I think you should definitely use magnets for the door. A whole bunch of extra-strength niobium magnets alternating with steel plates on both the end of the door and the door jamb. That way when you walk through the door with a screwdriver in one pocket and some screws in the other pocket you can stick to both the door and the jamb and have to pry yourself off both sides. You should probably also keep a pry bar near the door to get it open after it closes. On second thought, a simple mechanical latch might be the better choice.
Hmmm ... looks like there must be a reason why this technique is used f.e. with kitchen cabinets and not a single one magnet closed(endstop holding) door is seen in the wild. This must be an idea of one of those home-automation "enthusiasts" (meaning: wet dream). You know what I mean? Self taught (which is nothing wrong, the contrary is the case) experts where the installation and knowledge grew over time, meaning: No standards, no rules and the total lack of any consistent design. In other words: Total chaos:) It is big fun, while giving a party, the cloud provider decides that he goes out of business ... including the lighting, heaters/air conditioning, entertainment system and so on, hehehe. It is the same reason why people with a brain actually use switches to access lighting (at least have that option and the "old way of doing it" as the priority and as a fallback!!!) and no fancy A.I. or over the air controlled switching (who the actual eff needs light if he isn't PRESENT AT THAT PLACE?! Yeah, there are 100 reasons to have something like that, but all can be done less failure prone or are really dumb ideas in the matter of: Hey! I have a solution. Now we need a matching problem ....). This magnet door endstop idea is something of that kind. Something over-engineered, not well thought through, with the introduction of additional failure points and ... an absolute botch, born out of a feeling. I wish you all a wonderful experience with your old and boring door mechanism! Hehe:)
I have to agree with Marius regarding the possibility of using magnets on his sliding door. His solution met the criteria of his priorities beautifully. In my grade book, that's an A++.
I understand it would be a lot of work to video and edit all the possible ideas you mentioned but I’d watch every one. Thank you for uploading great content. I always learn something!
@@MariusHornberger The videos do not have to be full featured or super in depth, they can also be shorter update videos on the various smaller projects :)
agreed it was brilliant . one of the main reasons for watching videos like this is to see new creative ideas . if everyone did the same thing , it would be boring .
My rule is that I don't argue if I have doubts about what I'm saying and over the years and the more I learn more doubts I have. Another thing I've learnt from History books is that you don't argue with a German if you don't have a thousand ways to prove he's wrong.
Love the shop door handle! Ain't broke, don't fix it. Great design, Works great too. Magnets are too fussy in this case. My vote is for more wood projects, be they tools or furniture, etc. But, I like your variety of topics. Best luck for all the moves, etc.
Great video. Like the idea of magnets. You should do it, but make it even more complicated than the simple latch. You could have a damper to stop bounce back, and have the magnets on the door side be on a sliding piece connected to the release lever. So the magnets are released by sliding action allowing the door to open. Balance will then be restored with lots of suggestions to keep the simple latch. 🤣
Hey their Marius, I’m so glad that your going to continue making projects and videos. As far as I’m concerned any video you make is worth watching in my opinion. I like your point of view and the way you approach your projects. Please keep up the great job.
about the magnets, we used the have a harmonica door in our old house that closed with magnets (since it was harmonica it didn't really have the bounce back problem), but every time we had the window open and it was slightly windy, the door would just pop open by itself, and after a few years the magnets also lost their strength and the door would hardly stay closed anymore at all.
Before getting lost in the negative comments, please look again at how many people click like. We generally don't write comments, but we love your content.
More on the Magnets Controversy. Much as I enjoyed the development of the mechanical door latch, I felt it set a dangerous example of self-motivation in pursuit of personal satisfaction. Yes, very clever, and Yes, I shared the good feeling of the sound of the latch closing. But, I think the will of the people is clear: Buy the Magnets! regards, O. Tibb, CEO, Acme Magnet Corp ps: I find your videos so entertaining and inspiring. Thankyou
Hey man, I'm not really a great fan; but I do recall watching the initial videos on your drum sander. Then and now I probably don't know my own leg from a drumstick; but I wanted to tell you that I loved your honest breakdown of your past work. You framed it wonderfully, and your mindset was really positive in the editing. Good work, and I'd love to see more. "The only person we should feel superior to, is past selves."
Suggestion on CNC table height: from my experience I think it is better to have it at a comfortable height (maybe a bit lower than a workbench, but not much), I find myself often having to look closely to the workpiece, or looking at it from the side for aligning stuff, or simply to have a sneak peek under the dust shoe... Good luck with the toolchanger, very curious about that! ;)
Pfffff, you could have put a soft close system on top of the magnets, suuuuuuch an easier solution.... or not ;) Great video and great sense of humour ;)
Completely agree with your judgement on the magnets. Having played around with plenty of different mechanical solutions, I do not see a way you would get a satisfying feel from any kind of magnet solution. Like you say, if you have enough force to stop it from bouncing, the door will be horrible to open. And just like you show, even on a small and very light "door", it still does not function as well as your latch. You could have an electromagnet that turns off when you open, but then it's ridiculously complex compared to a purely mechanical latch. Possibly have springloaded/dampened magnets so they can absorb some of the rebound shock, but then we're still far from the satisfying feel of a mechanical latch AND it's still not a simple solution. I think some people are just exaggerating the complexity of a latch, don't get me wrong, I love your design of it. But I do not see why people find it to be a complex solution. Anyway, glad to watch another vid of yours, always enjoy hearing your thoughts on different projects and tools.
It is finished, but my Online Shop where I'll be offering plans for the workbench isn't. The bench is finished since August and the video since September.
I agree with you that a magnetic latch would likely bounce back. But as far as opening and overcoming the magnetic force you could use a similar design to your current door handle but have it cam against the door frame to break the magnetic attraction. The bounce back and alignment could be engineered around by insetting the magnets and spring mounting them, etc. But by the time all of that was done a magnetic solution would be an order of magnitude more complex. Plus, who cares? You had an idea and wanted to build a latch. Hobbies are about experimenting and learning so that project fulfilled it's purpose for you. Do what you wish. Even if that is way more complicated you get a chance to experiment and learn and have fun. There's a whole segment of RUclips that could be summed up as "amusingly complex solutions to simple problems". Ignore the naysayers. Lots of people just like to complain and "Monday morning quarterback". Keep up the good work.
I would definitely watch all the video ideas you mentioned, especially one about the drill press. For whatever reason I just like drill presses, don't judge me.
You would need to add a soft close mechanism to the door frame in order to slow down the mass of the door panel before the magnet quantity needed to hold the door closed will be effective. I would suggest experimenting with the drawer soft close damper to see if a few of those would be enough to slow the door down. That said if the soft close mechanism works you probably wouldn't need the magnets at all and can just use the awesome latch you made to keep the door closed.
Lower CNC height is not a problem in my opinion. You can see it in my CNC build video's like this one: ruclips.net/video/NkCVyd0bgik/видео.html The only disadvantage that I have found is with the hole I have left in my work area for vertical stuff. The maximum height is limited due to the height of the CNC. But you don't have this option on your machine. Advantages are: Easier to reach over the machine, lower lifting of heave objects to get it in the machine.
You are right about the magnets for the door. Glass shower doors use a strip magnet to hold them closed and keep them water tight, you have to close the door and hold it to stop the bounce back. They also are mounted on plastic tubes to allow for any slight misalignment and that is on a glass edge that is perfectly strait. sometimes we make stuff for the pleasure of making it not for its practicality or to please the comments
"... too much lose of my authenticity..." That's something I thought I'd Never heard on RUclips, choosing authenticity over profit. If only more people felt that way...
Having a low work surface like you're proposing for the CNC comes down to how good your back is. When it's low like that you're going to bend over without thinking about it. If your back isn't good that's going to cost you in some pain. If you're back is great, well, no worries (probably). PS. have always loved your videos. Love seeing someone come up with so many of the same ideas and methods as me (see! My crazy isn't unique!). Please never stop.
Your hand-built scissor lift table inspired me, not to attempt to build it, but to buy a 48 inch hydraulic commercial cart. This is a game changer -- useful in so many ways. 60" or more would have been even better, and I'm even considering the 10-20' varieties for rooftop work, either hand-pushed or electric. As I age, my wife's prohibitions against climbing are becoming harder to resist.
I used magnets & the door would *smash* 'm. Rubber bumper + magnets to front & back side really *grab* that door now 💪💪💪 but OK 4me _Marius Mechanical_ solution seems "just right" ...else...waiting for those linear rails to "be built into "something""
My advice for your cnc hight, I noticed you have your jointer/planer on comfortably working hight. You probably don’t use that daily hrs on end so why don’t you have that machine standing on the floor? Treat yourself and your cnc machine with the same respect as your jointer. My cnc has a frame/table hight of 810 mm. I am 1.85 m tall. I raised my table to 950 mm. My experience is it’s comfortable working hight to secure material, tool change and do visual checkups. Unfortunately we all get older, unless you want to rearrange your shop in future again you will be pleased to get that machine on a height to work comfortably on while you can, in planning the setup. You will spare your back and incase your eyesight deteriorate it’s much easier to do visual checkups ore any work on the router without your reading glasses, they are on and off, become a lose fit, falling of your nose... My personal experience as I am over 60... That automatic tool changer could be a very interesting future project.
🤣 "why don't you use magnetics? Why are you so stupid?? Why did you overcomplicate it??" Ha ha ahhh... People on RUclips or any platform behind the keyboard are always so nice...
I personally love that latching door lock. And if you made a video showing you mount 4 magnets what do you think you would have gotten in the comments then?.. You're absolutely amazing, and keep up your great work👍👍👍👍
Magnets for a door?! Well.... I guess you could have used a nice strong electromagnet and then made the latch into a switch to turn it off... That would have made for some hilarious content of it slamming you into the door frame.... :). Also, this IS a channel about making stuff, not "hacking the shit out of things as quickly as possible!" :). My vote is for the tool changer then the table saw restore. :)
I think the bigger the Cnc the better it is to lower the table. I have a 4x8ft machine. And loading big 18mm ply sheets on it is a struggle even though it’s only like 55cm of the ground. Though when I’m doing smaller work I miss not having the bed higher up. psyched to see the ATC project!
very keen on your shop vac video ideas....just emptied my shop vac today....some inspiration wouldn't be a bad thing :D. Agree about the magnets being a less than perfect solution for the door. Good luck with all the moving.
The only reason that I can think of not to have the CNC set so low is that you will lose the storage underneath the table. I am moving my shop into a 8-1/2 foot (2.6 meter) by 24 foot (7.3 meter) box trailer. I am currently looking at rebuilding the cart I have my CNC router on and am thinking about building a very low platform with locking casters and on top of that the box that will serve as my CNC table. I am going to base the height on the locking metal cabinets I can get from a big box store and the shop vac I am going to mount under it. I would like to include a small cyclone but may have to mount that above the table.
I bet the people saying making the lick mechanism was too complicated and unnecessary were also those thinking about complaining you hadn’t uploaded a video recently. Maybe a sliding door is too complicated for them - easier to just roll another rock in front of the cave mouth. As you say it’s about the problem solving. If everyone just relies in off the shelf solutions nothing new is developed. I love how your workspace is evolving to match your projects and enthusiasms. Your parent’s basement seems to have a good number of rooms, are you sure it’s fully mapped , or are you still discovering new rooms every now and then?🤫😉.
To comment on your cnc height. My small cnc hobby CNC (portal design as yours) has a worktable height of 70cm as I recycled a tablesaw stand I build years ago. I used it now for ~10 times and I have not noticed any disadvantages. I like grabing over the portal to reach behind the gantry to get stuff and to be honest you clutter the space underneath anyway. way to deep for storage and to dusty for most things.
A comment on placement of your cnc. To optimize use of floorspace in my shop, I build a cabinet to store small sheets of wood and offcuts, it has the size of a euro pallet 80*120cm and about 100 cm in height. My cnc then is placed on top of this. The end of my cnc is overhanging on one side of the cabinet and thereby allowing for cutting tennons vertically as well as horizontally.
-RUclipsr “Woby Design” has his cnc under a work bench. It seems to work well for him. -Magnetic door catches are a nightmare, for all the reasons you mentioned. Electoral-magnetic catches are nice but aren’t cheap and smaller ones need a soft close.
It's weird seeing you with some stubble, I still remember the innocent, young Marius from when I started watching you. *sniff sniff* My baby is growing up. LOL
On the CNC: are you sure you want to mount it that low? You'd have to bend over every time you'd want to work on it and with it, and if it's near all those wooden boards, risk whacking yourself into them (me, I'd probably hit my head on them). I'm surprised no one else mentioned this. Everyone seems to have this weird fixation on your door handle...
Hi Marius, CNC tool changer project looks up my street. Is there chance for multiplexing/shift registering to increase number of control lines? I'm also in need of coverting a shop vac to cyclone.
Lol I have multiple sets of pliers (in multiple countries) with large mains voltage arc damage on them from “attempting” to “fix” electrical equipment while sadly still live!! It happens..
Vote for Cnc stand for your next project. Curious to see your design considerations. I am also stuck at the same stage, knowing that I want to remake the cnc stand, but have many undecided factors. One of which is to build into the cnc stand a way to clamp long work pieces vertically. Probably not an option for your hammer cnc, but if you have thoughts on it, let me know 😬
UCCNC is a nice, high value with many inputs/outputs, easy to customize, great support & forum also it can talk serial so basically unlimited expandability.
I made my CNC the same height as my table saw but I wish I would have made it higher. I didn’t realize how much I would be bending over to change bits or clamp and unclamp parts. I enjoy all of your projects.
The magnet problem is true, If you make your magnet assembly powerfull enough to take the rebound, you need more force than the rebound to open the door. Only handy if it storms (unlikely in your home) The professional gate builders do this via an electro magnet. push button to release (with a few seconds of "open time" (delayed on)) and strong enough to take the rebound of the door. Since you can calculate the field strength you can tailor it to your needs. one major con is that it always needs power to keep the door closed. (you can mitigate that by adding a few magnets to hold the door shut when it is closed (can you check via an arduino) That would make it a complicated mess for just 1 door. The thing i want to see you build is the following: centrifugal dust seperation system (ruclips.net/video/n2OStvRteRE/видео.html)
You _could_ use magnets, spread across the entire height of the door, together with a mechanism that should slide one side up or down, when opening, to break the magnetic coupling - that would also quiet the ones complaining about overengineering. For me, the most interesting projects will definitely be the furniture projects. You could, in fact, use some over-engineering for the tool changer, to not take up space on the CNC's working area permanently. I'm thinking a mechanism driven by a separate controller which brings a disc holding multiple tools into the table area, then slides it out, and where one particular tool slot can be dialed from the controller.
Tool changer will be interesting. You can see the evolution of you skill and capabilities when you compare the drum sander to your later projects. I’m with you, I don’t think magnets would work at all.
I have a solution for the pocket door and magnets. A recessed universal 12 volt mag lock. 12 volts power supply, request to exit button inside the shop and a PIR on the entry side to the shop. It's way overkill for that application but it's a solution none the less to it. I honestly prefer the handle you made for the pocket door.
I usually enjoy your videos. And did with this one as well. However. The infamous however ;) . I think you shouldn’t be too hard on yourself about your past work. If you hadn’t made that drum sander, then would you have had the guts to make some of the subsequent machinery by yourself? Correct - your standards have changed. As well as your skills. I took apart a table stand a few years ago, that was my first project. And it had loads of faults that I would be disgusted by today. But it was a start to my journey. Today I am maintaining two wooden boats and renovating my house. My skills have increased along with my standards too. But back then, it was the peak of my performance, and I was proud to even have used a router. My point is: down bring yourself down. You are a bright and amazing dude, and every genius has to make the first iron man suit at some point ;) Be proud of what you accomplished at a relatively young age :) 👌
i look forward to the toolchange project ;) that is something i would love to make for my new 1419 CNC table. But more then with your cnc the space to add it on my cnc is very small.
Any reason you couldn't mount the cnc vertically on the wall? I know infinitycnc just showed that option recently for theirs. I guess it depends on belt driven vs leadscrew. As far as table height, do you ever use the cnc on larger pieces? I'm thinking make it the same height as work support. Beyond that, no reason not to have it low
My dad made some nice shaker style white oak cabinets in the 90's, and he used neodymium magnets on the tops and bottoms of the doors to keep the doors closed. The magnets came unglued from their holes mostly in the frame and not the doors. I'm guessing wood expansion and shrinkage broke the glue bond. The magnets that came loose from the doors probably got shaken loose from the doors coming to a sudden stop (and wood movement) even though they've never really been slammed shut. Magnets are great, but mechanical latches can be so much better in certain situations.
I would love to see how you add 1 or 2 more rotation axis to your CNC . For example if you watch the video from Verdier ruclips.net/video/iFN-B7JhIRI/видео.html, if he had a way to incline the Z axis (therefoe inclining the Y plane) he could have follow the curvature and avoid the planning session.
I used to work at Lockheed Aircraft co. in Burbank in the mid to late 60s and I ran these types of CNC Tape controlled machines way back then. they were much bigger ofcourdel )One machine I ran one five axes that had the table vertical. Would that concept help you? Give it some thought.
My thought on the magnets is a little more outside the box. Rather than on the jam you put them in the wall where the door overlaps it. This way it's sheering the magnets to open, which is much easier and allows larger stronger magnets. It also seems it may help cushion the close, since the magnets oppose until they align, and also damped the bounce for the same reasons. Do I think it will work? hard maybe. Is it worth trying? probably not, but could be neat.
I have seen some refrigerators, and many freezers, that have a flexible magnetic strip within the door gasket. That might have worked? Providing some shock absorption for the door closing, and a seal against noise?
The planer/thicknesser update! I have the same machine without the fancy cutter head. I Actually bought it after seeing your video about it. Still a nice piece of kit.
Don't pay attention to naysayers and those that have great suggestions. most of the time people don't know all the circumstances and just want to feel better about themselves by telling every one there opinion, well shit that is my opinion. anyways I've gotten older and I just look at them , say ok and proceed to ignore them like you are going to do with this comment , lol Oh and the old machines are definitely built better than anything today , they were built to last and repair by anyone, it disgusts me to see what's happening in industry today. I'm in the US and I believe it's worse here, not sure though.
and about what project I would want to see first, the dust cyclone collection... I am planning to make one myself and would love to see your new ideas, i liked the JSK Kobou idea with metal buckets and a screen held on with magnets instead of the thien baffle.
I have an alluminum drum like that , I bought it from a friend of mine for $5 , he just wanted to get rid of it because the sandpaper came loose and beat him bad enough that he was scared of it, he had it powered by a powerful fast motor, the drum has clips that are supposed to keep the paper from coming off but one of them is missing.
I have a few magnetic cupboard doors that has a mechanism that locks to two depths that toggles between depresses. (so you'd push to close and also push to open, it bounces back) Probably not suitable for a whole door, but that's probably the closest we can get with magnets without getting into electromagnets and electrical engineering.
If you filmed all of the ideas you mentioned I would obviously watch all of them but if I would have to pick one then maybe the drill press restoration. Sure, there's many drill press restoration videos on RUclips but I don't watch your videos because of x thing you do but because of the story and/or flair you add to that thing. That drill press has a story to tell, why you want to replace your current one with it, why is it better, what you do, why you do it and so on. Edit: Oh and the table saw. That's also interesting because it's rather unique piece of kit.
I think the only way to make the magnets work is to add an energy absorbing mechanism. Like a wheel what turns the momentum off the door closing to a contract plate with magnets… not as elegant as your latch. Ignore the haters. I’d love to see you build another dust separator integrated into the vacuum.
You are absolutely right about the magnets. Not an ideal idea. Oh and who would've guessed what one of the three methods is to DEMAGNETIZE magnets? YES! It is vibration/physical shocks ... BUMPING!
Most people who comment shit like that are not makers, as a maker, we already know why you did not use magnets because we already tried it and know what magnets can do and can not do they are not magic although sometimes they work great for small projects. and the on-off switch do you have delivery from harbor freight tools where you live? They sell a really cool tool that is a plug-in footswitch that you can plug in your shop vac and your tool and when you step on it turns them both on at the same time!
The magnet argument is false. Obviously those that made such comments don’t understand either magnets or door mechanics. Three cheers for your solution….please carry on and ignore the troglodytes.
That Ulmia saw is super cool . I imagine it will last a very long time . i had an old industrial 1/2 inch drill form the fifties that i inherited . it ran at 450 rpm's , one speed . the torque was so insane that if the bit got stuck you had to immediately let go and step back until it stop .i tried to hold on one time and it threw me to the floor .
"How stupid can someone be?" I was rewiring the socket on an extension cord and forgot to turn the power off. At least I know the circuit trips when a short happens through my hand.
About the only way I could see magnets working is if there was some kind of "soft close" mechanism that slowed the door waaaay down once is got within a couple of cm of the jamb and the magnets were only there to keep the door from opening on its own randomly.
Make a soft close mechanism for the top of the door. When you open the door you pre-tension a spring or air chamber and when you close the door a latch engages a notch that triggers the release of the tension in the spring or piston. Similar to this mechanism ruclips.net/video/Am1evR_MiS0/видео.html although if you want asymmetric force then you can have the tensioning distance be longer than the locking distance and it will barely add any required force to opening the door.
I think you should definitely use magnets for the door. A whole bunch of extra-strength niobium magnets alternating with steel plates on both the end of the door and the door jamb. That way when you walk through the door with a screwdriver in one pocket and some screws in the other pocket you can stick to both the door and the jamb and have to pry yourself off both sides. You should probably also keep a pry bar near the door to get it open after it closes.
On second thought, a simple mechanical latch might be the better choice.
Hmmm ... looks like there must be a reason why this technique is used f.e. with kitchen cabinets and not a single one magnet closed(endstop holding) door is seen in the wild. This must be an idea of one of those home-automation "enthusiasts" (meaning: wet dream). You know what I mean? Self taught (which is nothing wrong, the contrary is the case) experts where the installation and knowledge grew over time, meaning: No standards, no rules and the total lack of any consistent design. In other words: Total chaos:)
It is big fun, while giving a party, the cloud provider decides that he goes out of business ... including the lighting, heaters/air conditioning, entertainment system and so on, hehehe. It is the same reason why people with a brain actually use switches to access lighting (at least have that option and the "old way of doing it" as the priority and as a fallback!!!) and no fancy A.I. or over the air controlled switching (who the actual eff needs light if he isn't PRESENT AT THAT PLACE?! Yeah, there are 100 reasons to have something like that, but all can be done less failure prone or are really dumb ideas in the matter of: Hey! I have a solution. Now we need a matching problem ....).
This magnet door endstop idea is something of that kind. Something over-engineered, not well thought through, with the introduction of additional failure points and ... an absolute botch, born out of a feeling.
I wish you all a wonderful experience with your old and boring door mechanism! Hehe:)
I have to agree with Marius regarding the possibility of using magnets on his sliding door. His solution met the criteria of his priorities beautifully. In my grade book, that's an A++.
I second your motion. Magnets would have been the wrong choice.
I understand it would be a lot of work to video and edit all the possible ideas you mentioned but I’d watch every one. Thank you for uploading great content. I always learn something!
Well, if I do everything mentioned it will be 10 videos or so. Work for the coming months
@@MariusHornberger The videos do not have to be full featured or super in depth, they can also be shorter update videos on the various smaller projects :)
“Nothing beats the space efficiency of pure chaos.” -Matthias Wandel
Junk drawers for the win!
I thought the door handle was a great idea. These kind of projects allow creativity and engineering. Great job.
agreed it was brilliant . one of the main reasons for watching videos like this is to see new creative ideas . if everyone did the same thing , it would be boring .
As someone who loves restoring "old iron", I'd love to see you work on that little table saw.
Shit, it's aluminium
Yeah, I'm dying to see that tiny man in action!
reg. folks saying magnets are better for the door: "talk is cheap, show me the code" ;) great video as always, keep up the good work!
Tool changer looks pretty neat, would love to see that. But in fact most of the projects you publish on here turn out to be source of learning for me.
My rule is that I don't argue if I have doubts about what I'm saying and over the years and the more I learn more doubts I have.
Another thing I've learnt from History books is that you don't argue with a German if you don't have a thousand ways to prove he's wrong.
Love the shop door handle! Ain't broke, don't fix it. Great design, Works great too. Magnets are too fussy in this case.
My vote is for more wood projects, be they tools or furniture, etc. But, I like your variety of topics.
Best luck for all the moves, etc.
Tool changer will be great for me ;) Now I have 2.2kw spindle on HNC and there is a lot of power to work...
I think this tool changer won't work for the 2,2kw spindle. Or you need a different tool changer unit
@@MariusHornberger ill do HNC changer 😛
Is there any link for that exact tool changer ? :) curious
Great video. Like the idea of magnets. You should do it, but make it even more complicated than the simple latch. You could have a damper to stop bounce back, and have the magnets on the door side be on a sliding piece connected to the release lever. So the magnets are released by sliding action allowing the door to open. Balance will then be restored with lots of suggestions to keep the simple latch. 🤣
Hey their Marius, I’m so glad that your going to continue making projects and videos. As far as I’m concerned any video you make is worth watching in my opinion. I like your point of view and the way you approach your projects. Please keep up the great job.
about the magnets, we used the have a harmonica door in our old house that closed with magnets (since it was harmonica it didn't really have the bounce back problem), but every time we had the window open and it was slightly windy, the door would just pop open by itself, and after a few years the magnets also lost their strength and the door would hardly stay closed anymore at all.
Everything you make we will watch and enjoy
Before getting lost in the negative comments, please look again at how many people click like. We generally don't write comments, but we love your content.
If you combine it with a soft close mechanism it might work with magnets, but your solution just works, so why bother?
"collects dust instead of creating it"
Love it 😄
More on the Magnets Controversy. Much as I enjoyed the development of the mechanical door latch, I felt it set a dangerous example of self-motivation in pursuit of personal satisfaction. Yes, very clever, and Yes, I shared the good feeling of the sound of the latch closing.
But, I think the will of the people is clear: Buy the Magnets! regards, O. Tibb, CEO, Acme Magnet Corp
ps: I find your videos so entertaining and inspiring. Thankyou
Der Effekt am Anfang ist ja geil. Hab ich noch nie so gesehen... :D
Fastest 16 mins of watching nothing much!! Definitely your Grandad's retro table saw refurb for my future project choice
I would like to see how you tackle the challenge of the Router tool changer
Watching a youtube video in a youtube video. We're reaching new levels here :D
Hey man, I'm not really a great fan; but I do recall watching the initial videos on your drum sander. Then and now I probably don't know my own leg from a drumstick; but I wanted to tell you that I loved your honest breakdown of your past work. You framed it wonderfully, and your mindset was really positive in the editing. Good work, and I'd love to see more. "The only person we should feel superior to, is past selves."
Suggestion on CNC table height: from my experience I think it is better to have it at a comfortable height (maybe a bit lower than a workbench, but not much), I find myself often having to look closely to the workpiece, or looking at it from the side for aligning stuff, or simply to have a sneak peek under the dust shoe... Good luck with the toolchanger, very curious about that! ;)
On the door, if the magnets are strong enough to stop it bouncing back, they'll be too strong to open!
Pfffff, you could have put a soft close system on top of the magnets, suuuuuuch an easier solution.... or not ;)
Great video and great sense of humour ;)
(Oh, I would prefer the CNC at workable height sa est à bit of back pain :))
Thanks for the info
I am really excited to see how you get the tool change to work.
Your workarounds always inspire.
Anyone who calls you out for "over engineering" obviously hasn't watched your channel long. Keep up the good work.
I would definitely like to see you build the machine you mentioned that involves the linear guide bearings very interested
+1 for shopvac cyclone upgrade!
As an older woodworker, keep the CNC higher than lower! Bending over will get old really soon!!!!
Completely agree with your judgement on the magnets.
Having played around with plenty of different mechanical solutions, I do not see a way you would get a satisfying feel from any kind of magnet solution.
Like you say, if you have enough force to stop it from bouncing, the door will be horrible to open.
And just like you show, even on a small and very light "door", it still does not function as well as your latch.
You could have an electromagnet that turns off when you open, but then it's ridiculously complex compared to a purely mechanical latch.
Possibly have springloaded/dampened magnets so they can absorb some of the rebound shock, but then we're still far from the satisfying feel of a mechanical latch AND it's still not a simple solution.
I think some people are just exaggerating the complexity of a latch, don't get me wrong, I love your design of it.
But I do not see why people find it to be a complex solution.
Anyway, glad to watch another vid of yours, always enjoy hearing your thoughts on different projects and tools.
Didn't you mention somewhere that you are working on a workbench project? I'm looking forward to it, how long will it take to be finished?
It is finished, but my Online Shop where I'll be offering plans for the workbench isn't. The bench is finished since August and the video since September.
I agree with you that a magnetic latch would likely bounce back. But as far as opening and overcoming the magnetic force you could use a similar design to your current door handle but have it cam against the door frame to break the magnetic attraction.
The bounce back and alignment could be engineered around by insetting the magnets and spring mounting them, etc. But by the time all of that was done a magnetic solution would be an order of magnitude more complex.
Plus, who cares? You had an idea and wanted to build a latch. Hobbies are about experimenting and learning so that project fulfilled it's purpose for you. Do what you wish. Even if that is way more complicated you get a chance to experiment and learn and have fun. There's a whole segment of RUclips that could be summed up as "amusingly complex solutions to simple problems".
Ignore the naysayers. Lots of people just like to complain and "Monday morning quarterback". Keep up the good work.
I would definitely watch all the video ideas you mentioned, especially one about the drill press. For whatever reason I just like drill presses, don't judge me.
You would need to add a soft close mechanism to the door frame in order to slow down the mass of the door panel before the magnet quantity needed to hold the door closed will be effective. I would suggest experimenting with the drawer soft close damper to see if a few of those would be enough to slow the door down. That said if the soft close mechanism works you probably wouldn't need the magnets at all and can just use the awesome latch you made to keep the door closed.
the toolchanger by far!
Lower CNC height is not a problem in my opinion. You can see it in my CNC build video's like this one: ruclips.net/video/NkCVyd0bgik/видео.html
The only disadvantage that I have found is with the hole I have left in my work area for vertical stuff. The maximum height is limited due to the height of the CNC. But you don't have this option on your machine.
Advantages are: Easier to reach over the machine, lower lifting of heave objects to get it in the machine.
You are right about the magnets for the door. Glass shower doors use a strip magnet to hold them closed and keep them water tight, you have to close the door and hold it to stop the bounce back. They also are mounted on plastic tubes to allow for any slight misalignment and that is on a glass edge that is perfectly strait. sometimes we make stuff for the pleasure of making it not for its practicality or to please the comments
I love all of your videos. Can't wait till the next build video but I will have to!
"... too much lose of my authenticity..." That's something I thought I'd Never heard on RUclips, choosing authenticity over profit. If only more people felt that way...
Are you moving because you finished your masters, or just because you felt like it?
Hey Marius, where is your silent compressor? Still working? Thanks for sharing your upcoming projects!
The silent compressor is on the other side of the workshop wall. It still working really well
Having a low work surface like you're proposing for the CNC comes down to how good your back is. When it's low like that you're going to bend over without thinking about it. If your back isn't good that's going to cost you in some pain. If you're back is great, well, no worries (probably).
PS. have always loved your videos. Love seeing someone come up with so many of the same ideas and methods as me (see! My crazy isn't unique!). Please never stop.
Your hand-built scissor lift table inspired me, not to attempt to build it, but to buy a 48 inch hydraulic commercial cart. This is a game changer -- useful in so many ways. 60" or more would have been even better, and I'm even considering the 10-20' varieties for rooftop work, either hand-pushed or electric. As I age, my wife's prohibitions against climbing are becoming harder to resist.
No matter what projects you upload, however infrequently, I'll be watching!
I used magnets & the door would *smash* 'm. Rubber bumper + magnets to front & back side really *grab* that door now 💪💪💪 but OK 4me
_Marius Mechanical_ solution seems "just right" ...else...waiting for those linear rails to "be built into "something""
My advice for your cnc hight, I noticed you have your jointer/planer on comfortably working hight. You probably don’t use that daily hrs on end so why don’t you have that machine standing on the floor? Treat yourself and your cnc machine with the same respect as your jointer. My cnc has a frame/table hight of 810 mm. I am 1.85 m tall. I raised my table to 950 mm. My experience is it’s comfortable working hight to secure material, tool change and do visual checkups. Unfortunately we all get older, unless you want to rearrange your shop in future again you will be pleased to get that machine on a height to work comfortably on while you can, in planning the setup. You will spare your back and incase your eyesight deteriorate it’s much easier to do visual checkups ore any work on the router without your reading glasses, they are on and off, become a lose fit, falling of your nose... My personal experience as I am over 60...
That automatic tool changer could be a very interesting future project.
🤣 "why don't you use magnetics? Why are you so stupid?? Why did you overcomplicate it??" Ha ha ahhh... People on RUclips or any platform behind the keyboard are always so nice...
I personally love that latching door lock.
And if you made a video showing you mount 4 magnets what do you think you would have gotten in the comments then?..
You're absolutely amazing, and keep up your great work👍👍👍👍
Magnets for a door?! Well.... I guess you could have used a nice strong electromagnet and then made the latch into a switch to turn it off... That would have made for some hilarious content of it slamming you into the door frame.... :). Also, this IS a channel about making stuff, not "hacking the shit out of things as quickly as possible!" :). My vote is for the tool changer then the table saw restore. :)
I think the bigger the Cnc the better it is to lower the table. I have a 4x8ft machine. And loading big 18mm ply sheets on it is a struggle even though it’s only like 55cm of the ground. Though when I’m doing smaller work I miss not having the bed higher up. psyched to see the ATC project!
very keen on your shop vac video ideas....just emptied my shop vac today....some inspiration wouldn't be a bad thing :D. Agree about the magnets being a less than perfect solution for the door. Good luck with all the moving.
The only reason that I can think of not to have the CNC set so low is that you will lose the storage underneath the table. I am moving my shop into a 8-1/2 foot (2.6 meter) by 24 foot (7.3 meter) box trailer. I am currently looking at rebuilding the cart I have my CNC router on and am thinking about building a very low platform with locking casters and on top of that the box that will serve as my CNC table. I am going to base the height on the locking metal cabinets I can get from a big box store and the shop vac I am going to mount under it. I would like to include a small cyclone but may have to mount that above the table.
I bet the people saying making the lick mechanism was too complicated and unnecessary were also those thinking about complaining you hadn’t uploaded a video recently. Maybe a sliding door is too complicated for them - easier to just roll another rock in front of the cave mouth. As you say it’s about the problem solving. If everyone just relies in off the shelf solutions nothing new is developed. I love how your workspace is evolving to match your projects and enthusiasms. Your parent’s basement seems to have a good number of rooms, are you sure it’s fully mapped , or are you still discovering new rooms every now and then?🤫😉.
To comment on your cnc height. My small cnc hobby CNC (portal design as yours) has a worktable height of 70cm as I recycled a tablesaw stand I build years ago. I used it now for ~10 times and I have not noticed any disadvantages. I like grabing over the portal to reach behind the gantry to get stuff and to be honest you clutter the space underneath anyway. way to deep for storage and to dusty for most things.
A comment on placement of your cnc. To optimize use of floorspace in my shop, I build a cabinet to store small sheets of wood and offcuts, it has the size of a euro pallet 80*120cm and about 100 cm in height. My cnc then is placed on top of this. The end of my cnc is overhanging on one side of the cabinet and thereby allowing for cutting tennons vertically as well as horizontally.
Clearing the clutter to make more space. BIG MISTAKE. Clutter can sense clear space and automatically gravitates to it from a 30meter radius.
-RUclipsr “Woby Design” has his cnc under a work bench. It seems to work well for him.
-Magnetic door catches are a nightmare, for all the reasons you mentioned. Electoral-magnetic catches are nice but aren’t cheap and smaller ones need a soft close.
It's weird seeing you with some stubble, I still remember the innocent, young Marius from when I started watching you. *sniff sniff* My baby is growing up. LOL
On the CNC: are you sure you want to mount it that low? You'd have to bend over every time you'd want to work on it and with it, and if it's near all those wooden boards, risk whacking yourself into them (me, I'd probably hit my head on them). I'm surprised no one else mentioned this. Everyone seems to have this weird fixation on your door handle...
Hi Marius,
CNC tool changer project looks up my street. Is there chance for multiplexing/shift registering to increase number of control lines?
I'm also in need of coverting a shop vac to cyclone.
Lol I have multiple sets of pliers (in multiple countries) with large mains voltage arc damage on them from “attempting” to “fix” electrical equipment while sadly still live!!
It happens..
Vote for Cnc stand for your next project. Curious to see your design considerations. I am also stuck at the same stage, knowing that I want to remake the cnc stand, but have many undecided factors. One of which is to build into the cnc stand a way to clamp long work pieces vertically. Probably not an option for your hammer cnc, but if you have thoughts on it, let me know 😬
UCCNC is a nice, high value with many inputs/outputs, easy to customize, great support & forum also it can talk serial so basically unlimited expandability.
you could get NEODYMIUM 1.26 inch with 110lbs hold and that would have work but yours worked better and easier. hehe
I made my CNC the same height as my table saw but I wish I would have made it higher. I didn’t realize how much I would be bending over to change bits or clamp and unclamp parts. I enjoy all of your projects.
The magnet problem is true, If you make your magnet assembly powerfull enough to take the rebound, you need more force than the rebound to open the door. Only handy if it storms (unlikely in your home) The professional gate builders do this via an electro magnet. push button to release (with a few seconds of "open time" (delayed on)) and strong enough to take the rebound of the door. Since you can calculate the field strength you can tailor it to your needs. one major con is that it always needs power to keep the door closed. (you can mitigate that by adding a few magnets to hold the door shut when it is closed (can you check via an arduino) That would make it a complicated mess for just 1 door.
The thing i want to see you build is the following: centrifugal dust seperation system (ruclips.net/video/n2OStvRteRE/видео.html)
You _could_ use magnets, spread across the entire height of the door, together with a mechanism that should slide one side up or down, when opening, to break the magnetic coupling - that would also quiet the ones complaining about overengineering.
For me, the most interesting projects will definitely be the furniture projects.
You could, in fact, use some over-engineering for the tool changer, to not take up space on the CNC's working area permanently. I'm thinking a mechanism driven by a separate controller which brings a disc holding multiple tools into the table area, then slides it out, and where one particular tool slot can be dialed from the controller.
Tool changer will be interesting. You can see the evolution of you skill and capabilities when you compare the drum sander to your later projects.
I’m with you, I don’t think magnets would work at all.
I have a solution for the pocket door and magnets. A recessed universal 12 volt mag lock. 12 volts power supply, request to exit button inside the shop and a PIR on the entry side to the shop.
It's way overkill for that application but it's a solution none the less to it. I honestly prefer the handle you made for the pocket door.
I usually enjoy your videos. And did with this one as well.
However. The infamous however ;) .
I think you shouldn’t be too hard on yourself about your past work. If you hadn’t made that drum sander, then would you have had the guts to make some of the subsequent machinery by yourself?
Correct - your standards have changed. As well as your skills.
I took apart a table stand a few years ago, that was my first project. And it had loads of faults that I would be disgusted by today. But it was a start to my journey.
Today I am maintaining two wooden boats and renovating my house. My skills have increased along with my standards too.
But back then, it was the peak of my performance, and I was proud to even have used a router.
My point is: down bring yourself down. You are a bright and amazing dude, and every genius has to make the first iron man suit at some point ;)
Be proud of what you accomplished at a relatively young age :)
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i look forward to the toolchange project ;) that is something i would love to make for my new 1419 CNC table. But more then with your cnc the space to add it on my cnc is very small.
Any reason you couldn't mount the cnc vertically on the wall? I know infinitycnc just showed that option recently for theirs. I guess it depends on belt driven vs leadscrew. As far as table height, do you ever use the cnc on larger pieces? I'm thinking make it the same height as work support. Beyond that, no reason not to have it low
My dad made some nice shaker style white oak cabinets in the 90's, and he used neodymium magnets on the tops and bottoms of the doors to keep the doors closed. The magnets came unglued from their holes mostly in the frame and not the doors. I'm guessing wood expansion and shrinkage broke the glue bond. The magnets that came loose from the doors probably got shaken loose from the doors coming to a sudden stop (and wood movement) even though they've never really been slammed shut. Magnets are great, but mechanical latches can be so much better in certain situations.
I would love to see how you add 1 or 2 more rotation axis to your CNC . For example if you watch the video from Verdier ruclips.net/video/iFN-B7JhIRI/видео.html, if he had a way to incline the Z axis (therefoe inclining the Y plane) he could have follow the curvature and avoid the planning session.
I used to work at Lockheed Aircraft co. in Burbank in the mid to late 60s and I ran these types of CNC Tape controlled machines way back then. they were much bigger ofcourdel )One machine I ran one five axes that had the table vertical. Would that concept help you? Give it some thought.
I would like to see another shop-vac mods video just because of the extra-features you mentioned that I was also thinking for my shop-vac...
My thought on the magnets is a little more outside the box. Rather than on the jam you put them in the wall where the door overlaps it. This way it's sheering the magnets to open, which is much easier and allows larger stronger magnets. It also seems it may help cushion the close, since the magnets oppose until they align, and also damped the bounce for the same reasons. Do I think it will work? hard maybe. Is it worth trying? probably not, but could be neat.
I have seen some refrigerators, and many freezers, that have a flexible magnetic strip within the door gasket. That might have worked? Providing some shock absorption for the door closing, and a seal against noise?
The planer/thicknesser update! I have the same machine without the fancy cutter head. I Actually bought it after seeing your video about it. Still a nice piece of kit.
Don't pay attention to naysayers and those that have great suggestions. most of the time people don't know all the circumstances and just want to feel better about themselves by telling every one there opinion, well shit that is my opinion. anyways I've gotten older and I just look at them , say ok and proceed to ignore them like you are going to do with this comment , lol
Oh and the old machines are definitely built better than anything today , they were built to last and repair by anyone, it disgusts me to see what's happening in industry today. I'm in the US and I believe it's worse here, not sure though.
and about what project I would want to see first, the dust cyclone collection... I am planning to make one myself and would love to see your new ideas, i liked the JSK Kobou idea with metal buckets and a screen held on with magnets instead of the thien baffle.
I have an alluminum drum like that , I bought it from a friend of mine for $5 , he just wanted to get rid of it because the sandpaper came loose and beat him bad enough that he was scared of it, he had it powered by a powerful fast motor, the drum has clips that are supposed to keep the paper from coming off but one of them is missing.
I have a few magnetic cupboard doors that has a mechanism that locks to two depths that toggles between depresses. (so you'd push to close and also push to open, it bounces back) Probably not suitable for a whole door, but that's probably the closest we can get with magnets without getting into electromagnets and electrical engineering.
If you filmed all of the ideas you mentioned I would obviously watch all of them but if I would have to pick one then maybe the drill press restoration.
Sure, there's many drill press restoration videos on RUclips but I don't watch your videos because of x thing you do but because of the story and/or flair you add to that thing. That drill press has a story to tell, why you want to replace your current one with it, why is it better, what you do, why you do it and so on.
Edit: Oh and the table saw. That's also interesting because it's rather unique piece of kit.
homemade bandsaw 2.0 (bigger)
homemade jointer
homemade furniture dolly??
I think the only way to make the magnets work is to add an energy absorbing mechanism. Like a wheel what turns the momentum off the door closing to a contract plate with magnets… not as elegant as your latch. Ignore the haters.
I’d love to see you build another dust separator integrated into the vacuum.
You are absolutely right about the magnets. Not an ideal idea.
Oh and who would've guessed what one of the three methods is to DEMAGNETIZE magnets?
YES! It is vibration/physical shocks ... BUMPING!
Most people who comment shit like that are not makers, as a maker, we already know why you did not use magnets because we already tried it and know what magnets can do and can not do they are not magic although sometimes they work great for small projects. and the on-off switch do you have delivery from harbor freight tools where you live? They sell a really cool tool that is a plug-in footswitch that you can plug in your shop vac and your tool and when you step on it turns them both on at the same time!
Du bist ne coole Socke! Weiter so!
The mystery linear bearing project. Because it’s a mystery. Maybe it’s a new drum sander...
The magnet argument is false. Obviously those that made such comments don’t understand either magnets or door mechanics.
Three cheers for your solution….please carry on and ignore the troglodytes.
You’re a very skilled carpenter greetings from Mexico, thanks for sharing and sorry my bad English
That Ulmia saw is super cool . I imagine it will last a very long time .
i had an old industrial 1/2 inch drill form the fifties that i inherited . it ran at 450 rpm's , one speed . the torque was so insane that if the bit got stuck you had to immediately let go and step back until it stop .i tried to hold on one time and it threw me to the floor .
My cnc is about 3 feet high. My prior one was 4 feet high. Lower is much better. Go with lower. Great video as always.
"How stupid can someone be?" I was rewiring the socket on an extension cord and forgot to turn the power off. At least I know the circuit trips when a short happens through my hand.
About the only way I could see magnets working is if there was some kind of "soft close" mechanism that slowed the door waaaay down once is got within a couple of cm of the jamb and the magnets were only there to keep the door from opening on its own randomly.
Make a soft close mechanism for the top of the door. When you open the door you pre-tension a spring or air chamber and when you close the door a latch engages a notch that triggers the release of the tension in the spring or piston. Similar to this mechanism ruclips.net/video/Am1evR_MiS0/видео.html although if you want asymmetric force then you can have the tensioning distance be longer than the locking distance and it will barely add any required force to opening the door.