Crazy idea: In this what-if Goku didn't died so I'll be hard for him to unlock ssj 3. Maybe instead he tries his Mastered Kaioken (x2 or x3) on top of his ssj 2, with lots of strain to his body afterwards of course. It may be possible due to his mastery of the technique and that would keep the what-if topic relevant in the Buu saga.
EssentiallyBlack there is a advanced form of SSJ2 called FullPower SSJ2 where it’s as powerfull as SSJ3 but it doesn’t have the stamina problem like the third level. You can have Gohan, Goku and Vegeta achieve this form some time in the future
Cyflan No that’s a completely new form entirely as SSJRage has a different look Full Power SSJ2 doesn’t really change your appearance from normal SSJ2 as Vegeta state’s in the manga
I won't lie, chief, I haven't seen any of your content besides this what-if. However, I really enjoy what this is and I hope you continue to make content -even if it isn't like this tbh (also ur voice is sick af damn)
@@EssentiallyBlack He should have a daughter that becomes a crush for trunks, and also be in charge of training trunks and goten as a sort of uncle figure. That coul help him remain even more relevant
Alright Since He Didn't Do Any Power Levels, I Will Cell Games Saga: Perfect Cell: 20 Billion Vegeta (Post-HTC Training): 304 Million (SSJ = 15.2 Billion, SSJ Grade 2 = 19 Billion, SSJ Grade 3 = 22.8 Billion) Trunks (Post-HTC Training): 304 Million (SSJ = 15.2 Billion, SSJ Grade 2 = 19 Billion, SSJ Grade 3 = 22.8 Billion) Goku (Post-HTC Training, Mastered SSJ): 19 Billion (Base = 380 Million) Gohan (Post-HTC Training, Mastered SSJ): 20 Billion (Base = 400 Million) Nappa (Post-HTC Training): 75 Million (SSJ = 3.75 Billion) Piccolo (Post-HTC Training): 3.80 Billion Chiaoutzu (Post-Training): 760,000 Yamcha (Post-Training): 1 Million Tien (Post-Training): 2 Million Krillin (Post-Training): 5 Million Goku (Post-Cell Fight, Tired): 17 Billion Perfect Cell (Post-Goku Fight): 21 Billion Gohan (Anger Growing): 20.5 Billion Cell Jr: 19 Billion Gohan (SSJ2): 40 Billion Gohan (SSJ2, Super Kamehameha): 50 Billion Great Saiyaman Saga: Videl (Post-Gohan Training): 80 Gohan (Post-Time Skip, Mastered SSJ): 30 Billion (Base = 600 Million) Goten: 150 Million (SSJ = 7.5 Billion) Trunks: 160 Million (SSJ = 8 Billion) Goku (Post-Time Skip, Mastered SSJ): 29 Billion (Base = 580 Million) Vegeta (Post-Time Skip): 580 Million (SSJ = 29 Billion, Grade Forms Are Now Redundant) Piccolo (Post-Time Skip): 9 Billion Android 18: 1.4 Billion Android 17: 1.5 Billion Nappa (Post-Time Skip): 400 Million (SSJ = 20 Billion) World Tournament Saga: (All Z-Fighters Stay The Same As Before) Kaioshin: 6 Billion Spopovich: 2500 Yamu: 2600 Gohan (SSJ2): 60 Billion Gohan (SSJ2, Restrained By Kaioshin): 1500 (End Of Part 4 Of Power Level Speculations, I'm Guessing Your Asking "Why Are You Doing Power Levels In The BUU SAGA?!?!?!" Well My Answer: We Need Some Kinda Scaling And I'm Here To Bring It, With My Estimates Not Being Lowballed Or Highballed, And Using Official Power Levels Whenever I Can, With Mostly Official Multipliers, Except For The Grade Forms, I Just Went With Grade 2 Being 25% More Than Grade 1/4 And Grade 3 Being 50% More Than Grade 1/4, And Making Grade 4 The Same Power As Grade 1, Cause Grade 4 Is Just Grade 1 Without Any Stamina Drain, Mastered Doesn't Always Mean Stronger, Like How This What-If Is About Mastering Kaioken, It Doesn't Make It Stronger Unless You Use A Higher Multiplier, It Just Makes The Strain More Manageable)
This makes me wonder of an idea where everything was normal except the champa saga... As usual both Goku and Vegeta train in the room of space and time for 3 yrs, but goku had an idea, back then goku had the mastered super saiyan form, eventually goku brings it up that what if they train with their super saiyan god form... It was just in my head after watching this
another banger will we see ultimate form goku? 😎 i feel like goku would want that power and vegeta will be able to hold off buu cos hes stronger in this one and he wont be able to become majin cos goku is alive. so if theres barely danger goku will get the form
This is amazing content by the way could you consider making a channel discord for all of us to suggest content and we can have debates and stuff please consider this
This was an idea I had months ago but Dragon ball is written in such a way where most what if's end in everybody dying theres no rhyme or reason its just how its written and that what if ends the same way everybody dying thats why most what if's take a good amount of thinking and planning because if done wrong everybody just dies, Appreciate the comment man if only dragon ball was written in a way where I could use this idea things would be much more simple
If they keep up the trend of the briefs family name, they're eventually going to end up with either a child named Panties or knickers. Such a weird name trend. Shitstained would be hilarious, get over here 'Shitstained briefs'.
Not sure, Im gonna upload 1-2 different videos of other series than im gonna get back to this one I can understand people wanting more of this but really trying to not only be known for that series but you have my word this series will 100% be finished
@@prestongarvey2599 k bud it was officially licensed by toriyama you would know that if you did research it was made in Japan then translated to Spanish bud 🗿🗿 so try again
Hey bro I have a quick question? Would it be possible if Goku could master super saiyan 3 and combine the mastered kaioken to make SUPER KAIOKEN 3. Or some other name for it....
Its very hard to say, A SSJ Kaioken was said to explode the users body so I dont think it could ever happen as it would take immense ki control thats why ssb can do it since SSB is amazing for Ki Control but You said he mastered ssj3 so, Maybe? Im not sure definitely wouldn't see anything past kaioken x4 for it though if it happend
@@EssentiallyBlack Yeah super kaioken 3 would probably destroy Gokus body even if he mastered ssj3. The reason is probably because too much power on his body.
In my eyes the main factor that determines how long a video should be is how much story is told in a what if, If I made this 10 minutes I feel it would throw off the pacing Im glad you want more of the what if but unless I tell the story very slowly not sure if I can do 10 minutes but Ill see next video I have is definitely gonna be around 10 minutes though
EssentiallyBlack but I feel like goku being 4 million times stronger in the freiza arc and him only focusing on kaioken and strength and speed could make him edge out Gohan
wait i am confused there was a 7 years time skip and gohan was not training as much as goku and vegeta cause of school but he is still the srtongest z fighter?
Remember, Goku and Vegeta Survived and I said in the video 'Goku and Vegeta were interested in that ssj2 state Gohan had gotten so they beg him to keep up with his training a little bit and he does'
But thats how it is in the main series? Happend in DBS and in DBZ Half Saiyans still grow stronger faster, And I said gohan kept his training up just not full time
@@EssentiallyBlack I just don't think gohan would be that much because goku and vegeta would be trying to go past gohan while gohan doesn't seem to do the same
Story telling is still too fast bro. Also goku would win because he mastered kaioken, super saiyan grade 4 +( kaioken ×2) = the same power as ss2 and if he mastered kaioken than that would mean super saiyan grade 4 + kaioken × 10 = 50×10=500 which is more powerful than ss3(400×base). So cell would be nothing and ss2 and ss3 would be easier to get for goku and gohan(learnt kaioken from goku) because super saiyan grade 4 + kaioken ×10 consumes more stamina and strains the body more than ss3 . Which also mean5 goku and gohan could possibly perfect ss2 and ss3(perfect ss3 is more possible for goku because gohan and school). Therefore for goku to be able to use ss3 with at least kaioken×2 for buu and ×4 when fighting Berus. Also if goku is alive than goten gets train by goku which makes goten get ss1 first before trunks and makes him stronger than trunks and he knows kaioken on top of being stronger. So even without fusion goten and trunks still can fight buu because goten will make trunks stronger and they both can get ss2 before buu happens. We still get majin vageta because he doesn't get kaioken and can't get ss3 even though his ss2 is stronger than conon. I wish I was in your script writing team because your videos are great but you keep rushing script and your missing out on golden plot points and story extensions. Remember my last comments on the previous parts? This is why...
Yeah I realized it was too fast. im reworking my next script to be much slower thanks also about the ssj kaioken thing its very unsure if itll happen I might make it happen I might not it ruins logic but its just a what if I made a poll for it though
@@EssentiallyBlack by the way I just edited the first comment. Don't worry I am still totally tuned in next time too. You don't need to go buck on kaioken bro. ×2 and ×4 are more realistic on top of mastered ss1 and ss2 but only ×2 for ss3. It doesn't kill logic because we still need super saiyan god and without gotenks we need kaioken if ss3 goku is still not enough for super buu and if we still get majin vageta than he still dies(right before he gets ss3) which means we still get super buu and mystic gohan if you right it well (mystic kaioken gohan would be awesome against Berus bro) . Without gotenks the kids would get stronger and more experienced which means they would get more involved with return of frieza and universe 6 tournament and tournament of power because at best they would be at ss2+ kaioken×4 which is stronger than cadda and califla but not kale and thats good because they still contribute well even though golden frieza isn't there and a stronger goku and gohan would mean they won't call frieza or tien which makes The T.O.P more risky and interesting. Like potara fused trunks and goten who knows kaioken. Go wild bro its a what if for gods sake .
Part 4 let’s go!!!!!!!
Crazy idea:
In this what-if Goku didn't died so I'll be hard for him to unlock ssj 3. Maybe instead he tries his Mastered Kaioken (x2 or x3) on top of his ssj 2, with lots of strain to his body afterwards of course. It may be possible due to his mastery of the technique and that would keep the what-if topic relevant in the Buu saga.
👀👀👀👀 gonna come out with another video tommorow asking somethings regarding this topic and stuff thanks!
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Apologies Mic quality Slowly Decreased as I got quiter I didnt notice this and my speech started slurring a bit, My Fault Ill be more aware next time
EssentiallyBlack there is a advanced form of SSJ2 called FullPower SSJ2 where it’s as powerfull as SSJ3 but it doesn’t have the stamina problem like the third level. You can have Gohan, Goku and Vegeta achieve this form some time in the future
@@maximillianoorosco-randhaw9336 That is not a thing in canon.
Cyflan actually it is future Trunks in the DBS manga used this power against SSJ3 Goku
@@maximillianoorosco-randhaw9336 Isn't that's Super Saiyan Rage
Cyflan No that’s a completely new form entirely as SSJRage has a different look Full Power SSJ2 doesn’t really change your appearance from normal SSJ2 as Vegeta state’s in the manga
One of my favourite dbz what if youtubers Rn!
Youre quickly becoming one of my top 10 dragon ball what ifers
Appreciate it
I won't lie, chief, I haven't seen any of your content besides this what-if. However, I really enjoy what this is and I hope you continue to make content -even if it isn't like this tbh
(also ur voice is sick af damn)
Nice what if! thanks for taking my idea
Yes sirrr nappa would have became irrelevant asf if you didnt comment that appreciate it
@@EssentiallyBlack He should have a daughter that becomes a crush for trunks, and also be in charge of training trunks and goten as a sort of uncle figure. That coul help him remain even more relevant
We will see
Alright Since He Didn't Do Any Power Levels, I Will
Cell Games Saga:
Perfect Cell: 20 Billion
Vegeta (Post-HTC Training): 304 Million (SSJ = 15.2 Billion, SSJ Grade 2 = 19 Billion, SSJ Grade 3 = 22.8 Billion)
Trunks (Post-HTC Training): 304 Million (SSJ = 15.2 Billion, SSJ Grade 2 = 19 Billion, SSJ Grade 3 = 22.8 Billion)
Goku (Post-HTC Training, Mastered SSJ): 19 Billion (Base = 380 Million)
Gohan (Post-HTC Training, Mastered SSJ): 20 Billion (Base = 400 Million)
Nappa (Post-HTC Training): 75 Million (SSJ = 3.75 Billion)
Piccolo (Post-HTC Training): 3.80 Billion
Chiaoutzu (Post-Training): 760,000
Yamcha (Post-Training): 1 Million
Tien (Post-Training): 2 Million
Krillin (Post-Training): 5 Million
Goku (Post-Cell Fight, Tired): 17 Billion
Perfect Cell (Post-Goku Fight): 21 Billion
Gohan (Anger Growing): 20.5 Billion
Cell Jr: 19 Billion
Gohan (SSJ2): 40 Billion
Gohan (SSJ2, Super Kamehameha): 50 Billion
Great Saiyaman Saga:
Videl (Post-Gohan Training): 80
Gohan (Post-Time Skip, Mastered SSJ): 30 Billion (Base = 600 Million)
Goten: 150 Million (SSJ = 7.5 Billion)
Trunks: 160 Million (SSJ = 8 Billion)
Goku (Post-Time Skip, Mastered SSJ): 29 Billion (Base = 580 Million)
Vegeta (Post-Time Skip): 580 Million (SSJ = 29 Billion, Grade Forms Are Now Redundant)
Piccolo (Post-Time Skip): 9 Billion
Android 18: 1.4 Billion
Android 17: 1.5 Billion
Nappa (Post-Time Skip): 400 Million (SSJ = 20 Billion)
World Tournament Saga:
(All Z-Fighters Stay The Same As Before)
Kaioshin: 6 Billion
Spopovich: 2500
Yamu: 2600
Gohan (SSJ2): 60 Billion
Gohan (SSJ2, Restrained By Kaioshin): 1500
(End Of Part 4 Of Power Level Speculations, I'm Guessing Your Asking "Why Are You Doing Power Levels In The BUU SAGA?!?!?!" Well My Answer: We Need Some Kinda Scaling And I'm Here To Bring It, With My Estimates Not Being Lowballed Or Highballed, And Using Official Power Levels Whenever I Can, With Mostly Official Multipliers, Except For The Grade Forms, I Just Went With Grade 2 Being 25% More Than Grade 1/4 And Grade 3 Being 50% More Than Grade 1/4, And Making Grade 4 The Same Power As Grade 1, Cause Grade 4 Is Just Grade 1 Without Any Stamina Drain, Mastered Doesn't Always Mean Stronger, Like How This What-If Is About Mastering Kaioken, It Doesn't Make It Stronger Unless You Use A Higher Multiplier, It Just Makes The Strain More Manageable)
This makes me wonder of an idea where everything was normal except the champa saga...
As usual both Goku and Vegeta train in the room of space and time for 3 yrs, but goku had an idea, back then goku had the mastered super saiyan form, eventually goku brings it up that what if they train with their super saiyan god form... It was just in my head after watching this
Hmm 🤔🤔🤔
Wow this was a Awesome what-if dude! 'Glad I found your channel! 'Can't wait for the next Part!
Bro this is so good, you are super underrated and deserve more subs
Appreciate it big man
Ah yes, another realistic what if. That's all I asked for a realistic what if...
*AND I GOT IT!*
Yes finally
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can you upload every day plz your what if is very good plz
The quality of the video would quickly decrease if I did one everyday
oh ok
another banger will we see ultimate form goku? 😎 i feel like goku would want that power and vegeta will be able to hold off buu cos hes stronger in this one and he wont be able to become majin cos goku is alive. so if theres barely danger goku will get the form
I hadn't thought about that but its definitely interesting
@@EssentiallyBlack i think it would be a great asset and goku would most likely combine form
Second 😁😁😁
This is amazing content by the way could you consider making a channel discord for all of us to suggest content and we can have debates and stuff please consider this
That sounds like a great idea! Sure ill do it ill announce it next video I was thinking of this but I didnt think anybody would join but we will see
Tights is into dilfs lol
I think SSJ Kaio Ken should be a thing but if it kills the user, I think Goku should restrict himself to only ×2-3
Thats what I was thinking to
Here’s a what if
What if Goku never sacrificed himself in the fight with raditz
This was an idea I had months ago but Dragon ball is written in such a way where most what if's end in everybody dying theres no rhyme or reason its just how its written and that what if ends the same way everybody dying thats why most what if's take a good amount of thinking and planning because if done wrong everybody just dies, Appreciate the comment man if only dragon ball was written in a way where I could use this idea things would be much more simple
I see you’re using the renders I told you about 😂
Yes sirrr thanks 😂😂😂
If they keep up the trend of the briefs family name, they're eventually going to end up with either a child named Panties or knickers. Such a weird name trend.
Shitstained would be hilarious, get over here 'Shitstained briefs'.
First
When is the next episode coming out? Not trying to pressure you though since quality is better than quantity for me...
Not sure, Im gonna upload 1-2 different videos of other series than im gonna get back to this one I can understand people wanting more of this but really trying to not only be known for that series but you have my word this series will 100% be finished
Just wanna say this MSSJ gohan is far stronger than perfect cell as its stated in the el manga legendario
He hasnt literallt mastered it yet but very close directly after he probably masters it
@@EssentiallyBlack I was talking about the main dbz canon not this what if
Ohhh my fault yeah you right
@@dreamy8899 your trusting something that sounds spanish, when DBZ was made in japan... k then
@@prestongarvey2599 k bud it was officially licensed by toriyama you would know that if you did research it was made in Japan then translated to Spanish bud 🗿🗿 so try again
Hey bro I have a quick question? Would it be possible if Goku could master super saiyan 3 and combine the mastered kaioken to make SUPER KAIOKEN 3. Or some other name for it....
Its very hard to say, A SSJ Kaioken was said to explode the users body so I dont think it could ever happen as it would take immense ki control thats why ssb can do it since SSB is amazing for Ki Control but You said he mastered ssj3 so, Maybe? Im not sure definitely wouldn't see anything past kaioken x4 for it though if it happend
@@EssentiallyBlack Yeah super kaioken 3 would probably destroy Gokus body even if he mastered ssj3. The reason is probably because too much power on his body.
I have a what if for you what if you did 10 minute videos
In my eyes the main factor that determines how long a video should be is how much story is told in a what if, If I made this 10 minutes I feel it would throw off the pacing Im glad you want more of the what if but unless I tell the story very slowly not sure if I can do 10 minutes but Ill see next video I have is definitely gonna be around 10 minutes though
@@EssentiallyBlack Yay!!!
Wait will goku not have a ssj3 form?
I think goku would be stronger than Gohan in this timeline cause of his extra training and he’s just also stronger in the timeline. In the cell saga
Im not sure actually, but I felt more comftorable saying Gohan was stronger
EssentiallyBlack but I feel like goku being 4 million times stronger in the freiza arc and him only focusing on kaioken and strength and speed could make him edge out Gohan
wait i am confused there was a 7 years time skip and gohan was not training as much as goku and vegeta cause of school but he is still the srtongest z fighter?
Remember, Goku and Vegeta Survived and I said in the video 'Goku and Vegeta were interested in that ssj2 state Gohan had gotten so they beg him to keep up with his training a little bit and he does'
So since he kept up with it a bit I feel its plausible hes still the strongest
@@EssentiallyBlack so do goku and vegeta have super saiyan 2?
Its very possible havent written the script for the video yet, Working on a different big video
Make Goku master ssj3
It makes me sad when see a what if say Gohan doesn't focus on training but is still stronger than goku a vegeta when they training full time
But thats how it is in the main series? Happend in DBS and in DBZ Half Saiyans still grow stronger faster, And I said gohan kept his training up just not full time
@@EssentiallyBlack I just don't think gohan would be that much because goku and vegeta would be trying to go past gohan while gohan doesn't seem to do the same
Y didn't Goku use the super kaioken(not complaining. Great video)
Go to the next part i explain it there
Story telling is still too fast bro. Also goku would win because he mastered kaioken, super saiyan grade 4 +( kaioken ×2) = the same power as ss2 and if he mastered kaioken than that would mean super saiyan grade 4 + kaioken × 10 = 50×10=500 which is more powerful than ss3(400×base). So cell would be nothing and ss2 and ss3 would be easier to get for goku and gohan(learnt kaioken from goku) because super saiyan grade 4 + kaioken ×10 consumes more stamina and strains the body more than ss3 . Which also mean5 goku and gohan could possibly perfect ss2 and ss3(perfect ss3 is more possible for goku because gohan and school). Therefore for goku to be able to use ss3 with at least kaioken×2 for buu and ×4 when fighting Berus. Also if goku is alive than goten gets train by goku which makes goten get ss1 first before trunks and makes him stronger than trunks and he knows kaioken on top of being stronger. So even without fusion goten and trunks still can fight buu because goten will make trunks stronger and they both can get ss2 before buu happens. We still get majin vageta because he doesn't get kaioken and can't get ss3 even though his ss2 is stronger than conon. I wish I was in your script writing team because your videos are great but you keep rushing script and your missing out on golden plot points and story extensions. Remember my last comments on the previous parts? This is why...
Yeah I realized it was too fast. im reworking my next script to be much slower thanks also about the ssj kaioken thing its very unsure if itll happen I might make it happen I might not it ruins logic but its just a what if I made a poll for it though
@@EssentiallyBlack by the way I just edited the first comment. Don't worry I am still totally tuned in next time too. You don't need to go buck on kaioken bro. ×2 and ×4 are more realistic on top of mastered ss1 and ss2 but only ×2 for ss3. It doesn't kill logic because we still need super saiyan god and without gotenks we need kaioken if ss3 goku is still not enough for super buu and if we still get majin vageta than he still dies(right before he gets ss3) which means we still get super buu and mystic gohan if you right it well (mystic kaioken gohan would be awesome against Berus bro) . Without gotenks the kids would get stronger and more experienced which means they would get more involved with return of frieza and universe 6 tournament and tournament of power because at best they would be at ss2+ kaioken×4 which is stronger than cadda and califla but not kale and thats good because they still contribute well even though golden frieza isn't there and a stronger goku and gohan would mean they won't call frieza or tien which makes The T.O.P more risky and interesting. Like potara fused trunks and goten who knows kaioken. Go wild bro its a what if for gods sake .
@@EssentiallyBlack remember goku used super kaioken in other world so mastered kaioken with ss forms is totally useable bro!!
He used it in other world because he was already dead he couldnt do it in the real world he said he'd blow up
@@EssentiallyBlack but in your what if he mastered kaioken so there's no reason to blow up.