Based on what I've read and seen on various sourced (GTA Forums, YT), Shoreside Vale development is quite rushed. That is why we see things like non-solid hills and observatory. Perhaps the developers intended to put in a small countryside behind the tunnel, but plans were abandoned bcos they had to meet the deadline of finishing and/or releasing GTA 3.
Yep. There was a lot of stuff planned for GTA 3 but i guess we weren't lucky to have all of it complete in the game. Leaves much to wonder, doesn't it.
Rockstar have stated the tunnel was put there to make Liberty City seem bigger than it actually is. Every city has a point in which you can leave it. They decided to have a fake exit to achieve this.
@@Fireglo but if you look at the minimap you see how the road of both tunnels continues straight to the end of the map, when in reality looking at the tunnels it seems that they go to the right / left.
In LCS its open. Just leads to the other entrance on the otherside of shoreside. There is a blocked off area inside though that has a sign saying To Upstate. I remember the first time I played LCS after knowing these tunnels were originally blocked in 3. I thought all the mysteries were about to be solved lol...
Well my explanation. The tunnel is in upstate Liberty. The ghost town is too in upstate Liberty. As we can hear in lips 106 radio. We can notice that the carcer city (manhunt 1 city. Manhunt is released by Rockstar games) is actually close so it might be from where this might be the tunnel to carcer city. But obviously they were not going to make that city. But obviously these tunnels are made like they are heading to carcer city
@@GTAMystereez one more thing. In lips 106 radio. The host says about someone named Gary scharf. He is a corrupt police officer (in radio this is said, he was a corrupt police officer in manhunt too). As she says that. '. In the near carcer city Gary scharf.... I don't remember more words but this can be listened
Well I think there must have been a plan to add the ghost town in the map and maybe connect it via this tunnel because as you showed , it's still under construction , it means it was under development but it was abandoned for some reason idk why It would have been a better ending if Claude had killed Catalina in the ghost town
In GTA LCS it was revealed that the two tunnels that were blocked off in 3 are connected, however there is a road between them that is blocked off with a sign that says "Upstate" confirming that there's still an unseen area out there. My guess is it leads to a whole other district where "Ghost Town" and the Liberty City Bank is located.
Play GTA Liberty City Stories, you'll see the tunnel is open and the two entrances connect exactly like you showed on your video. There is, in LCS, an exit in the middle of the tunnel going towards where the ghost town would be in GTA 3 that is under construction
The reason why it got under construction is because in lcs there is a mission called 'bringing the house down' here is the biggest explosion in gta history maybe thats what destroyed it.
Yeah that's why the hospital (which is just near the tunnel and the destroyed sights )didn't get destroyed but the tunnel which is on the other side of the next island got destroyed and also nothing happened to the ceadar grove 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
I think there was a mod that connects a tunnel to the ghost town? I'm not so sure anymore which tunnel it was since it's been ages since I've used that mod. Thanks for exploring by the way.
This tunnel is in gta Lcs connecting Cochrane dam to Cedar Grove. This tunnel connect Liberty city to Upstate liberty but we can't access to Upstate Liberty.
It's not under construction. You can see where it leads in LCS. You can enter it and exit through the other entrance, they're connected, and inside there's a turn which is also blocked off, probably leading to the ghost town where the Liberty City bank is.
the tunnel leads to upstate liberty. The story happens in the city only, so upstate liberty isn’t needed in the story so thats the reason why the tunnel is blocked.
I always wondered what happened to this tunnel in gta 3 because in gta lcs which takes place 3 years before it was accesible maybe some explosion occured between those years
i know how to go to carcer city and ghost town if the tunnel was open to upstate that time ghost town will change its name to carcer city and get bigger and remove the void until j* made a mod for it
4:08 u mentioned the tunnel is connecting to the ghost town nope if u played gta liberty city stories The Tunnel is completed but there is another tunnel there called Upstate that maybe the path that leads to ghost town.
@@GTAMystereez Yeah, it is. You're welcome. And, it's stranege that at the same time, Carcer City has old police cars similar to 1980s police cars from Vice City games while Liberty City has late 1990s-2000s police cars. 🤨🤔
No one thought that in LCS tbe tunnel was partially complete, since the entire tunnel in that time were not totally cemented, compared to that in GTAIII. I assume that the tunnel in GTAIII were closed to complete the tunnel by cementing, and maybe to include finishing cement also in Upstate part.
Apperantly Rockstar was supposed to add a 4th island but they didnt had time to add more missions and the 4th island was not finnished which resulting in the ghost town
Does anyone know what the program in game code is for the Shoreside Vale tunnel? I want to take away the invisible barrier in GTA Underground as there's IPL files of a highway that starts inside that tunnel but I can't access it because the original tunnel files is still in place so the is not accessible
In contrast to GTA: Vice City, to me, I always firmly believe that those tunnels would serve to give me at least a measurable amount of feasibility of: "How the folks of Liberty City escape the city proper by car towards to other parts of the USA, and people from outside Liberty City enter the city proper by car." Whereas Vice City is pretty much an island city (Like probably a few kilometers off the coast of Florida?), which is probably the only thing I don't like about GTA: Vice City.
Guys I have a hypothesis about that. After Claud and Catalina robbed the bank, Catalina tried to kill her boyfriend but it seems she didn't well. So she decided to instruct her band to end up this. But the band was stupid and just couldn't do that, they was planning to kill Claud when he was in the tunnel using tnt. Well it doesn't seem to be worked and next try was on Callahan bridge but with other band where gta 3 starts.
I thought the "ghost" town was just the setting of the intro cinematic. You can also reach it using a dodo. Pretty sure they put it there on purpose as an easter egg.
@Ivoireee I'm not really an expert of game programming, but couldn't they just have put it in a different file and load it only during the cutscene, while keeping it separated from the actual world of the game?
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The shortsidevile tunnel takes you to ghost town
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Based on what I've read and seen on various sourced (GTA Forums, YT), Shoreside Vale development is quite rushed. That is why we see things like non-solid hills and observatory. Perhaps the developers intended to put in a small countryside behind the tunnel, but plans were abandoned bcos they had to meet the deadline of finishing and/or releasing GTA 3.
Maybe... We will never know 😕
Yep. There was a lot of stuff planned for GTA 3 but i guess we weren't lucky to have all of it complete in the game. Leaves much to wonder, doesn't it.
Rockstar have stated the tunnel was put there to make Liberty City seem bigger than it actually is. Every city has a point in which you can leave it. They decided to have a fake exit to achieve this.
@@Fireglo why rockstar dont do this anymore?
@@Fireglo but if you look at the minimap you see how the road of both tunnels continues straight to the end of the map, when in reality looking at the tunnels it seems that they go to the right / left.
In LCS its open. Just leads to the other entrance on the otherside of shoreside. There is a blocked off area inside though that has a sign saying To Upstate. I remember the first time I played LCS after knowing these tunnels were originally blocked in 3. I thought all the mysteries were about to be solved lol...
The tunnel will remain a mystery forever... 😳
Nice to know, thanks
@@GTAMystereez try using the ghost glitch to go inside the tunnel
Ive already tried it It didn't work i just Fell through due to the collision free floor
@@GTAMystereezit’s not a mystery, it’s just nothing, the upstate was never developed
This tunnel was under construction for 19 years and its still not finished lmao
Haha yes, they are still making it to this day 😂
@@GTAMystereez This tunnel in 1998 years liberty city stories was open, I think this tunnel was collapse
@@scottsun7941 very plausible
Well my explanation. The tunnel is in upstate Liberty. The ghost town is too in upstate Liberty. As we can hear in lips 106 radio. We can notice that the carcer city (manhunt 1 city. Manhunt is released by Rockstar games) is actually close so it might be from where this might be the tunnel to carcer city. But obviously they were not going to make that city. But obviously these tunnels are made like they are heading to carcer city
That's a good theory! Thanks for watching 😁
@@GTAMystereez one more thing. In lips 106 radio. The host says about someone named Gary scharf. He is a corrupt police officer (in radio this is said, he was a corrupt police officer in manhunt too). As she says that. '. In the near carcer city Gary scharf.... I don't remember more words but this can be listened
Well I think there must have been a plan to add the ghost town in the map and maybe connect it via this tunnel because as you showed , it's still under construction , it means it was under development but it was abandoned for some reason idk why
It would have been a better ending if Claude had killed Catalina in the ghost town
Lmao, imagine if game developers put up in game “under construction” signs while developing out a section of a map. 😂
The Shoreside Tunnel has a road to Carcer City from game Manhunt.
If only...
@@GTAMystereez what "if only"
@@RandomProfilePicture if only it was the true
@@SensPiotr I think he means lore wise it does.
i think it will leads to vice city but rockstar decided to make one
In GTA LCS it was revealed that the two tunnels that were blocked off in 3 are connected, however there is a road between them that is blocked off with a sign that says "Upstate" confirming that there's still an unseen area out there. My guess is it leads to a whole other district where "Ghost Town" and the Liberty City Bank is located.
I think there's a mission in LCS where you need to plant a few bombs, i assume that the tunnel is closed due to major repairs from the bombs.
Ghost town is for the opening scene of gta3
@@maurizza3499 Those bombs are planted under the construction site in GTA 3, they are not on the same island as these tunnels.
Yes
It takes you to 'Carcer City'
This is just a rumour, but it's one which kinda makes sense... 🤔
Play GTA Liberty City Stories, you'll see the tunnel is open and the two entrances connect exactly like you showed on your video. There is, in LCS, an exit in the middle of the tunnel going towards where the ghost town would be in GTA 3 that is under construction
I played it, I remember going into that tunnel, it was super exciting!
It took years for the tunnel construction to be completed
@@blacknight88 But Gta LCS takes place in 1998 and GTA 3 in 2001
@@Professional_N0ob yes, but in 2001 it's presumed that the tunnels were being re-renovated or something
Bro forgot Carcer City
The ghost repreants the bank from the cutscene of claude and catalina robbing
Yeah
The reason why it got under construction is because in lcs there is a mission called 'bringing the house down' here is the biggest explosion in gta history maybe thats what destroyed it.
Yeah that's why the hospital (which is just near the tunnel and the destroyed sights )didn't get destroyed but the tunnel which is on the other side of the next island got destroyed and also nothing happened to the ceadar grove 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
the ghost town your talking about is not a ghost its the cutscene where you find the guys robbing the bank before confrronting his gf
True, but it's also known as the ghost town since its hidden away and only appears when you get close to it... Spooky..
2:46 dude how do this. like a drone shot.
Hey, I used the FlyCam mod by Chel555 Mr_GeniusZ 😊
@@GTAMystereez got it 😊
@@LowkeyEmam Awesome, thanks for watching😁
Ive got another tunnel you can explore 😉
I shall be oblivious to this tunnel no more 🍆🍆
I think there was a mod that connects a tunnel to the ghost town? I'm not so sure anymore which tunnel it was since it's been ages since I've used that mod. Thanks for exploring by the way.
There's a mod which creates a bridge to the ghost town, but I've not seen a tunnel one, it would make it easier to get to it though 😊
This tunnel is in gta Lcs connecting Cochrane dam to Cedar Grove.
This tunnel connect Liberty city to Upstate liberty but we can't access to Upstate Liberty.
Only can access ghost town through mods unfortunately 😕
@@GTAMystereez yes I tried too but unfortunately I can't.
“You have think in your it this just means Carcer City before Tunnels!”
“is Carcer City part of Shoreside Vale!”
- Claude Speed
It's not under construction. You can see where it leads in LCS. You can enter it and exit through the other entrance, they're connected, and inside there's a turn which is also blocked off, probably leading to the ghost town where the Liberty City bank is.
the tunnel leads to upstate liberty. The story happens in the city only, so upstate liberty isn’t needed in the story so thats the reason why the tunnel is blocked.
I always wondered what happened to this tunnel in gta 3 because in gta lcs which takes place 3 years before it was accesible maybe some explosion occured between those years
Maybe...
Or maybe the tunnel was unstable and so they had to find another path or renovate it
i know how to go to carcer city and ghost town if the tunnel was open to upstate that time ghost town will change its name to carcer city and get bigger and remove the void until j* made a mod for it
4:08 u mentioned the tunnel is connecting to the ghost town nope if u played gta liberty city stories The Tunnel is completed but there is another tunnel there called Upstate that maybe the path that leads to ghost town.
I said maybe... Would you like to see a video comparing both tunnels? Thanks for watching 🙂
@@GTAMystereez oh Sure bro
Is it possible to take and drive the cars and trucks from the Ghost Town in GTA 3?
IVE ALWAYS WONDERED THIS!!
Me too 😳
That ghost town is from the cut scene at the start of the game where they Rob the bank.
Good spot 😉
Maybe the Shoreside Tunnels are connected to the Carcer City. 🤔
This is a good theory... Thanks for watching 😁
@@GTAMystereez Yeah, it is. You're welcome.
And, it's stranege that at the same time, Carcer City has old police cars similar to 1980s police cars from Vice City games while Liberty City has late 1990s-2000s police cars. 🤨🤔
No. In LCS it has a sign saying it leads to Upstate Liberty
@@GTAMystereez maybe border vic City and san andreas
Isnt this fake news made up by people who think Claude is Michael da Santa?
Lorewise, those tunnels were meant to lead to Ghost Town.
And Carcer City
No one thought that in LCS tbe tunnel was partially complete, since the entire tunnel in that time were not totally cemented, compared to that in GTAIII. I assume that the tunnel in GTAIII were closed to complete the tunnel by cementing, and maybe to include finishing cement also in Upstate part.
Hey man. Go to gta lcs. The tunnel is open but inside there is another intersection still blocjed off
Will hopefully make a video about this too 🙂
There is a secret macine that is not optainable
Apperantly Rockstar was supposed to add a 4th island but they didnt had time to add more missions and the 4th island was not finnished which resulting in the ghost town
I think it's not a ghost town or early development, this is the behind the scene of the first cutscene in gta 3
In Gta Liberty City stories both the tunnels are open and are connecting each other.
I will hopefully make a video about this soon, stay tuned & thanks for watching!
@@GTAMystereez you too!
Does anyone know what the program in game code is for the Shoreside Vale tunnel? I want to take away the invisible barrier in GTA Underground as there's IPL files of a highway that starts inside that tunnel but I can't access it because the original tunnel files is still in place so the is not accessible
I remember actually going inside the tunnel and at the end there being a town
Was this in GTA 3?
@@GTAMystereez Yes I think so but I don’t really remember that well
You either used a mod or it's a false memory. There is no town beyond the tunnel in any official version of the game.
Gta Lcs.
I think the tunnel is only used in GTA LCS
Yes, it's only open in LCS 😊
I think that tunnel would be an area to Liberty County or part of the opening city scene
Thay tunnel was made for going to ghost town.
Good theory 😉
In contrast to GTA: Vice City, to me, I always firmly believe that those tunnels would serve to give me at least a measurable amount of feasibility of:
"How the folks of Liberty City escape the city proper by car towards to other parts of the USA, and people from outside Liberty City enter the city proper by car."
Whereas Vice City is pretty much an island city (Like probably a few kilometers off the coast of Florida?), which is probably the only thing I don't like about GTA: Vice City.
Good explanation, seems like the best way for people to come into Liberty City other than plane or boat
I always think what happen to the upstate tunnel in gta lcs after gta 3 , and why the upstate tunnel in gta lcs was open and in gta 3 was closed
Guys I have a hypothesis about that. After Claud and Catalina robbed the bank, Catalina tried to kill her boyfriend but it seems she didn't well. So she decided to instruct her band to end up this. But the band was stupid and just couldn't do that, they was planning to kill Claud when he was in the tunnel using tnt. Well it doesn't seem to be worked and next try was on Callahan bridge but with other band where gta 3 starts.
Maybe when Rokstar Games release remaster of gta 3 they will explain it.
the tunnel is destroyed cuz three years before GTA3 storyline, Tony Cipriani puts a lot of explosives inside the tunnel
@@KortexGraphix Do you mean Staunton tunnels? I mean upstate tunnels and there weren't mission in LCS where Tony destroys those tunnels
I think they just needed that old gentleman, not claude, overwise they would have shot him on the spot
Toni only destroyed the area above the tunnels
If you see the hidden town, then you see the intro gta 3.
Correct 😁
Nice video thanks to u because I was wondering what's inside thank u
I am glad you enjoyed my video, thank you! 😁
Oh you also watch thejizzy I love his video
@@adhiAchu_x Yes I watch Jizzy, he makes great videos 😁
Most likely answer is that they removed the tunnel so the player wouldn't see the ghost town.
Awesome video man!! 😄👍🏻
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
@@GTAMystereez you’re very welcome bro!!
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@@GTAMystereez just did 😁🙌🏻
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2005 me crying in the club rn
Guess it triggered some childhood memories... 😭
Do you know ghost town that place that we were calling ghost town at the beginning of the game about the banks and stuff that’s the area😅
The Tunnel leads to GhostTown aka Carcer City aka (Real World) CAMDEN, NJ 😅😂😏; Unfortunately only way to get there is through modding or glitching 😕
I didn't know it's based off of New Jersey 😳 Thanks for watching!
@@GTAMystereez maybe Carcer its based in Philadelphia, i dunno.
Maybe those Tunnels leade to Upstate Liberty, and the other to Carcer City (witch i dunno if its based of Philadelphia or New Jersey)
This is the place how had the acction untroduciton in the mision give me libety
Good work ❤
Nice video
Thank you 😁
Upstate ? Carcer city ?
I thought the "ghost" town was just the setting of the intro cinematic. You can also reach it using a dodo. Pretty sure they put it there on purpose as an easter egg.
It’s part of Carcer City (Shoreside Vale) :/
@Ivoireee I'm not really an expert of game programming, but couldn't they just have put it in a different file and load it only during the cutscene, while keeping it separated from the actual world of the game?
I think The ghost town rockstar made because of to make beginning seen of gta 3
This was it's final purpose yes... Although many believe it had a greater purpose, such as an extra town or a whole new city even!
This is the place where the stroy start
ghost town is what they used for the first cutscene
I'm sure everyone's atleast tried hitting through tha 1st time 🤣
2005 i was really wonder about it lol
Might Be A Carcer City I Guess.
Yeah
“Yeah!”
- Claude
On my opinion i think its the upstate
Interesting
Thank you 😊
When you play lıberty cıty storıes thıs tunnel ıs shorcut too cedar too dam
I vehicle fantasma
It part of story rob bank
For me its carcer city
Bro what cheat did u use to go under the tunnel
Hey, it's a free camera mod for GTA 3 on PC 😊
that ghost town is a bank in intro clips
Nicely spotted!