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‘Terrifying’ clashes and dueling campus protests amid Israel-Hamas war
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- Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2023
- Dueling protests and violent antisemitic threats have created fear on U.S. college campuses as the Israel-Hamas war continues. Yola Ashkenazie, Amanda Silberstein and Bella Ingber join to discuss what they're experiencing first-hand as students.
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Not liking what Israelis do to civilian Palestinians is not antisemitism.
Agree... but saying death to all Jews is unacceptable and DISGUSTING!!! And if that's what palastinians think...then they're o better than hamas and should be treated as such 🇯🇴🇮🇱🇺🇦
You’re right. That’s not what’s happening on campuses. College groups are standing with Hamas. They are saying Israel has no right to exist.
@@eldenringer6466 We are just fine with Muslims in concentration camps, but take issue with threatening Jewish people?
I have no intentions of supporting your ignorance and hate.
I sometimes wonder why my Jewish friends always have the notion that; once a person disagrees with certain policy or actions by Israel. You're labeled antisemitic. Which is not the case. We can all agree to disagree. While recognizing Israel's right to exist. Atrocities against the Palestinian people is quite a different kettle of fish.😢
@@rebeccalaff853 [Jews] aren't Semitic.
What do you expect? The agencies involved in the middle-east conflict have conflated Israel with Judaism, and Palestine with Hamas...to cynically polarize the situation.
Exactly
What do I expect? On RUclips, I expect to see a whole lot of bluster coming from folks who haven't quite grasped that there has never, ever been an independent state of Palestine making some kind of equivalency as to why it's okay to harass Jewish people because Israel. But you got your 11 likes which must mean that you're super duper smart. Thank you, Algorithms, for making antisemitism so hip and hep.
Including the very pundit speaking. Just conflate anti-Israel (tactics and war crimes) to antisemitism and viola' you have sympathy for a nation state engaging in horrific acts of violence towards innocent civilians because...
They are pro Hamas. They will tell you to your face if you have the balls to ask.
@@marijuasherget an education. Zionists actively ran Palestinians off their property and stole it 75 years ago. Israeli settlers are STILL murdering and robbing Palestinians and depriving them of their civil rights...what sort of reponse did anyone expect?
In 1975 I was a student at Stony Brook university in Long Island. There was a support for Palestine rally at the student union, and I went to listen to the speakers , in an attempt to understand the positions of the people attending the rally. During the presentations I was standing listening when I noticed a previous speaker ,and I engaged her in a conversation! I specially asked her, if she felt as I do, that in the end the only way to have peace in the region was for both sides to abandon violence, and work together towards the establishments of a two state solution. At that moment her faced turned into a portrait of hate, and she screamed at me, less than a few inches from my face, screaming” the only answer is the complete elimination of Israel and it’s people “. I stared at her asking that was not an option, in my eyes, where were the Israelis , who had a legitimate claim on the land, historically to go? She became even more angry and screamed, they all need to be exterminated. I had never encountered such open irrational hatred in my life! I was in S shock. I thought about her response, and calmly said,I was sympathetic to both sides, and asked, “even the children”?
She exploded and replied even babies. I never forgot that day!
thanks for the story and i will Pray for you and All the innocent. You will be my people and I your Lord"
SURPRISED ? NOT !!!
I see the rhetoric from Israeli government calling for complete genocide of Palestinians, the Israeli government has far rig wingers and even a member who is classified as a terrorist. The Israeli government not so long ago involuntarily sterilize black Jewish woman in Israel because they want to keep the israel less black. Now I hope you have that same energy you seem to have had in 1975 for 2023 with what israel is doing. Antisemitism but they can't call out the evil rhetoric from Israel....think this girl is upset because the world is seeing israel for what it is. During apartheid israel gave guns for the apartheid government of South africa to oppress me and my fellow south Africans. Palestine stood with us during apartheid and the same things they saying now is what was said about people of colour in south africa 🇿🇦...POC know the story and we know the lines and lies and how the propaganda works. We not fooled
Some more must watch videos:
(1) SO, WHAT DID THE MUSLIMS DO FOR THE JEWS, BY BLOGGING THEOLOGY.
(2) ISRAELIS : DID YOU KNOW THAT JEWS WERE SAFER UNDER ISLAM THAN IN EUROPE?, BY COREY GIL-SHUSTER.
(3) WHY DID AN IRANIAN MUSLIM SAVE JEWS IN THE HOLOCAUST, BY UNPACKED.
Thank you again and may the One True Creator increase us all in knowledge and understanding.
Peace!!!
PALESTINE MUST BE FREE 🇵🇸
And they feel this way today. They put their own babies in harms way and blame the jews
There were 1,400 who died on October 7th in the abhorrent attacks, and she says that every Israeli knows someone effected directly by it. But then there have been 9,922+ Palestinians killed along with 26,000+ injured since then, so how many Palestinians do you think know someone directly affected? 4,880 children have been killed by this government in their indiscriminate bombings of civilians. Two wrongs do not make a right so stop acting like what this government is doing is ok.
There didn't seem to be any sympathy for the Palestinian lives that was lost. All I heard was the loss the Jews suffered. There are two sides to this story and these young ladies didn't seem to realize that, very disappointing. There was no push back from the host.
THE PALESTINIANS DIED AS A RESULT OF HAMAS, PALESTINIANS THEMSEKVES, AND THEIR FALSE "RELIGION" OF ISKAM!
Stop propagating Hams fake numbers
There are 49-50 thousand Hamas operatives in Gaza. There is no Free Press in Gaza. The numbers you are hearing are from Hamas. The same group who blamed Israel for destroying a hospital and 500 deaths. The hospital was not destroyed, a misfired rocked from Islamic Jihad landed in the parking lot. If I hear there are 30K deaths in Gaza, I am going to assume almost all of those numbers are Hamas fighters.
Whoever you are, stop counting dead! Try a moment of love and empathy- these woman are in the US not Gaza. Focus on freeing Gaza from hamas if you love Palestinian people.
Stephanie: “To discuss the dueling clashes on this issue let’s talk to only one side.”
She's been insufferable on this issue.
Thank you, Sweet Baby Jesus for Mehdi Hassan! 🙂🙂
I saw interviews with Hamas officials where nobody complained. Ok, but make it two sided by commenting on the segments content.
@@danyelnicholas
The analog would be THREE muslim American female students or THREE Palestinians or THREE Jewish Voices for Peace.
stop with the false equivalences.
I don't watch the 11th really at all since bibi started his war in Gaza...
Anti-Semitism is wrong, but bringing on Jewish students to air out grievances about their experience on campus while babies are getting incinerated in refugee camps is tone deaf. I like Stephanie but this segment is a miss....
Antisemitism is cruel. Should be not “but”s here 💔
Imagine welcoming someone into your house for lunch only to find out they want to take your house and kick you out… we are seeing that in the west.
you mean west asia..
Fact!
This people don’t wanna understand the simple common sense!
Europeans. Go and replace indigenous people all over the world. History repeating in Real Time.
Um. Yeah. Didn't go down that way bub. Research the real history rather than accepting the drivel you've been fed.
wow person you imagined must be colonial lord of 1900s as they all went to all over to world for lunch and took other peoples houses
It's truly sad that this fight for the Palestinians is bringing up anti-Jewish remarks. This is a fight for them, not a chance to say mean things about the Jews. People around the world see how the Palestinians are being mistreated in Gaza and they are finally protesting against it!!! This has nothing to do with Jewish people.
Anti-Semitism up 400%
This is not a debate. This is just one side
Read the title. Its not a debate. A debate, you have to side. That could take 2 hour long. This is 18 min. You must be new to English title meaning.
You must not have actually watched the video
This isn't meant to be a debate. You simply have an agenda.
Because you don't want to hear from stinking Jews, amiright?
@@aceboogisback9946the only agenda is these girls and all Jews are the only victims
I was looking forward to hearing a moderated debate between passionate young people, and no one should ever be inundated with hate speech or threatened with violence. But these ladies are equating anyone who questions the Israeli government, with being anti-Semetic. They are not the same thing and we’ve painted ourselves into a very dangerous corner when making that claim. Because what’s being asked by that is to allow the far-right, fundamentalist leadership in Israel (their equivalent to Donald Trump), to not be held accountable for their actions - ever. The world is not going for that nonsense, that’s the talk of dictators. Israel has the right to live peacefully and thrive within the territory last agreed upon, I believe that was in 1967. Palestinians deserve to live peacefully with sovereignty and equal standing in the world as Israel within the territory that was agreed upon. No more bombing, no more control, each country living and mixing their own business. But, neither the IDF nor Hamas want a win-win, both sides only care about having it all for themselves. I dare these young women to go to Gaza, feel firsthand the fear the Palestinian children and young face every day.
Have you ever been to Israel? They are talking about people supporting Hamas. Nothing to do with Israeli politics or supporting their equivalent to Trump. Hamas just massacred civilians in their homes and at a festival. There is no room to talk about making peace with a terrorist group. The talk of dictators is coming from Hamas and pro- Palestinians when they chant "From the River to the Sea". You need a history lesson.
Please, there's a reason Egypt won't allow people from Gaza into their territory, even before this latest conflict. Your little 'think of the children' cliche holds little weight when those same children are celebrating dead Jewish people being drug through the streets of Gaza. Israel had to build one of the most advanced anti missile systems in the world because of the relentless attacks from it's neighbors for decades, yet you want everyone to sing Kumbaya and live in peace? Get a clue.
@bevin-writer you are so misinformed on this subject, you might as well be looking for a Starbucks on Mars.
That's not going to happen. It would be scorched-earth if they had to leave their bubbles en masse.
These arr all lies. They took people who had not lived there for hundred if not thousands of years and dropped them in another people's land where they killed thousand and drove them out of their homes into the surrounding countries. Then took their land and made them minorities intheir own country. The USA armed them to the teeth and gave them advanced weapons and training and built them up while simultaneously destabilizing, invading, sabotaging,destoying, and economically controlling the middle eastern countries around them through Isreal. This is America's Trojan horse in the middle east and anyone with common sense can see this Killing Omar Gaddafi, propping up Sudaam, invading Iraq, playing part in the Syrian crisis, plans against Qatar, trying to destroy Iran, and the list goes on even into bordering Africa. No they are not innocent and any well educated people know this that's why colleges are in turmoil over this Palestinian holocaust. No the surrounding countries do not want to accept a people with no home because they will want to make their home wherever they are settled into. They will not want to stay a homeless minority at the whim of another people's government. They will be a threat to those countries and take resources from their people who will fight back. No Palestinians should have their own land, government, resources and home just like any other people period.
How can anyone condone a genocide in real time on international TV?
Which attempted genocide?
Israel of Hamas or Hamas of Israel ( and it is boldly & plainly PUBLISHED in their Charter)?
No difference.
One side seems to winning, but each side is attempting to "exterminate"
she is NOT shocked by deaths of 8000 innocent civilians?
Nope. Those are just "human animals" not real people to zionists.
Numbers made up by Hamas, another bot account.
@@foto21 The numbers come from the health ministry, international organizations have trusted their accounts for decades. All of the sudden those same exact sources are untrustworthy?
And is your point that civilians aren't getting killed in Gaza? Israel has dropped more bombs on that tiny strip of land with 2 million people on it than America did in whole years of fighting in Afghanistan.
12000 civilians according to Hamas press bureau ...
Why is every criticism of the conduct of Israel always called antisemitism?Yes what Hamas did was deplorable and should be condemned. But seeing thousands of children being pulled out from flattened buildings is equally disturbing. This explanation those children are being used as human shields is insulting.
There is a difference between criticism and violent attacks on people and threats nade against them.
I think your comment is knowingly dishonest.
Hamas Is using fellow Palestinians as human shields, set off a bomb to scare Palestinians away from the Egyptian entry point, and Hamas senior leaders took refuge in the most densely packed areas of Gazan refugee camps.
@@maskedmarvyl4774the land owner wants Palestine back all of it . Leave before the big death.
The zionist agenda funded WW2...
@@WALEEDALHABER1 , I wish I could understand your statement.
@@maskedmarvyl4774 The same was said about both the innocent Irish Catholics in West Belfast and the black South Africans who lived in slums where the ANC's armed wing operated under the command of Nelson Mandela.
When a young Irish Catholic boy got blinded by the rubber bullet of a British army soldier because they were a 'human shield' for the IRA, it was just as wrong as a bomb dropped on the house of a Palestinian in Gaza. Civilians are not targets and any army worth its salt should distinguish between the two
Where was this passion for the people of Gaza for the last 50 years
There should not be anti-Semitism any more than there should be Islamaphobia.
Anti-Semitism up 400% but JOEY B. is getting Kamala study Islama phovia. Obama released $250 BILLION with a B to Iran. Joe & Barack are real smart cookies. NOT
Grief for the atrocity of Oct. 7 is not mutually exclusive with empathy for the horrors in Gaza since Oct. 7. Can we stop one-siding this issue?
When are you people going to understand that the land it's cursed !!!!! it will not have peace EVER !!!
If you are discussing policy and the political situation, then there should be both sides - and a separation of Hamas responsibility in Gaza and Israel on the West Bank. But attacks on Jewish people for being Jewish has only one side - that it should not happen. Same when someone is attacked for being islamic. There is no other side to outright hatred.
There are plenty of news clips focused entirely on Palestinian suffering that don't mention Oct 7. You people snivel at anything that isn't 100% biased towards Palestinians. If Muslim students were getting attacked on campuses, would you jump into the comments "reminding" everyone how this isn't a "one-sided issue"? I don't think so.
@@themaskedman221 "You people snivel at anything that isn't 100% biased towards Palestinians."
Ad hominem attacks and straw man deflections are fallacious arguments frequently used as a defence mechanism by people too wilfully ignorant to know that they are falling victim to the Dunning-Kruger effect or too illiberal and arrogant to even try to understand new information if it could possibly challenge their narrative, no matter how verifiable the facts actually are. It's such an obvious thought ending cliché. Would it be so difficult for you to use skepticism to determine what verifiable facts contradict your assertion as well as those that support it so that you could then use logical reasoning to come to a conclusion instead of what your "feelz" or the genocide apologists keep telling you "must" be "common sense" that so very conveniently happens to support your narrative?
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
- Voltaire
The holocaust:
"If you hate something, don't you do it too.”
- Eddie Vedder "Not for You"
PS: "If Muslim students were getting attacked on campuses, would you jump into the comments "reminding" everyone how this isn't a "one-sided issue"? I ..."
When "Muslim" students start protesting in support of genocide, or in support of Oct7 instead of just autonomy for an occupied people or the end to bombing civilians, when "Jewish" students can point to their people being subjugated in a radicalization factory of political, economic, security and social oppression for literally 1/2 a century while under the constant threat of extra-judicial execution from the IDF, then MAYBE your wilfully ignorant false equivalency MIGHT have some very small applicability....
Non of the four people in this segment remotely did that. They talk about anti-semitism in the US .
The hate comes when you want to put your self at the centre of everything. When you say you are the only one to suffer while totally neglecting the sufferings of others.
That’s why Israel is so full of hate!
Bingo! And they don't comprehend how sociopathic that is because it's baked in to their [religion]. Lol
@@JLova82what religion are you talking about, Jesus was Jewish.
This is unacceptable. Students should go to university to learn, not make it a pulpit to support terrorist attacks.
Schumer is a great example of what's wrong with Washington DC 🙄
I’m alarmed by this piece. It really feels like it has really heavily leaned into the fallacy that criticizing Israel is the same as antisemitism. They are not the same thing. I want in the room listening to their professors, nor was I present at any of the protests that they’re referencing, so I take them at their word on those points. The threats of violence, the bomb threats, the professors becoming exhilarated by the actions of Hamas, the antisemitism, none of that is excusable. But one of them did say that her professor was discussing Israel as an oppressive force in its region. She described it as propaganda and mistrust, but that’s not really accurate. To point out that Israel is oppressive to the people of the West Bank, the Golan Heights, and especially Gaza is not antisemitic, it is just factual. Palestinian Arabs in the West Bank have had their allotted land reduced, sometimes illegally even by Israel’s own acknowledgement, by Israeli settlements. Palestinians from the West Bank can get permits to work inside of Israel, but have several career fields closed off to them inside of Israel and fewer rights than Israelis. Gaza is much worse. Israel has cut Gaza off from the rest of the world for sixteen years. Since Israel withdrew its troops from Gaza, they have blockaded the territory, controlling the supply of food, water, electricity, and medical supplies. They control its borders. They say who can come in and who can go out. It’s been described as an open air prison, and it can be considered effectively occupied, in spite of the lack of troops due to how complete the blockade is. It’s not very fertile for crops, so most of the food in Gaza comes from foreign aid. It covers an area about twice the size of Washington, D.C., but has nearly triple the population. Unemployment in Gaza is staggering, about 45% before the outbreak of war. 80% of people in Gaza rely on foreign aid to survive, aid which has now been all but completely cut off. Much of that is due to Israel’s actions, largely how they partitioned the region, keeping the most fertile crop land in Palestine for Jews, and pushing Palestinian Arabs out of those prosperous areas.
The government of Gaza is a terrorist organization, Hamas. They use their own citizens as human shields. They do not care about their people. Israel possesses the 18th most powerful military in the world. They have about 169,500 active duty personnel. Hamas is estimated to have about 25,000 members on the high end. Israel could absolutely destroy Hamas militarily, but that would likely only be a temporary respite. To annihilate Hamas would either mean enormous civilian casualties or a complete genocide of Gaza.
When you have enormous civilian casualties, you further destabilize the area, making people more desperate and more easily radicalized. When you try to get rid of a large terrorist movement with violence, their numbers often simply rise. If the young people of an area have had their homes and families destroyed, they often turn to a group that they think can protect them. The better way to reduce terrorism is the same as the general best way to reduce crime; decrease desperation. Desperate people are dangerous people. Desperation makes us more willing to cross lines we never thought possible for us. But even if you got rid of desperation, there will still be terrorists. Contain the threat as well as you can and minimize civilian casualties.
The other option to eliminate the threat of Hamas is to exterminate the Palestinians of Gaza. That would be genocide. Revital Gottlieb of the Israeli Knesset and member of Netanyahu’s party called for Jericho missiles, a “Doomsday weapon” which can carry nuclear weapons, which Israel possess.
Finally, Israel’s bombing campaign has killed over 8,000 Palestinians, more than 3,000 of whom were children. Very free people are actually able to leave Gaza, so being told to flee just means packing more people into a tiny space that is already overcrowded. It cannot be practically executed sustainably.
Basically, while Hamas is an organization built on terrorism and the eradication of the Israeli state, their horrific deeds do not excuse those of Israel, nor do Israel’s excuse those of Hamas. The lack of humanity on the part of both parties is staggering, and the support of so many governments around the world for this wanton destruction of life is sickening.
You are wrong. I didn't see protests agaisnt MILLIONS of murdered Muslims in Lybia, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Iran and even China. But when 8000 Palestinians who elected Hamas who hides behind them the entire Liberal (woke) and Muslims van finally unite in their hate agaisnt jews. Btw, the numbers your hearing from hamas (3000 children dead) is as true as the idf bombed a hospital, its completely false.
I bet that you would justify the thousands of rockets coming into Israel, the building of extensive tunnels for terrorizing Israeli civilians, and the despicable murder of over 1400 innocent civilians in the most heinous way. I would also not be surprised if you were one of the people singing “from the river to the sea” and then claiming that Israel is committing genocide. When you believe that Israel should cease to exist and support the Palestinian call for the genocide of Jews, you are an antisemite. The Palestinians voted for Hamas. They started this war and Israel will decide when to end it.
SERIOUSLY? Where did you get those "casulaty" numbers? Hamas? Why woudl anyone believe anything said by them? Do you recall that jubulation in the streets of all Muslems countries happened on Oct. 8th? There are 43 Mulsems countries surrounding Gaza; why have NONE of them allowed Gaza refugees in or even provided aid?
Excellently put. Thank you.
Not a fan at all of msnbc but thank god for the reporter for showing their side and not propaganda. I feel horrible for these young ladies trying to live the best times of their lives and it’s horror
a rare feat for a change.
Religion and politics really bring people together...
“Rarely”, not “really”.
@@karisc123 *Sarcasm*
What Hamas did is disgusting no one in their right mind would say otherwise, what Israel is doing thereafter is also disgusting!
No you see when Hamas kills a thousand innocent people it's terrorism, when Israel kills ten thousand innocent people it's just "the cost of war".
Bingo! Wrong is wrong. And two things can be true at the same time.
@@lovinglife419 Yeah, but it is not true that terrorism is equivalent to unintentional civilian casualties in a war. At least not according to Western laws.
@@themaskedman221 Forget their statements about how they want to be careful about civilian lives and look at their actions: Ten thousand dead, 4000 dead children from their bombing campaign, over 40% of the homes in Gaza are rubble. They are either completely incompetent, indifferent, or the widespread death and horror is the actual point - and there's a lot of reason to believe that's the case.
The Israeli gov't has made several public statements making it clear that they view the Palestinians as collectively guilty for attacks against Israel, last week Bib straight up and compared them to the biblical Amalek tribe - a tribe that was wiped out by the Israelites to the last man.
They've been wanting to kick the Palestinians into the desert for decades, they drew up plans on Oct 13th that they'd erect tent cities in the Sinai desert where they'll move ALL the Palestinians in Gaza, permanently. That's why Palestinians don't want to leave even though they might get bombed, they know they won't ever come back.
Notice too how Israel has released no data and not even made any claims as to how many Hamas fighters they believe they've killed. That's because they don't make the distinction between Hamas and anyone else in Gaza. To them, it's 10 thousand Hamas fighters, or potential Hamas fighters, or Hamas supporters. No such thing as an innocent person in their calculus
That is a correct mind set. Israel jump the gun. Did not plan out the counter attack with logical tactic. They are at the heat of a moment, just want revenge and try to get hostage back. We not in their shoes. We dont have that pressure. Hard to say.
''My name is Reuben Moscovitz and I'am a Holocaust survivor that cannot live with the fact that the State of Israel is imprisoning an entire people behind fences. It's just immoral. What happened to me in the Holocaust wakes me up every night, and I hope we don't do the same thing to our neighbors. I compare what happened to me during the Holocaust to what the besieged Palestinian children are going through.''
Dr Reuben Moscovitz, a Holocaust survivor
Shalom
Please proof you are not just a propoganda worker for terrorists
Good for you speaking up after this horrible gaslighting piece.
Hamas is a horrible horrific tayorist organization, but so is the Israeli government. Both can be condemned at the same time.
Israel is a beautiful country filled with wonderful and not so wonderful people, just like all other countries. Criticizing the actions of the Israeli government is NOT antisemitic.
I've seen your posts before ahole. You take money from Russia, Iran and more. Why youtube allows you to stay here I do not understand.
Please keep posting this comment. I think it will stop people right in their tracks. It did for me. I hear you loud and clear. God bless you.
seanpatrick : Thank you, Sean. I have been spreading this message far and wide over social media from CNN/MSNBC to Al Jazeera, DW/BBC/WION/Sky News etc. Initially I received a lot of flak (hate) but the tide is beginning to turn once the initial shock of Oct 7th is wearing off and people become self educated and see the graphic images coming out of Gaza.I hate Hamas equally as much as you & I'd like to add that I personally detest Zionists ISIS, Putin, Kim Jong Un, tRUMP and many others too long to list. Usually I don't bother replying back. You strike me as a very reasonable person and the kind I could share a beer, joint and conversation with and this is why I have replied back to you unlike the ugly person commenting above you. Have a good evening Sean.
If a professor said what this young lady claims then the professor should be gone! That said, I sure wish she would name the professor because it's such an extreme thing to have said that I'm incredulous at her claim.
Don't be incredulous. There are professors all over saying thos stuff. She's scared to name and shame but Megyn Kelly has been doing that and it's a long list
This may not be a red pill moment for young Jews, but a God pill moment.
@@hashemisbeautiful6615you are crazy
Agreed, it seems insane for a professor to say these types of things, but there are other instances of professors saying this kind of thing in writing. It's become normalized because there's been a slide into acceptance of hate speech on campuses---as long as it's not against groups considered "diverse" (and Jewish and Asian people aren't treated as "diverse" at elite universities because of their disproportionate academic achievement).
@@thinkagain1187 What I meant was that many Jews have considered a more religious path as a sensible response to what some experience as an existential threat. That doesn't sound so crazy to me.
You call this journalism?
Shame. One sided discussion.
We heard and saw enough from terrorist supporters on campuses.
@alonagian7722 Oh. I guess those who weren't on campus to see it have no need to hear both sides of the argument. MSNBC feel no need for their viewers to be exposed to an opposing argument on this topic.
Anti-Semitism up 400%.
@@alonagian7722 anybody defending their family, and their land is now labeled a terrorist. People like you have fallen from the propaganda that the US has been dealing for the last hundred years. Weapons of mass destruction, terrorists wiped out millions of people. babies all this sound familiar you are a sheep
Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism.
Why shouldn’t the Jews have a Jewish state?
This clip helps to illustrate just how removed these young ladies are for the reality of what life has been like for occupied. If they are struggling 1/2 a world away, imagine if they had to live the life of the typical Palestinian. I think these young ladies have an issue with being exposed to a side that runs counter to what they have been brought up to believe. I wonder how many of them actually have friends who are Palestinian? I gather none of them. For them to assume that disagreeing with the government of Israel makes a person an anti-Semite is INSANE. How do they rationalize the countless Jews around the world, and yes, there are many in Israel who DISAGREE with the radical Zionist and the continued stealing of land in the West Bank. Ladies, I have you to know that the government of Israel was behind the creation of Hamas.
Stop being anti-semitic!!!
They are full of propaganda it’s sad.
Very articulate young women.
When I was in college, 1980s California, it was similar, demonizing Israelis and Jews in general about Israel. Sometimes spilling over into old antisemitic stereotypes.
Please remind me ; who keep killing innocent civilians? Please just forget about the religion or ethnicity for a second.
Y
They’re both killing innocent civilians no? Or is it just guilty occupiers on one side? And victims on the other?
Ah the Jews.
@@bayusampurnobecause their not real things, its called fiction
Well actually its HAMAS. Chasing down families with go pros. They're not ever going to stop, the founders Son is speaking out against them to anyone who will listen. Release the hostages and get some help to civilian Palestinians. Hamas doesn't care about the people, they only care about they're own twisted logic.
There's a big difference between being anti-Israeli policies and antisemitism. This was not articulated by these young ladies. Also, no mention of the crimes being committed against the Palestinian people as I write this.
Thank you---well spoken!
Did God give the Palestinian people that land?
, No god gave it to the Hebrew Israelites but he also said they would see their land no more and go into slavery for breaking the laws of God.
@@kimlewis1618 No that is not all correct, the Jews got kicked out of the promise land for killing Jesus but Jesus told them that one day they would be aloud back but that is the trigger events that will bring in the end of the world.
@@kimlewis1618 Galatians 4 does speak of this slavery or bondage but again it is over Jesus who is God's law in the flesh and the fulfillment of the law, Jesus is the author of the law because Jesus is God.
Sad limited conversation with young people who are concerned, primarily with themselves
So, normal young adults trying to learn their way. For you to say this doesn’t directly affect these kids is ignorant.
@@Lilo-AOf course what happens in different contemporary societies affects their lives, present and future. But for young college students, their horizons seemed very limited and their sympathy confined to those like themselves
They are been encouraged to exagerate
Just like the other side who claimed the Isralies hit the hospital when it was HAMAS. Hitler wanted to wipe out the Jews. Iran & Hamas want to wipe out the Jews. Obama released $150 BILLION to Iran. Boy is he smart.
"I'm this, I'm that..." the way we artificially differenciate ourselves is what causes all these problems !! We should once and for all realize that we are one humanity, brothers and sisters, and that we only strive together, not by slaughtering each other !
The God of Abraham has some explaining to do.
Except that's NOT what [Judaism] teaches. [Judaism] teaches that ALL "goyim" _[sic]_ are animals, ripe for slaughter, and that Kohen are equivalent to gods because they made a special pact called the Talmud. Lol
No gods
Lets keep religion out of this.
@@sassysaint3096 well religion plays a big role in the divisions too XD
You are talking only about October 7 .why not you talk about decades of occupation of Israeli against palastenian
One side focuses on taking hostages and using humans as shields. They obviously know that they're the bad guys and they hope they're fighting the good guys.
They actually said that in the interview, they just don't care, the speaker of hams said, that they will be in the tunnels, and the civilians should be taken care by the U.N.
@@llIllIlI You need to do the world a favor and go back to bed.
@@llIllIlI I suppose the taking of hostages is just fake news then? A grand conspiracy like the Holocaust, to further increase the influence of the Jews among their Muslim neighbors? Because, you know, they really get their kicks off of simply irritating the masses around them. They really just need all that attention. Maybe you should stop researching and take a walk outside instead.
You have the Lines memorized by heart what an easy Mark, you are !! just one of the sheep
@@llIllIlI Retweeting Bin Laden quotes and trusting Hamas' fabricated figures isn't doing your research. it's being an anti-semite
DON'T confuse Anti-Zionism with Anti-Semitism. DON'T confuse Anti-hamas movement with Islamophobia. You can/should be against war-crimes, occupation and genocide by Zionists/Israeli-government, but you can/should love and support Jews. You can/should be against hamas and terrorism, but you can/should love and support the Palestinians. Anti-Semitism-Islamophobia, both are EQUALLY NOT OKAY. ALWAYS be pro-civilian. And I do think MSNBC should also address the rise in Islamophobia.
I'm open to what these students are saying and what they're feeling. We can refuse to support American imperialism without threatening Jewish people, and I think these young women could display more self awareness about the history of the region and the context of this conflict. I would also note that I'm alarmed by their unwillingness to ponder other people's rights to think and believe different things. Like, yes, some of us don't believe that Israel as a state has the right to exist. That's legit. But I'm not confused by misinformation, as they claim; I'm analyzing the situation through a broader lens. @MSNBC, how about some interviews with Palestinian students now?
American imperialism? 😂
They're the worst representatives. They've been raised with the mentality that Israel is beyond reproach due to the holocaust, and even the most measured, factual, critique of Israel is de facto anti-semitism, and if anyone tries to suggest otherwise they devolve into crybaby tactics.
Thank you for phrasing this with kindness and precision. This is everything I was thinking while listening.
The history of the world is full of imperialism. Palestine was a Turkish fiefdom for six hundred years. Turkey is still ruled by a dictator. I believe many Arab states (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, etc) have been recently ruled by monarchs and their citizens have few human rights. So I wonder where is this expectation from all these pro- Palestinian people that they suddenly are demanding human rights after their militant wing just carried out a cross border invasion and medieval style brutal massacre of 1,400 Israelis.
@@jordyb57 ???? Are you serious? Israel is a client state of the US and is used for weapon development and a staging area for US Mil forces. Other wise how could Pres. Biden militarily support Israel's Dahiya Doctrine (Ethnic Cleansing) while supporting Ukraine.
While listening to this, I can't help but think about ppl of color and the hate they face every day. It's the same ppl doing the hating, but ppl are blind to it until it effects themselves.
Mind Begs the Question:
Anti Semitism - Strongly dealt with
Islamophobia,Racism - If not Equally Strongly dealt with
Equality or Elitist?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsantisemetism is not strongly dealt with, 99999% of the time it’s ignored.
"it's the same people doing the hating," such a low brow comment. Do you lump all white people together in a monolith, and all black people in another, and all Asians? Just because these women have pale skin, they are "the same people doing the hating"? Generalizing an entire race is literally the definition of racism, please do some self reflection on the validity and morality of your views. Also, this isn't a pity party. How would you like it if you wanted to talk about hate speech directed at you and your race, and then someone responds with "I can't help but think about the hatred that ____ people experience every day," and "us ____ people have it worse, you did the hating but now you care when it affects you" 🤦🏻♂️ such a factually false and irrelevant comment to make right now. Perhaps we should just have meetings where every type of person tries to convince the rest of the people in the room that they are the biggest victim and that everyone should drop what they are doing and attend to their needs. Please, grow up. Everyone deserves to be heard, and every problem deserves a solution. Try not to hijack every racism discussion to make everything about yourself, or about black people. Everyone deserves their own form to discuss their issues, without interruptions like yours.
Being upset with Israel is not the same as what happens to Black Americans. I get that ppl are used to latching on to my civil rights but stop.
Is that why so many Jews fought alongside blacks during the civil rights movement because they were blind to racism?
Someone who would be exhilarated by such actions was hard to believe but, unfortunately, true. I stand corrected, but he did apologize, a lot of people saying a lot of crazy things in the heat of the moment.
Hate to break it to you, but millions of people were exhilarated by Hamas' actions. Just because you refuse to believe there is evil in the world doesn't change the fact that there is.
I saw the footage of him saying it! Look it up!! It’s insane!
I saw him saying it in public!
You're gaslighting. _You know perfectly well_ that these people are exhilarated by their actions, and the fact that you're evidently okay with that kind of personal conduct is a stark indictment of your character.
Are you blind and deaf ?
One sided per usual. Muslims and pro Palestine students are being threatened and harassed as well. Would be helpful to see that. I only hear one view. Diverse students please. Stop making one side only look the victim
Why isn´t Bella shocked by what Netanyou is doing in Gaza. Killing babies is killing babies. Two wrongs don´t make a right. It is children that say, "YOU started it".
Bella is sitting in a safe MSNBC studio she, "WAS" shocked a couple of days ago, right? Good emotional act, Bella. Are you in the theater Dept. at NYU?
Condemnation of zionism is not anti semitism.
Not the point right now dude.
It is. because the the Jews have no place to go. if you don't support them to build their on country- you simply mean you would like them to live without a way to protect themselves. So condemnation of zionism is anti semitism
Sooooo glad that someone in the mainstream media is addressing this.
MSNBC is the opposite of mainstream media
"Sooo glad their addressing this [anti-Semitism] ?? With the exception of a few rare instances, since all of this has begun, ALL empathy in MAINSTREAM media has been on the side of Israel and "Oct 7"-- and Oct. 7 ONLY!! Serious?? That said, it's terrible that misplaced 'guilt'- and outright hatred--- has been aimed exclusively at these young ladies, and others experiencing the same ( because of their faith/practices.) Just as a number of us are fed up with Wingers (in general), Right-wing 'media', the Israeli military (IDF) as well as their parliament -- not to mention, much of MAINSTREAM media--- TRYING to convince us that ANY Palestinian EQUALS Hamas, you DON'T want to fall into the trap of associating all Jews/Israeli's with the evil work of Netanyahu, the IDF and their 'associates'-- that includes the U.S. government.
MSNBC isn't news it's a democrat t.v show.
"I'm shocked"....
Understatement of the century.
I really hope MSNBC counterbalances this with a segment featuring Palestinian students.
Sadly, the way Netanyahu has chosen to prosecute this war will have ramifications for a long time - such as these young women are describing. I’m sure many people of Palestinian origin could describe similar feelings right now as well. Netanyahu’s own words, and words of his ministers have been described as “inciting” genocide by many Israeli academics and scholars and what we are seeing in Gaza lends credence to that accusation. Anyone who condones the Oct 7 attack is disturbed, but I believe anyone who condones Netanyahu’s response is equally disturbed. We essentially have leaders on both sides so blinded by hate and notions of revenge that they are becoming sociopathic. History will ultimately decide where blame belongs, but Israel, as the senior more powerful entity in this conflict has a responsibility to act in ways in accordance with international law. Netanyahu has killed as many civilians in three weeks (many of them children) as Putin has killed in two years, and Putin is a war criminal.
Phenomenal comment
You tell Israel how should they react the terrorist attacking , maybe you have a way to stop Palestine Hamas
This is the us, not the useless UN. In the US, people who make bad choices are responsible for your choices. Not benjamin netanyahu. People have lost jobs, been arrested, and had their photos videos and words recorded and documented. And more people will be held accountable. Give your Benjamin netanyahu story to the judge.
@@nelumkalachuchi1154For the non-Semitic Jews, people with Caucasian skin tone, to settle in their true Homeland- The Ukraine.
... if you believe Hamas' numbers. Which only a fool would do.
I can’t believe this is true, but that doesn’t make it untrue… wow, this is horrifying and disappointing
College campuses used to be intolerant of ANY kind of hate rallies. All Muslem "rallies" get a pass. What is going on?
Great job MSNBC. Start the video by acknowledging need for a conversation between both sides and then spend the rest of video speaking to one side and just hearing about their suffering reinforces bias. Lost respect for your show lady
Nobody should ever respect her. She’s the one who complained about Bernie going after rich people because she lived near a nice neighborhood.
They're all phonies over there
@@derekarmstrong3590wicked being judged..don't worry
So what. On those college campuses where these mindless pro hamas idiotic rallies are happening none of those Jewish students are even able to speak because they’re shouting down and attacked by these mindless indoctrinated radicalized lunatics. So it’s okay for these 3 Jewish students to have a safe platform to share their grief. Get over yourself.🤔
Yep, you are correct. I have no stake in this game... I don't care
And tune in tomorrow when MSNBC will bring together 3 students from the Palestinian side of the argument to tell their story. PS, I say this as a Jewish person...
Hahhaha.... Yeah right..!! They will 😏.. Plus free time to really express themselves like these ladies did too.. I hope they dnt ask them to condemn wh@ Hamas did too.! Because we didn't hear any of these ladies being asked to condemn wh@ isreal is currently doing
Sure, and perhaps they'll discuss how they fear for their lives world wide because they are Arabs. They can discuss til the cows come home the different sides of the war in Israel, but I'd really like to hear whether or not they hate women like those being interviewed due to their being Jews.
They’re adults not kids …. But none of us deserve to deal with terror groups
Have MSNBC invited three female Palestinian students to discuss their experiences of apartheid and Islamophobia. This piece is risible, as it is little more than propaganda rather than objective journalism.
Where’s the Palestinian students?
Exactly.
They're the ones attacking the Jewish students.
@@SafetySpooonyou sound Jewish
This conversation is as one sided as it has always been on american TV, journalism failure.
im locked up
If people would look at the original map 1947 of the Palestinians people land and Israelis land it is what this is all about. Israel has just elected a fascist racist right wing government. We haven't seen nothing yet.
Universities with DEI and woke look destroyed to me. Can they be fixed?
When is the panel of Palestinian college women scheduled?
When Hamas lets palestinian women attend college
“We should have an honest and civil debate… anyways here’s three pro Israeli students and none of the opposing opinion.” Absolutely shameful. This woman should be fired for journalistic malpractice.
biased media that do not care about the Israeli or the Palestinians, and the massacre continues
Shame on you! I’m assuming you’re not a bot. And if you’re not. You gotta shut your mouth.
They can find pro Hamas terrorists in your neighborhood
I was thinking the same...that at least she could have some Palestinian American students on to hear their experiences on campus, because rest assured, the Jewish American students aren't standing around helpless in this.
I don’t need to see any pro hamas students thank you very much.
A discussion must have many sides not just one, this is what we call propaganda
THANK YOU
This video IS NOT propaganda. It's not saying whether Israel Or Hamas is in the right, it's calling attention something that is actually taking place and is backed by actual statistics and footage. There is a clear surge Antisemitism, just like there's a surge in Islamophobia. What is wrong with you?
You are right, sir!
How is propaganda? What are they pushing?
Are you saying there’s two sides to hate speech and violent threat?
@@carlyar5281 you sound Jewish
Funny how they mention context but give none.
there is no context for antisemitism and calls for blood shed you fool
Blind hate is not a political issue
CONTEXT . Hitler wanted to wipe out the Jews. Iran & Hamas want to wipe out the Jews. Anti-SEMITISM up 400%.
3 Israeli supports, ZERO Palestinians.
Where are the college leaders in this. Where is the intelligent peace keepers in these universities? Bring these young people together to make a plan to create peace in their lives and it will grow to others.
Just think how scared Palestinians living without rights in open air prisons have felt for decades. History did not start yesterday.
Wow!!! you are so racist
Just think how scared jews in Isarel are living next to multiple terrorists groups whos goal is the destruction of Israel and its people
So you can't feel threatened in your everyday life because Palestine and Israel are fighting ? Very strong logic.
Hitler wanted to wipe out the Jews. Iran & Hamas want to wipe out the Jews. Barack released $150 BILLION with a B to Iran. Ain't he bright.
What a fair and balanced interview!!!!!!!! Three Jewish girls with their victim hood, and zero Palestinian point of view
I'm glad the man from the university didn't have some woke answer, but said that universities are places to hash out issues with brain power and respect to not fighting and violence
Where are the Muslim students
Its not Israel-"hamas" war, lets be clear the 4,000 dead children are not hamas. So far 10,000 civilians dead, NOT Hamas, not terrorists.
Why did HAMAS break the pause again?
@Mike-or3ry says who? The murderer israhel making excuses again I see. Israhell too bloodthirsty for babies and children still, they just can't control themselves but to keep revealing their murdering selves
@@Mike-or3ry and I suppose it was boogeyman hamas breaking pauses for 75 yrs? West Bank has hamas also or israhell is just hitler reincarnated
You have to be fair minded. You invite three Jewish/Israeli students ask them how they feel without counter perspective. How about inviting three Gazan students and asking them their perspectives
Because nobody cares! Stop fighting over Jerusalem like idiots.
I hope they do that too. But this is not a two side issue. ANTISEMITISM is wrong FULLSTOP NO BUTS.
We dont need to see or hear anyone else to explain that. There is zero context needed for antisemitism except its wrong. It's just hate. Maga hate. Liberal hate. It's just hate.
@@rebeccalaff853 you see them, but the WHOLE WORLD can see U now... in the midst of A GENOCIDE that's killed THOUSANDS of CHILDREN....y'all STILL claim to BE the victims....
yeah...we see you too....heartless, despicable.
Yes, let’s hear from the antisemites to keep everything balanced /s
@rebeccalaff853 Silly comment. I'm irish - an atheist who isn't anti-semitic - and it's perfectly valid to point out the one-sided nature of this debate on this clip. To be crystal clear so that you can't chuck cheap slurs at me - Hamas are evil terrorists who would also murder Me too, and their murderous attack on Israelis was evil, and wrong, regardless of the oppression Palestinians endure under Israel's crushing control. Deep sympathy to ordinary Israelis, and Israeli or other Jews, murdered by those terrorists, as well as everyone else that Hamas murdered.
That should be clear enough - hope you can See me too, saying that.
And having said that, I'll echo the view from the Republic of Ireland - called Europe's most hostile nation by the Israeli government, even though We suffered decades of sectarian and political terrorism ourselves - which saw Our leader say yesterday that a Lot of Israel's actions right now look like revenge, not justice. Bombing hospitals? Bombing ambulance convoys? Slaughtering Thousands of civilians, deliberately, consciously, and claiming that Hamas were the targets?
I'll also point out that plenty of Jews, including Israeli Jews, have also criticised the attacks on Gaza, and the killing of civilians there. So, what, are you going to call critical Jews antisemites? Say that They're not 'Jewish enough', if they criticise Netanyahu?
I think You need to sit down, and let people express sympathy for both Palestinians *and* Israelis, and also allow people to call for Israel's destruction of Gaza, and slaughter of civilians, to stop.
The word “antisemitism” needs to be retired
are you implying that hatred towards Jews is no longer an issue?
@@Tamara-qd5dcin a conflict with palestinians and israelis.. both of them are of semitic folk, who is being antisemitic? Is debating and discussing this topic antisemitic?
Are you all talking about the Palestinians that are also being harassed here? I mean let's be fair.
Yes as horrible as it was, let’s not have any other perspective. How blind do think most of the people are here. Again as horrible as it that happened, more than 10 times worse is happening on the other side.
These are veeery loaded questions and very loaded answers at that
Which does not make it any less true.
The thing is you dont like the questions or the answers.
I wonder why.....ummmm.🙄
When I was in college I recognized how stupid and uninformed most students were when it came to politics, and they have only become More ignorant and stupid since then, which I didn't think was possible.
At least I recognized that I was Also uninformed about world politics, and so didn't engage in this kind of moronic behavior.
I disagree. Young people are often more informed about global issues and can choose to express those views within the context of other world views than their own. This is often how changes happen. Look at how the youth in Israel came out against Netanyahu who changed their rights in the courts. Four out of five Israelis blame him for the chaos happening to them. Why? He was more interested in maintaining his position than protecting the citizens.
@@tymeixsell1241 , Social media is the Wrong Source for information about the world. If you don't know that, you're an example of it.
@@ebuick3047, What generation are you referring to again? The one I see can't be bothered to look up from their iPhones, or cheer Hamas's slaughter of 1400 innocent Jewish citizens because they are disconnected idiots who can't be bothered to research recent history, and think that Hamas and Palestinians are the same thing, and don't know that 70% of Israelis support a free Palestine.
Including the ones Hamas slaughtered in a grotesque and cowardly fashion.
I think you're completely wrong, us (the younger generation) have way more knowledge of what's going on than any of you did. It's thanks to the globalisation of the internet and young people taking more interests on how the world really works. That's why we're against the outdated and biased narrative driven by the west and why we're supporting the innocent civilians in Gaza that are being bombarded 24/7 by the IDF.
@@ebuick3047 re: "Young people know way way, way more than ANY generation before." due to having an ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT (that they have no knowledge of) the youth are dumber and more immature than ever. Q: how...? A: what they still don't have is a working knowledge of History. ref: "The more things CHANGE the more things STAY the same..." - Jean Alphonse Karr (1808-1890) also ref: "Those who don't know History are DOOMED to repeat it..." - George Santayana (1863-1952)
This is some outrageously terrible journalism.
Bring debate to those campuses and get those students to talk so that they be told the truth.
''When Homg Kong demonstrators throw stones at the police in Hong Kong that's considered to be heroism in the American press. When in Myanmar, the demonstrators throw slingshot stones at the oppressive army, they're considered to be heroes in the Western press. When Palestinian kids throw stones and rocks at the Israeli soldiers, they're called terrorists.''
Gabor Mate, a Holocaust survivor
Nice try muslim fascist.
When are you people going to understand that the land it's cursed !!!!! it will not have peace EVER !!!
What happened to support for the LGBTQIA community ?
How do you support Palestinians when they hate gays as much as Jews ?
@@davidmhale521 "they hate gays as much as Jews "
Prove they hate both.
Of course, I mean, proof other than, "well, it is obvious". 🙄
@@quewalabear8575 Arabs do throw gays off the highest buildings.
Palestinians claim to be Arabs.
And Arabs hate Jews just as much.
What did they think would happen when you drop bombs on people who can't leave the area. They listening to their story but could care less about Palestinian lives.
1) this is not a reason to attack American students because of their ethnicity
2) Gaza civilians were provided with evacuation corridors. Israel follows rules of war
@@leoraprthose “corridors” have been bombed, refugee camps bombed, hospitals bombed, families en route bombed, ambulances bombed, air strikes in the south, the egging Red Cross bombed. Israel does NOT follow laws of warfare, or Geneva conventions…never has.
These girls are amazing!! I wish I knew how i could help or stand with them. I'm not Jewish, I'm not Palestinian. I'm just an average American citizen.
Tell them to tell Netanyahu to stop the genocide
Protesting for a cease-fire is not anti-semitic. It’s simply taking a stand against extremism on all fronts. Interviews like this simply feed the fire of the uninformed.
This whole interview is ridiculous its makes it sound like everyone on campus hates us but its coming from nowhere.
Stop being anti-semitic!!!
Very disappointing with msnbc with this one sided story .
This is not a debate. Its 18min. Not going to solve the war problem under 18min. Stop the pretending. That you care to listen.
@@Aphichat. how do you know that this person doesn't care? where did you come up with that conclusion???
One sided hatred of Islam also you should condemn...their hatred against Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists.
it's great to hear both sides of the story based on facts and not anecdotal evidence-great reporting
Do you feel this piece spoke to both sides of the story? I only heard one side of the story. I was waiting to see if they'd address the other side's perspectives.
@@robertoblain7019I think they're being sarcastic
@@robertoblain7019the other side is spoken in protests and attacks on Jews. What else do you need from the other side?
Both sides?? I must of missed the Palestinian or arab voices on this panel i could of sworn all of the ladies on there were jewish..
I don't miss Arab voice. @@avalaw1927
ONE SIDED PERSPECTIVE ! WHY NO PALESTINIAN REPRESENTATION ? MAINSTREAM MEDIA BIASED!
Lost in all this is the repeated nullification of men. Wherever the topic of the terrorist attack or the retaliatory manoeuvres of Israel are being discussed, it’s _always_ the women and children victims being talked about. Innocent, civilian men were killed, too. It’s kind of gross no one seems to think that matters.
Everyone are victims, but I suspect only men are perpetrators. I’d love to see the women taking over leadership of both sides for six months, and empowered to make consequential decisions. We might see very different priorities and even novel solutions.
@@Rnankn
There are plenty of female Israeli soldiers.
for god’s sake, *man up* and quit making every issue about your self
It's because over 90% of hamas is Male and all the leadership is Male and women are 2nd class citizens. You're right,..but its men behind these wars...the rapes...the child murder...men men men. So yes..men get marginalised :?
Sadly, almost no one cares about men, even other men.
It almost feels like the protests about Vietnam which none of these kids knows a thing about personally.
Antisemitism is not ok, but let's be clear that criticism of the Israeli government policy of apartheid and bombing civilians is not an example of antisemitism.
protests should be banned on campuses. they can have debates and all that but not protests. its should be a safe space for all students.
My heart goes out to BOTH the Palestinians and Israeli civilians and their children.
If there is any hope for peace and coexistence between the Palestinians and Israeli people, it will take great, great strength, courage, working together, and God's help.
I pray that one day, this could be possible.
I pray that young adults all over the world at colleges all ages will come together on both sides, walk hand in hand in peace for PEACE.
Hate only creates more hate, division, and destruction. No one wins in war.
So, I pray for both the Palestinians and Israeli people, their children. Palestinians and Israeli people deserve a better life and without living in fear. God bless the doctors and nurses on both sides trying to help the injured. Thank you.
Dream on.
"There will be Peace in the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews." Golda Meir Former Prime Minister of Israel.
@ottomechanic1370, I like your post, however the line "and God's help" I take issue with.
Perhaps it is that very concept of "God" which is the root of the rift between these peoples. The Koran speaks of killing non-believers and the other scripture speaks of "The Jews being the chose people of God" if they could put down these ancient beliefs and rather see there common traits then peace has a chance. Both ancient texts condone acts which make one side feel superior which leads to a clouding of the facts.
@@Reason1717 thank you for your reply.
@@ottomechanic1370 , well thank you for your civil response. I add I had no wish to offend and want to make that clear. Discussion is best when it is without any desire to disrespect. Peace and health to you.
Yes, I deeply appreciate your explanation and coveying your thoughts. I agree with your words.
Sounds like these kids need proper historical lessons as well. These kids are mad that Israel’s wrong doings are being taught.
Now, any student shouting actual anti semitism is ridiculous & doesn’t do the Palestinians any favors- it completely delegitimizes the real fight for Palestinians freedom (their own state).
The ignorance of these two proud Israelis is one of the main reasons anti semiitiam will grow and spread... Let them speak their tiny minds and watch the repurcussions..
Not one word about decades of oppression. Miss me with this, please.
I'm a supporter of Israel and All her people. I've had the pleasure of visiting Israel a number of times and have personally observed the Gaza and West Bank, speaking with many young people and shop keepers in the old city. What I discovered is there are a great many Arab/Palestinian, whom have no interest in violence, seeking peace and interaction with the Jewish community. However, their patience was and obviously is running out relative finding a solution to the profound difficulties of life as a Palestinian in modern Israel. Until such time as the whole story and issues of quality of life for Palestinians is addressed, there cannot and will not be peace.
Because you have no idea what you're talking about?
Isreal is as racist as crap, dude ... please. Why do you think most black people don't support. We are not talking about American Jewish people as a whole, but those in Isreal
This is unacceptable. Students should go to universities to learn, not make it a pulpit to support terrorist attacks.
When you said terrorist, @@bobbykiefer4306 you meant Israel, the Jewish State, right?
The students learned the truth and they acted on the truth that the Jewish State - so called Israel- is a RACIST state.
And you do, @@JLova82?
Can you present the experience from both sides pls? Unfair to take sides and spread bias, that only makes the situation worse
Right? Jews being able to talk about the most barbaric attack on their people since the holocaust? Lunacy! Thank God you're here to be the voice of reason. I'm sure you were there to protect Isis after 9/11 too
I can tell when people lie and I see it too
Beeing confronted for israel's policies is not antisemitism. There is no smoke without fire. Israel is no ideal perfect state. It is an extreme religious state.. extreme religipus are dangerous, jews as islam or christians , NO difference!
Im shocked when eveytime one voices an opinion on the Isreali palestine conflict. Those connected with Isreal or the jewish religion jump to the "antisemitic" statement.
If Israel is truly a democracy, then it should be possible to criticize the government in a secular way. If they jump to that immediately, they're implicitly acknowledging it's become a theocracy.
Thank you for proving that they are right, because this is not what happens.
It is really diluting the cause of fighting against jewish hate to conflate judaism overall with zionism.
It's crying wolf.
Yeah, and armies of bots from Russia, China and Iran are populating youtube boards with their pro-islamic murder positions.
Did you watch this video? Because you are not describing this video. They are talking about hatred and violent threats expressed toward Jews, not political opinions about the Middle East conflict. (Also, you keep misspelling Israel. But I won't accuse you of antisemitism for it.)
Great debate. Seems one sided. Lol I would love to hear the thoughts of the univeraity teachers instead of just the students. This is journalism?
Agree, this was not a good debate when only one side is represented.
no.. just propaganda
it's not a debate. It's not presented as a debate. It's a discussion.
It is one sided, so counter it by checking out CNN's unbiased journalism...and if you want to know what the professors think, just click on any of the student protest videos you see here on RUclips, or maybe sign up for a class and become one of their protégés. Any class, really, or simply talk to any current college student you might find wandering about.
@@suzannebennett8987 You are correct and I misspoke. It was not a very good discussion.
As someone who has spent decades studying the holocaust and the third reich simply to understand how this could happen, what is going on now is an abomination. I am a former lefty and I am repulsed by what the democratic party has become. And the moral drift that has occurred is terrifying. If you can't see who is the evil player here, much soul-searching you are in need of. Shame. I stand firmly with Israel. ✊
Shouldn’t we hear from more than one source? This is bad journalism.
i really don’t feel like this segment takes all perspectives into account.
Is ther more than one perspective to hate speech?
Do you think hate speech and threats against fellow students just going to class is... justified? Please elaborate
@@rebeccalaff853I'm pretty sure they're referring to the fact that she didn't include any guests to discuss the rise in Islamophobia.
@@jjnyc71what hate speech? This just condones islamophobiaa
Playing the victim card so hard
Antisemitism can’t be tolerated but they need to ask them about the what is happening to children in Gaza … it’s Israeli behaviour not Jewishness being opposed
No they dont!!! These Americans dont need to care about anyone but Americans. antisemitism is unacceptable..NO BUTS!!! That girl clearly just said the bombing is wrong and she cries for Palestinians. What more do you WANT? Stop whataboutism! These American girls can say and feel how they like without being threatened with DEATH!
Drnab1983...it's not okay we denounce BUT......smh...
tell Hamas ok?
The three girls are an absolute credit to their families. Try not to engage with the bullies. Fly high as you will be soon be interviewed for high powered jobs in which you will succeed. You cannot change mob rule. Find safety in numbers . I wish you well. Here in Britain we have an incredibly brave journalist called Douglas Murray . Please listen to him ,he is with you. God bless Israel