The trumpet shall sound (Samuel Ramey) (Carnegie Hall Centennial Gala).avi

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  • Georg Friedrich Handel
    "The Messiah" (1741)
    Recit. Behold I tell you a mystery & air The trumpet shall sound
    Esto fue tomado durante la Gala por el centenario de la creación del Carnegie Hall. Canta el bajo estadounidense Samuel Ramey, acompañado por The New York Philarmonic, dirigida por James Levine en New York, el 05.05.1991. (El grave que hace Ramey hacia la mitad de la obra no está escrito pero queda buenísimo!!!)
    El texto dice:
    Recitative (Corinthians 15, 51-53)
    Behold, I tell you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
    Ahora voy a revelarles un misterio: No todos dormiremos, pero todos seremos transformados en un instante; en un abrir y cerrar de ojos. Al ultimo toque de la trompeta.
    Air
    The trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption and this mortal must put on immortality.
    La trompeta sonará y los muertos resucitarán incorruptos. Y nosotros seremos transformados. Porque es preciso que lo corruptible se revista de incorrupción y que este ser mortal se revista de inmortalidad.

Комментарии • 266

  • @PeterBarber
    @PeterBarber 2 года назад +14

    IMO the gold standard for any bass or bass-baritone singing this piece -- 10/10 👏

  • @charlottepatterson2864
    @charlottepatterson2864 2 года назад +46

    The best ever! Every note clear and distinct, every word completely understandable, and the power! What a gigantic thrill it must be to sing such glorious music so perfectly.

  • @allenjones3130
    @allenjones3130 Год назад +25

    One of the most gut-wrenchingly powerful performances I have seen and heard. The magnificent voice of Samuel Ramey and the impassioned performance of the orchestra under the skilled baton of Maestro Levine (particularly the solo trumpeter) make for an outstanding listening experience.

  • @stevevandien310
    @stevevandien310 3 года назад +20

    At this stage in Ramey's career, his voice and technique were ideal for "Messiah."

  • @ngreat4390
    @ngreat4390 5 лет назад +33

    Amen!!! When the said said trumpet shall sound... and the Lord Jesus shall descend with a shout, with the archangel and the Trump of God, I pray I shall be counted worthy to partake of the first resurrection...and to reign with him forever.
    Oh what a glorious day it shall be when the dead shall be raised. What an awesome God! So wonderful!!! I am greatly encouraged.
    Hallelujah!

    • @cvmetalworks4594
      @cvmetalworks4594 4 года назад +5

      Beautifully said! And how fitting to that magnificent performance. Thanks for the great comment!

  • @vicentepineda1860
    @vicentepineda1860 2 года назад +10

    The blessed saint gives humanity a challenge to believe, with words of hope, words to awaken faith, and words to live by. Beautiful performance. Thanks for uploading.

  • @greggsimpson7129
    @greggsimpson7129 6 лет назад +27

    This is simply a sublime performance by one of the great voices of our time.

  • @andrewmcconnell5035
    @andrewmcconnell5035 4 года назад +12

    The joy on the conductors face, the iron discipline of the trumpet player, these alone make this an amazing audio - visual feast. But..... add that voice, and truly , I have no words.

  • @davidmoore527
    @davidmoore527 5 лет назад +11

    In my youth in the 1940s l heard the English bass Owen Brannigan singing this wonderful aria at the annual "Messiah" in the Usher Hall in Edinburgh on the "New Year " concert. My person bass hero was Boris Christov but l must admit Samuel Ramey performs to perfection in this superb video. Many thanks to "You Tube" for allowing me to hear this masterful performance and making an old Opera Buff very happy.!!!!!!

    • @thesaucegroup1877
      @thesaucegroup1877 Год назад

      You were alive in the 40s? Wtf

    • @helgapfaender8158
      @helgapfaender8158 3 месяца назад

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  • @ngreat4390
    @ngreat4390 5 лет назад +4

    Amen!!! When the said said trumpet shall sound... and the Lord Jesus shall descend with a shout, with the archangel and the Trump of God, I pray I shall be counted worthy to partake of the first resurrection...and to reign with him forever.
    Hallelujah!

  • @DocEsquire
    @DocEsquire 10 лет назад +78

    I have yet to hear a more superb basso sound. Ramey is the master. Thank God that I have been able to listen to him through the years, it's been a blessing.

    • @manthasagittarius1
      @manthasagittarius1 9 лет назад +3

      Doc Esquire Jerome Hines? Not that it is or should be a contest.

    • @Anton_the_Vampire
      @Anton_the_Vampire 9 лет назад +5

      +manthasagittarius1 Kurt Moll would be the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons in THAT contest! haha

    • @douglasmacneil4474
      @douglasmacneil4474 7 лет назад +3

      Yes he is the best and it is my ambition to get half as good as him!!!

    • @OscarLevant1
      @OscarLevant1 6 лет назад +5

      Hines makes Ramey sound like a school boy!!!!

    • @PeterBarber
      @PeterBarber 6 лет назад +11

      And Glenn Miller makes Hines sound like a school boy -- its not a contest of who has the darkest, lowest voice (Ramey's range was actually lower than Hines, anyway). Hines was fantastic, and Ramey is fantastic -- they have different voices.

  • @marisataffini1789
    @marisataffini1789 3 года назад +6

    Unico grandissimo interprete di questa bellissima aria ascoltarlo è una immensa gioia grazie Samuel

  • @perolsen4271
    @perolsen4271 4 года назад +12

    Majestic singing. Great trumpet.

  • @danbev8542
    @danbev8542 5 лет назад +13

    Oh MY! Fabulous! I don't know whether I like Samuel's sublime voice better, or the trumpets'. Both together in my favorite part of Messiah leave me speechless.

  • @jamblman
    @jamblman 10 лет назад +23

    I remember watching this at the time and loved every second of it. Fantastic performance. Ramey's voice is like a roaring lion. Superb!!

  • @JannieOr
    @JannieOr 9 лет назад +36

    In case anyone's wondering, this was May 5th 1991 for the Carnegie Hall Centennial Festival Gala.
    "In next Sunday's gala concerts, the New York Philharmonic will be conducted by Mr. (Zubin) Mehta and Mr. (James) Levine. Featured artists include Leontyne Price, Jessye Norman, Marilyn Horne, Plácido Domingo, Samuel Ramey, Mr. (Isaac) Stern, Midori, Pinchas Zukerman, Mr. (Yo-Yo) Ma, Mstislav Rostropovich and Alfred Brendel. In addition, Robert Shaw conducts a morning program featuring New York-area choruses."
    New York Times, April 28, 1991
    WHAT A LINEUP!!!!!!

    • @madcityobserver6294
      @madcityobserver6294 7 лет назад

      @ Jann Orfi: Thanks so much for the info. I'm always pleased to read any comment that makes a positive contribution. Yes, indeed! The lineup was superb, as was Mr. Ramey in this solo.

    • @amybeech9425
      @amybeech9425 4 года назад

      Thanks for the info. I could tell it was not 2011, by how young he was, but I didn’t know when it was.

  • @manlioerta7221
    @manlioerta7221 2 года назад +2

    Due grandi della musica: Georg Friedrich Handel ( proprio Handel, come Lui voleva). Musica inconfondibile del genio (The Messiah) , ma cantata da uno dei più grandi bassi/baritoni della storia del canto, secondo il mio giudizio. Un bellissimo concerto barocco, nel quale tromba e voce si inseguono, dialogano, secondo perfette regole di contrappunto , nel quale Handel era maestro, senza perdere la spiritualità della musica sacra : semmai un annuncio grandioso del Messia. Grande orchestra, diretta da un grande Maestro.

  • @JannieOr
    @JannieOr 9 лет назад +25

    God, that was perfection. Absolute perfection, imo.

  • @michaelk.1712
    @michaelk.1712 2 года назад +5

    I was accustomed to having the tenor add in embellishments in this song. This one keeps it so simple and basic, and just as, if not more, wonderful.

  • @giulianataramella1192
    @giulianataramella1192 4 года назад +6

    Meraviglia di musica e voce! inarrivabile!

  • @robertbruce1552
    @robertbruce1552 4 года назад +5

    Could not sleep had to hear it.

  • @carlosbashuertas
    @carlosbashuertas 6 лет назад +15

    Oh my God, I have heard many and this is the best.

  • @jimyoung940
    @jimyoung940 10 месяцев назад +2

    The Mick Jagger of operatic basses. Doesn't get any better than this. I think even Handel would have been blown away.

  • @Zebthe3rd
    @Zebthe3rd 9 лет назад +27

    "Behold, I show you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed."
    I remember that this verse was on the nursery door in my old church. Cute.
    Thanks for sharing this clip.
    I'm always pleased to find a display of Ramey's magnificent voice.

  • @sdorr
    @sdorr 5 лет назад +10

    Ramey is wonderful, as is Handel!!!

  • @RandyDunnTrumpet
    @RandyDunnTrumpet 10 лет назад +31

    Great performance! Ramey sounds fantastic, a beautiful, robust, bass soloist. And the trumpet soloist, Phillip Smith (principal trumpet with the New York Philharmonic) is as good as they get, and plays equally beautifully here. Ramey and Smith are such excellent musicians that they are able to compliment each other so well in this performance, bringing their parts out more where appropriate, and falling more into the background where that is called for (nice dynamic contrasts and phrasing) and they always achieve perfect balance, with both parts clearly heard throughout the piece.

    • @creatioexnihilo6599
      @creatioexnihilo6599 5 лет назад

      It was a different era for sure. You simply had to be great. Now there are so many that aren't worth listening to at all.

  • @josuefloreslyra7162
    @josuefloreslyra7162 8 лет назад +9

    A trombeta soará ! Que música magnífica! Não me canso de ouvir e também admirar Samuel Ramey!

  • @carlospeinadojacobs4650
    @carlospeinadojacobs4650 9 лет назад +10

    GRACIAS POR ESTA DIVINA PROFECIA......

  • @giulianataramella1192
    @giulianataramella1192 4 года назад +6

    Mgnifico, insuperabile!

  • @robertgiles8073
    @robertgiles8073 6 лет назад +9

    I will never forget his singing of Caesar in the Handel "Giulio Cesare" at the Met. Such a
    magnificent artist who's talent and gifts are beyond any other we have heard.

  • @carlosenriqueparralozano5041
    @carlosenriqueparralozano5041 Год назад +2

    Excelente voz. Y la orquesta con uno de los mejores directores👍

  • @Simba92
    @Simba92 10 лет назад +10

    His voice brought tears to my eyes. Exquisite.

  • @GuillaumeDeslandres
    @GuillaumeDeslandres 2 года назад +2

    L'ensemble est très daté, mais la performance de Ramey est extraordinaire par la qualité de l'engagement. La voix, bien sûr, mais aussi l'émission, la projection, le "port" du corps, le regard rempli du sens des paroles. Bravo ! Et aussi quelle merveille dans la "Messe en si" de Bach avec St Martin in the Fields. Un très grand chanteur, authentique.

  • @melissastoudenheimer9836
    @melissastoudenheimer9836 2 года назад +2

    He walks on, sings it perfectly and with the most beautiful operatic voice I, personally, have ever heard either in person or on recordings (and I've heard thousands, thankfully Mr. Ramey in person at the MET many times), walks off!!!!!! Whoo Hoo!!!! Bravissimo!!!!!!!!

  • @cerberocaronte7439
    @cerberocaronte7439 6 лет назад +10

    Stupenda voce di Samuel Ramey.

  • @richardsmerdon3256
    @richardsmerdon3256 3 года назад +3

    surely this is the definitive rendering ,Samuel Ramey: The bass's Bass! He is the master.

  • @williamjueschke9960
    @williamjueschke9960 4 года назад +6

    Beautiful.

  • @АлександрЯрков-ш2з
    @АлександрЯрков-ш2з 3 года назад +6

    Bravo bravo bravo

  • @bernardtannerjr.6010
    @bernardtannerjr.6010 12 лет назад +7

    What an astonishing voice Ramey had even when he was so young.

  • @bassoonmom8914
    @bassoonmom8914 6 лет назад +20

    And that, folks, is how it's done.

  • @edstevenson8934
    @edstevenson8934 3 года назад +3

    All respects due to Mr. Ramey's Kansas heritage -- BUT -- we're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy, we're in heaven.

  • @rahimaali1073
    @rahimaali1073 9 лет назад +11

    Happy holidays everyone. I'm celebrating by watching several hours of this video. The mingling of the powerful bass voice with the sweet high sounds of the trumpet is truly amazing. I am blessed to hear such beauty.

  • @jorgedavila1479
    @jorgedavila1479 2 года назад +2

    Gesaponti: ¡the time is not important for the genius! Thanks for a great souvenir: Ramey, Levine, The Carnegie!

  • @curaticac5391
    @curaticac5391 3 года назад +5

    Great singer.

  • @wilfredoikle7534
    @wilfredoikle7534 9 лет назад +6

    I first heard Mr Ramey on a CD of Brahms German Requiem with Margaret Price as the female soloist. What magnificent music. I have been a fan of his ever cince. Unfortunately Ms. Price is no longer with us.

  • @LindenwoodMusic
    @LindenwoodMusic 5 лет назад +4

    Beautiful singing, Mr. Ramey. So bravura, and your top is glorious. Congrats!!

  • @DrBrianKlinge
    @DrBrianKlinge 5 месяцев назад +1

    Such a Dynamic and Powerful Voice! (Much experience anf Yearsof Training)….WOW….BRAVO, BRAVO !!!🙏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸😇😇😊🐈‍⬛

  • @수현신-m6u
    @수현신-m6u 7 месяцев назад +1

    Bravo and great~🧑‍🎤👨‍🎤👩‍🎤😊

  • @artfuldodger4850
    @artfuldodger4850 4 года назад +6

    What a great voice

  • @rahimaali1073
    @rahimaali1073 11 лет назад +11

    Majestic! My favorite version of my all time favorite song. The trumpet player is awesome! Who is he?

  • @Rosangela161
    @Rosangela161 4 года назад +5

    Always magnificent!! Thank you.

  • @talvela100
    @talvela100 6 лет назад +4

    La voce adatta a quest'aria bella, ma difficile come poche altre: voce estesa e piena, ricca di sfumature. Bravissimo

  • @シュガープラム-p6g
    @シュガープラム-p6g Год назад +2

    Wonderful voice 🎉

  • @cheristringer4780
    @cheristringer4780 7 лет назад +8

    Samuel Ramey was the best. Best overall performance was Toronto Symphony under Andrew Davis with Ramey as bass.

  • @jedavilav1
    @jedavilav1 5 лет назад +13

    Sí, Ramey fue un maestro entre los bajos del mundo, en su época dorada, hace unos 25 años o un poco más. Gracias por esta joya!

  • @carloseduardopedroza
    @carloseduardopedroza 8 лет назад +6

    This is so beautiful! Yet is the first recording I've ever seen of Ramey breaking his voice!!! :O but putting that aside, it's a remarkable work indeed!! Ramey will always be one of my top role models! B)

    • @creatioexnihilo6599
      @creatioexnihilo6599 5 лет назад +1

      @yafargo What option did he have with his natural endowments?

  • @tanyadixon7980
    @tanyadixon7980 5 лет назад +2

    Magnificent! Beauteous resonance. The trumpet sounds! The cornet plays.

  • @anncline5469
    @anncline5469 7 лет назад +6

    Makes me feel the way I did when I was an Episcopalian---grand and glorious music. This was Kansan Samuel Ramey and a Tom Wills look-alike on the trumpet.

    • @creatioexnihilo6599
      @creatioexnihilo6599 6 лет назад +1

      Seems if we are going to make a gesture at worship: At least we can give it our best.

    • @deloach132435
      @deloach132435 4 года назад

      @@creatioexnihilo6599 Our chiefest privilege.

  • @goodtrumpeter
    @goodtrumpeter 11 лет назад +6

    Phil Smith.. Outstanding

  • @jocelynen2572
    @jocelynen2572 8 лет назад +10

    muchas gracias por subir este vídeo: es fantástico

  • @dwetick1
    @dwetick1 10 лет назад +15

    Sam Ramey at Carnegie Hall...what could be better than that!

  • @theodorebiele5201
    @theodorebiele5201 10 лет назад +12

    Indeed, what could be better than Ramey and an excellent trumpet? Perhaps heaven, if it exists.

    • @creatioexnihilo6599
      @creatioexnihilo6599 6 лет назад

      Keep dreaming, and work!

    • @robharris5467
      @robharris5467 6 лет назад

      yes a modern trumpet has a much brighter sound. Period instruments may be closer to those used back in the day. Bigger halls need cut through.

    • @gtdadof10
      @gtdadof10 5 лет назад

      Oh heaven exists alright, and the Father of Lights has made every provision through His Son, Jesus Christ, for you to be there with Him. His love is non pareil, without peer. Look into it, you might find it worth the exploration.

  • @geonmzahsan6640
    @geonmzahsan6640 Месяц назад

    Tremendous ,& a rich tone. God bless

  • @JRobbySh
    @JRobbySh 12 лет назад +4

    Very good indeed.Lovely voice.

  • @stevenfairless4931
    @stevenfairless4931 2 года назад +2

    exceptional

  • @ScaramouchedaVinci
    @ScaramouchedaVinci Год назад +1

    For me Samuel Ramey's rich bass and the great Bryn Terfel are by far the best recordings of the trumpet aria here on youtube.

    • @ScaramouchedaVinci
      @ScaramouchedaVinci 11 месяцев назад

      Now I have also discovered George Tozzi and Jeromy Hines here. Wow!

    • @allenjones3130
      @allenjones3130 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, Messrs. Hines and Tozzi sang this aria magnificently, as did William Warfield.

  • @hannothephoenician633
    @hannothephoenician633 7 месяцев назад +3

    The greatest singer in all of the human race.

  • @Arashi110
    @Arashi110 12 лет назад +2

    No other bass could sing Handel as magnificently as Sam!

  • @MrRambaldo86
    @MrRambaldo86 Год назад +1

    Perfetto!

  • @paulojoaquim2930
    @paulojoaquim2930 6 лет назад +2

    Great performance! Ramey....fantastic

  • @dennistedder3384
    @dennistedder3384 11 лет назад +7

    Well, there goes my 40 years of playing trumpet down the drain; the trumpet sounds spot on to me. Never mind my perfect pitch.

  • @KCTrumpeterAPB
    @KCTrumpeterAPB 11 лет назад +2

    (#2) All things considered, Phil's effort at this concert was nothing short of super human. 4. I guess that's what I find most sad about youtube, is that more often than not, people make uninformed opinions of others based one on little moment in time, without the wherewithall to be able to understand what they are listening to in the big picture. -- Continued --

  • @Fredelatorsion
    @Fredelatorsion 11 лет назад +10

    The trompet player does very properly an excellent job. La critique est aisée, l'art est difficile...

  • @scottjohnson9873
    @scottjohnson9873 4 года назад +2

    In a heavy performance, that is using operatic talelnts, orchestra and conductor who is accostomed to opera, I can only say that the finality of said performances must be to show talents to touch the ears. However, with lighter, sensitive voices, orchestra, chorus and conductor, I think the finality is to touch the soul. In the case of oratorios, cantatas and masses I choose the performance according to who is performing what. Yes, a robust "The trumpet shall sound" from the Messiah by G.F. Handel as sung by Samuel Ramey is wonderful to listen to. However, Phillip Sly's rendition reacdhes the soul.

  • @joyceoxfeld8396
    @joyceoxfeld8396 10 лет назад +1

    This beautiful trumpet work with a difficult passage on a difficult instrument. The Bass I have been a fan of for a very long time. I like his Baron Scarpia in Tosca.

  • @cvmetalworks4594
    @cvmetalworks4594 4 года назад +2

    Superb.

  • @kmacbunyip
    @kmacbunyip 12 лет назад +2

    Yes, Bravo Dad!!!! we love you and are very proud of every performance. :)

  • @Aegisth
    @Aegisth 10 лет назад +3

    Happy Birthday, Samuel :)

  • @King-ui6kt
    @King-ui6kt 11 месяцев назад +1

    The best ever! This is my most favorite song in Messiah. No other singer has sung this song so magnificently. Samuel Ramey is a great bass singer in history.

  • @geonmzahsan6640
    @geonmzahsan6640 4 месяца назад

    Tremendous, great clarity & accurate

  • @markiangooley
    @markiangooley 10 лет назад +2

    Different from the more Baroque-style performances I'm used to, but has its own delights. First-rate musicians of course.

  • @hudsonbailey674
    @hudsonbailey674 7 лет назад +7

    Bellissimo!

  • @Allipat21
    @Allipat21 12 лет назад +3

    It's Perfect !!!

  • @mmimtc
    @mmimtc 5 лет назад +2

    ¡ Genial! ¡Y excelente dicción!

  • @icecreamforcrowhurst
    @icecreamforcrowhurst 3 месяца назад +1

    Magnificent

  • @rickos1915
    @rickos1915 9 лет назад +14

    A nearly perfect performance.....cease thy carping.

  • @swilgenburg983
    @swilgenburg983 8 лет назад +5

    Ramey has a fantastic voice. I'd love to hear him paired with Wynton Marsalis on the trumpet for this song!

    • @theodorebiele5201
      @theodorebiele5201 7 лет назад +1

      Aria, anyway. Total agreement!

    • @christophetetu3948
      @christophetetu3948 6 лет назад

      yafargo : for the same music composed by Haendel, Simon Estes & Maurice André are much more convincing.

  • @esta1ful
    @esta1ful 5 лет назад +2

    He’s so great!

  • @markusaustria7952
    @markusaustria7952 5 месяцев назад

    Great voice, poor guy Samuel! Always overpowered! Forced by Jimmy Levine singing Handel! Look at Philippe Sly! Perfect stylistic balance with natural trumpet and orchestra , great timbre, not only voice!
    Fine attentive text execution!

  • @MsSandtime
    @MsSandtime 12 лет назад +1

    Happy Birthday SAMI.Beautiful !!! I wish you would sing at the church this part.,I'll join you. so as other singers.Much love.

  • @williambattaglini7201
    @williambattaglini7201 10 лет назад +6

    To who criticize the baritone and the trumpet:
    Do you EVER received a porposal from Carnegie Hall to partecipate at his Centennial Gala? :-)

  • @bravaLiz
    @bravaLiz 7 лет назад +3

    LOVE HIM!

  • @donna30044
    @donna30044 5 лет назад +1

    What a magnificent instrument!

  • @mariangelsmolpeceres5609
    @mariangelsmolpeceres5609 8 лет назад

    Un fracment que m`agrada molt i molt ben cantat per Ramey.
    Maria Angels Molpeceres

  • @manolis.799
    @manolis.799 6 лет назад

    This thing scares the shit out of me and Ramey sings it like it's Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. Bravo

  • @petergraham8681
    @petergraham8681 Год назад +1

    Absolutely superb. A voice made for this music. Ramey looks very youthful here. I wonder when this was done?

    • @gesaporiti
      @gesaporiti  Год назад

      Carnegie Hall Centennial Gala
      May 5th, 1991

  • @elizabethgrasmueck3585
    @elizabethgrasmueck3585 9 лет назад +1

    Among the "oldtimers" hahaha ( depending on your age)..... THE BEST of AMERICANS... Bass... Ramey, Mezzo.... (no DOUBT about this one) Marilyn Horne.... and Soprano Leontyne Price. Seriously. HOLY BREATH CONTROL, mistress of glissando, pianissimo, fortissimo, phrasing (see her "farewell performance at the Met" ...the O Patria Mia from Aida where she set a record breaking standing ovation. The BEST part, is her reaction to the applause after she completes the aria. I cannot think of the link but NOT the one on RUclips as presented by R. Fleming. Speaking strictly of American singers, having some trouble with thinking of a tenor of the same era... perhaps, Hadley??? Someone who may read this. Help me out.

    • @Cutehappypuppy
      @Cutehappypuppy 5 лет назад

      Fantastic, but Jerome Hines was even better.

  • @jamesmiller6244
    @jamesmiller6244 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fabulous

  • @AllenJones-w3p
    @AllenJones-w3p 5 месяцев назад +1

    Sing this in memory of Maestra Patricia Janeckova.

  • @darrylramey8851
    @darrylramey8851 4 года назад +1

    Amazing vocal control and endurance.... not just saying it because he is a Ramey....