Both are great in their own right. I personally sold my Steamdeck og and bought an ROG Ally, as i wasnt too impressed with the decks power. Never had to deal with the SD card issues with the Ally, as i upgraded to a 2tb SSD. Overall super happy with the ally ^^
I have both and I stopped using the ally after I got the oled. 3 reasons: Oled screen and HDR is a bigger deal in person. Quick resume. I’m tired of waiting a minute for my ally to turn on and then another 3 mins to get into a game. And guess what, doing that you lose 3-5% of the battery. Last but definitely not least. I can get 3.5 hours of god of war on the oled deck. 70 mins or less on the rog ally.
Only a big deal id both are set at 720p but set the game on the Ally on 1080p and you will see the difference between 1080p and 720p. 1080p is always gonna be sharper.
Everyone has valve to thanks for the release of more powerful handheld pc at affordable pricing. If not for Valve willing to sell at a loss, the ROG Ally might cost $1000 at launch.
nah more like neither of these big PC manufacturers see the appeal of handheld PCs lol... they did this because Valve made it mainstream with Steam Deck.
I only have the OG steam deck. It was fairly good and I was, for the most part, happy with it.I don't care for Linux. Bought the Ally during a Best Buy sale for $600 and I'm very impressed with it. The VRR capability of the screen is massive, and so is the 1080p resolution upgrade. The Ally does have some quirks I'm working through, but this will most likely be my new handheld
Same experience I had. I hate proton and can’t stand linking folders to make EA Play or any other third party launcher to work. Pc has heroic launcher too btw
@@Seanbo88 navigating windows with the ally isnt even as bad as people try to make it seem. more just people being nitpicky about things but playnite is great if its wanted.
Of all the handhelds I have, the Ally suites my needs best. I like my Decks for Steam but again, the Ally plays games it can't. Over all, of the Legion Go, steam decks and Ally I'm looking forward to a Ally 2 the most
I sold my steam deck about 3 months ago because it was just too much of a pain in the ass using proton to install games not on steam. I recently ordered an ally after the price drop and am excited to use it. It'll be so so much easier to install ocarina of time pc port and emulators without jumping through a dozen hoops on the deck to get things working. If you're only going to play steam games though, definitely get the deck.
I prefer the Legion Go over my oled deck and Ally go. I'm 55 y/old and my eyes need the big screen. My steam library is 1100 games, Lot's of the library won't work on the deck. It has x2 type-C usb 4 so you can attach an external 4TB SSD and maintain the charging at the same time. The big kickstand, detachable controls and it doesn't fry micro SD cards.
I have both (steamdeck OLED and Ally Z1E) and love both. However 90% of the time, I am drawn to the Ally. It is more flexible and I prefer higher fps and better visuals. Battery life is something you live with. I usually play at home so can just plug it in. If out, there are lots of power banks that will prolong your gaming session. The steamdeck needs those just as much
@anyvid100 can't say I've noticed any stuttering at all. I use FSR when available and RSR when not. Have you tried cleanly reinstalling the amd gpu drivers?
One reason I'm a PC gamer is I'm not bound to a single piece of hardware. I much rather play triple A titles on my gaming desktop hooked up to my 65" Oled TV. Games that requires a large screen yet doesn't required newer hardware I rather play on my 17" gaming laptop. Those PC games that my gaming desktop hardware would be overkill and doesn't require a large screen are the games I find works the best for a PC handheld. Hades is a good example. Dead Cells even looks better on a smaller screen then on my 65" screen. Those games runs well on the Deck with longer battery time. The one thing I want from my wireless devices is for them to be wireless. Battery life is very important to me when it comes to wireless devices.
For all the people that say you will regret buying the rog ally well i bought it on release and i play on it daily the whole family abuses it and it still works fine the only issue is the left joystick is wobbly because i dropped it but it still goes
You don’t know what you’re missing if you never had it lol it’s okay man. Tech advances quickly. Don’t get so attached…it’s a long painful road I’m telling you
Though I wont be trading in my OG Deck for several years or longer, I appreciate the comparison to know where things are headed, and who might be doing what better
11:46 That is the main catalyst reason why I have chosen the Ally over the deck. I have tried those aforementioned process when it comes to running game pass, and gog; it was a total mess.
@@EyeNVNo1 I'm a father and don't have time to game like that, or tethered, I have to watch my kid, I get that you love being tethered to a wall to game, I don't, enjoy you glorified laptop...
@@JDabz96 I guess it all comes down to personal preference and what you need out of a handheld. Having owned both devices, I use my ally much more because I prefer smaller and lighter devices. I also don't mind the fact it has low battery hours because I don't have time for very long gaming sessions anyway. To each their own.
@@JDabz96 Strange argument there buddy :D It's funny though, if you mess with the settings, you can closely match the SD in power / time. The SD does a lot at lower numbers no doubt, it's impressive, but once you move past 15w, it gets manhandled. I love the simplicity of SteamOS, but considering the SteamOS can't even play half of my Steam Library... yah... I'll stick to my glorified laptop, the Legion Go, that can play my ENTIRE Steam and Game pass libraries, not to mention all of the other platform's worth of games. I also don't care if I have to play plugged in, I only use it in my house anyways. All of these devices have pro's and con's, nature of the beast. Or, you can put windows on the SD :p I have grown to hate Win11 a lot as of late, but sadly it's still the best OS if you have a lot of games scattered about.
@MrNickpeck36 what do you mean half your steam library? No matter what, only like 10% of all steam games dont work on steam deck, and that's counting all the certain anticheat games mostly, and then I also play all my games on epicgames as well, no problems, the only thing you got right was that it was outpowered above 15w. Steam OS will be superior to windows for gaming once compatibility isn't a issue, otherwise, most gaming on the steam deck is as easy as clicking play.
I am confused,isnt the deck x86 and able to dual boot into windows 10-11 ? Meaning you can run a normal pc setup including launchers and so on .. If of course we are only talking about raw power,i would still prefer a cheaper more affordable unit with the ability to play a huge back catalogue of pc games from 2017 all the way back including tens of thousands of retro console and arcade games in most cases perfectly as well as have far superior battery life And lets be honest,many new games WILL run acceptable on deck too
Thank you, brother.. instant sub. The Steam Deck, while I enjoyed it, is a compatability nightmare. 720p is... Subpar and no VRR? Like C'mon Man! These Deck heads are delusional.. Hyping up track pads like they're a necessity. Yeah, you gone need those with all of the tinkering you gotta do to find the right ge proton layer just to get ya game running big dawg
I respect your opinion brother. tbh it all comes down to preference. the deck has battery life and the rog has performance. personally im not a hardcore gamer so i prefer the steam deck
@@joshdoesnotadventure756 but what do you do when your favorite game isn't super demanding or compatible? WWE 2k22, my favorite and non demanding, seemingly worked on SteamOS, but crashed arbitrarily and had a couple visual glitches. Running it on Windows on the Deck worked better.. but was terribly slow in any tag or multi-man match. If I want to play something demanding.. the Ally can do it. If I want to play something lightweight at a lower TDP for hours of battery life.. the Ally can do it. And the only tinkering you have to do is change the TDP, maybe lower the resolution with the little quick access button. And with Steam's new Big Picture Mode available on all platforms.. my Ally is essentially a beefier Deck. There's just not a good enough reason to stick around. I like OLED.. but at 720p? 😩
@@dirkwood4544 Yeah I really don’t know what to do about that, but all the games I like work with or without tweaking. I recently did a very long gameplay of like a dragon: ishin on extra high setting. For the most part it stayed at the same fps atleast for me. Probably because I have the steam deck oled though. Like I said though, it’s preference because personally I don’t like those types of games
A bit random but, since this is essentially a windows pc in a gaming shell, can I download software to update firmware and run updates via the usb port of the Ally for gaming controllers like my Thrustmaster steering wheel? I'm on Mac and have no way of doing so since their software is PC only.
The only thing the ROG Ally has over the Steam Deck, is over all performance Higher resolutions on handhelds is just cringe. It's great if it can handle all games at 1080p and still reach that rly high (for a mobile gaming device)120hz, but it can't. You're dropping it down to 720p anyways and cranking the W up to like 25. Getting like 45m-90m of battery life. Not much of a handheld, is it? I think going for full performance and higher resolutions on a handheld, especially when battery tech and hardware isn't all that impressive, is just dumb. Pure greed. Poor handheld design choice With the lack of a touch pad and a proper handheld OS, I think the Rog Ally is just under developed and poorly designed. Especially with the SD card placement and the use of RGB, as if the battery life wasn't alrdy the biggest issue It seems rushed and/or not given a lot of thought. Just throwing on Windows and slapping on higher specs like they're trying to 1-up the Steam Deck, but they're inefficient in erry other possible way The ROG Ally is definitely ahead of its time. With it's hardware and screen res, with the battery quality, they're getting ahead of themselves. You HAVE to keep it balanced. If you're going to put in these specs, you better also put in a battery that can keep up with it, or else you're better off building a stationary gaming rig as you'll be tethered to the wall anyways Again, poor design choices -- The Deck is an extremely well designed handheld with excellent power efficiency. It can handle any game better than the ROG or LeGo at 15W or less, to give you an idea. Valve knows what they're doing when it comes to making a proper handheld. Packing in enough performance without neglecting the main feature of a handheld, Battery/portability Ally and LeGo are like meatheads in comparison, designed with the greedy push for performance with the semi-neglection of battery/portability purposes. They're not unique or different from erry other PC handheld that ever existed prior to the Deck
I love the Steam Deck layout/ergonomics, as well As someone who prefers the Xbox/Nintendo layout (left stick symmetrical with buttons, better ergonomically), but also makes use of the Dpad in JRPGs (turn based games, and general menu navigation), the Deck is REALLY good I loathe Sony's retarded errgonomics. But making use of the Dpad/ABXY in a comfortable symmetrical layout (like on my SN30 Pro SE) makes it pretty nice when playing my JRPGs The Steam Deck offers the best of both worlds!
Some people love the Steam Deck, some people love the ROG ALLY. That’s great. What I don’t love are redundant videos that repeat well known features and issues and offer them as insights. I own a Steam Deck and I tried an ALLY in a store. I was taken by the ALLY’s screen, it was beautiful, but I didn’t love the controls. When the OLED Steam Deck came out I got that as an upgrade. I’m very happy and I wouldn’t be if I owned an ALLY. The point is I’M HAPPY.
I guess I’m not a true gamer because the steam deck is OK for me. I mostly play at home I don’t play on the go, but when I do plan to do the go of play, I hope it does hold up. It seems like the ROG and the steam deck are pretty formidable. But it seems like if you’re a hard-core gamer of those AAA games and such, then the ROG will be your thing but if you’re like me who is a semi gamer The steam deck works fine but I do notice that there is a bit of crashes and this in that happening but it’s still doable. It’s still manageable. It doesn’t piss me off to point where I’m like. I’m completely done with this device but I think I’m going to probably do both one day I will probably wait for the new ROG when that ever comes out but for now I’m pretty satisfied with my steam deck but who knows it might completely shit on me and work for nothing and be worthless but it’s been pretty good always could be better but can’t everything so think of it like that
I have to say that not being able to play Ubisoft games on the Steam Deck is a big plus for me. Nah but seriously I like both. I went with the SD OLED because...I like sitting in the park at night with a beer just playing games. The battery life on the SD supports that. And I know it's a small thing, but this a vibes-based thing that's super important to me. Don't care about your frame rates - I have a desktop for that. Tbh it's mostly a PS2/GCN/Wii emulation machine anyway and i'm fine with that.
VRR is not needed on the Steam Deck. Gamescope already takes care of screen tearing without adding input latency. 100% of the people that mention VRR in the comments of these videos don't know what VRR is and what is used for.
five things that annoys me about rog ally: poor battery life, sd card exploding, windows jank and it's uncomfortable to hold with its sharp edges piecing through my palms and I'd probably miss the instant resume function of the steam deck for that pick up and play ability three thing that annoys me about steam deck: incompatibility with some pc games lack of performance when I want to play the latest and greates aaa titles lack of vrr Both are great devices and competition breeds great handhelds I feel like we are in a golden age of gaming now. I'm a OG deck owner by the way for perspective I mostly prioritize battery life over performance because I feel like steam deck is peformant enough but if I didn't have my series x to remote play in I don't think I can play acts 2 and 3 very well in balders gate 3. last point. about battery life. I play mostly at home but I hate playing plugged in. There's something about being plugged in while gaming that makes it feel like not a handheld maybe i'ts the lack of freedom of movement. In 5 - 6 years time though the battery will naturally degrade a lot so plugged in all the time is what it will be like for all handhelds that old.
That is how Lithium ION work tho unless we get that solid state battery which they will probably put on electric cars first before in other electronics.
I have SteamDeck OLED and ROGAlly. I play cyberpunk 2077 with SteamDeck. Ally (25w) is more powerful,smoother FPS but Deck’s HDR and colorful display is great for cp2077. I play call of duty with Ally
I wouldn't say it's a necessary upgrade. If money is tight, and you don't travel a ton, I'd say hold tight until the next generation release. But if you travel a ton (like I do for work) then that makes it worth it to me
hold on to it sell it off after you get next gen (it will sell trust me people love portables and standard steam deck still strong asf and will be for portable fun for a while)
The perfect use case for ROG Ally is: you are commuting 1-2 hours everyday and you can dock it at work. Also you know how to tweak all the settings in game and on Windows.
I have both and I use both depending on my use case. Weaker games/highly optimized games I use the Deck, anything stronger or needing a desktop mode I use the Ally. I've added a 90w battery to replace the stock 40w battery on the Ally and it's resolved any issues I've had with battery life. I think both are worth having!
@@razaky2009 It's really not difficult. There's a guide on how to do it via google, Rog Ally 90w Battery mod. Honestly you can buy almost all the parts online and do it yourself. 3D Print the custom backplate, buy the battery, and either buy a longer battery cable or find someone to extend your cable for you.
I love this review. If i am camping or car trip only, I take the steam deck to have a console, if i am going on a vacation/trip/cruise, i take the Lgo. Steam deck is for poor people, and only the OLED matters in any comparison at all. In fact the best summary I have seen among all the content creators who actually have all three is this, they rate #1 Lgo, #2 Ally, #3 Deck. And every content creator who ever says Deck is best, only ever have two to decide from in front of them, and its the lower model ally or Lgo 😂 so their opinions are vastly misled. And always limitedly (or ignorantly) do they choose the steam deck. BUT the real life summary is this: Deck is merely a portable console, not without it's lower performance and hiccups, the Lgo is like a premium gaming PC on the go. And ally is like a solid but smaller work/office/gaming device in one. All are good at gaming. The other two are way better to be able to either 1, do much more, or game eligantly (as far as the Lgo goes). Me personally, I like the OLED deck best, not bc of its performance or junk resolution, and its limited options, but bc of the brand itself, and like the Lgo either equal to it. But if I am leaving on a trip prolonged, ill take the Lgo to do more.
@EyeNVNo1 bro there isn't a game I can't play on the steam deck... other than maybe a few anticheat games, which I could care less about, this device is a beast, I can play my whole triple a library, it's cute how you comment on things you know nothing about... kinda like a toddler
@@JDabz96 I had the og steam deck and sold it. Kid. Let’s talk about bullshit proton and how proton gets outdated after a month so you have to change all your games to the latest manually. Let’s talk about how steam deck has shitty battery and is the reason I even have a battery pack, which I’m now using for my Ally. Let’s also talk about how you have to gimp games to 40 fps to have a “playable” experience. I’ve had the steam deck longer than you I’m just not attached and sold that POS. it’s a glorified Nintendo Switch. You fanboys are something else. Get off RUclips and play games on that POS.
@EyeNVNo1 I have had the steam deck since launch which was over a year. You don't use proton like that you clown, maybe for specific games but otherwise steam os has proton 8 built into it, you don't even need to mess with proton at all, and the steam deck was already proven to have better battery life than the ally, and on top of this the steam deck oled has a 25% bigger battery in it, and if you think 30-40fps on a handheld is bad then you should look at consoles who locked there games to 30fps on big tvs, 30 fps feels great on a 7inch screen, same with 40, most games i play are at 60fps unless it's a newer triple a title then I go to 45fps, which feels almost exactly like 60, the fact you think you need 120hz for a handheld is honestly pathetic, steam deck will always be winning this handheld game, 10 out of 10times. Enjoy those forced windows updates and random crashes, windows on a handheld is a joke, just like you bud
@@EyeNVNo1that's just not true, I have had me OG Deck since Aug 21 and have never had to manually go through all my games and update Proton, As I do not play Fortnite or Destiny 2 I have not had a single game I wanted to play not work on my Deck.
Im leaning more towards the ROG Ally,the only thing SD has over the ROG is the battery life but i will mainly use it at home anyway because i dot have space for a desktop pc.
My real issue is steam deck cant play as many games as the ally extreme. I have several games on other launchers and will jave to jump through hoops to get some to work amd others that will just not work. I like the legion go also but lack of vrr is a letdown. Vrr is more important than most think
Would be nice if these handheld devices have a refresh update once per year. I think waiting multiple years for a new computer isn’t fun and not what pc’s do. So why do it with these mini computers? I think gamers would love small updates over time.
Wanted to ask. I have aya neo next. It’s great. But was thinking of getting steam deck oled or Rog ally. Not sure how much better Rog ally is compared to aya neo next. Also with steam deck worries that it may not be so easy to play games- particularly Ubisoft / epic games - installing proton and god knows what else in terms of mods puts me off - or is it easier than it seems. I like idea of steam having instant access to games but but how easy is it setting up games.
Unless you’re in a situation where you travel a lot, I don’t see the point in getting an ROG Ally. If you care about power and flexibility, I think you’d be better off just getting a desktop with Windows. At least then you won’t have to worry about a battery. To me, the Steam Deck OLED sounds like a much better option simply because of the increased battery life, which is important for any portable device. Also, as much as I like Windows, it just seems too inconvenient to be used on a handheld. I like the console-like layout of SteamOS better. But hey, to each their own I suppose.
Im glad everyone is buying up all these portables it means theres more to come and I dont know about you guys but im having more fun on my ally than going out of my trying to buy a rtx 4080-4090 gpu
Problem with the ALLY is it is tied to windows, that brings with it the good and bad, for a handheld, windows is just not up to par. One of the biggest reasons to get the deck is the quick resume, i can literally pick and drop the deck in an instant without downtime in between, a godsend for someone with a busy life. Windows on the other hand is infested with random wake ups, slow sleep/resume that mostly does not work on games and drains battery on every attempt as well as countless prompt boxes for everything is a bundle of hassle to deal with. I believe Windows will be an amazing contender if they made a handheld friendly version/mode that is de-bloated, this is coming from a person running windows on the main desktop gaming rig, which is a boon if you use remote play/steam link/moonlight to stream AAA games locally on the SD for 11+ hours on battery with 120+ fps (close to no input lag) with maxed out graphics/resolution (just get a decent AC/AX WiFi router), to be fair, the ally can do the same with streaming but it lacks battery life, quick resume, OLED and is more expensive. Lastly, I'm a big fan of the Playstation controller layout and despise the alternative so this one is subjective.
My SD OLED randomly stopped reading my SD card at start up. I’d have to eject and insert it. Than it randomly wouldn’t let me turn WiFi on. After a few restarts it let me turn on but it wouldn’t connect to wifi or my hotspot. Even when I knew the password was correct and no other devices had issues connecting to it. Sometimes it would work with multiple restarts. I’m talking 20+ I went a week one time without being able to connect to WiFi. Decided that was enough and sold it to get the Ally as with a 2tb name. Which I’ll add is extremely easy to swap. I don’t mind the weaker battery as much since I typically wouldn’t let my SD get under 60%. So it could have a full charge if I ever had to take it out.
I can play cyberpunk maxed at 720p 30fps locked for 2.5hours. ROG is pretty awesome. I did have to put a lite windows on it. So setup sucks but once you do set it up its the best performance system out there.
Have both, the oled is better imo, but for me it's the amount of support it gets from steam, as a package it's just all round better. The ROG is great but think I'll give that one to my son
Well it’s better at blowing through the battery in an hour. Also it’s better at not having a sd card that works. And it’s definitely better at not being reliable.
I don't even plug it in because I don't play for super long. Usually just bus rides, or work breaks and that's fine by me. I guess if you really want battery life go with the Steam Deck :) to each their own.
That’s great and all… but the ROG Ally has a shit battery life. It entirely defeats the purpose of a handheld gaming device if its battery life cant last.
I was an early adopter to the steam deck and I recently picked up a legion go and I still prefer the Steam Deck for most things, ease of use older titles but the legion is for PS3 emulation or other launchers and pure peformance on titles like Alan Wake II which I wouldn’t try on deck, aswell as with the g1 egpu you got a competent 4 in 1 windows tablet capable of 1440p gaming (with said gpu) I also use it as a media tablet with it’s beautiful 1440p display… basically what I’m trying to say is these devices albeit do the same thing offer widely different experiences and you can love them both and have both in your ecosystem or figure what’s good for you and what you value more.
The ally is a great handheld when you compare it to the steam deck until you remember it costs $700 for the extreme and let’s face it nobody should waste money on the non extreme. And the steam deck starts at $400 and goes up to $650. So in terms of pricing I’d sure hope the ally does more than the deck. And I think with the e current pricing the steam deck is gonna still dominate besides being less powerful. Just look at the switch for example.
I don't know if it's the case in your country but here the Ally has seen a massive pricedrop of 200CAD. It now costs 700CAD for the extreme version and the steam deck oled costs 680CAD. I think at the moment, at least here, it's worth to get the Ally.
Im so tired of people pretending SteamOS is a net positive for PC gaming when its actually a mixed bag at best. Its no fun when people ask why the Steam Deck cant play a certain game, and the best answer you can give is "Reasons".
I think "portability" is very relative. Personally I feel like the Ally is literally more portable because I personally prefer lighter devices and my hands would strain from holding my Deck. I don't mind the battery much because of the way I use it.
Batterylife is like 45 - 90 mins on Ally... loool that's a toy for people with to much money....I take a Switch Oled and SD Oled hell even LCD version rather than Rog Ally.... Imagine being on a flight and cant even play it without a powerbank. This is not a "handheld", but as a replace to a laptop absolutely a good option but this is not a "play on the go" device. PS! Please don't fry my 512 Gb Micro SDXC card...
The better handheld is the steam oled. Just because you like the rog ally more doesn't makes it better. These are portable devices not pc. 1hour of gameplay that's a joke LOL
I have both and now I’m selling my asus. Asus rog alli costs more. Battery lasts 1/3 what the steam deck lasts. If I want to stay connected to a charger I might as well get a gaming laptop. Also analog sticks feel better on steam deck.
Here it costs more than the SD Oled by 20$. I think for me its worth the upgrade. I don't even stay connected to a charger with my Ally because I don't have super long gaming sessions. To each their own.
I understand you and others enjoy the track pads, though they are not essential for many. When playing games with a controller it's not like I hold an Xbox controller and say where's the track pads? And for navigating the os I feel you just get efficient with whatever you use. Non issue navigating windows with a joystick and a touch screen for me.
The Rog ally is better. Im throwing every game at it and runs just fine other then getting use to the controls for the games the Rog Ally is alot better.
you want a powerful device? get a pc lol besides you will get stock near a wall socket. The reason why switch still exist underpowered and yet good in sales.😅 rog ally 2 3 4 5 every other year so good luck
If only ROG ally has better battery. The steam deck oled batter makes a huge difference. I want to try the mods but the freaking thing makes it heavy and uglier
i like to see new rog allay new battery now battery turbo 45 min and dead steam deack oled seame game seame seting battery 3:18 min ..... Portabilitity and battery steam deack 2 point performance rog allay 1 point
The fanboy who brought the deck on release. Know they messed up and will never admit it.. The steam deck only got battery life going for it. The controller sticks being so high up sucks and not natural
Noone agrees with you. The sale numbers on the steam deck compared to the ally are proof enough, it's just much more consumer friendly and better in general. 800p on an oled screen looks better than 1080p on the allys lcd... try again my dude, and for performance, it's more than comfortable enough to play all my triple a games, it's also a fact the steam decks ergonomics shit on all the competition, especially the ally
I agree with this. Y’all fanboys better sell before it’s too late. Funny thing is Steam cut you off at the knees by releasing an identical device with minor upgrades, immediately lowering the value of the OG Steam deck. BRUTAL! Y’all shouldn’t let them get away with that instead of trying to prove the SD is worth anybody’s time lol
@nathanjuan6042 lol, I'm just smart, and I'm sorry you can't understand facts, this guy is clickbaiting Asus fanboys like you, he just a random youtuber that won't make it past 100k subs, yall are some inbreds or something, Asus has the worst rep in the industry from consumers. Just give it less than a year and they probably will stop supporting the ally
@EyeNVNo1 bro the upgrades are literally everything that everyone complained about In the first device, they actually listened to there consumers and improved every qol of the device without upgrading it completely, they said this is only a revision, Asus would never listen to there consumers, I get your not used to it you Asus fanboy, get screwed by that company you love some more, I enjoy watching, I'll stick with a company that gives a shit, you can die on that tiny hill with all your fellow fanboys, while Asus joins me to watch, they don't care about consumers and never have, geez your the definition of the word clown
I've had all three (both steam decks and the ROG). The OLED is the only one still here. Except for the first point in this video the rest you mention are utter nonsense. Windows alone is a good enough reason not to have any windows based gaming handheld. It's terrible on a handheld. The power is irrelevant as the 1080p screen leaves you with similar frame rates to the 800p SP. Battery is a joke on the ROG. I had the SD issue and had to send it for repair. They should have all been recalled purely for this design flaw. The thumbsticks are far too loose feeling, the dpad is hypersensitive. The 1080 screen is slightly too.small so text can be extremely hard to read. It feels more a prototype than a finished device. Its the best of the windows devices, but the list of downsides compared to the OLED is so much longer than vice versa.
everyone talking about steam os, windows, processor power and battery life... the most generic stuff when comparing both devices.. meanwhile here's me (who owns both) prefer the Steam Deck OLED because of trackpads and 4 back buttons ... and for that reason alone haha 😂😂
Launchers: Ah yes. Because the minor inconvenience to get a launcher to work (even though there are a million step-by-step guides on youtube), is totally worth the continual and regular hassle of operating windows with a controller, and the tedium that is the Armoury Crate, that Asus can't even get consistent (and has been neglected at times) on laptops. /sarcasm. APU: None of these handheld devices can get stable and consistent 60FPS on Elden Ring even with lowering the resolution to rune scape graphics. Until that happens at a reasonable resolution for the screen as a bench mark: No One Wins, this doesn't matter, stop pretending your slight bit of performance gives you anything substantial and worth while. Even if you could make some sort of objective argument here; it's paying significantly more for and average of 5-8FPS. Controller: Super subjective. and this is anecdotal but my wrists cramped a fuck ton more with the ally... Admittedly I do like the Ally's D pad and it's placement in games, but it sucks for desktop which I think is the more functional need. Screen: I never owned the original Steam Deck, I started with the ally. But after getting the OLED I couldn't go back. I wanna say this is subjective, but I'd take a nicer display over one with technically better specs when you're still not even hitting my Elden Ring bench mark to begin with, and every other title looks better on OLED. Flexibility from the OS: Yeah, this is why I bought the Ally to begin with (along with my expectations of performance), and will say that yes; This is a genuine superiority, even if I dismiss all the problems that come with windows (the updates are so intrusive)... Getting something to run that requires MS Gothic that proton didn't want to resolve was *particularly* annoying on steam deck. And anti-cheat stuff is also pain. (though I think it's a blessing in disguise to disallow kernel level anti-cheat, which is something that should be abolished.) But practically most things people use day to day either are fixed by proton, or have a linux version. If you absolutely hate tinkering, the flexibility is the one thing on this list I can say is objectively superior. But that's far from a deal breaker. Over all in practice I found ROG Ally better for game pass, very well optimized first person shooters that take advantage of the hardware (which if I'm being honest I want a mouse and be seated at a desk for anyways), and running very very niche things that really only play well with windows. For literally everything else, I found my OLED Steam Deck superior and much better value. My cousin got my old Ally at a super reduced price, so they are happy; but I think any savvy consumer who isn't supper addicted to single player shooters, and want it everywhere they go; should sleep on the Ally.
I have a OG SD AND I LOVE IT but ima buy a rog non extreme version in 2 weeks hopefully i can get a good deal on amazon are Best Buy I don’t feel comfortable buying it off ebay and the prices now people want more them$450 for a non extreme thats not gonna happen
Both are great in their own right. I personally sold my Steamdeck og and bought an ROG Ally, as i wasnt too impressed with the decks power. Never had to deal with the SD card issues with the Ally, as i upgraded to a 2tb SSD. Overall super happy with the ally ^^
Problem is the Rog Ally has very bad ergonomics. It feels so bad in the hand.
@@mathiaskildedal there’s a couple cases and grips that fix that
which one would you suggest ? i am currently using the skull & co one but im not really satifsied with the same @@fresco_dinero5155
@@fresco_dinero5155 Yeah but that makes it hella clunky. I want it to be nice out the box. Not with a tons of addons on it. Steam deck ftw!
@@mathiaskildedal i think my rog is pretty comfrotable ngl. the deck felt a lot better in hand but nothing crazy imo
I have both and I stopped using the ally after I got the oled.
3 reasons:
Oled screen and HDR is a bigger deal in person.
Quick resume. I’m tired of waiting a minute for my ally to turn on and then another 3 mins to get into a game. And guess what, doing that you lose 3-5% of the battery.
Last but definitely not least. I can get 3.5 hours of god of war on the oled deck. 70 mins or less on the rog ally.
You can also use the quick resume on the Ally. You need to set in Windows that when you press the power button Windows hibernates
@@aglaiatheinsane6905 it doesn't even work the same, it's pretty shit
Only a big deal id both are set at 720p but set the game on the Ally on 1080p and you will see the difference between 1080p and 720p. 1080p is always gonna be sharper.
@@nathanjuan6042yes but on a screen this small, it doesnt make a huge difference
Bro has to play on all low settings 😂
Honestly this convinced me to buy the Steam Deck Oled over the Ally. But the video was still very helpful 👍🏾
Is the ally still frying sd cards/sd slot or did they fix that?
Everyone has valve to thanks for the release of more powerful handheld pc at affordable pricing. If not for Valve willing to sell at a loss, the ROG Ally might cost $1000 at launch.
nah more like neither of these big PC manufacturers see the appeal of handheld PCs lol...
they did this because Valve made it mainstream with Steam Deck.
One thing I can't live without on the steam deck is the touch gyro aim where I just touch the right stick's top and gyro activates.
I only have the OG steam deck. It was fairly good and I was, for the most part, happy with it.I don't care for Linux. Bought the Ally during a Best Buy sale for $600 and I'm very impressed with it. The VRR capability of the screen is massive, and so is the 1080p resolution upgrade. The Ally does have some quirks I'm working through, but this will most likely be my new handheld
If part of those quirks are navigating windows, try using a frontend like Playnite. Makes the Ally so much smoother and console-like.
Same experience I had. I hate proton and can’t stand linking folders to make EA Play or any other third party launcher to work. Pc has heroic launcher too btw
@@Seanbo88 navigating windows with the ally isnt even as bad as people try to make it seem. more just people being nitpicky about things but playnite is great if its wanted.
Danggg son i got my ROG for 500$ usd 😂
@@babymookie7176about to get my extreme version for $450
Of all the handhelds I have, the Ally suites my needs best. I like my Decks for Steam but again, the Ally plays games it can't. Over all, of the Legion Go, steam decks and Ally I'm looking forward to a Ally 2 the most
Same! I got my Ally 1 week ago and so far my only complain is the battery life, ONLY when playing AAA on Turbo Mode
I sold my steam deck about 3 months ago because it was just too much of a pain in the ass using proton to install games not on steam. I recently ordered an ally after the price drop and am excited to use it. It'll be so so much easier to install ocarina of time pc port and emulators without jumping through a dozen hoops on the deck to get things working. If you're only going to play steam games though, definitely get the deck.
I prefer the Legion Go over my oled deck and Ally go. I'm 55 y/old and my eyes need the big screen. My steam library is 1100 games, Lot's of the library won't work on the deck.
It has x2 type-C usb 4 so you can attach an external 4TB SSD and maintain the charging at the same time. The big kickstand, detachable controls and it doesn't fry micro SD cards.
I have both (steamdeck OLED and Ally Z1E) and love both. However 90% of the time, I am drawn to the Ally. It is more flexible and I prefer higher fps and better visuals. Battery life is something you live with. I usually play at home so can just plug it in. If out, there are lots of power banks that will prolong your gaming session. The steamdeck needs those just as much
@anyvid100 can't say I've noticed any stuttering at all. I use FSR when available and RSR when not. Have you tried cleanly reinstalling the amd gpu drivers?
For the same reason I prefer my game laptop.
@anyvid100 you sound unlucky.
One reason I'm a PC gamer is I'm not bound to a single piece of hardware. I much rather play triple A titles on my gaming desktop hooked up to my 65" Oled TV. Games that requires a large screen yet doesn't required newer hardware I rather play on my 17" gaming laptop. Those PC games that my gaming desktop hardware would be overkill and doesn't require a large screen are the games I find works the best for a PC handheld. Hades is a good example. Dead Cells even looks better on a smaller screen then on my 65" screen.
Those games runs well on the Deck with longer battery time. The one thing I want from my wireless devices is for them to be wireless. Battery life is very important to me when it comes to wireless devices.
For all the people that say you will regret buying the rog ally well i bought it on release and i play on it daily the whole family abuses it and it still works fine the only issue is the left joystick is wobbly because i dropped it but it still goes
I dont even need a high performance or graphics on a small screen, plus oled has more battery life and better watt usage, so oled for me...
You don’t know what you’re missing if you never had it lol it’s okay man. Tech advances quickly. Don’t get so attached…it’s a long painful road I’m telling you
Though I wont be trading in my OG Deck for several years or longer, I appreciate the comparison to know where things are headed, and who might be doing what better
11:46 That is the main catalyst reason why I have chosen the Ally over the deck. I have tried those aforementioned process when it comes to running game pass, and gog; it was a total mess.
I have both. Prefer the OLED if you want to game for more than an hour.
You must live outside.
@@EyeNVNo1 I'm a father and don't have time to game like that, or tethered, I have to watch my kid, I get that you love being tethered to a wall to game, I don't, enjoy you glorified laptop...
@@JDabz96 I guess it all comes down to personal preference and what you need out of a handheld. Having owned both devices, I use my ally much more because I prefer smaller and lighter devices. I also don't mind the fact it has low battery hours because I don't have time for very long gaming sessions anyway. To each their own.
@@JDabz96 Strange argument there buddy :D It's funny though, if you mess with the settings, you can closely match the SD in power / time. The SD does a lot at lower numbers no doubt, it's impressive, but once you move past 15w, it gets manhandled.
I love the simplicity of SteamOS, but considering the SteamOS can't even play half of my Steam Library... yah... I'll stick to my glorified laptop, the Legion Go, that can play my ENTIRE Steam and Game pass libraries, not to mention all of the other platform's worth of games. I also don't care if I have to play plugged in, I only use it in my house anyways.
All of these devices have pro's and con's, nature of the beast. Or, you can put windows on the SD :p I have grown to hate Win11 a lot as of late, but sadly it's still the best OS if you have a lot of games scattered about.
@MrNickpeck36 what do you mean half your steam library? No matter what, only like 10% of all steam games dont work on steam deck, and that's counting all the certain anticheat games mostly, and then I also play all my games on epicgames as well, no problems, the only thing you got right was that it was outpowered above 15w. Steam OS will be superior to windows for gaming once compatibility isn't a issue, otherwise, most gaming on the steam deck is as easy as clicking play.
I am confused,isnt the deck x86 and able to dual boot into windows 10-11 ?
Meaning you can run a normal pc setup including launchers and so on ..
If of course we are only talking about raw power,i would still prefer a cheaper more affordable unit with the ability to play a huge back catalogue of pc games from 2017 all the way back including tens of thousands of retro console and arcade games in most cases perfectly as well as have far superior battery life
And lets be honest,many new games WILL run acceptable on deck too
Thank you, brother.. instant sub.
The Steam Deck, while I enjoyed it, is a compatability nightmare. 720p is... Subpar and no VRR? Like C'mon Man! These Deck heads are delusional..
Hyping up track pads like they're a necessity. Yeah, you gone need those with all of the tinkering you gotta do to find the right ge proton layer just to get ya game running big dawg
I respect your opinion brother. tbh it all comes down to preference. the deck has battery life and the rog has performance. personally im not a hardcore gamer so i prefer the steam deck
800p*
@@joshdoesnotadventure756 but what do you do when your favorite game isn't super demanding or compatible? WWE 2k22, my favorite and non demanding, seemingly worked on SteamOS, but crashed arbitrarily and had a couple visual glitches. Running it on Windows on the Deck worked better.. but was terribly slow in any tag or multi-man match.
If I want to play something demanding.. the Ally can do it.
If I want to play something lightweight at a lower TDP for hours of battery life.. the Ally can do it.
And the only tinkering you have to do is change the TDP, maybe lower the resolution with the little quick access button.
And with Steam's new Big Picture Mode available on all platforms.. my Ally is essentially a beefier Deck. There's just not a good enough reason to stick around. I like OLED.. but at 720p? 😩
Thanks for the correction big dawg.. with that said.. 800p might as well be 720p to these eyes of mine
@@dirkwood4544 Yeah I really don’t know what to do about that, but all the games I like work with or without tweaking. I recently did a very long gameplay of like a dragon: ishin on extra high setting. For the most part it stayed at the same fps atleast for me. Probably because I have the steam deck oled though. Like I said though, it’s preference because personally I don’t like those types of games
A bit random but, since this is essentially a windows pc in a gaming shell, can I download software to update firmware and run updates via the usb port of the Ally for gaming controllers like my Thrustmaster steering wheel? I'm on Mac and have no way of doing so since their software is PC only.
Literally just did this for my logitech wheel as a part of a portable racing rig I'm making!
The only thing the ROG Ally has over the Steam Deck, is over all performance
Higher resolutions on handhelds is just cringe. It's great if it can handle all games at 1080p and still reach that rly high (for a mobile gaming device)120hz, but it can't. You're dropping it down to 720p anyways and cranking the W up to like 25. Getting like 45m-90m of battery life. Not much of a handheld, is it?
I think going for full performance and higher resolutions on a handheld, especially when battery tech and hardware isn't all that impressive, is just dumb. Pure greed. Poor handheld design choice
With the lack of a touch pad and a proper handheld OS, I think the Rog Ally is just under developed and poorly designed. Especially with the SD card placement and the use of RGB, as if the battery life wasn't alrdy the biggest issue
It seems rushed and/or not given a lot of thought. Just throwing on Windows and slapping on higher specs like they're trying to 1-up the Steam Deck, but they're inefficient in erry other possible way
The ROG Ally is definitely ahead of its time. With it's hardware and screen res, with the battery quality, they're getting ahead of themselves. You HAVE to keep it balanced. If you're going to put in these specs, you better also put in a battery that can keep up with it, or else you're better off building a stationary gaming rig as you'll be tethered to the wall anyways
Again, poor design choices
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The Deck is an extremely well designed handheld with excellent power efficiency. It can handle any game better than the ROG or LeGo at 15W or less, to give you an idea. Valve knows what they're doing when it comes to making a proper handheld. Packing in enough performance without neglecting the main feature of a handheld, Battery/portability
Ally and LeGo are like meatheads in comparison, designed with the greedy push for performance with the semi-neglection of battery/portability purposes. They're not unique or different from erry other PC handheld that ever existed prior to the Deck
I love the Steam Deck layout/ergonomics, as well
As someone who prefers the Xbox/Nintendo layout (left stick symmetrical with buttons, better ergonomically), but also makes use of the Dpad in JRPGs (turn based games, and general menu navigation), the Deck is REALLY good
I loathe Sony's retarded errgonomics. But making use of the Dpad/ABXY in a comfortable symmetrical layout (like on my SN30 Pro SE) makes it pretty nice when playing my JRPGs
The Steam Deck offers the best of both worlds!
Great work on this video. Watched it this morning and came back tonight to comment and subscribe. You'll be at 5k in no time.
Some people love the Steam Deck, some people love the ROG ALLY. That’s great. What I don’t love are redundant videos that repeat well known features and issues and offer them as insights. I own a Steam Deck and I tried an ALLY in a store. I was taken by the ALLY’s screen, it was beautiful, but I didn’t love the controls. When the OLED Steam Deck came out I got that as an upgrade. I’m very happy and I wouldn’t be if I owned an ALLY. The point is I’M HAPPY.
I guess I’m not a true gamer because the steam deck is OK for me. I mostly play at home I don’t play on the go, but when I do plan to do the go of play, I hope it does hold up. It seems like the ROG and the steam deck are pretty formidable. But it seems like if you’re a hard-core gamer of those AAA games and such, then the ROG will be your thing but if you’re like me who is a semi gamer The steam deck works fine but I do notice that there is a bit of crashes and this in that happening but it’s still doable. It’s still manageable. It doesn’t piss me off to point where I’m like. I’m completely done with this device but I think I’m going to probably do both one day I will probably wait for the new ROG when that ever comes out but for now I’m pretty satisfied with my steam deck but who knows it might completely shit on me and work for nothing and be worthless but it’s been pretty good always could be better but can’t everything so think of it like that
I'm a hard-core gamer and I use the Steam Deck OLED
My steamdeck OLED has never once had screen tear, I honestly don't see the extreme need for VRR.
I have to say that not being able to play Ubisoft games on the Steam Deck is a big plus for me.
Nah but seriously I like both. I went with the SD OLED because...I like sitting in the park at night with a beer just playing games. The battery life on the SD supports that. And I know it's a small thing, but this a vibes-based thing that's super important to me. Don't care about your frame rates - I have a desktop for that.
Tbh it's mostly a PS2/GCN/Wii emulation machine anyway and i'm fine with that.
VRR is not needed on the Steam Deck. Gamescope already takes care of screen tearing without adding input latency. 100% of the people that mention VRR in the comments of these videos don't know what VRR is and what is used for.
You can't even play your game longer than an hour without being plugged into a wall 😂
Too much power thats why that why yu get a portable charger in if you play a handheld more then 2hrs you just a game head 🤣
Then buy a wall
Ally can run at higher wattages than the deck. If you match them by playing at 15w (Deck's max), Ally's battery life is ab the same as the LCD deck.
I rather have poor battery than a weak processor. Just buy a powerbank and your problem is solve however weak processor has no solution it is fixed
Gameboy can play games 15 hours on battery…what’s your point? Lol
five things that annoys me about rog ally:
poor battery life, sd card exploding, windows jank and it's uncomfortable to hold with its sharp edges piecing through my palms and I'd probably miss the instant resume function of the steam deck for that pick up and play ability
three thing that annoys me about steam deck:
incompatibility with some pc games
lack of performance when I want to play the latest and greates aaa titles
lack of vrr
Both are great devices and competition breeds great handhelds I feel like we are in a golden age of gaming now.
I'm a OG deck owner by the way for perspective
I mostly prioritize battery life over performance because I feel like steam deck is peformant enough but if I didn't have my series x to remote play in I don't think I can play acts 2 and 3 very well in balders gate 3.
last point. about battery life. I play mostly at home but I hate playing plugged in. There's something about being plugged in while gaming that makes it feel like not a handheld maybe i'ts the lack of freedom of movement. In 5 - 6 years time though the battery will naturally degrade a lot so plugged in all the time is what it will be like for all handhelds that old.
That is how Lithium ION work tho unless we get that solid state battery which they will probably put on electric cars first before in other electronics.
I have SteamDeck OLED and ROGAlly.
I play cyberpunk 2077 with SteamDeck.
Ally (25w) is more powerful,smoother FPS but Deck’s HDR and colorful display is great for cp2077.
I play call of duty with Ally
I got the Ally over SteamDeck because Ally plays more games and plays more games better.
I have the OG SD, is it worth the upgrade to ROG Ally or the SD OLED? Considering that I don't have a gaming PC or any game console at home.
I wouldn't say it's a necessary upgrade. If money is tight, and you don't travel a ton, I'd say hold tight until the next generation release. But if you travel a ton (like I do for work) then that makes it worth it to me
hold on to it sell it off after you get next gen (it will sell trust me people love portables and standard steam deck still strong asf and will be for portable fun for a while)
The perfect use case for ROG Ally is: you are commuting 1-2 hours everyday and you can dock it at work. Also you know how to tweak all the settings in game and on Windows.
Love my ally but I need glasses the screen is too small
It looks amazing with glasses on
They should make an xl plus model 😂
Well then Legion Go would be better for you. It has 8.8 inch screen with little to none black bars
I have both and I use both depending on my use case.
Weaker games/highly optimized games I use the Deck, anything stronger or needing a desktop mode I use the Ally.
I've added a 90w battery to replace the stock 40w battery on the Ally and it's resolved any issues I've had with battery life.
I think both are worth having!
How did you do the battery mod? Seems very challenging to do.
@@razaky2009 It's really not difficult. There's a guide on how to do it via google, Rog Ally 90w Battery mod. Honestly you can buy almost all the parts online and do it yourself. 3D Print the custom backplate, buy the battery, and either buy a longer battery cable or find someone to extend your cable for you.
I love this review. If i am camping or car trip only, I take the steam deck to have a console, if i am going on a vacation/trip/cruise, i take the Lgo. Steam deck is for poor people, and only the OLED matters in any comparison at all. In fact the best summary I have seen among all the content creators who actually have all three is this, they rate #1 Lgo, #2 Ally, #3 Deck. And every content creator who ever says Deck is best, only ever have two to decide from in front of them, and its the lower model ally or Lgo 😂 so their opinions are vastly misled. And always limitedly (or ignorantly) do they choose the steam deck. BUT the real life summary is this: Deck is merely a portable console, not without it's lower performance and hiccups, the Lgo is like a premium gaming PC on the go. And ally is like a solid but smaller work/office/gaming device in one. All are good at gaming. The other two are way better to be able to either 1, do much more, or game eligantly (as far as the Lgo goes).
Me personally, I like the OLED deck best, not bc of its performance or junk resolution, and its limited options, but bc of the brand itself, and like the Lgo either equal to it. But if I am leaving on a trip prolonged, ill take the Lgo to do more.
So happy i sold my ally and got the oled, i prefer better software over hardware
I prefer to play games lol
@EyeNVNo1 bro there isn't a game I can't play on the steam deck... other than maybe a few anticheat games, which I could care less about, this device is a beast, I can play my whole triple a library, it's cute how you comment on things you know nothing about... kinda like a toddler
@@JDabz96 I had the og steam deck and sold it. Kid. Let’s talk about bullshit proton and how proton gets outdated after a month so you have to change all your games to the latest manually. Let’s talk about how steam deck has shitty battery and is the reason I even have a battery pack, which I’m now using for my Ally. Let’s also talk about how you have to gimp games to 40 fps to have a “playable” experience. I’ve had the steam deck longer than you I’m just not attached and sold that POS. it’s a glorified Nintendo Switch. You fanboys are something else. Get off RUclips and play games on that POS.
@EyeNVNo1 I have had the steam deck since launch which was over a year. You don't use proton like that you clown, maybe for specific games but otherwise steam os has proton 8 built into it, you don't even need to mess with proton at all, and the steam deck was already proven to have better battery life than the ally, and on top of this the steam deck oled has a 25% bigger battery in it, and if you think 30-40fps on a handheld is bad then you should look at consoles who locked there games to 30fps on big tvs, 30 fps feels great on a 7inch screen, same with 40, most games i play are at 60fps unless it's a newer triple a title then I go to 45fps, which feels almost exactly like 60, the fact you think you need 120hz for a handheld is honestly pathetic, steam deck will always be winning this handheld game, 10 out of 10times. Enjoy those forced windows updates and random crashes, windows on a handheld is a joke, just like you bud
@@EyeNVNo1that's just not true, I have had me OG Deck since Aug 21 and have never had to manually go through all my games and update Proton, As I do not play Fortnite or Destiny 2 I have not had a single game I wanted to play not work on my Deck.
Im leaning more towards the ROG Ally,the only thing SD has over the ROG is the battery life but i will mainly use it at home anyway because i dot have space for a desktop pc.
I purchased a steam deck OLED, but it is a great idea to get the Ally if you'll use it more as a PC than handheld.
Lol 😅
My real issue is steam deck cant play as many games as the ally extreme. I have several games on other launchers and will jave to jump through hoops to get some to work amd others that will just not work. I like the legion go also but lack of vrr is a letdown. Vrr is more important than most think
Would be nice if these handheld devices have a refresh update once per year. I think waiting multiple years for a new computer isn’t fun and not what pc’s do. So why do it with these mini computers? I think gamers would love small updates over time.
I am impressed by ROG Ally’s firmware and driver updates, feels like they have put a decent sized team behind it.
Had to subscribe once I saw the Buc-ees shirt!! Love my Ally sold the deck and won’t buy another unless they put some power under the hood.
Wanted to ask. I have aya neo next. It’s great. But was thinking of getting steam deck oled or Rog ally. Not sure how much better Rog ally is compared to aya neo next. Also with steam deck worries that it may not be so easy to play games- particularly Ubisoft / epic games - installing proton and god knows what else in terms of mods puts me off - or is it easier than it seems. I like idea of steam having instant access to games but but how easy is it setting up games.
I'd rather deal with steam deck OLED because I don't want to deal with windows and of cost I rather pay 550 instead of 700 am casual player
Unless you’re in a situation where you travel a lot, I don’t see the point in getting an ROG Ally. If you care about power and flexibility, I think you’d be better off just getting a desktop with Windows. At least then you won’t have to worry about a battery. To me, the Steam Deck OLED sounds like a much better option simply because of the increased battery life, which is important for any portable device. Also, as much as I like Windows, it just seems too inconvenient to be used on a handheld. I like the console-like layout of SteamOS better. But hey, to each their own I suppose.
Im glad everyone is buying up all these portables it means theres more to come and I dont know about you guys but im having more fun on my ally than going out of my trying to buy a rtx 4080-4090 gpu
Problem with the ALLY is it is tied to windows, that brings with it the good and bad, for a handheld, windows is just not up to par.
One of the biggest reasons to get the deck is the quick resume, i can literally pick and drop the deck in an instant without downtime in between, a godsend for someone with a busy life. Windows on the other hand is infested with random wake ups, slow sleep/resume that mostly does not work on games and drains battery on every attempt as well as countless prompt boxes for everything is a bundle of hassle to deal with.
I believe Windows will be an amazing contender if they made a handheld friendly version/mode that is de-bloated, this is coming from a person running windows on the main desktop gaming rig, which is a boon if you use remote play/steam link/moonlight to stream AAA games locally on the SD for 11+ hours on battery with 120+ fps (close to no input lag) with maxed out graphics/resolution (just get a decent AC/AX WiFi router), to be fair, the ally can do the same with streaming but it lacks battery life, quick resume, OLED and is more expensive.
Lastly, I'm a big fan of the Playstation controller layout and despise the alternative so this one is subjective.
ROG ally is only option in my country
And also cheaper 549$(Z1 X) now on sell 529$
But they didn't have Z1 model tho.
Z1 is not worth it, even at lower price. Go for Z1 Extreme if you're interested.
My SD OLED randomly stopped reading my SD card at start up. I’d have to eject and insert it. Than it randomly wouldn’t let me turn WiFi on. After a few restarts it let me turn on but it wouldn’t connect to wifi or my hotspot. Even when I knew the password was correct and no other devices had issues connecting to it. Sometimes it would work with multiple restarts. I’m talking 20+ I went a week one time without being able to connect to WiFi. Decided that was enough and sold it to get the Ally as with a 2tb name. Which I’ll add is extremely easy to swap. I don’t mind the weaker battery as much since I typically wouldn’t let my SD get under 60%. So it could have a full charge if I ever had to take it out.
Doesn't matter to me how many things the ally does better than the steam deck OLED windows 11 is what kills it.
I can play cyberpunk maxed at 720p 30fps locked for 2.5hours. ROG is pretty awesome. I did have to put a lite windows on it. So setup sucks but once you do set it up its the best performance system out there.
i just wished my rog allys sd card slot wasn't broken i didn't have issues with that on my steam deck
I'm not certain but I think you can RMA that with ASUS
2:02 So sorry Jack but better luck next time
Have both, the oled is better imo, but for me it's the amount of support it gets from steam, as a package it's just all round better. The ROG is great but think I'll give that one to my son
Hows that Easy Anti-Cheat support going?
Eh both have their forces and weaknesses. I do agree on the Valve support thing, it's pretty cool.
@@conchobarI don't play multi player games like FIFA , COD so it doesn't affect me
Yeah but you have to tell it without crying
Gotta em both and will keep them. Just need to sell my OG Steamdeck.
shit how used is it?? how long have you had it?
@@retaxed- I think about a year. My co worker bought it last week. He’s loving it. Work out good.
I’m sorry but the. Steam deck Oled has even battery now and 90 fps which is a sweet spot I’m taking the Oled steam deck
ROG Ally OLED 2024?....hmmm. must be why they slashed the ROG Ally price recently. Getting rid of the stock.
Yes I am waiting for that 🥰🥰🥰
I feel like somone is holding a gun to your head while you make this video 😂😂 blink twice if you need help
*blinks once*
@@ProfessorTek 😅😅
@@eddiecoker4808they watching him forsure, or maybe delusion, software alone is far superior on the deck
Well it’s better at blowing through the battery in an hour. Also it’s better at not having a sd card that works. And it’s definitely better at not being reliable.
Must be nice only playing a certain amount of games on that steam deck 😂😂😂😂 ally all day
I’m running windeck, so I don’t have compatibility issues.
Just performance issues is all
@@EyeNVNo1 actually no, some games run better. Main downside though is battery doesn’t last on windows
It’s literally a console you have to plug in every where you go
I don't even plug it in because I don't play for super long. Usually just bus rides, or work breaks and that's fine by me. I guess if you really want battery life go with the Steam Deck :) to each their own.
I'd rather get a legion go or an Aya neo 2s anything that has smaller screen bezels
That’s great and all… but the ROG Ally has a shit battery life. It entirely defeats the purpose of a handheld gaming device if its battery life cant last.
I was an early adopter to the steam deck and I recently picked up a legion go and I still prefer the Steam Deck for most things, ease of use older titles but the legion is for PS3 emulation or other launchers and pure peformance on titles like Alan Wake II which I wouldn’t try on deck, aswell as with the g1 egpu you got a competent 4 in 1 windows tablet capable of 1440p gaming (with said gpu) I also use it as a media tablet with it’s beautiful 1440p display… basically what I’m trying to say is these devices albeit do the same thing offer widely different experiences and you can love them both and have both in your ecosystem or figure what’s good for you and what you value more.
The ally is a great handheld when you compare it to the steam deck until you remember it costs $700 for the extreme and let’s face it nobody should waste money on the non extreme. And the steam deck starts at $400 and goes up to $650. So in terms of pricing I’d sure hope the ally does more than the deck. And I think with the e current pricing the steam deck is gonna still dominate besides being less powerful. Just look at the switch for example.
I don't know if it's the case in your country but here the Ally has seen a massive pricedrop of 200CAD. It now costs 700CAD for the extreme version and the steam deck oled costs 680CAD. I think at the moment, at least here, it's worth to get the Ally.
Im so tired of people pretending SteamOS is a net positive for PC gaming when its actually a mixed bag at best. Its no fun when people ask why the Steam Deck cant play a certain game, and the best answer you can give is "Reasons".
Rog Ally is a little gaming laptop, more powerful, but battery life very small. And steam deck is a more portable device.
I think "portability" is very relative. Personally I feel like the Ally is literally more portable because I personally prefer lighter devices and my hands would strain from holding my Deck. I don't mind the battery much because of the way I use it.
Uh oh standing ten toes down😂
Batterylife is like 45 - 90 mins on Ally... loool that's a toy for people with to much money....I take a Switch Oled and SD Oled hell even LCD version rather than Rog Ally.... Imagine being on a flight and cant even play it without a powerbank. This is not a "handheld", but as a replace to a laptop absolutely a good option but this is not a "play on the go" device.
PS! Please don't fry my 512 Gb Micro SDXC card...
The better handheld is the steam oled. Just because you like the rog ally more doesn't makes it better. These are portable devices not pc. 1hour of gameplay that's a joke LOL
I have both and now I’m selling my asus.
Asus rog alli costs more. Battery lasts 1/3 what the steam deck lasts. If I want to stay connected to a charger I might as well get a gaming laptop. Also analog sticks feel better on steam deck.
Here it costs more than the SD Oled by 20$. I think for me its worth the upgrade. I don't even stay connected to a charger with my Ally because I don't have super long gaming sessions. To each their own.
Were the trackpads on the Ally? Use them a lot on deck so no use to me.
I understand you and others enjoy the track pads, though they are not essential for many. When playing games with a controller it's not like I hold an Xbox controller and say where's the track pads? And for navigating the os I feel you just get efficient with whatever you use. Non issue navigating windows with a joystick and a touch screen for me.
I have a power bank and id play 3 to 4 hours on ROG ALLY 😎
ROG ALLY REALLY BIG HOMIE steam deck lil homie and i mean that🤗
The Rog ally is better. Im throwing every game at it and runs just fine other then getting use to the controls for the games the Rog Ally is alot better.
you want a powerful device? get a pc lol besides you will get stock near a wall socket. The reason why switch still exist underpowered and yet good in sales.😅
rog ally 2 3 4 5 every other year so good luck
If only ROG ally has better battery. The steam deck oled batter makes a huge difference. I want to try the mods but the freaking thing makes it heavy and uglier
For th ROG Ally try scaling dow the TDP to 15W-20W. This will help with battery life
Dam jack your wrong!!! And she left u!!!! 😂😂😂
LOL it doesnt Crush anything
Rog allt is cool and all and nice chipset. But, meh
next video: Legion Go is better than the Ally. LOL!
Personal preference I guess
I recently upgraded to a GPD win mini from the deck..it's a huge difference the deck seems like an obsolete dinosaur compared to it
SD is the iphone. Ally is the android.
My thoughts exactly! Freedom >>>>>>>
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i like to see new rog allay new battery now battery turbo 45 min and dead steam deack oled seame game seame seting battery 3:18 min ..... Portabilitity and battery steam deack 2 point performance rog allay 1 point
Rog ally hour gaming lol
Steam deck Oled ff 7 remake 3-4 hours
Lmao. Melting sd cards
Mfw Linux is hard
cope
Correct
@@ProfessorTek 😂😂😂❤️
The fanboy who brought the deck on release. Know they messed up and will never admit it..
The steam deck only got battery life going for it.
The controller sticks being so high up sucks and not natural
Noone agrees with you. The sale numbers on the steam deck compared to the ally are proof enough, it's just much more consumer friendly and better in general. 800p on an oled screen looks better than 1080p on the allys lcd... try again my dude, and for performance, it's more than comfortable enough to play all my triple a games, it's also a fact the steam decks ergonomics shit on all the competition, especially the ally
@@JDabz96 Steam Deck fanboys is trying too hard. Nice try buddy!
I agree with this. Y’all fanboys better sell before it’s too late. Funny thing is Steam cut you off at the knees by releasing an identical device with minor upgrades, immediately lowering the value of the OG Steam deck. BRUTAL! Y’all shouldn’t let them get away with that instead of trying to prove the SD is worth anybody’s time lol
@nathanjuan6042 lol, I'm just smart, and I'm sorry you can't understand facts, this guy is clickbaiting Asus fanboys like you, he just a random youtuber that won't make it past 100k subs, yall are some inbreds or something, Asus has the worst rep in the industry from consumers. Just give it less than a year and they probably will stop supporting the ally
@EyeNVNo1 bro the upgrades are literally everything that everyone complained about In the first device, they actually listened to there consumers and improved every qol of the device without upgrading it completely, they said this is only a revision, Asus would never listen to there consumers, I get your not used to it you Asus fanboy, get screwed by that company you love some more, I enjoy watching, I'll stick with a company that gives a shit, you can die on that tiny hill with all your fellow fanboys, while Asus joins me to watch, they don't care about consumers and never have, geez your the definition of the word clown
1080 pee-ee 😂
I've had all three (both steam decks and the ROG). The OLED is the only one still here. Except for the first point in this video the rest you mention are utter nonsense.
Windows alone is a good enough reason not to have any windows based gaming handheld. It's terrible on a handheld. The power is irrelevant as the 1080p screen leaves you with similar frame rates to the 800p SP. Battery is a joke on the ROG. I had the SD issue and had to send it for repair. They should have all been recalled purely for this design flaw. The thumbsticks are far too loose feeling, the dpad is hypersensitive. The 1080 screen is slightly too.small so text can be extremely hard to read. It feels more a prototype than a finished device.
Its the best of the windows devices, but the list of downsides compared to the OLED is so much longer than vice versa.
everyone talking about steam os, windows, processor power and battery life... the most generic stuff when comparing both devices..
meanwhile here's me (who owns both) prefer the Steam Deck OLED because of trackpads and 4 back buttons ... and for that reason alone haha 😂😂
Launchers: Ah yes. Because the minor inconvenience to get a launcher to work (even though there are a million step-by-step guides on youtube), is totally worth the continual and regular hassle of operating windows with a controller, and the tedium that is the Armoury Crate, that Asus can't even get consistent (and has been neglected at times) on laptops. /sarcasm.
APU: None of these handheld devices can get stable and consistent 60FPS on Elden Ring even with lowering the resolution to rune scape graphics. Until that happens at a reasonable resolution for the screen as a bench mark: No One Wins, this doesn't matter, stop pretending your slight bit of performance gives you anything substantial and worth while. Even if you could make some sort of objective argument here; it's paying significantly more for and average of 5-8FPS.
Controller: Super subjective. and this is anecdotal but my wrists cramped a fuck ton more with the ally... Admittedly I do like the Ally's D pad and it's placement in games, but it sucks for desktop which I think is the more functional need.
Screen: I never owned the original Steam Deck, I started with the ally. But after getting the OLED I couldn't go back. I wanna say this is subjective, but I'd take a nicer display over one with technically better specs when you're still not even hitting my Elden Ring bench mark to begin with, and every other title looks better on OLED.
Flexibility from the OS: Yeah, this is why I bought the Ally to begin with (along with my expectations of performance), and will say that yes; This is a genuine superiority, even if I dismiss all the problems that come with windows (the updates are so intrusive)... Getting something to run that requires MS Gothic that proton didn't want to resolve was *particularly* annoying on steam deck. And anti-cheat stuff is also pain. (though I think it's a blessing in disguise to disallow kernel level anti-cheat, which is something that should be abolished.) But practically most things people use day to day either are fixed by proton, or have a linux version. If you absolutely hate tinkering, the flexibility is the one thing on this list I can say is objectively superior. But that's far from a deal breaker.
Over all in practice I found ROG Ally better for game pass, very well optimized first person shooters that take advantage of the hardware (which if I'm being honest I want a mouse and be seated at a desk for anyways), and running very very niche things that really only play well with windows.
For literally everything else, I found my OLED Steam Deck superior and much better value. My cousin got my old Ally at a super reduced price, so they are happy; but I think any savvy consumer who isn't supper addicted to single player shooters, and want it everywhere they go; should sleep on the Ally.
😂😂😂 steam suck low performanfe low resopution my switch is better
I have a OG SD AND I LOVE IT but ima buy a rog non extreme version in 2 weeks hopefully i can get a good deal on amazon are Best Buy I don’t feel comfortable buying it off ebay and the prices now people want more them$450 for a non extreme thats not gonna happen