How TikTok Tricked America
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Lol dude said “zuck was trying to crack the Chinese problem” and shows his wife 😂😂😂
Zuck has no power, he is just a puppet, a grey morphed into a melted gumby.
Everyone: "Social media companies are spying on us and it sucks!"
Also everyone: "Man I sure can't get enough of this CCP state sponsored malware that I voluntarily installed on all my devices lol"
That's rough, buddy
The worst thing about TikTok and Facebook is that it makes its users dim uninterested and unproductive people
Agree
Whats RUclips then lmao, i guess you can listen and do other shit but its the same thing brother
youtube too
@@jeffpen4622 your alittle late dog
@@iangrabowski2298 I listen to RUclips and control what I tune into
Why aren't they looking at Alibaba and many other companies where the CEOs were silenced when they began to speak out about the Chinese govt? TikTok isn't any different.
Alibaba and the likes do not have direct control of the data of so many Americans
Baba has bekshire money
The power of Alibaba is nothing compared to TikTok when it comes to impacting young adults. Videos can do a ton of propaganda.
@@TY-we9vu and so can Meta... The US government initially argued on the privacy and data of all Americans, now they changed and focus on kids and teens to make it more impactful..
those companies are not even in the same category. you wanna sounds smart? please study …. smh
I just deactivated tiktok a few days ago and other platforms for a detox I found it all with the same captions and truama people drop onto others and it’s completely overwhelming and to be brainwashed everyday. I’m slowly starting to see myself heal and feel better about life rather than scrolling and engaging into mediocre content 24/7
Tic toc is all misleading info anyways. Your iq just raised 10 points in my opinion. 👍
I deleted everything but youtube, and I love it.. I hear some friends gossip about people they havnt saw in 10 years and mean nothing to their life.. I look up when I'm walking my dogs, no hand in phone with a bent beck. When I'm out in the city it's so depressing seeing 10s of thousands of people walking the blocks staring down. Essentially looking at nonsense and I feel like I stopped being a robot and became a human again. Everyone has their heads in their phones.. people can't go 3 minutes without checking their phone.. it's so weird how we got here so fast
Read infinite jest. We should get off of this platform too
All social media worked the same. Using algo to push content based on your interest.
I really wanna dopamine detox.
People claim is a scam but I managed to do it successfully once and it worked WONDERS for my (at least in the short term)
I had cut off all sources of pleasure in my life for just one week. Afterwards, even a mediocre song sounded euphoric to me
the way we all understand how corrupt TikTok is, but still use it is absolutely crazy..
That's like saying "I know Starbucks uses child labor from African countries" but i still drink Starbucks cause why not. 16M people drink Starbucks weekly
I guess other American companies are clean huh ?
@@Kukatee24 You should watch the video before commenting. The USA should regulate companies that gather data from the citizens of the USA, China does not have the same moral, responsibility or economical concerns the US or its allies do. China belongs to the Communist party and that is the core of the issue, not always the companies themselves. If you watched the video, it would negate your simple minded argument. But maybe you are a Russia and China bot planted to defend Communism, the government that will heavy handedly harm their own citizens and are ran by dictator-like powers.
news flash, most of the world is controlled by corruption
Speak for yourself. Even here I use Firefox to watch youtube, I haven't used their app in at least the las 6 years.
I've never understood the TikTok situation until now, after watching this. This is the best information ℹ️ I've gotten regarding TikTok and it's ban in America
He didn't even mention that TikTok keyloga your whole phone
That means you dumb
@@LightSourceTemplethat one is social media and google standard procedures.
TikTok is making young people stupid on purpose but only in USA in China algorithm work different. You miss that crucial point Sherlock 😂😂
@@pio7763 I said the same thing. They are using it as an attack on USA. They planned this
This guy is incredible on explaining respect to this guy
@@skp8748 he executes the companies daily operation and has a slightly control but the real controllers are the two founders sergiy and larry
@@flazerflint8662 so the same as the tik tok ceo?
Good at spreading US propoganda
@@rimondas6729 yea US propaganda is why the CCP enforced the 1Child policy for 40 years committing 1 of the biggest crimes against humanity in history against the Chinese ppl
@@rimondas6729 what r u smoking mojo
so happy someone’s bringing attention to this
I am surprised everyone doesn't know this.... its literally in main stream media all the time... Have we gotten dumber then MSM?
Does sundar control Google? ...
People need to come together, stop bickering with people on your level!!
It's us V them
1'000 people Vs near enough 8 BILLION!!!!!
Welcome to RUclips, you must be new here, I'm just glad you came out of your 10 year coma, one step at a time though.
@@Monkehrawrrr nope it doesn't. It's been hided by CCP. I'm glad everyone can see now via this video explanation
This was a great video, great insight on the intermingling of tech and politics, bravo ... look forward to the new debut!
So the US is annoyed because a foreign company is acting in the US like US companies act in other countries? Right, got it.
哈哈哈哈
US don't get equal opportunity or any opportunities for that matter in china where ccp backed companies reigns.
Yes. That's exactly it. This Channel john coogan is a cia propagandist
Ned and the pentagon sure are on a spending spree lately to get themselves some parrots...
Well I mean its not a fair deal in china facebook, whatsapp, instagram and Basically all foreign social networks are blocked so they're letting them play in their backyard while they close theirs so I'm really surprised tik tok hasn't been blocked already in the US
Love the new lighter tone and delivery while providing the same deep fact based content. Well done John!
Great video man. This had me engaged and literally made this topic more interesting, easy to listen to and wanting to not miss a word that was said. Very well made and I'm subscribing as we speak.
Wait…is this the first time you read about corporate structure?
The board provides the goal for the company, the ceo shapes the direction, and MD manages translates the vision to operational practicality.
This is just evidence for why no one should listen to random youtubers on the Internet 😂
Exactly what I was thinking. 99% of companies are not ran by a founder-CEO with full control. That being said, TikTok is quite obviously a Chinese psyop and should be banned throughout the west.
In normal companies - yes. In commie companies, both goal and direction are shaped by CCP. And don't even try do say they are not
@@cookie12986 fr he said congress was believing him but they weren't, plus they were asking stupid questions and blatantly showing their opinion on the matter - BEFORE IT WAS DECIDED.
I think this comment is very misleading because he clearly understands it, he’s simply trying to explain to those who may not. A lot of Americans think all CEOs are created equal and that they are always the largest individual shareholder, that the board answers to them and not the other way around. This obviously isn’t the case and although the job title and responsibilities are the same their power varies greatly and is determined by their shares and their influence and connections with other high shareholders. This is why he brings up Mark Zuckerberg because the truth is that this is what Americans think of when they think of CEO, someone who must approve any and all changes and can easily make their own changes. The point of this video is to let people know that the TIkTok CEO doesn’t have the kind of power that they associate with the position but that there are people in the company who do have that kind of power which is why he lists them. The CEO himself has only been working there for a few years so likely has very little say, instead he is more the frontman for the majority shareholders.
There is an important point, data of us citizen will be stored in amaerica by america company by americam, and ticktock source code is even open to be reviewed.
Love your videos. Very few people get notifications sent to my phone when they post, and you are now one of them.
This video makes %100 sense. There is not a single detail that I find incomplete or unnecessary. Your story hit me hard and inspired me even more. I hope we can perform the actions that we decide to take
Why this app isn't already banned or force sold to an American company at this point just blows my mind
美国人不是有锲约精神吗?怎么还会强迫别人出售重大商业呢?比如阿尔斯通,日韩企业,真的靠抢就能有钱吗?如果美国衰落,我们也可以掠夺你们而过上美好的生活吗?就像你们掠夺印第安人一样😢
If you do so, who’s gonna do business in America?
The land of the free until someone we don't like shows up.
Immigrants? Only if they are white.
Companies? Only if they answer to the US govt (said it in the video as well).
Otherwise as suggested by OP, "force sell" to another company, real freedom right there.
Why Facebook not banned from EU or force sold to Germany company?
Nice pronunciation and details. I'm glad you got into the "embedded party representative" issue. There's so little information about it available in English, even though it's a major method of control in the CCP.
Zhang stepped down as ByteDance CEO in May 2021 and quit its board the same year, leaving both positions to Liang, 40, his college roommate.
so therere only puppets left in their corporate order then
This isn’t literal trickery it’s legit how Bytedance is a giant. The same way Alphabet is. Alphabet’s CEO isn’t the same as RUclips’s is it?
does RUclips have an Editor in Chief who also happens to be part of Biden's administration?
Love your content John - I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on technology advancements such as Neuralink, Synchron and others.
Bro, love that you changed up the soundtrack - sounds dope! Keep keeping it fresh and thanks for the amazing content as always 🙏
Always love your videos
the whole video was packed with a lot of useful info as usual. didnt even know about those other guys, a pity the original creator is unknown.
He is the original creator tf you on.
@@DankMemer42013Dude is lost, I think he needs a map
The creator of tiktok is famous in China and in the tech world don't know what you're on about. If you're referring to the creator of musically then yeah he's not well known, mostly because he was bought out before their app got big
You're right, blind adherence to principles is fatal, specially in international geopolitics.
The problem is blind adherence to certain principles is one of the last moral high grounds that the US enjoys over China. Once the US bans TikTok, they lose that moral high ground and US citizens will become disillusioned with the principles they were taught to believe in. This type of mass disillusionment was what caused the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Your move America.
crazy that people still not understand how serious this problem is
American social medias have long enjoyed the free pass almost around the globe, it's time that every other country starts to question if that power should be allowed or taken so lightly. Obviously American can question CCP's integrity but these day's with American‘s paranoid politician, I don'k think a ban a TikTok can really help solve the insecurity issue.
US don't get equal opportunity or any opportunities for that matter in china where ccp backed companies reigns.
😂
double standards are normally applied everywhere, here in Italy we had massive tech companies killed by CIA cuz they wanted US hegemony, R.I.P. Olivetti
@@Raphtalia-chan576 What about some low level system integrator with no scaling advantage had to do with US hegemony!? Olivetti was bound to die with globalization... Economics 101.
@@DickCheneyXX yeah yeah say some more bs Olivetti Elea, made by Mario Tchou and some other researchers managed to be one of the best computers at that time and then of course Mario dies in a "Car Accident" and everybody is just selling Olivetti's share making it go bankrupt, this is suspicious on every level... France got the same treatment and one of his tech companies (if i remember correctly its tech) went bankrupt too...
Another ONE!! 🔥🔥
John, I loved the video and found it very informative!
While I share your reservations on TikTok and it’s relationship with US national security, I am having a hard time finding further information on the “puppet CEO” status of Shou Chew.
If possible, can you provide more information on his role? When you suggest that he’s powerless at TikTok - does that mean he doesn’t have day to day operational control? Does that mean that he operates the company daily, but is powerless to enforce any sort of data security?
Is there good information on how exactly these decisions are being made at TikTok internally, and how much influence Shou actually has?
I found the video quiet biased.. Like it started with a conclusion instead of leading to it. Technically, every CEO is a front of their respective company and yet here it's presented as some nefarious thing, and there's a lot of companies where the CEO doesn't have absolute power and in most cases CEOs have bosses, called the board of directors(secondarily the shareholders).
I’ve never understood the appeal of the selfie or the lip syncing shit. More ways to be self-absorbed and narcissistic?
Desperately needing the approval of not just your peers, but STRANGERS… and even if that acknowledgement is only a “like” after 2 seconds of their time scrolling past you? Somehow people feel empowered and validated by that? 🤦♂️ it’s digital poison.
0:00: 📺 The CEO of TikTok does not have actual authority over the company.
3:43: 📱 Alex noticed the popularity of selfie videos and decided to focus on lip syncing in his app.
6:51: 💰 The key strategy of the Creator Fund was to monetize influencers and help them make real money on the platform.
9:35: 📚 The video discusses the challenges faced by TikTok and its connection to the Chinese company ByteDance.
13:06: 📱 Chinese tech company ByteDance faces challenges with data privacy and government oversight in relation to its popular app TikTok.
16:07: 🌐 Chinese internet investment fund and Communist Party exert control over TikTok's parent company, ByteDance.
19:29: ⚠ The real issue with TikTok is the potential for swaying political opinion at scale with a large number of American users, as China is a major geopolitical rival.
Recap by Tammy AI
Underrated channel. Wish you a million subs soon
i really love the your tone of delivery.
The recent actions taken by the American government have brought attention to a potential threat that could result in unintended consequences. The concern is that other countries may begin to question whether the US has too much influence over the opinions of their citizens, leading them to consider whether they should also restrict American social media access.
American social medias have long enjoyed the free pass almost around the globe, it's time that every other country starts to question if that power should be allowed or taken so lightly. Obviously American can question CCP's integrity but these day's with American‘s paranoid politician, I don'k think a ban a TikTok can really help solve the insecurity issue.
@@gonzalos4379 you are typing on American social media.
@@niweshlekhak9646 So are some American who have TikTok account but still are clamoring to shut down TikTok.
@@gonzalos4379 No I am pointing out your hypocrisy that you want non-US social media but are typing on US Social media.
@@niweshlekhak9646 So am I doing the same reminding you the fact that American are also whining about certain Chinese social media's dominance thus national security being jeopardized, while their narratives are being pushed around the globe through these US social medias as they see fit and normal.
You know what that means for the rest of the world. Stop using American services.
yeah, that was what I was thinking about
Good. Let's US tech stay in US... In fact, why not leave every country keep only to its allies
@@askmelater6662no. there should be standard organizations which make these services and not individual countries just like IAB for example...,
You use 95% made in china, stop using chinese stuff first before you make this claim
China doesn't allow US companies to operate freely inside of their country anyways..
your videos are outstanding! always so informative and thorough!
Remind anyone of the story about the frog in slowly heating water; it doesn’t realise it’s heating up until it’s too late.
One of the best channels I’ve seen!
Love your videos so much ❤
8:20 China
Really interesting video. Well done!
I never once used Tiktok. I never liked social media and i knew tiktok was just chinese spyware.
Pushing the algorithm ❤
"Put on a nice suit, frontman, doesn't actually have authority" Congrats Coogan, you discovered modern capitalism, brought to you by (you guessed it) good ol fucking USA. "Do as I say, not as I do" should be our new dollar bill motto.
Wonderful video and in depth analysis. Thank you
Great content! Thoroughly enjoyed it. Subbed!!
Montana just became the first us state to ban Tiktok within its borders.
How are they able to ban Tiktok in Montana? Is it only in government? Does the ban require technology to prevent it from being downloaded on people's phones? Is there a fine for having it on your phones? Does Tiktok work on web browsers? How does the government enforce the ban?
Thank you for being so informative
Very interesting! Great job!
Very well made video john!
Praise to India govt... Who Banned all Chinese apps
I love how you put all of this. I think that TikToc is a big problem, but the RESTRICT act is not the right way to do it. You need to nudge instead of going from first to fifth gear.
This video makes %100 sense. There is not a single detail that I find incomplete or unnecessary. Your story hit me hard and inspired me even more. I hope we can perform the actions that we decide to take
Best in the world
what he failed to mention is that the american companies are just as bad. Doing the same thing. The American government isn't concerned that China is taking and using our data, The American government is concerned that they aren't the ones doing it. You think the US gov Doesn't have influence in US tech companies??? lmao. think again
Dude TikTok is doing the same thing as any other social media company
I know this is OT, but when you brought up Udacity, I felt I had to write this somewhere.
In the beginning Udacity had it right. They had classroom communities directly connected to the class, with a link to the forums with markup available, right next to the video without any need to hunt it down. People could quickly get to the forum and get to know each other, and people would get the opportunity to shine if they contributed to the discussions. Free classes where people would get certificates, plus have a community with people who would help them, really gave people motivation.
But when other platforms introduced paid certificates, Udacity wanted in on that, and much like when Hippocrates burned his own Temple down, Udacity realized what they built was too good. They Realized with timed classes and exam periods and a strong sense of community in classroom cohorts people had too much motivation, so they had to go about dismantling the system.
They started by reversing their position that timed classes were prefered, as many studies show this improves productivity. Peter Norvig used to give speeches about this at Ted Talks, but for some reason they chose to cater to the few by making every class have no time constraints, when they could have just allowed people educated in one class cohort to join another later to take part in a later exam if there was a scheduling conflict.
But this wasn't enough. They also realized students could still access the forums for a class and ask their friends questions, so Udacity made these cohort specific classes difficult to access. Ease and simplicity was replaced with difficulty and annoyance.
Yet when they realized people would still watch the content for free and no matter how annoying it seemed, they would just use the forums anyway, they made it so you had to pay to access classroom specific forums, and with his move the mentors who could move and help with the class, disappeared. With general forums instead of cohort specific classes, everything was less focused and everyone had become disillusioned. You could no longer shine, being the first to post or reply to a topic. People who were once motivated to help were gone, and people who wanted to learn would stay for a bit before realizing they couldn't get help unless they paid for a credential without much value - especially with no community to help each other find work - and then they would just stop coming.
After seeing the writing on the wall, I personally decided to attend a traditional University; although I studied the Design/the Fine arts on scholarship at OCADU.
I was already skilled in various areas of development, and Udacity gave me python and some insight into areas I hadn't been allowed to access before; yet, without the community it now feels like a wasteland at times. Nobody wants to learn alone, especially when they are stuck and the tutors made available for a price aren't nearly as caring as someone who just wanted to help and possibly shine by helping.
It sucks not having friends to compete with, friends who would show you their version of a piece of code or how they solved a math problem, so you can write much better code. I was often one of the better members in my classes, as I enjoy learning and problem solving, but there were still mentors/students who had skills above my own making themselves available, who that gave me great insights and that interaction, which is now lost, is what often gave me added reasons to improve.
Always happy to see John drop a video.
Great video, but where are your sources? I read your disclaimer and you say you're stating your opinion but you're presenting the points as fact. Please cite and link them.
Can you possibly post the name of the intro song? Thank you
Journo to Journo, Kudos #JohnCoogan !
@Crypto..Expert. Yeah, Naaaagh.
17:48 - Yes, reciprocity is above freedom of expression in strategic situations, 19:00 - VPN is apparently illegal in the PRC, 20:00 - Cold War 2.0 is very different to Cold War 1.0 - it's a very asymmetric conflict with one side playing only by it's own ever changing rules.
VPN is very common in China and its not illegal as many expats and companies use it on the daily.
John please make more content faster! I hate waiting 2-3 weeks before another upload, bud! 😂
Nice voice and video keep going I am with u for supporting u never give up😊
I’ve never use TikTok I don’t use TikTok
so what if dancing data go to china govt ? it is the same with other apps data that are tracked by US govt..
I love the fact that IF somebody IS looking for me or even if I search for myself, I'm not gonna find a picture of me! I stop using Facebook over 10 years ago! I don't use the same email address that I use for banking for example like RUclips! Yeah I one of those paranoid people that worried about their data! I truly feel sorry for those kids whose parents start uploading pictures there a baby & throughout their life!
Especially teenagers today…. When some teenager girl, thanks that she's in love. Will be with the teenage boy forever, eventually send him revealing photos! Even worse, is all those women who are on only fans. Meanwhile, they can't understand why they're single!
In 50 years, all the Single old cat lady’s are going to be those women who decided to try to make a quick buck exposing their self online!
I remember in 2019 when I tried downloading TikTok on my iPhone it showed this app is dangerous and could damage your security.
I will never download TikTok.
I’m mainland China tictok is banned
literally the public-private partnerships that lead to tighter state control and state-backed monopolies.
Screw tik tok, childrens are becoming short term memory because tik tok pioneered it
@5.01 musically wasn't the first app focused on lipsyncing. Dubsmash for one was actually quite popular and clearly an inspiration.
I FUCKING KNEW IT! I FUCKING KNEW THAT TIKTOK IS SPYWARE!
At the End of the Day, YT started the whole Monetising/ Ad Revenue industrial change lol
Ban all the social media sh*t, TikTok,FB,Instagram, Twitter. People will have more real relationships.
why didn;t you mentioned the tikok"s "texas project"?
if he mentions, his story won't be valid lol
Because that doesn't matter. There was an entire Chinese spy operation being run out of their embassy building in Houston. You think that if TikTok keeps their user info on a data server in Texas, that it protects users from being farmed by the Chinese government? It doesn't matter where the data is stored, it matters who can access the data.
你的分析绝对正确! Your analytical is absolutely right!
Nice explanation, John. Thank you.
Been waiting for your next upload. Sabbath Blessings i guess
As if other social media platforms like Facebook don't give any information to the US government.
At the end of the day, it is all about business.
Best explanation of the nature of tiktok for English readers/listeners. Thank you.
An excellent video. You laid out the facts extremely well.
NO TIKTOK NO TIKTOK
I say let zuck and zhang fight it out and see who the market chooses.
Awesome recap
I love this guy, he tells a story so well.
We need a law that shuts down social media platforms from portable devices between the hours of 8am and 6pm
What about people who are on an opposite schedule due to work?
That's a plan! 👍
@@tekboi1984 life’s not fair
Deleting TikTok now.
Most Tik Tokers can't survive on youtube. You actually have to be entertaining, intelligent or bring some kind of value to youtube. These 4 second dances aren't going to cut it over here. TikTok is basically the easy mode version of youtube.
very well done. Amazing
Why is westerners so infatuated who runs TikTok and Huawei?
you wanna come find out?
I love this video so much !!!!!
Nice! When are you going to make a video about Twitter, FB, and IG?
Very many companies in these times work like this. Think about it, you start a company, you know how to do the work but not administration, you hire a CEO, Manager, and etc. They will administer as you do the work. At the end of the year, you take your seat as the boss and look at how yiur company has performed
Great video, disagree on the alternatives to TikTok tho no other app comes even close to the quality of TikTok. Also disagree that there are no issues of active govt social media censorship in america as the recent twitter files have shown
u really don’t understand the vid. it’s really boils down to us vs china fight over control. U would rather have china in control of personal info or ur own govt. censorship in our own country is not the same as censorship in china. There no such thing as Free speech in the 21st century.
Why can't we implement GDPR-like protections to keep US data inside the US. Seems like a simple solution rather than intervening in the free market
ALL Chinese companies are required by law to answer to and do whatever the CCP tells them to do, so ALL Chinese companies are controlled by CCP - by law.
pssst...did you heard from US thing calles "N$@" it does that aswell 😧?
So are US y’all are just stupid look at the lgbt 🏳️🌈 stuff
This man believes his lies. The new RUclips propaganda
Exactly
What lies?
Excellent breakdown on this very hot topic!! Interesting and I loved the phrase, “intellectual flexibility”. Bless you for critical thinking skills.
How do you know for sure that Shou Chew is not actually in charge of Tik Tok?
All speculation as always
Not only Tiktok, also Tencent, baidu,and Alibaba
Totally different companies
Yeah ccp kidnapped jack ma.
He was missing for months.
Your videos are getting on a level of Johnny Harris, wow.
Johnny Harris is a propagandist
Hope it doesn't filled with propaganda
Who the F is Johnny Harris
@@sympathiser_of_Germans_in_40s Hope you learn proper English
China owns 51% of all companies in China. They don’t ask you they just take ownership.