The Vought Corsair; Forgotten Original
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I got in trouble in USMC boot camp for _knowing_ about this aircraft and contradicting a Drill Instructor with regard to the first "Corsair" to see service with the Marines.
Imagine getting knowledge smoked by a Marine trainee. That DS must've been furious both out on the field and in his quarters.
That would not be a pleasant experience! 😮
@willemsma and that is why I hate the army system...
Sometimes it’s better to keep quiet , but then again sometimes it’s worth it to speak up , even if it hurts for a while. Clearly that was a case of the latter
DS: already a qualified Crayon Eater
You: weren't yet a qualified Crayon Eater, and you needed some edumacating....
The Corsair - they have a O2U Corsair at he Royal Thai Air Force Museum in Bangkok!
I believe this is a version of the SBU.
Now this was a forgotten aircraft worthy of remembering. Great stuff.
I've always wondered why the F4U wasn't designated Corsair II and the A-7 designated Corsair III. As an aside, there's an old 1929 Frank Capra movie starring Jack Holt about Marine aviators who end up fighting in Central America. It's called "Flight" and contains some amazing stunt flying. It can be seen on RUclips. I believe the aircraft used in the combat sequences are the original Marine Vought Corsairs.
There's actually 4 Corsairs. The O2U, SBU, F4U, and A-7. I can only guess it's something related to the F4U wasn't built by Chance Vought Aircraft and was built by the Vought-Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation
To be honest. The F4U is neat and all, but I find this more interesting. Thanks for highlighting this for me mate and keep up the excellent work.
Very interesting. I'll have to visit the RTAF museum when I'm next in Bangkok coz, thanks to you, I'm aware that they have some interesting and rare aircraft.
I love hearing about this kind of interwar aircraft. Generationally overlooked.
I truly love your vids and regret that they are usually quite short, despite the amount of stellar information you pack into them--your lengthy reports upon the Myanmar Resistance struggle notwithstanding. This aircraft and your presentation is now one of my favorites from among all your vids, Ed. Thank you again!
Same 😂
I had almost forgotten about this Corsair!...
Funnily enough I had discovered it in a Pratt&Whitney brochure from the nineties...
Thank you for reminding it to me. Cool aircraft!
In that scene in King Kong the pilot that kills Kong is his creator, Producer and Director Meriam Cooper. Cooper was a pilot in WWI flying DH4’s and in the Polish-Soviet War flying various aircraft. Later he returned to USAAC service in China under Chennault and under Kenney in 2 more air groups. His final rank was Brigadier General.
King Kong was a small puppet.
Sorry.
@@DuncanHolland Yes, it was a stop motion puppet designed by Obie O’Brien. There was layers done for each scene, including painted glass plates. For the time this was state of the art. Cooper absolutely refused to have a man in a gorilla suit. In Mighty Joe Young a very young Ray Harryhausen became O’Brien’s apprentice. The Japanese using an after in a gorilla suit was that the copyright lapsed due to a lawyer not renewing it. Also, Republic Pictures hadn’t kept certain important documents. There was a massive suit over the rights that included Di Laurentis. Each of the 3 was craved a portion of what they controlled. One of the things that Cooper estate won was the comic book rights.
Hi Ed! Lovely to see another video on a plane a lot of us have heard of, but dont know much about
Every days a school day, on this channel.👍 Great video.
Thank you for covering these aircraft, I did not realize that Vought had made 2 more military multipurpose aircraft effectively foreshadowing the F4U
Thanks, Ed. I've known about the earlier Corsair, but never knew the full history. That's quite a run, although by the end the design changes -- mainly the bigger engine and enclosed cockpits - led to the Corsair looking a bit... Franken-plane-ish, IMO. But it's amazing that an example still exists. It would be great if the U.S. could buy it and put it into the Smithsonian.
Weirdly, I read just yesterday that a museum has just built a replica of one!
Thanks Ed, now I'll go back to freezing myself solid in Canberra.
Interesting! I had no idea that there was an "original" Corsair and that it was a fine aircraft! Thanks!
Ed brings the goods every time.
All the history I never knew about a little-known family of aircraft and wondered about. Thanks for the deep dive into the Corsair! Semper Fi!!
Excellent presentation Thanks Ed.
5:37 - I like to hear/read where someone gets the MOH for saving lives - rather than taking them.
Now if only they would award it to Hugh Thompson Jr. and his crew (posthumously, I am afraid).
Thank you for posting this.
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Thai Corsairs were also notably involved in the Battle of Koh Chang against France, where they made a failed bombing run on the French fleet. The Thais in general were pretty wacky with their license built American planes, like their modified Curtiss Hawk 75s with 23mm Madsen cannons.
Very interesting vid and proof that superior designs may also be forgotten.
Wow great video, I had absolutely no idea this plane even existed! 😮 Definitely the definition of a “forgotten aircraft.
It also seems almost criminal that there aren’t more examples preserved. Heck, I’d assume there were even a few flying examples!
4:18 now those look like “air pirates!”
Hi Ed! Great history covering a forgotten airplane that serve in my country! Greating from Argentina
I almost forgot. I like the look of the first Corsair. Looks really good to me.
a great very interesting video and aircraft Mr.Ed.have a good one Mr.
Much awaited, much appreciated looking forward to excellent insights as always from you.
Look, if its wings aren't bent in the middle, it ain't a Corsair!
Or a Stuka. It's not a Stuka either.
The F-8 counts, doesn't it? It's wing is bent in the middle, but only for takeoff and landing
@@olivergs9840 Must have spinny nose. Smiley nose does not count.
Unless it's a Stuka. Spinny AND Smiley nose count if it's a Stuka.
An f4's wings are bent a bit left of the middle.
I believe that the Corsair in the RTAF museum appeared in an Old Navy commercial.
You can understand folk thinking they were Corsairs which took on King Kong
Afterall...... They did have a proven record of use countering Guerillas
Haha, ZING!! Well-played, good sir.
I remember building the rareplanes vacform kit of the Corsair when i got obsessed with 'Yellow Wings' of the interwar U,S, Marines and Navy. They are portrayed flying the attack in Peter Jackson's King Kong, all be it A.I, but enjoyable enough.
Can you do one on the PB-1G? I know it’s just a coast guard b-17 but the photo of it with a lifeboat strapped to the bottom seems like it’d be cool to talk about. Great video!
"Dispatching the Furry Menace" is 100% a euphemism for something dirty, I just haven't figured out what
Worked at LTV in the 70's. Built A-7's.
Funny how, while the Corsair II shape is unmistakeable, this obscure ancestor is suprisingly featureless: with or without a Naca hood, with or without wheel covers, two or three different tail shapes....this is a true John Doe of an aircraft!
The Corsair II was a jet, the A-7. That sort of cements the O2U's forgotten status!
@@stevetournay6103 You're right🤦...what a moron i am! Anyway, my point is clear.,..the F4U is at least iconic, that other Vought biplane is not, by any stretch of fantasy.
@@Riccardo_Silva Perhaps it should be. For its time it was every bit of a multi-role aircraft as the F4U, and did you ever see an F4U on floats?
Gorgeous looking aircraft, the one in the Thai museum looks stunning! 👌
@2:10 with a top speed of 151mph, this made the Corsair faster than any potential foe, thus enabling it to... catch em all.
(There was a Coast Guard plane in the mix of photos, also. Probably not a big customer. Coast Guard, despite then being under the Treasury Department, never had a lot of money to spend.)
As I understand it they tended to get hand me downs from the Navy as the newer models came into service. As a result I believe that the USCG used Corsairs for anti-sub patrols early in WW2.
"Planely" One more reason to visit Thailand
Thanks Ed Nash.....
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Excellent. Sad that they didn't get the ape credit, but it would probably look bad in retrospect...
Interesting to also reflect that in the Nicaragua (?) marines missions, if the pilot flew 18 wounded out in 10 flights, that's two passengers on most flights, so he was probably quite heavily loaded...
What!?! the Corsairs didn't put an end to King Kong? I'm just... devastated. I think I need to lie down now...😢
i am not a pilot, neither a big fan of biplanes. but now i'd like to have one. always the same when watching a video about nice but forgotten aircraft here.
Excelente!! Grato pelo vídeo e pelas informações 🌟
We true aerophiles know of the very first corsair and its service life. Never understood why the F4U /FG -1 was never rebranded the corsair II and the A-7 being the corsair III
Aircraft suggestion?
F-14 Tomcat whilst in Iranian service.
I believe it is a relatively forgotten aircraft.
And the stories of it are fascinating (to me, at least).
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Argentina also used a variant of this Corsair.
Your channel is must see IMO.
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Fantastic video!! I need to find some models of these (if they exist 😭)
5:20 18 wounded Marines evac'd in ten flights, with a two seat-plane...(does math with fingers)...THEY STRAPPED THEM TO THE WINGS, DIDN'T THEY???
G'day,
Probably not.
Take out the Gun, Ammo, and Radio, and the Airframe could probably lift two 1920s-vintage 170-pound Average Human Males, without even being out of it's CG Limits...
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Great video on a long forgotten plane. One small item though; there is no such medal as the congressional Medal of Honor. There is a Medal of Honor however.
You know, I always thought it was the CMoH but after looking into it after your comment you are quite right. I stand corrected.
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So the OU-1 was the father of the current UH-1Y/UH-60M didn't see that coming
The Voight Marketing people had nothing to offer except "Corsair" for too long!
We need a airfix model of this....i need a airfix model of this
The only one ive found is the Rareplanes vac form kits, which aren't that difficult to build if you have some experience in kit building.
@@jonathansteadman7935 i just hate vacfoms so that will be a definitive no from me unfortunately
Makes me glad they didn't name the F7U the Corsair II.
Why wasn't the F4U the Corsair II and the Corsair II the Corsair III?
Gen Schilt went on to a long career and died at 91. Buried at ANC
Could you do a video on the do.22 or s.o. 405 vulture?
I’ve long said the A-7 should have been named Corsair III or IV.
Pirates of the Caribean still had more iterations.
Great I never knew that the Corsair II is in fact the Corsair III and the II being the III. 14:19
Given the reasons Chiquita has been in the news lately, this is timely. Smedly Butler had it right. Most of the time war is nothing but a racket.
TALK ABOUT PLEASED - *A CORSAIR (1945 type) & a MUSTANG flew more or less directly over our house this arvo*
At no more than 1500 feet too I suspect
Huge Din - *Wonderful*
No idea what they were doing or why .... but .... Gift Horse / mouth right?
So, the A7 should have been called Corsair III?
Of course it wasn't the Corsairs that took down King Kong. It was beauty that killed the beast.
Too bad Vought couldn't keep up the pace with the Vindicator.
The many so called ' banana wars ' hahahaha yeah, bananas ? Go Navy 🇺🇲
Do the Vickers Vulcan please. M
Wouldn't this make the A-7 the Corsair III or even IV?
Lol yes, I'll be doing the actual corsair ii very soon 😁
I must admit to most likely mistaking this Corsair model for a Boeing P-12 or Curtiss Hawk owing to the squared off fin design. Even the later rounded rudder looks like the Boeing P-26 fin. It seems everyone stylistically copied each other during the interwar period. Couldn't mistake the nxt gen F4U for a P-40 or a B-17 even though most innovations of these aircraft manufacturers are borrowed from Jack Northrops genius.
imagine the embarrassment of that French colonial pilot who got shot down by a Biplane
This was really interesting. However, reusing a name is more than lame. Why. There are so many many other 'words' available.
WOW ! A LOT of feedback from your microphone boom. (wrrnnnng wrronnnggg with every word, how annoying).
Although I knew of this first Corsair, I knew nothing about it. What an amazing and truly eye opening presentation. Kudos to you, Ed, for the work you put into this. Do you do civilian aircraft? WACO, the Waco Aircraft Company (pronounced 'wah-co', not 'way-co'), put out a wide range of civilian biplanes, enough for a quite lengthy video. Many are still flying today. Interested? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Aircraft_Company
Yes! I know Waco primarily for the gliders, but they are one of those companies worth digging into. Cheers.