My Ex JW Story; What Now? (EX Regular Pioneer, Daughter of 144 000) Part 4

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @JoseAngelAvalos1964
    @JoseAngelAvalos1964 5 лет назад +14

    Nice to hear from you again.
    Keep the journey because it helps you and many others who are in similar situation.
    Take care.

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  5 лет назад

      I appreciate that very much! Sending hugs!

  • @jamielitzenberger9977
    @jamielitzenberger9977 5 лет назад +17

    I too can relate to your story. I was disassociated in the mid 80’s I was like 19. Never baptized..Witness all my life, lived in a small town and lost everyone I knew. It was very very painful, in my late 30 or 40’s I tried counseling and had to stop because it was to emotional for me. I had blocked those emotions . It wasn’t until then that I realized I had been shunned and what that meant and did to a person. How crazy to be so brainwashed to think it was normal to be shunned if you weren’t looked at favorably by the congregation, as if shunning was only to get you back. Boy I’d like to see how witnesses would view it if they had to experience it themselves. Is life damaging in so many ways!!

    • @jamielitzenberger9977
      @jamielitzenberger9977 5 лет назад +1

      Thanks for sharing and I look forward to more of your story.

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  5 лет назад +2

      Hi Jamie, thank you so much for sharing with me. I can truly feel for you about blocking the pain of what happened, the shunning. It is truly damaging and not easy to deal with and heal, let alone face. The brainwashing that we experienced was so thorough that de-conditioning and healing from it is like pealing layer after layer of an onion; each one is harder than the next, and just make you weep your eyes out. It's not easy, but it does help to release the pain. For me, blocking it out was causing me more damage,.. I am still in therapy now, and still recovering repressed traumas. It's hard but I know facing the truth of my past will really free me so I can live a life without fear. I'm so happy to have finally found my voice, and to be on the path to healing.
      I hope you've been able to heal and make a life for yourself that brings you happiness and love. I'm sending you so much support, love and hugs Jamie. You're not alone.

    • @SoulshineBnB
      @SoulshineBnB 4 года назад

      Hi Jamie. It’s amazing how long the damage done pervades. I hope you are doing ok? I find I only have problems when I have any contact with my witness family that shun me. If I have nothing to do with this religion I’m generally ok.

    • @jamielitzenberger9977
      @jamielitzenberger9977 4 года назад

      Dallas Milligan thank you! I am doing well and as you said, it is usually when I’m around my family that those feelings creep in . I’ve been very fortunate to have some wonderful friends that have been my friends for over 30 years now that love me unconditionally, and they can never understand why I could’ve been shunned. I’m proud of the human I am, and the way I’ve conducted my life. I see how my Mom is, my siblings that are still JW’s and they are always feeling guilty they struggle with making the simplest decisions because they don’t want to be wrong or have someone else think they didn’t put enough hours in service. Cmon my mom is 84, why should she be expected to turn in her service time.??
      I stopped watching these types of videos for a while because I was finding it was affecting my attitude when I do spend time with them , like I just wanted to shake them out of it but I don’t say anything because they will think I’ve gone apostate. And you know where that will get me.
      Thanks for reaching out.

    • @patricksherwood888
      @patricksherwood888 3 года назад

      @@LearnLoveHeal hi call me im 31 year old man I just want to know your expierence

  • @lisajane4330
    @lisajane4330 5 лет назад +9

    Always great to hear from you, I can relate to you so much, the throwing yourself into work, shelving religion altogether etc. I think only ex witnesses can really appreciate just how hard moving forward can be without family & close friends you always thought would be there. Wishing you all the best!

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  5 лет назад +2

      Thank you so much Ocean Girl! I appreciate that with all my heart. I'm sending you massive love and hugs.

  • @groovy9125
    @groovy9125 5 лет назад +16

    I think your story resonates with a lot of former Jehovah's Witnesses. As a straight guy and after being in this cult for 15 years, and pioneering for 7 of those years, I eventually left in my mid twenties. I find it almost impossible to relate my experiences with so called "worldly" people; even though I'm worldly now. Even though we may describe to them what we went through growing up, it's as if they "hear" us but don't really understand. And dating, now that we're out, is quite hard as it's not easy to connect with others who have no idea with the crap that we put up with in this cult. And very likely your migraines are due to reoccurring remembrances of your past life as a JW; just a guess on my part. I believe we're destined to remember and relive our experiences in this cult for the rest of our lives. But, we don't have to let it consume us. I know a lady who also suffered from migraines as you described soon after she left. This cult is quite corrosive to our psyche and if you need help, you should definitely get it. I left and never looked back. And, I have no idea if I was ever disfellowshipped or not. No one ever told me one way or the other, nor do I care. To me, this is just a ridiculous cult that's in "business" for the mere service of a corporation called Watchtower. Good luck to you and look forward to your next video!

    • @lisajane4330
      @lisajane4330 5 лет назад +4

      So true, I've been very selective with whom I open up to with this religion because as you say they listen but cannot seem to comprehend it, but its great we live in the time of having internet & the ex JW community, knowing we're not alone.

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  5 лет назад +6

      Roger, thank you so much for your comment, and for sharing. I also agree with you on everything you said. I believe everything happens for a reason. Re my migraines, they have been a part of my life ever since repressing the more serious 'child abuse' I suffered. Thankfully I FINALLY realized all the crap I was repressing and have gotten help. In fact, I know the only reason I'm even able to talk about my past now is because I'm in therapy and finally healing from it. I also agree that the JWORG is a business. Period. They are purely in it for money and their members can't even see it. I hope they start to see 'truth about the truth'.
      Thank you again Roger. Sending hugs!

  • @katevann9878
    @katevann9878 5 лет назад +6

    Welcome back! We missed you and excited to hear the rest of your journey. Take your time. We're just happy to see you well and happy.

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  5 лет назад +1

      Kate vann, thank you with all my heart! I am so happy to share with you on my journey. Sending much love and hugs

  • @GG-kv8vv
    @GG-kv8vv 5 лет назад +1

    YES, MeetUps!!! First one this past Sunday. A wonderful day in my life...so many wonderful, unique experiences.

  • @jokich6379
    @jokich6379 5 лет назад +4

    Following your story. I have done so since learning TTATT- there are many stories. Thanks for sharing- I know it is difficult. I wish I was close to a meet up group. I am in the middle of nowhere so my meet up group is watching you tube. Always fascinating when I hear from those who went to "the top"- pioneer, Bethel, elder, ministerial servant (as well as those who were part of the org).

  • @esioashitaka607
    @esioashitaka607 5 лет назад +4

    Healing does take time. I admire your courage to come out and share your story with the world. I can't say I know how you feel. Cause circumstances are always different. I did felt your pain watching you hold back your tears. I'm always here should you need someone to lean on.

  • @etherealmonk7925
    @etherealmonk7925 4 года назад +1

    So good. I was raised JW. My mom got out when I was 13. My dad was never really in it... I still deal with the effects of being in.. now 41.

  • @jessicagreen9059
    @jessicagreen9059 5 лет назад +2

    Ex JW here. Thanks for sharing your story. All of you who have shared your story on here have inspired me to do the same. I love how you set up the table behind you. I am also an empath and totally identify with you on that.

  • @daniSteph19
    @daniSteph19 5 лет назад +7

    My story as ex-jw is very similar to yours. I'm glad you're back with another video!
    Greetings from Costa Rica.

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you so much Daniela Steph! I appreciate it very much! :) Sending hugs and love to you in Costa Rica!

  • @brianfrisk8881
    @brianfrisk8881 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for sharing your story. Like you I'm also an ex/jw in my 40s. I was also fully immersed into the jw lifestyle. Regular auxiliary pioneered for about a year. Was involved in kingdom hall builds. Had a couple of assembly parts. And served as a ministerial servant for over 6 years. Although my negative experiences weren't nearly as bad as yours it was still enough to scar me for life and go to therapy for about a year. You're right about how not facing our problems can cause them to come up to the surface in time. But in facing them it's reassuring to know that we can heal and have a meaningful life for ourselves. Once again thank you for sharing. It was very brave of you and encouraging. :-)

  • @gigidayz6936
    @gigidayz6936 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you for your series. Good work! My story about leaving a cult is coming out too. Much love to you♡

  • @cjpietropinto9293
    @cjpietropinto9293 5 лет назад +1

    I really hope you have the courage/strength to put out some more videos. So many things mirror my life.
    I was born in, I drifted vs being disfellowshiped, recognized that I had bi-sexual tendencies, left young, migraines, happy at work and good at my job, but had to leave due to unexplained illness, I'm also empathetic and avoid the news except for educational purposes.
    The differences, my parents never stopped talking to me. Mom was devout until she died. I even took her to some conventions when no one else would. Just because it wasn't my truth, doesn't mean it didn't benefit her. Or maybe that's still the brain washing. I'm agnostic now, my father is non practicing but still lives by the principals and guidelines. He was an elder. I'm also attempting to write a book, but I have to re-examine the bits about my childhood and religion. So far, I've focused more on my moms illnesses and my brothers suicide.
    I have a husband who loves me, and we are doing well. 18 years together on the tenth of jan 2020.
    Anyway, I hope you do more of these, I know it's hard. Also, happy birthday (jan 4th, so a day early).

  • @NonaMaryGrace1952
    @NonaMaryGrace1952 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you for sharing your story. I have watched all 4 videos. I wish you all the best.💕 NonnaGrace

  • @Esther-1914
    @Esther-1914 5 лет назад +5

    @LearnLoveHeal I'm glad to know you've found true friends after leaving the JW cult. Especially the job opportunities and folks at work who were supportive. I've lost two jobs BECAUSE of being EXJW. The first one was lost because there was a JW in the work group I was in. I was a "temp" then and they just replaced me without even an explanation. I had to figure it out on my own. The second job my boss turned out to be a Secret Society member who worshipped gods like Lucifer and Jehovah. She wore an "engagement" ring with a cross and crown symbol. She had a harder time getting rid of me, but she managed because of her connections. But, by then I was happy to be gone from that job. She was pure evil.

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  5 лет назад +1

      Hi Esther,
      I am so sorry you've been going through these job issues due to you being Ex JW. It surely is telling how these JW's treat people, especially those of us who left. They profess unconditional love but their actions tell the world how 'loveless' they are for anyone outside of the org. I think Jesus would have overturned their 'tables' in anger if he saw how they behave and treat people.
      Sending much love and support Esther. You're not alone.

  • @marshajanulis6092
    @marshajanulis6092 5 лет назад +2

    shauna, that lamp,(what style is that) its beautiful and so are you
    please keep making more video's, you are a great storyteller

  • @cathylynn66
    @cathylynn66 5 лет назад +6

    I’m soo glad your back! 😘🌸💞💓

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  5 лет назад +1

      Cathylynn66, you are so sweet! Thank you so much!! So much love to you!

  • @johnholmes291
    @johnholmes291 5 лет назад +2

    Jehovah God and Jesus never closed the door on you. An organization and People did. They try to Represent God but they never will. Your Presence shows you have God in you and you have a beautiful heart.

  • @gabrielkoncowski9663
    @gabrielkoncowski9663 4 года назад +1

    Love your videos.well done.your helping lots.thanks

  • @helciooliveira9519
    @helciooliveira9519 5 лет назад +2

    Very touching story. I am currently in the jw. But i start to question myself, i love the bible and god. But i dont like the prejudice and the lack of love for life and doing what is best. From read the bible i cannot imagine this god of jws that dont let you be who you are. I read genesis and i felt in love with this compassive and patient god, He respected the doubts of Abraham and Moses, he will never be unrighteous to destroy us for no reason. We must love He from all love and so to ours Next. Thanks for sharing

    • @Mary_Miller19
      @Mary_Miller19 5 лет назад

      I hope you will find your way out of the JW CULT.

    • @veratonnisen3639
      @veratonnisen3639 4 года назад

      Helcio Oliveira hi you are currently in I have a good advice for you, one day on the net I stumbled on Jason Zeldas videos he have about 20, he is trying to help JWs leave the colt, and help them come to Jesus Christ, he is amazing. I have been a Christian all my life , and I learned a lot from this blessed man. Love and God bless from Canada Erik Tonnisen

  • @amelialin8877
    @amelialin8877 5 лет назад +2

    Praying for you.

  • @cathylynn66
    @cathylynn66 5 лет назад +2

    Thinking of you and hoping your ok. 🌸

  • @coralrain6332
    @coralrain6332 5 лет назад +3

    You’re back! 🤗🤗🤗

  • @exposingbullies260
    @exposingbullies260 4 года назад +1

    About the migraines, someone i know is treating his migraines with injections into the back of his head. The contents of the syringe according to him is the same stuff thats used for botox.

  • @GG-kv8vv
    @GG-kv8vv 5 лет назад

    So much of us share your story.

  • @amymascara8864
    @amymascara8864 5 лет назад +1

    Your testimony tugged and pulled at my heartstrings and my similar personality sensitivity and memories in childhood. One way or another(believe it or not) many of us go through these kinds of experiences so that we will not accept all the hidden lies that are controlling the world through the religious and cultural twists and turns off of the scriptures which in their own way “make 2 time child of hell” Very difficult to see the simple truth in the scripture after content has been shredded and mangled into an entirely different story to cause people to fight God for their own survival.So angry with God because He is not who we were led to believe that He is.He isn’t in the religious organizations He’s much bigger than these small boxes and He loves us and helps us to finally see His truth about what’s happening. Thanks so much for sharing with others what you have been through.... that is His Truth “to set us free indeed”

  • @mizfrenchtwist
    @mizfrenchtwist 5 лет назад +4

    even though the religion wasn't for you , it did have some good points, that you were imbued with ..........they all do . all of that , went in to making you , the awesome person that you are . you are right to stand in your own truth . keep the good you experienced and keep it moving......YOU WILL BE JUST FINE..............

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  5 лет назад +1

      I appreciate your comment more than you know. I completely agree with you, in that I learned a lot, and that so much of who I am is because of all that I experienced, in this cult and my earlier life. I am so proud to finally stand in my own truth. Thank you for your support and encouragement. Much love

    • @gigidayz6936
      @gigidayz6936 5 лет назад +1

      I hear the same thing about the cult I left and it isnt true. Cults get NO credit. Any strength we who leave possess is because of something intrinsic in us.

    • @mizfrenchtwist
      @mizfrenchtwist 5 лет назад

      @@gigidayz6936.........whatever ......... religious cults " must " have some good points too , otherwise , they would not garner the following that they do , from otherwise normal people . i studied with them and there were , some good things about them..........didn't join though..........

  • @marie-clairedelongchamp1330
    @marie-clairedelongchamp1330 5 лет назад +3

    I was wondering what you were up to! Nice to hear & see you again! I live about 2 1/2 hours from Montreal,so if I can ever muster up the courage to drive to the big city on my own I would definitely love to get in touch with the meet-up exJW group. Could you let me know exactly how to get in touch IF EVER? I can relate to what you’re saying “everyone has a story”, take whatever time is needed. I left 8 months ago after 33 years in, these discussions albeit one sided are therapeutic to me. I admire your courage, will look forward to future posts. Perhaps someday we will meet in person 😊. Thank you & take care, cause I care!

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  5 лет назад

      Hi Marie-Claire, thank you so much for your comment!
      It would be great if you could come down to our Meetup in Mtl! I would love to meet and share in person with you, and to hear your story if you're inclined to sharing. I am sending so much love and support to you, I know it's not easy leaving. I will post the meet up details so that you can join if you like, then you can send me a message directly through the meet up if that works. Also, it's a private group so it makes it easier.
      www.meetup.com/Montreal-EX-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Meetup/
      I'm sending massive hugs and love to you on your journey Marie-Claire, you're not alone.

  • @GG-kv8vv
    @GG-kv8vv 5 лет назад

    You look so much happier! Good for you!!

  • @BrianH7
    @BrianH7 5 лет назад

    Praise Jesus our Lord and Savior!

  • @moppeliini6614
    @moppeliini6614 5 лет назад

    Thank you. Really waiting a new content.Follow up.

  • @canoenut
    @canoenut 5 лет назад

    As an ExJdub and a Montrealer, is there any contact info about the Montreal meet-up group?

  • @Papi_WT
    @Papi_WT 8 месяцев назад

    Migraines. Solution??

  • @ukanita865
    @ukanita865 5 лет назад +1

    Brave fantastic lady, love to you and your on going journey and recovery. Love to you from uk I left in April 2019 after over 36 yrs as a jw and reg pioneer. It’s a mind control cult.

  • @muvielous
    @muvielous 5 лет назад +1

    I hope you are doing well and may the creator bless your life. FYI, the creator cannot be described by men or defined or worshipped for that matter. We only live life in part just like all the animals the creator created, only knowing what's in front of us and not the end... I guess the end is when we lay in the grave. Anyway, enjoy life because you're here and you might as well enjoy what is in the present, try forgetting what does not bring the best of you but ONLY the best of you that express love to all humankind. Peace!!!!!!!!!

  • @dawndoud6848
    @dawndoud6848 5 лет назад

    Hopefully your mom will come across these videos of yours and understand what has been happening ... maybe she will contact you again. It is very possible

  • @cathylynn66
    @cathylynn66 5 лет назад

    Hello. I hope your doing well. Missing your videos.

  • @mechelleh8883
    @mechelleh8883 5 лет назад +2

    I hope and will pray you find your mom. I am o sorry, I can hear the pain in your voice. I noticed that you refer to the your father as annointed still even after leaving JW organization. I can't say that he is not as the Holy Spirit bears witness with your spirit the scripture says. It seems to me (not trying to judge) but also says ye shall know them by their fruits. And Jesus said when asked how many times are we to forgive and he said 70x70 or something like that. Have to look it up. His point was we are to love one another and forgive. If he hasn't forgiven you ,he won't be forgiven. He is not showing love to you,which is a "lack of natural affection" you are his child and you should live your children no matter what. As Jesus loves us all.
    Thank you for sharing your thoughts, experience,story.I know that it is hard to talk about,and you want to just bury it. I don't have to do that anymore. I struggle every day with doubts about myself and how he could love me,but he has shown me that I am ok and he is with me. They will know they are my disciples if they have love one for another, The governing body (little g) organization (little o) does not show not promote genuine love. It's counterfeit just as Satan is counterfeit.
    God loves everyone
    Love and prayers for you and the relationship between you and your mother is healed. I hope you have a beautiful blessed day
    Mechelle

  • @brotherhype-maninchristjes2766
    @brotherhype-maninchristjes2766 5 лет назад +1

    +LearnLoveHeal Praise the LORD thank you for your RUclips video ministry, woman of God. thank you so much. God bless. Agape love

  • @TruthHasSpoken
    @TruthHasSpoken 5 лет назад

    Wonderful story. It is most contradictory about the Watchtower: they profess the early Church to have been most corrupt after the death of the last apostle, but they tacitly trust the authority of Catholic Bishops, all Trinitarians, 300 years later to even know what books belong in their New World Translation. They even use the very same New Testament writings, 27 - no more, no less, out of some 300+ early Christian writings. JW.ORG never brings up this contradiction, let alone explains it.

  • @cathylynn66
    @cathylynn66 5 лет назад

    Where are you?😩

  • @SoulshineBnB
    @SoulshineBnB 4 года назад

    There are so many ex jw stories on RUclips now. How anyone new joins jw after seeing all these stories is beyond belief. I guess they are warned of apostates very early. I’ll post my jw story on day. All those years in the religion, the only time I was happy wears when I was doing wrong. I spent over 3 years being disfellowshipped at different times sitting in the back of the hall like a leper.
    I attended a Kingdom Hall a couple of years ago for my fathers funeral. I will never set foot in a Kingdom Hall again.

  • @lisapadgett5690
    @lisapadgett5690 5 лет назад

    The shunning aspect of this cult is the way they keep JW from leaving.

  • @JamesCarter-ii4up
    @JamesCarter-ii4up 5 лет назад

    What happens is that people get into Relationship with Their God so much that they go nuts... It happens to everyone...They get up... then they come down... then Eather Fall away or get Disfellowship...Jesus Christ say be a Rebel.. ...Make waves...fall and get back,, I seen it first ✋ ...and took to the challenge... They all looked down at Me for not going to Kingdom Hall and being a outlaw..... But at the end I'm still with Jehovah God Almighty.... and they all fall short....and I have always loved Jehovah God almighty and that's between him and I... Thank you Jesus Christ for the Light and journey to loving Father Jehovah God Almighty.....That's All Folks ....Love is all that Matter's to Father Jehovah God Almighty... Love is the only way out.... Sobeit

  • @cathylynn66
    @cathylynn66 5 лет назад +1

    Oh no don’t leave us hanging again. 😞😒😫😩🥺😢

  • @murphrdnmurphrdn2952
    @murphrdnmurphrdn2952 2 года назад +1

    Jehovah Wickedness I hated this cult!

  • @augustbruce
    @augustbruce 4 года назад

    Followed your first 4 videos------interesting story well told------I am a fade out shunned by all my children, but I still believe in God and the Bible and its principles----while i understand your position on the JW organization, what i do not understand is why you "shelved" God and the bible when it is the failings of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society cult which does the damage--------Was all your faith in the "Society" and none in God?---Was all your direction from the"Society" and none from the Bible?

  • @bestfriend7285
    @bestfriend7285 5 лет назад

    In english: Why there are apostates jw's, where'as they are not baptized by forced. The baptism is voluntary done given by one's own choice not by forced of one's own accord.

  • @maurinopaule8625
    @maurinopaule8625 4 года назад

    good

  • @DV-ux8eg
    @DV-ux8eg 5 лет назад +3

    🤗🤗🤗🤗👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @stephcarlofc
    @stephcarlofc 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much for this video. I was raised in that JW cult and I was the smart one of my familia to not have gotten baptized. My mother b4 she joined the ancestors got so mad why didn't I. I just always thought something was off about the JW's. They're so full of shit. There is so much racism and bias in that organization, it's not even funny. My mother went crazy because of that faith. And when she died, they didn't even want to give her a witness burial. They did though. I've never felt so free since leaving that piece of shit cult. Thank you so much for you videos. Much love and prayers your way. Hugs for you. BTW are you from 🇺🇸 or 🇨🇦?

  • @interestinginsights6077
    @interestinginsights6077 4 года назад

    Ecclesiastes 3:9What does the worker gain from his toil? 10I have seen the burden that God has laid upon the sons of men to occupy them. 11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men, yet they cannot fathom the work that God has done from beginning to end.
    12I know that there is nothing better for them than to rejoice and do good while they live, 13and also that every man should eat and drink and find satisfaction in all his labor- this is the gift of God. 14I know that everything God does endures forever; nothing can be added to it or taken from it. God does it so that they should fear Him. 15What exists has already been, and what will be has already been, for God will call to account what has passed.

  • @catlinboy
    @catlinboy 3 года назад

    Sorry this comment is on the wrong video, but you said before that Jehovah and the organisation had been able to forgive you, but that your father was unable to. I cannot help but say that you did nothing that needed forgiveness. Nothing, not one thing. You didn't have an affair, you had a relationship. You are a human being, who had a relationship with another consenting adult human being because that's how we be people. For anyone who is reading this, you cannot be forgiven for something that wasn't wrong in the first place.

    • @LearnLoveHeal
      @LearnLoveHeal  3 года назад

      Thank you with all my heart for your kind and most supportive words. You are right, I did nothing wrong and I am so happy to be free from this brainwashing and abusive organization.

  • @bluefidle
    @bluefidle 5 лет назад

    I hope you find your mom.

  • @luvn.j.4263
    @luvn.j.4263 5 лет назад

    # STOP WATCHTOWER 🙏

  • @khaliffoster3777
    @khaliffoster3777 4 года назад

    HI, so the base reason you became EX JW because you were lesbian and accept it or your father stops talking to you, or it is both are both is linked since your father stop talking to you because of negative thing like lesbian or it is a deeper reason because you assume JW accept all negative and all positive that is gay is right and other stuff is right so your father's response shouldn't be negative to you?? So, your father accepts gay?? Or you feel lesbian in your mind so it must be right because it is in your thoughts?? Well, all conscious is primary to secondary that is subconscious, that means conscious from external to internal, so your lesbian tendings can come from anything, your conscious is powerful it has all combine of all memory, understanding, etc, it is the same as a dream that it can dream anything that is logical, but you can't think of that dream, so your subconscious can think of a dream that is higher than your willpower to create a dream thru conscious. So, you shouldn't underestimate your consciousness because your consciousness is linked to the subconscious. If there are gay tendings, then there is a reason for that but base your liking to girls but other reasons. So, your dream is a representation for anything, so your subconscious though is a representation or it is conscious though that you are not aware of wanting a woman so you keep that wanting, so not all people will have the same wanting, so it depends on the person. So, you have to know yourself as a child very well, so how does that child to react and keep that react so it brought so you like girls base on that?
    So, the point your willpower doesn't exceed your subconscious, your subconscious exceed your will power. So, whatever the reason, it doesn't justify JW as wrong because the whole point of the bible is connected God, Jehovah to people, that means there is no negative that human invents, but positive that God invents and keep it. So, lesbian is not invented by God, but humans. So, when your parent punish you or other parents punish the children, does it means the parents are bad and evil?? So, you were reproof, disfellowship, and other stuff, does it means JW is wrong and evil?? It is not fair that parents can punish yet children can still love parent, the same is that you did wrong thing as you promise when a teen so you broke the promise to Jehovah. It is about being clean and Jehovah does punish people, too. Otherwise, there is no need for bible and communication between Jehovah and humans because humans can do whatever they want and live forever, but we die is connect to punish of our action that is negative to Jehovah so that is needed to be clean by Jesus by his death thru his positiveness, so Jesus did all that is right, was he gay or so?? It is not fair you accept yourself as a lesbian but you accept Jesus but Jesus was not gay. So, that is a contradiction, so if Jesus knows you are lesbian will he accept you as lesbian or reject lesbian??
    The parent that punish children doesn't mean the parent hate the children but hate the action, so it is an about right negative condition so condition love which parents love you thru positive action but not thru negative action so will parent accept people that kill people, rape people, be lesbian, etc?? So, that would mean parents change themselves to justify the love for their children so they love more things like lesbian, gay, etc to justify the love for their children that means parents add the love, so it means to change themselves. That is not Jehovah & Jehovah doesn't change. Did Jesus love Judas constantly as keep Judas thru the 'Lord's Supper'?? No, he told him to go. Judas did a negative thing. So, don't assume negative as positive. It is constantly negative or constant positive from Jehovah's POV. Positive can change to negative, so can negative can change to positive. But it depends on your action that is positive or negative.
    You suppress Lesbian but didn't remove from your heart that is why you have a headache, bad ones since you have two personality one that wants to be lesbian and one want to be JW, so the desire of Lesbian surface thru killer headache thru the person explain the headache to you that is from stress, right, so when free yourself so your headache is reduce, right? So, the problem you suppress, but not remove it.

  • @dorothyoz5355
    @dorothyoz5355 5 лет назад

    This was long and painful to listen to, you could have told this story in at least 2 sessions. You are not a very good historian, or story teller you jump back and forth and don't do into detail at any one time....I found this a total waste of my time. I watched all 4, don't ask me why.

    • @judyrutherford5721
      @judyrutherford5721 5 лет назад +6

      Dorothy OZ - seriously you’re leaving that comment. This woman poured her heart and soul out! You need help.

    • @ESeda-lo1dv
      @ESeda-lo1dv 5 лет назад +5

      Dorothy OZ- I will ask you why actually, why did you? I see your point, but although we may not agree with something doesn't mean we can simply blurt it out like that. You seem to put yourself on a really high place, are you a historian? This is her experience and her channel, she wasn't obligated to share her story with anyone, but she chose to do it because it helps others. You weren't obligated to watch it either, sometimes things are painful, all you can do is learn from them and move on.

    • @jah97302
      @jah97302 5 лет назад +5

      Everyone needs to tell their own story in their own way. Yes, if she was writing a book she would need to edit and organize to better present her life story - but this is not a book. She is simply sitting in front of the camera and telling her story directly to her viewers as it comes to mind - editing and extending instantly as each portion comes to mind. What is important here is her credibility, not her delivery. And every story is different. What is the same for most of us is the standard way that Jehovah's Witnesses ("friends" and family members) act and react to someone who simply wants to leave and live their life in a different format. That fact alone confirms that it is the Watchtower Society that is creating the problems by their policies and seeking control over anyone belonging or connected to their Kingdom Halls. I think she did just fine - and if she hasn't already written a book - I strongly suggest that she do so.