The future of VW campers? We drive the fully electric ID Buzz and ID Buzz Cargo

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @livingworkingoutsidebox
    @livingworkingoutsidebox 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for sharing would have loved to see the passenger seating and interior.
    They really did a good job on paying homage to a classic VW design while creating it's own uniquely modern look.

  • @Brian-ug3cy
    @Brian-ug3cy 2 года назад

    This is ideal for the 15 minutes city. Camping in a nearby park within your sector. The future is bright and the future is lime 💚

  • @jamiep61
    @jamiep61 2 года назад +2

    I enjoyed watching the Video. A very good looking Vehicle

  • @keithwelton
    @keithwelton 2 года назад +4

    £62,000 plus the conversion cost!
    You would have to be an avid VW fanboy to pay that much. With the current recession I doubt many will be making the switch to this electric van.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +1

      There's no shortage of buyers for Teslas, so, with its gorgeous retro looks, I think VW will have a hit on its hands. EV campervans aren't going to be cheap, though - at least £85k, probably for an ID Buzz conversion but there are more expensive diesel T6.1 Transporters...

    • @keithwelton
      @keithwelton 2 года назад +2

      @@MotorhomeCampervan Tesla already has surplus unsold cars and that is before the recession bites. Plenty of dealers pointing out that the caravan/ campervan market boom has ended.
      “Investors Fret as Tesla Stacks Up Unsold Cars”

  • @jonpetter8921
    @jonpetter8921 2 года назад

    The ID Buzz will be a success for sure

  • @richardjohnson5529
    @richardjohnson5529 2 года назад +1

    i think the orange and whit looks the best

  • @CustomiZe_
    @CustomiZe_ 2 года назад +2

    I'm glad they got rid of the grey tyres like I saw on the prototype it made it look like a kids toy.

  • @snazzy5844
    @snazzy5844 2 года назад +1

    I can't work out why reviewers keep comparing this to a Transporter when it's clearly more similar in size to the longer Caddy. It's a small van, not a medium one.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +1

      Yes, but, in the camper market, it's the T6.1 that matters, not the Caddy. With the ID Buzz echoing the styling of classic campers, folk will want camper versions. Even VW has confirmed a California version.

  • @_bav
    @_bav 2 года назад +1

    The design of the Buzz is certainly growing me - initially, I judged it a little bottom-heavy (like Barbapapa or a Weeble) - though I think we'll have to wait for the LWB version before we have a viable base for a camper.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      Love the Barbapapa analogy!

    • @_bav
      @_bav 2 года назад

      @@MotorhomeCampervan A reference for those of a certain age 😉

  • @ghunt9146
    @ghunt9146 2 года назад

    It's certainly got the look. Once the converters put all the kit in it there won't be much payload left? The extra weight will depleat the range as well. Hope they can make a success of it as a camper, it'll sell well in basic form anyway.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      I'd be more concerned about payload than depleted range. It's only going to be a basic two-berth unless they can improve the former. But the LWB 7-seater will need more payload, so maybe VW still has some answers.

  • @karlospappy8908
    @karlospappy8908 2 года назад

    Nice one Peter, not the best of days for filming but for the first time an EV has turned my head, but the price is frightening. I would expect at today's prices a Cali version would be well north of 100k. Cheers K.

    • @garvintimmann
      @garvintimmann 2 года назад

      Karlos, I am just going to reach into my left pocket and pull out £60,000 for the VW, then reach in the right pocket pay a conversion to motor-home, road tax, insurance, MOT. Buy a house with a large long back garden, to put a solar array to charge a large scale battery array, then find out that in UK there is no sunlight 98% of the time, after spending a million pounds. But the EV does look good, despite being too small to convert to a motor-home.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +1

      I wonder what the Cali will look like? I hope it's more camper than the Caddy California. If it's more like a shrunken T6.1 Cali, it's sure to be close to £100k - maybe more with all the toys. That will cut out a lot of buyers.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      Hey, the UK weather isn't that bad and you get some solar power even if it's not a cloudless blue sky!

  • @Deepthought-42
    @Deepthought-42 2 года назад +2

    12.50 Switches and buttons every time for me. Try using a touch screen with wet hands, gloves or if you have a plaster on you finger.
    How much does its range reduce if you want to camp off grid in the depths of winter in below freezing conditions?
    Not for me I’m afraid, especially with increased electricity prices for charging.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +1

      Agree. Bring back buttons. You can't use your phone legally while driving but a touchscreen is OK to change the radio station... Daft.

  • @garvintimmann
    @garvintimmann 2 года назад +2

    Peter Vaughan is the best for motorhome. As a Cargo or passenger, too small, 250 miles is not great when there is zero weight. My Vauxhall Vivaro cost 10% of that ID Buzz. The kitchen took all of my strength to fit, the storage took 2 people to lift in, then the Rock,n,Roll bed took 2 people to carry in. I'm sorry but that will drive 100 miles on that load, but cannot fit it.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      Having tried Wheelhome's electric Vikenze III-e, I don't think the conversion will have a huge effect on range - I was able to beat Vauxhall's claim for the base vehicle with the converted camper. However, cost and payload are issues.

  • @VAN360TV
    @VAN360TV 2 года назад

    Hey guys, what do you think of a classic vw bus with an emission-free drive? Really appreciate the opinions on that. All the best from Rostock in Germany. :)

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +1

      Not sure. Classic vehicles usually cover a very low annual mileage and the impact on the environment happened long ago. Classic cars have been shown to have a lower CO2 output per annum than a laptop... So, why convert?

    • @DoubleOSeven007
      @DoubleOSeven007 2 года назад

      You have to drive 50,000 miles before EVs overtake petrols in terms of the environmental damage. Because manufacturing and shipping the battery components is go intensive. Hire a classic.

  • @peakproofuk
    @peakproofuk 2 года назад

    I thought, after watching a lot of ID Buzz videos, this would finally be the one to tell me if the bulk head unbolts. :-(

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +1

      I asked VW and they say "it comes as standard factory fit so from our perspective it wouldn’t be removed - however, I imagine as per most bulk heads, converters would probably be able to remove it."

    • @peakproofuk
      @peakproofuk 2 года назад

      @@MotorhomeCampervan thanks for the reply. Appreciated.

  • @aevorozco
    @aevorozco 2 года назад

    Beautiful but the range is too short. They should have made the range longer like above 300 miles. For its size, VW could have increased the battery size to increase the range. The longer the range the less time is spent charging the vehicle, especially during road trips.

  • @Dubnoreix
    @Dubnoreix 2 года назад

    A START ENGINE STOP button? In an electric car? Who thought that would go unnoticed?

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      In the electric Vauxhall we tested you still need a key to start.

    • @Dubnoreix
      @Dubnoreix 2 года назад

      @@MotorhomeCampervan, I don’t really mind using a key, but an electric vehicle doesn’t have an engine to start or stop, it’s got a motor. They could have just left out the ENGINE part and they could use it for all types of cars.

  • @TheEleatic
    @TheEleatic Год назад

    I think we are at the early stage of EV engineering, but in just a few more years all the manufacturers will commit and produce great vehicles.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  Год назад +1

      There's still some way to go on range and cost but the biggest challenge might be the infrastructure.

  • @richardjohnson5529
    @richardjohnson5529 2 года назад +1

    i am glad you say its animal cruelty Free interior.

  • @stuarthall2523
    @stuarthall2523 2 года назад +11

    The cost of producing the batteries, charging them and now paying road tax. I'll stick with deisel thank you

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +3

      But from 2030, you won't be able to buy new diesels...

    • @travelling_stephen
      @travelling_stephen 2 года назад +3

      @@MotorhomeCampervan but a Hybrid diesel will be available will it not.

    • @garvintimmann
      @garvintimmann 2 года назад +7

      @@travelling_stephen I am sure there is no way that diesel will be stopped. How will lorries and vans carry cargo, when every 50 miles you stop for a 4 hour charge?

    • @TheIrishMegaphone
      @TheIrishMegaphone 2 года назад +6

      @@MotorhomeCampervan Isn’t totalitarianism great!

    • @_bav
      @_bav 2 года назад +1

      @@garvintimmann That approach would seem to align very well with the current government's intent to crush the UK economy.

  • @richardjohnson5529
    @richardjohnson5529 2 года назад

    VW should have placed the charging port under the front badge

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      Wouldn't that spoil the looks when charging?

    • @richardjohnson5529
      @richardjohnson5529 2 года назад

      @@MotorhomeCampervan I dont think so it's much more convenient and easy to charge when the charging port is at the front of the vehicle

  • @travelling_stephen
    @travelling_stephen 2 года назад +2

    It will be interesting to see this in a camper version. It will be competition for the Nissan ev van that Sussex camper van conversions use. I hope I got their name correct.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +1

      Nissan have stopped selling the e-NV200 van here, so it's probably ID Buzz or electric Vauxhall Vivaro/Citroën Dispatch etc for the time being if you want an EV camper

  • @tonysutton6559
    @tonysutton6559 2 года назад

    They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I'm sorry but this beholder thinks that it looks ugly and nothing at all like the original T1 or T2. Add to that the fact that it is horrendously expensive as a base vehicle, will probably have another £25,000 conversion costs added and be full of compromises (who wants to be hauling seats about last thing at night and first thing in the morning to make/unmake the bed or use a porta potti in the kitchen). Then, although it is not VW's fault, to add insult to injury the government is going to be charge VED on electric vehicles from 2025.
    I'm glad that you mentioned a few of the downsides of touch screens. I'm amazed that vehicles that are so dependent on them are legal because they are as distracting as playing with a mobile phone while driving and nowhere near as safe as well positioned, dedicated buttons and switches.
    Im sure that the underlying vehicle is top quality but the rest of the concept seems to have been thrown together to make something "different" because they can, not because it's better.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      All the motor manufacturers have been forced to go down the EV route, causing huge change in a short time period - at least ID Buzz has some personality, unlike most EV blobs. And, as far the idiocy of touchscreens to control air-con, etc, please don't get me started - I could rant for hours...

  • @journeysinourvan161
    @journeysinourvan161 2 года назад

    A lovely vehicle but range, payload and cost are still my concerns with an electric camper.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +1

      Range will get better as the battery tech improves but I think they'll always be a dearer option - while we have the choice!

  • @Wagons-Rule
    @Wagons-Rule 2 года назад +1

    £62k. No. Just have a good imagination with what you could do with that money. A car for those who have.

  • @stevezodiac491
    @stevezodiac491 2 года назад

    295 miles range lol. That is city driving in the summer. The really important figure is motorway range real world and that is145 miles in the winter and 180 miles in the summer, battery full to empty, which you can't do because you risk being stranded at a none working rapid charger. You need to retain at least 15 miles reserve and that now brings the range down to 130 miles to 165 miles. As for the van itself it is built on an id3 platform, a car and that is why the van is so small. As for the price £57000 odd and you don't even get two tone paint for that on the base life model taking it over £60k. So in summary, if you want a very small, short range and exorbitantly priced van, the id buzz is the van for you. As well as this' battery life channel ' has had an id3 for two years and the battery capacity and range has dropped by 10% in 2 years, like sand in an hour glass. Sorry my van is much bigger, diesel, much much cheaper and has a range of over 600 miles and always will and can be refuelled to full in 5 minutes, just what is required to make a real world useable camper van that can be used in the most remote parts of the country, if required.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      I agree with much of what you say - I won't be changing my diesel T6 any time soon. BUT look at the number of Teslas sold - some folk want to go electric now and this is the best option for campervans yet.

    • @Ben36363
      @Ben36363 Год назад

      You're incorrect about the miles it drops especially in the winter but not that much.

  • @Rottingboards
    @Rottingboards 2 года назад

    Ummmm, where is the USA one? I need one next to my yellow beetle.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      The ID Buzz is coming to the USA in long wheelbase form, in 2024, I think

  • @glennkennedy441
    @glennkennedy441 2 года назад

    There should be round headlights !!!!

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +1

      Yes, probably! But it's a better retro-reboot than the Beetle!

  • @richardjohnson5529
    @richardjohnson5529 2 года назад +1

    i have seen the Vauxhall Vivaro as a campervan with a 75kw battery and it only has a range of 150 miles which is not that great.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +1

      Vauxhall claims 143 miles with the 50kWh battery, 205 miles for the 75kWh version

    • @_bav
      @_bav 2 года назад +2

      @@MotorhomeCampervan 205 miles claimed range = 150 miles real-world range 🤣

  • @jonmortermusic
    @jonmortermusic 2 года назад

    It doesn’t look a patch on a T6.1

  • @DaveP668
    @DaveP668 2 года назад +1

    Rather than a dewy eyed "isn't it all so wonderful review" (because its a VW), at least some comment on what isn't so good for some balance.
    21 inch wheels with rubber band tyres. Does it have a spare for the inevitable puncture?
    Touchscreen for all controls is always a faff
    stuck on dash screens should be confined to history, get them incorporated into the dash.
    Biggie for me is, just like the ID3, the RHD model still has LHD wipers.

    • @_bav
      @_bav 2 года назад

      Agree re touch-screens and LHD wipers.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      The wipers aren't LHD, they are 'clap hands' so work equally well for RHD or LHD.
      And I did point out the downsides of the touchscreen, range, size, etc, so not too "dewy eyed" surely?

  • @richardjohnson5529
    @richardjohnson5529 2 года назад +1

    will the caravan camping club install EV charging?

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад +2

      Let's see. I think the Caravan & Motorhome Club has some sites with EV charge points

  • @richardjohnson5529
    @richardjohnson5529 2 года назад

    yes but that range is on an empty van isnt it?

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      Range is only a handful of miles less for the passenger carrying version. How you drive will make a much bigger difference

  • @daveheath6297
    @daveheath6297 2 года назад

    Isn’t it a thing of beauty

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      I think so, but it seems (from comments here) that not everyone agrees!

  • @agibsonallan
    @agibsonallan Год назад

    207 miles until you put the heater lights and demister on will be useless as a camper

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  Год назад

      Useless is perhaps a tad strong but certainly no replacement for a diesel T6.1, unless you absolutely must have an EV

  • @DoubleOSeven007
    @DoubleOSeven007 2 года назад

    So long as your campsite / destination is within 75 miles of your home you’ll be fine 🙄 you might just make it back before it runs out of energy. So that trip to Devon/Cornwall ain’t happening because all the public highway chargers are broken, over subscribed or just generally very expensive. Mind you if you’re going to lay down 70k on one of these or even lease one, you’ve got more money than sense. Hire one if you want to try it. No point having a camper sat on your drive for 50 weeks of the year doing nothing.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      Or drive 150 miles and recharge on your campsite, if you want to avoid the public charging network?
      As for having a camper on your drive 50 weeks of the year doing nothing - why? Our (VW T6) camper is the best family car we've ever had, is in use for commuting, shopping, etc, every week (virtually every day) and used for many, many cheap weekends away, not just our summer hols. Plus its depreciation is glacial compared with an SUV.

  • @saramark4622
    @saramark4622 2 года назад +1

    EV's are definitely the future. I drive a Nissan LEAF and it has been totally reliable 100% of the time. It only has a 30kwh battery and a maximum range of 140 miles round town, but for me, that is plenty. I would like to see the Maxus deliver 3 & 9 get a good conversion kit. Cheaper, bigger batteries and more spacious than the Buzz, so it would be a proper camper, not just a day vehicle. Everything in it would have to be electric, so no gas at all for cooking or heating. Stick some big solar panels on top, along with your hook up for infinite on site power, or good wild camping ability.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      Have seen our review of the Wheelhome Vikenze III-e? It's only tiny but shows how to do an EV camper with great solar, lithium batteries, inverter capacity, etc - no gas at all.

    • @TheIrishMegaphone
      @TheIrishMegaphone 2 года назад +3

      There is a place for EVs - But the idea that they will replace the internal combustion engine is utter fantasy.

    • @saramark4622
      @saramark4622 2 года назад +1

      @@TheIrishMegaphone look at new car sales. The diesel is already dead. Long live the EV

    • @Deepthought-42
      @Deepthought-42 2 года назад

      So much just range will it have if you go off grid camping in freezing conditions in winter?

    • @_bav
      @_bav 2 года назад +2

      @@saramark4622 People are being coerced and (up until yesterday's Autumn Statement) bribed to go EV - hence the take-up of such vehicles.
      Given the ongoing ludicrous pricing of EVs, the withdrawal of government subsidies, the introduction of EV car tax and the recent huge increases in charging rates, the financial argument to go electric no longer stacks up (if it ever did). Add to that the impending recession (depression?) and the fact that early adopters and the eco-gullibles have already converted, the jury is out as to whether coercion alone will sustain that rate of take-up.

  • @garenkarapetian709
    @garenkarapetian709 Год назад

    Buzz by name, Buzzkill in reality. At whopping £60K and such a small cargo loading volume, even Vivaro-E is a better value. For the price, and for the similar length, one might as well go with SWB Ducato/Boxer/Relay/Movano (you'll get a much smaller turning circle too)

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  Год назад

      It's the styling that's key versus Vivaro-E - and that's still smaller than a T6 inside. Agree that a Ducato makes a better camper but the SWB has been discontinued now

    • @Ben36363
      @Ben36363 Год назад

      You should expect to pay more, it's VW

  • @thenoworriesnomad
    @thenoworriesnomad 2 года назад +2

    LOL...Oh dear..VW is dead, Long Live The VW

    • @VAN360TV
      @VAN360TV 2 года назад

      Longer live the classic VW.. ;)

  • @rollintrollope156
    @rollintrollope156 2 года назад

    𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙢𝙤𝙨𝙢 🙋

  • @hedleythorne
    @hedleythorne 2 года назад

    Nice, but you really pay for it.

  • @spelterworkstiger
    @spelterworkstiger 9 месяцев назад

    When are Folk going to accept ELECTRIC ANYTHING is a joke.
    Fine for short journeys but it's 475 mile from my house to Coverack in Cornwall and I do it in 10 hours using my diesel seat having 2 stops for a cuppa.
    How long with a fully loaded Electric and how many stops for charging.
    ITS A JOKE

  • @venusflytrap909
    @venusflytrap909 2 года назад +1

    Quite simply there is no future for electric vehicles in any format........definitely not for off grid or long remote trips.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      At the moment, governments (not just UK) aren't going to give us any choice

  • @johncowper3470
    @johncowper3470 Год назад

    Stick to Fossil Fuels and Condemn the Planet . What a great idea. 👎👎👎👎

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  Год назад

      I'm not sure whether you're pro-EV or pro-petrol/diesel? This is an unbiased review of an electric vehicle but there are still plenty of arguments for the internal combustion engine, not least some of the aspects of battery production (lithium mining, etc).

  • @thegrinch8161
    @thegrinch8161 2 года назад

    I’d imagine that more than a few older 21 yr olds again will balk at the id buzz myself included. For me the whole idea of a campervan/ motor home holiday is taking everything with you and anyone who says they haven’t forgotten anything is a liar, myself included. Mine always is to fill the fuel tank

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      Filling the fuel tank becomes charge overnight before you go...

  • @alessandroforti6544
    @alessandroforti6544 2 года назад

    Ugly design.

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  2 года назад

      Looks are always subjective. My wife thinks I look good!

  • @justinlinnane8043
    @justinlinnane8043 Год назад

    The cult of VW campers has to be one of biggest cons in the automotive world . I Just cannot believe the prices people will pay for these tiny little pokey vans in their classic form and it gets even more ridiculous for the new ones . I was parked up next to a poor guy in a fully specced california a few weeks ago . It was raining and he was stuck inside his tiny ittle box on wheels (that cost him over £150 K !!!!! )looking miseerable 😂😂😂

    • @MotorhomeCampervan
      @MotorhomeCampervan  Год назад

      All depends what you want. My VW T6 is a great daily driver and weekend camper, plus 2 weeks in the summer with the kids. I wouldn't swap it for something bigger that wouldn't fit where we want to go.
      And Californias start at under £80k and can't reach anywhere near £150k even if you tick every option.
      But they won't suit everyone...