The History of the Barrow-downs - Region Spotlight
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2020
- The Barrow-downs were ancient burial grounds in the realm of Arnor and the petty-kingdom of Cardolan in Tolkien’s Middle-earth! Today, we will discuss the region’s history and what made it such a fell land, from honoured to accursed. Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts on the Barrow-downs in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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Another night at the Green Dragon with a fresh ale and pipe full of the shires finest weed, listening to another great tale of middle earth.
Cheers to that, my friend! Thanks for the support!
it's a cob full o'Virginie and a mug o'Joe fer me, but aye.
If by weed you mean cannabis, I have to completely agree
That sounds so fantastic.
@@thomasshirley318 he would probably mean "pipe weed" which would be called tobacco by you and me!
...buy hey, maybe Orcs or Dwarves smoked weed? Who knows?
The continued interest in tolkiens work is so heartwarming. I first read the LOTR in 1975 I believe. 45 years ago. I was pretty young and didn't retain much so I've read it another 30 or 40 times at least since then.
I like to read all the books every 3 years. The movies make me appreciate the books even more.
Never gets boring does it?
1973, 30 or 40 times myself.
Try the audiobook version for some variety, its great.
tokybook.com/lord-rings-audiobooks-01/
The Barrow Downs are a favorite place of mine in Middle Earth. Eerie hills full of dead things that move yet and lost treasures from a bygone age. Perfect for adventure.
I’m planning an adventure there for MERP (Middle Earth Role Playing). Thought it would be good to be based in Bree with the Downs and Weathertop nearby.
The entire tale of the Barrow-Downs and the house of Tom Bombadil would probably make for a worthwhile short film on its own. So if Peter Jackson won't do it, perhaps it's time for some smaller filmmaker to take on the challenge . . . perhaps in high-quality animation?
Nick Hentschel : I agree. It would be a great project for the teams that did ‘Born of Hope’ and ‘The Hunt for Gollum’.
It would not surprise me if in the future, Peter Jackson etc will add /fill in parts/re film. And add them to to the films.
Like they did in star wars. Remaster add sections etc.
I would love to see a scouring of the shire section.
Middle Earth in general would be a great setting for one of those Anime anthologies that comes along every once in a while (such as The Animatrix, Batman: Gotham Night, Halo: Legends).
Get Ralph Bakshi on it. His style would be super entertaining to see this story
The Witch King had Morgul Blades. When Frodo is wounded by a Morgul Blade it is said that if untreated he would fade into a wraith under the Witch Kings control.
I often wondered if that is where the burrow wights came from.
They were once heros who fought against the witch kings forces but were turned into lesser wraiths by the Morgul Blades.
I don’t blame them for cutting this whole section out, but man would the Barrow Wights have been great to see in live action.
I remember they were creepy enough in the Fellowship game - for the 3 people who remember that existed lmao - so I’m sure that whole region and the Wight could have been done great in the movie too.
the FPG for PS2? I remember that but I never played it, i was too addicted to the Onimusha games and GTA lol
but I did play LOTR The Third Age which was pretty fun
from the description it sounds like the barrow downs woulda been an interesting place for the films but I'm more than happy with the films we got
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Getting my dad to help me get past the black riders mission of FOTR before the forest is one of my first memories in gaming
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I'm one of those 3, much like Aragorn Legolas and Gimli we shall be kin for all time.
Im one of the ones who remember it. Yeah they were pretty damn creepy.
I've experienced it first hand in LotRO (seen in the video) and it's suitably creepy there. You even encounter crawling hands.
"The way is shut, it was made by those who are dead, and the dead keep it"
Always made me kind of sad what happened to the downs, it was supposed to b a place of rest for those that passed, but it ended up being a place of unrest 😬
May they b at peace now 🙏🏼
I love LOTR, the Silmarillion, and various other stories of Middle-Earth, but I never got through The Hobbit until I dated my guy. He was like, “Well we must remedy this,” and we read it chapter by chapter as we’ve dated. We’re planning on reading other stories together, as a way of staying connected while apart due to covid (he lives in a hotspot, and I’m chronically ill, so it’s a bit difficult to see him safely). Early on he compared me to the Arkenstone, and I knew he was the one. 😅 We’re planning to have a Tolkien inspired wedding with his young godson as ringbearer. His feet may or may not be fuzzy. 😁 In between our readings of Middle-Earth, I think this channel and its videos will be great content to both deepen our understanding of Tolkien’s work and satisfy the fantasy itch when reading one of the books isn’t really possible. Thanks for all the work you put in. Frodo lives!!!
History of the Barrow Downs, film version:
I think there's a frame of foggy hills in the extended cut of fellowship?
Now here’s something I never thought about: was that on purpose that Tolkien made a sword from Cardolan (and this, Arnor) to play a role in the dooming of the Witch King? Like a long overdue revenge from the very doom he had brought upon the kingdom centuries ago? 🤔
Absolutely, I love that idea! Arnor, while being a lost realm of old, still played a role in the defeats of Sauron and the nemesis of Arnor: the Witch-king.
I would agree. Tolkien didn't have that circle close itself like it did by accident.
Very likely.
I had that very same literary epiphany/internal monologue just as he began describing the handing out the weapons & treasures! My brain went all 🤯
The paragraph where Merry stabs the Witch King says that even the maker of the blade had no idea it would end up killing the Witch King himself.
Tolkien loves having the past return to the present in LoTR. Sam sees Earendil in the sky in Mordor. Treebeard comes to life and recalls the ancient times. The Fellowship literally walks into Khazad-dúm and Lothlorien. Minas Tirith ,Helm's Deep and Isengard are fortresses again, Aragorn awakens the dead.
It is all the same, one story despite time gaps.
I forgot that the barrow-downs existed until you posted this. I really liked that part of the book where Frodo had to save the lives of his friends from the barrow-wights.
Danae m : I liked the part where Frodo was tempted to abandon his unconscious friends and escape the barrow on his own, using the Ring. I’m sure the Ring put that thought in his head. Had Frodo been less noble and brave, and more like an ordinary hobbit, he would have done so, inevitably dooming himself.
Even if Frodo had survived to meet Strider at Bree on his own, most likely he would have been overcome by the Morgul blade the Witch King stabbed him with on Weathertop, as the torment of guilt for having abandoned his friends would have greatly weakened his will to resist its fell power. Frodo would have died, or worse still, become a wraith himself and taken the Ring to Sauron.
@@timonsolus Oof. I haven't read the book in a while so clearly I don't remember what happened or that Frodo was being tempted.
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Yup, Frodo was tempted by the ring to abandon Sam and co, but instead builds his courage by singing Bombadil's songs to himself, at which point Bombadil arrives to save them all anyway.
Another great video Yoystan! Although story-wise it made sense for it to be left out of the movies, it would have been such a cool sequence to have seen on the big screen!
Thank you, my friends! I absolutely agree. I think from a narrative standpoint it would have been great to see how courageous Frodo was in this scene (I would say the same with the Scouring of the Shire too), but it makes sense why they had to leave it out.
Oh look, it’s Rohan and Gondor, both unintentionally working together to fill my head with the lore and knowledge that is the beautiful world of JRR Tolkien’s.
I normally don’t ask questions or make requests, but since you’re both here, I’ll give y’all an easy one:
_If JRR Tolkien was still alive, and you got one chance to say or ask something.. what would you both say to him?_
I would probably thank him for showing both my childhood and adult life of tales of splendor and wonder, to thank him for not only paving a road of golden memories to my heart, but for also opening up my mind to the wonder that is proper storytelling, so that I may one day share it with the people I love, such as my two younger brothers, and hopefully one day, my own children, in full circle.. i~i
Well I am disappoint.
5:44 - Nice artwork depicting the barrowdowns. Really wish we could have an animated LOTR based more closely on the book
"All Hobbits are scared..." "Um, not all Hobbits" ...instantly Layla and her Prince quest comes to mind
Oh man LOL! The amount of times I have saved her from the Prince of Cardolan... haha
LMFAOO I DIEDDDD
That goddamn idiot! I was so mad when I died because of her 😂
@@MenoftheWest The amount of times a Barrow Wraith appeared while harvesting Barrow Iron nodes. I also love the secret passage just across the river in game from Bree.
That quest was likely the number one cause of ending the progress on the undefeated/undying titles. I really liked how barrow downs were done in that game though, I think they nailed it.
This could have added more of the horror-fantasy theme to the trilogy. Fellowship was scary as shit to me as a 9 year old in theaters 😂 became my favorite movie and lore set ever since
Especially that cave troll jump scare in moria, I never understood why they added that.
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I have been waiting so long for this video and I was not at all disappointed! The Barrow Downs is such an interesting location and I wish somewhat that it was further explored by Tolkien (though it's history had indeed been long laid out)
I agree, and I’m always somewhat disappointed whenever the history of the Barrow downs is told. It just never seems to w what I want it to be. I always want the wights to be something more mysterious than they are explained to be
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Thanks, this is perfect timing. Just finished playing some of the parts in the barrow-downs in lotr online. It's nice knowing more about the history.
I always wondered about the history of the Barrow-Downs. Thanks.🤗😁
Thank you so much for doing this! I've watched the movies a thousand times and not long ago decided to read the books. I finished The Hobbit and I am reading Fellowship now, I really liked the atmosphere Tolkien gave the Barrow Downs; it was ancient and there was more too it but of course it's just kind of left at that. Great videos, keep it up!
One of my favorite sections of The Fellowship Of The Ring!! I LOVE the symmetry of the Blade of Westernesse SMITING the nasty Lord of the Nazgul---take that you evil witch king!
I live for these videos!
Thanks for the info
Suggestion for your Region Spotlight series: The History of Eriador in the first and second age. Great channel, keep up the good work!
Wow. Wonderfully done, Mellon.
As an arachnophobe, you would think I would have trouble with Shelob and Ungoliant. Nope! Scenes with the Barrow-wights...sometimes get skipped! The barrow-downs and the barrow-wights TOTALLY creep me out! Perfect video leading up to the Halloween season :P Thanks for another great video!
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Great video Yoystan! It would have been really interesting to have seen the Hobbits go through the Barrow Downs some how in the movies. I loved this part of the book and remembering how anxious I got wanting to know what happened to Frodo, and company when I first read LOTR:FOTR.
Thanks Angel, I completely agree! I still get anxious when I read this part haha
Men of the West the Barrow Downs just gave you that weird creepy feeling just from reading that section of the book. Much like in the story of Ichabod Crane in the Legend of Sleepy Hollow where the character is riding home late at night and gets chased by something unnatural.
This was something I have always wondered about. It is talked about some in Fellowship of the Ring book, but not fully explained.
Thank you! I have been looking over Tolkien sites for info on the Barrow Downs burial sites. Yours is great!!
I have read the books but find Tolkien often gets off track and never quite is back explaining stuff coherently, and you stay on the subject... task much better!! Again My compliments.
Thanks for the video. I’m researching Bree and the Barrowdowns as a location for a MERP campaign. Weathertop adjacent is also good. I didn’t realise the Witch King had been there before the hobbits passed through. I’d like to know more about this are. Great video.
DUDE, your vids ROCK but today the music really took me there!! To middle earth, into the Barrow Downs!! Into the dark creepy past!!!
Great job bro, as ALWAYS!
Yay! This is the region I voted for!!
Thanks Yostan. Another informative video. Keep them coming my friend.:}
Thanks for posting this, Yoystan! The Barrow Downs were always one of my favorite places in Middle Earth.
A very extremely great video as always Men of the West.
this is incredible. great visuals. I've never seen some of these pictures. Very cool. Thanks!
I think this will be a great video love your work we will stand men of the west hopefully you aren’t affected by the “Mordor fires” I live in Canada campbell River and it is smoking here!! Crazy anyways you make my day and make me understand so much more from these books anyways have a good day Mellon (friend)
Thank you, my friend! Stay safe!
Men of the West also if the witch died and Sauron died wouldn’t minas morgul become minas ithil again because of the black magic would be gone what do you think
Thanks for another great video, keep them coming 😀
Loved it bro. I haven't watched your videos in a while and now I'm gona binge watch everything I've missed lol! Thank you and stay safe🤙
loved the video. thought it was incredible
Great work once again, Yusten.
Thank you so much for this! The Barrows have always intrigued me. And facts about that area was fragmented @ best! As far as I know, this was quite thorough!
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And now I can't wait to hear all about high DwarfLords of old!
Of any location in Middle Earth the Barrow-Downs has always fascinated me the most.
Awesome video, as always. I can't wait for next week's video about the dwarves.
An interesting video this is
A great video. These kind of topics are the best IMO. They are briefly touched in the books but have a long history and stories behind them.
When I first read the hobbit as a 12 year old my stranger danger alarm was going off when I read the part with Tom and his wife lady.
Oh how I’ve missed you old friend. This was a fantastic video and one of my favorite parts of the Fellowship of the Ring.
I am obsessed with your videos!!! Can you make a video about the grey havens.
Thankyou sooooo much for all your videos. They are very informative & just a pleasure to watch. As a narrator... You Nailed It!!! Listening to your voice really makes the videos as well as the illustration's!!! "BRAVO" Keep them coming please!!! 😀😀😀
Brilliant idea for a video. I enjoyed this one immensely 🤘🤩
I remember the first time I ever experienced the Barrow Downs. It was in the lord of the rings fellowship video game 🎮 that came out in the early 2000s. Man the Barrow Down level freaked me out when I was a kid. Lol 😆 However it was nice to see Tom Bombadil vanquish the zombies. Also great video dude!!! 😁👍🏼
This was my favorite level in LOTR War of the North.
Great episode honestly didn’t know much on this one so very interesting
Great video and great channel
You should have posted this video on Halloween🤣
Great video. The barrow downs are my favorite creepy place in middle earth.
Awesome
Nice use of LOTRO screen shots, I have find memories of my first entry to the Dwons and how atmospheric it was, and still is:-)
Watching this on October 1st--getting ready for Halloween :D
Good tale, thank you!
Well done sir!
AMAZING EPISODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great video as always Yoystan.
Hey can you do a video about what if Fatty Bolger went with the other members of the conspiracy?
Thank you
Dunland would be a great region video. Also Rhûn too.
I live on a hill called Burrow Down next to the hills of the south South downs in the uk😆 There is also a street a few miles down the road named after Tolkien.
Could you do Feanor vs Fingolfin?
I’ve always wished for a What if Arnor won theory
Dammit. This was not in the movies or the extended parts of the movies. But we did get the ghosts that helped arigorn in pelinor fields.
About a month too soon; however, since Halloween candy is already on the store shelves, perhaps not. Brilliant video, as always. Thank you.
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this is great
I just ordered a new blu-ray player and all the extended versions of the trilogies ... I pray that my tv isn't too old to use... Its at least 6-8 years old and not "smart". But it would be nice if I can play your RUclips videos through the blu-ray... Ill be up for days!! I must say that I know nothing about the Barrow Downs..thanks for getting me interested!
My television outclasses your's through pure age at a whopping twelve years your TV's senior.
@@angelsfallfirst7348 I still can't get these videos to play!!! The 2nd and 3rd of the HOBBIT play but the first still won't play no matter what Blu-Ray player I use Then my new gift boxed set of LOTR will not play !! The intros p!at but the movies won't. I'm coming apart at the seams over this. I've returned 3 Hobbit UNEXPECTED JOURNEYS and no relief! This is the second Blu-Ray player ...it WORKS in my neighbors machine but not mine. I've decided that I need a different player...what would you suggest??? I'm in tears at this point and my grandson has lost faith in me. He's dressed as THORIN for Halloween this year. That's how much he adores this story. I'm A failure at this point.
Dwarf vid next week? I'm excited
I have always been attracted to the smaller things in the stories. While I do indeed enjoy the more epic stories such as morgoth the maiyar, the war of the ring (i apologise if I have mispelled their name) but i have always liked things such as, laketown, goblin town, and the barrow wights, or things we don't exactly know everything about like, rhun, the haraadrim, or the corsairs
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Great video. I have been wondering lately who was the most powerful member of the Noldor in Middle Earth in the second and third age. I guess Galadriel is but then I considered that Meglor was still said to be walking the shores. Is Meglor comparable in ability and knowledge to Gadadriel? Or are there indeed other members of the Noldor I am forgetting?
Can you please do a video for the histories of the Argonauth and weathertop?
Maan oh maan, The barrow_wight that kidnapped our three hobbits was creepy, and as you said it was likely originally the last nûmenorian prince of cardolan which makes it even creepier.also, the book frodo was really awesome by battling the wight. and another thing that makes this tale interesting is the fact that this is a kind of magic that was created by man, since the witch king was originally a man. oh god the nazgul are terrifying
I know the explanation for why Pippin’s dagger could wound the Witch King is that the men of Arnor fought against Angmar for so long they eventually found a way, but my question is...how?
How did the smiths who forged the daggers know how to fight the Nazgul? How could they possibly find this out, much less have them be effective enough on the Dark Lord’s servants to actually work?
And if they did find a way, how come no one else found the secret either and only these blades can do it?
The quote about the Witch-king mentions: "No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will."
To me, this merely says the Barrow-blade HURTS them much more - not that they are the only type of blade to harm the Nazgul (I think any blade could indeed cause pain - just none more than these).
People interpret the 'spell' as supernatural - as if the blade somehow made the WK mortal. I interpret it differently... to simplify the sentence:
'...breaking the hold that knit his body to his will' So imo, all that is happening is the WK being immobilised by immense pain. He has no control over his body - as would many people when in pain. If you got shot in the leg, you wouldn't be able to continue to do what you were doing - you would be shocked, and in agony - with little control over yourself (in other words, breaking the 'spell' that knits your body to your will).
So to answer your question, I don't think they knew a special way to beat the Nazgul - but merely designed a weapon to hurt a bunch (I doubt they were made specifically for Nazgul combat, but combat in general - as standard enemies were attacking Cardolan for the most part).
Can somebody please help me out here with something?
What does *"Tinc-gleina, brassen innas, minai na-balch!"* mean in the Black Speech in Tolkien's Legendarium, how's each word pronounced, and what's the English translation of the sentence?
I'd be very grateful for any help.
They need to do a mini series of middle earth and it's history.
Planting yourself between Huorns & Barrow-wights. That's one sure-fire way to deter visitors 😉. Better than a KEEP OUT sign.
Yes
I wondered how the reclaiming of Arnor by Aragorn Elessar changed and improved the Barrow Downs? Would the graves be at rest with Angmar defeated and the Witchking destroyed.
I'd like to think it was made a sacred place again, whether the wights had to be slain or not. It was a sacred place, and the Dunedain are a learned people. I find it hard to believe Aragorn would vacation near lake evendim unless he was able to make good progress on Arnor's restoration.
Finally, a Tolkien enthusiast who pronounces it “E-Dine” and not “E-Dane”. Bravo sir.
A question for you, did the edain of beleriand have much contact with the middle men during the first age? For instance did they trade with eachother etc.
one day I hope the Angmar conflict makes it onto the big or small screen
TY
I am in agreement with you. I found the Barrow Downs and their inhabitants very sad, because they were used for evil for evils sake. I, too, hoped the King would cleanse the downs and return the accursed to their restful eternal slumber.
What about a video on the Evenstar itself?! Please
you should do a theory on what if Maeglin from the silmarillion stayed good and loyal
anyway love the videos
Can you do a video on Bellakar next please
I'm curious to know what you think about the theory that Tom bombadil is the incarnation of the music of the ainur. I think it's a pretty compelling theory.
A question I have asked before, but no one has answered with any proof from Tolkien, but where did most of the Dunedain live in Arnor just before the War of the Ring? Some people have said the Angle, but it seems too close to the Ettenmoors, even though it is near Rivendell. I would have always thought that the women and children would have been in villages to the West of the Shire, close to Lindon.
The one thing I question about your video is where did you get the information that Cardolan's capital was on the Barrow Downs and not in Tharbad? I know it was said in the tale of years that the men of Cardolan fortified the downs against Angmar, but not that their Capital was there.
Thanks.
Barrow downs are my favorite region
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I still would like to know a what if scenario if smaug steals and wears the one ring, if he'll change like golum
And what if he then ate Sauron.
@@nmarbletoe8210 Smaug could either be sauron's new vessel, or absorb the dark lord's powers.
Theory idea: what if the fellowship didn't split up