What is up my friends?! I hope you enjoyed this video! Let me know if you like academic videos and let me know if you are in university right now making professional school decisions! I have a chest/shoulders workout video coming next :) Much love! xoxo
the 70% for residency match for MDs is probably explained by the large group of students who end up going to caribbean MD schools instead of staying w/in the US. Those students (IMGs) have a match rate closer to 50%, with US graduates having a match rate of ~95-96%. Great job on the video! i admire your dedication to breast CA research
As an MD (neurological surgery-PGY2) I have an insane amount of respect for the work that phDs do. I feel like often times they are not appreciated to the extent that they should be and I honestly am in awe in the presence of phDs and how passionate they are in their specific niche. Unlike most MDs, you are the forefront of medicine and the advancement of science, technology and medicine lies in your hands. Without phDs, MDs would be nothing, so thank you for all the work you do.
@@caesar4940 For people who are hungry for knowledge and are passionate abut there field is completely worth it. They are doing something meaningful and fulfilling. Based on your comment you are ignorant to this situation and arrogant. While you have been working on a shitty job we have been getting paid(surprise MF!) and completing something with so much value. If you decide to go in industry, our salaries in just two years would catch up to your salary and surpass it. Lets say you have worked full time for 4 years and earned an average salary of 35000. You have roughly earned around 140000 excluding taxes, etc. A science student working on his/her Phd is getting paid/stipend around 25000 a year. 4 years later they have earned around 100000. Now they go in to industry and get a six figure salary, with one of the biggest accomplishments a human can earn, a Phd. In just two years of work they will blow your earnings out of the water while doing something fulfilling. Nothing can put a value on that. What you see as a waste of time, can be said the same thing for you. What was your last proudest moment? Good day.
@@alexv5581 You could've defended your point without insults and without looking down at people who have other priorities and are maybe content with their jobs/it works for them, or on people who would maybe love to work for a phD as well but because of different circumstances they can't and have to choose/settle for a "shitty job", depending on _your_ classification of it. I can understand the anger and frustration at having something so valued dismissed by others but still.
Thank you! I think both are amazing options for career paths but there are some statistical facts that are simply just facts. I think those are the things to consider and not one over the other due to stigma or prestige. :)
JenClaire2015 M.D. here as well (radiology). What speciality are you? I did lab research for 5 months during undergrad, don't think I would last 1 year much less a career doing that ;) I am glad there are those that do!
Do you mind if I ask where you’re obtaining your PhD? I’m double majoring in bio and environmental science at the moment in my third year, and I want to pursue a PhD in animal behavior/ecology or marine biology. My boyfriend and I are currently making a list of grad schools. It feels so overwhelming, and he’s looking into med schools to make it even MORE anxiety inducing. The whole process is just so scary!
I admire how honest she is when speaking on both paths. Traditionally, when a RUclipsr, for example, makes a video like this, they spend the majority of the video downing the MD path or sugarcoating the downsides of the PhD path. Same goes for RUclipsrs who took the MD path (though not many MDs make videos such as this one). I was genuinely interested in both paths and this video was definitely helpful in giving distinct information on both. Thank you so much for this.
Stephanie, you are the MOST articulate human being on this earth! Coincidentally, my sister (who is in her first year of residency) and I just had a conversation this evening about what her total debt will be, which will be around $270K. Ouch! Anyways, great video as always! 😬
"If you love science and are NOT a people person, they do a PhD" 😂 As a PhD student in infectious disease and outbreak detection... I can fully appreciate this statement and I find myself saying it too often whenever I think could've made more money as an MD 💸😂
This video has very little to do with me and my personal career aspirations seeing as I'm a commerce undergrad, but I watched through the whole thing and enjoyed it regardless. Keep up the good work Stephanie! I've been watching your channel since you only had 3 videos up and I've been loving all of them.
I'm not a med or science student, nor anything close to that... but I watched the whole video from start to finish because I just love watching your videos. Amazing content like always!
Great and informative video! Just thought I would share my personal experience. I started off with an MD straight after completing my undergraduate education. However, a year down the line, I realized that something did not feel right. Medicine and clinical training are challenging and you're really focused on individual patients in time-constrained interactions. After taking a leave of absence, I thought about my career a lot. I decided that I was more passionate about contributing to changes at a population level. I wanted to improve the quality and accessibility of healthcare. As such, I am now applying to MPH programs. So just wanted to point out that a desire to improve health can also develop into a more nuanced passion--the spectrum of healthcare and science is so broad!
Great video but the 70% match rate is a little misleading in the context you used it. The 70% match rate is for those applying for a residency position in the US system. This takes into account all of the international graduates who wish to match in the US. Although these international grads may want to work in the US they likely also applied for a residency position in their home country. E.g. if I'm a Canadian medical graduate who would like to work in the US, I'd almost definitely apply to both a Canadian and US residency program. Although my chances of matching to the US is about 50% on average (my rejection would contribute to your 70%) my chances of matching in Canada are very high - 90%+. Therefore, even though I'm classified as rejected according to the US match database and your statistics, there is still a high probability that I match and have a residency. Therefore, if we look at the worldwide statistics for matching it would likely be much higher than 70%. Also if you look at just those who are graduates of US medical schools and apply into the US system, again the match rate jumps to about 94% for MDs and 84% for DO students.
I actually agree with the premise of the video, the PhD and MD are commonly held as the "gold standard" degrees (not necessarily the right opinion to hold in my mind but still very common), so it is logical to compare them. The whole point of my comment was she really missed the mark on the 70% figure. If I was entering a US medical school and preparing to take on 200-300 thousand dollars in debt with a 70% chance of landing a residency after I'd much rather get a nursing degree, which has amazing employment figures. However, if you're accepted to a US MD school as a US citizen your chances are a much more optimistic 94%. Again, I enjoyed this video for the most part and Stephanie's content is very high quality, but this data taken out of context could be a real punch in the gut to someone who is spending their last dollar getting a MD degree. For those who do not match into a residency programs job prospects are very poor when considering the insane debt load and time a student has invested.
Thank you so much for clarifying this. I was very surprised by the statistic and this makes so much more sense to me now because I didn't realize that they wouldn't account for the 30% not matching in the US who actually DID match in a different country.
Glad I could help, I'm a Canadian student myself so I have the benefit of seeing it from the other side! I appreciate the video and all the hard work, this sort of high quality informative content is invaluable to many.
I'm curious if the stat also takes into account the residency "scramble" where graduating med students do not "match" technically but then scramble into a residency program they did not originally match into or if it's just 70% don't match into their original rank list.
As a medical student I absolutely love your content and videos!! I thought this was a great video and I agreed with all of your points and opinions! The neat thing is many schools offer a MD (and DO)/PhD program which opens more doors to each field and allows students to train as clinicians and still do research/work in labs. On NPR there was also a segment talking about a new field being tested out at Texas A and M called "physican-eers" where medical students are immersed in curriculum that blends medical studies with engineering mindsets/studies to further prime students' minds about how to most effectively approach patients and look at all options for treatment/therapy and prevention! Thanks for your great videos and for contributing/spreading knowledge on science (and especially women in science!)
I am also an MD medical student and I would like to include the Physician Assistant option for those more exclusively interested in medicine and less in the science or research. I believe once we start including all the potential positions in medicine and research, many will see that there are endless options depending on your goals for your future and what you enjoy doing. I do not know if she mentioned this, but for either path it is extremely important to immerse yourself prior to your decision by doing an internship or volunteering for a lab or research assistant as well as shadowing physicians, MD's, DO's, PA's and RNP's. It will most likely change your outlook by giving you real life experiences.
malyikaj What would our health care system look like if doctors spoke the same language as engineers? www.marketplace.org/2017/12/08/education/what-would-our-healthcare-system-look-if-doctors-spoke-same-language-engineers
More academic focused videos please! I find it really inspiring and thought provoking since I am an undergrad who is currently debating what I want to do with my future.
I've been interested in going to graduate school for the last two years (I'm in undergrad) and I feel so lost as to if this is the right decision. Most of my professors are pushing me towards grad school citing the debt of medical school, and my interest in genetics and protein research. It was nice seeing both sides of the argument. And the mind set of getting to the root of the problem is why I tend to favor grad school. I want to solve problems not alleviate them. But I'm terrified of not finding a job. It's frustrating trying to imagine where either route would lead.
Ancient Mariner I too am in the same dilemma. But I feel there is no hard and fast rule that one needs a PhD to do research. I feel we can do research with only a MD as well. Anyways I wish you all the best for your future.
Peace be to you! This is perhaps the MOST insightful and informative presentation I have EVER seen pertaining to this topic. I originally wanted to be a Biologist since I was a kid. Sadly, it doesn't pay much in proportion to the vast amount of training one has to do to. I was offered a non-tenured faculty position for less than one-third than what I make as a PA; couldn't do it! 💸😩 While I REALLY enjoy helping people through the practice of medicine, Science, teaching and firness are my TRUE passions! It's so refreshing to see someone who has pursued these. I wish you the VERY best of succes in your positive endeavors! I hope you do more videos discussing you research.
hi there. as a hopeful future PA i wanted your opinion and suggestions on PA-PhD. By doing PA-PhD are we able to compensate for the clinical edge the MD's have?.
I just recently applied to medical school and am now waiting for some interviews and (hopefully) an acceptance! This video was super unbiased and interesting to watch! You speak so well
This video was fantastic and I plan to show it to every STEM student I mentor! I have a PhD in neuroscience and went straight from grad school to a non-reseach role in industry (minus a year or to of contract work...). I knew I always wanted to work in pharma and when I was in grad school I saw how grim it was for my friends who wanted to pursue a path in academia. One thing I would recommend is that if you ever do a future video on this topic to look at those who pursue a PharmD. I wish I had known more about this option when I was an undergrad. I thought being a PharmD meant you were stuck at CVS for the rest of your life but PharmD's are highly sought after in industry. Also, your estimates for what a PhD makes in industry for a salary are really on the low side, especially if you factor in bonuses and stock options. Love your videos!!!!
Lightly unrelated to the topic of the video, but every time you make videos where you talk about your research I get a bit giddy because I understand more of what you’re taking about each time. I’m a first year in a bioscience technician program at a college in Ontario, & I don’t really run across people discussing what I’m studying much in every day life so it’s so cool hearing someone else talk about it. :3 (I got excited when you said biomarkers, I’m writing an essay on biomarkers for ADHD right now as a final project for one of my classes.)
Hi Stephanie I'm currently in undergraduate sophomore for a Bachelor in Science in Korea and I study biotechnology! I found ur channel watching fun nutrition/fitness videos in youtube;) As someone trying to balance studying, exploring my passion, working out,beauty, and a ton of other things I found your videos soooooooo helpful and entertaining on top of being inspirational too. I find it so wonderful and inspiring that you would take care of yourself so well while pouring hours and hours of soul and hard work into your doctoral research You got my support 😘
I’m a subscriber now! Thank you for making videos that actually teach young people about the real world. Don’t get me wrong I love your workout videos too, but really appreciate these academic style videos especially for my teenagers!
The way you described someone who should study PhD was so spot on for me. A.) science obsessed, b.) not a people person, c.) research fanatic! Gosh I’m already stressing about my future education and careers, and I’m not even 17 yet! I don’t want to be a professor, nor a researcher (which would be more preferable). I want to become a forensic scientist, but want to pursue a high education. I admire how you are such a hard worker! I mean, a bachelors, 2 masters AND a PhD!
Great vid! My wife is a 1st year pathology resident and oh boy, was med school challenging. Just 3 more years (CP&AP) of residency and 2 fellowships to go...
Would love to see a video on how you studied through school! I’m starting nursing school next semester and I plan to get my DNP (Doctorate in Nursing) eventually. I’m new to weight lifting and I’m a huge science nerd like you! So seeing how you studied all this complicated science/physiology and balanced everything would be super helpful. ❤️
Congrats on defending your Thesis. Just wanting to highlight that British PhDs (and European PhDs in general for that matter) operate differently. PhD = 3 years here, and at the end of it you submit your thesis for examination. You have a viva with an internal and an external examiner (maybe an independent chair), it is not an open event... Then, after ~3 hours of 'grilling' you anxiously wait outside after the examiners deliberate... Eventually, you are invited back into the room where they tell you what they liked and didn't like, before informing you whether you have passed or not. FUN! xD
Some in Europe have an open viva and also require you to publish your research in order to be awarded your PhD (my friend at KU Leuven in Belgium needs to do this!)
Applyin to Medical School after my last year of Orgo Chem. Absolutely love your channel & Jeff's! lol I'm a kinesiology major soo watching him helps me with my fitness and classes like biomechanics & movement anatomy lol
Absolutely! And if you do, more power to you! I was just outlining a more traditional pathway for our current environment however "traditional" is also a bad term. The job of "post-doc" didn't even used to exist before there were too many PhDs for the number of professor positions. All that to say that I agree lol
Great content steph, Im a bio major at Umass and I love the academic material you add to your videos. Big into fitness and im looking into PA school when I get my undergrad hopefully ill be as successful as you and Jeff!
Im currently pursuing a Biomedical Sciences degree, hoping to go all the way up to PhD! I would love & die to get the chance to research for cures of diseases! & overall somehow contribute to helping people! My main drive & motivation comes from 1) The enthusiasm of helping the ones effected & finding cures 2) Pursuing a career in teaching as a professor! (I apologize for my bad English). I cant wait to contribute to field of medicine & science!!!! :D
If you are not a people person, but are really smart and can act like you're a people person for 8-9 years, you can still be an MD and choose pathology or radiology.
You really make me want to educate myself... your content is phenomenal! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing, not only this video but for sharing so much knowledge throughout your channel. Please know we appreciate you so much. So much support - from Canada 🇨🇦
I love this! I’m currently a pre-med in a masters program trying to get into medical school. I will warn people it is a HARD AND LONG road, either way. The med school world is extremely competitive and it also requires a thick skin and a lot of self confidence in your own ability to learn. Even the application process tends to scare people away. Don’t give up if it’s your dream. It’s worth it if you can’t picture yourself doing anything else.
Another good topic I never see talked about are the professional doctorate programs for practitioners. Many of these are fantastic alternatives for those that know what field they want to practice in, and aren't interested in M.D. residency and cost, or research and academic jobs for Ph.Ds, when instead they can immediately focus on a specialized field. Typically they range from 4 - 6 years and some of the healthcare practices do offer residency and fellowships, and can have Ph.D. co-tracks. Some of the more well known, and have great expected job growth include. Doctor of Audiology - Au.D. - (Ever since 2007, the Au.D. is now required to practice in the U.S., job market is VERY good due to this. Baby boomer generation will increase further.) Doctor of Chiropractic Medicine - D.C. (For some reason the most hated by M.D. and D.O.) Doctor of Dentistry - D.D.S. or D.M.D. - Floss Doctor of Nursing Practice - D.N.P. - Very good for those with BSN's that want to further their career greatly. Plans to transition this to a doctorate required field by 2030, currently only a Master's is needed and those holding MSN will be grandfathered into this, no extra graduate studies will be necessary. Good for those wanting to provide family or pediatric practices. Doctor of Optometry - O.D. (A very competitive graduate program to get into. Not many Optometry programs in the U.S., and most take a maximum of 50-70. Take the Optometry Admission Test.) Doctor of Pharmacy - Pharm.D. - If you work for a large retail pharmacy, they have been known to award up to 33% towards tuition if you are a Pharmacy Tech. to pursue graduate studies. Doctor of Physical Therapy - D.P.T. - Like Chiropractic medicine, this has been controversial as a "credential creep" in the job market. Wages are on the lower side for Doctorate employees. Doctor of Podiatric Medicine - D.P.M. - The closest to D.O. you can get, as you WILL be in Med School with M.D. / D.O.'s for the first 2 years of graduate studies, just focused on lower extremities. One of the few that performs major surgeries and requires the MCAT. 9 Schools available in the US. Doctor of Psychology - Psy.D. - Psychotherapy and testing. Industrial/Engineering Psychologists make extreme wages, though Private Practice is unlimited in theory. Doctor of Veterinary Medicine - Competitive and can specialize in different fields or animals.
Definitely a video on how you balanced everything in graduate school! As someone planning to start a phd program in the fall, I'm very interested what other students' lives look like (especially with balancing a fitness lifestyle)!
Yes please! I love this kind of videos cause I'm a Spanish research student and I'm considering to undergo a PhD. I think the situation here is even worst than in the US but as you said, you have to think what is your passion in life. Anyway, good luck with your next adventures and I'll be tune to know more about them! :D
I don't normally comment on youtube videos but as a failed Ph.D. student, I feel compelled to comment. I hate comparisons between an M.D. and a Ph.D. in biomedical sciences. I understand that the two often work together and most Ph.D. programs in biomedical sciences work out of medical schools or are assigned to medical schools. However, the two vary greatly in terms of employability, salary, and duties. One thing to keep in mind is an M.D. can do biomedical research (Ph.D. type research). A quick google search of the top medical research universities in the United States confirms many M.Ds do in fact have labs and do biomedical research in addition to their clinical duties. The real difference is that a Ph.D. can NEVER have clinical duties for obvious reasons. Many Ph.D. students even are assigned to M.Ds as I was when I was a graduate student. Even to further complicate matters, PharmDs, DDS, and DVMs also are capable of having biomedical research labs. It makes one wonder why to pursue a Ph.D. at all if there are alternatives to pursuing biomedical research as a career but I guess there are other reasons. I've been to enough career seminars where people try to compare pathways between an MD or Ph.D. and all I can say is you simply can't or shouldn't. The two degrees are not on an equal playing field. I'm sorta hand waving, if not outright ignoring the elephant in the room but it has more to do with me trying to not have a "wall-of-text." The last thing I want to mention is the job market for PhDs in the life sciences is absolutely atrocious and has been for some time with it getting steadily worse. The short answer is that there are far too many PhDs in the job market than there jobs. If you're not crushing it in graduate school with publications in Nature and Cell, I think you'll find yourself doing the eternal post-doc for a good part of your career/life until you can find a better-paying position. You should also keep in mind that salaries in post-docs can vary wildly and are nowhere near close to what an M.D. will earn after they complete a residency program. I can't really speak about the industry but I heard it's even harder to get into the industry than it is to get a postdoc at a top-tier institution. Tl;DR, Even though you shouldn't compare the two, I recommend doing an M.D. over a Ph.D. for the simple fact that an M.D. can do biomedical research just as well as a Ph.D.
I love academic videos, you totally inspired me to pursue my masters! Im not in the medical field, but im in the international trade field. Thanks for not being and empty head fitness girl ;). This was the second video I watch of you, and I subscribed, looking forward to more of your insights and knowledge.
Very very helpful! I am currently an international medical graduate (IMG), I also have studied biotechnology. I have been struggling between a clinical path and research because I like both. Maybe someday I obtain a Ph.D., but after you clarifying me some things, I'll try to match into residency, and if I can't, I have 2 master's degrees in my mind.
Hi Stephanie! I just wanted to let you know this video really was super helpful for me. I am a semester away from graduating from with my bachelors in psychology and it has been so stressful trying to figure out what my next step should be, MD or PhD. Thank you so so much for sharing this :)
Happy to have chanced upon your vlog! I started my PhD early last year but had to stop for a while because I went back to teaching in college. Goon one! And congrats for your PhD
I totally agree with you that a person should pursue their dreams and as a retired chemist who worked for a very large government water and power utility have no regret working in industry. I realize that it is very difficult to see the future but, people have to make decisions.
Great video! I’m a first year medical student and fitness enthusiast, and I love your science based fitness videos. Super helpful for both my personal and professional life 💛
This video was a life saver. I used to spend sleepless nights in worry and confusion regarding which career path to take (MD vs PhD). But after watching this video all my doubts got cleared and i have got a clear cut idea about which path i should take. I cannot thank you enough for the help you have provided me by making this video. Thank you soooooo much. God bless.
I'm completing my undergrad in pursuit of an MD right now. I knew I definitely wanted to be an MD and this video confirmed it. I get good grades in my labs but I wouldn't say I find lab particularly interesting. I love your videos so much and I was especially excited to see this one come out 😊❤️
Thank you for the nice video that illustrated the differences between MD and PhD. I am a medical doctor who completed his residency recently in South Africa and I found conducting research is very exciting as you have questions that you are looking for answers for it. Therefore, I had decided to pursue my career by obtaining a PhD. My personal opinion that every medical doctor should be a clinical scientist by completing the residency and doing PhD as well. Regards
OH. MY. GOSH!!! I can not thank you enough. Thank you so much for the in depth information. Thank you for data and personal opinion. Knowing how someone who’s actually participated in this, makes it easier for me to decide. I truly appreciate it. I’ll definitely be adding this to my playlist!! BE BLESSED!!😘😘
I agree with you. However, MD gigs if you cannot get on as a contracting hospitalist or have the money to become a partner with another doc you are screwed especially if you cannot get matched. You can still practice as a doc if you do not get matched but the chances of you getting a practice rights at a hospital are very slim to none. This means you cannot admit, treat, prescribe, or give orders to a nurse in case of an emergency to any patients in the hospital. It would have been better financially if you became an NP or a PA. Most who do not get matched become pharm reps. As for a PhD, chose your discipline very carefully because it can be a financial disaster. Academic jobs come dime of a dozen unless you teach at the local trade college (not tenure but it pays the bills). When comparing the MD to a PhD the MD is equivalent to a masters versus a PhD is terminal. In some environments a PhD trumps the MD and some cases vice versa.
In the US, it is on the books in most states that you can't practice unless you at least do an intern year. Most residency programs have the intern year built in because Family Practice (US equivalent to GP) requires 3 years of post graduate training now. Also, the states she had for US matching were not the best because it included international medical graduates who applied for US residency and do not get accepted to a US training program. Some of those people may have done a program in their country instead. There is a 94% match rate for US allopathic (MD) medical students and 82% for osteopathic (DO) medical students. However, the American Osteopathic Association has its own matching program as well, but the two accreditation councils (American Osteopathic Association & American Medical Association) are planning on merging by 2020. I am not sure what this will mean for matching in the future.
Thank you for this great video, I finish my DMD program & I just started doing topic search for my Ph.D and this video helped a lot. Keep up the amazing work
Beautifully presented and summarized. Both MD and PhD programs are rigorous. If one is completely going to grad/med school purely for the financial payoff, I would agree that the MD route is the best to take. I know a guy who has an MD/DMD and is an oral surgeon, works in a group of 4, and makes really good money (400-500k/year, so he tells me).
I really enjoyed your video! I can't believe I'm just found your channel lol ( this vid was in my recommendations). Also, congratulations on earning your PhD in pathology & cell biology 👏🏽🙌🏽! I'm a pre-med (non-traditional) & I've always been interested in biology & anatomy/physiology!! Definitely have subscribed 🙂!
Really love these academia videos! I'm not a med student (psychology student here) but this was still interesting and helpful as we also have the option to either go into "people"-based work or research :)
Love this Stephanie, have been a premed/ fitness nerd and your video completely nailed it on the coffin between these two similar yet different fields!!
Thanks Steph! This is very helpful and informative! I’m a mechanical engineering undergrad and have an interest pursuing a PhD on medical device design or being an orthopedic surgeon in the future. It’s hard to decide and there are so many things to consider. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Hello! I’m doing a BSc in molecular biology and I just wanted to thank you for being an inspiration! I would love to watch more videos of your reaserach/ what you do in labs/ academics :) after following you, I tried to get involved in uni like asking to volunteer in my profs’ research lab but to no avail. How did you start gaining experience in labs to get you where you are now?
Really enjoyed this video Steph, I am a UK phd in ecology and thinking about what to do next so this was handy and interesting to hear about the US experience
Great video!! The only statistic I'd like to address and further clarify is when you stated that 70% of people who apply to residency get one. More specifically, if you attend an American MD school, your chances of matching into residency is 95%. That's about the same as the pass rate for the national medical board exams which influence where you can go. For international medical grads, it's about a 50% acceptance rate and is ungodly hard. I'd have to look up what it is for Americans who attend international medical schools and then apply to residency. But essentially, if you get into an American MD school, even though you have a lot of hard work ahead of you, your dreams of becoming a practicing physician are almost gold. It's people from foreign medical schools which drop that number :)
Nice layout of the differences. Like you said, those numbers are averages but paint a fair picture of what to expect. What’s the work week like as a PhD in terms of average hours? It’s hard to quantify for a med student, but as a resident a lot of people may not realize that they’ll be working on average 80 hours per week (roughly the equivalent of two full time jobs), with some being more and some being less. I would guess writing a dissertation also takes up a lot of time, just wondered more about the average time needed in a week for a PhD and post doc as someone who took the other route.
The amount of hours are probably similar..I know PhDs and post-docs who literally sleep in their lab. During my PhD, if I had a 14 hour experiment that had to have images taken every 2 hours after (ie fluorescent imaging) then it was an all nighter for me. When I was writing my dissertation, I was getting 2-3 hours of sleep. On the flip side, I had friends in med school and residency who also never slept. The system is proliferating a bunch of unhealthy health professionals lol.
I'm doing my PhD in computational biology right now, and only work 40ish hours a week, and that's fairly typical for my field. During the first few years when I was also taking classes I was working a bit more, maybe closer to 50 hours a week, though it could get as high as 70 when I had exams. I think it depends mostly on the person, but also the specific research field and the student's adviser.
Great video!! It's so interesting the variability in PhD timeline and options based on discipline! Congratulations!!! Can't wait to join you in the title of PhD
This video is great! I am currently a medical laboratory scientist looking to continue to medical school in the future and I am hoping to study hematopathology/clinical hematology. You provide good insight on the two paths! I would definitely enjoy seeing more science content from you as I studied histology and pathology in school and your research is fascinating :)
andreazoey95 hi, I was wondering if you would elaborate on your path as a medical laboratory scientist. What steps did you take? I’m interested in this path.
I appreciate this video so much, I know being in high school I do have some time but I’m very confused as to what to do and these types of videos help me so much. Thanks Stephanie!
Hello Stephanie! I recently came across your channel from watching Jeff's videos and I just want to say that I really enjoy these types of videos involving medical studies because they help me get a better grasp of what to prepare for when I go to college. I am a senior in high school and I want study medicine in college and become a doctor (primary care physician/ general practitioner) as of right now, and I have also been interested in possibly studying ways to create vaccines and cures for diseases, but any of this may change as time goes on, although I am certain that I want to work in the field of medicine. These videos are great because I can get an understanding of what to expect in college and I hope you continue to make more videos like this one in the future! I do have a few questions though: is it difficult to balance the gym life, studying, work, and social events like school sporting events while you're in college? And how stressful can everything get?
This video helps me a ton!!! I am currently an exercise science major at Florida Atlantic University. I am finishing up my classes as a senior this semester and begin my internship next semester working within the Muscle Lab (yes, I saw Jeff’s video and fangirled a bit haha). I just do not know yet what I would like to pursue after I graduate in the spring. I have been considering getting my Master’s Degree or PhD but I wanted to know more difference between the two. This video helps give me the PhD side so that helps me out quite a bit. Thank you for putting up these informative videos!
You forgot to mention the path that is in between both. Which is probably the most intensive, with the best of both worlds. MD-PhD! Which is roughly 7-9 years in length for a typical program and this helps people who are interested in clinical research and being a professor. Not to mention most programs are paid. I'm an undergrad and pursuing a MD-PhD.
TheZoeBig There’s a reason why people choose to do combined PhD/MD programs. So before you make such a strong remark you need to do some research my friend
What is up my friends?! I hope you enjoyed this video! Let me know if you like academic videos and let me know if you are in university right now making professional school decisions! I have a chest/shoulders workout video coming next :) Much love! xoxo
so what path are you going to take?
Thanks for the video!!!! I love the academic videos and currently in university
Can you go into research without either? Love research, hate the extra 4-6 years.
the 70% for residency match for MDs is probably explained by the large group of students who end up going to caribbean MD schools instead of staying w/in the US. Those students (IMGs) have a match rate closer to 50%, with US graduates having a match rate of ~95-96%. Great job on the video! i admire your dedication to breast CA research
I signed up with the great course plus, but none of the videos are working......
As an MD (neurological surgery-PGY2) I have an insane amount of respect for the work that phDs do. I feel like often times they are not appreciated to the extent that they should be and I honestly am in awe in the presence of phDs and how passionate they are in their specific niche. Unlike most MDs, you are the forefront of medicine and the advancement of science, technology and medicine lies in your hands. Without phDs, MDs would be nothing, so thank you for all the work you do.
Unless you're an MD/PhD
@@syedahmed1227 Insane amount of schooling. When you're done with all the studying, you could be in your 40's. 😂😂😂
@@caesar4940 Worth it. Especially if you like school.
@@caesar4940 For people who are hungry for knowledge and are passionate abut there field is completely worth it. They are doing something meaningful and fulfilling. Based on your comment you are ignorant to this situation and arrogant. While you have been working on a shitty job we have been getting paid(surprise MF!) and completing something with so much value. If you decide to go in industry, our salaries in just two years would catch up to your salary and surpass it. Lets say you have worked full time for 4 years and earned an average salary of 35000. You have roughly earned around 140000 excluding taxes, etc. A science student working on his/her Phd is getting paid/stipend around 25000 a year. 4 years later they have earned around 100000. Now they go in to industry and get a six figure salary, with one of the biggest accomplishments a human can earn, a Phd. In just two years of work they will blow your earnings out of the water while doing something fulfilling. Nothing can put a value on that. What you see as a waste of time, can be said the same thing for you. What was your last proudest moment? Good day.
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You could've defended your point without insults and without looking down at people who have other priorities and are maybe content with their jobs/it works for them, or on people who would maybe love to work for a phD as well but because of different circumstances they can't and have to choose/settle for a "shitty job", depending on _your_ classification of it.
I can understand the anger and frustration at having something so valued dismissed by others but still.
How to balance school, gym, and meal prepping. What your days looked like during grad school.. your videos are so inspirational! 💛
Thank you!
Ya she does a fantastic job for sure!
Holy cow, videos by smart people are so much better structured and easier to follow. Very informative; nicely done.
I agree. Some videos are just too "cluttered" to keep up with. 😂
Those facial aesthetics
that bias 😘
This is so cute like can you guys be my parents? lmfao
God damn white knights
i’m an MD and i think you gave a really good unbiased view!
Thank you! I think both are amazing options for career paths but there are some statistical facts that are simply just facts. I think those are the things to consider and not one over the other due to stigma or prestige. :)
JenClaire2015 M.D. here as well (radiology). What speciality are you? I did lab research for 5 months during undergrad, don't think I would last 1 year much less a career doing that ;) I am glad there are those that do!
More academic focused videos please! I so greatly enjoy watching these!
When I grow up I want to be as eloquent as you
Do you mind if I ask where you’re obtaining your PhD? I’m double majoring in bio and environmental science at the moment in my third year, and I want to pursue a PhD in animal behavior/ecology or marine biology. My boyfriend and I are currently making a list of grad schools. It feels so overwhelming, and he’s looking into med schools to make it even MORE anxiety inducing. The whole process is just so scary!
Love ur channel
I admire how honest she is when speaking on both paths. Traditionally, when a RUclipsr, for example, makes a video like this, they spend the majority of the video downing the MD path or sugarcoating the downsides of the PhD path. Same goes for RUclipsrs who took the MD path (though not many MDs make videos such as this one). I was genuinely interested in both paths and this video was definitely helpful in giving distinct information on both. Thank you so much for this.
Stephanie, you are the MOST articulate human being on this earth! Coincidentally, my sister (who is in her first year of residency) and I just had a conversation this evening about what her total debt will be, which will be around $270K. Ouch! Anyways, great video as always! 😬
Thank yo for the feedback! I really appreciate it! ❤
It's easy to be articulate when you cut the video after every sentence lol
Good ole' Hardworkin' American it’s just a style of editing. It doesn’t take away from her being articulate :)
skycedi yes it does...
Good ole' Hardworkin' American okay :)
"If you love science and are NOT a people person, they do a PhD" 😂
As a PhD student in infectious disease and outbreak detection... I can fully appreciate this statement and I find myself saying it too often whenever I think could've made more money as an MD 💸😂
Same here. Currently attending my PhD in gender based film studies. Like... DO I LOOK LIKE A PEOPLE PERSON? 😂
Jeff flirting w/ Steph in the comments makes my day awww
hahah it's what we do :)
PhD is really for me, It will be hard, but I love science and want to be one of the people in the head of the expansion of human knowledge
a PhD is normally 3-4 years in the UK. You generally don’t have lectures and go straight into your main work.
You also don't need to publish a paper whereas in the US you have to. It's different in terms of what you get out of it
This video has very little to do with me and my personal career aspirations seeing as I'm a commerce undergrad, but I watched through the whole thing and enjoyed it regardless. Keep up the good work Stephanie! I've been watching your channel since you only had 3 videos up and I've been loving all of them.
I'm not a med or science student, nor anything close to that... but I watched the whole video from start to finish because I just love watching your videos. Amazing content like always!
Great and informative video!
Just thought I would share my personal experience. I started off with an MD straight after completing my undergraduate education. However, a year down the line, I realized that something did not feel right. Medicine and clinical training are challenging and you're really focused on individual patients in time-constrained interactions. After taking a leave of absence, I thought about my career a lot. I decided that I was more passionate about contributing to changes at a population level. I wanted to improve the quality and accessibility of healthcare. As such, I am now applying to MPH programs. So just wanted to point out that a desire to improve health can also develop into a more nuanced passion--the spectrum of healthcare and science is so broad!
Good point!
I was in veterinary school for a semester and felt the same way. After a gap year I am going to go towards research instead.
Great video but the 70% match rate is a little misleading in the context you used it. The 70% match rate is for those applying for a residency position in the US system. This takes into account all of the international graduates who wish to match in the US. Although these international grads may want to work in the US they likely also applied for a residency position in their home country. E.g. if I'm a Canadian medical graduate who would like to work in the US, I'd almost definitely apply to both a Canadian and US residency program. Although my chances of matching to the US is about 50% on average (my rejection would contribute to your 70%) my chances of matching in Canada are very high - 90%+. Therefore, even though I'm classified as rejected according to the US match database and your statistics, there is still a high probability that I match and have a residency. Therefore, if we look at the worldwide statistics for matching it would likely be much higher than 70%. Also if you look at just those who are graduates of US medical schools and apply into the US system, again the match rate jumps to about 94% for MDs and 84% for DO students.
Samuel Sprague I saw no point comparing PhD or MD even, it's not the same thing. If she did nursing and medicine comparison then I understand.
I actually agree with the premise of the video, the PhD and MD are commonly held as the "gold standard" degrees (not necessarily the right opinion to hold in my mind but still very common), so it is logical to compare them. The whole point of my comment was she really missed the mark on the 70% figure. If I was entering a US medical school and preparing to take on 200-300 thousand dollars in debt with a 70% chance of landing a residency after I'd much rather get a nursing degree, which has amazing employment figures. However, if you're accepted to a US MD school as a US citizen your chances are a much more optimistic 94%. Again, I enjoyed this video for the most part and Stephanie's content is very high quality, but this data taken out of context could be a real punch in the gut to someone who is spending their last dollar getting a MD degree. For those who do not match into a residency programs job prospects are very poor when considering the insane debt load and time a student has invested.
Thank you so much for clarifying this. I was very surprised by the statistic and this makes so much more sense to me now because I didn't realize that they wouldn't account for the 30% not matching in the US who actually DID match in a different country.
Glad I could help, I'm a Canadian student myself so I have the benefit of seeing it from the other side! I appreciate the video and all the hard work, this sort of high quality informative content is invaluable to many.
I'm curious if the stat also takes into account the residency "scramble" where graduating med students do not "match" technically but then scramble into a residency program they did not originally match into or if it's just 70% don't match into their original rank list.
I AM IN UNDERGRAD RN BUT REALLY ENJOYED THIS VIDEO!!!!!
As a medical student I absolutely love your content and videos!! I thought this was a great video and I agreed with all of your points and opinions! The neat thing is many schools offer a MD (and DO)/PhD program which opens more doors to each field and allows students to train as clinicians and still do research/work in labs. On NPR there was also a segment talking about a new field being tested out at Texas A and M called "physican-eers" where medical students are immersed in curriculum that blends medical studies with engineering mindsets/studies to further prime students' minds about how to most effectively approach patients and look at all options for treatment/therapy and prevention! Thanks for your great videos and for contributing/spreading knowledge on science (and especially women in science!)
I am also an MD medical student and I would like to include the Physician Assistant option for those more exclusively interested in medicine and less in the science or research. I believe once we start including all the potential positions in medicine and research, many will see that there are endless options depending on your goals for your future and what you enjoy doing. I do not know if she mentioned this, but for either path it is extremely important to immerse yourself prior to your decision by doing an internship or volunteering for a lab or research assistant as well as shadowing physicians, MD's, DO's, PA's and RNP's. It will most likely change your outlook by giving you real life experiences.
I'm an engineering student and this sounds like the best idea EVER
I've been trying to find the episode you were referring to. Do you remember what program it was on NPR? I can't find it.
malyikaj
What would our health care system look like if doctors spoke the same language as engineers?
www.marketplace.org/2017/12/08/education/what-would-our-healthcare-system-look-if-doctors-spoke-same-language-engineers
Jeff brought me here, and I subbed to Jeff for these sorts of vida. You do them way better.
More academic focused videos please! I find it really inspiring and thought provoking since I am an undergrad who is currently debating what I want to do with my future.
I've been interested in going to graduate school for the last two years (I'm in undergrad) and I feel so lost as to if this is the right decision. Most of my professors are pushing me towards grad school citing the debt of medical school, and my interest in genetics and protein research. It was nice seeing both sides of the argument. And the mind set of getting to the root of the problem is why I tend to favor grad school. I want to solve problems not alleviate them. But I'm terrified of not finding a job. It's frustrating trying to imagine where either route would lead.
Ancient Mariner I too am in the same dilemma. But I feel there is no hard and fast rule that one needs a PhD to do research. I feel we can do research with only a MD as well. Anyways I wish you all the best for your future.
Peace be to you! This is perhaps the MOST insightful and informative presentation I have EVER seen pertaining to this topic. I originally wanted to be a Biologist since I was a kid. Sadly, it doesn't pay much in proportion to the vast amount of training one has to do to. I was offered a non-tenured faculty position for less than one-third than what I make as a PA; couldn't do it! 💸😩 While I REALLY enjoy helping people through the practice of medicine, Science, teaching and firness are my TRUE passions! It's so refreshing to see someone who has pursued these. I wish you the VERY best of succes in your positive endeavors! I hope you do more videos discussing you research.
hi there. as a hopeful future PA i wanted your opinion and suggestions on PA-PhD. By doing PA-PhD are we able to compensate for the clinical edge the MD's have?.
I just recently applied to medical school and am now waiting for some interviews and (hopefully) an acceptance! This video was super unbiased and interesting to watch! You speak so well
Can you do a masters vs Ph.D video?
yes please
This video was fantastic and I plan to show it to every STEM student I mentor! I have a PhD in neuroscience and went straight from grad school to a non-reseach role in industry (minus a year or to of contract work...). I knew I always wanted to work in pharma and when I was in grad school I saw how grim it was for my friends who wanted to pursue a path in academia. One thing I would recommend is that if you ever do a future video on this topic to look at those who pursue a PharmD. I wish I had known more about this option when I was an undergrad. I thought being a PharmD meant you were stuck at CVS for the rest of your life but PharmD's are highly sought after in industry. Also, your estimates for what a PhD makes in industry for a salary are really on the low side, especially if you factor in bonuses and stock options. Love your videos!!!!
Lightly unrelated to the topic of the video, but every time you make videos where you talk about your research I get a bit giddy because I understand more of what you’re taking about each time. I’m a first year in a bioscience technician program at a college in Ontario, & I don’t really run across people discussing what I’m studying much in every day life so it’s so cool hearing someone else talk about it. :3
(I got excited when you said biomarkers, I’m writing an essay on biomarkers for ADHD right now as a final project for one of my classes.)
Hi Stephanie I'm currently in undergraduate sophomore for a Bachelor in Science in Korea and I study biotechnology! I found ur channel watching fun nutrition/fitness videos in youtube;) As someone trying to balance studying, exploring my passion, working out,beauty, and a ton of other things I found your videos soooooooo helpful and entertaining on top of being inspirational too. I find it so wonderful and inspiring that you would take care of yourself so well while pouring hours and hours of soul and hard work into your doctoral research
You got my support 😘
I’m a subscriber now! Thank you for making videos that actually teach young people about the real world. Don’t get me wrong I love your workout videos too, but really appreciate these academic style videos especially for my teenagers!
The way you described someone who should study PhD was so spot on for me. A.) science obsessed, b.) not a people person, c.) research fanatic! Gosh I’m already stressing about my future education and careers, and I’m not even 17 yet! I don’t want to be a professor, nor a researcher (which would be more preferable). I want to become a forensic scientist, but want to pursue a high education. I admire how you are such a hard worker! I mean, a bachelors, 2 masters AND a PhD!
Agreed!
I always love how you back up these informative videos with strong information! LOVE IT
Great vid! My wife is a 1st year pathology resident and oh boy, was med school challenging. Just 3 more years (CP&AP) of residency and 2 fellowships to go...
Exactly. Most people don’t understand how difficult medical school truly is.. It’s one of those things that you just have to experience!
Would love to see a video on how you studied through school! I’m starting nursing school next semester and I plan to get my DNP (Doctorate in Nursing) eventually. I’m new to weight lifting and I’m a huge science nerd like you! So seeing how you studied all this complicated science/physiology and balanced everything would be super helpful. ❤️
Congrats on defending your Thesis.
Just wanting to highlight that British PhDs (and European PhDs in general for that matter) operate differently.
PhD = 3 years here, and at the end of it you submit your thesis for examination. You have a viva with an internal and an external examiner (maybe an independent chair), it is not an open event... Then, after ~3 hours of 'grilling' you anxiously wait outside after the examiners deliberate... Eventually, you are invited back into the room where they tell you what they liked and didn't like, before informing you whether you have passed or not.
FUN! xD
Some in Europe have an open viva and also require you to publish your research in order to be awarded your PhD (my friend at KU Leuven in Belgium needs to do this!)
Applyin to Medical School after my last year of Orgo Chem. Absolutely love your channel & Jeff's! lol I'm a kinesiology major soo watching him helps me with my fitness and classes like biomechanics & movement anatomy lol
Yes, please do more academic videos. As someone currently applying to grad schools, your advise is truly appreciated!
I really appreciate the methodology behind this video. You put a lot of effort into this and I think it will help out a lot of people!
Just saying, but you don't need to complete a post doc to get a job in the industry! You can get a job in the industry with just a phd
Absolutely! And if you do, more power to you! I was just outlining a more traditional pathway for our current environment however "traditional" is also a bad term. The job of "post-doc" didn't even used to exist before there were too many PhDs for the number of professor positions. All that to say that I agree lol
Great content steph, Im a bio major at Umass and I love the academic material you add to your videos. Big into fitness and im looking into PA school when I get my undergrad hopefully ill be as successful as you and Jeff!
Im currently pursuing a Biomedical Sciences degree, hoping to go all the way up to PhD! I would love & die to get the chance to research for cures of diseases! & overall somehow contribute to helping people! My main drive & motivation comes from 1) The enthusiasm of helping the ones effected & finding cures 2) Pursuing a career in teaching as a professor! (I apologize for my bad English). I cant wait to contribute to field of medicine & science!!!! :D
If you are not a people person, but are really smart and can act like you're a people person for 8-9 years, you can still be an MD and choose pathology or radiology.
hahah very true!! But from what I understand, radiology is a very competitive residency.
Yon Park lol I considered that
I definitely like these academically minded videos. That’s why I started following your channel.
You really make me want to educate myself... your content is phenomenal! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing, not only this video but for sharing so much knowledge throughout your channel. Please know we appreciate you so much.
So much support - from Canada 🇨🇦
I love this! I’m currently a pre-med in a masters program trying to get into medical school. I will warn people it is a HARD AND LONG road, either way. The med school world is extremely competitive and it also requires a thick skin and a lot of self confidence in your own ability to learn. Even the application process tends to scare people away. Don’t give up if it’s your dream. It’s worth it if you can’t picture yourself doing anything else.
Another good topic I never see talked about are the professional doctorate programs for practitioners. Many of these are fantastic alternatives for those that know what field they want to practice in, and aren't interested in M.D. residency and cost, or research and academic jobs for Ph.Ds, when instead they can immediately focus on a specialized field. Typically they range from 4 - 6 years and some of the healthcare practices do offer residency and fellowships, and can have Ph.D. co-tracks. Some of the more well known, and have great expected job growth include.
Doctor of Audiology - Au.D. - (Ever since 2007, the Au.D. is now required to practice in the U.S., job market is VERY good due to this. Baby boomer generation will increase further.)
Doctor of Chiropractic Medicine - D.C. (For some reason the most hated by M.D. and D.O.)
Doctor of Dentistry - D.D.S. or D.M.D. - Floss
Doctor of Nursing Practice - D.N.P. - Very good for those with BSN's that want to further their career greatly. Plans to transition this to a doctorate required field by 2030, currently only a Master's is needed and those holding MSN will be grandfathered into this, no extra graduate studies will be necessary. Good for those wanting to provide family or pediatric practices.
Doctor of Optometry - O.D. (A very competitive graduate program to get into. Not many Optometry programs in the U.S., and most take a maximum of 50-70. Take the Optometry Admission Test.)
Doctor of Pharmacy - Pharm.D. - If you work for a large retail pharmacy, they have been known to award up to 33% towards tuition if you are a Pharmacy Tech. to pursue graduate studies.
Doctor of Physical Therapy - D.P.T. - Like Chiropractic medicine, this has been controversial as a "credential creep" in the job market. Wages are on the lower side for Doctorate employees.
Doctor of Podiatric Medicine - D.P.M. - The closest to D.O. you can get, as you WILL be in Med School with M.D. / D.O.'s for the first 2 years of graduate studies, just focused on lower extremities. One of the few that performs major surgeries and requires the MCAT. 9 Schools available in the US.
Doctor of Psychology - Psy.D. - Psychotherapy and testing. Industrial/Engineering Psychologists make extreme wages, though Private Practice is unlimited in theory.
Doctor of Veterinary Medicine - Competitive and can specialize in different fields or animals.
Definitely a video on how you balanced everything in graduate school! As someone planning to start a phd program in the fall, I'm very interested what other students' lives look like (especially with balancing a fitness lifestyle)!
Yes please! I love this kind of videos cause I'm a Spanish research student and I'm considering to undergo a PhD. I think the situation here is even worst than in the US but as you said, you have to think what is your passion in life. Anyway, good luck with your next adventures and I'll be tune to know more about them! :D
I don't normally comment on youtube videos but as a failed Ph.D. student, I feel compelled to comment. I hate comparisons between an M.D. and a Ph.D. in biomedical sciences. I understand that the two often work together and most Ph.D. programs in biomedical sciences work out of medical schools or are assigned to medical schools. However, the two vary greatly in terms of employability, salary, and duties.
One thing to keep in mind is an M.D. can do biomedical research (Ph.D. type research). A quick google search of the top medical research universities in the United States confirms many M.Ds do in fact have labs and do biomedical research in addition to their clinical duties. The real difference is that a Ph.D. can NEVER have clinical duties for obvious reasons. Many Ph.D. students even are assigned to M.Ds as I was when I was a graduate student. Even to further complicate matters, PharmDs, DDS, and DVMs also are capable of having biomedical research labs. It makes one wonder why to pursue a Ph.D. at all if there are alternatives to pursuing biomedical research as a career but I guess there are other reasons.
I've been to enough career seminars where people try to compare pathways between an MD or Ph.D. and all I can say is you simply can't or shouldn't. The two degrees are not on an equal playing field. I'm sorta hand waving, if not outright ignoring the elephant in the room but it has more to do with me trying to not have a "wall-of-text."
The last thing I want to mention is the job market for PhDs in the life sciences is absolutely atrocious and has been for some time with it getting steadily worse. The short answer is that there are far too many PhDs in the job market than there jobs. If you're not crushing it in graduate school with publications in Nature and Cell, I think you'll find yourself doing the eternal post-doc for a good part of your career/life until you can find a better-paying position. You should also keep in mind that salaries in post-docs can vary wildly and are nowhere near close to what an M.D. will earn after they complete a residency program. I can't really speak about the industry but I heard it's even harder to get into the industry than it is to get a postdoc at a top-tier institution.
Tl;DR, Even though you shouldn't compare the two, I recommend doing an M.D. over a Ph.D. for the simple fact that an M.D. can do biomedical research just as well as a Ph.D.
Your channel is my one stop shop for things I want to know more about in life.
I love academic videos, you totally inspired me to pursue my masters! Im not in the medical field, but im in the international trade field. Thanks for not being and empty head fitness girl ;). This was the second video I watch of you, and I subscribed, looking forward to more of your insights and knowledge.
Thank you i was so confused but you broke it down perfectly. thank you MD is the path i want to take.
Your enunciation is flawless.
Very very helpful! I am currently an international medical graduate (IMG), I also have studied biotechnology. I have been struggling between a clinical path and research because I like both. Maybe someday I obtain a Ph.D., but after you clarifying me some things, I'll try to match into residency, and if I can't, I have 2 master's degrees in my mind.
Most likeable female fitness RUclipsr IMO
because being likeable is the most important quality any woman should have amirite
@@AB-qb4eh Being likeable is a bad thing? lmao. Did you want to apologize for this compliment?
Hi Stephanie! I just wanted to let you know this video really was super helpful for me. I am a semester away from graduating from with my bachelors in psychology and it has been so stressful trying to figure out what my next step should be, MD or PhD. Thank you so so much for sharing this :)
graduating with the same degree and having the same struggle in 2023... xD I wonder what you decided to do?
Happy to have chanced upon your vlog! I started my PhD early last year but had to stop for a while because I went back to teaching in college. Goon one! And congrats for your PhD
I totally agree with you that a person should pursue their dreams and as a retired chemist who worked for a very large government water and power utility have no regret working in industry. I realize that it is very difficult to see the future but, people have to make decisions.
Great video! I’m a first year medical student and fitness enthusiast, and I love your science based fitness videos. Super helpful for both my personal and professional life 💛
This video was a life saver. I used to spend sleepless nights in worry and confusion regarding which career path to take (MD vs PhD). But after watching this video all my doubts got cleared and i have got a clear cut idea about which path i should take. I cannot thank you enough for the help you have provided me by making this video. Thank you soooooo much. God bless.
I'm completing my undergrad in pursuit of an MD right now. I knew I definitely wanted to be an MD and this video confirmed it. I get good grades in my labs but I wouldn't say I find lab particularly interesting. I love your videos so much and I was especially excited to see this one come out 😊❤️
Thank you for the nice video that illustrated the differences between MD and PhD. I am a medical doctor who completed his residency recently in South Africa and I found conducting research is very exciting as you have questions that you are looking for answers for it. Therefore, I had decided to pursue my career by obtaining a PhD. My personal opinion that every medical doctor should be a clinical scientist by completing the residency and doing PhD as well.
Regards
OH. MY. GOSH!!! I can not thank you enough. Thank you so much for the in depth information. Thank you for data and personal opinion. Knowing how someone who’s actually participated in this, makes it easier for me to decide. I truly appreciate it. I’ll definitely be adding this to my playlist!! BE BLESSED!!😘😘
I agree with you. However, MD gigs if you cannot get on as a contracting hospitalist or have the money to become a partner with another doc you are screwed especially if you cannot get matched. You can still practice as a doc if you do not get matched but the chances of you getting a practice rights at a hospital are very slim to none. This means you cannot admit, treat, prescribe, or give orders to a nurse in case of an emergency to any patients in the hospital. It would have been better financially if you became an NP or a PA. Most who do not get matched become pharm reps. As for a PhD, chose your discipline very carefully because it can be a financial disaster. Academic jobs come dime of a dozen unless you teach at the local trade college (not tenure but it pays the bills). When comparing the MD to a PhD the MD is equivalent to a masters versus a PhD is terminal. In some environments a PhD trumps the MD and some cases vice versa.
In the US, it is on the books in most states that you can't practice unless you at least do an intern year. Most residency programs have the intern year built in because Family Practice (US equivalent to GP) requires 3 years of post graduate training now. Also, the states she had for US matching were not the best because it included international medical graduates who applied for US residency and do not get accepted to a US training program. Some of those people may have done a program in their country instead. There is a 94% match rate for US allopathic (MD) medical students and 82% for osteopathic (DO) medical students. However, the American Osteopathic Association has its own matching program as well, but the two accreditation councils (American Osteopathic Association & American Medical Association) are planning on merging by 2020. I am not sure what this will mean for matching in the future.
Thank you for this great video, I finish my DMD program & I just started doing topic search for my Ph.D and this video helped a lot.
Keep up the amazing work
I’m currently in my third year of a pharmacology BSc (Hons) in Scotland and this was such a helpful video! 👍🏻
does this major contribute in finding cures to neuro diseases?
Beautifully presented and summarized. Both MD and PhD programs are rigorous. If one is completely going to grad/med school purely for the financial payoff, I would agree that the MD route is the best to take. I know a guy who has an MD/DMD and is an oral surgeon, works in a group of 4, and makes really good money (400-500k/year, so he tells me).
I was so excited about this video, this summer I'm applying to combined MD/PhD programs!
I really enjoyed your video! I can't believe I'm just found your channel lol ( this vid was in my recommendations). Also, congratulations on earning your PhD in pathology & cell biology 👏🏽🙌🏽! I'm a pre-med (non-traditional) & I've always been interested in biology & anatomy/physiology!! Definitely have subscribed 🙂!
That was beautifully organized and executed. Thank you so much, this video is a huge help!
Really love these academia videos! I'm not a med student (psychology student here) but this was still interesting and helpful as we also have the option to either go into "people"-based work or research :)
Currently watching this as a break from my Clinical Psychology Ph.D. applications. Thanks for another great video!
I am a professor and I LOVE my job! Never ever looked back. It’s been worth it all!
Love this Stephanie, have been a premed/ fitness nerd and your video completely nailed it on the coffin between these two similar yet different fields!!
Thank you for this! Very insightful. I was having a hard time deciding on which route to go but I have an idea of what I want to do now😊
I love everything about this!! I love that you are a woman in science and academia! So great! Keep changing the world, girl!!
Love the way you framed this video!
Thanks Steph! This is very helpful and informative! I’m a mechanical engineering undergrad and have an interest pursuing a PhD on medical device design or being an orthopedic surgeon in the future. It’s hard to decide and there are so many things to consider. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Hello! I’m doing a BSc in molecular biology and I just wanted to thank you for being an inspiration! I would love to watch more videos of your reaserach/ what you do in labs/ academics :) after following you, I tried to get involved in uni like asking to volunteer in my profs’ research lab but to no avail. How did you start gaining experience in labs to get you where you are now?
I’m a creative writing major so I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum but because it’s a video of yours I clicked on it! So eloquent and poised.
Loved this video Stephanie! Would love to see more videos about your career and story time videos about grad school and such!
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Really enjoyed this video Steph, I am a UK phd in ecology and thinking about what to do next so this was handy and interesting to hear about the US experience
Great video!! The only statistic I'd like to address and further clarify is when you stated that 70% of people who apply to residency get one. More specifically, if you attend an American MD school, your chances of matching into residency is 95%. That's about the same as the pass rate for the national medical board exams which influence where you can go. For international medical grads, it's about a 50% acceptance rate and is ungodly hard. I'd have to look up what it is for Americans who attend international medical schools and then apply to residency. But essentially, if you get into an American MD school, even though you have a lot of hard work ahead of you, your dreams of becoming a practicing physician are almost gold. It's people from foreign medical schools which drop that number :)
Nice layout of the differences. Like you said, those numbers are averages but paint a fair picture of what to expect. What’s the work week like as a PhD in terms of average hours? It’s hard to quantify for a med student, but as a resident a lot of people may not realize that they’ll be working on average 80 hours per week (roughly the equivalent of two full time jobs), with some being more and some being less. I would guess writing a dissertation also takes up a lot of time, just wondered more about the average time needed in a week for a PhD and post doc as someone who took the other route.
The amount of hours are probably similar..I know PhDs and post-docs who literally sleep in their lab. During my PhD, if I had a 14 hour experiment that had to have images taken every 2 hours after (ie fluorescent imaging) then it was an all nighter for me. When I was writing my dissertation, I was getting 2-3 hours of sleep. On the flip side, I had friends in med school and residency who also never slept. The system is proliferating a bunch of unhealthy health professionals lol.
I'm doing my PhD in computational biology right now, and only work 40ish hours a week, and that's fairly typical for my field. During the first few years when I was also taking classes I was working a bit more, maybe closer to 50 hours a week, though it could get as high as 70 when I had exams. I think it depends mostly on the person, but also the specific research field and the student's adviser.
Very good point :)
Great video!! It's so interesting the variability in PhD timeline and options based on discipline! Congratulations!!! Can't wait to join you in the title of PhD
OMG OMG OMG I was waiting for this video for a long time. This cleared lots of my doubts. Thank you so so much 😄😊😊😊
This video is great! I am currently a medical laboratory scientist looking to continue to medical school in the future and I am hoping to study hematopathology/clinical hematology. You provide good insight on the two paths! I would definitely enjoy seeing more science content from you as I studied histology and pathology in school and your research is fascinating :)
andreazoey95 hi, I was wondering if you would elaborate on your path as a medical laboratory scientist. What steps did you take? I’m interested in this path.
Omgggggg lol cause why I’m in school for clinical lab science and was looking to futher my education with clinical pathology
I have been looking for something like this for a really long time now. Thank you so much, this really helps!
I appreciate this video so much, I know being in high school I do have some time but I’m very confused as to what to do and these types of videos help me so much. Thanks Stephanie!
Hello Stephanie! I recently came across your channel from watching Jeff's videos and I just want to say that I really enjoy these types of videos involving medical studies because they help me get a better grasp of what to prepare for when I go to college. I am a senior in high school and I want study medicine in college and become a doctor (primary care physician/ general practitioner) as of right now, and I have also been interested in possibly studying ways to create vaccines and cures for diseases, but any of this may change as time goes on, although I am certain that I want to work in the field of medicine. These videos are great because I can get an understanding of what to expect in college and I hope you continue to make more videos like this one in the future! I do have a few questions though: is it difficult to balance the gym life, studying, work, and social events like school sporting events while you're in college? And how stressful can everything get?
It is difficult but nothing unmanageable. Time management is key :)
And thank you for the thoughtful feedback 🙏
Stephanie Buttermore thank you so much for taking the time to respond! I really appreciate it!😁
i love the great courses, I am so glad they supported this video of yours- it makes me so happy. the best things tend to converge
This video helps me a ton!!! I am currently an exercise science major at Florida Atlantic University. I am finishing up my classes as a senior this semester and begin my internship next semester working within the Muscle Lab (yes, I saw Jeff’s video and fangirled a bit haha). I just do not know yet what I would like to pursue after I graduate in the spring. I have been considering getting my Master’s Degree or PhD but I wanted to know more difference between the two. This video helps give me the PhD side so that helps me out quite a bit. Thank you for putting up these informative videos!
You forgot to mention the path that is in between both. Which is probably the most intensive, with the best of both worlds. MD-PhD! Which is roughly 7-9 years in length for a typical program and this helps people who are interested in clinical research and being a professor. Not to mention most programs are paid. I'm an undergrad and pursuing a MD-PhD.
Second year resident here! Went to school over seas to avoid that hefty debt! Now I get 52k before tax. Great video
I know that this video is a bit older but I am sitting on the fence right now and I really appreciated your insight!
i love academic focused videos & love your fitness focused videos. i heart vlogs, as well. gimme all the vlogs.
Great vid Steph. Definitely more academic videos. Maybe about sport Science too.
Welp what about an MD/Ph.D? Best of both worlds lol
If you have an MD, a PhD is almost useless.
TheZoeBig he’s talking about a combined md PhD program
Ben Nguyen Yeah but what’s the point? The only reason I could think of is teaching at a medical school and even then either degree is usually fine.
TheZoeBig There’s a reason why people choose to do combined PhD/MD programs. So before you make such a strong remark you need to do some research my friend
@@bennguyen2974 - Would you mind sharing what those reasons are?