@Necroglobule I have been complaining about this on other videos myself. Advancement of Tech results in smaller ships, not bigger. Bigger is only useful for current tech. A US Destroyer of today would blow a US Battleship of WW2 out of the water in minutes.
@@swirvinbirds1971 the last BB in service was upgraded with anti-missile systems, the Destroyer would need a lot of missiles to get through that as their cannons aren't going cut it.
I love that the designer gave some props to Janeway and 7 of 9! Those are 2 of my very favorite characters. I know everyone hated voyager but I really thought those 2 ladies were awesome! So thankyou for mentioning their expertise with the Borg!!
It wasn't the Defiant that came across that super heavy Jem'Hadar Battleship it was a Defiant class ship filled with very arrogant cadets called the Valiant.
The design is completely different from anything in star fleet. However the more I look at it the more it grows on me. I would love to see this ship could do in battle.
Matt Nourie Indeed. I thought the exact same thing of Voyager; of Prometheus; of Steamrunner; of Akira and Norway classes. I was definitely going for something a little different.
Very cool design!! I love how your show has inspired millions of 3d designers worldwide to design ships! That and Turbosquid gives a little motivation as well! If all the ships designed by hobbyists and career 3D professionals alike became reality, the Milky Way would be a very crowded, high traffic galaxy! Sweet! Has Akira class style nacelles too!
this is a remarkable design, like something Starfleet would build following the Dominion wars. this ship is practice as well as a needed design. I could reimagine this ship possible being the model for the Enterprise H. it would fit right there in with the past Enterprises. job well done, keep up the great work.
Comparison to Romulan Warbird and Enterprise-E (images I got from Trekyards, so those two are not my 3D creations). isfj1009.deviantart.com/art/Warbird-Comparison-669427474
Alex Neff Agreed! I really appreciated the Arizona being honoured in this way and I hope they do more of it the future! Rather than naming ships after the enemies of freedom...(Yamoto).
At 12:00 in the video when they were talking about the pulse cannons, another battleship that the federation used in the 23rd century, the proxima class used 2 banks of pulse phasers for broadside action.
The impulse engines look awesome to me. They just plain look great from the rear (the only view I had as I scanned quickly through the video), and also look like they'd make the ship extremely maneuverable for its size. I mean that it looks like it'd probably out-maneuver ships even much smaller than itself =)
I know this particular ship gets a lot of hate, but I actually like it, it's an interesting concept. There's not that many larger Federation ships that are primarily warships, as compared to most that are science & exploration, so it's cool to see a ship with more of a bad-ass section 31 kind of vibe, you know?
Well like you guys stated about Saucer Separation, the 4 impulse engines make sense right. I'm also wondering on the way these 2 top Warp Necelles are anchored to the ship, do they separate with the Saucer section?
Ari.... Arizo.... Arizona class battleship?! Immediate like! The USS Arizona was my favorite battleship/super-dreadnought from that period. so nice to know there is a fan model of the same name :D
Oh right and I think the impulse engines are bang-on. If there is a higher res render incoming - might I suggest adding some dynamism there with some tonal changes in the color. or like a heat wave effect internally. But I like the shape, position and beefyness of it. The turrets as adapted from Akira classes are great and makes sense if starfleet needed to cut development cost/time and scaled them down and just used an extant design. They'd use whatever they could off the shelf for a ship this large. How many warp cores does this thing have? I'd guess no less than two - but as high as four or even five to generate enough power for each nacelle and/or slipstream? The Phasic Cloak is great from a certain standpoint but it would require a huge strategic change at starfleet and Riker's dead body for that to happen. Or they classify its existence on the ship at roughtly Omega Level so only the captain knows about it - not even the tactical officer without a proper briefing and super emergency need for it. This is a ship that would scare the piss out of whatever remains of the Romulan Star Empire even if it is a Borg Killer - with no more Borg in the prime timeline...well - now its a direct counter to anything in the Typhon Pact. With slipstream that sucker can be anywhere in the Federation - so perhaps it even maintains station cloaked all the time so they can hide their asset - and only decloaks for use in war or a similar level of urgency.
hey trekyards i just found yer channel and enjoyed the discussion and since the topic was about a federation BB i was wondering if u would talk about the ships in star trek star fleet command 2 as they also had a BB there
would be cool to see one or two defiant class ships come out of a ship that big. or even a separation with a Voyager class under the saucer section. like if your that big maybe a mobile star base for ship repairs.
@22:11 it looks like there really are two blue shapes around the main deflector, and the blue lights seen from the front aren't just reflections of the nacelles' blue light. Are those secondary deflector arrays?
Definitely a ship meant for flag officers. The tonnage alone makes it a potential weapon of mass destruction. If it holds true to battleship doctrine (have big ass guns on a big ass ship) you would need someone with the military authority of a flag officer (commodore, admiral, etc.) to validate any use of force.
I love this ship! If the defiant is the federations pimp hand, this is the federations 50cal lol! My only suggestion & it’s just because I wonder if it would look meaner ;) change the saucer to the voyager sovereign shape you already have but ad the nova class nose and then reduce the height of the ship (fewer decks flatter sharper edges)
Hi. Yeah. I hear ya. One of the parameters was to make it not too "threatening" during non-battle conditions. Hence, the torpedo pods that can be retracted and out of view when not under battle conditions.
@@isfj1009 it’s a beauty either way! My idea was simply a personal pref. I. Agree this look is def more traditional federation design. I still wouldn’t mind seeing the aggressive look idea on it though simply cause I imagine the aggressive one being something the federation would assign to worf as a sector flagship on the klingon border maybe since they’d respect a fearsome looking ship ☺️ or one run entirely by federation security as tactical response vessel to threats but no matter what though this ship as is even deserves to be cannon and in a episode at the very least! The designer did incredible work!
good lord, that beast is massive! it's more than twice the length of a Sovereign-class! that's insane! I can't fathom that kind of size....my brain is not that imaginative. :-)
what kind of seperation can she do? upper hull and lower hull come apart and both take their own set of nacelles. i could also see the bridge section coming off with the weapons turrets as a third section. I love the brod arrow head shape of the saucer and the pointed arro head shap of the bridge section.
I could definitely see these as "Last Resort" ships, where Starfleet could build a fleet of these and send them off in every direction if the Federation is ever invaded or lost.
Guys, in the aft view, there are 'doors' between the lower shuttlebay & the upper shuttlebay (visually)! & In the bottom view it looks like there are 2 large 'doors' too! Between the 2 lower warp nacelles!
Delta Flyer type two is Tom Paris edition It has fins like a 57 chevy and flames painted on the sides. And lets not forget the pin up Klingon girl sitting on a torpedo
Just goes to show you, even in star trek, you can find a ship class you never heard of before. I know most ships in star fleet but this one is entirely new to me.
I would have put 4 of the slightly smaller retractable turrets on the underside of the saucer (same smaller turrets on the dorsal aft area) and two ventral phase strips on the secondary hull (like the sovereign class's 1 ventral phase strip). With such a huge ship it would be easy to stay underneath firing upwards whilst only having to deal with two ventral phase strips. That's quite a weakness. You would want to put them on the underside of the saucer because moving them aft on the secondary hull would make them an obstacle for launching fighters to overcome.
Could be my imagination, but shape of ships hull aft almost looks like the warp engines retract against the hull in battle to protect them from damage and reduce the shield profile. What is your thoughts ??
A fun design. I like it. I also like the idea of the turrets. though I agree with the captain the I would have the drop down into the hull. It's not like it's hurting for interior space lol. I've always said that Starfleet needs to have it's own dedicated combat force. Just have it in reserve so it doesn't get mistaken as the face or intent of the Federation. A fleet for each major area. Have it act as a training platform for Starfleet personel. They cycle through to update and recertify. As well as mock battles for training their non combat oriented ships. A ship like this would be like a mobile starbase doubling for a traning facility. Then when the next over powered villian shows up. The nearest combat fleet rolls in to the fight.
MrPingn Indeed. My second (final) rendition added a turret on each side of the bridge section, just aft of the registry. As well as several placements on the ventral side of both the primary and secondary hulls.
Is there a website where you can design your own star trek ship?. I have been working on a few shuttle/runabout bomber designs that I think would look well with the new era of starships people like designing
The front view reminds me of a saucer from 'V'.. now there is an idea for an episode... they have nice shuttles too - in case you ever decide to have a FLEETYARDS shuttle Month or something like that.
90 Lancaster yes their shuttles were very modular like on space:1999. They were everything from long transports/cargo ships to fighters with one basic design; very cool!
It looked like you could possibly dock 1-2 Defiant-class ships between the nacelles, which would allow for an escort to piggyback the quantum slipstream. Which would be almost mandatory for a ship this size, especially one built for battle. Just a thought.
Besides from the shape of the forward section of the saucer, and the nacelles, I think this a very impressive ship. A ship I'd like to be canon, or at the very least Star Trek Online, so I could command it.
This frame style seems like it would be suited solely for troop transport and insertion in a Dominion War Scenario. Large space for troop housing and training, with power dedicated to large transporter capacity. Inserting a force of thousands of Starfleet or allied troops on a planet like Batazed. Maybe inclue ablative armor for survivability while troop transporting is occurring. The extra warp nacelles would be good for survivability, because while one can build new starships, you cannot clone new troops.
the perspective of the picture from the aft looks off to me..not sure what it is about it but it looks like the left aft impulse engine is tilted up and the right aft one is tilted down. Not sure if that is due to shading or what.. it could just be me though over all seems like a neat ship
Those nacelles make me think this is another attempt at a different species faking a Federation design, like the Voyager episode with the slipstream ship. Addon: Pulse Phaser Cannons could, in theory, randomize their energy frequency to compensate for Borg adaptation with each pulse. This would effectively make them ideal for fighting Borg.
I *really* need to finish my "Timberwolf Class" design... Just gotta figure out how to smooth out the surfaces and give it some actual hull textures... ~JD
alright gentlemen I have been a long time watcher but stupidly only a recent subscriber you guys are very informative and great to watch now I have a couple of trek mods for sins of a solar empire and I think this would be a fantastic applicant of the role of a titan
At that size... pretty sure a defiant class can fit in the lower hangar, and since the defiant has a history with cloak, it could make a nice combat surprise (i mean it is a battle ship) Some suggestions, if i may: 1. Add 3 individual warp cores. One as a general purpose. One dedicated for weapons (as a battleship should be). One smaller, as a redundancy, also to power some (special) auxiliary features. 2. Add a feature/section to produce/construct any type of torpedo and another feature/module to be able to mine & refine (not only) dilithium on the fly. 2a. I imagine the construction of this ship eats up a lot of resources to build (materials, time, personnel, multiple shipyards in tandem, etc). 2b.The federation is a peace faring thingy. This ship has the excuse of coming into existence due to borg, species 8472, etc. This being said, due to the nature of federations diplomatic tensions (that this purely war ship must bring) +2.a.+2.b there should only ever exist 1 to 3 ships of this kind at any given time. 2c. >conclusion> In order to be able to fly from war zone to war zone this ship should be able to mine any resource needed in order to, and be able to, construct its own armament. 3. In war there is no place for children. This should never have the feature of being a generational ship. 4. (^Iwo Jima class^) The standard crew complement should be supplemented by at least 4-600 close quarters combat crew and maybe some combat drones (for hazard zone combat) plus multiple boarding pods. This should give the ship the capability, for example, to resist being boarded by multiple borg cubes at the same time, or, as another example, board and take over even those enormous borg hypercubes.
The saucer should have fewer/smaller windows, and more forward weapons emplacements. The hull plating should also look more like an ablative armor, and not the Galaxy class explodium.
Thanks! Final version does have fewer windows on the saucer. 48 torpedo launchers JUST on the saucer (weapon pods). Multiple phaser arrays on the weapon pods. And the large dorsal and ventral saucer phaser arrays are segmented, allowing for simultaneous phaser fire from the arrays.
This hull would make the most awsome science vessel. Or a colony ship. A huge scientific/diplomatic long range deep space vessel. It could hold whole familes for ong range missions and such.
Correct me if I am crazy, but: 1. Given what this ship IS, it should never see a civilization we don't want to kill. 2. Are the pulse phasers not built to defend against shuttlecraft and drones?
I agree, the turrets would be retractable and would be retracted most of the time; producing a 'less aggressive' appearance, visually. And given the ship's size ... yes, I would expect each turret to have it's own torpedo magazine and phaser- power generators (at least as a back-up, to provide redundancy in case of large- scale damage); the large size also allow for a sizable 'Captain's Excursion Craft' (I've never liked using the term 'yacht' for the Captain's personal craft.), some- thing as big as the Defiant (or nearly so), allowing the C.O. to make an 'excursion', and bring along both staff *and* a protective detail, if needed. I would like to point out that with a ship *this* big, with all *these* capabilities, & a crew complement of *2500(+/-)* ... the Commanding Officer would be at least a Fleet Captain, and more likely a Commodore! This level of rank would justify making the Excursion Craft a full-featured and fully-capable small starship. Also, an Excursion Craft that big would allow having a large enough Briefing/Conference Room to allow it to also suffice as a 'Greeting Hall' for Diplomatic Meetings & the like.
Yup. Weapon pods are retractable; each has it's own supply of torpedoes; each has it's own power distribution nodes (PDNs) for supplemental as well as emergency power. "Captain's Yacht" is an Arrow Class shuttle. Standard compliment is (6).
Sorry, this is the kind of vessel that would lead a 10+ year deep, space, exploratory mission, possibly for leaving the Milky Way galaxy based on size and overall capability
Hmmmm kooks like those bits from the Akira are not actually torpedo launchers, but giant speakers for when the Federation throws a massive recruiting rave.
LOL! I have addressed some of the, issues discussed here; "pointy-oddly curved front tip"; engines; shuttle bays; deployable weapons pods. (fyi, pulse-phasers are more powerful. If made into a solid beam, would burn out the emitters quickly...kinda like the WoK Mega-Phasers)
That to me screams highly mobile insanely fast battle ready space Station not so much exploratory ship more exploratory space station. This is the time of the soul.
It definitely has its good points. I agree. The nacelles could be a little better size proportioned and sleeker but my biggest critique is technical. The warp field emitters on the nacelles are facing the wrong way. According to the STTNG tech manual, the warp field can do considerable damage to matter the closer it is to the emitters. Otherwise, it's a sound design.
Fun design. My only nit IMO is the nacelles seem too squared off (for me). But like all battleships, too valuable (expensive) to lose. Maybe it travels with a battle group for protection.
Am I the only one who would want to see a Terran Empire version of this ship with less windows and weapons in every feasible place, especially the long flat hull section, which could feasibly have more turrets or phaser strops, and the saucer section is thick enough to have at least twice as many strips as it has now.Also, those nacelles need some kind of retractable armor that folds in and exposes the nacelles when jumping to warp, but covers them in combat. Because the 10:55 top view shows just how exposed the actual nacelles are.
Darkly Mirror version. BAM!!!! As far as shielding / exposed nacelles goes, the ship is protected with a shield technology that is an amalgam of Borg tech (a la Seven of Nine) and Cytherian tech ("Nth Degree"). Each of the nacelles even has their own set of shield emitters.
50 years would be far too long. For better or worse, something like this would exist probably no more than 10 years after the end of The Dominion War, since while the Dominion was contained, it was by no means defeated. At some point in the Star Trek Universe, there would assuredly be a Second Dominion War...even if the Founders had to sacrifice countless Jem'Hadar to acquire trans-warp technologies so they could invade the Alpha Quadrant by means other than the Bajoran Wormhole.
Wow that is huge although just smaller than an Imperial Class Star Destroyer (1,600m) Would take on a Borg Tactical Cube with relative ease at that size. Wonder what is it's mission though? Borg are dead but the Typhon Pact is causing utter chaos. And yep Babylon 5 reference also came to mind.
Why do people assume Borg are all dead everywhere? Seven stated that the Nexus-hub-space station thingy that they destroyed tn the last ST:Voy episode was one of seven in the entire galaxy. What i took from the episode was that the explosion ruptured the trans-warp conduits leading to the Alpha Quadrant. I assume that the collective are spread heavily through other parts of the galaxy and are creating pathways back toward the alpha quadrant immediately following the events of Voyager
Correct. But that's just one threat species to the Federation and its allies. And I did want to stay as close to canon as possible. Thought of going way of STO, but that woulda been too much of a departure from canon for me.
I like the nacelles , they look like they are made for brute force instead of looking pretty. The shuttle bay seems like it should go as deep as the secondary hull allows. I could imagine 20-25 deep and 3 rows of smaller shuttles. Less on the top 2 that could be almost in-battle shuttles, like rescue or assistance of other ships being fired on. Think tug boats with self defense capability. I personally want to see more ships with more windows, I know it would help me mentally and could help with stress, otherwise you are sleeping and living in a steel cage which can get to you after a while.
I like the overall design a lot. The nacelles not so much. It's a great concept. Mobile star base that can kick ass. It could also serve as a transport for fighters even small shops that need protection until they are deployed. I do however think the warp 9.9 speed is not viable on such a large ship.
good day Captain Foley. the pulse phasers to my understanding is both for concentrated compressed energy as well as for kinetic impact. think like a Mac gun from Halo except instead of a kiloton slug you got this compressed energy acting like in hammer so it's more like a double impact.
the other thing I wanted to mention is that the smaller impulse engines is probably for the secondary hell and the larger ones is for the Primary hell.
Phasing selective areas to deploy or recover shuttles/fighters or even gather the smaller ships and then phase the ship around them would be a very insane but useful maneuver. Phasing would also help counter the kinetic cutting beam the Borg use. Torpedoes could also just go through the ship and perhaps even modifying the phasing cloak to temporarily phase cloak torpedoes and or auxiliary craft. I am thinking this is a few generations behind the Enterprise J but it is in the same vein although cooler than that monster.
the pylons are too close to the ship,I know the Defiant but this ship is too large to use the radiation shielding used by the defiant that was one of the reasons the defiant was small. I like that the one set of warp nacelle is attached to the primary hull and a second set is attached to the engineering or battle section. The size of the impulse engines would indicate that the primary is much larger as far as mass and would need the larger engines. The engineering/battle section impulse engines are smaller because the push a smaller mass. The placement of the warp and impulse engines tells you that the ship splits. How and where does the ship split?
@@isfj1009 What program do you use for it ? I use Solidworks for product design( my job) , but I never had much succes using it for modelling star ships as it isn't really a graphic design program. I'm interested what you use.
Pulse phasers hit harder than a beam because it's delivering the same kinetic yield consistently vs a bleed effect with a sustained beam. Beam phasers are less punchy, but you can get more accurate with them.
I love it. Finally a proper Federation Battleship. That thing's almost the size of a Star Destroyer! More proof Janeway is evil. edit> you could probably park a Miranda-Class in that lower hangar.
This is a cool design, I kinda like the idea of a Starfleet Battleship, though the only thing I don't like is the Phaser Turrets/Akira Weapon pods. Either the turrets need to be bigger or there need to be more of them, additionally, I think it would look better if the designer turned the torpedo launchers into a turrets, whether incorporating them into the the Phaser turrets, or even giving them their own turrets. Anyways great video as always.
The bow is clearly curved the way it is to reference the real USS Arizona. Having 4 Nacelles makes sense if it affects power and redundancy which are both useful in a Battle Ship design but too boxy in my opinion.
The size is also a necessity for the Graviton Jumpdrive. Similar to the Warp scale; larger graviton distortions require larger nacelles to produce them.
The saucer definitely needs a bit of work. I'd even be happy if the saucer had the same shape as the E. Especially, when you see both ships side-by-side. Regardless, this is a really cool design!
I'm not sure the crew compliment for this beast is right. The Sovereign Class was 685m and sported a standard crew of 855, with nearly 10,000 being the max that could be carried on board in an emergency. This Arizona Class is slightly bigger than double the size at 2.26 which looks about right to me on the scale. So I would honestly say the bridge on the Arizona Class would like actually have a very different design than the Sovereign Class. In fact it would not surprise me that as a warship if it had one of the if not the only multi individual tactical station in Star Fleet. With a weapon compliment going from 16 type-XII phaser arrays and 10 torpedo launchers to 22 type XIII phaser arrays, 8 torpedo pods (which someone says is like 90 launchers), and pulse phase quad cannons mounted in 5 turrets. That is an insane increase in fire power. So yeah tactical on this ships bridge I could see having 3-5 crew members at all times, with 1 monitor power to defensive systems and tending to it while another handles weapons and another handles shields and others handling ship security. (This is also assuming the pulse cannon turrets are individually controlled by the weapons crew in the turrets) This is all mostly because the more tactical stations and crew manning them the more targets can be engaged simultaneously. And then there is the carrier role, so far I haven't even mentioned anyone being in charge of coordinating the fighters. So yeah, I can see this ship possibly having more "crew" than what was suggest. I'm seeing roughly 1,932 standard crew. That's all your engineers, command, science, and medical the people that would in laymen terms be the sailors. After them you have the pilots, which whatever your hanger space is you should assume 2 per fighter or other type of crafts. That's a number that isn't defined in the video so it would be figures as 100+ (figuring at least 50 shuttle sized craft which is 2.5x as many as the Sovereign carries). And while on the subject of the hanger I'm not sure about the guys that were reviewing it but to me it very much did look like the lower hanger was a two story hanger, but empty of any craft. Which made me think it would be interesting if the fighters and shuttles are actually kept below deck and are brought in to be launched via elevators or large industrial transporters from a more secured hanger bay on the deck beneath the hanger itself like what an aircraft carrier has and does.Back on crew topic though. Last we have one more section needed, the security crew. Which I feel should be divided into 2 duties weapons officers and marines. The weapons officers would be the crew that man all those weapon systems and keep them working smoothly. So I'm figuring you are probably looking at another 500 crew right there. As for the marine compliment they serve as general security and mostly handle anything that involves phasering other individuals on or off ship. There could easily be 2000 of them because this is a warship, it is meant to fight and as they mentioned it very likely doesn't get out much unless that is it's purpose. At 2.26 times the sovereign's size you could expect it to have enough space to in an emergency max out at 22,000 people on board. However given the ships purpose and the design it would have to fulfill it that would be taking up space I would place the max compliment it could carry to be more like 15,000 or so. So the total crew that would normally be on board would be around 4,332-4,650 with additional free space allocated for carrying 6,000-8,000 troops for ground invasions during war time.
I have had something like this in mind for a while now but do not have the skills to model it. The one comment was right it needs had at least one defiant class ship.
I get a distinct "my ship is the biggest and baddest and it has a phase cloak and goes warp 15 and has flames painted on the side" etc feel.
I've always loved small, efficient ships for that reason.
@Necroglobule I have been complaining about this on other videos myself.
Advancement of Tech results in smaller ships, not bigger. Bigger is only useful for current tech.
A US Destroyer of today would blow a US Battleship of WW2 out of the water in minutes.
@@swirvinbirds1971 the last BB in service was upgraded with anti-missile systems, the Destroyer would need a lot of missiles to get through that as their cannons aren't going cut it.
that was the Future Enterprise, not this thing.
@@swirvinbirds1971 actually no lol. In the real world. A battleship is a battleship and a destroyer is a destroyer.
I love that the designer gave some props to Janeway and 7 of 9! Those are 2 of my very favorite characters. I know everyone hated voyager but I really thought those 2 ladies were awesome! So thankyou for mentioning their expertise with the Borg!!
Love it, massive! Looks like a arrow head from the top.
Defiant Class Captain's Yacht.
That would be cool.
It wasn't the Defiant that came across that super heavy Jem'Hadar Battleship it was a Defiant class ship filled with very arrogant cadets called the Valiant.
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He-ey good thing I went through the comments before I mentioned this too.
This is a georgously bad ass ship I wish it were available in Star Trek Online it is truly an amazing design he should be commended.
James Crandall Thanks!
@@isfj1009 I wish this ship along with the theurgy class dreadnought were available for STO
Dreadnaught class: who are you?
Arizona class: I'm you but stronger
This beast of a ship is meant to bring the pain! I like it.
This looks like what Starfleet would build if they went to war with the Galactic Empire. It is a little larger then an Imperial Star Destroyer.
This ship taking out a few Imperial Star Destroyers would be the perfect poetic revenge for it's namesake.
That would be a serious federation statement. Super Dreadnought. Can't wait to see it in battle 😁.
Federation example of a battel star. Just way more impressive 💪
I would love to see it in battle!
This ship is something no enemy wants to see. Whale!! Yes I agree the Killer Whale of Starfleet!! It's a great looking ship. Wonderful design.
Thanks! USS Orca?
The design is completely different from anything in star fleet. However the more I look at it the more it grows on me. I would love to see this ship could do in battle.
Matt Nourie Indeed. I thought the exact same thing of Voyager; of Prometheus; of Steamrunner; of Akira and Norway classes. I was definitely going for something a little different.
The saucer hits me 2 ways. 1) Mothership from V. 2) Upper section of Spacedock/Starbase.
Very cool design!! I love how your show has inspired millions of 3d designers worldwide to design ships! That and Turbosquid gives a little motivation as well! If all the ships designed by hobbyists and career 3D professionals alike became reality, the Milky Way would be a very crowded, high traffic galaxy!
Sweet! Has Akira class style nacelles too!
this is a remarkable design, like something Starfleet would build following the Dominion wars. this ship is practice as well as a needed design. I could reimagine this ship possible being the model for the Enterprise H. it would fit right there in with the past Enterprises. job well done, keep up the great work.
They should have done a Side-by-side with a borg cube. That way we have context in terms of that.
Joseph Marsh well, it's about the size of a Warbird in length.
My monkey brain just needs a pretty picture to comprehend size.
Joseph Marsh On vaycay right now. I'll post the pic when I get back home.
Comparison to Romulan Warbird and Enterprise-E (images I got from Trekyards, so those two are not my 3D creations).
isfj1009.deviantart.com/art/Warbird-Comparison-669427474
Nice! Also I really like the Timmerman designe! Did you make that one?
I love it and thanks for the acknowledgement of BB-39 USS Arizona!
Alex Neff Agreed! I really appreciated the Arizona being honoured in this way and I hope they do more of it the future! Rather than naming ships after the enemies of freedom...(Yamoto).
At 12:00 in the video when they were talking about the pulse cannons, another battleship that the federation used in the 23rd century, the proxima class used 2 banks of pulse phasers for broadside action.
The impulse engines look awesome to me. They just plain look great from the rear (the only view I had as I scanned quickly through the video), and also look like they'd make the ship extremely maneuverable for its size. I mean that it looks like it'd probably out-maneuver ships even much smaller than itself =)
Jim McCray extra maneuverability. Warbirds have good movements for their size. My ship needed this too.
The Pulse Phaser turrets would make a very good Point Defense system. And the side view reminds me of the Presidio Tactical Command Battlecruiser.
I know this particular ship gets a lot of hate, but I actually like it, it's an interesting concept. There's not that many larger Federation ships that are primarily warships, as compared to most that are science & exploration, so it's cool to see a ship with more of a bad-ass section 31 kind of vibe, you know?
Thanks! A bit of hate...yeah. But particularly, from people who only like specific types of ships.
Well like you guys stated about Saucer Separation, the 4 impulse engines make sense right. I'm also wondering on the way these 2 top Warp Necelles are anchored to the ship, do they separate with the Saucer section?
Ari.... Arizo.... Arizona class battleship?! Immediate like!
The USS Arizona was my favorite battleship/super-dreadnought from that period. so nice to know there is a fan model of the same name :D
Two Of Four And the final design incorporates Graviton Jump Drive. ;)
It has a very elegant, yet overpowered vibe to it. I like it! ^^
Fn4cK True story. In battle, sometimes, it's better to have the power and not need it, than need it and...
isfj1009 EXACTLY! :)
Oh right and I think the impulse engines are bang-on. If there is a higher res render incoming - might I suggest adding some dynamism there with some tonal changes in the color. or like a heat wave effect internally. But I like the shape, position and beefyness of it.
The turrets as adapted from Akira classes are great and makes sense if starfleet needed to cut development cost/time and scaled them down and just used an extant design. They'd use whatever they could off the shelf for a ship this large.
How many warp cores does this thing have? I'd guess no less than two - but as high as four or even five to generate enough power for each nacelle and/or slipstream?
The Phasic Cloak is great from a certain standpoint but it would require a huge strategic change at starfleet and Riker's dead body for that to happen. Or they classify its existence on the ship at roughtly Omega Level so only the captain knows about it - not even the tactical officer without a proper briefing and super emergency need for it. This is a ship that would scare the piss out of whatever remains of the Romulan Star Empire even if it is a Borg Killer - with no more Borg in the prime timeline...well - now its a direct counter to anything in the Typhon Pact. With slipstream that sucker can be anywhere in the Federation - so perhaps it even maintains station cloaked all the time so they can hide their asset - and only decloaks for use in war or a similar level of urgency.
TDBoedy Rilers Dead body?
Why would a ship like this not have a couple of Defiant type ships docked externally, like the captains yacht on other starships.
And Stuart said 30 seconds after i resume the video, perhaps a defiant class
imagine phased cloaked torpedos, go right through the hull and appear inside the enemy ship and blow up
hey trekyards i just found yer channel and enjoyed the discussion and since the topic was about a federation BB i was wondering if u would talk about the ships in star trek star fleet command 2 as they also had a BB there
would be cool to see one or two defiant class ships come out of a ship that big. or even a separation with a Voyager class under the saucer section. like if your that big maybe a mobile star base for ship repairs.
@22:11 it looks like there really are two blue shapes around the main deflector, and the blue lights seen from the front aren't just reflections of the nacelles' blue light. Are those secondary deflector arrays?
Definitely a ship meant for flag officers. The tonnage alone makes it a potential weapon of mass destruction. If it holds true to battleship doctrine (have big ass guns on a big ass ship) you would need someone with the military authority of a flag officer (commodore, admiral, etc.) to validate any use of force.
I love this ship! If the defiant is the federations pimp hand, this is the federations 50cal lol!
My only suggestion & it’s just because I wonder if it would look meaner ;) change the saucer to the voyager sovereign shape you already have but ad the nova class nose and then reduce the height of the ship (fewer decks flatter sharper edges)
Hi. Yeah. I hear ya. One of the parameters was to make it not too "threatening" during non-battle conditions. Hence, the torpedo pods that can be retracted and out of view when not under battle conditions.
@@isfj1009 it’s a beauty either way! My idea was simply a personal pref. I. Agree this look is def more traditional federation design. I still wouldn’t mind seeing the aggressive look idea on it though simply cause I imagine the aggressive one being something the federation would assign to worf as a sector flagship on the klingon border maybe since they’d respect a fearsome looking ship ☺️ or one run entirely by federation security as tactical response vessel to threats but no matter what though this ship as is even deserves to be cannon and in a episode at the very least!
The designer did incredible work!
@@Twitchguy Thank you! Worked really hard at it. You should check out the follow up video, EP323, shows the ship nicely flushed out.
good lord, that beast is massive! it's more than twice the length of a Sovereign-class! that's insane! I can't fathom that kind of size....my brain is not that imaginative. :-)
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one word...Trekyards ;)
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+Kaiserinmeli Per Andrew Probert they need to be in pairs.
"My fan ship's penis is larger than your fan ship's penis!"
what kind of seperation can she do? upper hull and lower hull come apart and both take their own set of nacelles. i could also see the bridge section coming off with the weapons turrets as a third section. I love the brod arrow head shape of the saucer and the pointed arro head shap of the bridge section.
Move the second pair of warp nacelles to above the secondary hull and you’ve got a ship!
Looks like a ship that could carry 10,000 people; easily!
I thought about that nacelle placement, but then it looked too X-wingy. 10,000 easily.
I could definitely see these as "Last Resort" ships, where Starfleet could build a fleet of these and send them off in every direction if the Federation is ever invaded or lost.
Very true. Two of these would be dispatched to the Andromeda Galaxy to begin exploration there.
Really enjoy this ship! Starship 'Galactica' might be appropriate here. Would love to see this brute in action.
Guys, in the aft view, there are 'doors' between the lower shuttlebay & the upper shuttlebay (visually)! & In the bottom view it looks like there are 2 large 'doors' too! Between the 2 lower warp nacelles!
Service panels.
Delta Flyer type two is Tom Paris edition It has fins like a 57 chevy and flames painted on the sides. And lets not forget the pin up Klingon girl sitting on a torpedo
BOOM!!!! :)
My fav on your show always thought that that is the direction that the universe should go
Just goes to show you, even in star trek, you can find a ship class you never heard of before. I know most ships in star fleet but this one is entirely new to me.
I would have put 4 of the slightly smaller retractable turrets on the underside of the saucer (same smaller turrets on the dorsal aft area) and two ventral phase strips on the secondary hull (like the sovereign class's 1 ventral phase strip). With such a huge ship it would be easy to stay underneath firing upwards whilst only having to deal with two ventral phase strips. That's quite a weakness. You would want to put them on the underside of the saucer because moving them aft on the secondary hull would make them an obstacle for launching fighters to overcome.
sillyitis Indeed, bruh. ;) incorporated these additions on my final, final design.
Awesome, beautiful ship bruh.
Could be my imagination, but shape of ships hull aft almost looks like the warp engines retract against the hull in battle to protect them from damage and reduce the shield profile. What is your thoughts ??
A fun design. I like it. I also like the idea of the turrets. though I agree with the captain the I would have the drop down into the hull. It's not like it's hurting for interior space lol.
I've always said that Starfleet needs to have it's own dedicated combat force. Just have it in reserve so it doesn't get mistaken as the face or intent of the Federation. A fleet for each major area. Have it act as a training platform for Starfleet personel. They cycle through to update and recertify. As well as mock battles for training their non combat oriented ships.
A ship like this would be like a mobile starbase doubling for a traning facility. Then when the next over powered villian shows up. The nearest combat fleet rolls in to the fight.
MrPingn Indeed. My second (final) rendition added a turret on each side of the bridge section, just aft of the registry. As well as several placements on the ventral side of both the primary and secondary hulls.
Is there a website where you can design your own star trek ship?. I have been working on a few shuttle/runabout bomber designs that I think would look well with the new era of starships people like designing
The front view reminds me of a saucer from 'V'.. now there is an idea for an episode... they have nice shuttles too - in case you ever decide to have a FLEETYARDS shuttle Month or something like that.
90 Lancaster yes their shuttles were very modular like on space:1999. They were everything from long transports/cargo ships to fighters with one basic design; very cool!
It looked like you could possibly dock 1-2 Defiant-class ships between the nacelles, which would allow for an escort to piggyback the quantum slipstream. Which would be almost mandatory for a ship this size, especially one built for battle. Just a thought.
Besides from the shape of the forward section of the saucer, and the nacelles, I think this a very impressive ship. A ship I'd like to be canon, or at the very least Star Trek Online, so I could command it.
Those landing bays on that looks like they could fit several Defiant class ships.
This frame style seems like it would be suited solely for troop transport and insertion in a Dominion War Scenario. Large space for troop housing and training, with power dedicated to large transporter capacity. Inserting a force of thousands of Starfleet or allied troops on a planet like Batazed. Maybe inclue ablative armor for survivability while troop transporting is occurring. The extra warp nacelles would be good for survivability, because while one can build new starships, you cannot clone new troops.
Indeed. The integrated Borg-derived power nodes would absolutely enhance transporter capability. Ablative armor be there ;)
The benefit for a phase cloak is its mine protection. A ship could pass threw a minefield and surprise an enemy position.
the perspective of the picture from the aft looks off to me..not sure what it is about it but it looks like the left aft impulse engine is tilted up and the right aft one is tilted down. Not sure if that is due to shading or what.. it could just be me though
over all seems like a neat ship
Those nacelles make me think this is another attempt at a different species faking a Federation design, like the Voyager episode with the slipstream ship.
Addon: Pulse Phaser Cannons could, in theory, randomize their energy frequency to compensate for Borg adaptation with each pulse. This would effectively make them ideal for fighting Borg.
Agreed.
Is there access to a current LCARS operating system that would overlay a W8/8.1 OS?
I *really* need to finish my "Timberwolf Class" design... Just gotta figure out how to smooth out the surfaces and give it some actual hull textures...
~JD
alright gentlemen I have been a long time watcher but stupidly only a recent subscriber you guys are very informative and great to watch now I have a couple of trek mods for sins of a solar empire and I think this would be a fantastic applicant of the role of a titan
At that size... pretty sure a defiant class can fit in the lower hangar, and since the defiant has a history with cloak, it could make a nice combat surprise (i mean it is a battle ship)
Some suggestions, if i may:
1. Add 3 individual warp cores. One as a general purpose. One dedicated for weapons (as a battleship should be). One smaller, as a redundancy, also to power some (special) auxiliary features.
2. Add a feature/section to produce/construct any type of torpedo and another feature/module to be able to mine & refine (not only) dilithium on the fly.
2a. I imagine the construction of this ship eats up a lot of resources to build (materials, time, personnel, multiple shipyards in tandem, etc).
2b.The federation is a peace faring thingy. This ship has the excuse of coming into existence due to borg, species 8472, etc. This being said, due to the nature of federations diplomatic tensions (that this purely war ship must bring) +2.a.+2.b there should only ever exist 1 to 3 ships of this kind at any given time.
2c. >conclusion> In order to be able to fly from war zone to war zone this ship should be able to mine any resource needed in order to, and be able to, construct its own armament.
3. In war there is no place for children. This should never have the feature of being a generational ship.
4. (^Iwo Jima class^) The standard crew complement should be supplemented by at least 4-600 close quarters combat crew and maybe some combat drones (for hazard zone combat) plus multiple boarding pods. This should give the ship the capability, for example, to resist being boarded by multiple borg cubes at the same time, or, as another example, board and take over even those enormous borg hypercubes.
The saucer should have fewer/smaller windows, and more forward weapons emplacements. The hull plating should also look more like an ablative armor, and not the Galaxy class explodium.
Thanks! Final version does have fewer windows on the saucer. 48 torpedo launchers JUST on the saucer (weapon pods). Multiple phaser arrays on the weapon pods. And the large dorsal and ventral saucer phaser arrays are segmented, allowing for simultaneous phaser fire from the arrays.
This hull would make the most awsome science vessel. Or a colony ship. A huge scientific/diplomatic long range deep space vessel. It could hold whole familes for ong range missions and such.
Lots of science tech onboard. Two of the vessels (at least?) would begin exploration into the Andromeda Galaxy.
Can you get a interior look of the ship?
William May Kinda working on that. Still a bit above my league right now.
thank you. it didn't to ask.
Correct me if I am crazy, but:
1. Given what this ship IS, it should never see a civilization we don't want to kill.
2. Are the pulse phasers not built to defend against shuttlecraft and drones?
I like it...big for sure (correction = MASSIVE) but like it a lot
I agree, the turrets would be retractable and would be retracted most of the time;
producing a 'less aggressive' appearance, visually. And given the ship's size ...
yes, I would expect each turret to have it's own torpedo magazine and phaser-
power generators (at least as a back-up, to provide redundancy in case of large-
scale damage); the large size also allow for a sizable 'Captain's Excursion Craft'
(I've never liked using the term 'yacht' for the Captain's personal craft.), some-
thing as big as the Defiant (or nearly so), allowing the C.O. to make an 'excursion',
and bring along both staff *and* a protective detail, if needed.
I would like to point out that with a ship *this* big, with all *these* capabilities, & a
crew complement of *2500(+/-)* ... the Commanding Officer would be at least a
Fleet Captain, and more likely a Commodore! This level of rank would justify
making the Excursion Craft a full-featured and fully-capable small starship. Also,
an Excursion Craft that big would allow having a large enough Briefing/Conference
Room to allow it to also suffice as a 'Greeting Hall' for Diplomatic Meetings & the like.
Yup. Weapon pods are retractable; each has it's own supply of torpedoes; each has it's own power distribution nodes (PDNs) for supplemental as well as emergency power.
"Captain's Yacht" is an Arrow Class shuttle. Standard compliment is (6).
Sorry, this is the kind of vessel that would lead a 10+ year deep, space, exploratory mission, possibly for leaving the Milky Way galaxy based on size and overall capability
No apologies. It very well could, like a mobile deep space starbase. And be able to defend itself rather well.
Super Starship Arizona NCC-FU! LMAO! Kidding~ish!
with the phase cloaking device if an enemy fired weapons wouldn't it go through the phased ship?
yess..but they couldn't effectively fire weapons while in cloak as those weapons would also be out of phase.
I kinda like the Arizona Class it looks like it can really knock the crap out of a warbird.
This ship gives me the thought of Pre-Dauntless class design from the port Aft Keel view point
Hmmmm kooks like those bits from the Akira are not actually torpedo launchers, but giant speakers for when the Federation throws a massive recruiting rave.
LOL! I have addressed some of the, issues discussed here; "pointy-oddly curved front tip"; engines; shuttle bays; deployable weapons pods. (fyi, pulse-phasers are more powerful. If made into a solid beam, would burn out the emitters quickly...kinda like the WoK Mega-Phasers)
I would like to see defiant shaped ships made larger to fit other missions. A full range of actual frigates, destroyers, and battle ships.
That to me screams highly mobile insanely fast battle ready space Station not so much exploratory ship more exploratory space station. This is the time of the soul.
It definitely has its good points. I agree. The nacelles could be a little better size proportioned and sleeker but my biggest critique is technical. The warp field emitters on the nacelles are facing the wrong way. According to the STTNG tech manual, the warp field can do considerable damage to matter the closer it is to the emitters. Otherwise, it's a sound design.
Fun design. My only nit IMO is the nacelles seem too squared off (for me). But like all battleships, too valuable (expensive) to lose. Maybe it travels with a battle group for protection.
It would be cool if the next Star Trek Captain Picard Series would include some of these fan ship designs.
Tbh not even these ships would save the show at this point.
Am I the only one who would want to see a Terran Empire version of this ship with less windows and weapons in every feasible place, especially the long flat hull section, which could feasibly have more turrets or phaser strops, and the saucer section is thick enough to have at least twice as many strips as it has now.Also, those nacelles need some kind of retractable armor that folds in and exposes the nacelles when jumping to warp, but covers them in combat. Because the 10:55 top view shows just how exposed the actual nacelles are.
Darkly Mirror version. BAM!!!!
As far as shielding / exposed nacelles goes, the ship is protected with a shield technology that is an amalgam of Borg tech (a la Seven of Nine) and Cytherian tech ("Nth Degree"). Each of the nacelles even has their own set of shield emitters.
Awesome Ship. Needs made Canon for about 50 years After TNG
Schardt Cinematic Productions About 10 years after Voyager.
50 years would be far too long. For better or worse, something like this would exist probably no more than 10 years after the end of The Dominion War, since while the Dominion was contained, it was by no means defeated. At some point in the Star Trek Universe, there would assuredly be a Second Dominion War...even if the Founders had to sacrifice countless Jem'Hadar to acquire trans-warp technologies so they could invade the Alpha Quadrant by means other than the Bajoran Wormhole.
It needs some adjustments tho
r the nacelles retractable an what bout refractive shielding might cause a Lil more confusion for the borg
Wow that is huge although just smaller than an Imperial Class Star Destroyer (1,600m)
Would take on a Borg Tactical Cube with relative ease at that size.
Wonder what is it's mission though? Borg are dead but the Typhon Pact is causing utter chaos.
And yep Babylon 5 reference also came to mind.
Palpatine001 Collective as it was. Yeah. But what about splinters?
Why do people assume Borg are all dead everywhere? Seven stated that the Nexus-hub-space station thingy that they destroyed tn the last ST:Voy episode was one of seven in the entire galaxy. What i took from the episode was that the explosion ruptured the trans-warp conduits leading to the Alpha Quadrant. I assume that the collective are spread heavily through other parts of the galaxy and are creating pathways back toward the alpha quadrant immediately following the events of Voyager
Correct. But that's just one threat species to the Federation and its allies. And I did want to stay as close to canon as possible. Thought of going way of STO, but that woulda been too much of a departure from canon for me.
Right and good points.
If this was your design....well done. I like her !
I like the nacelles , they look like they are made for brute force instead of looking pretty. The shuttle bay seems like it should go as deep as the secondary hull allows. I could imagine 20-25 deep and 3 rows of smaller shuttles. Less on the top 2 that could be almost in-battle shuttles, like rescue or assistance of other ships being fired on. Think tug boats with self defense capability.
I personally want to see more ships with more windows, I know it would help me mentally and could help with stress, otherwise you are sleeping and living in a steel cage which can get to you after a while.
I like the overall design a lot. The nacelles not so much. It's a great concept. Mobile star base that can kick ass. It could also serve as a transport for fighters even small shops that need protection until they are deployed. I do however think the warp 9.9 speed is not viable on such a large ship.
good day Captain Foley. the pulse phasers to my understanding is both for concentrated compressed energy as well as for kinetic impact. think like a Mac gun from Halo except instead of a kiloton slug you got this compressed energy acting like in hammer so it's more like a double impact.
the other thing I wanted to mention is that the smaller impulse engines is probably for the secondary hell and the larger ones is for the Primary hell.
Phasing selective areas to deploy or recover shuttles/fighters or even gather the smaller ships and then phase the ship around them would be a very insane but useful maneuver. Phasing would also help counter the kinetic cutting beam the Borg use. Torpedoes could also just go through the ship and perhaps even modifying the phasing cloak to temporarily phase cloak torpedoes and or auxiliary craft. I am thinking this is a few generations behind the Enterprise J but it is in the same vein although cooler than that monster.
the pylons are too close to the ship,I know the Defiant but this ship is too large to use the radiation shielding used by the defiant that was one of the reasons the defiant was small. I like that the one set of warp nacelle is attached to the primary hull and a second set is attached to the engineering or battle section. The size of the impulse engines would indicate that the primary is much larger as far as mass and would need the larger engines. The engineering/battle section impulse engines are smaller because the push a smaller mass. The placement of the warp and impulse engines tells you that the ship splits. How and where does the ship split?
This is needed to defend Sol system
I've been working on a ship design for a while now, but I'm stuck with sketches. I wish I had the modelling skill to finish it. :/
Mr1flapjack1 Just takes a LITTLE practice. TRUST me.
@@isfj1009 What program do you use for it ?
I use Solidworks for product design( my job) , but I never had much succes using it for modelling star ships as it isn't really a graphic design program.
I'm interested what you use.
@@Handlealreadytaken.Trythisone. I use Blender.
Pulse phasers hit harder than a beam because it's delivering the same kinetic yield consistently vs a bleed effect with a sustained beam. Beam phasers are less punchy, but you can get more accurate with them.
right its meant to deliver increased shield drain with multiple shocks but also to defeat ablative armor in a similar manner with the thermal shock
Have you guys done the ships from Star Blazers?
I love it. Finally a proper Federation Battleship. That thing's almost the size of a Star Destroyer! More proof Janeway is evil.
edit> you could probably park a Miranda-Class in that lower hangar.
This is a cool design, I kinda like the idea of a Starfleet Battleship, though the only thing I don't like is the Phaser Turrets/Akira Weapon pods. Either the turrets need to be bigger or there need to be more of them, additionally, I think it would look better if the designer turned the torpedo launchers into a turrets, whether incorporating them into the the Phaser turrets, or even giving them their own turrets.
Anyways great video as always.
I’m planning my own federation ships and would love to show them to you guys when they’re done.
The bow is clearly curved the way it is to reference the real USS Arizona. Having 4 Nacelles makes sense if it affects power and redundancy which are both useful in a Battle Ship design but too boxy in my opinion.
The size is also a necessity for the Graviton Jumpdrive. Similar to the Warp scale; larger graviton distortions require larger nacelles to produce them.
I would love to see this ship in STO. Would be fun to fly
Agreed.
Very cool ship, I would love to see what the finished product would look like.
Top shot actually looks like the stock image from the early Star Trek Voyager concept art.
The saucer definitely needs a bit of work. I'd even be happy if the saucer had the same shape as the E.
Especially, when you see both ships side-by-side.
Regardless, this is a really cool design!
I'm not sure the crew compliment for this beast is right. The Sovereign Class was 685m and sported a standard crew of 855, with nearly 10,000 being the max that could be carried on board in an emergency. This Arizona Class is slightly bigger than double the size at 2.26 which looks about right to me on the scale. So I would honestly say the bridge on the Arizona Class would like actually have a very different design than the Sovereign Class. In fact it would not surprise me that as a warship if it had one of the if not the only multi individual tactical station in Star Fleet. With a weapon compliment going from 16 type-XII phaser arrays and 10 torpedo launchers to 22 type XIII phaser arrays, 8 torpedo pods (which someone says is like 90 launchers), and pulse phase quad cannons mounted in 5 turrets. That is an insane increase in fire power. So yeah tactical on this ships bridge I could see having 3-5 crew members at all times, with 1 monitor power to defensive systems and tending to it while another handles weapons and another handles shields and others handling ship security. (This is also assuming the pulse cannon turrets are individually controlled by the weapons crew in the turrets) This is all mostly because the more tactical stations and crew manning them the more targets can be engaged simultaneously. And then there is the carrier role, so far I haven't even mentioned anyone being in charge of coordinating the fighters. So yeah, I can see this ship possibly having more "crew" than what was suggest. I'm seeing roughly 1,932 standard crew. That's all your engineers, command, science, and medical the people that would in laymen terms be the sailors. After them you have the pilots, which whatever your hanger space is you should assume 2 per fighter or other type of crafts. That's a number that isn't defined in the video so it would be figures as 100+ (figuring at least 50 shuttle sized craft which is 2.5x as many as the Sovereign carries). And while on the subject of the hanger I'm not sure about the guys that were reviewing it but to me it very much did look like the lower hanger was a two story hanger, but empty of any craft. Which made me think it would be interesting if the fighters and shuttles are actually kept below deck and are brought in to be launched via elevators or large industrial transporters from a more secured hanger bay on the deck beneath the hanger itself like what an aircraft carrier has and does.Back on crew topic though. Last we have one more section needed, the security crew. Which I feel should be divided into 2 duties weapons officers and marines. The weapons officers would be the crew that man all those weapon systems and keep them working smoothly. So I'm figuring you are probably looking at another 500 crew right there. As for the marine compliment they serve as general security and mostly handle anything that involves phasering other individuals on or off ship. There could easily be 2000 of them because this is a warship, it is meant to fight and as they mentioned it very likely doesn't get out much unless that is it's purpose. At 2.26 times the sovereign's size you could expect it to have enough space to in an emergency max out at 22,000 people on board. However given the ships purpose and the design it would have to fulfill it that would be taking up space I would place the max compliment it could carry to be more like 15,000 or so. So the total crew that would normally be on board would be around 4,332-4,650 with additional free space allocated for carrying 6,000-8,000 troops for ground invasions during war time.
I have had something like this in mind for a while now but do not have the skills to model it. The one comment was right it needs had at least one defiant class ship.
Adam Clagett always wanted to see a federation ship like this