Klipsch Tower Speakers! R700 Killer? 😯 KLIPSCH RP-8000F II Review
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Klipsch Tower Speakers! R700 Killer 😯 KLIPSCH RP-8000F II Review
00:00 KLIPSCH TOWER SPEAKERS (8000F II INTRO)
00:20 KLIPSCH RP8000F II SPECS
01:07 RECEIVER FOR KLIPSCH SPEAKERS (HOME THEATER)
01:36 AMPLIFIER FOR KLIPSCH RP-8000F II (STEREO)
01:58 KLIPSCH SPEAKER PLACEMENT
02:42 KLIPSCH SPEAKER MEASUREMENTS
03:35 RP-8000F II SOUND
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07:33 KLIPSCH VS TRIANGLE BOREA
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08:18 MARTIN LOGAN XT F100 VS KLIPSCH 8000F II
08:34 RP-8000F II VS 8000F
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12:07 VS CONCEPT 50
13:23 KRISTI 8000FII THOUGHTS
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Thanks so much for the review . I've been waiting for this, and I'm overjoyed to watch the review 👍
I will definitely purchase a pair in the coming months .
@@bmultimate1One Yay!!
Hai Andrew and Kristy .. I was almost getting Kef Q950 .. and your review just came out on this RP8000 I was comparing, made me rethink.. please give me some tips …
I am 70% music 30% movie person..
Thanks for a great review. How does it compare soundwise to the Tekton Double Impact?
You should review the 500c vs the 504c with these.
What I love about the Mk2s is how friendly they are to your respective space. Knowing they sound great in a tight space against a wall or a big open room is very appealing. I know other speakers can do it too, but it’s comforting knowing what you’re gonna get with Klipsch
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Andrew & Kristi, great video! I can't imagine how hard it was to make a comparison between the 8000F-II vs the R700. 😆 I truly appreciate what you noted about low-level listening. It is often difficult to find speakers that perform well at low-levels with intelligibility. I also appreciate Kristi's comment: "You have to know what kind of listener you are, and be OK with it." I wholeheartedly concur.
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My first gen 8000s are fantastic at lower volumes... I can listen in our apartment with my wife sleeping in the neighboring room without her waking up or me feeling like I'm missing anything.
Wow, what Kristi said definitely hit different. It was like a “check yourself” moment…for me anyway. I have a 7.2.4 setup with majority of Definitive Technology speakers and recently purchased Anthem MRX 1140 (moving from a RZ50). But as you continue to watch these videos of new speakers and AVRs you are always question whether or not it’s good enough.
@@user-gs4oi1fm4l Wow. That's really good to know. I'm transiting from a studio environment to an audiophile set up that I can also use for listening, but also A/B testing masters. At certain times of the night, low level listening would be handy.
@@robo3412 Yes, I agree. That comment was a gut punch and affirmation all at the same time. 😂. It was like she was saying, "Hey. Wake up, know who you are and own it!" 😂
I purchased the Polk R 700 on a leap of faith based on 3 outstanding reviews, one of which was yours. Like you, I have a wide appreciation of different types of music. I wanted a versatile speaker that didn’t necessarily need a sub and I am not disappointed at all. So far the only system I’ve heard them with is my home theater. My amp for that system is a refurbished Carver TFM 25 which is rated 350 watts per channel at 4 ohms with the rest of the surround speakers driven by a Yamaha Aventage. For the money, the R700’s are the ones to beat due to my musical taste. My other system is a pair of Carver Amazing Platinum driven by a Sunfire 600 and Sunfire tube preamp. That system was a gift and is on another level. But, things change and my home theater system will eventually have to be my only system. Thanks for all you knowledge and advice.
Same here. Love my R700s, but was heavily tempted on the Klipsch. Main reason was no sub in my setup. Still no sub in my setup and loving it.
Guys you have knocked another one out of the ballpark! Your review really drew me in. I didn’t want it to end. I’m not in the market for another speaker, but if I were, this would be top of the list. Gotta say, your enthusiasm is infectious. Keep up the excellent work. Much appreciated
Thank you, Gary!
After 20 years with the Athena Technology Audition Series this past week I replaced my floor speakers with the Klipsch RP-8000F II. Even in the first hour of setting these up I could tell the 8000F II are going to be fun and rewarding to own. I wrestled for so long over whether to get the R700 or or 8000F II but in the end I think I had to recognize the fact that the older my hearing gets the less compelling a flat/neutral "audiophile speaker" is to me. Although the measurements as you showed on the 8000F is relatively flat, there is something about that Klipsch sound that I appreciate the older I get. Thanks Andrew and Kristi for being a part of the journey via your channel!
I just wanted to thank you, Andrew; this review opened my eyes to the Klipsch RP-8000 family, so I went and checked out a set of the RP-6000 (all that was available to demo) and was blown away. I ended up buying the RP-8060FA II (on sale for $1799.00/pr) and am just totally amazed at the clarity, definition, and power these deliver. They have brought back the joy of listening to music that I haven’t felt since being a teenager.
Please keep up the good work; your honest and detailed reviews really help folks like me.
I like Kristi’s take at the end. It does seem like many in the audiophile community love nothing more than to tell you why your system sucks. Kristi is right, you need to know what system is right for you and be okay with it, and damn the haters!
To hell with the haters.
That's exactly why I went back to Klipsch and bought the Cornwall IVs. I said to myself, "You love Klipsch, why keep screwing around with other speakers?" Who cares if others hate them, I had to get what I love.
LOL . Hate the haters .
You made me buy a set of RP8000F MkII. So pleased with it.
Note: Beyond the obvious quality of the channel content, I'm amazed how good the videos look and sound (Bokeh/Dof, lighting/exp and voice spec.), Just made with love. Useful and very pleasant to watch. Please keep up.
I'm so glad you are happy with your 8000s and thank you so much for the kind words and support. We really appreciate when anyone recognizes our efforts! We hope to see you on Sunday morning for our next video!
Im getting mine tomorrow afternoon ! Cant wait and after this on point and awesome review im sure i wont be disappointed ! Good quality work ! Thanks for your your reviews it really helps make a decision ! And makes u feel better about it !
listened to my RP-8000f's (Piano Black!!) ....for 2yrs,......bought the RP-8000f ll .....for $1000...tax,delivered....hooked them up...never looking back....tight base...upper clarity....difference ...wow...
I love the piano black....but. not important anymore....these things sound amazing......zero regrets!!.....
What amp/setup are you running? im trying to upgrade from a set of old RP260s hooked up to Marantz cinema 70s.
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Andrew, just another perfect review ! I just love the fact that you can review products in two different ways : Technically and emotionnally.
This gave reviews so much more credibility. And the comparison with other speakers like the R700 is just the icing of the cake. Just LOVE your works guys Andrew and Kristi !
Way to come out swinging, taking a position, supporting it and packaging the peer comparisons. It’s these gift bags that this audio journey so rewarding
This was one of the BEST videos you have ever made. Your dialog and your camparisons and opinions are so much fun to listen to. There was something special about this video. Can't wait to hear your reviews of the Seven's and/or Nine's.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I very much appreciated the R700 comparison and conversation at the end! That was incredibly helpful for me. I’ve been eyeing the R700 because of your review, but knowing these are very close and have the Klipsch sound I LOVE, I am pumped to get my hands on them! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Great review and comparison, I really appreciated the way you included subjectivity in the discussion. Having bought the Polk R700s, actually before your initial review, your description of them was spot on. For me, I get listening fatigue quite easily and quickly, so the Polks are perfection for my purposes. I have to say that I sought that higher end sparkle when I was much younger, and could see myself possibly going for the Klipsch back then. But I’m a very happy man in the here and now with the Polks. Great video guys!
I think you've made the best choice for you. Thanks so much for hanging with us today.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews No worries at all, it’s always good, cheers to you both from Australia.
Was waiting for this review to drop. I loved it. Will be placing an order for the Klipsch RP-8000F IIs very soon.
I don’t have nearly the experience with a variety of equipment like you two do. Your reviews of the Klipsch RP8000F II and of the Onkyo RZ50 hit a responsive chord in me and like I said in my post below, I ordered the receiver and the speakers. I added a Klipsch SPL 120 subwoofer. All I’ve done so far is to hook them up with my 75” Samsung TV. The sound is awesome! The clarity of the speakers is incredible. The more I listen to them, the more impressed I am.
If the only person who has to like the sound of my system is me, color me pleased! Thank for sharing your insights!
I have the Reference R-600FA and so far I’m enjoying them; I have come to know them, I imagine jumping to the RP’s, specially with bigger woofers the sound will be considerably better, but I had a budget to work it. My R-600’s have introduced me to the hobby of listening to music, which I appreciate it and channels like this one keep me motivated in to learning and admiring sound.
I have the MK1 RP-8000F and absolutely love them. I know you two are not as much of a fan of gloss black, but I bought them in the Piano Black Lacquer finish and it is a game changer in quality and beauty! Mine are in a dedicated room so I don’t have to worry about danger of getting scratched, but my gosh, I think that finish is totally overlooked and underrated. Wish they would bring it back for MKII. Definitely gives them a genuine premium look and feel.
Thanks for the review. A new world was opened for me when I switched from B&W to Klipsch a few years back. For a metalhead there is no better speaker brand imho. I bought the RF7 MKIIIs last year, pretty much an endgame purchase for me.
Thanks to you, in part, we did get a pair of the RP-8000F speakers about 2 years ago (thankfully, in piano black). Absolutely love them! They are enjoyed by themselves for most of our listening; however, we kick on the Klipsch subwoofer when watching movies or listening to music at spirited levels. With that said, I often think that I left the sub on, and when I go to flip the switch, I find that it is already in the off position. That just reinforces the point that they really do produce enough low-end for low to mid level listening.
For those with the series 2 on their short list... as a series 1 owner, I say go for it.
Now begins my quest to replace my 23 year old Yamaha, so I'll be watching a lot more "Andrew Robinson" reviews.
God bless and please keep the content flowing.
Edit: These are listened to in a 2.1 setup for all purposes. Decided to ditch 5.1 and are all the happier for it.
Thanks Andrew and Kristi, love the video as usual. As a former owner of the original 8000F, I can say they do have such a special sound that makes vocals really pop. They deliver far above their price range with nearly any receiver due to their insane sensitivity. My dream pick would be the Paradigm Founder which after hearing Paradigm nearly 20 years ago, I never forgot that experience. I’d love to hear your opinion on the Paradigm line if they ever send demos.
I was on the fence about buying the 8000f ll at first, after watching this video I decided to pull the trigger and order them. I’ve been living with them for just over a month now and I could not be more happier with them, they are everything you said they are. Bass is tight and vocals are CLEAR and sparkle, some of the most fun speakers I’ve ever heard. Thank you for your great reviews and videos! And for anyone thinking of getting a pair I highly recommend them. Running them on a Denon DRA-800H receiver.
i heard these lacks bass extension, is it true?
was waiting for this review, thanks for all your hard work!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Thank you for the review! I love my Klipsch RP series speakers for the same reasons that you two do. They sure are live and dynamic sounding.
Awesome review Andrew.. No one conveys the details and nuances like you do and you always paint a great picture in my mind as to what the speaker sounds like.. And I have to say mate I love hearing Kristi's thoughts at the end as she always brings a fresh perspective and delivers it in such a way I could listen to her for ages.. The the icing on the cake so to speak! Thanks for all your hard work..
I loved this review and interview style there is sooo much information provided (this made me subsribe looking forward to this kind of reviews)
After listening to your review a few times, I decided to play with my RP-8000F mk 1 position. I had them about 16” away from the wall toed in so they pointed straight at my sitting position. I moved them closer to the back wall and as you suggested for the mk 2 changed the toe in so each face to the sides of my head, not straight at me. Wow. Big difference. Much better imaging and soundstage when listening to stereo music (pure direct). Played Yosi Horikawa Spaces album, very loud! In the track Crossings, though the trucks were going to run over me. Amazing. Always learn something from you. Thanks.
I suspect I would go with the Klipsch given my love of a more live sound. I also think I could be happy with the R700s in a heartbeat. Was really happy to see this review. I had just finished a hike and was back for a late breakfast. Your video popped up in notifications. And I thoroughly enjoyed it. The comparison portion of your videos is definitely appreciated and makes the reviews along with Kristi's insights.
Hope you had a good hike. Appreciate the feedback as always!
Thank you for talking about how close you could place the speakers to the wall before sound was degraded. Super helpful! Please keep doing this in future reviews!
Noted!
You can do a lot of stuff but you just move the problems (peaks & cancellations). With a dsp you can solve a lot of this problems so a placement in corners (subs) or speakers closer to the wall isnt such a big deal, you can minimize the Problems with it. Genelec has some great guides how you can place speakers
Seems like a good honest review.. I work late and a LOT of my use is late so as to not upset the neighbors I usually use headphones but I'm all-in for easier low level dialog and details.. I'm ready for a set of these. Recently bought the bookshelf RP500m's and stuck them in the living room for couple days... convinced now !! I WANT the towers now. Thanks for the really detailed reviews !! Both you and Kristi bring up very good examples points.
Great review as ever.
I've not listened to many Klipsch speakers but from listening to your various reviews, I started looking on Facebook market place and managed to pick up a pair of RP-280FA's and a 450c for £800. I do believe I got myself a bargain.
I love the sound. Best speakers I've ever had.
I need some rears but I need a new receiver first as my ancient Yamaha V375 doesn't have atmos. On a plus, there is plenty of room for improvement.
Every time you have a AVR review, I'm all over it.
Many thanks.
Went with R700 based on previous review and am super happy. Love the substantial bottom end and overall neutrality. All I hear is the music and not the speaker. My enjoyment with other speakers depended a lot on the recording or type of music.
I own the 8000F II and have been very happy with them, driven by an Onkyo RZ50 in a simple 3.1 setup tuned with Dirac Live, and an RP-404C center. I think a big plus is how easy they are to drive, Klipsch have always been an efficient speaker, they are great both quiet and loud, and no issues with noise floor. I don't think I need an amp until I add more channels. In pure stereo, I found the speakers are very good as well but adding the sub does add a little something extra, so I usually listen to music in "stereo" mode which adds the sub. You will definitely want a sub for a full home theater experience to get the full LFE experience (e.g. Top Gun Maverick was amazing!). The biggest downside is they are quite big, so you need a big room, and of course you need to happy with the look and finish. Long time watcher of the channel, thanks for reviewing these, I made my decision on these in part to your review of the v1 product (and your review of the RZ50 as well).
i heard these lacks bass extension, is it true?
How big of a room? I have a room over the garage with a tall ceiling.
I loved this review so much, and have been so looking forward to it especially since I bought the RP-8000F II last year and I love them so very much. This is an affirmation for me and confirmation I’m not the only one who thinks these speakers are freaking amazing!
I own the 8000f 2's . First time building a dedicated room. Everything else has been out of the box systems. I am thankful for these reviews as i personally think that the system is amazing but dont have a lot to compare too. I have to agree as well on the low level listening as after 1 day i was politely asked to lower the volume by the "boss" because "the roof was blowing off" so at low low levels everything is fantastic. Thanks for the validation, as this world of speaker purchasing is insane.
LOVE you guys. Amazing review as always! Thanks to you both and your awesome reviews, my wife & I went to hear the Klipsch Cornwall and Forte speakers this week at a local HiFi dealer. Sadly, he had JUST sold his La Scalas so no dice on hearing those. Sad face. He had us listen to the Cornwalls first (prob a sales ploy), and we both instantly fell in love. I mean we were GOBSMACKED! We instinctively danced together right there in the middle of his sales floor. And we truly felt like we were at a live, intimate concert. It's been 3 days and I still wake up thinking about that Cornwall sound, and I can't wipe this damn smile they gave me off my face. Kristi, I know you like the Fortes better, but to us those sounded nearly identical just with more bass (we're both not big fans of lots of bass), but the Fortes had a noticeably smaller sound (sorry!). Like what they are... a smaller, skinnier Forte. For the small (relative) price increase to Forte, I'd pick Cornwalls 10/10 even though they are HUGE in physical size. The Cornwalls cost a lot more on an absolute basis, but not relatively much more, and for us they'd be an end game speaker. You guys totally made the right choice imo going Cornwall over Forte, although I'm not the one moving yours weekly. :) My questions for both of you include: how close due the RP-8000F II's come to your Cornwalls or the Fortes Kristi likes better? As a %, do the RP-8000F II's get you 80% there? Would the near $4-5k saved be worth it with the RP-8000F IIs vs. the Klipch Heritage line? Will the RP-8000F IIs put a similar smile on my face like the Heritage line is capable of?
I think the 8000Fs could totally make someone happy. I know Kristi prefers the 8000s to the Cornwalls but you may feel differently. I still maintain that the sweet spot in the Heritage line is the Fortes. It sounds like you know what you really want and I think you should trust your instincts and your experience with the Cornwalls.
Thanks so much for supporting the channel with your Super Thanks!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I shared your response with Lauren and she said “that’s a great answer!” I couldn’t agree more. Thanks for inspiring me to bring her into this crazy hobby. Before kids, date nights ended with music listening and lots of talking. Hoping to bring that back into our lives. The Cornwalls we both fell in love with might just be the ticket. Thanks again not only for responding so thoughtfully, but for everything you both do and stand for.
You should try the RT-7ii
I waited years to purchase a home audio speaker, got the MK I. The II’s came out like 4 weeks after purchase, and I was able to make the swap (and get a free 15” sub). I enjoyed the mk I; the II’s did sound more refined while being a ton of fun. Me and my wife enjoy listening to record after record on these things every single night. Weekend movies are fantastic as well w/ Marantz sr 6015.
Appreciate you sharing! Glad you were able to upgrade to the MKII.
Love the detail in this review guys! Informative and very helpful!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I get my pair Tuesday along with 2 Valencia home theater chair and RP-502Sii's. Love your channel Mr Robinson and love Kristis take & the back & forth you two have. Keep it up.
Great stuff! Agree w kristi that they could add some better finish options. The RP series should get at least a couple more options than the more budget friendly reference series
100% AGREE!
Great video! When I was researching what speakers to get, the Polk R700 was a candidate with several others, also the Klipsch RP-8000 2. I went with the R700 and I'm not disappointed at all. The higher up Marantz SR series is a great combo with them (a bit cheaper now because new Cinema series), rich detailed sound and power for the money. They rumble my soul to life every day, and my neighbours! Thanks for the guidance!
Thanks for posting your reply. It's just what I was looking for, to see what I should pair the new SR6015 Marantz with.
I think I like more neutral sounding speakers, so Polk looks like the choice for me, even though my 64 year old mind still wants that old lively speaker style, the fatigue factor kicks in much sooner than the younger years.
@@royalway12 I don't think you will be disappointed. Everyone that has heard my sound get surprised with a big grin on their face, also a music producer wanted the same setup when he heard it. I now have the SR-7015 bi-amped to my R700's and it made a big improvement in depth and control. Give the R700's a couple months to soften up, I played on low volume so it took me 4-6 months for the sound to get deeper, punchier and more relaxed. Believe me when I say: you don't need a sub with these! I have a REL sub but only turn it on when watching movies on higher volumes. I like neutral sound too, and never needed to eq, pure-direct for music sounds wonderful in all genre's.
Another excellent review! I really appreciate the various comparisons.
Thanks for the review!
Really appreciate the excellent down to earth feedback on equipment. I have my eye set on the ML XT100s but want to listen to them first. I have also like the KEF R7 Meta's. I really appreciate how you emphasize your personal listening preferences and usage in your reviews. I really like the sound of the KEF speakers but would love to hear side by side comparison of the ML XT100S.
ALL THE BEST 👍
ANOTHER GREAT REVEIW...
Outstanding review Andrew and Kristi, been waiting for this since the RP-8000II came out, I was on the edge of my seat the whole video, If I'm being greedy, I'd love to know your take on these vs Monitor Audio Silver Gen 7, knowing you guys, I bet you'd love the Silver's finish on the Klipsch, also the first quarter of 2023 reviews are so far like spamming home runs.
Love you both.
As always, great review.
I bought my RP-8000F December 2020 after listening to your original review. I love them. Being retired with a fixed income, the price was right. I’m keeping my RP-8000F.
For music listening I set my Yamaha to Pure Direct, no sub. For 5.1 home theater, the Klipsch with the sub sure keep me happy.
So glad to know you are enjoying them! Thanks for watching, Rafael.
I have the klipsch rp-280fa which is a little older... hard to tell the difference!! All good sounding speakers
Andrew & Kristi, always great information, examples & knowledge. These are on my list!
I just wanted to say that this video convinced me to buy a pair. Kristi's reaction is what sold me. She's so straight to the point 😅.
I found an open box for less than $700. Thank you.
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I have been patiently waiting for this review. I am always thrilled when you give such a positive review of something that I own. It is a bonus that Kristi liked them so much. I have a pair of Forte I that I truly love for music, but I find myself more often switching back to the 8000F II for an all around listening experience. Thanks for what you do. Your channel is my reference. One more thing… please review the RSL Speedwoofer II. An insane value for a very good sub, but your opinion of it would carry a lot of weight.
Thanks so much for watching! We never want to disappoint anyone but we don't review subwoofers. Glad you found one you love though!
This review makes me happy to hear, b/c I get a sense from "HT community/other forums" that sometimes Klipsch is denigrated as unrefined or lacking something. You're telling me they knock it out of the park and I won't break my budget doing it, yay. I am literally weeks away from pulling trigger on the 6000f2's and hearing this review validates that I will be getting some great speakers and won't have regret. My HT/living room has a couple layout challenges, so I'm also happy the RPs can handle being moved around. (Will be used with a sub and Klipsch 500c2 center). Thank you, thank you!
I'm not sure why Klipsch gets a bad rap. Are they perfect? No (I can argue few, if any, speakers are). But the performance they provide at price they're sold for, they're very hard to beat.
Have just received my 8000 II. Wow i am blown away in my small room. Driving this whit Vincent 737 and Quad Artera. Both excellent choice for Klipsch RP8000R II. Thanks for your great feedback. I love my Klipsch. 🙏👍
So my best friend has the mark 1 and I have the mark2 I have listened to both at long lengths I bought them the day they came out they are amazing best speaker for the price I've ever heard love the Klipsch sound the original is great too but these are more defined and they sound to me like the highs are just right 👍 love your reviews buddy keep it up one of the best on RUclips for sure always on point 🤘
Thanks for sharing!
If you want a 2 channel or 5-7 channel home theater speaker I think these would be great, if you mainly play rock or electronica on a 2 channel system ditto. But after giving them a listen the polks sounded better all around to me. Not to mention the Klipsch always has that signature look, v smile sound and to my eyes sub par finish. I like Klipsch and have owned a couple pairs over the decades but this is no longer the 1980's at least give us some better finishes. Thank you guys for the great review as always 👍👍.
Was super happy to see this video. I've always been a Klipsch fan and purchased these last year in cherry finish along with the matching top end center & surrounds with a Klipsch 15 & 12". I listen to movies and music in Aura 3d and it's the bees knees. Love them! Still remember listening to different sets of speakers at Good Guys & Circuit City back in the day and always preferring the Klipsch sound.
Wow…you are both so good at what you do! Another great review👏👏👏
just waking up.. getting a cup of coffee and ready to settle in for some Sunday morning Andrew and Kristi.
Good morning Ace!
I would love to see a behind the scenes video of how you guys put together a review. Video of listening sessions, editing, B-roll filming, and how much work and time goes into a 20 minute review.
Great video! I have been waiting for you to finally review them for so long:) thank you thank you thank you! I’ve been into them ever since you reviewed mark 1 and now I am even more excited! Hopefully they will work well with my Marantz nr1711. All the best!
What speakers did you end up matching with the nr1711?
Always good information and opinions on this channel. Really like the video and audio quality on your videos .
I appreciate that!
WELL you guys have it easy and right on the money. For for me the R700s are just a fantastic speaker! That speaker is a stunning home run. But the slight warmer tilt makes everything I’ve heard make them some of the best. The 8000’s if you are in a theater type use are insanely fun. Do I want that year around? No. So there is only one answer that solves that problem, you have to buy both and get the best of both worlds. If you want an option for less, depending on the subwoofer you buy, Kristi nailed it. The Lumina two is a speaker that when you hear them, you will NOT forget. At 1200 bucks, you’d have to spend a lot more than that to replace that sound! Thanks Guys
Hey guys, loving this run of large versatile tower speaker reviews… two points; firstly, please talk more about low level listening ability of speakers like you did in this review… a lot of us are living in apartments or sharing town house walls with neighbors, low level listening is really important to us. Thank you, and secondly could you please, please try and review a pair of the Arendal 1723 THX speakers? I’m so about to pony up the coin for them, mostly based on Jay Iyagi’s review, but would really value your thought’s particularly in comparison to the RP8000, R700 and ML F100. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Dean, I hate to disappoint you but it's unlikely that we will review those. I'm sure they sound good as we enjoyed their 1961 series. As for the ones you've mentioned, easy decision bit.ly/3xgyXql
Hey man! Thank you for your recommendations and opinion, I had the exact budget for the KLIPSCH RP-8000F II, and since you made a great case for the tower speakers I bought them and I'm petty happy with my decision. Also, I hadn't considered an AV receiver instead of the common setup and you also convinced me that this was the best option so I got the Sony STR-AN1000. Thanks again Andrew, great stuff!
0:32 The way you've edited the grill removal there in a seemingly-uninterrupted shot was so cool!
I have the R700s and love them; also auditioned Klipsch before buying. My view is if you are a serious 2 channel (ie music) listener and have a high powered decent amplifier and large room, the R700s are the best. Klipsch are more sensitive and brighter so better for lesser amps and dialogue/movies and low volume listening (built in loudness!)
Yea that's what worries me, does it sound cold/metallic though?
@@MasterofPlay7 The Klipsch sound bright and forward with enhanced detail, not cold. They may be a bit tiring for prolonged listening. The Polks sound accurate and not as spectacular as the Klipsch, but excellent detail, midrange and bass and never tiring. Need more powerful amp than Klipsch though.
@@sydsacks9097 so dose it mean it includes all the hard edges like in the midrange or what you called dynamic? What about the top end? Does it have a tinkling/metallic feel?
@@sydsacks9097 yea I used to speakers that are more laid-back/ mellow, I found forwarded midrange kind of too analytical/digital sounding for my liking
@@sydsacks9097 how's the sound stage? Is it focused or more dispersed?
Great review! I have a pair of both the Klipsch RP-8000Fs and the Polk R700s playing through a Denon AVR-5803 along with a Polk sub & centre. I like the neutrality of the R700s and the punch of the RP-8000s. The blend of the two is heaven to my ears. My neighbours have no sense of humour. ;-) I'm thinking about either painting the R700s white or perhaps applying a pickled oak veneer and lighter cloth to visually shrink them. Cheers 🙂
Thanks I’ve been waiting for this video
Bang on , bought these 6 months ago love them. For daily listening I don't even need to turn the subs on .
I got the original rp8000f and have to say I’m very happy with them. I wanted the Gen 2 but at $500 each for the 1st Gen vs $750 each for Gen 2 I thought it was better spent on a better sun for the theater. I’m blown away with the first Gen towers. I’m sure the Gen 2s are better but I’m very happy with the first gens! The detail I can hear is amazing. They are very lively and can go LOUD without distortion of any kind. Love them for my theater.
Does it sound cold/metallic? People are saying they are bright and analytical
1 - 10 scale, how's the bass for klipsch 8000f? Will u feel the bass?
@@crispykid09 you thinking of buying them? I heard they are bright
@MasterofPlay7 Yes and what does bright mean? I'm new to this? Lol
@@crispykid09 they have decent bass but I use them in conjunction with 2 svs pb2000 pro subs which is a lot of bass haha
I have paired these with a NAD M33 and I use them as my party speakers. They are excellent. I tried out many other speakers including the Polk and I thought these were the best.
Couple years ago I was a classic Never Klipsch guy but out of the blue bought the Heresy IV’s . Best move I’ve made in this hobby. Yeah I still have Focals , LS/35a and many others. I’ll die with these Heresy’s.
Got these at holiday Black Friday pricing of $639 each (30% off) and have been incredibly thrilled. I upgraded from Elac Debut B5.2 bookshelves and really appreciate the dynamics and low level performance of the Klipsch. The Elacs need to be cranked up quite a bit before they come alive. At low listening volumes, the Elac are dynamically flat.
Happy Sunday. I was waiting for this review. I own the 6000f’s and love them. Yes I have a sub to compliment the bass and it is awesome. With a very slight toe in, these towers are great. I should have gotten the 8000f’s only for some added bass if I was not using a sub. The new crossover is more refined and should present music and movies better. Kristi I agree with you regarding Klispch finish options. I guess Klispch are taking baby steps with their finishes. If there is anyone they will listen to is, hopefully it will be you guys. 👍🏾
Good morning! Thanks for watching, Brian! Fingers crossed that one day we'll see something besides black and dark walnut in their non heritage lines.
I took the value plunge and got the 8060fa (atmos version of 8000s), and I LOVE THEM. To me for being my first home theater tower speaker, the mkII’s didn’t seem worth it in price for minor improvements (though I’m sure they were welcomed). The range, punch, and clarity of the 8060fa is outstanding. I would take the polks if I mainly listened to music, but for both music and movies I’ll stick with the Klipsch. Mine are paired with the OG rp504c and rp600m’s with a Sony STR-DN1080.
I have the older model klipsch rp-280fa and I love them!!!
You have great videos. I own the 5000 rp mark 2. Also have a SVS pb2000 pro. Decent pioneer amp. I’m very happy with my system and can’t wait to grow and buy better equipment. Thanks again!
Another great review! I couldn't agree with Kristi more about the Klipsch finish options. I wish they would offer something a little more upscale looking. However, I like that Andrew pointed out the overall fun factor. While I've never personally owned a Klipsch system, I also can't say I've ever met a Klipsch owner who didn't smile from ear to ear when describing their system.
On another note, I hope that MRX740 review is up next!!
I just bought the RP-8060FA’s last week. Connected to my Marantz Cinema 60 and my Emotiva XPA2 Gen 2, I can honestly say that I’m blown away by the clarity, low-end presence, and imaging of the Klipsch. Although I do use a monolith sub for my Atmos configuration, I prefer to use the Pure Direct mode option and bypass the sub and additional processing for music. I was using B&W 602s2’s for the last 20 years, so I’m obviously blown away with these floorstanders. If Klipsch actually made noticeable improvements with the Gen II’s over my now beloved Gen I 8060 (8000F), may God bless them. LOL I can’t imagine anything sounding better at this price-point!
there's a clips of the 8000 vs 8000 II. they both sound good in different ways, depends what sound you're looking for.
@@MetalsForBrunch which one is less bright? I'm worried about ear fatigue.
@@traviswieser The 8000 gen I is overall warmer sounding with a darker tone in the voice. 8000 Gen II is more V shaped the mid and vocals are clearer but are somewhat bright / with a boosted bass on low end. I get more fatigue listening to V shaped sound. search for rp 8000 vs rp 8000 II on youtube and you will hear the difference.
@@MetalsForBrunch thanks for the info!!
I have the 8000f mk1 and I am really happy with them. I managed to get them a year ago 30% cheaper than the current mk2 asking price. Currently not interested in upgrading and tbh I don't regret buying mk1 as I really love them
I bought my mk 1 for $958 for the pair over 2 years ago and love them. Considering you can buy the walnut finish today for $999 at Amazon, I think they are a great buy. Like you I have no interest in upgrading. Enjoy!
Good day to you both. I am not in the market for new speakers however, I enjoyed your assessment of this speaker just the same. I (like many of those in the comments) own an older pair of Klipsch RF7's and I STILL love them. I have had them for at least 20 years, and they sound better each year. I've updated the electronics around them and that breathed a new life into them that's very exciting to me! I fiercely disagree with those who say that ALL Klipsch speakers sound exactly the same! NOT UH!! Anyway...... the review was very evenhanded and fair. Well done!!
I recently purchased both the RP-600 ll and the RP-8000F ll, so I am using money to vote for my favorites. Both were purchased as Black Friday specials and I am over the Moon with the value proposition.
Dang, I just love kliplch. The looks distinctive sound will always be a kliplch fan 😊 you both )) ...
Good to see you! Thanks for watching.
I have the rp-8000f original with the gr-research crossover upgrade and they took the originals to the next level. The cymbals which were muted now sparkle. I can't wait to hear the rp-8000II's to hear the comparison. From what I read and hear from excellent reviews such as this one the 2's are phenomenal right from the factory.
I have 2 sets of the original ones. I would love to hear about said crossover... did it completely replace the stock one?
@@roccofilippi1418 Yeah he completely replaces the network, converts it to a 2.5-way speaker, and flattens out the response. I think the kit also has you completely replace the cabinet damping material. It’s pretty expensive, but if you’ve already got the speakers, it’s definitely cheaper than replacing them. I thought about doing the upgrade to my 280f towers, but I decided to replace them in the end.
Might consider! Great video
I started watching your videos to see what you thought about some speakers I was looking at. You said they were basically Crap.. I don't know enough to know any better so.... I just kept watching your videos. Then I saw this one. And I have just placed an order for these. Thank you for the time you took to talk about them. I like Klipsh and have owned some of there cheaper speakers. Im Excited. Thanks for taking the time to review these so deeply.
Oh my #$$#!@, you guys are soo good. Sorry just had to comment, you guys are so much better than anybody else at Hifi reviews, it's not even close!!! So thorough, so relevant, just muh!!!!
What a sweet comment. Thank you, John!!
I agree John. These two are my go to and Andrew has definitely helped me on this hifi journey. Great team!
With the RP-8000F being over twice as sensitive as the R700, the Klipsch will also work better with lower powered tube amps for more those that have tubes or may want to have that option.
Klipsch being a 2 way, Polk - 3 way. Hard to make a choice (not)
Hello from Ireland.
I waited many years to be in a position to afford to get into the AV world. I had fallen in love with the signature copper on black Klipsch look many years ago.
Being completely new to all this, your video on the 8000F Mk1 convinced me to purchase early last year, and I love them. Unfortunately, the 2's came out not long after I purchased.
However, in keeping with your motto "the only person who has to like the sound of your system is you", and I have no interest in chasing the dragon, I will not be running out to upgrade.
I now have the RF7III's and RC64III up front and the 8000's are now my rear surrounds with 6000F's on the sides.
For now everything is running on a Denon AVC X8500HA.
Would something like an Emotiva XPA DR3 for the LCR be of any benefit. From what I read, the RF7's and RC64, while very sensitive, seem to do better with more power. Any thoughts?
Many thanks for a for all you hard work.
Thank you for your consistently entertaining reviews. How do you guys feel, long term, about your KLH 5’s? They are SO good that I always wonder why I don’t hear comparisons with them. I bought mine a couple years ago partly based on your review, and I’m so glad I did - wonderful speakers. Thanks!
I’d like to know that as well. I’m trying to decide between KLH 5’s and the RP 8000f ii’s. I’m primarily a jazz listener(Miles Davis, Coltrane,etc) and do 50/50 with home theater in our medium size room. Love the fun/live sound of Klipsch, but wish they had better center dispersion…
I haven’t heard the Mk2 yet, but I’ve had the Mk1 in my house for a while before. They’re a great speaker, and the value is unbeatable. It’s not my type of speaker, it’s too big for my room, and I very much am a 3-way speaker kinda guy. That being said, it’s still an awesome piece and if Mk2 is this much better, I think they’ve got a value king right there. Maybe more brands should really take note, rather then accuse Klipsch of some witchcraft and stuff. Awesome conversation at the end and video as usual!
I got the 8000f's about 3 months before they released the new RP line and I felt like if I'd known they were coming out I would have waited, and started feeling like I was missing out on the new and now I'm stuck with the old. But when you did the review on the 600m Il you said something like you wouldn't just get rid of the previous gen just yet, there's not a night and day difference between the two and because I also have the RP 600 it made me feel a little better and when I added the basX 3 to the 8000's I now feel satisfied with my purchase and can live with them for now. Even after looking at the review of the 8000 Il, I got a little spark of upgradeitis, I think I'm ok for now with my previous RP line. Thanks for the review, I'm always looking forward for the next one.
Same here, got mine in March 2022
If you close your eyes you won't know the difference!!!!!
I have the klipsch rp-280fa and can't tell the difference.......
Hello, Andrew and Kristi. Good morning.
I have just purchased a pair of Kliptch R-820 F. I've always wanted a pair of Kliptch. Can't wait to hear them through my SX 950 or 1050, but I expect they will perform as I think they would. Thanks for the channel.
Thanks! That answers my question as to my RP-280FA's as that is the first in this line and they have improved and refined a lot since. Oh well, have to save up my disposable for a new pair. I pick these by the bye as I have 11 speakers I am driving without separates so they have to be easy!
Morning, Lonnie!
I love my klipsch RP-280FA not sure if you really notice that much of a difference all very good speakers for the price...
Would you consider anything from Emotiva or SVS as a choice to keep on your list when shopping for towers compared to the 8000f ii? Would love to give these a listen in person based on this review. I like Klipsch's path of minor improvements rather than sweeping changes.
😆😆 @ the frequency response zoom in zoom out joke. As for the QOTD, even though I haven't heard either, I'd probably vote for the Polk R700 and here's why. The Klipsch are fantastic, but after owning Klipsch myself the comparison I would make is this....the Klipsch are like the hot date you are looking forward to going out on when you're first together, honeymoon phase of the relationship. The Polk R700 is the one you settle down with, want to live day to day with, and spend your life with. The Klipsch sound is SO FUN, but I find my ears a little tired after about an hour. With the rolled off tweeter, the Polk I imagine is going to have me keep pressing play on my music longer so I'd give it the nod. 👍 Great video!
Appreciate you weighing in and you're not wrong about the longevity and ease of the Polk listening experience. In our room though, the Klipsch aren't as bad or as bright as they may be in others. Toe-in and distance to the speaker do play a role in the "brightness" factor.
Nice test!
Great Video quality as usual 😊
thanks!
I own the prior version in the home theater. I use them for 2-channel as well. I bought the pair for just over $1000. They are awesome and I will not be changing them out. In my audio room, I have Klipsch Epic CF-2's I picked up near mint at an estate sale for $100. Several times over the last few years, I have been going to replace these. Every time I get close, I realize I love their sound with my gear. With that said, I am pretty sure I will pull the trigger on the new Martin Logans.
Been a klipsch fanboy since i picked up a pair of r820f. Holiday sale, felt like i stole em! Budget speaker that sounds great for its class. Went a little crazy, and now my 9.2 hometheater is all klipsch.
Nice!
I also got a holiday deal on my r620fs and also my Jamo 803 HCS - 5 speaker set (highly reviewed by Andrew, currently $169.95) is still an awesome budget home theater system that I still love for my small house.
I am running the RF-83's with the matching center and surrounds and an SVS sub connected to an Integra pre-amp and outlaw audio seven channel 200W Per Channel amplifier.
I have been running them for close to ten years and they still sound fantastic.
Yes my system is old.
As the anchors in my 7.4.4 home theater, I completely agree with your descriptors for movie use. The new gen Reference Premier line ALL DAY!! Dynamic, Lively....and with the usual 80hz xover point, excellent upper bass performance. I too was on the fence with these vs the Polk R700, and for my application, the sonic attributes of the 8000F II were the deciding factors. Who wants neutrality in a home theater anyways?! 😜 I would recommend the RP-504C II center if you can accommodate its size.... and queuing up John Wick to test it all out.
Thanks for the tip!
Yet another awesome video👏 I always enjoy the fantastic mix of geeky, professional and down to earth reviews you guys make :) I got myself a pair of these for Xmas and are looking for something not too expensive to drive them. I have been thinking about Denon DRA800H since I don't feel the need for surround. Do you have any thoughts on how this receiver would do with the 8000F II ?
Best regards Stian
I built a 5.2.2 system of all klipsch with these as the main towers. Got the 502c mark 2 center and the rp600m mark2 as rear surrounds. Dual klipsch 12 inch subs and klipsch atmos speakers mounted high above tv facing down.
I love this system. Last night in a movie , people landed on the roof above the actor and I actually looked up thinking people were on my roof.
When I first hooked them up I was listening to music and I thought I left the subwoofer on so I went over to turn it off and it was unplugged. All that rich bass was coming from these two towers. I love them.
My father has a pair of the la scalas and the heresy’s which are not in my budget so I suppose we are a klipsch family. Lol