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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2022
  • The scene band tier list is here! Where do bands like Attack Attack, Chiodos, Never Shout Never, Breathe Caroline, Blessthefall, Forever The Sickest Kids, I See Stars, All Time Low, Woe Is Me and Enter Shikari belong on the scene band tier list?
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Комментарии • 851

  • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
    @FinnMckentyPRMBA  Год назад +19

    Come hang out on Twitch! www.twitch.tv/finnmckenty

    • @lucas75657
      @lucas75657 Год назад +3

      ATL got done dirty here, that video is supposed to make them look douchey as a joke. That was like half of their gimmick back then.
      Anyway, good vid! Definitely hoping for part 2

    • @RobertLaishram
      @RobertLaishram Год назад

      do a power metal tier list that would be fun. hand grabs, suns and all the aesthetics

    • @Quikkz_Haste
      @Quikkz_Haste Год назад +2

      Enter Shikari fans are out for blood now🩸 you summoned them lol 😂

    • @williamduncan8282
      @williamduncan8282 Год назад

      @@Quikkz_Haste yes. They did have a few songs that bloow up. And the interesting thing is skater guys like them 2

    • @grigoriybasov9951
      @grigoriybasov9951 Год назад

      When are you going to make a video about the band Broadway?

  • @xRamZx
    @xRamZx Год назад +97

    Chiodos in the F tier hurt my old man scene kid heart.

  • @MikeHoncho610
    @MikeHoncho610 Год назад +255

    I’m still just flabbergasted that Woe is Me had 8 members. That’s EIGHT people that listened to the final version of their songs and said, “yep, that’s good.” 🤯

  • @andyman7830
    @andyman7830 Год назад +249

    Finn validating Attack Attack! with the S tier is the approval I never got from my father

  • @zachmongoe
    @zachmongoe Год назад +102

    The hate for Enter Shikari really hurt. But I've loved them since I was 14 & I am 30 now haha so maybe that's why. But they are objectively great musicians.

    • @McYates24
      @McYates24 Год назад +18

      I'm afraid he's ignorant to the vast majority of their music, they're incredible

    • @ErikJason_
      @ErikJason_ Год назад +13

      They go hard with those electronic elements and they have been killing it lately. Been a fan of them for almost a decade now and the hate is unnecessary.

    • @zachmongoe
      @zachmongoe Год назад +3

      Thank God. I mean people like what they like just his take seemed out of touch a bit haha.

    • @atlasfontaine
      @atlasfontaine Год назад +12

      I didn’t discover them until a couple of years ago, so I’m not blinded by nostalgia and I think they’re great. Not that it really matters, but I think they came before both Attack Attack and I See Stars.

    • @mikerowland4004
      @mikerowland4004 Год назад +1

      I agree I love them.

  • @danielmorgan104dm
    @danielmorgan104dm Год назад +98

    Enter Shikari straight into the S+ tier for sure. every album is different and they push the boundaries further with every album. yes in their early days their production was far from good but they have some great production these days and one of the most loyal fan bases around!
    Plus you brought up the demo version of the song for the audience to see and not the album version while the song wasn't finished.

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  Год назад +19

      I just played what they put on youtube. Don’t blame me

    • @danielmorgan104dm
      @danielmorgan104dm Год назад +16

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA yeah no blame what so ever. It is a bit odd that the demo is on RUclips and the finished piece isnt.
      anyone love the videos man

    • @sentientcardboarddumpster7900
      @sentientcardboarddumpster7900 Год назад +1

      They have that one good song lol

    • @PedroHenrique-mj1mn
      @PedroHenrique-mj1mn Год назад +16

      Take To The Skies is a f***ing classic

    • @McYates24
      @McYates24 Год назад

      hard facts

  • @Road370
    @Road370 Год назад +77

    A scene band tier list without Bring Me The Horizon is unthinkable

    • @mramisuzuki6962
      @mramisuzuki6962 Год назад +6

      What? They’re a -core band and only added “scene” stuff long after scene music was dead.

    • @ErikJason_
      @ErikJason_ Год назад +6

      They only had the scene vibes during the Count Your Blessings and Suicide Season days. Nothing beyond that.

    • @Joseph-R
      @Joseph-R Год назад +4

      I'm more surprised there was no Alesana

    • @Skeeeewoah
      @Skeeeewoah Год назад +6

      Totally agree. BMTH & Asking Alexandria are by far the most well known scene bands from that period.

    • @whore42069
      @whore42069 Год назад

      tbf i feel like they've definitely outgrown the scene at this point

  • @Swollen_Goat
    @Swollen_Goat Год назад +49

    Every time you talk about Enter Shikari, you always just show the first songs. Their material now is leagues beyond what they were back in the scene days and it really shows. Obviously I don't care that you don't like them because I fucking love them, but I wish you would stop just summing it up as they suck because of their first album. "Nothing is True, and Everything is Possible" is so damn good, as well as "Flash Flood of Colour" and "Mindsweep"
    Also, there better be a Part 2 of this since I did not see any Pierce the Veil on here. We all know PTV was and is still one of the biggest scene bands to ever come out.

    • @danielmorgan104dm
      @danielmorgan104dm Год назад +12

      couldn't have summed in up better myself. amazing albums and and even better live show

    • @paulphoenix1669
      @paulphoenix1669 Год назад +12

      They're FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE LIVE

    • @PedroHenrique-mj1mn
      @PedroHenrique-mj1mn Год назад +8

      I’m pretty sure Finn never listened to the first album. Take To The Skies is a f***ing classic and way better than Attack Attack

    • @foodlord1
      @foodlord1 Год назад +5

      he does that with a lot of bands, might be on purpose, but might just be laziness.

    • @nineinchthread
      @nineinchthread Год назад +1

      ​@@foodlord1 I noticed I think more and more people are beginning to criticize him more and he can't always take it

  • @paulphoenix1669
    @paulphoenix1669 Год назад +93

    Enter Shikari in F tier is reprehensible
    Their first 4 albums are slappers non stop

    • @Ravelle17
      @Ravelle17 Год назад +6

      Flash Flood and The Mindsweep are unimpeachable

    • @android521
      @android521 Год назад +4

      They’ve really have only gotten better with each album. Honestly TTTS is not a great representation of their overall sound.

    • @paulphoenix1669
      @paulphoenix1669 Год назад +1

      I agree

    • @rickydornberger4771
      @rickydornberger4771 Год назад

      They are one of my favorite bands I don't even thing their early stuff aged all that well but F tier is absurd.

    • @paulphoenix1669
      @paulphoenix1669 Год назад

      @@rickydornberger4771 yeah, honestly embarrassing tbh, so many incredible lyrics "MATE, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT?!!?", "IF YOU STAND FOR NOTHING, YOU WILL FALL FOR EVERYTHING", "well quelle fuckin surprise ", "countries are just lines drawn in the sand with a stick" neveind literally every word on arguing with thermometers

  • @garrett4299
    @garrett4299 Год назад +78

    Chiodos is what got me into scene culture back in 2008 😅 I respect your opinion as always, but I stan chiodos 😔✊🏻

    • @keyser2379
      @keyser2379 Год назад +4

      That one DRUGS album was way better than anything he done in Chiodos anyway 🤷

    • @Pantherfighter
      @Pantherfighter Год назад +3

      @@keyser2379 D.R.U.G.S was actually amazing and still is. That one album is crazy good

    • @garrett4299
      @garrett4299 Год назад

      @@keyser2379 I gotta agree. That shit was hyped af back in 2010

    • @tamamakiiti587
      @tamamakiiti587 Год назад +6

      chiodos forever man so good

    • @zdoggzero6595
      @zdoggzero6595 Год назад

      @@keyser2379 both of them, Chiodos is at least C tier though they have some real gems

  • @MrGreenman447
    @MrGreenman447 Год назад +102

    Everyone knows that scene music is the pinnacle of human achievement

  • @brett5569
    @brett5569 Год назад +107

    Huge fan of chiodos. I always feel they had a different vibe back then with utilizing their piano more

    • @noshttaken
      @noshttaken Год назад +6

      He Merced em lol

    • @williamsussman7343
      @williamsussman7343 Год назад +12

      Same, and yet I knew Finn would rate them shit. Apparently what clothes they wear is more important than being unique in the genre with different instruments 🙄

    • @brandons6282
      @brandons6282 Год назад +6

      look how they massacred my boy

    • @ErikJason_
      @ErikJason_ Год назад +6

      Chiodos with Brandon as the lead singer > everything they did Craig. Facts.

    • @brett5569
      @brett5569 Год назад +5

      @@ErikJason_ I don’t know..I never got into Brandon’s vocals that much but I do respect that album. I always wondered how Craig would have sounded on that album

  • @justinweisel4451
    @justinweisel4451 Год назад +96

    Enter Shikari is the reason why you've got bands like Attack Attack and I See Stars. The hate for Shikari is cruel and unreasonable.

    • @zhoops5122
      @zhoops5122 Год назад +8

      Same with chiodos, big agree

    • @GatorShins-CovenDev
      @GatorShins-CovenDev Год назад

      yuuup, both them and Chiodos laid the ground work so these other bands could exist tbf

    • @L33TZER
      @L33TZER Год назад

      They have one good song I listened to their other shit, and mothership is the best song they got maybe it’s the accent for me

    • @ChristopherJames1993
      @ChristopherJames1993 Год назад

      ​@@L33TZERRou doesnt help himself by overdoing his accent in all their songs.

    • @GatorShins-CovenDev
      @GatorShins-CovenDev Год назад +2

      @@ChristopherJames1993 man sings in his accent... ^ this guy: stop that

  • @matthewrosenberger5652
    @matthewrosenberger5652 Год назад +37

    Enter Shikari is a top 5 band for me. They have pretty great range and crush ballads, but still have energetic up tempo tracks, ie. The Void Stares Back. Finn, I would love to see a dedicated Enter Shikari video after you've done a deep dive and (hopefully) changed your mind. Great content as always.

    • @McYates24
      @McYates24 Год назад

      My second fav band of all time :')

  • @dickerzanti
    @dickerzanti Год назад +20

    enter shikari have improved drastically.

  • @Jdadd218
    @Jdadd218 Год назад +24

    FTSK Underdog Alma Mater is such a masterpiece. It’s on my list of un-skippable albums. Finn is a man of culture

  • @AveragePunEnjoyer
    @AveragePunEnjoyer Год назад +28

    I'm scared to see where you'd rank bands like Alesana and Drop Dead Gorgeous now.
    Oh and the list definitely needs more bree bree. No scene band tier list is complete without Brokencyde

    • @colinmcdonald23
      @colinmcdonald23 Год назад +6

      I saw Drop Dead, Gorgeous on tour with blessthefall and Greeley Estates. it was a really fun show. I still listen to them. In Vogue is a dope album

    • @priscillab.3004
      @priscillab.3004 Год назад +2

      Alesana is perfect but I bet he would hate dennis’ harsh vocals

  • @speedzonefilms
    @speedzonefilms Год назад +23

    Enter Shikari’s “mothership” video/audio was from an early EP in 2005 before their first album in 07. They rereleased that song with the remastered audio. They deserve a bit more respect since they were doing this rave/hardcore sound earlier than the other bands like attack attack and I see stars. I’d check out “Destabilise” by them. I think their overall best song!

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  Год назад +1

      Why is it important who did it first?

    • @speedzonefilms
      @speedzonefilms Год назад +19

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA influence! 😄

    • @speedzonefilms
      @speedzonefilms Год назад +3

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA great video though, love to binge your stuff. Had to comment for my boys

    • @LPBrandelion
      @LPBrandelion Год назад +2

      ​​@@FinnMckentyPRMBA I mean, from just an archival standpoint, it's hecka cool lol Which btw, ty for putting me on GAB3 a handful of years back, one of my top 10 fave artists now lol He was so early in his respective scene and so FUCKING GOOOD

  • @SymphanyinSorrow
    @SymphanyinSorrow Год назад +19

    What I enjoy most about this channel is that 1, you keep your opinions unfiltered, and 2, the comments share their opinions without throwing a fit if it is different than yours (mostly). Just good music conversations.
    Being said, here is my rating strictly just based on my own music taste… Woe is Me D, Sleeping With Sirens C, Attack Attack D, Chiodos A, Bless the Fall D, Millionaires F, Boys Like Girls B, Enter Shikari A, Breathe Carolina D, NeverShoutNever S, All Time Low B, The Summer Set D, Forever the Sickest Kids A, I See Stars D, Dot Dot Curve F

  • @MetalTrenches
    @MetalTrenches Год назад +40

    “I heard it in a shoe store once” and “even in his mugshot he had cool hair” totally capture this era of music

  • @zvchobag
    @zvchobag Год назад +34

    Chiodos’ Bone Palace was a great album. Their early shit was sloppy af but the heavy shit still bopped

    • @carsonbarr2233
      @carsonbarr2233 Год назад +2

      Yeah that one slaps

    • @Heksensang
      @Heksensang Год назад +7

      Bone Palace Ballet was one of my favorites as a neon band tee wearing scene kid but I have Alls Well That Ends Well in my car & it’s in regular rotation with DGD - Downtown Battle Mountain. The Words Best Friend Become Redefined & There’s No Penguins in Alaska are straight crack no one can tell me otherwise. I missed out on both of these albums as young buck but I can’t get enough of them nowadays.

    • @MikeHoncho610
      @MikeHoncho610 Год назад +1

      No, no it wasn’t.

    • @zvchobag
      @zvchobag Год назад +3

      @@MikeHoncho610 ehhh opinions ya know?

    • @zvchobag
      @zvchobag Год назад +3

      @@Heksensang I can’t really listen to that first album. But Penguins goes harddd

  • @mokaskun
    @mokaskun Год назад +68

    About Enter Shikari's Mothership song, the music video is from the EP version of the song. When they released the first album (Take To The Skies), they re-released the song with better quality overall. Also, Rou Reynolds, improved a lot in his clean vocals and you can notice that in the following albums. I think they have a big fanbase because of 2 main reasons: Their live shows and the fact that they add influences from a lot of subgenres in their songs. For example, the first album is a lot post-hardcore however their third album has a lot of dubstep/DnB influences. Overall, they're a great band! :D

    • @mcfleury
      @mcfleury Год назад +7

      Totally, that updated version of Mothership fucking rips

    • @mokaskun
      @mokaskun Год назад +3

      @@mcfleury Yeah the 1st album version is like 1000x times better than the EP version. The thing is, the EP has the music video so there's that

    • @murrayisarobot
      @murrayisarobot Год назад

      He knows this, he's done this many times, people comment the same things every time. He reads every comment. You took the bait hook, line and sinker.

    • @diejobWHO
      @diejobWHO Год назад

      Don't bother. Finn is already famous for his willful ignorance and worse preferences.

    • @mcfleury
      @mcfleury Год назад

      @@diejobWHO lol what

  • @kylevetsch4181
    @kylevetsch4181 Год назад +20

    Hold the phone. Finn how’re you going to say I See Stars pioneered their sound when Enter Shikari has been around for way longer and are the true pioneers of that sound?????
    I am offended

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  Год назад +5

      Shikari fans are rough stuff!!!

    • @lenab5266
      @lenab5266 Год назад +7

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA It's not the fans being rough when they correct you when you don't have the facts straight. It's ok that you don't like them because it's not your taste or whatever. But please don't talk bs about them based on one of their first demo song of them from 17 years ago.

  • @ethanrummel7638
    @ethanrummel7638 Год назад +10

    I saw Sleeping With Sirens in a tiny venue in Denver a month or so ago. Kellin's vocals live are actually amazing. Dude is an S tier vocalist for his style. In the world of scene bands I don't think it got bigger or more important than them.
    Also, really needed to include Pierce the Veil. Massively popular at one point, and still makes pretty ok stuff.

  • @derekberry1399
    @derekberry1399 Год назад +36

    Def need a part 2. Need devil's wears Prada, a skylit drive, underoath, dance Gavin dance, I set my friends on fire, scary kids scaring kids, Saosin, and maybe chunk no captain chunk

    • @atvena
      @atvena Год назад

      Blood on the dancefloor and skip the foreplay

  • @charlesfairs1427
    @charlesfairs1427 Год назад +36

    I like Enter Shikari, I'm not a huge stan or anything, but it really does seem unfair to play an actual demo version of a song instead of the album version and then for the drip critique pick a picture of them ten years after the scene movement was over lol, they never had a chance here

    • @volcanope
      @volcanope Год назад +4

      This is just for comedic purposes though

    • @babykittyprincess
      @babykittyprincess Год назад +10

      I totally agree! He always hates on them so badly

    • @lil8iTcH
      @lil8iTcH Год назад +6

      Yeah same with chiodos. He played one song and called them bad as a whole. Is that the joke or something?

    • @sawyerlachance1300
      @sawyerlachance1300 Год назад +3

      Enter Shikari might be the least consistent band I can think of, but when they’re good they are GOOD. Rat Race is probably the best electronicore song I’ve ever heard.

    • @kylevetsch4181
      @kylevetsch4181 Год назад +2

      Enter Shikari is a band that sounds significantly better live then they do on album.

  • @tomlaird1509
    @tomlaird1509 Год назад +28

    Damn man - rating Enter Shikari on a 2006 EP version of a song they recorded when they were like 16? You really need to give them an actual listen - one of the most interesting bands out there. They're always mixing genres and changing their sound. In the UK alt scene, I'd argue they're just as big as BMTH.

    • @Ravelle17
      @Ravelle17 Год назад +1

      📣 say it again for the people in the back 📣

    • @ryuman757
      @ryuman757 Год назад

      And that first album is a 👏 mother 👏 fucking 👏 masterpiece. Like wtf Mothership sounds INSANE on the studio album. The demo is fucking incredible if you listen to it in the context of a bunch of teens blasting out a better song than most modern metal music, and hearing how they progressed with their sound. I thought that's how everyone treated the history of music, but I guess not, lol. I don't understand the hate for Enter Shikari at all. But I haven't been good at trusting BMTH fans, cause they always seem childish AF 🤣🤣

    • @berightback_
      @berightback_ Год назад

      He showed his fucking ignorance towards the band in other videos. In my opinion, he somehow dislikes them being from Europe. Obviously didn't even check all their works in time and now reviews it as 'scene' band while they were always on their own

  • @speedzonefilms
    @speedzonefilms Год назад +18

    Enter Shikari was doing the synth sound before attack attack and i see stars. Devin Oliver of ISS said they were sound inspired by Shikari!

    • @NRDSHT
      @NRDSHT Год назад

      RIGHT! I thought I knew this, but wasn't sure if I made it up....

    • @PedroHenrique-mj1mn
      @PedroHenrique-mj1mn Год назад

      @@crmn182 spot on.

  • @kylehale1688
    @kylehale1688 Год назад +12

    Will forever bum me out that one of my favorite music channels to watch shits on Shikari whenever they are brought up. You like what you like though, so I get it. Keep up the good work, Finn!

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  Год назад +4

      Thanks! It's really interesting to me that Enter Shikari of all bands has such a punishing fanbase in 2022. Would have never seen that coming

    • @sawyerlachance1300
      @sawyerlachance1300 Год назад +3

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA It's the nerd factor honestly. Late-career Enter Shikari has a very sci-fi feel and plenty of r/iamverysmart sounding lyrics. (Sometimes they're actually pretty brilliant, but just as often they're empty and pretentious.) And we all know how butthurt nerds can be when you don't like their favorite things.

    • @keyser2379
      @keyser2379 Год назад +6

      Huge here still in the UK. They played a MASSIVE influence in the scene

    • @kylehale1688
      @kylehale1688 Год назад

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA I think part of it is nostalgia. Their first album dropped in 07 so anybody who has been listening to them since then will start grabbing pitchforks whenever someone else doesn't like them. Definitely not a band for everyone but I will say the live shows are a blast

    • @berightback_
      @berightback_ Год назад

      @@kylehale1688 definitely not. Each of their album is outstanding and bring something new but also holds connection with previous works. Fresh fans are brought in with every release and collab so new auditory nowadays may not even know from where it all started. The reason for such strong defense from fanbase is just because the band does each step in art/communication/commerce absolutely right

  • @joshhale9355
    @joshhale9355 Год назад +8

    I’m here to get irrationally angry about opinions on bands I listened to 10-15 years ago!

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  Год назад +4

      You and everybody else

    • @joshhale9355
      @joshhale9355 Год назад

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA thank you for including FTSK, that’s a hometown band for me and I love those guys. Should’ve been way bigger.

  • @alexandermoshenko4416
    @alexandermoshenko4416 Год назад +18

    Finn I'm confused why you give Millionairez a pass when the Enter Shikari song you played was from like 2007 when they were p much kids too, they are pretty influential as far as the UK scene goes, highly recommend their album A Flash Flood Of Colour

    • @rosiehaircolor2299
      @rosiehaircolor2299 Год назад

      UK scene is irrelevant

    • @alexandermoshenko4416
      @alexandermoshenko4416 Год назад +5

      @@rosiehaircolor2299 cringe take

    • @rosiehaircolor2299
      @rosiehaircolor2299 Год назад

      @@alexandermoshenko4416 sorry Alex, European music is cringe

    • @alexandermoshenko4416
      @alexandermoshenko4416 Год назад +5

      @@rosiehaircolor2299 then why is so much music nowadays trying to replicate the UK punk, European disco, and alt rock/electronic? How many bands sound like Radiohead 20 years after Ok Computer and Kid A? Like I said, cringe take.

    • @alexandermoshenko4416
      @alexandermoshenko4416 Год назад +2

      @@rosiehaircolor2299 even if we take this into completely modern standards, the UK drill scene has been hugely influential to hip hop over the past few years, pop smoke bringing it to New York was a huge moment for that scene, it's a really cringe take and requires no thought whatsoever, just agreeing with the author for a pat on the back

  • @keyser2379
    @keyser2379 Год назад +8

    That one DRUGS album was way better than anything he released with Chiodos imo

    • @No-sr5fb
      @No-sr5fb Год назад

      He actually just did a second drugs album in case you havent heard it yet

  • @BigOwl51
    @BigOwl51 Год назад +37

    Never forget that Boys Like Girls were able to get a Taylor Swift feature on just their second album. That’s how big this kind of music was at the time.
    Edit: surprised you didn’t mention blood on the dance floor. They needed their own category below F tier

  • @rkt6240
    @rkt6240 Год назад +39

    We need vol 2. You need to rank bands like Brokencyde and the medic droid

    • @kylehale1688
      @kylehale1688 Год назад +7

      I still pop on 'Fer Sure' every now and then, such a classic scene song

    • @inxinfate
      @inxinfate Год назад

      and dotdotcurve!

    • @packnetadaija
      @packnetadaija Год назад +1

      @@kylehale1688 I just relistened to that song after like 10-ish years and I instantly remembered it 😂😂

    • @nicolasbaker9601
      @nicolasbaker9601 Год назад +1

      I think he ranked them on a Crunk core/ MySpace tier list alongside millionaires🤣

  • @ChrisCoignet
    @ChrisCoignet Год назад +6

    "Nobody in this band weighs over like 110lbs"
    I nominate this quote for funniest Finn comment of 2022 LMFAOOOO. I didn't even realize it until you made this comment but that was totally a thing wasn't it?!?? I'm pretty sure Vic Fuentes (PTV) is STILL 110lbs 🤣

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  Год назад +4

      My wife and I call them "band-sized" because the guys in all those bands were so tiny!

    • @ChrisCoignet
      @ChrisCoignet Год назад +1

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA 😂😂😂 that's freakin hilarious

  • @satan666reincarnate
    @satan666reincarnate Год назад +6

    You've gotta do Black Veil Brides and Falling In Reverse (early)/ Escape The Fate!! The era where Ronnie looked like Joan Jett had kids going wild

  • @TarttelinGamer
    @TarttelinGamer Год назад +7

    I love you Finn, But i can never agree with you about Enter Shikari!

  • @danfromthevan
    @danfromthevan Год назад +8

    Attack attack literally had a song called what happens if I can’t check my MySpace when we get there

  • @jamesbradford870
    @jamesbradford870 Год назад +7

    It's funny that emo, screamo, post-hardcore, electronicore, myspace metalcore/deathcore kids all pretty much had the same drip back then. The flat-ironed hair to one side, the slim-fit t-shirts and skinny jeans, studded belts and all the million different accessories, the cut off slim fit shorts, vans/converse, etc. What a time.. I liked more of the heavier shit but def got into some peak emo-scene bands.. Underoath, Pierce The Veil, Dance Gavin Dance, Emarosa, Isles & Glaciers, Saosin, Circa Survive, Scaring Kids Scaring Kids, etc.

    • @atvena
      @atvena Год назад

      Very well said right in the pocket

  • @hotpiss6620
    @hotpiss6620 Год назад +4

    why are there 7 people in Woe Is Me? I missed a lot of this era I guess, but I'm just confused about what 1-3 members do... sneaky trombone solos?

    • @hotpiss6620
      @hotpiss6620 Год назад

      I'm disappointed you didn't choose just got paid for millionaires but yeah, they were S tier

  • @user-ni7ui7hs8c
    @user-ni7ui7hs8c Год назад +8

    Say what you will about Creg Owens but he single handedly introduced throat tattoos to the scene lol

  • @sonicsforrealfather
    @sonicsforrealfather Год назад +20

    I think it’d be cool if Finn did a deeper dive, if not a short vid on this channel, of Enter Shikari. Their older stuff is rough at times, but they’re are not as bad as he says they are. Common Dreads, Flash Flood Of Color, and Mindsweep are great albums

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  Год назад +9

      Really underwhelming band across the board. Their fans are RABID!

    • @sonicsforrealfather
      @sonicsforrealfather Год назад

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA are they really? I don't interact, just listen so I didn't know that. shame

    • @oops6876
      @oops6876 Год назад

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA nahh, FFoC & Mindsweep definitely fuck

    • @spencerjew2362
      @spencerjew2362 Год назад

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA They may be my favourite band but absolutely agree about the fans, absolute nightmare 100% and even though you're playing them at their worst for sure, doesn't mean I think you'd like the rest of their music except for maybe the album the spark

    • @chadhenry961
      @chadhenry961 Год назад

      @@spencerjew2362 Finn would hate the spark too cause half of it is post punk, and he does not like post punk

  • @McYates24
    @McYates24 Год назад +3

    Oh boy you need to be learnt on Enter Shikari's music that came after.... showing their most rough and earliest live stuff lmao...shame. You need to check out their album A Flash Flood of Colour.

  • @daydreamindaze
    @daydreamindaze Год назад +6

    I feel like you missed a lot of the really obvious ones from the early scene years and focused on a lot of the poppier stuff from the later years... Saosin, The Used, From First To Last, Hawthorne Heights, Story of the Year, Senses Fail, Silverstein, Drop Dead, Gorgeous, Alesana, Underoath, The Devil Wears Prada, Taking Back Sunday, Brand New, Circa Survive, Emery, Dance Gavin Dance, A.F.I., etc.

    • @JustJoshLTRB
      @JustJoshLTRB Год назад

      Not sure a lot of those actually fit scene bands. They're more the precursor to the scene and probably fit better into a separate category. Only ones I would include from your list is Alesana, DDG, DGD, and maybe/ probably Prada.

    • @dallasthekid1463
      @dallasthekid1463 Год назад

      🤘🤘

  • @DopeMaster-uv9cz
    @DopeMaster-uv9cz Год назад +4

    Attack Attack still got it. Seen them in Iowa City, my fatass two stepped to Stick Stickly and wished I had long hair again to constantly flip.

  • @IRLtrolls
    @IRLtrolls Год назад +7

    Blessthefal “Hollow bodies” is one of the best metalcore albums of all time and the billboard rankings shows it. Mediocre band but they nailed it on that album

    • @blacksunshine9995
      @blacksunshine9995 Год назад

      Their last album Hard Feelings was also a solid album. Not as heavy, but a perfect album for a late night drive. One of my favorite albums with no skips at all. Shame they haven't done anything since then.

  • @jroysoccer
    @jroysoccer Год назад +10

    Glad Evansville, Indiana scene got some love! Some of the best memories of the late 2000s were going to Boney Junes music venue.
    There was always great local music, but getting to see WCAR, Emarosa, For Today, and others before they got bigger was amazing to see.

    • @sentientcardboarddumpster7900
      @sentientcardboarddumpster7900 Год назад +2

      The Attic in Dayton, OH had an awesome run as a venue also

    • @NobStop
      @NobStop Год назад +1

      Evansville 👑🙌🙌👑

    • @tylerelliott6774
      @tylerelliott6774 Год назад +2

      I miss Boney Junes so much dude.

    • @jroysoccer
      @jroysoccer Год назад

      @@tylerelliott6774 me too! There was never any other venue in that area with as much impact.

    • @jroysoccer
      @jroysoccer Год назад

      @@sentientcardboarddumpster7900 been to the attic a couple times! Sweet venue. Always good bands passing through there

  • @tooruoikawa8985
    @tooruoikawa8985 Год назад +5

    I actually love Chiodos Alls Wells that Ends well. It’s a great album for what it is. The tracks never followed a specific format until later on I liked guitar work too. I’m definitely a chiodos stan for AWTEW album lol

  • @SoundAsleepSpace
    @SoundAsleepSpace Год назад +4

    The 3 bands I like on here the most musically is Breathe Carolina, Boys like girls and Enter Shikari. Unfortunately you were too tough on them especially Enter Shikari. I recommend giving them another closer look if you wished.

  • @17TheTwister
    @17TheTwister Год назад +3

    How you gonna use my man JJ Demon in the first picture in this video and not even rank his scene era of music? Lol, so funny seein him like that. Good shit man!

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  Год назад +4

      Omg that was him?? Forgot all about him

    • @17TheTwister
      @17TheTwister Год назад

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA yeah! That was him lol. Just oozing scene vibes haha. One of the only good scene rappers back then though. Always fun to see him out in the wild so to speak 😛

  • @dunkarooni4135
    @dunkarooni4135 Год назад +8

    Breathe Carolina is really the only remnant of my scene days that I still regularly listen to. Their first album It's Classy, Not Classic is one of my favorite albums ever, to this day. It blended atmospheric trance, pop, and screaming in a way that I still haven't heard anyone come close to (despite still desperately looking for, please let me know if you know of anything).
    Hello Fascination was a good sweet spot between the neon pop stuff and post hardcore and most of the album was super catchy IMO. Hell is What You Make It was decent, they started to really lean into the whole party/pop side of their music. Then Kyle left the band and I just didn't care for anything afterward, and could care less about their DJ stuff honestly.
    I'm still dying for something like their debut album though.

    • @jasonking971
      @jasonking971 Год назад +3

      I love it. Still jam to a few of their songs

    • @ottawanuck6048
      @ottawanuck6048 Год назад +2

      I was hooked when I heard that first 6 song ep and sadly never found anything like that ep again

    • @jasonking971
      @jasonking971 Год назад

      @@ottawanuck6048 ya they changed their style dramatically. But so many of those bands from that short Era did.

  • @kokorolex
    @kokorolex Год назад +8

    Still listen to Digital Renegade and Attack Attack's first album, no cap they're hood classics.
    And also anyone remember Destroy Rebuild Until God Shows? They were really good.

    • @clarkwilson9520
      @clarkwilson9520 Год назад +4

      They actually just released a new album, haven't heard it myself yet but I assume it's solid

    • @jeremystephenson627
      @jeremystephenson627 Год назад

      Destroy rebuild is back going strong

  • @zackwyrmblood
    @zackwyrmblood Год назад +4

    My band was A skylit drive. Adelphia is a solid 10/10 and still to this day one of my favorite albums.

  • @MeetLocalSingles
    @MeetLocalSingles Год назад +3

    Look at all us die hard Shikari stans crawling out of the woodwork. You knew this was coming Finn, there is still time to come clean that you secretly love them too.
    Apologise to the 🔻

  • @NorthWestEnduro
    @NorthWestEnduro Год назад +4

    Enter Shikari used to be so good live back in the day!

  • @emilionavarrete5169
    @emilionavarrete5169 Год назад +3

    No Pierce the Veil? :(

  • @gmm213
    @gmm213 Год назад +4

    In defense of Enter Shikari, I personally loved them because they were the first band i heard that had that heavy edm sound that I love

  • @c_wrd
    @c_wrd Год назад +8

    I’m sure i’m biased towards Enter Shikari because i’m English, but Take To The Skies is a bloody banger of an album. I agree the clip in this video of Mothership isn’t amazing, but a number of songs on that album like Labyrinth and Johnny Sniper are objectively good songs. I saw them a few times between 2007 and 2009 and the energy and intensity of their live performances was really something to behold!

    • @anthonyhertlein4629
      @anthonyhertlein4629 Год назад

      Idc dude I'm almost 30 and take to the skies is still one of my favorite albums. It's objectively rough but they have a sound that I haven't heard anyone else come close to replicating since.

  • @Maximus_W
    @Maximus_W Год назад +4

    There needs to be a Scene Exhibit in a museum somewhere

    • @midnighttrain7844
      @midnighttrain7844 Год назад

      well. at least a documentary film like those in metal and hardcore

  • @StonyBlazestation
    @StonyBlazestation Год назад +4

    10:23 I prefer to call it the "Bob Barker."

  • @boxkid759
    @boxkid759 Год назад +5

    Chiodos is A tier sorry

  • @joshf2218
    @joshf2218 13 дней назад

    I remember seeing a show that Sleeping with Sirens opened for and calling them Sleeping With Men really loudly before realizing the front man was sitting right in front of me

  • @intencities5301
    @intencities5301 Год назад +3

    Bruh, Chiodos' Bone Palace Ballet album is masterclass

  • @angelaaltman864
    @angelaaltman864 Год назад +14

    When I was in my early thirties and listening to what was called alternative rock, I didn't realize that I was an emo or a scene kid 😆

  • @JimboEM
    @JimboEM Год назад +5

    If you want a full breakdown of the history of Woe Is Me and Issues, go check out The Cozy Representative! He made a few videos on their history!

  • @hamm8934
    @hamm8934 Год назад +7

    Number[s] complete lack of chorus is why I think it stands the test of time and was so successful.
    By the time it came out, scene metalcore song structure of breakdown clean chorus repeat was so boring and over done. Number[s] was so refreshing because of that. TBH I think the ridged song structure of metalcore is still a major element that is holding back the genre. It’s so bland going from breakdown to clean chorus over and over. Change it up.
    Also, Vengeance by then might be one of the best scene metalcore songs released. Aside from some questionable EQ production choices, the song is amazing and stands the test of time.

  • @jwg-ant
    @jwg-ant Год назад +2

    Thanks for introducing me to Chiodos this stuff absolutely smacks love it

  • @bradleykramer316
    @bradleykramer316 Год назад +1

    so happy to see Forever The Sickest Kids, especially "My Worst Nightmare" love. I gave myself whiplash head-banging to that song.

  • @juliendidelot
    @juliendidelot Год назад +1

    Thanks to you I discovered many new bands again and I will take a closer look. Thank you Finn! And I'm up for a second volume. 👌🏻

  • @6slayer6sam62
    @6slayer6sam62 Год назад +1

    Hey Finn...got on Craigslist (in Louisville) and there's a limp bizkit cover band called bimp lizkit, looking for their wes borland....thought you might wanna check it out lmfao. They're outta Dayton so maybe try that cl too.

  • @henryhaskin9012
    @henryhaskin9012 Год назад +2

    After seeing this list I really want to know what Finn thinks of This Romantic Tragedy, specifically the song the worst part is waking up

  • @alexjaffe1950
    @alexjaffe1950 Год назад

    The shade you threw in the mugshot statement, was awesome!

  • @emobassist
    @emobassist Год назад +3

    As an all time low fan i can say they absolutely love their fans they are just a goofy band

  • @aotphixion
    @aotphixion 8 месяцев назад +2

    watched a video of enter shikari from 15 years ago but then judged them on their look from 2023 lol

  • @zakkmiller8242
    @zakkmiller8242 7 месяцев назад

    I graduated highschool in 2010 in a city 30 minutes south of Evansville, IN. I grew up playing in all those scene synth bands at Boney Junes and The Brothers Pizza in my hometown Owensboro, KY. The scene we had for those few years was absolutely crazy if you were a scene kid. We had hordes of neon kids overrunning the malls and those local venues. Looking back it seems so cringe but holy fk were those some amazing times. Thanks for the nostalgia Finn!!

  • @dozerjohn
    @dozerjohn Год назад +11

    Funny how I mocked the early era of "scene" as a hardcore elitist but nowadays I appreciate a lot of those tunes. Them kids were onto something there but just looked so ridiculous none of us bothered to listen to the music.

    • @jcfontaine0017
      @jcfontaine0017 Год назад +4

      It's good thing I was 12-13 and highly impressionable when I found these bands lmao

    • @dozerjohn
      @dozerjohn Год назад +2

      @@jcfontaine0017 Oh lol this reminds me how a concerned coworker brought me some drawings of her 13 yo daughter depicting emo boys and ask me if this was satanism hahaha, you guys did well!

    • @Lora2788
      @Lora2788 Год назад

      Nice to hear your opinion changed!

    • @dozerjohn
      @dozerjohn Год назад

      @@Lora2788 bro, gen z calls me elder emo now so I had to hahahah

    • @Lora2788
      @Lora2788 Год назад +1

      @@dozerjohn 🤣🤣 oh dear!

  • @PiccoloBeats
    @PiccoloBeats Год назад +2

    This was so ridiculously entertaining. Thank you so much for making this tier list! Super nostalgic. I hope you do more of these in the future. There are tons of cringy groups/people from that era to rank.

  • @twi11y_
    @twi11y_ Год назад +2

    Nah, you totally nailed it with All Time Low. I met them one time at a show here and they were big douche bags. Alex and Jack were insufferable to even shake hands with. But I have to give big credit to Rian, their drummer. He talked to my friends and I for like half an hour at a bar after their show and was super down to earth and absolutely nothing like the other two. He didn't exude that pompous "I'm a rockstar" attitude that they did

  • @areuouthere2103
    @areuouthere2103 Год назад +1

    Awesome video. I love this era of music, super scene fan. Saw summer set at sad summer fest and it was awesome. So many memorable warped tours.

  • @randomgirlsthoughts
    @randomgirlsthoughts Год назад +1

    For a scene list i feel like you missed some big players. Pierce the veil, of mice and men, we came as romans, bmth, asking Alexandria.
    Also I've heard more about dot dot curve just by watching a few videos of yours than I have in my entire life.

  • @Woostock13
    @Woostock13 Год назад +2

    My scene band taste is so different from yours lol. Chiodos and Craig-Era Blessthefall >>>

    • @Woostock13
      @Woostock13 Год назад

      I don't even have any nostalgia for Enter Shikari, somehow missed them completely back in the day, but I like the way the off-key vocals sound.

  • @MyExtraman
    @MyExtraman Год назад +2

    All your criticism of Enter Shikari is right, but that's always why they slap. unironically awesome live though.

  • @JustinProper
    @JustinProper Год назад +2

    This was really fun to see live!

  • @lexidarling
    @lexidarling Год назад +5

    It always does blow my mind that Christofer Drew was so young when he started. Super talented guy, and Eatmewhileimhot was dope too. I saw Never Shout Never at Warped in 2015 and it was a super fun time.

    • @kokorolex
      @kokorolex Год назад +1

      I remember when Bryan Stars interviewed them a second time and Drew made him cry 🤣

  • @vasilis1380
    @vasilis1380 Год назад +2

    I feel like a part of the reason I loved the raw out of tune screamo garbage that had some synth was the same reason I liked dubstep when it first emerged, it’s just different and new and exciting. Looking back though ..😬

  • @jcook693
    @jcook693 Год назад +1

    I love how finn unabashedly bases his most favorites on if he has a personal connection to them

  • @zacharywende1553
    @zacharywende1553 Год назад +1

    Finn always bringing up the Enter Shikari album even Enter Shikari hates and then says they have "Some Sucess"

  • @davidgarvin1889
    @davidgarvin1889 Год назад +1

    The enter shikari slander is unforgivable

  • @bennypaddycake7182
    @bennypaddycake7182 Год назад +1

    it's weird that people are getting butthurt of finn saying their favorite bands sucks and have ugly style when it's his opinion

  • @user-iv8bu7lv2e
    @user-iv8bu7lv2e 5 месяцев назад +1

    Pt 2 Features Asking Alexandria, Issues,A Day To Remember,Bullet-for-my-valentine,Attila and more...

  • @superchickeny7
    @superchickeny7 Год назад +2

    Enter shikari is objectively good

  • @orbitplagues7752
    @orbitplagues7752 Год назад +5

    real disappointed that Asking Alexandria and BMTH were not on this list smh.

    • @atomicpunk2360
      @atomicpunk2360 Год назад +1

      Anything less than S tier, especially in BMTH’s case, would be utter blasphemy

  • @andrewemerson1613
    @andrewemerson1613 Год назад +1

    damn, it says a lot when you're still hot in your mug shot

  • @toallthecrowdedrooms283
    @toallthecrowdedrooms283 Год назад +3

    Chiodos f tier???? The fuck lol

  • @drew_clem
    @drew_clem Год назад +1

    Enter Shikari's Take to the Skies full length is a journey.
    Love it

  • @MrCaquita23
    @MrCaquita23 Год назад

    That Millonaires music video looks like those videos my older cousin Alexandra and her friends used to record for their Facebook profiles back in 2010 lol

  • @xacarreon21
    @xacarreon21 Год назад +1

    YOURE wrong about all time low, I met them at a meet and greet after their Back to the Future Hearts tour and they were all such cool genuine guys like they took their time talking to all of their fans, especially Ryan he was talking to me and my ex and he was just like “I really hope you all enjoyed the show, I wish the stage was a little bigger so we could’ve had our whole stage setup” they also signed a bunch of stuff for us too and took silly selfies and stuff

  • @superchickeny7
    @superchickeny7 Год назад +2

    Do a drain/hyperpop/cloudrap vid

  • @candicecutthroat
    @candicecutthroat Год назад +2

    The deep V henley 💀

  • @RoTheCrow
    @RoTheCrow Год назад +3

    Vol. 2 please!!!! I'm shocked you didn't include BVB or Asking Alexandria.