A Christian equipped with: 1. The belt of truth 2. Breastplate of righteousness 3. Greaves and Caligae of readiness from the gospel of peace 4. Shield of faith 5. Helmet of salvation 6. Sword of the Spirit Is unbeatable.
Wes is synonymous with the 5 virgins who brought extra oil (parable of the 10 virgins.) Wes was prepared when God called him to be His witness. Because Wes was ready, imagine how many have now heard the Gospel and the Good News?
Additionally, he removed 'unclean animals' from the list of animals that can be eaten. 1. Mark 7:18-19: "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.) 2. Acts 10:10-15 (Apostle Peter’s vision): "He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, 'Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.' 'Surely not, Lord!' Peter replied. 'I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.' The voice spoke to him a second time, "DO NOT CALL ANYTHING IMPURE THAT GOD HAS MADE CLEAN."
I am a veteran and a Vietnam War veteran, and I wear nothing else on my head, but that says, “I am a Veteran, period.” 12y8m18d active duty U.S. Army. There is nothing that important to me but Christ and Him crucified.
Counting days and you've been out for years tells me something went on, mentally. You got an honorable discharge? I'm willing to bet against that. Always the phonies doing way too much but still too stupid to know their own MOS/regiment/posting/flag officers/XO hell even just secdef at the time. Go for it bro.....
Also, that's a weird time length. Dishonorable discharge if you actually were in? MOS? Postings? Unit? Rank? It's all lies on the internet people. Just like billy Carson.
The truth or lie about Christianity will never be proven in a book. It will be proven in the hearts, minds, and experiences of those who seek to have a personal relationship with the Creator. Bless Billy Carson. Bless Wesley Huff. Bless all of us who strive to understand the universe, life, and our place in it.
The bible is compelling. You cannot deny after any serious scholarship of the fulfilled prophecies that there isn't something serious to consider. There is someone inspiring these writings that is not trapped in linear time. He is YHWH. One of the many many examples for instance is when the prophet Isaiah prophesied an unknown name, Cyrus would rebuild Jersualem 150 years prior to King Cyrus being born. (Isa. 44:28; 45:1)
@@pyuille yhwh/yhvh is the tetragramatron and they are a family collective of 72 eloheim (el shad, el shaddai, adonai, el olam, jehovah raah, Qanna, etc) led by el elyon...baal is step son of elyon and "Lord" of the earth issuing authority to all the the heads of state..u guys really lost with all this romani - papal bs...free the books of kemet under the vatican and where ever else💪 christ stood adamantly, against the pharisee and saggusee (talmudists) in defence of the torah, yet you guys claim to be his followers🤣 paul's pharisee "christians"..yall preffer to be lectured every sunday/satyrday by ppl who are apart of the plot, rather than finding out the truth for your individual selves..christ is knowledge~ignorance is sin, thats y u can be born in sin..go in peace and ask the pertinent questions, always.
The problem is Billy values being perceived as being right over walking in truth. The former is fuelled by pride and arrogance the later requires humility. I’m not sure Billy has any.
Wes is a fraud. He failed to speak out against his govt spending billions to murder innocent Russian and Ukraine soldiers. He has done nothing for the 2 million homeless ! Nothing for the 2 million incarcerated that need GED and job training. When will he do the work of christ.
Do your research, educate yourself, stop following the "trend" its sheep mentality it is, and they convinced you guys it's okay to be a sheep, literally will l Follow for eternity and never lead? Sounds sad
and the problem with you and others is that you're already believers in the Bible and Christianity. That's called being biased. Huff said he's a biblical scholar and a Christian. That doesn't make what Billy said wrong, it just a different view. Don't tell me that Huff is not biased based on his personal belief but then tell me Carson is automatically wrong because then that shows your biased since none of us know as much as both these men
You hit the bullseye 🎯. I sensed Billy relies partly on the ignorance and unpreparedness of the person he’s debating. Unfortunately Billy met his match in Wes. Fortunately God is using Wes as a formidable witness for and defender of Jesus Christ.
I've run into a few guys like Billy over the years spouting similar tales about the Dogon tribe, etc...partly from Black Studies egyptology (Basil Davidson, Asa Hilliard, Ankha Diop), partly from the Mentellect movement, partly mind/science psychology, and with a little Voltaire/Dan Brown theories about the Vatican mixed in. What guys like Billy Carson are counting on is people not having done the research. The "tell" in his encounter with Wes was how quickly he moved away from even trying to defend subjects he realized Wes knew a ton about. The fakes always know when the real is in the room and they quickly exit.
I rather stick to what I can see with my own eyes. I’ve been to a few continents on this planet, I’ve seen massive structures built by ancient man that have no explanation by modern engineers. The thing with text and translations isn’t always accurate, and Wes points out that the apocrypha texts do exist and it was obvious that Billy wasn’t well prepared using surface level material that was easily disprovable.
@@GreyEagle_35 I don’t have any investment in Billy’s endeavors. I’ve listen to some of the man’s opinions on other topics regarding ancient civilizations and ancient knowledge and it isn’t bad, however, he was out of his element against an actual biblical scholar and linguist. Also, there are other people better equipped to talk about ancient civilizations, structures, artifacts and engineering. Some examples, Randall Carlson, Graham Hancock and Christopher Dunn, who is actually a mechanical engineer. These people deal in structures, sculptures, sarcophagi and other artifacts that can’t be explained, duplicated or faked, and are most likely tens of thousands of years old, if not older. You can’t date stone. You can’t carve granite with copper. And you can’t lift seventy to eighty ton stones and place them three hundred feet above ground, which is the case in the great pyramid. Not to mention other works around the globe with stones weighing in at over a thousand tons. Until you can fully explain what our ancient ancestors physically pulled off, why worry about an omnipresent, omnipotent God, who most likely we can’t come close to understanding. God is always. Try to imagine that.
@@mr.saturn7833I agree. There’s plenty we don’t understand and some of the ancient engineering beggars belief and has yet to be explained. Carson on the other hand is not for me. His claims of being an expert in this and that when he clearly has only surface knowledge of what he’s talking about is embarrassing…….. but there are certainly wonders and mysteries from our past that may never be explained. They certainly won’t be explained by Billy.
Why are we having such a problem calling Billy Carson, a scammer and a charlatan? Every podcast I’ve seen featuring Wes Huff dances on the line of doing so but never crosses it -very confusing.
if you think hes a scammer and a charlatan (which he is) thats your opinion to hold, dont know why its confusing for you that Wes is just a good guy and its not a character trait of his to want to publicly trash someone as much as he can, thats what the left does. this is what the cultural revolution on the right looks like and that Wes is a great example of currently: intellectually honest arguments where the best idea wins by its merit without ad hominem attacks with the ability to agree to disagree then still be friendly later, rather than on the left if you dont agree in lockstep with the cult in every way you're gone. haven't been convinced of Christianity but this mindset of intellectual honesty Wes is a good example of is what persuaded me to MAGA, would hate to watch it turn into being the same as the left.
I don't think Wes wants to make an accusation that Billy is being intentionally deceitful. Just that Billy is wrong and pointing out where he is wrong.
Guess its because Billy the BS grifter can afford expensive lawyers. To make Wes's Life a life a misery w frivolous law suits. Despite most of what $#!t dribbles out his mouth being utter lies and mindless garbage. The law honours money & the power money wields. Its never given a flying F-uck about truth. Plus he has an army of mindless morons who think he is a prophet. And might defend their new found delusion with violence. I'm no Christian. But I can respect that Wes has done serious research & study on something he is passionate about. But if that's so. He also should have the testicular fortitude to call that @ss#0le out on his BS. Unless he doesn't really believe that his "god" will defend him if he does. In which case is he really a "believer"? My major gripe with Mr Carson is that he denies the crusifiction of Jesus by Pontius Pilate Which is 100% provable FACT. Not by any christian text. But by Roman writings on the crusifiction of Jesus. Don't get me started on the woo woo BS Mr Carson sells on his website!
Unfortunately it’s because no one gives a shit about them, L.A is Hollywood everybody loves it here movies , music ,food beautiful beaches and property. The world glorifies Hollywood and celebrities that’s just the truth bro when lil grandpa in North Carolina can’t even get the same help only a 700 dollar check it’s all a joke
God/Jesus created man pure before the fall under his new nature under sin. God/Jesus took human form using Mary as his chosen vessel. Jesus is God in the flesh. He was/is spirit and became man - Spirit who then was able to walk physically among us. All people are actually spirits with a body.
He has the knowledge of a basic Orthodox or Catholic theologian, and I am saying with utmost respect to him, but his Calvinism still shows in the way he interpretes the ancient apostolic tradition. So even though I am happy that a prot is doing this apologetics because thats the only way prots will listen. He still has a long way to go in decalvinizing or delutherizing himself.
I knew nothing about the background to this until I saw this guy on Rogan. I am a Christian and while it's important to factually correct false claims there's a smugness here and an element of humiliating the other guy that doesn't sit right. If it was me I'd have reached out to him privately to try and find out what was going on with him. As has been mentioned, he has kids. I don't get the purpose of continuing to hammer this unless it's about ego or a book deal
The point is setting the record straight because Billy has sowed seeds of doubt, causing many to fall away from belief & faith. The scripture about the little ones doubting God is about more than just minor aged children. People who believe in God fall into that category.
The thing is Billy know he is lying and trying to come across as a great wisdom, just to such people in. Billy is very arrogant. And he proved that by his reaction to being caught in lies
I don't think that's the case. Truth has to prevail, revealing God's truth has to prevail. As a disciple of Jesus, he has to defend the truth, as we all do regardless of how it's perceived or how unpopular that makes us..
The flaw in Billy's "sinai bible" argument is that he'd heard it didn't contain the resurrection. In his mind he extended this to the entire crucifixion
@@tbishop4961 If you're gonna use Sinaiticus to challenge the resurrection, why cherry-pick just Mark when Matthew, Luke, and John are sitting right there in the same manuscript with complete resurrection accounts?
That I would like to see. I'd love to hear both their perspectives together. That would be so interesting and knowledgeable. If we could get Paul Wallis and Mauro Biglino with Wes... EPIC!!!
'Arbeit macht frei " or work makes you free The words above the entry to the Auschwitz death camp. "What is truth? " Pontius Pilate. Jesus didn't answer him. So wanted him to be an ignorant patsy to the murder of a "deity" Therefore saying that Jesus loves all mankind is TOTAL BS. Proven by his own alleged words.And 100% CONFIRMED by his lack of them when it mattered. So what is the f-ucking difference between opening statement by you and the words to the entry to of a death camp? Also according to the writings of Paul you are either a slave to "righteousness" or "sin" So where the hell is this "freedom"? Or is it just another cynical malevolent Demiurge con job. And isn't it Satanists that are condemned in the minds of all for alleged human blood sacrifice? Yet this psycho who controls all "reality" demands the blood sacrifice of his own child for "sins" again Paul's writing tell us he set us up to fall into? When being omnipotent. All "god" would have to do is forgive? ZERO sacrifice necessary. Unless what people perceive as "god" is a sicko psychopath who is turned on by human sacrifice and eternal torment. That sounds like a delusional infantile fairy story to anyone with half a brain. So this malevolent evil can blind as many as possible to torture them forever in hell. That's why having read and understood the contradictory malevolence written into the "infallable word of god" I could NEVER believe in the diabolical malevolent EVIL you see as "truth"
I been struggling with pantheism and monotheism for half a decade! I went from Buddism to Christianity. I have followed Aaron Abke for 6 years now and now I'm following Wesley Huff. I've been praying for this debate for a long time cause I struggle and adore aspects of both beliefs.
You ignore all historical documentation and expert analysis. By that logic every historical event that you personally did not witness cannot be proven. It’s all belief.
God dosent want war between different religions people fighting over whose right and whose wrong god wants peace , love, and a heartfelt relationship!! Nobody in this entire world will no the exact truth of anything relating to god untill our time is up and we go home thats when it will all be revealed
False. Every Prophet used by The FATHER knew Truth, hence being chosen. If a man follows His Commandments today, then that man knows Truth. If you follow the sun, sunday worship, and pagan holidays, you DO NOT know Truth.
I love Wes’s house analogy. The problem with Wes’s methodology is that he’s so focused on the blueprint without ever looking up to see that it’s created a completely wonky unstable house that doesn’t function properly and has actually created a lot of flooding and electrical fires - because the blueprint was tampered with and modified by someone who didn’t want to see the house get built properly.
Wes isn't blindly trusting some dusty old documents - he's actually doing the detective work to show how reliable they are. Those "flooding and electrical fires" aren't problems with God's Word, they're what happens when folks try playing spiritual DIY without reading the instructions. If the blueprint was really "tampered with," how do you explain the thousands of matching ancient manuscripts we have? That's a whole lot of tampering to coordinate across continents and centuries, don't ya think?
I’m sure to get flamed for this but …. Claiming to know the truth related to the Bible is a fallacy. You can claim what you believe and that you have faith, but claiming to know the truth is not legit.
@@Gabe-lj9fo Well, this isn't unique to christians. Also, the concept of alien is relative so would need to be adequately defined for rational discussion.
iam not sure but seems like they are all connected to the Greeks since they have the facts if true of all and most seems to be cherry picked from 3 brothers that controlled the world leading to all religions that are misused for power and control now if true but i don't believe a book that cannot provide real evidence that he is the son of the universe even if part alien or not he's still a man being a grifter simple other still trying to keep on that teat
iam not sure but seems like they are all connected to the Greeks since they have the facts if true of all and most seems to be cherry picked from 3 brothers that controlled the world leading to all religions that are misused for power and control now if true but i don't believe a book that cannot provide real evidence that he is the son of the universe even if part alien or not he's still a man being a grifter simple other still trying to keep on that teat
Im not a billy fan but they didn't debate . This guy is on a world tour saying he won a debate when there wasn't one. He admitted it wasnt a debate on jre
@@467076like it was shocking. I was expecting a conversation to be had. Discussions about facts. My mind was blown when Billy admitted he quoted something wrong. How can you base your beliefs on things that were flawed. Arguments that the Bible was written by men is also hilarious. The five Books of Moses is acknowledged to have been written by men. The books of Prophets, same. Etc. So why fixate on the gospel. Of course there are questions but… na wa o
The difference is the people recommending the covid jab would be shut down or persecuted by our government at that time if they did not. Not the same here. So not the same comparison. So take the time to be embarrassed with yourself.
2:09, 5:38 - Funny. That pesky, secular education, eh? Most of the 12 apostles had very little formal, high-education. Yet, they were chosen by God himself to rule in the most holy place, heaven itself, with Christ as priests and co-rulers. So, what does that tell you about what God thinks of man's wisdom? It really has very little value.
8:57 It’s not an argument, it’s a fact . First, the Council of Nicaea (325 CE) and Emperor Constantine’s role cannot be overstated. Constantine's conversion to Christianity was as much a political strategy as a personal conviction. By adopting Christianity, Constantine sought to unify a fractious empire under one state religion. The Council of Nicaea, convened under his authority, was not merely a theological gathering but a state-driven effort to standardize Christian doctrine. The Nicene Creed and the suppression of competing interpretations (e.g., Arianism) marked the beginning of a heavily Romanized version of Christianity. This event highlights that Christianity as we know it was shaped less by divine revelation and more by political necessity. Second, the Bible itself is not a collection of primary sources. The Gospels, for instance, were written decades after the events they purport to describe and are heavily reliant on oral traditions and community memory. They are theological narratives rather than historical accounts. By contrast, the Enuma Elish and Atrahasis, which predate the biblical texts by centuries, are primary sources from Mesopotamian civilizations. These texts provide unfiltered insights into ancient Near Eastern cosmology and flood myths, which directly influenced the later composition of Genesis. The parallels between these older works and biblical narratives challenge the notion of the Bible as an entirely unique or divinely inspired document. Moreover, the creation of Christianity as a tool for Roman authority becomes clearer when we examine its appropriation of older mythologies and traditions. Early Christianity incorporated elements of Greco-Roman religion, mystery cults, and ancient Near Eastern traditions to appeal to a diverse population. For example, the concept of a dying and resurrecting savior aligns with pre-existing motifs found in Osiris, Mithras, and even Tammuz. This syncretism allowed Christianity to gain traction among pagan populations, further proving its adaptability to Roman imperial needs. Lastly, it is essential to emphasize that the Roman Empire effectively "created" Christianity as a state religion, not as a continuation of original teachings but as a homogenized belief system suitable for governing a vast and diverse empire. The suppression of competing gospels (e.g., the Gnostic texts) and alternative Christianities reveals a deliberate effort to control religious narratives. In summary, Wes Huff’s defense of Christianity overlooks critical historical developments and textual evidence. Christianity did not emerge fully formed as a divinely inspired truth; it was a Romanized institution shaped by political and cultural forces. Recognizing this historical reality does not diminish the faith of its adherents but provides a clearer lens through which we can understand its origins.
Due to the fact that people lived close to water sources as water is needed to survive, all ancient civilizations could have experienced deadly flooding without stealing a myth from somebody else. A historical part of us is not erased simply because we are a few generations away. The story of mankind is the taking up of farming. It helped us evolve as a species from migrating with animals for food to masters of our own homes. Tribes in North America were separated by migrating hunter gatherers to stationary farmers upon European arrival. Farming was even there. Nobody can say ancient oral stories are an adopted narrative incorporated into a new set of ideas because it is all or our history. The basic flute with holes drilled into hollow bones, bamboo, trees with sponge pith, is found all over as are bullroarers. Nobody can claim unique ownership of these creations. Some stuff really belongs to us all as a species. People claiming modern ownership of the ancient before others are absurd. Our ancient history is not stolen but a part of us. I believe you are referring to the Zeitgeist movie, if you research those other stories they are not the same story repeated. Zeitgeist lied and made bold claims for sensationalism. A kind reminder that a couple of decades is still in your lifetime and not so detached. Many died young in the past before antibiotics and understanding microbiology but many lived to be old, an average is just an average and not everybody. Do you remember your first-grade teacher today or will you remember your former neighbor on your deathbed? No, it's been decades, and your memories must be off because you always lie, don't you? Same personal point of view biases exists at the time of occurrence but trying to erase value because something was recorded decades later is very goal minded and from a motivation. I notice people who rationalize as such diminishing oral stories transcribed later in life are same people claiming every white person guilty for all of slavery when they were never alive at time of legal slavery and all civilizations had slaves. Just remarkable how malleable weak pseudo intellectual minds are eager for hypocrisy for scapegoating to feel better about yourselves or more powerful, or whatever personal gain you receive by being true racists. Truly inferior minds grasping at straws to justify your shallow lives. Never mind written stories down during a persons lifetime, but blame a whole people for stuff outside of their lifetime. It is very interesting the sort of magical thinking some people believe in and solid data they reject for their own personal gain while claiming stuff backwards, claim science on their side when it is not, and claim others are bigots and racists when it is so very clearly their own ideology which is. Christianity is a tie and bond holding people together. The Shroud of Turin creating eye rolling in todays atheists does bring some tangible evidence outside of oral traditions, but really religion is based on faith. There is a cup said to have held Jesus's blood carried down over the years and it matched blood of the shroud. Today's science showed shroud to be 3D imagery. People should research it. I am putting that out there because not doing so is being deceitful. We are not judging a book alone but stuff carried down with it as holy relics. If you want to question the Old Testament, be my guest. Perhaps Jews claiming to be the chosen people by birth alone and linage to go straight to heaven created a members only club which blocked assimilation as Christianity promised salvation to all who heeded it. Christianity was much more welcoming and attractive. Then contrary to atheists, it helped humans create great things as the ability to imagine more than what we live in helps people imagine a better world to live in and assists in its creation. Atheists are most pessimistic and pessimists are best at creating misery and live in a bitter state. If you cannot see beyond yourself, you will always be in misery. I do agree that Christianity was taken as a way to rule over others for dominance and power, like Sharia law and Islam. All religions will create a hierarchy of power. People do that. That is all a matter of human interpretation. We could argue over what books in the bible are authentic and which are todays equivalent climate change propaganda. The Ethiopian bible is likely closest to authentic source to study from as a purely historical reference on its contents. Roman version rejected some books doubting authorship but was also rejecting beliefs they did not support, like Mary as a close disciple of Jesus. If Rome did not take Christianity as a major religion, it may not be around today as it being more about teaching people to see beyond themselves and think of others is what helped one certain group travel the world with its message and turn into successful thriving nations. Those of other religions are still 3rd world, even if they possess small pockets of Christianity, it is corrupted with Magical Saints like in South America. In order to create a better world for all mankind people need to put their petty egos aside and work for the greater good. And that is why our countries are failing today, too many people are those who would have perished without Christian aid and are biting the hands which fed them and demanding the world at their feet over their skin color, sexuality, and mental illness. Todays Pope is at fault because a poor shepherd loses their sheep. To many years protecting kiddy S offenders losing trust of the people lost its cohesion because of that betrayal and churches supporting sexuality as an identity and bending a knee to a selfish narcissistic woke ideology over piety today (as if Pope might gain from kiddy S offenders being decriminalized and using woke itself to try to justify the major corruption of the church in our time.) We are not ones morally appropriate to question the distant past and make judgments with our limited contemporary knowledge of it, we are members of our time and our battles are here.
Your historical timeline needs some fact checking. While Constantine did make Christianity the state religion, he was working with an already well-established faith that had spread across multiple continents. And, if Christianity was just a Roman political tool, why did it flourish most in areas OUTSIDE Roman control? The Ethiopian and Persian churches were doing just fine without Rome's help. And those Gnostic texts you mentioned showed up centuries after the original gospels were already widely circulated. As for those ancient Near Eastern parallels sure, there are flood stories in multiple cultures. The historical details of Jesus's resurrection are completely different from myths about Osiris or Mithras. The early Christians were Jewish monotheists who rejected pagan mythology. Maybe dig a bit deeper into the actual historical evidence there's way more to this story than just "Rome did it".
Billy just regurgitates info he has heard or watched - not truly researches... his arrogance is unbelievable. Imagine if he said these claims about other faiths? He is a DEI "talking head", like Neil DGT
This is actually a really poor attempted ‘debunking’ of billy carson’s theories. Not aaying i think Billy is spot on, but simply saying “people who rise from the dead have more authority than those who do not” is absolute bullshit. You are just pointing toward another point that cant be proven/disproven. The literal exact thing you are complaining about. Lmao
Not a fan of Wes. Seems fake. As someone who has watched a Billy Carson video. He never states anything he says is true or the word. He just puts out an alternative way of thinking about what happened in the past. No one knows truly about our past. It’s all up to each individual to come up with their version of the truth and what you want to follow. Being a Christian is no worse or better than being a Muslim. Just appreciate everyone’s theory and use it to mold your belief.
Cringe take. Their must be an objective truth that we must all strive to find . And for me and many others that is Jesus Christ. If Billy disagrees he must come with a compelling argument guided with facts. If he can't produce that he's misleading people and can potentially send them to an eternal death in hell. It's that simple is Jesus who he says he is? Or is he a phony. And I and my family believe he is exactly who he claims himself to be.
Honestly I think you spend too much time on further humiliating Billy instead of getting some other question for Wes. Even Wes said he’s not into the psychology of why Billy does what he does but more what he does and who he is. Love your content. Just some feed back
A Christian is a follower of Christ. If Christ was a follower of himself than he would have no authority. John 7:18 "He who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory, but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is a man of truth; in Him there is no falsehood." Christ was a follower of His Father who sent Him and commanded us to be a follower of the Son. Psalm 2:12 "Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, And you perish in the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him."
@@TheAll-b9p Jesus never claimed to reach enlightenment - He claimed to be God incarnate from the beginning. Its like comparing apples and, well, the one who created apples. Buddha taught a path to escape suffering, while Jesus came to take our suffering upon Himself. Buddha pointed to a way, Jesus said "I am the way." You might say Buddha was trying to climb the mountain to reach enlightenment, while Jesus came down from heaven to meet us in our valley. Pretty big difference there. And about that crucifixion - it wasnt just an unfortunate misunderstanding, it was actually His plan all along. The cross wasnt a failure of His mission, it was the completion of it. Kinda changes the whole narrative doesnt it
Jesus came from heaven? Yes. Is heaven above earth? Yes. Heaven is not earth. Jesus is an extraterrestrial. By definition. There isn’t anything nefarious about that statement. If you believe in the Bible then it’s a statement of fact. It doesn’t mean he’s green with big eyes. Just not of earth. The Bible tells us that much.
@ Extraterrestrial means something that originates outside of Earth or its atmosphere. If you originate in heaven, and heaven is not on earth, you would be an extraterrestrial as we under that definition.
Wes should challenge these podcasters with large platforms on why they gave Billy Carson a platform in the first place. The bigger issue lies in chasing guests simply because they’ve appeared on other popular podcasts. By doing so, podcasters contribute to spreading false Christian claims and misinformation, making them equally accountable. Billy Carson is just the current scapegoat-his actions and inaccuracies have been exposed for some time. It’s commendable that Wes had the stones to speak out publicly on this matter.
Modern Christianity was created by the the man/entity that no one recognized on the 3rd day resurrection after his big argument with Michael. He even changed his form afterwards to deceive: Mark 16 12 After that *he appeared in another form* unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.
@ no one should listen to these people anymore until they can have a real truthful conversation. Let’s start it out with what is the difference between the Earth and the world. Now let’s go from there then we can move onto what is the difference between Jesus and John
Humans are souls in human body “suits”. There are a multitude of strange supernatural things that happen. One of these is astral projection. Christians are not supposed to do it because it an action of the occult. God warns against doing things of the occult (Deuteronomy 18:10-14). Witches and warlocks do it all the time. They travel around as a soul leaving their body. They spy, interact with other astral projectors, interact with demonic spirits and cast spells on people this way. For instance, a witch and warlock may leave their body in their living room and travel around in the spirit realm. They will illegally access the spirit realm. We need not fear them however since we can plead the blood of Jesus to keep us safe. Paul says the following: 2 Corinthians 12:1-4 1 I must go on boasting. Although there is nothing to be gained, I will go on to visions and revelations from the Lord. 2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3 And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4 was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. Paul is saying he is not sure if he was caught up to the third heaven in his body or out of his body. He’s not sure if it was in the body or apart from the body. This means that he is not sure if he was caught up to heaven by being taken out of his body and travelling there as a soul or if he travelled there in his body. The bible says even more concerning the body and the soul. Matthew 10:28 28 And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. As the bible is saying, we should not fear human beings who can only kill our body but fear the Lord who can kill the body and the soul. A human being is a soul which is in a fleshy body. This is why at the Resurrection of the dead, the dead in Christ shall rise and get a glorified body. Those whose bodies had decayed or been burnt in fire all the way to being ash will get a new perfect body for the soul will be in this new body. And those who are still alive will get their imperfect human bodies transformed into a glorified form. Jesus Christ is God who came into a human body. This is why Jesus is fully God and fully man because by definition he is. He is fully man since he is in a human body which operates by the bodies human mechanisms. Yet he is fully God since he still has his divine nature. This is why even though his body was human and he felt all the senses of the body even the pain of the cross. Yet he was able to do miracles whilst doing his earthly ministry for his divine nature was still intact. We humans are souls in a body. Jesus is God in a human body thus he is fully human and fully God. Am I not human because I am a soul in a body? I am human for by definition that’s what a human is. Jesus is defined as a human and God. Praise the Lord for his infinite wisdom, seeing it fit to become a man to save mankind from itself. Glory to the lamb of God who was slain to take away the sins of the world. Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God Almighty, found it fit to save our wretched souls from sin. Thank you Jesus🙏🏾.
No Time Traveler, for everything is coming to pass and we are nearing the end of the age. Neither an Alien, at least not in sci-fi terms. For Heaven is his throne, and the Earth his footstool. You have to read scripture to fully understanding what has happened, is happening and what’s coming.
To the host: You do t need to be traumatized as a child to become a person who don’t agree with popular ideas and theories that provided to you by others. It’s just you need to have an extraordinary interest in learning and questioning things that other people don’t bother to ask . They just eat what they ve been provided. Only sharp minds will dig and explore
This guy isn’t a real Bible scholar he’s an apologist. Get a CRITICAL scholar on with him and let’s see how he really fare. I promise you this dude got famous off making a mistake just like Billy.
@@AYes-m3r you’re confusing competence with confidence. Actual Bible scholars have already corrected his ass a bunch of times. To his credit Wes is in those chats accepting the mistakes and vowing to correct them in a video soon.
@@blinks6736 if you really want a list BART ehrman Dan McClellan Kipp Davis Ammon hillman Just 4 Ammon will give the most entertaining and Bart the most informative
Here's the problem. Half the story is missing. The half of the story being addressed is the latter half that covers about to 2K years. The beginning of the story which is much longer isn't even addressed in earnest. I didn't hear Abraham or Moses once. Jesus was a Jew not a christian a Jew with a familial history back in the old testament. You can't separate Jesus from the old testament or the god of the old testament because his bloodline originates there.
That was an excellent and successful debate, Wesley Huff! Well done, bro. Out of curiosity, how would you go about investigating the sources of evidence for the existence of aliens?
So Wes says that no one can prove or disprove that Jesus was an alien. So then if Billy wants to believe he’s an alien he can. Just like he wants to believe whatever it is about Jesus Wes can as well.
Billy taking the time to research the things Wes used to correct him and humbly admitting he could be wrong would go a long way in redeeming his reputation
The man that was born of a virgin, did the miraculous in his lifetime, died and came back to life was just as human as Jose down the street. How about This guy and Billy meet somewhere in the middle.
@Actual_Human_Take Romans 1:3 People go around and around over this, probably because the Catechism directly contradicts the above verse. I suspect the influx of pagans into the early church brought with it the pagan fetish with adulterous "gods" - so naturally they felt the need to make themselves at home and blaspheme (intentionally or otherwise) the actual God... hence the misunderstanding about what "Son of God actually means." John 3:6 [Greek word for "gives birth to" and "begets" are the same] John 4:24
@@SuperNintendoChalmers1 you know it’s really weird to defend someone for being wrong by mocking the ones who were right. It makes you almost look as silly as Billy did in the debate.
just a matter of time...long as he upset their money and look like they are the authority over blak history.... white imagges of christianty for the last 500 years ...but billy is a problem.
I think it's more important that history has always been written by those in power and at the same time destroyed history they didn't like, and the church has always been on the side of those in power. I think that's the biggest argument against Wess.
Only Catholics believe everything the Roman Catholic Church says. A bunch of us Christians recognize the history of Rome and the politics running up to it suddenly adopting Christianity. This adoption done by an Emperor who would double as Pope that didn’t even believe Jesus and his words. So how can you build on a poor foundation. These people then go on to choose the books that make up the other parts of the Bible and leave others out. However, we recognize the message of Jesus is the truth that we never dispute. We believe in His works, and we are saved through his ultimate sacrifice. We also believe that we have Jesus as our guide.
Every side wrote their histories, and not all get destroyed, the victor invariably controls the narrative, but only for a time. What I've learned in my studies of history is that reading a nation's history books over the ebbs and flows of their national identity we can sift out specific bias or agendas over time to get a fairly good idea of what probably most likely happened, especially when we run that through the changes in how that specific place's history gets taught over time in the books from a different country. I.e., American history books published in America in 1930, 40, 50 and what American history is in UK history books from the same decades with what is said about America in Japanese history from those decades as well, you will come away with a fairly good idea that none of that will fix our car for us.. That argument against the Bible only works on a surface level
It doesn't matter whether your huff or Billy its interpretation of words lost in time is debated by intellectuals. In the end, it does not prove a single thing Only ppls desperation and blindness to believe
Why does it matter if Jesus was an alien or not? The truth is that we'll never know in this physical life. The faith is created from the uncertainty. Set your ego down and try to understand that true path to God is created within one's heart regardless of what you believe in!
Only through Jesus can you have a true relationship with God...your heart will only lead you to sin and distance from God....also....to a Christian....it matters greatly....one is a fraud....the other is truth....
@filbertovandette and that is also spoken from your ego that you think you're right and everyone else is wrong. I myself is not saying that you are right or wrong bc simply we won't ever know for sure and that is the whole point. You believe what you believe in and respect what others believe in.
@@fractal1133 Billy was the whole time though to be fair. lol Billy isnt correct. im sorry. i know you want him to be. i was raised in that world.. you need to find Jesus, the real Jesus. You are more interested in entertainment than truth though. Ghost and aliens are fun and exciting and you dont have to feel bad for communicating with demons, but that is what you would be doing.
@@nothanksplease Billy was what the whole time? BTW, I don't 'want' billy to be right. I have no idea if he or this guy is right or wrong, and neither do you. (Aside from the bible he referenced that is most likely a fake). Stop telling people what to believe.
This 33 years of dude comes off like he knows everything he might have read a lot of scriptures, but he does not have the life experience in a month of years behind him that he can do all this research. Basically, he just comes out very confident and he can wrap people around his finger
@ the second video he made after getting famous off Billy was titled “ I probably WONT debate you” lmao Basically saying yeah I’m in no rush to get exposed
I watched a literal nobody....a dude with 10k subs.... annihilate every point Alex tried to use....Alex isn't a biblical scholar.... he's essentially the religious version of Destiny....oddly ....Alex can akso be a girl's name....
U summed it up so well. it's weird to me I'm Irish and we don't have this bible bashers. It's a 2000 year old book we have no idea who wrote what bits. Loafs and fishes maybe he had 5 Whales
@Irishmacwoof mate I struggle with it. I just don't understand faith at all!! I really do try to understand but for me it's as if 90% of the planet believes Santa clause really exists.. its just insanity lol
@Ryan-eu3kp Christianity is one sentence "do on others as you would like them to do on you". Or in 3 words treat people fair. If the world did just that it would be much a better place
A Christian equipped with:
1. The belt of truth
2. Breastplate of righteousness
3. Greaves and Caligae of readiness from the gospel of peace
4. Shield of faith
5. Helmet of salvation
6. Sword of the Spirit
Is unbeatable.
Wes is synonymous with the 5 virgins who brought extra oil (parable of the 10 virgins.) Wes was prepared when God called him to be His witness. Because Wes was ready, imagine how many have now heard the Gospel and the Good News?
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Yes please disprove these claims of fake Billy type ancient alien nonsense...
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If Jesus was a vegetarian lol. Why did he multiply fish and bread for his people instead of salad.
Soy fish
Because his people weren't vegetarian BIGGUY
Additionally, he removed 'unclean animals' from the list of animals that can be eaten.
1. Mark 7:18-19:
"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
2. Acts 10:10-15 (Apostle Peter’s vision):
"He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, 'Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.' 'Surely not, Lord!' Peter replied. 'I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.' The voice spoke to him a second time, "DO NOT CALL ANYTHING IMPURE THAT GOD HAS MADE CLEAN."
Then bacon was born.
Who says any of this is true
I am a veteran and a Vietnam War veteran, and I wear nothing else on my head, but that says, “I am a Veteran, period.” 12y8m18d active duty U.S. Army. There is nothing that important to me but Christ and Him crucified.
Amen. And Thank You 🙏🏼 For your sacrifice & service!
You don't know what you are. How in the hell are you going to understand the rest.. LOL
Counting days and you've been out for years tells me something went on, mentally. You got an honorable discharge? I'm willing to bet against that. Always the phonies doing way too much but still too stupid to know their own MOS/regiment/posting/flag officers/XO hell even just secdef at the time. Go for it bro.....
Nah. Nah. Don't believe this dude. He's doing way too much. Stolen valor much? Got a uniform and all that? Get your vet discount at Starbucks?
Also, that's a weird time length. Dishonorable discharge if you actually were in? MOS? Postings? Unit? Rank? It's all lies on the internet people. Just like billy Carson.
John 1:10
“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”
and then Dr. Hillman showed everyone the truth
Aliens. Got it
maybe the world did not need him
Oh, ok, I get it now, it is in your book so it is true... thanks. Explain what this 'passage' means exactly
@@randombutrelevanthe came into the world he created and was rejected by the very creation he created. Pretty straightforward.
The truth or lie about Christianity will never be proven in a book. It will be proven in the hearts, minds, and experiences of those who seek to have a personal relationship with the Creator. Bless Billy Carson. Bless Wesley Huff. Bless all of us who strive to understand the universe, life, and our place in it.
What a powerful statement.
The bible is compelling. You cannot deny after any serious scholarship of the fulfilled prophecies that there isn't something serious to consider. There is someone inspiring these writings that is not trapped in linear time. He is YHWH. One of the many many examples for instance is when the prophet Isaiah prophesied an unknown name, Cyrus would rebuild Jersualem 150 years prior to King Cyrus being born.
(Isa. 44:28; 45:1)
Best take in the comments section 👌
@@pyuille yhwh/yhvh is the tetragramatron and they are a family collective of 72 eloheim (el shad, el shaddai, adonai, el olam, jehovah raah, Qanna, etc) led by el elyon...baal is step son of elyon and "Lord" of the earth issuing authority to all the the heads of state..u guys really lost with all this romani - papal bs...free the books of kemet under the vatican and where ever else💪 christ stood adamantly, against the pharisee and saggusee (talmudists) in defence of the torah, yet you guys claim to be his followers🤣 paul's pharisee "christians"..yall preffer to be lectured every sunday/satyrday by ppl who are apart of the plot, rather than finding out the truth for your individual selves..christ is knowledge~ignorance is sin, thats y u can be born in sin..go in peace and ask the pertinent questions, always.
wrong. Dr. Hillman has the truth and evidence. pbd needs to have him on and stop this theology brain rot.
The problem is Billy values being perceived as being right over walking in truth. The former is fuelled by pride and arrogance the later requires humility. I’m not sure Billy has any.
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Wes is a fraud. He failed to speak out against his govt spending billions to murder innocent Russian and Ukraine soldiers. He has done nothing for the 2 million homeless ! Nothing for the 2 million incarcerated that need GED and job training. When will he do the work of christ.
Do your research, educate yourself, stop following the "trend" its sheep mentality it is, and they convinced you guys it's okay to be a sheep, literally will l
Follow for eternity and never lead? Sounds sad
and the problem with you and others is that you're already believers in the Bible and Christianity. That's called being biased. Huff said he's a biblical scholar and a Christian. That doesn't make what Billy said wrong, it just a different view. Don't tell me that Huff is not biased based on his personal belief but then tell me Carson is automatically wrong because then that shows your biased since none of us know as much as both these men
You hit the bullseye 🎯. I sensed Billy relies partly on the ignorance and unpreparedness of the person he’s debating. Unfortunately Billy met his match in Wes. Fortunately God is using Wes as a formidable witness for and defender of Jesus Christ.
Thank you Billy Carlson for showing me who Wes Huff is!
And what did he show you that he was?
@@gerald8407someone who is showing that the Bible is historically accurate, not a made up fairytale like a lot of people ignorantly claim 💪🏽
Ask Wes what does he think about the Russian icons
@@bertomeza2902 amen to that
@@bertomeza2902 Historically accurate /=/ truth and it actually happened.
“I am not of this world”
- Jesus
What's up Billy
👍 Nibiru genetics.
Interesting that people who believe in heaven think aliens are far fetched. 😅😅
@@Shei-veiand what does alien means? Please don’t say little green man lol
@@Shei-vei Is heaven of this world? Lets use deductive logic, is God human? if not then what does that mean?
Something was always off with Billy, I couldn’t put my finger on it because he spoke in circles so quickly. Thank you for introducing me to Wes Huff.
Wes Huff is worse than Billy. Don't fall for apologists either.
Hes not an apologist, hes a linguist. He studies the word.
He was just a grifter. Making tons of money repeating stuff he read on youtube. I don't hate him for it, there's plenty of people who do it.
@@Enscriptiv how is he worse
People were filled by Billy lmfaoooooo
I've run into a few guys like Billy over the years spouting similar tales about the Dogon tribe, etc...partly from Black Studies egyptology (Basil Davidson, Asa Hilliard, Ankha Diop), partly from the Mentellect movement, partly mind/science psychology, and with a little Voltaire/Dan Brown theories about the Vatican mixed in. What guys like Billy Carson are counting on is people not having done the research. The "tell" in his encounter with Wes was how quickly he moved away from even trying to defend subjects he realized Wes knew a ton about. The fakes always know when the real is in the room and they quickly exit.
I rather stick to what I can see with my own eyes. I’ve been to a few continents on this planet, I’ve seen massive structures built by ancient man that have no explanation by modern engineers. The thing with text and translations isn’t always accurate, and Wes points out that the apocrypha texts do exist and it was obvious that Billy wasn’t well prepared using surface level material that was easily disprovable.
I make video about the ancient ones your invited to my channel
@@mr.saturn7833 Oh brother, just take the L
@@GreyEagle_35 I don’t have any investment in Billy’s endeavors. I’ve listen to some of the man’s opinions on other topics regarding ancient civilizations and ancient knowledge and it isn’t bad, however, he was out of his element against an actual biblical scholar and linguist. Also, there are other people better equipped to talk about ancient civilizations, structures, artifacts and engineering. Some examples, Randall Carlson, Graham Hancock and Christopher Dunn, who is actually a mechanical engineer. These people deal in structures, sculptures, sarcophagi and other artifacts that can’t be explained, duplicated or faked, and are most likely tens of thousands of years old, if not older. You can’t date stone. You can’t carve granite with copper. And you can’t lift seventy to eighty ton stones and place them three hundred feet above ground, which is the case in the great pyramid. Not to mention other works around the globe with stones weighing in at over a thousand tons. Until you can fully explain what our ancient ancestors physically pulled off, why worry about an omnipresent, omnipotent God, who most likely we can’t come close to understanding. God is always. Try to imagine that.
@@mr.saturn7833I agree. There’s plenty we don’t understand and some of the ancient engineering beggars belief and has yet to be explained. Carson on the other hand is not for me. His claims of being an expert in this and that when he clearly has only surface knowledge of what he’s talking about is embarrassing…….. but there are certainly wonders and mysteries from our past that may never be explained. They certainly won’t be explained by Billy.
Why are we having such a problem calling Billy Carson, a scammer and a charlatan? Every podcast I’ve seen featuring Wes Huff dances on the line of doing so but never crosses it -very confusing.
Because Christians like to dance around things instead of being blunt
if you think hes a scammer and a charlatan (which he is) thats your opinion to hold, dont know why its confusing for you that Wes is just a good guy and its not a character trait of his to want to publicly trash someone as much as he can, thats what the left does. this is what the cultural revolution on the right looks like and that Wes is a great example of currently: intellectually honest arguments where the best idea wins by its merit without ad hominem attacks with the ability to agree to disagree then still be friendly later, rather than on the left if you dont agree in lockstep with the cult in every way you're gone. haven't been convinced of Christianity but this mindset of intellectual honesty Wes is a good example of is what persuaded me to MAGA, would hate to watch it turn into being the same as the left.
I don't think Wes wants to make an accusation that Billy is being intentionally deceitful. Just that Billy is wrong and pointing out where he is wrong.
Christians are taught not to judge others
Guess its because Billy the BS grifter can afford expensive lawyers. To make Wes's Life a life a misery w frivolous law suits. Despite most of what $#!t dribbles out his mouth being utter lies and mindless garbage. The law honours money & the power money wields. Its never given a flying F-uck about truth.
Plus he has an army of mindless morons who think he is a prophet. And might defend their new found delusion with violence. I'm no Christian. But I can respect that Wes has done serious research & study on something he is passionate about. But if that's so. He also should have the testicular fortitude to call that @ss#0le out on his BS. Unless he doesn't really believe that his "god" will defend him if he does. In which case is he really a "believer"?
My major gripe with Mr Carson is that he denies the crusifiction of Jesus by Pontius Pilate Which is 100% provable FACT. Not by any christian text. But by Roman writings on the crusifiction of Jesus. Don't get me started on the woo woo BS Mr Carson sells on his website!
Omg he is going to debate Aaron Abke!? No way!!!!
Are you a child?
Are you a child?
He’s going to surprised when he debates Aaron Abke
Large donations are being made for California. Where are the funds for North Carolina?
Unfortunately it’s because no one gives a shit about them, L.A is Hollywood everybody loves it here movies , music ,food beautiful beaches and property. The world glorifies Hollywood and celebrities that’s just the truth bro when lil grandpa in North Carolina can’t even get the same help only a 700 dollar check it’s all a joke
North carolina is too "urban"
Would be great to see a discussion between Wesley Huff & Paul Wallis (The 5th Kind)
Paul will destroy him.
If Jesus was an alien then there would be no way humanity would be saved, since being human and dying for humanity is an essential part to the whole.
In a way
Did God say.....................
He didn't choose to die the Romans killed him
God/Jesus created man pure before the fall under his new nature under sin. God/Jesus took human form using Mary as his chosen vessel.
Jesus is God in the flesh. He was/is spirit and became man - Spirit who then was able to walk physically among us.
All people are actually spirits with a body.
John 1:10
“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”
Well said Wes! May the Lord protect you as you continue to defend the truth!
The Huff is top tier.
He has the knowledge of a basic Orthodox or Catholic theologian, and I am saying with utmost respect to him,
but his Calvinism still shows in the way he interpretes the ancient apostolic tradition.
So even though I am happy that a prot is doing this apologetics because thats the only way prots will listen.
He still has a long way to go in decalvinizing or delutherizing himself.
Except that he uses Google to verify stuff. 😅😅
Glad people are debunking these things
i know. Dr. Hillman is doing the best work of them all.
Humans definitely were created by something not from this earth!
God
@@Bane5393That's what it says in man's written book- the Bible. No one truly knows the truth. That's why it's called belief.
@@Bane5393 anunaki race
We are a byproduct of a higher intelligence from another planet, so was jesus
@@Bane5393 You are God. God is all that is.
I knew nothing about the background to this until I saw this guy on Rogan. I am a Christian and while it's important to factually correct false claims there's a smugness here and an element of humiliating the other guy that doesn't sit right. If it was me I'd have reached out to him privately to try and find out what was going on with him. As has been mentioned, he has kids. I don't get the purpose of continuing to hammer this unless it's about ego or a book deal
Billy sent him letters from his lawyer before any communication between them happened afterward.
The point is setting the record straight because Billy has sowed seeds of doubt, causing many to fall away from belief & faith. The scripture about the little ones doubting God is about more than just minor aged children. People who believe in God fall into that category.
The thing is Billy know he is lying and trying to come across as a great wisdom, just to such people in. Billy is very arrogant. And he proved that by his reaction to being caught in lies
I don't think that's the case. Truth has to prevail, revealing God's truth has to prevail. As a disciple of Jesus, he has to defend the truth, as we all do regardless of how it's perceived or how unpopular that makes us..
I agree. Something is very off-putting about Mr. Huff.
The flaw in Billy's "sinai bible" argument is that he'd heard it didn't contain the resurrection. In his mind he extended this to the entire crucifixion
Unfortunately, Codex Sinaiticus still has the verses that points to the ressurection of Jesus.
@@skybattler2624 the gospel of mark in codex sinaiticus absolutely does not have the resurrection 🥴🤦♂️
@@tbishop4961 If you're gonna use Sinaiticus to challenge the resurrection, why cherry-pick just Mark when Matthew, Luke, and John are sitting right there in the same manuscript with complete resurrection accounts?
@@B-mg1pr I didn't. Read what I wrote again and think real hard
@@B-mg1pr I didn't. Read carefully
Get him on with Paul wallis👌..numbers💰
That I would like to see. I'd love to hear both their perspectives together. That would be so interesting and knowledgeable. If we could get Paul Wallis and Mauro Biglino with Wes... EPIC!!!
Yes.... that's just what I was thinking.... would really like to see a discussion between these two....
What about Wes and Mr Bill Donahue.
The truth will set u free. Said by Jesus
Yes our God.
'Arbeit macht frei " or work makes you free The words above the entry to the Auschwitz death camp. "What is truth? " Pontius Pilate. Jesus didn't answer him. So wanted him to be an ignorant patsy to the murder of a "deity" Therefore saying that Jesus loves all mankind is TOTAL BS. Proven by his own alleged words.And 100% CONFIRMED by his lack of them when it mattered. So what is the f-ucking difference between opening statement by you and the words to the entry to of a death camp? Also according to the writings of Paul you are either a slave to "righteousness" or "sin" So where the hell is this "freedom"? Or is it just another cynical malevolent Demiurge con job. And isn't it Satanists that are condemned in the minds of all for alleged human blood sacrifice? Yet this psycho who controls all "reality" demands the blood sacrifice of his own child for "sins" again Paul's writing tell us he set us up to fall into? When being omnipotent. All "god" would have to do is forgive? ZERO sacrifice necessary. Unless what people perceive as "god" is a sicko psychopath who is turned on by human sacrifice and eternal torment. That sounds like a delusional infantile fairy story to anyone with half a brain.
So this malevolent evil can blind as many as possible to torture them forever in hell. That's why having read and understood the contradictory malevolence written into the "infallable word of god" I could NEVER believe in the diabolical malevolent EVIL you see as "truth"
The TRUTH is " ye are gods ".
there is only one GOD.
The Aliens aren't going to be happy with Billy after this....
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I been struggling with pantheism and monotheism for half a decade! I went from Buddism to Christianity. I have followed Aaron Abke for 6 years now and now I'm following Wesley Huff. I've been praying for this debate for a long time cause I struggle and adore aspects of both beliefs.
None of this can be proven. it's all belief.
Belief is that can be proven as well
You know theories are "beliefs" until proven correct
Well Jesus was 100 percent real so you shouldn't say "None of this," -weather or not you believe he's the son of God- but he was definitely real.
Being nailed to the cross from Romans and then return back from the grave is not something any one else managed...
You ignore all historical documentation and expert analysis. By that logic every historical event that you personally did not witness cannot be proven. It’s all belief.
God dosent want war between different religions people fighting over whose right and whose wrong god wants peace , love, and a heartfelt relationship!! Nobody in this entire world will no the exact truth of anything relating to god untill our time is up and we go home thats when it will all be revealed
False. Every Prophet used by The FATHER knew Truth, hence being chosen. If a man follows His Commandments today, then that man knows Truth. If you follow the sun, sunday worship, and pagan holidays, you DO NOT know Truth.
I'd like a conversation with Alex O'Connor. Make it happen Wes!
People make life changing decisions based off of what they hear, therefore, truth must be shared and over shadow falsehoods.
Nobody knows the whole truth not even this guy or billy Carson
Wes and Aron is going to be a good conversation 👌
I love Wes’s house analogy. The problem with Wes’s methodology is that he’s so focused on the blueprint without ever looking up to see that it’s created a completely wonky unstable house that doesn’t function properly and has actually created a lot of flooding and electrical fires - because the blueprint was tampered with and modified by someone who didn’t want to see the house get built properly.
Council of nicea I assume?
Wes isn't blindly trusting some dusty old documents - he's actually doing the detective work to show how reliable they are. Those "flooding and electrical fires" aren't problems with God's Word, they're what happens when folks try playing spiritual DIY without reading the instructions. If the blueprint was really "tampered with," how do you explain the thousands of matching ancient manuscripts we have? That's a whole lot of tampering to coordinate across continents and centuries, don't ya think?
Jesus is the truth and our lord and saviour 🙏🏻✝️
And alien
Im an avid follower to Aaron Abke looking forward to watch this podcast with Wesley & Aaron.👍
Same here, his explanation resonates with me as well
Historical scholar debates are the new rock and roll
I’m sure to get flamed for this but …. Claiming to know the truth related to the Bible is a fallacy. You can claim what you believe and that you have faith, but claiming to know the truth is not legit.
Billy was the one capping saying some crazy claims on proven biblical facts.
Anything "godly" or supernatural could be described as alien like. I don't see why it's so hard for Christians to see that...
@@Gabe-lj9fo Well, this isn't unique to christians. Also, the concept of alien is relative so would need to be adequately defined for rational discussion.
@@Gabe-lj9fo Depends on what you mean by alien though if you mean not of this world then yes but if you mean a creature from outer space then no.
@@EchoGuzman He meant the former
Doesnt Sumerian precede the Bible ? It didn’t come from a magic bubble and Jesus didn’t write it himself
iam not sure but seems like they are all connected to the Greeks since they have the facts if true of all and most seems to be cherry picked from 3 brothers that controlled the world leading to all religions that are misused for power and control now if true but i don't believe a book that cannot provide real evidence that he is the son of the universe even if part alien or not he's still a man being a grifter simple other still trying to keep on that teat
Your right Jesus did not write it... the Devil did
iam not sure but seems like they are all connected to the Greeks since they have the facts if true of all and most seems to be cherry picked from 3 brothers that controlled the world leading to all religions that are misused for power and control now if true but i don't believe a book that cannot provide real evidence that he is the son of the universe even if part alien or not he's still a man being a grifter simple other still trying to keep on that teat
@@anthonyp3066You’re in a cult. It’s not real. You’ve been tricked into believing in mythology.
@@anthonyp3066Thats a stupid argument.
Im not a billy fan but they didn't debate . This guy is on a world tour saying he won a debate when there wasn't one.
He admitted it wasnt a debate on jre
He still devoured billys word salad tho
Billy's fictional theories and ideas are entertaining just like the WWE is😂
It wasn't a debate because Billy had no rebuttal.
that's even worse, Billy Carson lost to a conversation lol
@@467076like it was shocking. I was expecting a conversation to be had. Discussions about facts. My mind was blown when Billy admitted he quoted something wrong. How can you base your beliefs on things that were flawed. Arguments that the Bible was written by men is also hilarious. The five Books of Moses is acknowledged to have been written by men. The books of Prophets, same. Etc.
So why fixate on the gospel. Of course there are questions but… na wa o
He was formally trained. Like all those doctors telling us to get the covid jab
Yes, and that was good advice.
The difference is the people recommending the covid jab would be shut down or persecuted by our government at that time if they did not. Not the same here. So not the same comparison. So take the time to be embarrassed with yourself.
@@GeechieDan-uu9wm it wasnt.. but hes not a doctor. lol
terrible comparison. totally different field. totally different people.
Trained doesn't mean competent. Wes is trained and competent. Many doctors AREN'T.
2:09, 5:38 - Funny. That pesky, secular education, eh? Most of the 12 apostles had very little formal, high-education. Yet, they were chosen by God himself to rule in the most holy place, heaven itself, with Christ as priests and co-rulers. So, what does that tell you about what God thinks of man's wisdom? It really has very little value.
Wisdom isn’t knowledge
You say all of this, as if it's not fiction...
Yes, no uneducation initially. And then they were trained by Jesus himself for 3 years. I'd say they were pretty learned by the end
@moxyvillefrancisio4059 agreed. They learned from the best!
@@jonny-dp2qr wisdom is applied knowledge.
8:57 It’s not an argument, it’s a fact . First, the Council of Nicaea (325 CE) and Emperor Constantine’s role cannot be overstated. Constantine's conversion to Christianity was as much a political strategy as a personal conviction. By adopting Christianity, Constantine sought to unify a fractious empire under one state religion. The Council of Nicaea, convened under his authority, was not merely a theological gathering but a state-driven effort to standardize Christian doctrine. The Nicene Creed and the suppression of competing interpretations (e.g., Arianism) marked the beginning of a heavily Romanized version of Christianity. This event highlights that Christianity as we know it was shaped less by divine revelation and more by political necessity.
Second, the Bible itself is not a collection of primary sources. The Gospels, for instance, were written decades after the events they purport to describe and are heavily reliant on oral traditions and community memory. They are theological narratives rather than historical accounts. By contrast, the Enuma Elish and Atrahasis, which predate the biblical texts by centuries, are primary sources from Mesopotamian civilizations. These texts provide unfiltered insights into ancient Near Eastern cosmology and flood myths, which directly influenced the later composition of Genesis. The parallels between these older works and biblical narratives challenge the notion of the Bible as an entirely unique or divinely inspired document.
Moreover, the creation of Christianity as a tool for Roman authority becomes clearer when we examine its appropriation of older mythologies and traditions. Early Christianity incorporated elements of Greco-Roman religion, mystery cults, and ancient Near Eastern traditions to appeal to a diverse population. For example, the concept of a dying and resurrecting savior aligns with pre-existing motifs found in Osiris, Mithras, and even Tammuz. This syncretism allowed Christianity to gain traction among pagan populations, further proving its adaptability to Roman imperial needs.
Lastly, it is essential to emphasize that the Roman Empire effectively "created" Christianity as a state religion, not as a continuation of original teachings but as a homogenized belief system suitable for governing a vast and diverse empire. The suppression of competing gospels (e.g., the Gnostic texts) and alternative Christianities reveals a deliberate effort to control religious narratives.
In summary, Wes Huff’s defense of Christianity overlooks critical historical developments and textual evidence. Christianity did not emerge fully formed as a divinely inspired truth; it was a Romanized institution shaped by political and cultural forces. Recognizing this historical reality does not diminish the faith of its adherents but provides a clearer lens through which we can understand its origins.
Ok billy, we know your using fake profiles now. Just debate him again.
Due to the fact that people lived close to water sources as water is needed to survive, all ancient civilizations could have experienced deadly flooding without stealing a myth from somebody else. A historical part of us is not erased simply because we are a few generations away. The story of mankind is the taking up of farming. It helped us evolve as a species from migrating with animals for food to masters of our own homes. Tribes in North America were separated by migrating hunter gatherers to stationary farmers upon European arrival. Farming was even there. Nobody can say ancient oral stories are an adopted narrative incorporated into a new set of ideas because it is all or our history. The basic flute with holes drilled into hollow bones, bamboo, trees with sponge pith, is found all over as are bullroarers. Nobody can claim unique ownership of these creations. Some stuff really belongs to us all as a species. People claiming modern ownership of the ancient before others are absurd. Our ancient history is not stolen but a part of us. I believe you are referring to the Zeitgeist movie, if you research those other stories they are not the same story repeated. Zeitgeist lied and made bold claims for sensationalism. A kind reminder that a couple of decades is still in your lifetime and not so detached. Many died young in the past before antibiotics and understanding microbiology but many lived to be old, an average is just an average and not everybody. Do you remember your first-grade teacher today or will you remember your former neighbor on your deathbed? No, it's been decades, and your memories must be off because you always lie, don't you? Same personal point of view biases exists at the time of occurrence but trying to erase value because something was recorded decades later is very goal minded and from a motivation. I notice people who rationalize as such diminishing oral stories transcribed later in life are same people claiming every white person guilty for all of slavery when they were never alive at time of legal slavery and all civilizations had slaves. Just remarkable how malleable weak pseudo intellectual minds are eager for hypocrisy for scapegoating to feel better about yourselves or more powerful, or whatever personal gain you receive by being true racists. Truly inferior minds grasping at straws to justify your shallow lives. Never mind written stories down during a persons lifetime, but blame a whole people for stuff outside of their lifetime. It is very interesting the sort of magical thinking some people believe in and solid data they reject for their own personal gain while claiming stuff backwards, claim science on their side when it is not, and claim others are bigots and racists when it is so very clearly their own ideology which is.
Christianity is a tie and bond holding people together. The Shroud of Turin creating eye rolling in todays atheists does bring some tangible evidence outside of oral traditions, but really religion is based on faith. There is a cup said to have held Jesus's blood carried down over the years and it matched blood of the shroud. Today's science showed shroud to be 3D imagery. People should research it. I am putting that out there because not doing so is being deceitful. We are not judging a book alone but stuff carried down with it as holy relics. If you want to question the Old Testament, be my guest. Perhaps Jews claiming to be the chosen people by birth alone and linage to go straight to heaven created a members only club which blocked assimilation as Christianity promised salvation to all who heeded it. Christianity was much more welcoming and attractive. Then contrary to atheists, it helped humans create great things as the ability to imagine more than what we live in helps people imagine a better world to live in and assists in its creation. Atheists are most pessimistic and pessimists are best at creating misery and live in a bitter state. If you cannot see beyond yourself, you will always be in misery.
I do agree that Christianity was taken as a way to rule over others for dominance and power, like Sharia law and Islam. All religions will create a hierarchy of power. People do that. That is all a matter of human interpretation. We could argue over what books in the bible are authentic and which are todays equivalent climate change propaganda. The Ethiopian bible is likely closest to authentic source to study from as a purely historical reference on its contents. Roman version rejected some books doubting authorship but was also rejecting beliefs they did not support, like Mary as a close disciple of Jesus. If Rome did not take Christianity as a major religion, it may not be around today as it being more about teaching people to see beyond themselves and think of others is what helped one certain group travel the world with its message and turn into successful thriving nations. Those of other religions are still 3rd world, even if they possess small pockets of Christianity, it is corrupted with Magical Saints like in South America. In order to create a better world for all mankind people need to put their petty egos aside and work for the greater good. And that is why our countries are failing today, too many people are those who would have perished without Christian aid and are biting the hands which fed them and demanding the world at their feet over their skin color, sexuality, and mental illness. Todays Pope is at fault because a poor shepherd loses their sheep. To many years protecting kiddy S offenders losing trust of the people lost its cohesion because of that betrayal and churches supporting sexuality as an identity and bending a knee to a selfish narcissistic woke ideology over piety today (as if Pope might gain from kiddy S offenders being decriminalized and using woke itself to try to justify the major corruption of the church in our time.)
We are not ones morally appropriate to question the distant past and make judgments with our limited contemporary knowledge of it, we are members of our time and our battles are here.
@ Definitely not Billy, he’s a CIA shill.
@@E_flores_72bro typed a book thinking it was Profound but is just saying the same shiii we’ve heard for years🥱
Your historical timeline needs some fact checking. While Constantine did make Christianity the state religion, he was working with an already well-established faith that had spread across multiple continents.
And, if Christianity was just a Roman political tool, why did it flourish most in areas OUTSIDE Roman control? The Ethiopian and Persian churches were doing just fine without Rome's help. And those Gnostic texts you mentioned showed up centuries after the original gospels were already widely circulated.
As for those ancient Near Eastern parallels sure, there are flood stories in multiple cultures. The historical details of Jesus's resurrection are completely different from myths about Osiris or Mithras. The early Christians were Jewish monotheists who rejected pagan mythology.
Maybe dig a bit deeper into the actual historical evidence there's way more to this story than just "Rome did it".
Jesus literally say i am not of this world 🌍 what does that mean ppl ?
Aaron Abke is definitely a great teacher. ❤
Billy just regurgitates info he has heard or watched - not truly researches... his arrogance is unbelievable. Imagine if he said these claims about other faiths? He is a DEI "talking head", like Neil DGT
Are you kidding me? 😂😂 Clearly you know nothing about him
What does DEI have to do with this? Neil DGT is smarter than you- and that destroys your racist ego.
@@fractal1133are you really defending this charlatan?
@Esico6 absolutely
@@fractal1133 What’s DEI about Neil DGT? The man is obviously intelligent- why are you jealous?
This is actually a really poor attempted ‘debunking’ of billy carson’s theories. Not aaying i think Billy is spot on, but simply saying “people who rise from the dead have more authority than those who do not” is absolute bullshit. You are just pointing toward another point that cant be proven/disproven. The literal exact thing you are complaining about. Lmao
This guy is so exploiting the situation and is actually completely mischaracterizing the discussion
There is more evidence for the resurrection of Christ than any crackpot theory Billy put forth.
Are you really defending Billy the charlatan?
@@Esico6 not really, just saying this guy needs a better argument
Anything "godly" or supernatural could be described as alien like. I don't see why it's so hard for Christians to see that...
Good conversation on biblical matters.
Jesus built my hot rod..
All of a sudden I found myself in love with the world
There's a difference between "Believing" and "Knowing"
Not a fan of Wes. Seems fake.
As someone who has watched a Billy Carson video. He never states anything he says is true or the word. He just puts out an alternative way of thinking about what happened in the past. No one knows truly about our past. It’s all up to each individual to come up with their version of the truth and what you want to follow. Being a Christian is no worse or better than being a Muslim. Just appreciate everyone’s theory and use it to mold your belief.
Cringe take. Their must be an objective truth that we must all strive to find . And for me and many others that is Jesus Christ. If Billy disagrees he must come with a compelling argument guided with facts. If he can't produce that he's misleading people and can potentially send them to an eternal death in hell. It's that simple is Jesus who he says he is? Or is he a phony. And I and my family believe he is exactly who he claims himself to be.
Unless you actually follow Islam you’d know they are bad people literally told to kill and rape anyone not Muslim
@@vision8641 So does that imply your subjective belief is objective truth?
@@jacobmilette8808 unless there's a better more compelling argument out there, since unlike many others I've spoken to the creator yes.
@@jacobmilette8808 my subjective Belief happens to be the objective truth that Jesus Christ is God almighty made flesh.
Jesus literally say i am not of this world
In other words Billy has done irrevocable harm to the Christian brand.
He tried and failed!!!
What? lol
Good
That's why Jesus sent Wes Huff ❤
Hey is it possible to add subtitles in your videos? I’m having hard time hearing.
I wonder what Wes thinks of author and Vatican scholar Mauro Biglino.
Honestly I think you spend too much time on further humiliating Billy instead of getting some other question for Wes. Even Wes said he’s not into the psychology of why Billy does what he does but more what he does and who he is. Love your content. Just some feed back
This guy really really really enjoyed roasting Billy Carson as that is a big accomplishment 😂
Yeshua wasn’t a Christian
What was he
A Christian is a follower of Christ. If Christ was a follower of himself than he would have no authority. John 7:18 "He who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory, but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is a man of truth; in Him there is no falsehood."
Christ was a follower of His Father who sent Him and commanded us to be a follower of the Son. Psalm 2:12 "Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, And you perish in the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him."
He reached Christ consciousness just like Buddha, he tried teaching people the same shit but they crucified him
@@TheAll-b9p Jesus never claimed to reach enlightenment - He claimed to be God incarnate from the beginning. Its like comparing apples and, well, the one who created apples. Buddha taught a path to escape suffering, while Jesus came to take our suffering upon Himself. Buddha pointed to a way, Jesus said "I am the way." You might say Buddha was trying to climb the mountain to reach enlightenment, while Jesus came down from heaven to meet us in our valley. Pretty big difference there. And about that crucifixion - it wasnt just an unfortunate misunderstanding, it was actually His plan all along. The cross wasnt a failure of His mission, it was the completion of it. Kinda changes the whole narrative doesnt it
Heres the thing about history… its one Bullet, Spear, Sword, or Arrow or fire away from being whatever a person in power decides.
Truth is Truth. Victors of war write their own story, but that doesn't make it True.
Wes is just a damn kid, read men made books thinks he knows truth, just an iceberg of truth, billy was closer to truth lmao
You have a cartoon as your avatar
Jesus came from heaven? Yes. Is heaven above earth? Yes.
Heaven is not earth. Jesus is an extraterrestrial. By definition. There isn’t anything nefarious about that statement. If you believe in the Bible then it’s a statement of fact. It doesn’t mean he’s green with big eyes. Just not of earth. The Bible tells us that much.
Extraterrestrial is interesting word..Greek..extra means more and terra means land..just saying interesting meaning
@ Extraterrestrial means something that originates outside of Earth or its atmosphere. If you originate in heaven, and heaven is not on earth, you would be an extraterrestrial as we under that definition.
You are only allowed to draw accepted conclusions about this religion 😂
Wes should challenge these podcasters with large platforms on why they gave Billy Carson a platform in the first place. The bigger issue lies in chasing guests simply because they’ve appeared on other popular podcasts. By doing so, podcasters contribute to spreading false Christian claims and misinformation, making them equally accountable. Billy Carson is just the current scapegoat-his actions and inaccuracies have been exposed for some time. It’s commendable that Wes had the stones to speak out publicly on this matter.
And what kind of proof does he have
absolutely zero the dudes a fraud.. He’s a smart guy and uses his intelligence to mislead people..
I don’t believe in religion at all but I hear more truth in Billy’s words than wes.
That's something that can be treated with modern medicine...
Thats because you don’t want to hear it. Billy is a charlatan.
So you believe on a conman than someone who actually spent years perfecting his craft?
Yeah...
I would like them to debate Dr.John Demartini. ...and see why the bible was written, who created Christianity....
Modern Christianity was created by the the man/entity that no one recognized on the 3rd day resurrection after his big argument with Michael. He even changed his form afterwards to deceive:
Mark 16
12 After that *he appeared in another form* unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.
By definition Jesus was “alien”…
Literally!
The point is not in the way Billy is implying
@ no one should listen to these people anymore until they can have a real truthful conversation. Let’s start it out with what is the difference between the Earth and the world. Now let’s go from there then we can move onto what is the difference between Jesus and John
Don’t let trump get Jesus, he will be deported too 😂
Humans are souls in human body “suits”. There are a multitude of strange supernatural things that happen. One of these is astral projection. Christians are not supposed to do it because it an action of the occult. God warns against doing things of the occult (Deuteronomy 18:10-14). Witches and warlocks do it all the time. They travel around as a soul leaving their body. They spy, interact with other astral projectors, interact with demonic spirits and cast spells on people this way. For instance, a witch and warlock may leave their body in their living room and travel around in the spirit realm. They will illegally access the spirit realm. We need not fear them however since we can plead the blood of Jesus to keep us safe.
Paul says the following:
2 Corinthians 12:1-4
1 I must go on boasting. Although there is nothing to be gained, I will go on to visions and revelations from the Lord. 2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows. 3 And I know that this man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows- 4 was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Paul is saying he is not sure if he was caught up to the third heaven in his body or out of his body. He’s not sure if it was in the body or apart from the body. This means that he is not sure if he was caught up to heaven by being taken out of his body and travelling there as a soul or if he travelled there in his body.
The bible says even more concerning the body and the soul.
Matthew 10:28
28 And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
As the bible is saying, we should not fear human beings who can only kill our body but fear the Lord who can kill the body and the soul. A human being is a soul which is in a fleshy body. This is why at the Resurrection of the dead, the dead in Christ shall rise and get a glorified body. Those whose bodies had decayed or been burnt in fire all the way to being ash will get a new perfect body for the soul will be in this new body. And those who are still alive will get their imperfect human bodies transformed into a glorified form. Jesus Christ is God who came into a human body. This is why Jesus is fully God and fully man because by definition he is. He is fully man since he is in a human body which operates by the bodies human mechanisms. Yet he is fully God since he still has his divine nature. This is why even though his body was human and he felt all the senses of the body even the pain of the cross. Yet he was able to do miracles whilst doing his earthly ministry for his divine nature was still intact. We humans are souls in a body. Jesus is God in a human body thus he is fully human and fully God. Am I not human because I am a soul in a body? I am human for by definition that’s what a human is. Jesus is defined as a human and God. Praise the Lord for his infinite wisdom, seeing it fit to become a man to save mankind from itself. Glory to the lamb of God who was slain to take away the sins of the world. Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God Almighty, found it fit to save our wretched souls from sin. Thank you Jesus🙏🏾.
He was either an alien or a time traveler
All of us are time travellers.
I know you didn't say this expecting adults to take you seriously so I will laugh along with you😂
facts.. Yeshua was definitely an alien..
Alien if you consider God stepping into our realm, time traveler if you're considering God is outside of time and stepped into our time.
No Time Traveler, for everything is coming to pass and we are nearing the end of the age. Neither an Alien, at least not in sci-fi terms. For Heaven is his throne, and the Earth his footstool. You have to read scripture to fully understanding what has happened, is happening and what’s coming.
If I stated I was "in the world, but of the world" I might be a 👽🤣
He reminds me of Adam just clean cut snake
Which Adam?
@@empirevision9873 pbd’s adam
Pbd’ Adam
To the host:
You do t need to be traumatized as a child to become a person who don’t agree with popular ideas and theories that provided to you by others. It’s just you need to have an extraordinary interest in learning and questioning things that other people don’t bother to ask . They just eat what they ve been provided. Only sharp minds will dig and explore
This guy isn’t a real Bible scholar he’s an apologist.
Get a CRITICAL scholar on with him and let’s see how he really fare.
I promise you this dude got famous off making a mistake just like Billy.
He literally holds a master degree in theology, dude. "A quick google search."
you sound bitter he is so articulate and knowledgeable
@@AYes-m3r you’re confusing competence with confidence.
Actual Bible scholars have already corrected his ass a bunch of times.
To his credit Wes is in those chats accepting the mistakes and vowing to correct them in a video soon.
@@Allothersweretakennwhich scholars
@@blinks6736 if you really want a list
BART ehrman
Dan McClellan
Kipp Davis
Ammon hillman
Just 4 Ammon will give the most entertaining and Bart the most informative
Here's the problem. Half the story is missing. The half of the story being addressed is the latter half that covers about to 2K years. The beginning of the story which is much longer isn't even addressed in earnest. I didn't hear Abraham or Moses once. Jesus was a Jew not a christian a Jew with a familial history back in the old testament. You can't separate Jesus from the old testament or the god of the old testament because his bloodline originates there.
I will always respect Billy's reasoning seems more realistic compared to Huff's biblical view of reality...
That was an excellent and successful debate, Wesley Huff! Well done, bro. Out of curiosity, how would you go about investigating the sources of evidence for the existence of aliens?
So Wes says that no one can prove or disprove that Jesus was an alien. So then if Billy wants to believe he’s an alien he can. Just like he wants to believe whatever it is about Jesus Wes can as well.
Wes = Dr. Seuss Green Eggs & Ham apologist
everyone can believe whatever they wish. but if you're going to argue the Bible you better have a good understanding of it.
@ Lol ok
Billy taking the time to research the things Wes used to correct him and humbly admitting he could be wrong would go a long way in redeeming his reputation
Billy Carson fan for life!
Still listening to him!
You go buddy
Cultish behavior..
Why a fan? Thank you Lord for leading this guy out of lies and deception to the truth in Jesus name.
I don’t agree with everything Billy says but he’s still closer to the truth than Wes…by a long shot.
@ondemandeconomy938 agreed
I don’t understand how evidence is backed by evidence from other books. If one book can be manipulated, can’t them all?
Nobody knows anything.. it was over 2000 years ago. Life is just hell
You seem to know a lot
We do know actually over 5000 manuscripts say so and other evidence. Hope you find peace
@@003theflash Quantity /=/ fact. Quantity = suggestion
Looks ike you know something
I know we were born in a prison and are slaves. Born into temptation and punished over it. Life makes no sense..
Got into the Adaxum presale early. It feels great to be ahead of the curve on this one.
The man that was born of a virgin, did the miraculous in his lifetime, died and came back to life was just as human as Jose down the street.
How about This guy and Billy meet somewhere in the middle.
Because the truth is about 99.8% towards Wes. So why would they meet in the middle?
@Actual_Human_Take
Romans 1:3
People go around and around over this, probably because the Catechism directly contradicts the above verse. I suspect the influx of pagans into the early church brought with it the pagan fetish with adulterous "gods" - so naturally they felt the need to make themselves at home and blaspheme (intentionally or otherwise) the actual God... hence the misunderstanding about what "Son of God actually means."
John 3:6 [Greek word for "gives birth to" and "begets" are the same]
John 4:24
If Jesus was merely a mortal, then we have no salvation.
He wasn't just a man like Jose, you're right .... He is the Son of God
Damn, the Christians were big mad at Billy 😂. 4BK ❤
Wes single handedly ruined Billy brother. Made him look super ignorant.
@josuejimenez6174 let me guess...you love Jesus.
@@SuperNintendoChalmers1 you know it’s really weird to defend someone for being wrong by mocking the ones who were right. It makes you almost look as silly as Billy did in the debate.
?? Why to be mad at someone who expose him self as a conman, lier and less intelligent..
If anything we can be sad for him😅
just a matter of time...long as he upset their money and look like they are the authority over blak history.... white imagges of christianty for the last 500 years ...but billy is a problem.
Love this content i love historical FACTS!!! Please disprove billy because its good for us to know the historical facts ...
He never disproved Billy about Anything in that interview except for 1 thing.
@@fractal1133 then your an atheist and don't believe that Jesus arose from the dead and don't you believe that Jesus is Lord ?
I think it's more important that history has always been written by those in power and at the same time destroyed history they didn't like, and the church has always been on the side of those in power. I think that's the biggest argument against Wess.
Only Catholics believe everything the Roman Catholic Church says.
A bunch of us Christians recognize the history of Rome and the politics running up to it suddenly adopting Christianity. This adoption done by an Emperor who would double as Pope that didn’t even believe Jesus and his words.
So how can you build on a poor foundation.
These people then go on to choose the books that make up the other parts of the Bible and leave others out.
However, we recognize the message of Jesus is the truth that we never dispute. We believe in His works, and we are saved through his ultimate sacrifice. We also believe that we have Jesus as our guide.
Every side wrote their histories, and not all get destroyed, the victor invariably controls the narrative, but only for a time. What I've learned in my studies of history is that reading a nation's history books over the ebbs and flows of their national identity we can sift out specific bias or agendas over time to get a fairly good idea of what probably most likely happened, especially when we run that through the changes in how that specific place's history gets taught over time in the books from a different country. I.e., American history books published in America in 1930, 40, 50 and what American history is in UK history books from the same decades with what is said about America in Japanese history from those decades as well, you will come away with a fairly good idea that none of that will fix our car for us..
That argument against the Bible only works on a surface level
Truth is never found, its only sought after.
It doesn't matter whether your huff or Billy its interpretation of words lost in time is debated by intellectuals. In the end, it does not prove a single thing
Only ppls desperation and blindness to believe
This needs to be heard across the ancient alien theater for all who have doubt about Christ.
Why does it matter if Jesus was an alien or not? The truth is that we'll never know in this physical life. The faith is created from the uncertainty. Set your ego down and try to understand that true path to God is created within one's heart regardless of what you believe in!
Only through Jesus can you have a true relationship with God...your heart will only lead you to sin and distance from God....also....to a Christian....it matters greatly....one is a fraud....the other is truth....
@filbertovandette and that is also spoken from your ego that you think you're right and everyone else is wrong. I myself is not saying that you are right or wrong bc simply we won't ever know for sure and that is the whole point. You believe what you believe in and respect what others believe in.
@testing6753 but we do know. That's the thing. You keep saying we don't really know. Speak for yourself. You'll see. At least be open to the idea
@ alright i'll just speak for myself! i'll believe what i believe in. and you believe in what you believe in sir!
@testing6753 what do you actually believe???
You sound like how Mormons speak.
I hope he writes a book that debunks THOMAS PAINE'S Age of Reason.
Is Billy trying to amass an army of lazy, gullible truthseekers?
Yes
BigGuy
Yes. Billy doing their thinking for them. So lazy ...
Doesn't he look like the main character from the boxing 'Gladiator' movie???😂😂😂
"Maybe he had a bad day that day....". Yeah it began when Wes showed up.
Billy did not have a bad day. Wes just assumes he is correct. Did you even watch it? Now he is running his mouth and smearing billy
@@fractal1133 Billy was the whole time though to be fair. lol Billy isnt correct. im sorry. i know you want him to be. i was raised in that world.. you need to find Jesus, the real Jesus. You are more interested in entertainment than truth though. Ghost and aliens are fun and exciting and you dont have to feel bad for communicating with demons, but that is what you would be doing.
@@nothanksplease Billy was what the whole time? BTW, I don't 'want' billy to be right. I have no idea if he or this guy is right or wrong, and neither do you. (Aside from the bible he referenced that is most likely a fake). Stop telling people what to believe.
What in the earth are we talking about!! Focus on the way we are getting screwed here. Do not ose focus on the people who are twisting the world.
I wish the entire world would watch this
😂😂😂
This guy takes the prize for most brainwashed. Does he even hear himself and his arrogant nonsense?
😂 Billy is a charlatan. A fake. Proven to be wrong. You can’t handle the truth.
A guy promoting the bible as evidence and has the audacity to lecture about making claims without evidence.
The Bible is backed up with evidence for centuries…
This 33 years of dude comes off like he knows everything he might have read a lot of scriptures, but he does not have the life experience in a month of years behind him that he can do all this research. Basically, he just comes out very confident and he can wrap people around his finger
Alex o'connor is the guy he should debate or spar with. He is orders of magnitude better than anyone he has debated with.
Yes or any real Bible scholar.
BART ehrman
Kipp Davis
Dan McLlelan
Ammon hillman
He wouldn't do that. Alex would likely destroy him.
@ the second video he made after getting famous off Billy was titled “ I probably WONT debate you” lmao
Basically saying yeah I’m in no rush to get exposed
I watched a literal nobody....a dude with 10k subs.... annihilate every point Alex tried to use....Alex isn't a biblical scholar.... he's essentially the religious version of Destiny....oddly ....Alex can akso be a girl's name....
@filbertovandette drop link or where can I see what u claim...
Just grabbed my ADX tokens during the Adaxum presale. The future looks bright for this project!
This guys going all out off Billy's name to get popular. That's The Carson effect.
wrong pbd and joe called him not the other way around
Where's the full video? 😬
Religous people fighting over fairy tales is pretty funny.
U summed it up so well. it's weird to me I'm Irish and we don't have this bible bashers. It's a 2000 year old book we have no idea who wrote what bits. Loafs and fishes maybe he had 5 Whales
@Irishmacwoof mate I struggle with it. I just don't understand faith at all!! I really do try to understand but for me it's as if 90% of the planet believes Santa clause really exists.. its just insanity lol
@Irishmacwoof I think i might have watched too many Richard dawkins videos, that dudes a beast.
@Ryan-eu3kp Christianity is one sentence "do on others as you would like them to do on you". Or in 3 words treat people fair. If the world did just that it would be much a better place
And people fight for piece of cloth flags and imaginary borders