Just moved to TX from Oakland,CA, and before I left I voted for Prop 36.We're so tired of the lawlessness, theft, and normalized criminal behavior its unreal.
@@JmacDaloc i'm black and I voted for it to pass. Newsom wants to act like these folks shouldn't be held account because many - not all - are black and brown.Ridiculousness!
Nooo that mean you are smart! Remember if you steal 100 bucks you are thief if you steal or cheat country for million's you are smart successful man! Look what doing people in government senator's and everybody else all have some schemes to get money huge money,but nobody never go in jail, bank's ruined world almost and wall street and in the end only one man go to jail some low fruit who buy house to his mother I think and all other CEOS get billions for make that happen!
Gavin Newsom and his aunt Nancy Pelosi both should be charged as felons because they chose to pass these laws to steal from their law-abiding citizens.
@ but we know about his income as a corporation. You don't think they'd be on him like stink on shit if he didn't do things legally? They had to trump up charges. He can nake money. He's in business. He was president for four years. He's got a barn full of great kids that can do everything and they are entitled to make as much as they can and get paid. Why don't you ask Paul pelosi how he knew to buy the railway property before the speed rail started and then sold it to the state at huge profits. Don't stay in a bubble. There are not even tracks down. Disgusting humans
Living in California as a foreigner, we were shocked at how people can walk out with stolen goods and not get stopped. In Fiji, the security or shopkeeper can tackle you and you will go to jail. Repeating offences can get you into prison.
Lol banana republic. Hopefully things will be better now under Trump. Would love to visit Fiji one day. Your 7s rugby team is great and i love your Christian values.
Part of it is that insurance companies saw that injured employees are expensive due to medical expenses and potential lawsuits so they made rules that say employees can't fight or argue with thieves, their only choice is to call the police. If they disobey, they could get fired. Most insurance does not cover minor theft so the insurance company does not care if that happens. But over time that has caused thieves to become more and more bold since they rarely are challenged. Then California made laws that meant people did not get prison for minor crimes and also the police forces have gotten very understaffed so they don't want to waste time on paperwork to arrest a thief if the thief won't even get jail time, so they may take an hour or two to show up for calls about theft, it's not something they want to deal with. Over time, employees stop bothering to call the police since it's useless. However Orange County is more republican so they perhaps are still trying harder. I wonder if the Orange County police released this to try to deter other shoplifters that they WILL be enforcing the new law.
I always wondered if someone was rolling out the store with just under $950 of merchandise, and someone were to add a package to the cart tipping them over the limit, just how that would play out in court. ;-) "But you're honor, I didn't steal that!" "Oh, and you're admitting to have stolen everything else?"
I witnessed a cashier at Walgreens get robbed. That criminal just walked in jumped over the counter and took out a few hundred dollars from the register then walked out. The cashier was in complete shocked and was told to continue to work. I was so mad when I saw. These people are not poor and stealing. Don't be stupid! They stealing and making money. It's a business.
Yeah easy for him, he lives in his ivory tower with gates and security and isn't plagued by catalytic converter theft, broken windows, homeless sleeping and pooping in his yard, and suddenly being attacked by crazy people on the street, many of whom having been constant catch and release criminals but we can't put them in jail because that would be racist or something, it's all gone insane. The 90s era dems were generally reasonable but that's all gone out the window now. Try to complain and they'll now tell you these poor sad girls probably just needed food for their starving babies or something, as if California didn't already have food programs for the poor and free food kitchens. But their brainwashing runs deep it seems so logic does not work.
@@KGM95 thankfully he Cannot run for governor again and I plan to vote for the exact opposite of him when I get the chance. Unfortunately I believe he will run for president, so hopefully Americans can see him for the snake he is and votes against him.
I’m from CA, and crime reporting is “down” because businesses stopped filing claims due to cost of insurances going up as a result of the theft/claim. Some insurance carriers were canceling policies as well. So businesses stopped reporting the theft and ate the cost as it was cheaper than losing insurance.
Good to know thanx. I've spoken to employees in my area of San Diego and many told me they also stopped calling because the cops take 1 or 2 hours to show and then don't do anything and act like you are bothering them. Even if you have good quality video of the incident, they don't want to see it. So there's no point to calling and they quite trying.
Crime has never been legal in California lol. People were still getting arrested for stealing candy bars prior to this law change. Don’t believe the news
It seems like it started with Covid. They seen the looting went unpunished . Also I'm july 2023 , it became unlawful for employees to approach shoplifters. Also mask wearing is not suspicious anymore .
Because Women don’t want to punish anybody that’s why the father figures so important. And these states are controlled by women. It’s all feelings and emotions.
What did California and its DAs think would happen when they made shoplifting any amount less that $1000.00 not even a punishable offense???? All it did was create an incentive that encouraged more shoplifting
The point was to make the public desperate enough to consent to a much more draconian police state rather than simply having police arrest criminals. Discouraging police from doing their jobs with high profile show trials against cops for people ODing in custody/taking down criminals who were actively charging civilians with weapons was another part of this, as were the DAs and prosecutors who let criminals out mere hours after violent crimes. Criminalizing self defense was an important aspect for demoralization. It's a pretty open plan, a whole bunch of NGOs laid it out in publically available papers, then funded the politicians who got it done. Technically this makes them unregistered foreign agents, but "unregistered foreign agents" kinda run the regime so we're unlikely to see that go anywhere unless the people unite.
Live in LA, my car has been broken into 3 times. My neighbor had a note saying "nothing in the car". His car was broken into and the robber wrote "just checking".
What makes these laws interesting is that anyone who has previously stolen less than $1,000 got away with it, but moving forward, if they get caught stealing again-such as taking $50 worth of merchandise-and they have a record of a previous theft under $1,000 (for example, $920), those incidents can now be combined. As a result, they could face a felony charge if the total exceeds $950.
What does that have to do with the individual responsibility and morality? There is no justification. And it’s not like people are starving in America. We have obese homeless.
@@TTex123 Oh god, please don't be one of those "whaddabout" people. You can say that for pretty much anything, but if we have to preface each damn comment about something else, that would be a waste of time and server storage space.
@OGRustinMac well its called keep the same energy lol. They constantly change laws for us peons. But we're still waiting for the harsh punishments for politicians who loby.
My wife's brother's son (must still make him my nephew) is now in his 40's: Lives in LA. Has been arrested for strong-arm robbery and went to jail a few years ago but also got out some time ago. Lives in his car or with friends, along with his girlfriend. COULD work, but prefers to steal for a living. A meth addict. Has been arrested many times ----- faced years of incarceration when THE trial was about to happen. BUT all his charges have been thrown out by the LA District Attorney. He remains free and on the streets, with no intention to ever change what he is doing. Who is the criminal? Or should I say, the other criminal in this true story? It is the LA District Attorney. The police can arrest all day long, but when the DA does not care, nothing will change. PS: he and his brother had a clothing business for awhile. Named 'Robinsteal'. It did not last long because they actually had to work....
Pat is so spot on about the relationship between mom & daughters. I can't counthe number of times I got in trouble for getting into my mom's make-up. It was one of the most serious offenses in our house! Seriously 😂
Stop the narrative by making it seem like only Black people are shoplifters. It's a thief problem, not a race problem. And to keep it a stack, I feel no remorse for shoplifters that get caught regardless of gender or race. ruclips.net/video/wft3MoSyPS0/видео.html
Stealing is a sin, I don’t believe that I’ve ever thought ever stealing anything. I mean I’ve wanted things that I couldn’t afford, but stealing never crossed my mind.
😢😢😢😢What makes me very angry is that the governor of California says that those who incarcerate us people of color in all its dimensions go to jail faster and that citizens pay at least $1000 to have a person incarcerated. I am a person of color. I have lived in the United States for 34 years. I have always worked and so far, knock on wood, I have not had any problems with justice because I am a poor person but I am always working, but not because I am poor or because I want something that I fancy, I am going to go and take it from a reputable store. No, sir. And that is what the governor says. Many people of color are going to jail. But if people of color are committing crimes, they need to go to jail. It does not offend me because because I am a person who did not come to destroy this country, I am an American citizen and I love the United States and I also respect myself because I am not going to go around begging. I have values. And if people think that because they are going to steal less than 950 dollars they are not going to go to jail, then they will. They screwed up now the amount is less and I hope they don't find a flaw in the law because there are also fraudulent lawyers who let these types of people run wild. Here in San Francisco, there are no longer any open stores. Everything has to be ordered via Amazon or other online stores and I don't like that. I don't like to see what I'm going to buy and everything is very expensive. I hope this changes because the truth is that it makes me very depressed!
They only worry about cost to govt when it's a core function govt should and must do. Spending on all matter of frivolous programs is never a concern. Up is down, down is up.
Before you have a conniption fit, I am a Black man that is posting this. But please stop the narrative by making it seem like only Black people are shoplifters. Too many on social media are using these two idiot Black women in the video which creates another false narrative about Black people when there are many videos of non-Black people that have been arrested for shoplifting in the pat couple of days and will also hopefully get charged with felonies. This is a behavioral, not a race problem. I feel no remorse for shoplifters that get caught regardless of gender or race. Statistically, men shoplift more than women (there is actual data to prove this). Too many of you are eager to put emphasis on Black people that shoplift but not believe that there is statistical data to back up "shopping while Black" but you sure don't want to put blame on non-Black people that work in stores that verbally and physically harass innocent Black people everyday for simply shopping while Black. Richard Hollinger, a criminologist at the University of Florida and a researcher of a study states: "Overall, blacks and Hispanics were no more likely than whites to steal merchandise. However, when race and gender were examined by subcategory, Hispanic females stole the most, shoplifting at more than seven times the rate of white females." "Shoplifters were most commonly between the ages of 35 and 54. These middle-aged adults, most of them gainfully employed, were “primary household shoppers” who occasionally stole to acquire goods whose cost stretched beyond their household budgets." ruclips.net/video/wft3MoSyPS0/видео.html
10 years asset protection at Best Buy. Two things. People didn't care. They knew we could not do anything about it. Second, police response. We were lucky to have the police show up 30-40 minutes after calling in. If I had a description of suspects provided by other stores ap, I approached them at the door as they entered and told them straight up I know who they are, why they are there, and the police are on there way. Most times, they would leave. Still, theft is way out of control. Love your videos. Thanks.
Stop the narrative by making it seem like only Black people are shoplifters. It's a thief problem, not a race problem. And to keep it a stack, I feel no remorse for shoplifters that get caught regardless of gender or race. ruclips.net/video/wft3MoSyPS0/видео.html
How could they be so stupid as to have such laws in the first place? It was sickening to see people steal and just be able to walk out like it was nothing. That goes against the grain, it's all wrong, like being in the Twilight Zone or something.
In most states, a first-time petty theft conviction is considered a misdemeanor. California happens to be among only about 10 states who may convict someone with a felony for multiple offenses under $1,000
IN INDIANA -- depending on the prosecutor AND IF THE STORE WANTS TO PRESS CHARGES ***SHOP LIFTING IS THEFT *** In Indiana ***THEFT IS A FELONY*** so since 1990 when I got on the police force in INDIANA You were charged with THEFT ***A FELONY*** if you were caught for shop lifting.
The problem isn't single-parent households, it's the single mom industrial complex. We give away too much free stuff and people think they're entitled to everything. Get rid of all the free stuff we'll stop creating horrible parents that only have kids so they can get paid.
That updated shoplifter sign is Legendary! pricing everything that way and discounting at the counter is genius, just horrible stores even need to use their critical thinking skills for something like this.
Shoplifting can be charged as a felony in California if there are any prior theft-related convictions. They are known as wobblers, which means they can be charged as either a felony or misdemeanor. Petty-theft with a prior can even be the last of a three-strikes case, if there are two convictions for any serious and/or violent felonies. The third strike can be any felony, not just serious and/or violent. There are plenty of people in California in prison for life due to a conviction for petty-theft.
At the same time you can't blame the victims of the tyranny of the majority who broke it. I'm Californian, I never voted for Newsom, never voted blue. We corrected course from a terrible criminal governor. The work is not done, but it's headed the right way. Or would you rather we stayed the ret@rded course we were on?
Come to think 🤔🤔🤔🤔 about it, I didn't get a felony at 12 for stealing candy from Walgreens. There's something wrong with the politicians and legislators.
I live in Ca, in the San Joaquin Central Valley. Alot of us there are Conservatives, however, the Bay Area and the L.A. area are mostly Dems and they have a choke hold on our State, it's SOOO FRUSTRATING! 😢😢😢
I think it's a stretch to say because they stole more than $1000 by adding it up from multiple stores. I'm pretty sure it is meant to be $1000 from one location. They are 2 different incidents. Any lawyer will be able to point that out.
Think about the intent of the law. If it's to protect communities from crime, then a person stealing over a dollar amount from one business or stealing from three businesses that are next to each other, the intention by charging them with a felony is to prevent mass losses due to crime for businesses in the community.
Pat and friends - your first offense of shoplifting is NOT a felony, second offenses, third offenses, & subsequent offenses plus the over $1,000 products are BACK to being felonies! They used to be felonies, and then I don't know what happened to make that $950 limit misdemeanors, but something was rolled back and we put it back in place to make it a felony once again!! It used to affect parolees the most, because parolees have already committed felonies usually. So if they steal something, it was an automatic felony - because it's a violation AND a new charge & they're already on parole. So, I think it was to give leniency to people, but it was a WAY too much. Leniency should be anything over $50, maybe $100, NOT $1,000. Who's stealing things worth $1,000? I mean you have to go into a super designer store to find anything worth that much. You'd have to be carrying like 40 things out of Target, unless you go to the electronics department or the jewelry department. Even then 10 or 15 things to get $1,000 worth of stuff. I am SO GLAD that WE VOTED this back into place! As I was growing up, this WAS in place - and yes if you get caught shoplifting, a second time, you get a felony - and if you steal habitually, you went to prison! I think people thought that was not cool. But they don't learn their lessons, probably happened about the same time as Biden or Gavin came into play, but I am SO GLAD it's back in place. SO glad! Thanks for covering it. Love your show, Pat!
I know a female shop lifter, that got caught the other day, than broke away first on foot, than got chased by the police in the car, got away again, than ditched the car in an apartment complex, and got away a 3rd time on foot, and this all happened back to back in about a 20 minute period, and then she went back an to the car an hour later, retrieved the car and got away again. With the car. Crazy, i wouldn't have thought that was possible in this day and time. But it happened about a week ago. The car was a rental btw.
The DA's have recordings from prison phones where people inside are coaching people outside. The one DA I listened to said the prisoners told people on the outside DO NOT STEAL IN EL DORADO COUNTY! THEY WILL PROSECUTE YOU! And the one phone call was funny because the thief was complaining about stealing over the (county) line.
$500 should be a felony. Stealing is a crime. Under $500 Should pay restitution to store and the court plus 30 days in county jail. Three strikes your in prison.
The new law that California is enforcing may in fact end up being unconstitutional. What the law does is that it combines all the thefts an individual may have made over a given period of time and adds up the total value of the items stolen. Prosecutors will consider the total value of all items stolen during a period of time, if the total of all stolen items is $951or more, it is prosecuted as ONE CRIME OF GRAND THEFT. I think you can see the problem here. California is not arresting people after an individual case of shoplifting they are waiting an letting them rob many different places and then, when the total value is high enough, the cops swoop in and arrest charging them with grand theft. You can't treat several different minor crimes as collectively one greater crime. That is like following around a bully who beats up a bunch of people an not arresting him until he has beat up enough people to cause enough damage that if it was done to one person they would have died, so you charge them with murder. I can't image that such a tactic is constitutional. You can see how this law could be abused and knowing California as I do (I live there) it WILL be abused. They could just actually make all theft over $100 a felony, but that would be hard to get passed, so instead they do this. Typical California politician logic.
I can tell you've never worked retail or known someone in loss prevention. This is already happening in states like Texas, which has a HIGHER felony level threshold of $2500 compared to California's $950. Places like Target will let you steal until you reach a certain threshold, then one day you'll walk back into target to steal and get hit with your felony.
You have some valid points there, but we can't have a society that facilitates outright theft. Perhaps they'll have to lower it to $100 per incident. There have been people stuffing steaks down their pants and walking out. That kind of lower level theft will continue. Is that acceptable? Will facial recognition and walls of shame work where their pictures are posted? Facial recognition doesn't work with darker black people, for instance. They shouldn't allow anyone in with a face mask or hoodie up. Those would be enabling features.
Love your guys but this time, You guys need to do your homework, please. Our infamous VP K Harris made a law that if anyone lifts item $ for $950, no criminal However, we the people just passed the law in Nov any shoplifting is a criminal act
I got felonies for stealing over 250 in Las Vegas. 18 years ago. Yes I was young and dumb. But can’t believe that it’s now 1200. That is absolutely insane. It should go back to 250!
Give the California citizens credit for Prop 36. Newsom and Harris were opposed to it.
Took forever, I hope these California learned from too many mistakes for voting leftist liberals rhinos communists regime
Just moved to TX from Oakland,CA, and before I left I voted for Prop 36.We're so tired of the lawlessness, theft, and normalized criminal behavior its unreal.
All the black people in California were opposed to it as well.
They still voted for Harris. I don't think they've learned anything.
@@JmacDaloc i'm black and I voted for it to pass. Newsom wants to act like these folks shouldn't be held account because many - not all - are black and brown.Ridiculousness!
If you lost $24 billion and you're the governor
,is that a felony?
Should be. Cali has the worst people in the country
Bush JR send around a Billion in cash to Iraq and that money disappeared...shouldn't Bush Jr be in jail for stealing?
Pocketed, not lost
GAVI N JUST BOUGHT HIMSELF A SEVERAL MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE.
Nooo that mean you are smart! Remember if you steal 100 bucks you are thief if you steal or cheat country for million's you are smart successful man! Look what doing people in government senator's and everybody else all have some schemes to get money huge money,but nobody never go in jail, bank's ruined world almost and wall street and in the end only one man go to jail some low fruit who buy house to his mother I think and all other CEOS get billions for make that happen!
Does this mean Newsom is now a felon for ripping of the California taxers? 😂 I think so!
Most Democrats are crooked specially in California
Gavin Newsom and his aunt Nancy Pelosi both should be charged as felons because they chose to pass these laws to steal from their law-abiding citizens.
How much taxpayer money went to Trump companies alone? Close to 1 billion $ to just 1 person!
@ but we know about his income as a corporation. You don't think they'd be on him like stink on shit if he didn't do things legally? They had to trump up charges. He can nake money. He's in business. He was president for four years. He's got a barn full of great kids that can do everything and they are entitled to make as much as they can and get paid. Why don't you ask Paul pelosi how he knew to buy the railway property before the speed rail started and then sold it to the state at huge profits. Don't stay in a bubble. There are not even tracks down. Disgusting humans
Newsom is horrible
Living in California as a foreigner, we were shocked at how people can walk out with stolen goods and not get stopped. In Fiji, the security or shopkeeper can tackle you and you will go to jail. Repeating offences can get you into prison.
Lol banana republic. Hopefully things will be better now under Trump. Would love to visit Fiji one day. Your 7s rugby team is great and i love your Christian values.
It used to be like that until Obama came in and put his peeps into the perpetual victim class, in which they’re immune to civil society’s laws
They are wokes, California, that's why
In India, the shopkeeper can beat you to death.
Part of it is that insurance companies saw that injured employees are expensive due to medical expenses and potential lawsuits so they made rules that say employees can't fight or argue with thieves, their only choice is to call the police. If they disobey, they could get fired. Most insurance does not cover minor theft so the insurance company does not care if that happens. But over time that has caused thieves to become more and more bold since they rarely are challenged. Then California made laws that meant people did not get prison for minor crimes and also the police forces have gotten very understaffed so they don't want to waste time on paperwork to arrest a thief if the thief won't even get jail time, so they may take an hour or two to show up for calls about theft, it's not something they want to deal with. Over time, employees stop bothering to call the police since it's useless. However Orange County is more republican so they perhaps are still trying harder. I wonder if the Orange County police released this to try to deter other shoplifters that they WILL be enforcing the new law.
The store that priced everything at $951 except for those paying is brilliant!
I always wondered if someone was rolling out the store with just under $950 of merchandise, and someone were to add a package to the cart tipping them over the limit, just how that would play out in court. ;-) "But you're honor, I didn't steal that!" "Oh, and you're admitting to have stolen everything else?"
It wouldn't stand up in court. It's silly.
@@whodidit99it would stand in court
@diddy2612 the store would probably get fined for price gouging by the fed.
@@rjbernard72 🤦🏾♂️they wouldn’t
I witnessed a cashier at Walgreens get robbed. That criminal just walked in jumped over the counter and took out a few hundred dollars from the register then walked out. The cashier was in complete shocked and was told to continue to work. I was so mad when I saw. These people are not poor and stealing. Don't be stupid! They stealing and making money. It's a business.
100%
It’s important to note that Newsom was upset that we voted to pass that law. Just remember that when he runs for president.
California went to shit because of him.
Yeah easy for him, he lives in his ivory tower with gates and security and isn't plagued by catalytic converter theft, broken windows, homeless sleeping and pooping in his yard, and suddenly being attacked by crazy people on the street, many of whom having been constant catch and release criminals but we can't put them in jail because that would be racist or something, it's all gone insane. The 90s era dems were generally reasonable but that's all gone out the window now. Try to complain and they'll now tell you these poor sad girls probably just needed food for their starving babies or something, as if California didn't already have food programs for the poor and free food kitchens. But their brainwashing runs deep it seems so logic does not work.
Never going to happen 🎉
Can he run for governor again? If he can, it’s time you voted him out!
@@KGM95 thankfully he Cannot run for governor again and I plan to vote for the exact opposite of him when I get the chance. Unfortunately I believe he will run for president, so hopefully Americans can see him for the snake he is and votes against him.
I’m from CA, and crime reporting is “down” because businesses stopped filing claims due to cost of insurances going up as a result of the theft/claim. Some insurance carriers were canceling policies as well. So businesses stopped reporting the theft and ate the cost as it was cheaper than losing insurance.
The problem always goes back to the greed of insurance
Good to know thanx. I've spoken to employees in my area of San Diego and many told me they also stopped calling because the cops take 1 or 2 hours to show and then don't do anything and act like you are bothering them. Even if you have good quality video of the incident, they don't want to see it. So there's no point to calling and they quite trying.
i hope you are still in CA. Vote blue no matter who.
I live in the Bay Area, everyone here with a brain voted for prop 36!
Bingo Bay Area 😊
The smart people like Musk are leaving, california is a shithole in my opinion!
We need to start imposing the CA 3 strikes your out law enacted in 1994.
I voted yes on it too
Let’s see if Newsom follows the voters wishes. I doubt it.
How is crime legal in California
What is happening in that place
For the past 5 years it is absolutely chaotic 🤦
Crime has never been legal in California lol. People were still getting arrested for stealing candy bars prior to this law change. Don’t believe the news
It seems like it started with Covid. They seen the looting went unpunished . Also I'm july 2023 , it became unlawful for employees to approach shoplifters. Also mask wearing is not suspicious anymore .
Vermont has the same thing. But add open air drug marrket.
Check the policy makers; George Soros is tied to the money trail.
its crazy, ive lived in Cali 3 times now & will not move back.
Because Women don’t want to punish anybody that’s why the father figures so important. And these states are controlled by women. It’s all feelings and emotions.
What did California and its DAs think would happen when they made shoplifting any amount less that $1000.00 not even a punishable offense???? All it did was create an incentive that encouraged more shoplifting
The point was to make the public desperate enough to consent to a much more draconian police state rather than simply having police arrest criminals. Discouraging police from doing their jobs with high profile show trials against cops for people ODing in custody/taking down criminals who were actively charging civilians with weapons was another part of this, as were the DAs and prosecutors who let criminals out mere hours after violent crimes. Criminalizing self defense was an important aspect for demoralization.
It's a pretty open plan, a whole bunch of NGOs laid it out in publically available papers, then funded the politicians who got it done. Technically this makes them unregistered foreign agents, but "unregistered foreign agents" kinda run the regime so we're unlikely to see that go anywhere unless the people unite.
@@austinkuipers6087make people tired and desperate so they just give up their rights willingly. 😢
THey've been told all the current probs are due to 'end stage capitalism' and none of their own choices have anything to do with it.
Live in LA, my car has been broken into 3 times.
My neighbor had a note saying "nothing in the car".
His car was broken into and the robber wrote "just checking".
💀
Omg 🤦🏼♀️
Damn. A thief who likes corresponding with their victims 😅
Surprised they didn't write, sorry didn't see the note! @@yvoncormier9762
Meticulous!
What makes these laws interesting is that anyone who has previously stolen less than $1,000 got away with it, but moving forward, if they get caught stealing again-such as taking $50 worth of merchandise-and they have a record of a previous theft under $1,000 (for example, $920), those incidents can now be combined. As a result, they could face a felony charge if the total exceeds $950.
They all start fresh
I should move to California, can I steal a LV for 951.00 when I get there!
@@ian57061 nope. it doesn’t work that way.
Should be steal anything and it will get you stoned!
@Awake-z5z yes you can, but it's automatic felony 😂
shoplifting even a $1 should be penalized.
What about freeloading by politicians and corporations off the backs of the lower and middle classes?
What does that have to do with the individual responsibility and morality? There is no justification. And it’s not like people are starving in America. We have obese homeless.
@@TTex123 Oh god, please don't be one of those "whaddabout" people. You can say that for pretty much anything, but if we have to preface each damn comment about something else, that would be a waste of time and server storage space.
@OGRustinMac well its called keep the same energy lol. They constantly change laws for us peons. But we're still waiting for the harsh punishments for politicians who loby.
@@TTex123Are you ADD? I mean do you have ADD?
Cause that's a different problem.
Ashamed of nothing offended by everything
I've worked in loss prevention and it's well over 75%
Actual prison terms for this are going to be very offensive 😂
My wife's brother's son (must still make him my nephew) is now in his 40's: Lives in LA. Has been arrested for strong-arm robbery and went to jail a few years ago but also got out some time ago. Lives in his car or with friends, along with his girlfriend. COULD work, but prefers to steal for a living. A meth addict. Has been arrested many times ----- faced years of incarceration when THE trial was about to happen. BUT all his charges have been thrown out by the LA District Attorney. He remains free and on the streets, with no intention to ever change what he is doing.
Who is the criminal? Or should I say, the other criminal in this true story? It is the LA District Attorney. The police can arrest all day long, but when the DA does not care, nothing will change. PS: he and his brother had a clothing business for awhile. Named 'Robinsteal'. It did not last long because they actually had to work....
Pat is so spot on about the relationship between mom & daughters. I can't counthe number of times I got in trouble for getting into my mom's make-up. It was one of the most serious offenses in our house! Seriously 😂
Al Sharpton: "$951 pricing strategy is the new Jim Crow"
Go Jim go!
lol for a second I legit believed he said this. He would😂
If i had a son his name would be Jim
Hey Al...just don't steal and you have nothing to worry about.
@@wills242 I don’t blame ya😆
It's racist not to let them steal 😂
Like they say, "crime doesn't pay"
Depends what version of "racist " you use...😢😢😢
It paid great for your new president
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That's pure genuis to price all items before purchase @ $951.
Absolutely!!!
When they are caught, that is the price they are charged for each item if the retail claims that they can't take it back because it is damaged
Wouldn't stand up in court though and the cops/DA would pay no notice to it they would just let the thief go.
That warning is brilliant! 😂😂😂
The thing is they have people thinking it’s okay to steal as long as it’s under. $1000. And they got used to stealing.
Stealing $.01 should be felony and Politicians that protect the criminal and law breaking illegal immigrants should be in jail
But what about the people that are stealing bread to feed their families?!? Do you really want them to be felons.
They shouldn't even be allowed to steal $999 worth of stuff at all. Stealing should be a crime all the way around in California.
Not even a 1$
only over 1000 dollar? just be a felony for whatever you steal, one dollar or hundred dollar, stealing is stealing
No part of our justice system works like that. I'm pretty sure their are grades for every crime.
This society is based on stealing………
Earning a $999 a day is a lucrative job that Newsom and Harris had blessed!
Absolutely right!!!
Shoplifting is larceny. Grand larceny if theft is valued over $3000.
Stealing is stealing, there shouldn’t be a price on it!!!
Maybe Newsone doesn't read the Bible.
A certain group thinks they are entitled to steal.
Yes. But the DA will let them off.
Stop the narrative by making it seem like only Black people are shoplifters. It's a thief problem, not a race problem. And to keep it a stack, I feel no remorse for shoplifters that get caught regardless of gender or race.
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Yeah, there's another group that steal too but they wear suits and ties so it doesn't really count.
inflation is stealing from people. this is just taking it back.
African americans?😂
Stealing is a sin, I don’t believe that I’ve ever thought ever stealing anything. I mean I’ve wanted things that I couldn’t afford, but stealing never crossed my mind.
All the businesses that moved out of those areas should stay out until California proves it can keep businesses safe for a very long time
No.
Parents aren't always any better than their kids....some encourage kids to steal because their penalty is less than the parent penalty.
Something tells me they have a history of this
Complexion?
Well this is the result when California made shoplifting legal for so long. This was the result literally anyone could've foreseen
😢😢😢😢What makes me very angry is that the governor of California says that those who incarcerate us people of color in all its dimensions go to jail faster and that citizens pay at least $1000 to have a person incarcerated. I am a person of color. I have lived in the United States for 34 years. I have always worked and so far, knock on wood, I have not had any problems with justice because I am a poor person but I am always working, but not because I am poor or because I want something that I fancy, I am going to go and take it from a reputable store. No, sir. And that is what the governor says. Many people of color are going to jail. But if people of color are committing crimes, they need to go to jail. It does not offend me because because I am a person who did not come to destroy this country, I am an American citizen and I love the United States and I also respect myself because I am not going to go around begging. I have values. And if people think that because they are going to steal less than 950 dollars they are not going to go to jail, then they will. They screwed up now the amount is less and I hope they don't find a flaw in the law because there are also fraudulent lawyers who let these types of people run wild. Here in San Francisco, there are no longer any open stores. Everything has to be ordered via Amazon or other online stores and I don't like that. I don't like to see what I'm going to buy and everything is very expensive. I hope this changes because the truth is that it makes me very depressed!
Virtue signaling without any virtue behind it has set this country back immeasurably, and will continue to.
I don't care if they steal a candy bar, it should be a felony
True but not if its a 3 musketeers
Will you do a follow up to see if the judges actually prosecute and assign due punishment for these people?
Newsom was complaining about the cost of having to prosecute and incarnate.
Because he’s a fool.
Yet brags about the states gdp at the same time.
Judge Dredd or AI. Ai already going after people not paying their bills. Just turn off their cellphones see how fast that changes.
They only worry about cost to govt when it's a core function govt should and must do. Spending on all matter of frivolous programs is never a concern. Up is down, down is up.
When you don't make criminals do real time, it doesn't make a difference changing a misdemeanor to a felony.
We will see.
It was in Orange County who voted *red/ Trump* in the last election.
It’s always them.
Who else but them . I'm one of them but I really don't like those thems .
Your comments are all over place. Which is it?
Before you have a conniption fit, I am a Black man that is posting this. But please stop the narrative by making it seem like only Black people are shoplifters. Too many on social media are using these two idiot Black women in the video which creates another false narrative about Black people when there are many videos of non-Black people that have been arrested for shoplifting in the pat couple of days and will also hopefully get charged with felonies. This is a behavioral, not a race problem. I feel no remorse for shoplifters that get caught regardless of gender or race. Statistically, men shoplift more than women (there is actual data to prove this). Too many of you are eager to put emphasis on Black people that shoplift but not believe that there is statistical data to back up "shopping while Black" but you sure don't want to put blame on non-Black people that work in stores that verbally and physically harass innocent Black people everyday for simply shopping while Black.
Richard Hollinger, a criminologist at the University of Florida and a researcher of a study states: "Overall, blacks and Hispanics were no more likely than whites to steal merchandise. However, when race and gender were examined by subcategory, Hispanic females stole the most, shoplifting at more than seven times the rate of white females."
"Shoplifters were most commonly between the ages of 35 and 54. These middle-aged adults, most of them gainfully employed, were “primary household shoppers” who occasionally stole to acquire goods whose cost stretched beyond their household budgets."
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@@capes8395 Not one of my comments contradict. What arent you understanding?
@capes8395 all of them always all of them
$0 Minimum on Felony Theft Charges when Two Prior shoplifting= AUtomatic Felony, BUMP
10 years asset protection at Best Buy. Two things. People didn't care. They knew we could not do anything about it. Second, police response. We were lucky to have the police show up 30-40 minutes after calling in. If I had a description of suspects provided by other stores ap, I approached them at the door as they entered and told them straight up I know who they are, why they are there, and the police are on there way. Most times, they would leave. Still, theft is way out of control. Love your videos. Thanks.
Seee some of us Californias aren’t total blue nuts
Stealing anything over $1 should be a Felony. 950$ is still laughable. Thats a lot of merch.
13% responsible for 60+%.
And the people who will ultimately benefit the most for the laws being enforced is the 13% community - they're hurting themselves more than anyone
They need to feed there children
Stop the narrative by making it seem like only Black people are shoplifters. It's a thief problem, not a race problem. And to keep it a stack, I feel no remorse for shoplifters that get caught regardless of gender or race.
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Tell a black person to their face that. Even a black woman. Yall beer muscles are insane online.
But they be soooo Oppressed Rusty !!!???!!
There is a reason why they allowed shoplifting. It's never not deliberate.
They were trying to lower incarceration costs in prisons.
Next, investigate all PPP loans. Mostly fraud and directly contributed to our inflation issue.
The IRS are going after PPP fraud, lots of news reports about them getting busted
It's not their color, it’s the content of their character.
You literally commented 13% one minute before this comment lmao don't make excuses for monkey behavior.
color is a good indicator of character. Better safe than sorry.
@@musicians_with_gunts In the words of the wise old sage Scott Adams, "Just stay tf-away."
Send them all back to jail where they came from!
There seems to be an overwhelming correlation, unfortunately
How could they be so stupid as to have such laws in the first place? It was sickening to see people steal and just be able to walk out like it was nothing. That goes against the grain, it's all wrong, like being in the Twilight Zone or something.
In most states, a first-time petty theft conviction is considered a misdemeanor. California happens to be among only about 10 states who may convict someone with a felony for multiple offenses under $1,000
I can't believe such nice well spoken polite young ladies would steal, shocked to my core I am.
Newsom should go back to selling used cars a perfect job for him and back to bartending for AOC
PBD said Adam hurry tf up and Adam said BUT I GOT A MONOLOGUE lmfao
I Love this show!
Thank you for this exposure!
show for dumb people
Here’s another “WHY?” Why do those security employees believe a thief & a liar when they say, “you can’t touch me”?!
Let’s not forget that Newson was against prop 36!
IN INDIANA -- depending on the prosecutor AND IF THE STORE WANTS TO PRESS CHARGES ***SHOP LIFTING IS THEFT *** In Indiana ***THEFT IS A FELONY*** so since 1990 when I got on the police force in INDIANA You were charged with THEFT ***A FELONY*** if you were caught for shop lifting.
It’s almost unbelievable that this discussion is even happening.
The problem isn't single-parent households, it's the single mom industrial complex. We give away too much free stuff and people think they're entitled to everything. Get rid of all the free stuff we'll stop creating horrible parents that only have kids so they can get paid.
They're trying to force abusive violent men on women and children.
Use to be: first shoplifting was misdemeanor, second was petty with a prior, a felony.
Grand theft if over a certain amount, a felony.
That updated shoplifter sign is Legendary! pricing everything that way and discounting at the counter is genius, just horrible stores even need to use their critical thinking skills for something like this.
Shoplifting can be charged as a felony in California if there are any prior theft-related convictions. They are known as wobblers, which means they can be charged as either a felony or misdemeanor. Petty-theft with a prior can even be the last of a three-strikes case, if there are two convictions for any serious and/or violent felonies. The third strike can be any felony, not just serious and/or violent. There are plenty of people in California in prison for life due to a conviction for petty-theft.
it should be a felony to steal something $100 or more.
1 penny worth and more is stealing
Brilliant! So glad people are standing up!
You can't give credit for fixing something they broke. What an incredibly stupid idea.
At the same time you can't blame the victims of the tyranny of the majority who broke it. I'm Californian, I never voted for Newsom, never voted blue. We corrected course from a terrible criminal governor. The work is not done, but it's headed the right way. Or would you rather we stayed the ret@rded course we were on?
Come to think 🤔🤔🤔🤔 about it, I didn't get a felony at 12 for stealing candy from Walgreens. There's something wrong with the politicians and legislators.
I live in Ca, in the San Joaquin Central Valley. Alot of us there are Conservatives, however, the Bay Area and the L.A. area are mostly Dems and they have a choke hold on our State, it's SOOO FRUSTRATING! 😢😢😢
The idea of pricing everything at 951. in California was brought up on Timcast a month ago.
I think it's a stretch to say because they stole more than $1000 by adding it up from multiple stores. I'm pretty sure it is meant to be $1000 from one location. They are 2 different incidents. Any lawyer will be able to point that out.
Yes supposed to be one location, California might have changed that
Think about the intent of the law. If it's to protect communities from crime, then a person stealing over a dollar amount from one business or stealing from three businesses that are next to each other, the intention by charging them with a felony is to prevent mass losses due to crime for businesses in the community.
@@jonathandavis-po6js That's what existed BEFORE Prop 36 as a result of props 47 and 57.
@@jum5238 oh , here it's 700$ and one location
You absolutely can be arrested for shoplifting in CA! It happened to me. The deal is that now the DA can charge it as a misdemeanor or a felony.
Who else wants to see Newsom gone for good, recalled, never seen again, investigated, prosecuted and imprisoned??
The real problem is that they don't think stealing is wrong . They are raised to think that they are owed. Racism is the least of their concerns.
Shout out to Adam for calling out the truth of who’s responsible for this! 18:00
What surprised me is that they knew the law the whole time but surprisingly laws when enforced actually work
Pat and friends - your first offense of shoplifting is NOT a felony, second offenses, third offenses, & subsequent offenses plus the over $1,000 products are BACK to being felonies! They used to be felonies, and then I don't know what happened to make that $950 limit misdemeanors, but something was rolled back and we put it back in place to make it a felony once again!!
It used to affect parolees the most, because parolees have already committed felonies usually. So if they steal something, it was an automatic felony - because it's a violation AND a new charge & they're already on parole.
So, I think it was to give leniency to people, but it was a WAY too much. Leniency should be anything over $50, maybe $100, NOT $1,000.
Who's stealing things worth $1,000? I mean you have to go into a super designer store to find anything worth that much. You'd have to be carrying like 40 things out of Target, unless you go to the electronics department or the jewelry department. Even then 10 or 15 things to get $1,000 worth of stuff.
I am SO GLAD that WE VOTED this back into place! As I was growing up, this WAS in place - and yes if you get caught shoplifting, a second time, you get a felony - and if you steal habitually, you went to prison! I think people thought that was not cool. But they don't learn their lessons, probably happened about the same time as Biden or Gavin came into play, but I am SO GLAD it's back in place. SO glad! Thanks for covering it. Love your show, Pat!
Overpricing items and then giving non-criminals a discount at the register? Genius!😂😂😂
It could have been put in place a long time ago but they enabled it for soo long!
Thank you for this video...... I live in Northern California and this makes me feel good. Thank you God!!!!
181,000 homeless now in California.
I'm among them but I don't steal. There is no lack of charity and resources if all you are trying to do is survive and maintain integrity.
I know a female shop lifter, that got caught the other day, than broke away first on foot, than got chased by the police in the car, got away again, than ditched the car in an apartment complex, and got away a 3rd time on foot, and this all happened back to back in about a 20 minute period, and then she went back an to the car an hour later, retrieved the car and got away again. With the car. Crazy, i wouldn't have thought that was possible in this day and time. But it happened about a week ago.
The car was a rental btw.
Yrs ago, it was $250 + was a felony... !!
Robbing people is CA is not a crime, the Governor even does it.
The hood doesn’t keep up with new laws.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The DA's have recordings from prison phones where people inside are coaching people outside. The one DA I listened to said the prisoners told people on the outside DO NOT STEAL IN EL DORADO COUNTY! THEY WILL PROSECUTE YOU! And the one phone call was funny because the thief was complaining about stealing over the (county) line.
It’s called “Reform California” headed by Carl Demaio…!! Who is now our CA State Representative!! Thank you Carl Demaio…!!🥰
It should not matter the cost of what you stole,as long as you steal/take what is not your's, you should go to prison automatic
17:42 who else saw PBD rushing Adam after giving him 50 seconds to move on to the next topic 😂 😂 😂
And in Orange County of all places 😂😂😂
I watched a video California gov Brown, Newsome and Pelosi all related. How does this happen? Allegedly 😮
Prop 36 at work
$500 should be a felony.
Stealing is a crime.
Under $500
Should pay restitution to store and the court plus 30 days in county jail. Three strikes your in prison.
The new law that California is enforcing may in fact end up being unconstitutional. What the law does is that it combines all the thefts an individual may have made over a given period of time and adds up the total value of the items stolen. Prosecutors will consider the total value of all items stolen during a period of time, if the total of all stolen items is $951or more, it is prosecuted as ONE CRIME OF GRAND THEFT. I think you can see the problem here. California is not arresting people after an individual case of shoplifting they are waiting an letting them rob many different places and then, when the total value is high enough, the cops swoop in and arrest charging them with grand theft. You can't treat several different minor crimes as collectively one greater crime. That is like following around a bully who beats up a bunch of people an not arresting him until he has beat up enough people to cause enough damage that if it was done to one person they would have died, so you charge them with murder. I can't image that such a tactic is constitutional. You can see how this law could be abused and knowing California as I do (I live there) it WILL be abused. They could just actually make all theft over $100 a felony, but that would be hard to get passed, so instead they do this. Typical California politician logic.
I can tell you've never worked retail or known someone in loss prevention. This is already happening in states like Texas, which has a HIGHER felony level threshold of $2500 compared to California's $950. Places like Target will let you steal until you reach a certain threshold, then one day you'll walk back into target to steal and get hit with your felony.
You have some valid points there, but we can't have a society that facilitates outright theft. Perhaps they'll have to lower it to $100 per incident. There have been people stuffing steaks down their pants and walking out. That kind of lower level theft will continue. Is that acceptable? Will facial recognition and walls of shame work where their pictures are posted? Facial recognition doesn't work with darker black people, for instance. They shouldn't allow anyone in with a face mask or hoodie up. Those would be enabling features.
It's always been that way... The question is what is the value of the stuff that you're stealing?
Love your guys but this time, You guys need to do your homework, please. Our infamous VP K Harris made a law that if anyone lifts item $ for $950, no criminal
However, we the people just passed the law in Nov any shoplifting is a criminal act
Shoplifting is not a felony. It’s a hobby in California.
"It's Orange County they don't play"
When we were kids stealing was stealing! Even a candy bar!
What in the hell is on the wall behind Vinny?
Dinosaur eggs apparently
Those animals trying to escape the cvs cage was ridiculous!😂
Pre-Prop 47, your 3rd shoplifting was a Felony. Prop 36 fixes that.
What about credit card fraud?
I got felonies for stealing over 250 in Las Vegas. 18 years ago. Yes I was young and dumb. But can’t believe that it’s now 1200. That is absolutely insane. It should go back to 250!
Stealing is a GRAVE SIN