah though
My Mossberg MC2C and MC2SC have mag compatibility with each other. I love my Mossbergs but holster compatibility is what gets me. Slim fit and Black Arch make good holsters for the Mossbergs but I’m a Tier 1 guy. Holster compatibility and aftermarket support is what prevents me from buying any Stoegers
@@spnfirearmsTrue. That is super impressive. Hopefully they catch on and become super popular so T1C starts making holsters for them. If that happens I’ll def pick them up
have the STR9 and STR9SC, standard needed a break in period, but good to go now, and the 9SC never had a single failure, 500ish rounds Realize thats not supper high, but normally the cheaper handguns ive bought have break in issues in the first 100 rounds
The STR9 really caught my eye, the model with a mepro front sight. I can't bring myself to spend twice the amount for the same performance. That's why I shy away from the more famous brands.
Could Glock make thinner magazines for higher capacity? Probably. Will they? Doubt it. They are the pretty much the flagship for the definition of reliability (at an affordable price, I mean) and have a specific set of designs that is time tested and battle proven. At least up until Gaston's death, they were not willing to risk the reliability for different or experimental designs - they have a formula that works well. Whether they will change things or not now, I don't know... I would actually rather they didn't, but seems like a lot of people are really hung up on innovation. The other thing is, for the 43X/48, they're not going to bring it up to where it is competition for the g19. It's still their worldwide bestseller.
I have both 9c and 9sc no malfunction yet using 115 grain 124, 147, hollow point flawless over a thousand rounds. Am glad I see you have 9mc will get that one too.
The reason why they have such good magazine interchangeability is because all 3 guns are damn close to the same size. They're really not in 3 different size classes, despite what they're named. True micro 9mms like the P365 or Hellcat are thinner. The "budget" brands like Stoeger and Canik don't build new guns from the ground up. They just chop off the grip and barrel length of the full-size guns and call them subcompacts or micros.
I bought a Glock 48 it jammed and had light primer strikes off center the first mag I ran through it and continued the next mag had to send it to Glock, they still have it 2 months later. bought a Taurus Gx4 carry, and it has ran flawlessly so far, so that and my Walther PPS M2 are my EDC right now
If it shoots and you can handle it properly it's a good gun for you. It's actually better to go with a cheap gun for a carry gun because the cops will confiscate it and you might never see it again.
I’m not rich but I work 55-60 hours per week as a plumber (which is a great career path, especially in the state I live in) and I run a RUclips channel. I put a lot of money back into the channel..
We need Hawg STASH and a Vedder pocket locker options.. prefer Vedder but Hawg would actually make it first. I want one but just need some holster options first… definitely a sleeper gun 💯🔥
Off-topic, I bought a dagger, micro, C1 the compensated, slide micro. I am having failure to eject on almost every round. I switched it with my Glock 43X stock guide rod that did nothing. Could it be anything besides the ejector that is bad? It actually ran in the first 50 or 60 round with no problem if that helps tell you anything. Thanks for any help!
@@spnfirearms Yes! The slide isn’t running smoothly so I actually over oiled it but nothing and it worked fine for the first 50 or so rounds! I will look closer to see if there are any obvious dragging issues! Thanks for responding brother! Have a great week!!
Different ish size weight and memory/gas pedal. Do you want option to Pocket Carry as well? My vid will come in awhile already filmedb3way w Max9 and have tabletop live already.
Since the Intro of the Taurus G series, spending over $300 on a gun has officially become discretionary. You gotta want a particular gun or feature. You can't really argue reputability much anymore.
These are the handguns I’m getting and they come with a $50 rebate but what do you think about the regular version? What do you think about the full size version and what do you think about the 40 Cal version?
I have the regular version and it’s been great. The full size will run the same as the compact! And the .40 I have no experience with but I’m sure it runs real nice escapist with the guide rods they use!
Bro, the Country is fine and economy is booming-the people complaining need to stop and get off their Azz and work. There’s more opportunities than ever!
Make a run with different guns like this… Can you pass? Bakersfield PD Qual #p365 #cz #cz75 #p01 #a01 #shootingdrills ruclips.net/video/jmDe-BwwXBc/видео.html I’v got a fraction of the subs. I had a guy tell me he had a hard time believing I was having the problem with the H9 that I showed evidence of…some people… Keep up your good work.
The 13 round mag runs flawlessly in the SC AS WELL!!
Now that I have both the SC and the MC when I carry the SC I actually slap the 13 round MC mag into it.
I think there’s something to be said about the potential for never seeing your handgun again after a defensive shooting regardless if it’s found to be justified or not. Depending on the jurisdiction, it may well be a struggle to get your weapon returned from local law enforcement. And even if you do get it ultimately returned, it could cost ($$) you additional time and money to accomplish. Having an EDC that set you back a few thousand buck$ would certainly motivate you to spend the necessary time and money to fight for its return… setting you back even more money! But a correspondingly economical (but reliable) defensive handgun would make that situation a much less bitter pill to swallow. Something to consider❗️
Canik did this 3-4 years ago ..but sure
I totally agree. Depending on which state, county, and even town/city, there's a great chance of getting your pistol back. I bought(on an impulse) a Canik MC9, and I love it. But I hadn't heard about the Stoeger until I did some research on the MC9 and came across the STR 9MC. Now, I want to buy the SC upon this review.
Man, if you think Stoeger is junk because of the price, you shouldn’t own guns,…or pointy sticks. Stoeger makes quality firearms that have top notch craftsmanship. Materials are top notch as well.
I don’t know much about that brand . One important detail is how it feels in the hand for me personally
Awesome video. Appreciate what you do! You're video's got me to concealed carry everyday. Just picked up the shield plus a month ago.
Awesome man, great choice and that’s what’s this channel is all about. I appreciate the support and respect
They look similar to XDM mags.
I like budget pistols. I'm cheap and still carry an old Glock 23 law enforcement trade in and j-frame for daily carry. Currently I'm vetting the Shield 40/357, Shield 45 2.0, and Taurus G3C. All three of these cost under $200 each. If the G3C tests out fine I might use it to take place of my Glock but time will tell but I will stick to one and a j-frame and no rotation business.
Ok this is probly the ONLY thing that I can think of that is good, coming out of this economy. Manufacturers are seeing the light. Not only do they save costs, not designing mags and releases for each and every model they make. But the practical applications are highly appealing to the consumer.
Great comment, agreed 100%! Respect
Thanks for your content and for being yourself. You are not as experienced as or opinionated as others on Utube and it’s refreshing. “I’m a guy with a family, a job and wife and here’s my take for the working folks who can’t afford some 500- 2000 gun. Thanks man.
I appreciate that comment man. Thanks for watching and respect. Lots more to come
I just picked up my first g26 because of you and am loving it. Selling my 43x! I picked up the coolfire c02 laser trainer to go inside the g26 and am having a blast! Ergos are waymobetta than all of the micro 9s I’ve been running through!
You really do out work everybody else. You also are very transparent and honest about your experiences with firearms.
Keep up the good work SPN.
I appreciate that greatly man, respect and lots more to come!
Favorite guntuber
I appreciate that greatly man! Respect and thank you
Agreed- top class.😃
A SPN Firearms collaborative video with Honest Outlaw on Pocket 9mms be fun to watch.
He’s mine too for his reviews of tiny water guns.😂
@@hillyseattlenarrowstreets6087I would be honored to!
Every time u drop a video I'm watching great/perfect videos
I appreciate that greatly man. Thank you for the support and respect
I own not one Beretta but the quality of the Stoeger STR-9mc rear sights guide rod grip texture slide finish trigger are better than most micro compacts being sold today so far mine has been a joy to shoot at the range 200 rounds through it it has been totally flawless l shoot this little gun very well
Love the budget guns, and the Stoegers specifically.
Do a video on the apx a1 carry. I’m legitimately curious your opinion on it
Okay I’ll order one this week or so! Respect
Heads up, @spnfirearms the APX A1 carry is short & sweet ... BUT ... the trigger is so unbelievably bad. Love to see the review, though.
I had the opportunity to shoot the Canik mete MC9 (my edc) and the stoeger str 9mc (dads edc). Both shoot amazing and the recoil is very manageable. Both are very nice in the hands and shooting. The stoeger is a little thinner than the mc9 but both recoil about the same. Both are amazing options. I shot the stoeger with the flush magazine and having my pinky not on the grip didn't want to jump out of my hands.
I'm old enough to remember when "made in Japan" was a negative. People who dismiss Stoeger because they're in Turkey and have a low price tag have never seen a Turkish-built yacht. No place in the world is the disparity between the high quality of workmanship and low price of labor more extreme. Take advantage while it lasts.
Stoeger makes great pistols. So does CZ.
My buddy has an entire fudd collection but he carries a damn sccy. Nothing can change his mind either.
Now that's crazy
Have you actually shot the larger capacity mags in the STR-9MC? I bought two 15 round STR mags when I bought my 9MC and neither would feed more than a few rounds before having a nose up jam (typically sign of the spring not being stiff enough - which I could tell the 15 round mag springs were NOT stiff). I contacted support and they agreed to let me send in the 15 round mags and get back the 2 mags that typically ship with the gun.
I have a tisas px9 carry. 375 great gun
Thankyou Brother. I appreciate your shows. Great work and knowledge.. keep it coming for the common man
Thanks man, that really means a lot. I appreciate the support instead of hate. Respect and lots more to come!
SPN a.k.a The Modest gun guy
True words. I have 3 Glocks and one sig. my glock 29 is at the gunsmith now. My 26, issued 17, and p226 are perfect, thank god. I’m interested in the beretta .380 cheetah though
That thumbnail was trippy. Looked like a futuristic gun.
Haha I’ll take it! Respect and thanks for watching
My Mossberg MC2C and MC2SC have mag compatibility with each other. I love my Mossbergs but holster compatibility is what gets me. Slim fit and Black Arch make good holsters for the Mossbergs but I’m a Tier 1 guy. Holster compatibility and aftermarket support is what prevents me from buying any Stoegers
But they are both slim line pistols… the same width. Not the case with these
@@spnfirearmsTrue. That is super impressive. Hopefully they catch on and become super popular so T1C starts making holsters for them. If that happens I’ll def pick them up
have the STR9 and STR9SC, standard needed a break in period, but good to go now, and the 9SC never had a single failure, 500ish rounds Realize thats not supper high, but normally the cheaper handguns ive bought have break in issues in the first 100 rounds
The STR9 really caught my eye, the model with a mepro front sight. I can't bring myself to spend twice the amount for the same performance. That's why I shy away from the more famous brands.
Could Glock make thinner magazines for higher capacity? Probably. Will they? Doubt it. They are the pretty much the flagship for the definition of reliability (at an affordable price, I mean) and have a specific set of designs that is time tested and battle proven. At least up until Gaston's death, they were not willing to risk the reliability for different or experimental designs - they have a formula that works well. Whether they will change things or not now, I don't know... I would actually rather they didn't, but seems like a lot of people are really hung up on innovation. The other thing is, for the 43X/48, they're not going to bring it up to where it is competition for the g19. It's still their worldwide bestseller.
I have both 9c and 9sc no malfunction yet using 115 grain 124, 147, hollow point flawless over a thousand rounds. Am glad I see you have 9mc will get that one too.
I like this one, it's next on my list. $350 how can you beat that
Str 9c in FDE was an absolute gem . Over 800ish rounds not a single problm .
The reason why they have such good magazine interchangeability is because all 3 guns are damn close to the same size. They're really not in 3 different size classes, despite what they're named. True micro 9mms like the P365 or Hellcat are thinner. The "budget" brands like Stoeger and Canik don't build new guns from the ground up. They just chop off the grip and barrel length of the full-size guns and call them subcompacts or micros.
Funny they would put that dorky adjustable sight on the micro. Do you know if Glock or Sig sights (or anything common) will fit the Stoeger?
I bought a Glock 48 it jammed and had light primer strikes off center the first mag I ran through it and continued the next mag had to send it to Glock, they still have it 2 months later. bought a Taurus Gx4 carry, and it has ran flawlessly so far, so that and my Walther PPS M2 are my EDC right now
If it shoots and you can handle it properly it's a good gun for you. It's actually better to go with a cheap gun for a carry gun because the cops will confiscate it and you might never see it again.
You must be rich to own that many guns & shoot that many rounds in a year
I’m not rich but I work 55-60 hours per week as a plumber (which is a great career path, especially in the state I live in) and I run a RUclips channel. I put a lot of money back into the channel..
Respect
Gotcha! Keep up the good work, enjoy the content
Just picked up a SC9 today from PSA. I also bought the MC9 micro. Really good firearms.
Only thing the stoegers are missing is holster options but they look like a great pickup.
We need Hawg STASH and a Vedder pocket locker options.. prefer Vedder but Hawg would actually make it first. I want one but just need some holster options first… definitely a sleeper gun 💯🔥
If you're up at 3am for work isn't it dark?
That’s when I wake up sir! I carry a handheld o light.
Luv my STR-9C -FDE 😍
Yes Yes fam what's up fam
Hellcat mags fit in the mc perfect. I mean even the cut out for 13 round us identical. But it doesn't catch the release latch I'm going try modify one
I want one, but l don't think they are on the CA Roster.
Off-topic, I bought a dagger, micro, C1 the compensated, slide micro. I am having failure to eject on almost every round. I switched it with my Glock 43X stock guide rod that did nothing. Could it be anything besides the ejector that is bad? It actually ran in the first 50 or 60 round with no problem if that helps tell you anything. Thanks for any help!
Could be the extractor as well.. I’ve heard they have some bad slide drag so potentially out of spec slide can’t cycle properly. Sounds interesting
@@spnfirearms Yes! The slide isn’t running smoothly so I actually over oiled it but nothing and it worked fine for the first 50 or so rounds! I will look closer to see if there are any obvious dragging issues! Thanks for responding brother! Have a great week!!
Does the stoeger str9sc take the canik TP9 mags? I’ve heard it does but not sure
Price of a firearm doesn’t matter there are high end firearms that are unreliable junk just like there are cheap firearms that are unreliable junk
Great video! Keep putting in the work 💪
I have 2 guns. Taurus g3 toro and Taurus gx4 toro. I’ve had no issues.
I love my stoger coach gun so I’ve only had good things from them
What is the difference in the trigger in the 9mc compared to the SC compared to the c? Thanks
The sc and c are basically the same trigger. The mc has an improved trigger. It’s shorter, lighter and crisper
@@spnfirearms k, think I am ordering the 9mc this weekend. Thanks for all time you spend for this channel.
Heh. I clicked the like button and it turned to "69".
Gotta love engagement to a video.
Thanks for the video SPN! Stay strong brother.
Haha respect! I appreciate that man. Lots more to come! Respect
The Stoeger 9mc vs the Shield Plus for everyday carry. . .Pros and cons.
Yea i wanna know his opinion on this as well.
Different ish size weight and memory/gas pedal. Do you want option to Pocket Carry as well? My vid will come in awhile already filmedb3way w Max9 and have tabletop live already.
My Stoeger has run flawlessly!!
Thanks for the videos. Have you checked out the new Rost Martin RM1c? Mine has been flawless so far.
The way the country is being run is insane?
Will a full size str9 mag work in the str9mc?
Yessir!
Since the Intro of the Taurus G series, spending over $300 on a gun has officially become discretionary. You gotta want a particular gun or feature. You can't really argue reputability much anymore.
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So I have a stoeger str9c and could put the full size mags into it?
Yessir!
And does this apply to the combat model magazines?
Just ordered all the parts for my 26 build gonna copy off you with the plus 5 baseplate
These are the handguns I’m getting and they come with a $50 rebate but what do you think about the regular version? What do you think about the full size version and what do you think about the 40 Cal version?
I have the regular version and it’s been great. The full size will run the same as the compact! And the .40 I have no experience with but I’m sure it runs real nice escapist with the guide rods they use!
wow i thought the MC had its own mag to make it smaller, i may actually buy one knowing it takes the larger mags that’s awesome
Well said!!!!
Interesting video a lot of conjecture. We will see how it does on the range.
Why would anyone even get the sc model. The Mc model. They're the same except Mc is higher capacity and lighter weight
Looks like other Gun-Tubers are noticing your 'what non gun people wanna know' style.
Ummm. Canik already did those with there MC9 .... Dont think stoegers are junk just my cabin mc9 uses all my canik mags from 21rd 15rd to the 12rd
Mc9 takes all the TP9, SFX and my rival ..also the canik elite SC but I sold that gun
What holster are you using for the sc?
Versacarry for the time being. Not a lot of options out there. I use the same holster as my 26 from Versacarry
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Umm... The 320 absolutely takes 365 mags with grip swap ..but again canik did this already great others following
You have to spend money on that right? You don’t with stoegers. That’s after market purchase
Bro, the Country is fine and economy is booming-the people complaining need to stop and get off their Azz and work. There’s more opportunities than ever!
Who sent you?
Make a run with different guns like this…
Can you pass? Bakersfield PD Qual #p365 #cz #cz75 #p01 #a01 #shootingdrills
ruclips.net/video/jmDe-BwwXBc/видео.html
I’v got a fraction of the subs. I had a guy tell me he had a hard time believing I was having the problem with the H9 that I showed evidence of…some people…
Keep up your good work.
I appreciate that, respect!
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