I think the interesting thing about Kaioken-abuse is that the damage to the users body after using high levels would result in zenkais every time. I mean they aren't supposed to occur if self-inflicted, but that is very loose, since we can see Goku getting several zenkais (his Muscles literally get bigger and more refined) when training in the gravity room on the way to Namek.
Honestly I don't it'll ever happen because a regular ssj has no ki control. Your ki leaks so much and it literally explodes in power. If he stacks kaioken on it, his body will literally blow up.
I just realized Goku kinda mastered Kaio Ken but not really but according to your meaning of Mastering of Kaio Ken it master's the strain on ones body so in the Freeza Saga it is stated that Goku could use Kaio Ken up to ×10 without problem so yeah. Just thought of that while using the bathroom ಠωಠ also love the series keep making more!
I have a fire what if that no one has done before. What if piccolo could heal people like dende. This shit would be fire af because piccolo could legit be the turning table in some battles.
Yeah thats true with a little bit of polishing maybe it turns into 'what if piccolo wasn't a warrior type namekian?' since theres a farmer namekian than a warrior type so i could see that actually
EssentiallyBlack yeah it would tremendously boost the hyperbolic time chamber because piccolo doesn’t need to eat or sleep🤣🤣 he could just lay back and heal up the warriors so that they could non stop keep training.
EssentiallyBlack instead of him not being a warrior type Namekian, you could say he got it from merging with Kami, as healing seems to be something from the type of namekian Dende is, which is the same as Kami.
TBalpha22 then they would never go to namek since kami fused with piccolo and became a dragon clan namekian and piccolo would just make another set of dragon balls
EssentiallyBlack yea man just keep pushing like sometimes u gonna wanna just stop cuz u not feeling motivated or sum like that but u gotta just push past that stuff if u ever have health issues of any kind take your time and then go hard from one youtuber to another u just gotta be happy with the content you put out and make sure ur not just doing it to please everyone else and then your not happy cuz it will show in the what if so make sure you just take your time and then you’ll be on the level of the greats especially since your ideas are great and different so keep coming out with this type of stuff still gucci
This is the problem of the digital age, no matter what it is, being online provides instant gratification... kids these days have no patience and expect everything fast and don't realize all the money, time, and effort it takes to think these up, write a script (if not multiple), record it/do multiple voice takes, cut it and edit all the pictures into it and then post it by a certain deadline. This isn't his day job, he probably works anywhere from 8-12 hours, if he sleeps for 8 hours that leaves 4-8 hours for everything else including making these videos. Relax, be patient, and don't expect free entertainment videos to pop out as quickly as babies from a hooker.
I'm glad you fixed that. I'm also surprised i was the only one to realise the mistake you made, but i'm glad you found a fix around it. Goku not realising his full power is a pretty smart thought
Vegeta, nappa, and gohan will still have their tails, so maybe vegeta masters super saiyan in this timeline. He's stronger, nicer, and it could give him a key to that wrathful state.
Dude, it’s a good idea but it’s to late in the series. We need multiple parts this what if would only have around two parts max and that’s if he extends the shit out of the videos
@@EssentiallyBlack Awesome! Hes pretty old but I bet he could still have atleast one oid with tights before they got too old. I mean Bulma had Bra at like 41 years old so
Thank you again so much for this idea! This happens in the what if which comes out today It really helped me not forget about nappa as a character so hes good now I would have been lost without this small comment! 🙏🏽
@@EssentiallyBlack i like where youre going with this 😱 also you really remind me of this other dbz what if guy named "tylearn" youre like a mix of him and salad and im enjoying it keep up the good work!
Its really hard to calculate something as spontaneous as zenkai boosts as theyre just plot so Since I cant calculate the exact power level I thought itd be best to go with the original keep in mind this is my first what if series so later on ill think more about that stuff thanks for commenting this leaves me with something to think about for later
Aight Since He Didn't Do Many Power Levels, I Will Pre-Trunks Saga Goku (Post-Zenkai + Discovered Power): 7 Million Gohan (Potential Awakened Fully): 800,000 Krillin (Potential Awakened Fully): 600,000 Chiaotzu (Post-Training): 20,000 Yamcha (Post-Training): 75,000 Tien (Post-Training): 80,000 Piccolo (Post-Training): 100,000 Vegeta: 135,000 Nappa (Post-Zenkai): 6,500 Trunks Saga: Goku (Post-Yardrat Training): 10 Million Gohan (Post-Time Skip): 3 Million Krillin (Post-Time Skip): 1.2 Million Chiaotzu (Post-TIme Skip): 400,000 Yamcha (Post-Time Skip): 550,000 Tien (Post-Time Skip): 750,000 Piccolo (Post-Time Skip): 4 Million Vegeta (Post-Time Skip): 6 Million Nappa (Post-Time Skip): 125,000 Mecha Frieza: 140 Million King Cold (2nd Form): 140 Million Trunks: 7 Million Trunks (SSJ): 350 Million Android Saga: Gohan (Post-Time Skip): 8 Million Krillin (Post-Time Skip): 4 Million Chiaotzu (Post-Time Skip): 750,000 Yamcha (Post Time Skip): 950,000 Tien (Post-Time Skip): 1.1 Million Piccolo (Post-Time Skip, Training With A SSJ): 650 Million Vegeta (Post-Time Skip): 15 Million Nappa (Post-Time Skip): 9 Million Goku (Post-Time Skip): 18 Million Goku (Kaioken x50/SSJ): 900 Million Android 19: 550 Million Android 20: 600 Million Vegeta (SSJ): 750 Million Trunks (Post-Time Skip): 8 Million Imperfect Cell Saga: (All Z-Fighter Power Levels Stay The Same) Imperfect Cell: 645 Million Perfect Cell Saga: (All Z-Fighter Power Levels Stay The Same Except Goku) Perfect Cell: 20 Billion Goku (Post-Medicine, Tiny Zenkai): 18.1 Million Cell Games Saga: Piccolo (Post-Fusion): 1.5 Billion (TO BE CONTINUED --->) (End Of Part 3 Of Power Level Speculations)
Im not sure, Kaioken x 50 should have the same power as Regular SSJ So In theory yes Itd be a 2500 multiplier but Its Kind of hard to say if this would fully work
R.i.p master roshi I’m getting emotional because he’s been here for the whole entire dragon ball Français dragon ball-dragon ball super you will be missed roshi
Hey bro could you do What if Trunks was a human? Also sorry I didn't really quite understand the mistake on how Goku's power level should've been 7 million instead of 4 million.
@@EssentiallyBlack Like have Yamcha hook up with Bulma early before Vegeta came. Then Trunks would have more human blood than Saiyan blood. Finally being a human.
could have made goku go in with vegeta seeing as the threat in this timeline is much worse that could make vegeta unlock ssjgrade 4 and also learn the basic kaioken from him after he thinks he understands how that tehnique by itself made goku a low class warrior surpass the migthy prince vegeta and if he learns it he will no doubth surpass him in no time and even push the limits of kaioken higher than goku has this far
@@EssentiallyBlack he can sense energy he knows theres no way to beat cell unless he goes in twice so why not train with the strongest guy around only problem is that both of them wouldnt get to spend time with thier sons even if vegetas is from the future it still made huge impact on trunks
I hope krillin and 18 still be together on the next part and maybe with the kaioken and Super Saiyan could make Super kaioken, at least so Goku won't drain too much stamina. Anyway hope you have a good day and I know we won't forget about Master Roshi 😔💞👼 he'll always be are favorite master
What if piccolo went to king kais as a guest he could really benefit from the kaioken the strain wouldnt be that much because of piccolos rapid healing
Dope ideas just rushing through everything is a kill joy. Research properly and add details. Don't be scared to make a single saga 15 minutes. Also power levels are important.
Thanks! I choose to only go over power levels when its important or after training but I might do it more we'll see and It takes a lot of work to record and edit these so thats why its split up a 15 minute video would take very very long so foe the viewers sake and my sake I just split it
@@EssentiallyBlack ok how about taking one saga and splitting into two. That way the video is still short and easy to edit. The wont be rushed and there can be more episodes of the series for us to enjoy. Also you won't have to be rushed to come with new what if too fast . So please put more meat in the story. You can't give us skin and bones buddy. You can do this!!
Sounds like a good idea maybe for a special or something if it gets demand, I mainly wanna focus on the main story though thatd be a extra video perhaps for when the series is finished
Checked out some of your works your a good editor man! People like you deserve to be paid for such nice edits so I couldnt possibly say yes until I was able to pay you keep going man youre stuff is actually good fr
What if kid goku made a army and trained them like all the characters that were named but never did much like tao nail king whats his face form the tournament and bora and others
Arale in the ToP: Jiren isn't a god so she wrecks him but then immediately gets eliminated by a fodder character because she poked some poop. Gokule: He escapes with Dende and Vegeta to the Sacred World of the Kais then fuses into Vegito after the Gokule fusion ends, tracks down Buuhan and finishes him way faster allowing for Vegito to save all the others before defusing, meaning Goku is still at full power, Ultimate Gohan can get healed up and Kid Buu is screwed. So in the end, not much changes.
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Part 4 Out Now
R.I.P master roshi I'm literally crying here bro
🥺😢
@@EssentiallyBlack ik
I just found out 😭😭😭
@@Spiderman_-jo4ke We must eat,sleep, rest well and live up to the kame style #kamehamehaforver #restinpeacelegend
@@Gtz_Abdii bro I swear I love that fraze
What an og and great idea keep it up
Thanks appreciate it a lot
Your gonna blow up
Thanks man 👍
I'm craving part 4
Next few days 👀👀
@@EssentiallyBlack thanks
Nice what if new sub
PARTTTT 3
Tbh your one of the best what if youtubers i know
I like this I can't wait for the next part
Coming in the next few days watch out 👀
Master Roshi was the best part of Dbz, the show wouldn’t of been as good without him he’s one of the best characters
True
they go training for 30 years then go can go mui blue kaiokenxunlimited control with ssj5 limit breaker 3:34
I think the interesting thing about Kaioken-abuse is that the damage to the users body after using high levels would result in zenkais every time. I mean they aren't supposed to occur if self-inflicted, but that is very loose, since we can see Goku getting several zenkais (his Muscles literally get bigger and more refined) when training in the gravity room on the way to Namek.
This is facts
Super Saiyan + Mastered Kaioken = Super Saiyan KaioKen.
Honestly I don't it'll ever happen because a regular ssj has no ki control. Your ki leaks so much and it literally explodes in power. If he stacks kaioken on it, his body will literally blow up.
Robert Miles its super kaioken
Dark_ beast546 he was in the afterlife so he did not deal with the giant drain
@Dark_ beast546 Goku was already dead. That's like also saying Gokus ssj3 didn't drain him when Goku was already dead.
@Dark_ beast546 that was filler.
Yo growing crazy fast I'm jealous of the growth! Keep this up and you'll be at 1k or more by the end of next month!
Appreciate it man! Your jealous now but in a few weeks im finna be the one jealous you keep grinding to and you gonna be set
@@EssentiallyBlackwhat if goku had infinite stamina due to some defects in saiyan incubation chamber? please make a what if on it. I will love it😊
I just realized Goku kinda mastered Kaio Ken but not really but according to your meaning of Mastering of Kaio Ken it master's the strain on ones body so in the Freeza Saga it is stated that Goku could use Kaio Ken up to ×10 without problem so yeah. Just thought of that while using the bathroom ಠωಠ also love the series keep making more!
Yee but against frieza since he had way more time he was able to go up to x35
@@EssentiallyBlack true true
I want to cry
😞
@@EssentiallyBlack I will always remember that pevert
We all will
I have a fire what if that no one has done before. What if piccolo could heal people like dende. This shit would be fire af because piccolo could legit be the turning table in some battles.
Yeah thats true with a little bit of polishing maybe it turns into 'what if piccolo wasn't a warrior type namekian?' since theres a farmer namekian than a warrior type so i could see that actually
EssentiallyBlack yeah it would tremendously boost the hyperbolic time chamber because piccolo doesn’t need to eat or sleep🤣🤣 he could just lay back and heal up the warriors so that they could non stop keep training.
EssentiallyBlack instead of him not being a warrior type Namekian, you could say he got it from merging with Kami, as healing seems to be something from the type of namekian Dende is, which is the same as Kami.
TBalpha22 then they would never go to namek since kami fused with piccolo and became a dragon clan namekian and piccolo would just make another set of dragon balls
RollxN Crazy yeah um Piccolo and Kami fused in the androids saga, the reason they went to namek was because both Piccolo and Kami died.
yo bro great what if keep up the good work
Thanks Man I appreciate it I work super hard on these and try to keep great quality in them Glad to see people appreciate it lol
EssentiallyBlack yea man just keep pushing like sometimes u gonna wanna just stop cuz u not feeling motivated or sum like that but u gotta just push past that stuff if u ever have health issues of any kind take your time and then go hard from one youtuber to another u just gotta be happy with the content you put out and make sure ur not just doing it to please everyone else and then your not happy cuz it will show in the what if so make sure you just take your time and then you’ll be on the level of the greats especially since your ideas are great and different so keep coming out with this type of stuff still gucci
Rip Master Roshi, also I love this series. Keep making them and hope you can make them even quicker once you get into it.
Appreciate it man Ill see
This is the problem of the digital age, no matter what it is, being online provides instant gratification... kids these days have no patience and expect everything fast and don't realize all the money, time, and effort it takes to think these up, write a script (if not multiple), record it/do multiple voice takes, cut it and edit all the pictures into it and then post it by a certain deadline. This isn't his day job, he probably works anywhere from 8-12 hours, if he sleeps for 8 hours that leaves 4-8 hours for everything else including making these videos. Relax, be patient, and don't expect free entertainment videos to pop out as quickly as babies from a hooker.
R.I.P master roshi
R.I.P master roshi let us take a minute of silence...
Great what if
He DID
?
Ayeee that intro kinda 🔥🔥🔥
Part 4 plz
Soon
I'm glad you fixed that. I'm also surprised i was the only one to realise the mistake you made, but i'm glad you found a fix around it. Goku not realising his full power is a pretty smart thought
Appreciate it wouldn't have been fixed unless you said something
@GodRoyale the zenkai on the 2nd part on the normal series he went from 100k to 3 mil but he said in the 2nd part he said he went from 100k to 1 mil
lol you said captain cold and not king cold 2:39
Bro ive been making this mistake for months now even today! 😂😂
R.I.P master roshi noo so sad
SUPER KIOKEN
Super Saiyan + kioken
Rip roshi 😢
Vegeta, nappa, and gohan will still have their tails, so maybe vegeta masters super saiyan in this timeline. He's stronger, nicer, and it could give him a key to that wrathful state.
Or It could give him a key to something else, something in dragon ball gt that also requires you to be a great ape 👀
@@EssentiallyBlack True true. If all 3 saiyans get that I feel bad for babadi
Do a what if u7 lost to u6
This mean that earth would be in u6 and the t.o.p would be interesting to see what u7 team would be.
Ollie Lawson Moro and Broly
Dude, it’s a good idea but it’s to late in the series. We need multiple parts this what if would only have around two parts max and that’s if he extends the shit out of the videos
Btw someone already did this but it would be a cool to see a different idea of what if U7 lost to U6
But what about future trunks
I love it channel
will nappa start a family in this? he could get with bulma's older sister tights potentially
Thats a great idea didnt even think of that might check it out thanks for the idea
@@EssentiallyBlack Awesome! Hes pretty old but I bet he could still have atleast one oid with tights before they got too old. I mean Bulma had Bra at like 41 years old so
Thank you again so much for this idea! This happens in the what if which comes out today It really helped me not forget about nappa as a character so hes good now I would have been lost without this small comment! 🙏🏽
teach kk to gohan !!
All that time in the hyperbolic time chamber... I wonder?
@@EssentiallyBlack i like where youre going with this 😱 also you really remind me of this other dbz what if guy named "tylearn" youre like a mix of him and salad and im enjoying it keep up the good work!
Jesus freeza didnt have a chance😂
Yes it's finally out
The zenkai would be lower because he wasn’t as wounded as the original
Its really hard to calculate something as spontaneous as zenkai boosts as theyre just plot so Since I cant calculate the exact power level I thought itd be best to go with the original keep in mind this is my first what if series so later on ill think more about that stuff thanks for commenting this leaves me with something to think about for later
Aight Since He Didn't Do Many Power Levels, I Will
Pre-Trunks Saga
Goku (Post-Zenkai + Discovered Power): 7 Million
Gohan (Potential Awakened Fully): 800,000
Krillin (Potential Awakened Fully): 600,000
Chiaotzu (Post-Training): 20,000
Yamcha (Post-Training): 75,000
Tien (Post-Training): 80,000
Piccolo (Post-Training): 100,000
Vegeta: 135,000
Nappa (Post-Zenkai): 6,500
Trunks Saga:
Goku (Post-Yardrat Training): 10 Million
Gohan (Post-Time Skip): 3 Million
Krillin (Post-Time Skip): 1.2 Million
Chiaotzu (Post-TIme Skip): 400,000
Yamcha (Post-Time Skip): 550,000
Tien (Post-Time Skip): 750,000
Piccolo (Post-Time Skip): 4 Million
Vegeta (Post-Time Skip): 6 Million
Nappa (Post-Time Skip): 125,000
Mecha Frieza: 140 Million
King Cold (2nd Form): 140 Million
Trunks: 7 Million
Trunks (SSJ): 350 Million
Android Saga:
Gohan (Post-Time Skip): 8 Million
Krillin (Post-Time Skip): 4 Million
Chiaotzu (Post-Time Skip): 750,000
Yamcha (Post Time Skip): 950,000
Tien (Post-Time Skip): 1.1 Million
Piccolo (Post-Time Skip, Training With A SSJ): 650 Million
Vegeta (Post-Time Skip): 15 Million
Nappa (Post-Time Skip): 9 Million
Goku (Post-Time Skip): 18 Million
Goku (Kaioken x50/SSJ): 900 Million
Android 19: 550 Million
Android 20: 600 Million
Vegeta (SSJ): 750 Million
Trunks (Post-Time Skip): 8 Million
Imperfect Cell Saga:
(All Z-Fighter Power Levels Stay The Same)
Imperfect Cell: 645 Million
Perfect Cell Saga:
(All Z-Fighter Power Levels Stay The Same Except Goku)
Perfect Cell: 20 Billion
Goku (Post-Medicine, Tiny Zenkai): 18.1 Million
Cell Games Saga:
Piccolo (Post-Fusion): 1.5 Billion
(TO BE CONTINUED --->)
(End Of Part 3 Of Power Level Speculations)
Yooo 💀💀💀 thats crazy
Wait wouldn’t ssj and kkx50 be a 2500 multiplier so how was he still in the millions after that
@@str9306 that doesn't mean kk on top of ssj, its means kaioken x50 OR ssj dummy
Preston Garvey shut up and go back to fallout 3 bitch
@@str9306 you got two statements about me wrong, 1: assuming i shut up. 2: im from fallout 4
*L A R G E G R E E N M A N*
Yes sirrr I wanted to say it from the perspective of the Z fighters until he said his name
Super saiyan + kioken x50 is a 2,500 multiplier from the base right?
Im not sure, Kaioken x 50 should have the same power as Regular SSJ So In theory yes Itd be a 2500 multiplier but Its Kind of hard to say if this would fully work
That’s more than ssj3 wtf
R.i.p master roshi
I’m getting emotional because he’s been here for the whole entire dragon ball Français dragon ball-dragon ball super you will be missed roshi
Hey bro could you do What if Trunks was a human? Also sorry I didn't really quite understand the mistake on how Goku's power level should've been 7 million instead of 4 million.
Its from part 2 but i just didnt do calculations right
@@EssentiallyBlack oh ok. Also could you do What if Trunks was a human please?
@@aadenturnbull1332 i mean I'm not sure how that would work lol
@@EssentiallyBlack Like have Yamcha hook up with Bulma early before Vegeta came. Then Trunks would have more human blood than Saiyan blood. Finally being a human.
This doesnt change the story much tho hes just a lot weaker
What if King Kai taught Goku fusion?
could have made goku go in with vegeta seeing as the threat in this timeline is much worse that could make vegeta unlock ssjgrade 4 and also learn the basic kaioken from him after he thinks he understands how that tehnique by itself made goku a low class warrior surpass the migthy prince vegeta and if he learns it he will no doubth surpass him in no time and even push the limits of kaioken higher than goku has this far
Dont Think Vegeta would ever wanna learn from or train with goku
@@EssentiallyBlack he can sense energy he knows theres no way to beat cell unless he goes in twice so why not train with the strongest guy around only problem is that both of them wouldnt get to spend time with thier sons even if vegetas is from the future it still made huge impact on trunks
For My Story I just felt more comftorable having Goku go in with Gohan
I hope krillin and 18 still be together on the next part and maybe with the kaioken and Super Saiyan could make Super kaioken, at least so Goku won't drain too much stamina. Anyway hope you have a good day and I know we won't forget about Master Roshi 😔💞👼 he'll always be are favorite master
I’m so happy :D
What if piccolo went to king kais as a guest he could really benefit from the kaioken the strain wouldnt be that much because of piccolos rapid healing
oh gosh cell probably has the androids oh wait he does
reward time
Is Trunks born?
When is going to be another part :)
Not sure and yeah if I forgot to mention that my bad
Wait so unless they get roshi out of db or a new actor db is done
Probably a new actor
Dope ideas just rushing through everything is a kill joy. Research properly and add details. Don't be scared to make a single saga 15 minutes. Also power levels are important.
Everything else is dope though!
Also the humans should master it too
Thanks! I choose to only go over power levels when its important or after training but I might do it more we'll see and It takes a lot of work to record and edit these so thats why its split up a 15 minute video would take very very long so foe the viewers sake and my sake I just split it
@@EssentiallyBlack ok how about taking one saga and splitting into two. That way the video is still short and easy to edit. The wont be rushed and there can be more episodes of the series for us to enjoy. Also you won't have to be rushed to come with new what if too fast . So please put more meat in the story. You can't give us skin and bones buddy. You can do this!!
Thats possible with the buu saga so ill possibly try that or just add more details I guess appreciated it ill see what i can do
Um... why not show what happened in the/a Future Timeline... where Nappa is still alive?
Sounds like a good idea maybe for a special or something if it gets demand, I mainly wanna focus on the main story though thatd be a extra video perhaps for when the series is finished
Master roshi died?
The japanese va died yes
@@EssentiallyBlack damn🥺
Please do this what if the humans became saiyains after the cell saga basically at the start of the 7 years
I make amvs and I wanted to let u know that I love ur videos soo much that I will make an intro for u if u want
Checked out some of your works your a good editor man! People like you deserve to be paid for such nice edits so I couldnt possibly say yes until I was able to pay you keep going man youre stuff is actually good fr
Actually bruh hit me up Im tryna see some more of your stuff you fr got nice edits you got discord or a email?
@@EssentiallyBlack just hit me up on instagram @Wambo_combo.editz
@@lorr.enzooo bet
Next What if youtuber, Where i wait for his video's every day.
Sixtieth!
What if kid goku made a army and trained them like all the characters that were named but never did much like tao nail king whats his face form the tournament and bora and others
OMG do I sense supper sayajin kaioken hmmmmmmmm
amazing what if cant wait until another one have u ever thought of doing mha what ifs or nartuo what ifs
I havent But thats a possibility I wanna be more focused on demon slayer and dbz things
#NOT1ST
April fool what if "what if arale was in the tournament of power" or
"What of goku fused with hurcule in the buu saga"
Just a thought
Arale in the ToP: Jiren isn't a god so she wrecks him but then immediately gets eliminated by a fodder character because she poked some poop.
Gokule: He escapes with Dende and Vegeta to the Sacred World of the Kais then fuses into Vegito after the Gokule fusion ends, tracks down Buuhan and finishes him way faster allowing for Vegito to save all the others before defusing, meaning Goku is still at full power, Ultimate Gohan can get healed up and Kid Buu is screwed. So in the end, not much changes.
And third
Second
First!!!