Maybe the prison guards were afraid they'd also have to study Klingon to keep up!Everything about the episode censorship is so interesting. Great video!
I've been working at collecting all the TOS novels for about a year now, and funnily enough, the first book I picked up was the ORIGINAL version of Killing Time. I had no idea about it and when i got home and looked it up, i was thrilled lol. But it's such a great story. One of the best, in my opinion. There are 2 other books that are sorta banned??? They're called The Price of the Pheonix and The Fate of the Pheonix, written by Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath. And oh boy. If you thought that Killing Time was to erotic between Kirk and Spock... Those two books are INSANE 💀. They came out in the late 70s and I don't know about the second one, but the first book was approved by Gene Roddenberry himself. I heard that he even praised the writers for it. I was lucky enough to find the original editions of both of them in various bookstores. I've only read the first one so far, but it is crazy.
@OceansOfAvalon Okay, yeah -- the Phoenix novels are way out there. I did a video about one of those last year, I think. The heavily implied slash stuff bothered me less than the ponderous conversations about who's the alpha and what does that mean. Awful books but I'm not even sure they fall into the "so bad they're good" category.
I have a copy of Killing Time (the ammended version) on my shelves - I just haven't gotten around to reading it yet...a possible candidate for this year's Book Trek. 😁 Those banned TOS episodes were something of a disappointment when I finally watched them on home video in the late '80's - I thought they might be somehow violent and disturbing - Miri was passable, but nothing to write home about, Plato's Stepchildren turned out to be a particularly cringeworthy episode, (along the lines of Spock's Brain), while The Empath, and Whom Gods Destroy were real nothingburgers IMHO. The TNG episode The High Ground was banned in the UK, I gather, not so much because of unification message, but because of the parallels drawn between the Ansata terrorists in the show and the IRA.
@@LiterateTexan They sure were! Those first three movie adaptations, and The Entropy Effect, Yesterday's Son, The Wounded Sky... they really set the bar high for Star Trek writing. 😁
That was interesting. I'm surprised at what people ban and for what reason. I especially liked the English only at the poker table story. Carpe Diem! 🥳
I am amazed that you could go on at length about the Star Trek novel "Killing Time" without telling who the author is. But maybe you have your reasons for keeping it secret.
Too bad Klingon is copyrighted. I wonder if you could legally make a parody of various gangs--Peckerwoods, Latin Kings, The Black Guerrilla Family--speaking their own Klingon dialect (without getting killed, of course).
Maybe the prison guards were afraid they'd also have to study Klingon to keep up!Everything about the episode censorship is so interesting. Great video!
Thanks so much! I enjoyed researching this one.
J. R. R. Tolkien rather famously said something like, "Do you know who worries about Escapism? Jailors!"
I like it!
This was fascinating, Randy! Great story about your poker playing experience too! Thanks for this interesting addition to Book Trek!😊
I'm glad you liked my little poker anecdote. I have several others to sprin̈kle into some future posts.
@@LiterateTexan Excellent! I’ll look forward to them! 😊
Banned and censored Star Trek! Who da thunk it!
Hard to imagine
Excellent video. As you say, a lot more banned Trek than I would have guessed!
I guess this means that Texas state prisoners cannot read Hamlet in the original Klingon.
It's not exactly a cultural hotbed, huh?
I've been working at collecting all the TOS novels for about a year now, and funnily enough, the first book I picked up was the ORIGINAL version of Killing Time. I had no idea about it and when i got home and looked it up, i was thrilled lol. But it's such a great story. One of the best, in my opinion.
There are 2 other books that are sorta banned??? They're called The Price of the Pheonix and The Fate of the Pheonix, written by Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath. And oh boy. If you thought that Killing Time was to erotic between Kirk and Spock...
Those two books are INSANE 💀. They came out in the late 70s and I don't know about the second one, but the first book was approved by Gene Roddenberry himself. I heard that he even praised the writers for it.
I was lucky enough to find the original editions of both of them in various bookstores. I've only read the first one so far, but it is crazy.
Also, great video! Hilarious that Klingon is banned in prisons
@OceansOfAvalon Okay, yeah -- the Phoenix novels are way out there. I did a video about one of those last year, I think. The heavily implied slash stuff bothered me less than the ponderous conversations about who's the alpha and what does that mean. Awful books but I'm not even sure they fall into the "so bad they're good" category.
@LiterateTexan Yeah, the whole plot was super confusing, and the talk about being an Alpha? I just couldn't take that seriously 😂
@@OceansOfAvalon My friend Steve Donoghue claims that this is his favorite Star Trek novel, but I think he's pulling my leg.
@LiterateTexan I'd assume he is! It's hard to imagine that as anyone's favourite Star Trek novel, but it was certainly an interesting read.
I have a copy of Killing Time (the ammended version) on my shelves - I just haven't gotten around to reading it yet...a possible candidate for this year's Book Trek. 😁
Those banned TOS episodes were something of a disappointment when I finally watched them on home video in the late '80's - I thought they might be somehow violent and disturbing - Miri was passable, but nothing to write home about, Plato's Stepchildren turned out to be a particularly cringeworthy episode, (along the lines of Spock's Brain), while The Empath, and Whom Gods Destroy were real nothingburgers IMHO. The TNG episode The High Ground was banned in the UK, I gather, not so much because of unification message, but because of the parallels drawn between the Ansata terrorists in the show and the IRA.
The first couple dozen Star Trek Pocket Books really were something, though, weren't they?
@@LiterateTexan They sure were! Those first three movie adaptations, and The Entropy Effect, Yesterday's Son, The Wounded Sky... they really set the bar high for Star Trek writing. 😁
Great video Randy. Carpe diem!
"English only at the table, sir!'
That was interesting. I'm surprised at what people ban and for what reason. I especially liked the English only at the poker table story. Carpe Diem! 🥳
I am amazed that you could go on at length about the Star Trek novel "Killing Time" without telling who the author is. But maybe you have your reasons for keeping it secret.
Della Van Hise is the author. Just a mistake on my end, so sorry.
crazy
I thought Killing Time was a pretty good novel.
I haven't read it yet, but it looks good.
Too bad Klingon is copyrighted. I wonder if you could legally make a parody of various gangs--Peckerwoods, Latin Kings, The Black Guerrilla Family--speaking their own Klingon dialect (without getting killed, of course).
Ha! I love this idea
Am I a sci-fi nerd? No. Am I going to let an upload go by since I found you without at least giving you the watch time and engagement? Also no 😘
You are TOO sweet! Lol, this is the first comment today that literally made me laugh out loud.