I want to share with all of you an alternative perspective. Recently during my travels I stopped in at Music Villa in Bozeman MT. I was taking a risk because it was the first time comparing a variety of their best guitars with my twenty year old Taylor and I knew there was the chance I might find something there i couldn’t live without. My conclusion is that once you get above the $2k price range, most every guitar is amazing with very subtle differences if any. After picking a few favorites, I walked out of that guitar store happy with the guitar I left at home. I realized then how much we guitar enthusiasts can overthink owning or collecting guitars taking for granted the real quality of that well crafted instrument that’s been inspiring us in recent years. In this video I found neither guitar to be better than the other. They’re both incredible and I would feel blessed to have either one. It really comes down to personal taste. If the guitar brings you joy to pick up and play and if it pushes your abilities toward a much high level, keep it for life and don’t muddy it ever by thinking that you have to have the best one out there. The best guitar in the world may be the one you already have at home.
@@hughnguyen1772 You have a point to a point. The OP stated that once you get above 2k, it IS difficult to find differences. Your 7k and 4k are above 2k the last time I checked. Sure you can spend 20 grand if that's what you want to do... The question is will it get you anywhere.
great point. If you have the time to really read, and I mean really read the details you will find the one that is the base and all bling is built after that. I would submit, Larrivee. The OM3. This was tough as I have a Red Furch Dread and that Taylor sounds so so so good!
If you’re a luthier then you probably know that size matters. The Furch is a bit larger than the Taylor. The Furch does sounds differently than the Taylors. Again, if you’re a luthier then you would know better. Different tone woods and volumes on different guitars definitely make the guitars sound differently. Even guitars of the same made and model sound differently from one another technically. The more expensive Furch does sound great fortunately.
I would go with the Furch. I have tried both in stores and personally I could never get much projection from a Taylor grand auditorium guitar, but a Furch easily sings with my light touch. I prefer the tone as well. It has more warmth. I also have the Furch red deluxe GC-LC and it is incredible
As an owner of 6 Furch guitars, I'm going with the Furch. The Taylor sounds good, but it just doesn't have the richness the Furch does and is too bright. I can attest that each Furch I own opens up very quickly and they continue to do so. The other aspect, which is important to me is that the CNR system in Furch guitars is superb. My necks don't move. They're kept in a controlled environment, but they are stable! Furch is a win win for anyone looking for one.
I encountered the same dilemma last year. Furch Red Master's Choice vs Taylor 814 among other Taylors. As much as I have loved my Taylor's, in the end there was no contest between them. The Furch was and remains "the one" as nothing else compares in my personal experience. She plays and sits perfectly. Her sound is balanced and nuanced. Most importantly, she begs to be played and called upon to create beautiful things. And when you oblige her, she keeps her promises. Yes, my Furch is that good. Our music together seems more special. We simply fit each other.
I like my Taylor 814ce Builder’s Edition but I would love to have a cocobolo Furch; and I did end up buying the Furch. I would also love to have a Brazilian rosewood guitar; and I will probably get one if I can afford it. It comes down to what you can afford. And if you can afford to have more than one guitar then you would probably get another guitar than the Furch after you get the Furch. The Furch, especially with Cocobolo, is quite more expensive than the Taylor. Every guitar sound differently than all other guitars. Two guitars of the same make, model, and year sound differently technically. Cocobolo definitely sounds differently than rosewood.
Very similar looks, but quite different sounds. I know why Furch is so popular in the comments. It's definitely warmer, and it seemed to take harder strumming MUCH better. It sounded like a Martin. But that is also part of the charm that Taylor has, it does NOT sound like a Martin. The Furch has more bass to it, but at times I felt it overpowered the mids and highs. And frankly though I like warm, the Furch almost came off as "dull" or muddy at times to me. But the Taylor "sang". It was crisp and clear. Though sometimes I did feel it sounded a bit thin, but only at times. So for my style of playing (fingerstyle, though simple... very much a melody player), the Taylor edged out the Furch this time. But both are fantastic guitars. That said, I love the Furch back bevel in the waist. I wish Taylor did that. Their "builder's edition" guitars have nailed the arm bevel and the cutaway compound bevel... but oh to have that back waist bevel along with it. Cheers!
I think they both sound incredible when the condenser mic is used! There is a huge difference when they are plugged in! The Taylor ES2 is not as clear and defined as the Furch! With all the different playing styles you went through this was a fair representation! I would keep the Furch!
After playing Taylors for 25 years to my surprise Furch red master overclassed the Taylor 814 ce in all means. So I purchased it yesterday after narrow comparison.
I have been playing guitar for over fifty years I own nine guitars and seven are Taylors,One 1980 D-28 and a Epiphone Dove for playing out side or camp fires,I've had every guitar you can name,I find it's hard to beat a Taylor guitar,I listened to this several times and I like the Taylor much better,Furch is ok to me but I'm gonna have to go with Taylor winning my Taylors are 2015 614ce,2019 614ce builders edition v brace,2018 814ce DLX v brace,2015 816ce, 2015 914ce,K-24 ce, Baby Taylor,1980 Martin D-28 , Epiphone Dove. like I said I've had many and every guitar you can name there's something I love about the Taylor guitars.Furch is okay but still I have to keep the Taylor if it was me.Both nice sounding guitars but Taylor wins,But choose the one you love not like.Love is your answer I love my Taylor guitars.
I think the comments are right on. Keep the Furch. It has a richer, mellower, and more melodic sound. If you looking for a new home for the Taylor, I would be happy to oblige
Hi Jason, I might be a little biased as I'm hoping to get a red series Furch for my 60th birthday but for me the furch keeps every note clear on every chord but the Taylor has a small bit more warmth which I'm sure will come to the Furch too over the years , the answer to your question though is simple keep both they are both beautiful in every way and enjoy every minute of them. I did giggle to myself when you said hard strumming, you strum gently same as myself, there's far too many people hammering the life out of guitars on you tube lol.
First, great video, really nice examples and excellent playing!! I listened with headphones and in the acoustic examples, in every case, the Furch was more balanced and richer/more resonant. The Taylor sounded thin. Amplified the Baggs blew away the Taylor electronics, not even close!
iIhave 3 taylors and due to availability and cost i could only acquire a Furch green series and based on my limited knowledge i would 100% be keeping the Furch
I like the sound of the Taylor, but really, it depends on what sound you are wanting and for the type of music you like to play. I have a Taylor and I bought it because I love its sounds and playability. If it isn't fun to play, it doesn't get played by me.
I was doing office work while listening and it didn't take long to tell them apart by tone alone. Personally I think the Furch was fuller and richer in tone so I'd choose the Furch. This was a good review premise but something tells me the reviewer isn't getting rid of either one! Not that I blame him.
I agree with Colin Hardy. The Furch has really nice clean, rich highs and still maintains a great base/mid response. I normally don’t like the sound of Cocobolo (just personal preference), but Furch managed to harness the best out of this tone-wood in this case; and the look is spectacular. The only place I think Taylor won IMHO is hard strumming with the pickup system- Furch was a little quackier sounding… maybe tweaking the pizo/mic mix on the LR Baggs system will fix that. But overall, I like the Furch.
Furch just sounded much clearer and warmer also that low E note on the furch has a specific sound to it idk maybe im the only one but it has like a sparkle to It all the notes do and you can also hear each note nothing is clashing
Been looking at both of these (taylors builders edition).Have a lowden 12 fret s with a cutaway which i love & is brilliant for live or recording.Thank you for this wonderful comparision & the other comments are a great help and indeed have leaned me towards the furch.
You are right about the white nut typical for X-bracing. However, if you look through the sound hole you can see the back bracing typical for V-bracing. His Taylor is somehow different than other typical Taylors.
To my ear the Furch sounds in a completely different league to the Taylor - better in every way. I’ve never played one and am looking forward to getting my hands on one soon.
The Taylor seems to have more of a bottom end, but it is 3-4 years old and a 9-month old Furch will continue to open up and blossom. This level Furch can be custom built with just about any woods you can imagine for the body and appointments. When I ordered my custom Rainbow (similar to the one shown here but with Indian rosewood back, sides and different ornamentation) in April 2021 I was told it would take about 4-5 months to be built and delivered. COVID created shipping container issues worldwide and I’m still waiting for it to be delivered, supposedly in August 2022. In April 2021 my Furch cost $5100 (tax additional). The prices have risen about 8%-10% since then. I recently played my friend’s brand new Taylor 814 CE and it SINGS! If my Furch sounds as good as my friend’s 814 I’ll be very happy.
@@gebenack I sold my Taylor 814 V class after having and playing if for a couple years and that was after selling a Gibson j-200 and getting the Taylor. I’ve got the new Martin D-18 and I’m pretty happy with that. There isn’t much difference in my opinion of the 2 your showing, in fact I didn’t pay close attention in the video when you changed guitars. Why not keep both?
Jason, glad I caught this. I can help you as you seem to be raving a bit. Sell one? No. Keep them. I noticed the wedding band. Rent the wife to do a few houses a week, car washes, lawn mowing, etc. You make enough to keep both and get time to play them while the wife is gainfully employed. Voila! And no problem, glad to help!
I'm astonished to read so many opting for the Furch! I was expecting the Furch to grab me (based on what I'd heard and read about it) but to my ears the Taylor blows it away for clarity, volume, definition and "Sparkle". The Furch has a mellow tone and I can see the appeal of that but it lacks that mid to higher end punch that is so obvious in the Taylor. However, the Furch sounds as if it's better plugged that the Taylor, but I suspect that may be down to personal balancing between bass & treble. As far as visual appeal is concerned, the Taylor beats the Furch hands down for me, but by far the more important attributes for me are sound, feel and playability. "Each to their own" as they say!
Same feeling here. I watched the video without prior looking at the comments and was like Ok Taylor is an obvious choice for me here considering its clarity and projection (with the exception when plugged in, there could be a debate). But overall comments seem actually more balanced not to say more in favor of Furch.
It’s all personal preference. I have the same Furch and I have a slightly different Taylor 814ce Builder’s Edition, which is a bit less expressive than the Furch even though the 814ce BE is more expensive than the standard Taylor 814ce in the video. The Furch is a bit bigger than the Taylor; fortunately, the Furch sounds great given that it is more expensive than the Taylor. Both guitar sounds great with their own tones. Cocobolo and rosewood are great tone woods. I just happen to like rosewood tones of my Taylor more. Plus, I feel more comfortable playing with my Taylor; probably because it’s a bit smaller than the Furch. Again, it’s personal preference. Most of people I know like the tones of my Furch more than my Taylor’s.
@@нуе3еНадеждаКравченкоgood catch on the white nut. If you look through the Taylor’s sound hole, you can see the back bracing typical for the new V-bracing model (which usually comes with black tusq nut) but the white nut on his Taylor is usually with the older X-bracing model. Looks like his Taylor is unusual.
I don’t have a Taylor or a Furch, but i am very familiar with both makes. Just from your video which is a great topic to do by the way, so to my ears, I preferred how the Furch sounded. Aesthetically I also preferred the Furch. In my opinion, the Furch is a keeper if I’d have to pick one.
Furch without question. The sound is much more clean and balanced. The playability is beyond reproach. Ooops, I gave it away. I own the same Red series deluxe albeit with rosewood back and sides. It feels so wrong but I find myself playing my Furch more often than my 1990 Martin HD28. Great video and wonderful comparison of all the different playing styles. Well done.
@@Therapyxx I have been playing my Martin for a long time and it was a gift from my wife so I feel bad when I pick my Furch over the Martin sometimes. I still try to play both during our worship services but I prefer the Furch. Don't get me wrong, the Martin sounds and plays amazing but the Furch just has a little something extra and "feels" different, more comfortable. The clarity and tone are just over the top.
@@chrisrussell6747 ah oki, thank you. By the way: Do you have Furch with cocobolo back and sides? All items on the internet in my country are usually Rosenwood or Black Walnuss. I Ordered Taylor 722ce for 2.8k few weeks ago, but still thinking it it was right decision + there are some little bug with guitar, which is completely fine. But I'm still able to return it and think about something different for fingerstyle :) Furch red is available only used for this price. new one costs already 1.4k more than my taylor ^^
@@Therapyxx My Furch Red Deluxe is master grade spruce top and master grade rosewood back and sides. I really like the sound of rosewood. I have a Breedlove American Standard with mahogany back and sides and the tone is much deeper and woody. I don't own anything with coco bolo back and sides. Perhaps in the future. I am keen to get a cedar top guitar at some point. The Furch yellow series may be my next purchase(if I can talk my wife into it).
@@chrisrussell6747 may I ask - If you would have only one guitar and that's it, would it be the furch red deluxe rosenwood? (even better if the answer would focus the fingerstyle compositions focus) or would you have something different? ^^
In my case, I kept my Taylor 712 because I felt more creative and confident with it in my hands. However, if my Furch sounded as good as the one you have, it would have been a more difficult decision.
Considering Bob Taylor invented the GA and being this is a flag ship model, I’d say there is no comparison. Taylor all day long and twice today (it is Sunday). Of course, I doubt you are going to pick just one. Just like I couldn’t pick between my Taylor 810 and Martin HD28.
I know this is about two specific guitars, but I played both brands in a store next to Martins and Gibsons. It might sound boring but both (Taylor and Furch) sounded very metallic to me. Something the Martins and especially the Gibson acoustics didn't have all across.
I thought the exact same thing. I liked that though and bought a furch. Turns out it was the elixir strings that gave that metallic twang. It’s less of a problem with worn in no non coated PBs and especially nickel strings.
Taylor is louder, but has a bright tin sound, Furch does not project as loud...but sounds, better and if I had to choose between the wood combinations it is Furch all the way. I would like to see a review between the Furch and a Martin dreadnought with the cocobolo
If I owned both of these guitars I would keep them both. I'm no expert. Not a professional player. Not a luthier. But I surely know that the difference between a youtube recording from an i-phone played back through whatever system I'm using isn't gonna tell me how either of these two high-end instruments "feels" in my hands and to my ears. They both sound really nice up against your playing repertoire. I have 5 acoustics. 4 dreds and one concert body. Dreds are Walnut/Spruce, two Rosewood/Spruce (one twelve string), one Rosewood/Cedar (round shoulder). The concert body is a blackwood/mahogany twelve fret. All made by recognizable makers...most of them from the 70s. All have different voices. When I sit down with each I ask "where you gonna take me today"? They never fail to answer with their own and very pleasing result. Every tune I know, whether it's mine or some else's has a different voice, hence "feel" on each of these old friends. Some tunes just ask to played on certain guitars...the voice is right, the feel is there. I wouldn't part with any of them but if I was forced to part with one of my best friends? Now if they're just casual acquaintances I guess all the editorial commentary about who made them, what the social media opinions are, what the fan bases say, might play into some kinda decision but you somehow have found yourself in possession of a pair of high quality instruments that will be around longer than you and will continue to age into guitars that are better than what we hear today. Anyone who's been at this for awhile has a story about one they let get away...
I have a 2015 Taylor PS16 with Cocobolo back & sides and it sounds very similar to the Furch! That nice deep bass seems to be a characteristic of Cocobolo.
I agree with Freaky, Furch is warmer, Taylor more forward acoustically. I prefer the Furch’s cocobolo color and the inlays and the Roman numerals is unique. Furch for me
Great video. Well done and great playing! The Fuch had more bass.. a bigger sound. The Taylor was very crisp and clear and the Furch had that too but it seem to my ears to have more bass, so the highs didn't jump out as much.. more rounded overall sound. I think the difference in the woods is significant here. The Taylor seem to have that desirable Rosewood "snowglobe" overtones and the Furch had different overtones. I think our ears have become very accustomed to the rosewood sound, so there may be a subliminal bias there for many listeners. I wish you'd have compared this Taylor to my Red Pure GC-SR for that reason (apples to apples) Also, I think the Furch was a tad louder because it had a bigger sound (to my ears) Both great! Like was said, the Furch is a more rare and maybe more handcrafted than the Taylor 814.
Furch is obviously more appointed, has a more rare feel to it, the two bevels instead of one is also a plus for the Furch, and the overal boutique idea of this guitar. Soundwise also Furch seems more balanced. So, I would keep this if I had to choose. Of course they both have something the other doesn't, so sometimes it's hard to choose ... Curious what you've chosen in the end.
Nice playing, I have a similar Taylor tho different woods also a Furch that's very similar to yours tho five years old which is the keeper for me along with my Martin 0017, you can pick up a decent Taylor anywhere anytime.
Thanks for the vid! Great one! I listened carefully via a decent pair of headphones. Did come to a very subjective conclusion that both of the guitars do not excel in heavy strumming - just not their territory. I'd have tried to use a ligher pick to compensate the heavy strumming here. Jazz picking could have been sweeter sounding with a smaller body acoustic: 12-fret, all-hog or crossover nylon perhaps. Soft strumming and fingerpicking - that's where both guitars shine. I think, I prefer Furch for the sound and Taylor for the looks. Plugged-in sound needs some EQ in both cases. LR Baggs is something I'm more leaning to, but unfortunately neither of the pickups represent the bloomy and vivid acoustic tones of the pair. I'm happy to see how Czech-made Furch is competing with the big US brand. Thanks again for recording this!
Great video. What a first world problem to have. This makes me happy that my guitars are very different from each other. Sure, I have two dreadnoughts but one is Sitka over rosewood and other is Adirondack over mahogany. I have one of similar shape to yours but cedar over rosewood and an all mahogany 00. I can always justify keeping these. You should listen for yourself though good headphones or speakers. Which inspires you more? Which would you regret selling after six months? If you do not really care, put them both up and keep whichever doesn't sell. Overall I prefer the Taylor (and I am a Martin guy) but both have pluses and minuses..I don't care for the ES2, but it was okay when fingerprinted. This Furch will continue to get better (actually both will). Good luck, let us know.
For me it's the Furch, a better sound and a really nicely appointed guitar. They're also a bit of a novelty, the Taylors are everywhere. I have a Furch F style mandolin that I've owned from new for 23 years now, beautiful to look at and a wonderful sound, add to that the fact that I've only upgraded the tuners and there are many, many miles on it. Their craftsmanship is superb. Good luck!
Furch… the craftsmanship and materials make it a unique instrument- with accompanying sound. You should also have one in your collection that meets “normal” higher end specs (Sitka spruce, rosewood back and sides- could be a dreadnaught or OOO vs GA)
I slightly prefer the Furch in this video, though the Taylor is also beautiful. More bass on the Furch, and the Taylor sounds like a classic Taylor. Plenty of brightness, but a bit light on the lower end. To be fair I have two Furch guitars so I am biased. I have the GCR Elite and the Faith/Furch 12 fret 000. I always liked what Nanci Griffith and Suzanne Vega did with their Taylor guitars, though I think Suzanne Vega jumped ship later on!
Enjoyed this comparison! The Furch was warm and full sounding, really beautiful. And to my ear the Taylor beat it in almost every segment. It's warmth and clarity are just beautiful to me. I guess I'm just a Taylor eared guy. I've got two 714ce's, one a couple years old and one over 20 years old - and love them both. This Furch's tone reminds me of my 50 year old Giannini made of Brazilian rosewood. Great rich full tone. For me both guitars sounded much worse in the last electric segments. So I'd keep the Taylor, but I'd love to have that Furch sitting along side my other guitars! Thanks for the good vid!
the furch. i don't know why (well i played one taylor i didn't like it one bit) so i'm biased without good reason. other than i've played a couple of furch's and they were really nice to play and way nice finish for the money. i've had about 60 guitars in the last few years, my keepers are 66 j45 (i've had since the 70's) recently acquired 69 epi texan, maton ebg808te, larrivee OMO3 zebrano, martin OOOX1, and a bunch of others. i like those fret markers on the furch too. don't like th rosette but love the abalone.
Conundrum. The Taylor has more harmonics but the Furch is more articulate. However, you can get the Taylor to be more articulate with a hybrid 12-56 Elixir string set and then perhaps some Martin Liquid metal bridge pins or buffalo horn bridge pins. lastely a Taylor with the right bone saddle can produce warmer sound yet more articulate.
The notes on the Taylor ring through more clearly. The Furch is softer sounding. They may look the same shape, but the Furch is prettier. Unfortunately it doesn't have the same clarity.
Can't go wrong with either ,as they both sound great. I did alot of guitar shopping (3 stores, 5 brands, played 17 acoustics) Purchased a Taylor 414ce-R as it "spoke to me" and this particular guitar, just played like butter. Which one do you enjoy more? oNe LovE from NYC
Thanks for the comparison Jason! Based on tone at least to my ear the Furch is the clear winner! The quality of the woods and the LR Baggs pick-up are superior on the Furch? Even so, Taylor guitars are impeccable and among the most comfortable to play guitars on the market? How do they compare to your preference? Do you like how they record? Would the extra weight of the Cocobolo be a burden to lug around? Does it matter to you that Furch doesn’t carry the same name recognition as the Taylor, should you decide to resell? Ultimately the choice is yours and you should choose the guitar you like the best? For my money I would let go of both and buy a Boucher as I believe they are superior to both?
Furch had more overall warmth and in years to come should open up even more with more warmth. Taylor had more overall treble but if I’m leaning towards one over the other it would go to Furch on this matchup
Hi buddy, if I were you I'd keep the Furch delux. It's twice the guitar of a Taylor 814. Big fan of furch guitars. I own 4 of them. I don't like the new v class bracing on Taylor. Prefer the old x brace. Dean 🇬🇧
Furch! I found that the Taylor for that kind of $$$$ is not as good. I thought when plugged in the Taylor sounded muddy. For contrast, the Taylor sounded more vintage in sound but that is suggestive. You are a great player and I loved the video. You made it easier to compare vs. some other comparison videos. What you did not say where both of these instruments out of the box or did you have them set up to your liking? I did tons of research and I feel that a "Modern Furch" will be worth a lot more in the long run. I recently bought a Furch Red Pure D-SR. Love it. I have been having it sit on a tone right now for over 300 hours. I have three guitars and travel a lot for work. I am a beginner player and did a lot of research to buy the Red Pure over a Martin D-28. I have a 15 series Martin which I love, all Mahogany. l had to get it set up because the action was very high. Of course I took it to a great Luthier. It plays amazing. When I went after the Furch over the D-28, I did not want to spend another 200 bucks for a good set up. This Furch right out of the box is perfect. I also have an Eastman AC622CE that is like a piano with Sitka over flamed maple with all the bling you have ever wanted. I may be remiss by not being a Taylor fan but... Furch at your level as well as my Eastie are all handmade and QC'ed. I look forward to discovering your channel. Fan right here.
Jason - Take your time! that is the best advice. keep playing them back and forth, back and forth. give yourself a 2 week deadline. Use the 80% rule if one of them serves your 80% desires than that's the one. USE your gut! which one do your REALLY want? Don't rely on the looks or what they are made of that is all a non issue! How do they feel and SOUND? what feels the most like you - in your lap and in your ear! best - mike
The taylor sounds better, I was so glad you did this comparison I was wondering because I had heard how good the Furch guitars are and they are but to the 814 CE no no no but, I'm biased I went into Casino guitars about a year ago to get strings. No more buying guitars... In the last 6 years I've purchased and traded 7 or 8 instruments including Martin's Taylor's, Gibson's but I wasn't getting a anymore,,, I went in the back of Casino guitars and had to pull down the prettiest guitar on the wall a 814 CE. " MAN " did that 814 sound great and it felt like it played it self.... i had no cash but Visa saved the day 4700.00 $$ later and I'm so glad I did,,God is so so so good, I thank him every day for all my things but the 814... thankyou lord, thank you with all my heart.......!!!!!
Perhaps the mic placement is a little off as I hear a lot of the room resulting in both guitars (to my ears) sounding remarkably similar. I love the look of the Furch, it has more personality and though a little compromised by the mic positioning seems to have a fuller sound acoustically. However, I prefer the Taylor Expression pick up to the LR Baggs which (no matter which type) always has that transistorised mid range honk.
definitely Tylor ! ... great name, second to none quality, unmatched playability, great sustain, superb aftersales service, much better investment (much easier to sale later on). Tylor 800 series is cheaper (better value for money ) compared to Red DLX Furch.
If I had to choose, I'd keep the furch. I do a lot of gumbaya strumming and liked the less foward sound of the Furch there... I prefered the taylor for single notes arpegios thingy but I do less of that. I own a 214ce-cf-dlx that I really like acoustically, it's quieter than a big dread and I can sing on top of it better than some other guitars that are all solid wood, my 214 is my goto guitar for quiet Saturday morning jam in my living room, my Taylor have better action and just feels great. I'm used to the small nut width... but I'm not a fan of the ES2 and in that video, the anthem sounded better to me than the ES2. So while I absolutely do not plan to sell my little Taylor... I'll probably be in the market for a second grand auditorium body at some point. Another very personnal little thing, I'm not a big fan of guitars without a pick guard... I know it's silly, but it is what it is for me!
They’re actually both great Guitars the reason why I ended up buying a Furch is two fold, the LR Baggs anthem system versus the Tailor and the Furch just sounds a little richer.
Sorry for my bad englisch. I would take the Furch. To my Ears it´s still a Little Bit compressed, but Think this will get better and she will More Open up. But the Sound is Sweet, Fine and all Stick together. Sounds like ist should sound, all notes are at the Right Place. The Taylor…. Im a Little Bit surprised…… More attack, More Single Points that Stick out of the croud, but some of These flashlights sound like they don‘t belong to the Rest. My wife has a Furch Dreadnought for 18 years now, and I love the sound of These „big belly“. Sound Matters! Best regards Björn. (Fuking autocorrection on Ipad)
Well done comparison vid! Would love to hear same comparison with non-coated strings....like John Pearse phosphor bronze or even Martin Phosphors. Not the thuddy Elixirs.
Taylor has somethings that I really like: A brighter more cutting sound with great volume/The ES2 system which I find superior because it is adjustable in 3 courses of strings and sounds really good/New tech such as machining techniques and bolt on neck for easy neck adjustments. Tone is so subjective, some like really warm and some like myself like a lively instrument. I like nice lows but I want them really defined and clear.
I like the Furch Me-self. The esthetic appointments are VERY nice, and not just for looks they are also for function, ie: comfort, and a small step up from the Taylor. Acoustically (and isn't that what it is all about?) it sounds fuller, richer than the Taylor too. But if you have to plug it in, the Taylor ES2 system is preferable to me. The Baggs system in the Furch sounded like someone was crinkling paper next to the mic and cutting an occasional fart!
Easy, Furch is the keeper. Simply, the one you play more is the keeper and for me I like the sound of Furch better. Had 2 Taylors, 514 and 814, loved 514 but 814 was mostly sitting in a case and I always played my Martins
I have the 814ce and listened to my recordings plugged in dry, playing Landslide type style finger pick. Sound wise it sounds much better than what Im hearing here. Im not sure the Taylor is really this bad plugged in though I believe the pickup system generally is not the best.
difficult to decide: acoustically the Taylor is simply louder and more brillant; the furch a little more restrained but with more overtones, more elegant. Plugged in the furch is clearly the winner: a fat mid punch that gives it more volume, the Taylor with almost thin sounding plain strtings. I don't know, if one could achieve more with the Taylor with an optimal modulation with the sound control. In the end I'd keep the Furch with the hope, it will open acoustically even more by the time.
I didn't know what to expect going into it. After listening the difference is obvious. I'm keeping the Furch all the way. I was actually a bit surprised the Taylor didn't sound better than it does. That said, I took care of a $5,000 Taylor for a few months for a friend of mine and I was not impressed. If you can't afford a Furch, get a Yamaha L Series guitar. I found a brand new LL16 for under $1000. It sounds almost as good as the Furch and better than that $5000 Taylor I had.
They sound really different from each other. Very hard decision to make. At the moment - I think the Furch has more lower end response than the Taylor - but the Taylor has more clarity than the Furch...My only advice is to hang on to both of them until the Furch has opened up some more. At that point I think you are more likely to make the right decision.
Thing is: Can a builder make great guitars at a reasonable price as well as bending end and Taylor's building tech allows them to do that. They were my choice because their affordable ranges are so good.
The fundamentals are: 1) Price tag. At MSRP $7097 the Furch is almost $3000 more expensive than the Taylor. It comes down to affordability. If you could afford the Furch then you can afford to keep both. 2) Tone woods. Cocobolo does sound like cocobolo as rosewood sounds like rosewood. It comes down to personal preference. I would keep both as each has its own tones. However, with $7000 MSRP (if you managed to get a deal below Furch MSRP then it would probably still be a lot more expensive than the Taylor) I would get a custom shop Martin or Taylor with similar tone woods as the Furch and then compare them. That I call comparing apple to apple.
@@jasonbussellsmusic8828 if someday you would like to have same Furch Red Deluxe Gc-SR with rosenwood - I would really glad to exchange it with you by giving additional $$$ from my side 😂
@@Therapyxx Thank you for the offer, but I'm pretty attached to the cocobolo pattern on this one. Good luck in your search though, I'm sure you can find one.
In my opinion we would like to hear your opinion. You took us through a long comparison video but we didn't hold, play, feel or hear except through our devices each guitar - but you said nothing? Which one would you keep?
if we take the basic version of Taylor 814ce BE and Furch Red Delux (DLX here is same as BE as they both have Bavel Duo) otherwise we have to compare also Furch Red basic versions, which costs much less.... well. Taylor 814ce BE - Thomann - 5000 Euro in Germany. Furch Red Deluxe Gc-SR (same woods as Taylor) - 4000 Euro. if you want almost same sound, but pure version like Furch Red (Pure) - You would get it for 3000 easy. Taylor 814ce not builders edition - 4200 by Thomann. But yes, Cocobolo version are expensive, its overall expensive wood for any guitar, like pure KOA Taylors K22.
Furch. Which I have. But the honest answer is not about the sound of both instruments or reputation. Its about which one inspires you as the player. I have never come across a guitar which inspires my writing more. That simple.
They're both good sounding guitars. But I definitely prefer the Furch. It's much more balanced and pleasing sounding, more full, more body and smooth. There's contexts I could prefer the brighter sounding Taylor, like in a busy mix. But, I think I'd rather deal with that by using brighter sounding fresh strings, and touch of air EQ, and have a guitar that sounds acoustically satisfying all-rounder. But it's subjective, and I'm thinking more of using an acoustic in a solo, singer-songwriter or small ensemble type situation. If you were the lead singer in a rock band strumming rhythm acoustic guitar over a loud band, the Taylor would cut through better. But again, the Furch pickup sound is better there too.
I own both , a Taylor and a Furch. Like most people here, my Furch is head and shoulders above my Taylor. I must say that the Furch was a happy fluke. I'd read a lot about them and eventually found a used Blue series online. It has no pickup , as it's for recording use only. I use a Godin for live work. I've been gigging for 57 years . I'd previously had a 70's Gibson Hummingbird with a woody tone to die for. Now, the Furch , in all honesty , is the nicest guitar i've ever played. It suited everything about my physicality and playing style . My fretting hand has never had it so good. It's strung with Thomastics and has a sound that's extremely sympathetic to the chord structures i use . I'm a lucky man.
Thank you so much Rodney. I’m in the market and your words are very helpful. I play a lot of classical and fingerpicking only, on a very nice blueridge dread. I know that may sound weird but it really works for me. Thank you again my friend!
@@fredriordan5660 Hi Fred. As they say, a guitar is a guitar, is a guitar. If it works for you , then that's all that matters. I have all these weird personal thoughts on the subject , like, " a good guitarist should be able to solo on a barbed wire fence " . Meaning , that in the long run, it's just a vehicle. It's wood and wire . Yet we build relationships with instruments to the point of almost unconditionally surrendering our power to the instrument . I'm a victim , to the point of building guitars as well haha. On the other hand, there are days when i have to say , ok guitar, you work for me, not the other way round. I'm the boss and you'll do as your told. Then there are the days where this guitar you've been so happy with feels like crap. It's one of those things that continually keep us on our toes. So, what works for me, may not work for you. Good luck with your search.
Hello Rodney! I really appreciate your vast knowledge and experience. It really helps us that are not in the business but just are blown away by acoustic guitars. There is nothing like it for me. Just finally figured out 4 and 20 by Stephen Stills. I’m sure you’re probably familiar with. It’s a DADDAD tuning. Tuning the g string down to d and back again doesn’t take long to break. Replaced it yesterday and then broke the high e. I live about 25 miles from the fret shop in Huntsville. Anyway getting back to brands, I am really looking at a red series Furch GA, and also a Alvarez om. You have so much experience at this and I would love to get your input if you have the time in any way you wish. Oh yes, your right about a guitar is a guitar. I think it’s which one speaks to you. Thank you again sir, I sincerely appreciate it. I almost forgot, my favorite musician living or dead is David Gilmour. Right behind him is Jeff Beck and Lindsey Buckingham. Just to give you an idea of what I’m into.
@@fredriordan5660 Hi Fred. When i was younger , i wanted to be Jeff Beck. In retrospect, i'm glad i didn't take up the option 😉. It took me years to realize that i can't be him. He already had the gig. So, i learnt to concentrate on just being me. I've done a few acoustic trio's over the years. I was a big Stephen Stills fan too. I used to love doing " Change Partners ". In the early 80's i stumbled across a Yairi acoustic. I was very impressed with it. When i was looking for my Furch, i was checking out new Yairi's as well. Nice guitars.
I want to share with all of you an alternative perspective. Recently during my travels I stopped in at Music Villa in Bozeman MT. I was taking a risk because it was the first time comparing a variety of their best guitars with my twenty year old Taylor and I knew there was the chance I might find something there i couldn’t live without. My conclusion is that once you get above the $2k price range, most every guitar is amazing with very subtle differences if any. After picking a few favorites, I walked out of that guitar store happy with the guitar I left at home. I realized then how much we guitar enthusiasts can overthink owning or collecting guitars taking for granted the real quality of that well crafted instrument that’s been inspiring us in recent years.
In this video I found neither guitar to be better than the other. They’re both incredible and I would feel blessed to have either one.
It really comes down to personal taste. If the guitar brings you joy to pick up and play and if it pushes your abilities toward a much high level, keep it for life and don’t muddy it ever by thinking that you have to have the best one out there. The best guitar in the world may be the one you already have at home.
What make you think a guy who paid $7k for a Furch and $4k for a Taylor would care about $2k alternatives?
@@hughnguyen1772 You have a point to a point. The OP stated that once you get above 2k, it IS difficult to find differences. Your 7k and 4k are above 2k the last time I checked. Sure you can spend 20 grand if that's what you want to do... The question is will it get you anywhere.
great point. If you have the time to really read, and I mean really read the details you will find the one that is the base and all bling is built after that. I would submit, Larrivee. The OM3. This was tough as I have a Red Furch Dread and that Taylor sounds so so so good!
@@hughnguyen1772lol the Furch costs 4500 msrp 😂 and will definitely be cheaper than the Taylor at a lot of retailers
Furch without a question!! I’m a luthier and have worked on both. Both excellent guitars but the Furch is a better quality guitar.
How about lakewood guitars vs furch in terms of playability, sound and build. Thanks
If you’re a luthier then you probably know that size matters. The Furch is a bit larger than the Taylor. The Furch does sounds differently than the Taylors. Again, if you’re a luthier then you would know better. Different tone woods and volumes on different guitars definitely make the guitars sound differently. Even guitars of the same made and model sound differently from one another technically. The more expensive Furch does sound great fortunately.
I would go with the Furch. I have tried both in stores and personally I could never get much projection from a Taylor grand auditorium guitar, but a Furch easily sings with my light touch. I prefer the tone as well. It has more warmth. I also have the Furch red deluxe GC-LC and it is incredible
As an owner of 6 Furch guitars, I'm going with the Furch. The Taylor sounds good, but it just doesn't have the richness the Furch does and is too bright. I can attest that each Furch I own opens up very quickly and they continue to do so. The other aspect, which is important to me is that the CNR system in Furch guitars is superb. My necks don't move. They're kept in a controlled environment, but they are stable! Furch is a win win for anyone looking for one.
For me absolutely the Furch! Not only am I a proud Furch owner myself ( sold my Taylor now) in my mind the sound is more defined and warmer
I encountered the same dilemma last year. Furch Red Master's Choice vs Taylor 814 among other Taylors. As much as I have loved my Taylor's, in the end there was no contest between them. The Furch was and remains "the one" as nothing else compares in my personal experience. She plays and sits perfectly. Her sound is balanced and nuanced. Most importantly, she begs to be played and called upon to create beautiful things. And when you oblige her, she keeps her promises. Yes, my Furch is that good.
Our music together seems more special. We simply fit each other.
I like my Taylor 814ce Builder’s Edition but I would love to have a cocobolo Furch; and I did end up buying the Furch. I would also love to have a Brazilian rosewood guitar; and I will probably get one if I can afford it. It comes down to what you can afford. And if you can afford to have more than one guitar then you would probably get another guitar than the Furch after you get the Furch. The Furch, especially with Cocobolo, is quite more expensive than the Taylor. Every guitar sound differently than all other guitars. Two guitars of the same make, model, and year sound differently technically. Cocobolo definitely sounds differently than rosewood.
Why don’t you marry it then?
@@tramboithaoyour comment is uneducated and vulgar. You’re what you posted. Please restrain yourself from posting such comments.
Very similar looks, but quite different sounds. I know why Furch is so popular in the comments. It's definitely warmer, and it seemed to take harder strumming MUCH better. It sounded like a Martin. But that is also part of the charm that Taylor has, it does NOT sound like a Martin.
The Furch has more bass to it, but at times I felt it overpowered the mids and highs. And frankly though I like warm, the Furch almost came off as "dull" or muddy at times to me. But the Taylor "sang". It was crisp and clear. Though sometimes I did feel it sounded a bit thin, but only at times.
So for my style of playing (fingerstyle, though simple... very much a melody player), the Taylor edged out the Furch this time. But both are fantastic guitars. That said, I love the Furch back bevel in the waist. I wish Taylor did that. Their "builder's edition" guitars have nailed the arm bevel and the cutaway compound bevel... but oh to have that back waist bevel along with it.
Cheers!
I think they both sound incredible when the condenser mic is used! There is a huge difference when they are plugged in! The Taylor ES2 is not as clear and defined as the Furch! With all the different playing styles you went through this was a fair representation! I would keep the Furch!
Yes plugged in the sound was better on the Furch.
After playing Taylors for 25 years to my surprise Furch red master overclassed the Taylor 814 ce in all means. So I purchased it yesterday after narrow comparison.
Love the brightness of Taylor. That would be my choice.
The Furch all day long! I tried one of these beauties. Very responsive to a light touch. Great guitar!
I have been playing guitar for over fifty years I own nine guitars and seven are Taylors,One 1980 D-28 and a Epiphone Dove for playing out side or camp fires,I've had every guitar you can name,I find it's hard to beat a Taylor guitar,I listened to this several times and I like the Taylor much better,Furch is ok to me but I'm gonna have to go with Taylor winning my Taylors are 2015 614ce,2019 614ce builders edition v brace,2018 814ce DLX v brace,2015 816ce, 2015 914ce,K-24 ce, Baby Taylor,1980 Martin D-28 , Epiphone Dove. like I said I've had many and every guitar you can name there's something I love about the Taylor guitars.Furch is okay but still I have to keep the Taylor if it was me.Both nice sounding guitars but Taylor wins,But choose the one you love not like.Love is your answer I love my Taylor guitars.
I like the sound of the Furch. Been looking at one of those myself.
I think the comments are right on. Keep the Furch. It has a richer, mellower, and more melodic sound. If you looking for a new home for the Taylor, I would be happy to oblige
Hi Jason, I might be a little biased as I'm hoping to get a red series Furch for my 60th birthday but for me the furch keeps every note clear on every chord but the Taylor has a small bit more warmth which I'm sure will come to the Furch too over the years , the answer to your question though is simple keep both they are both beautiful in every way and enjoy every minute of them. I did giggle to myself when you said hard strumming, you strum gently same as myself, there's far too many people hammering the life out of guitars on you tube lol.
First, great video, really nice examples and excellent playing!!
I listened with headphones and in the acoustic examples, in every case, the Furch was more balanced and richer/more resonant. The Taylor sounded thin.
Amplified the Baggs blew away the Taylor electronics, not even close!
What you said.
fully agree
That's why I sold my 816 CE and 314CE. Now I have Furch Green and it's much better - both plugged (never liked it plugged) and unplugged.
iIhave 3 taylors and due to availability and cost i could only acquire a Furch green series and based on my limited knowledge i would 100% be keeping the Furch
I like the sound of the Taylor, but really, it depends on what sound you are wanting and for the type of music you like to play. I have a Taylor and I bought it because I love its sounds and playability. If it isn't fun to play, it doesn't get played by me.
I agree.
I was doing office work while listening and it didn't take long to tell them apart by tone alone. Personally I think the Furch was fuller and richer in tone so I'd choose the Furch. This was a good review premise but something tells me the reviewer isn't getting rid of either one! Not that I blame him.
i prefer FURCH to keep it..its so balanced and the tones projects so well..its ideal for country strumming.. 😀
I agree with Colin Hardy. The Furch has really nice clean, rich highs and still maintains a great base/mid response. I normally don’t like the sound of Cocobolo (just personal preference), but Furch managed to harness the best out of this tone-wood in this case; and the look is spectacular. The only place I think Taylor won IMHO is hard strumming with the pickup system- Furch was a little quackier sounding… maybe tweaking the pizo/mic mix on the LR Baggs system will fix that. But overall, I like the Furch.
Furch just sounded much clearer and warmer also that low E note on the furch has a specific sound to it idk maybe im the only one but it has like a sparkle to
It all the notes do and you can also hear each note nothing is clashing
Wtf furch sounded like cardboard
Been looking at both of these (taylors builders edition).Have a lowden 12 fret s with a cutaway which i love & is brilliant for live or recording.Thank you for this wonderful comparision & the other comments are a great help and indeed have leaned me towards the furch.
Coukdnt agree more. It's no5 even close, the Taylor has far more depth and warmth, in fingerstyle the Furch sounds like a harpsicord
Furch is a keeper. I have never bonded with a Taylor although I do like their necks.
Good AB comparison, Jason. As a composer for solo guitar & voice, the Furch is much preferred. But to mix with other instruments, the Taylor is tops.
You are right about the white nut typical for X-bracing. However, if you look through the sound hole you can see the back bracing typical for V-bracing. His Taylor is somehow different than other typical Taylors.
I swapped out the nut. It came with the graphite on, but it quickly started wearing down.
To my ear the Furch sounds in a completely different league to the Taylor - better in every way. I’ve never played one and am looking forward to getting my hands on one soon.
I recently purchased a red pure sounds like a beast
The Taylor seems to have more of a bottom end, but it is 3-4 years old and a 9-month old Furch will continue to open up and blossom.
This level Furch can be custom built with just about any woods you can imagine for the body and appointments. When I ordered my custom Rainbow (similar to the one shown here but with Indian rosewood back, sides and different ornamentation) in April 2021 I was told it would take about 4-5 months to be built and delivered. COVID created shipping container issues worldwide and I’m still waiting for it to be delivered, supposedly in August 2022. In April 2021 my Furch cost $5100 (tax additional). The prices have risen about 8%-10% since then.
I recently played my friend’s brand new Taylor 814 CE and it SINGS! If my Furch sounds as good as my friend’s 814 I’ll be very happy.
@@gebenack I sold my Taylor 814 V class after having and playing if for a couple years and that was after selling a Gibson j-200 and getting the Taylor. I’ve got the new Martin D-18 and I’m pretty happy with that. There isn’t much difference in my opinion of the 2 your showing, in fact I didn’t pay close attention in the video when you changed guitars. Why not keep both?
Jason, glad I caught this. I can help you as you seem to be raving a bit. Sell one? No. Keep them. I noticed the wedding band. Rent the wife to do a few houses a week, car washes, lawn mowing, etc. You make enough to keep both and get time to play them while the wife is gainfully employed. Voila! And no problem, glad to help!
I'm astonished to read so many opting for the Furch! I was expecting the Furch to grab me (based on what I'd heard and read about it) but to my ears the Taylor blows it away for clarity, volume, definition and "Sparkle". The Furch has a mellow tone and I can see the appeal of that but it lacks that mid to higher end punch that is so obvious in the Taylor. However, the Furch sounds as if it's better plugged that the Taylor, but I suspect that may be down to personal balancing between bass & treble. As far as visual appeal is concerned, the Taylor beats the Furch hands down for me, but by far the more important attributes for me are sound, feel and playability. "Each to their own" as they say!
Same feeling here. I watched the video without prior looking at the comments and was like Ok Taylor is an obvious choice for me here considering its clarity and projection (with the exception when plugged in, there could be a debate). But overall comments seem actually more balanced not to say more in favor of Furch.
Good time of day, what year of taylor's release? Why does he have a white upper threshold?
Same here all the people saying furch need their ears checked. The furch sounds cheap, quiet and muffled
It’s all personal preference. I have the same Furch and I have a slightly different Taylor 814ce Builder’s Edition, which is a bit less expressive than the Furch even though the 814ce BE is more expensive than the standard Taylor 814ce in the video. The Furch is a bit bigger than the Taylor; fortunately, the Furch sounds great given that it is more expensive than the Taylor. Both guitar sounds great with their own tones. Cocobolo and rosewood are great tone woods. I just happen to like rosewood tones of my Taylor more. Plus, I feel more comfortable playing with my Taylor; probably because it’s a bit smaller than the Furch. Again, it’s personal preference. Most of people I know like the tones of my Furch more than my Taylor’s.
@@нуе3еНадеждаКравченкоgood catch on the white nut. If you look through the Taylor’s sound hole, you can see the back bracing typical for the new V-bracing model (which usually comes with black tusq nut) but the white nut on his Taylor is usually with the older X-bracing model. Looks like his Taylor is unusual.
I don’t have a Taylor or a Furch, but i am very familiar with both makes. Just from your video which is a great topic to do by the way, so to my ears, I preferred how the Furch sounded. Aesthetically I also preferred the Furch. In my opinion, the Furch is a keeper if I’d have to pick one.
Furch without question. The sound is much more clean and balanced. The playability is beyond reproach. Ooops, I gave it away. I own the same Red series deluxe albeit with rosewood back and sides. It feels so wrong but I find myself playing my Furch more often than my 1990 Martin HD28. Great video and wonderful comparison of all the different playing styles. Well done.
what did you mean with "It feels so wron" ? ^^
@@Therapyxx I have been playing my Martin for a long time and it was a gift from my wife so I feel bad when I pick my Furch over the Martin sometimes. I still try to play both during our worship services but I prefer the Furch. Don't get me wrong, the Martin sounds and plays amazing but the Furch just has a little something extra and "feels" different, more comfortable. The clarity and tone are just over the top.
@@chrisrussell6747 ah oki, thank you. By the way: Do you have Furch with cocobolo back and sides? All items on the internet in my country are usually Rosenwood or Black Walnuss.
I Ordered Taylor 722ce for 2.8k few weeks ago, but still thinking it it was right decision + there are some little bug with guitar, which is completely fine. But I'm still able to return it and think about something different for fingerstyle :)
Furch red is available only used for this price. new one costs already 1.4k more than my taylor ^^
@@Therapyxx My Furch Red Deluxe is master grade spruce top and master grade rosewood back and sides. I really like the sound of rosewood. I have a Breedlove American Standard with mahogany back and sides and the tone is much deeper and woody. I don't own anything with coco bolo back and sides. Perhaps in the future. I am keen to get a cedar top guitar at some point. The Furch yellow series may be my next purchase(if I can talk my wife into it).
@@chrisrussell6747 may I ask - If you would have only one guitar and that's it, would it be the furch red deluxe rosenwood? (even better if the answer would focus the fingerstyle compositions focus) or would you have something different? ^^
In my case, I kept my Taylor 712 because I felt more creative and confident with it in my hands. However, if my Furch sounded as good as the one you have, it would have been a more difficult decision.
Considering Bob Taylor invented the GA and being this is a flag ship model, I’d say there is no comparison. Taylor all day long and twice today (it is Sunday). Of course, I doubt you are going to pick just one. Just like I couldn’t pick between my Taylor 810 and Martin HD28.
I know this is about two specific guitars, but I played both brands in a store next to Martins and Gibsons. It might sound boring but both (Taylor and Furch) sounded very metallic to me. Something the Martins and especially the Gibson acoustics didn't have all across.
I thought the exact same thing. I liked that though and bought a furch. Turns out it was the elixir strings that gave that metallic twang. It’s less of a problem with worn in no non coated PBs and especially nickel strings.
The Furch sounds more like a Martin. I wouldn't throw either one out of bed for eating crackers but I much more enjoyed the tone of the Furch.
Taylor is louder, but has a bright tin sound, Furch does not project as loud...but sounds, better and if I had to choose between the wood combinations it is Furch all the way. I would like to see a review between the Furch and a Martin dreadnought with the cocobolo
i would go with furch, but i am biased. i am czech and i own Dc Vintage2
If I owned both of these guitars I would keep them both.
I'm no expert. Not a professional player. Not a luthier. But I surely know that the difference between a youtube recording from an i-phone played back through whatever system I'm using isn't gonna tell me how either of these two high-end instruments "feels" in my hands and to my ears. They both sound really nice up against your playing repertoire.
I have 5 acoustics. 4 dreds and one concert body. Dreds are Walnut/Spruce, two Rosewood/Spruce (one twelve string), one Rosewood/Cedar (round shoulder). The concert body is a blackwood/mahogany twelve fret. All made by recognizable makers...most of them from the 70s.
All have different voices. When I sit down with each I ask "where you gonna take me today"? They never fail to answer with their own and very pleasing result.
Every tune I know, whether it's mine or some else's has a different voice, hence "feel" on each of these old friends. Some tunes just ask to played on certain guitars...the voice is right, the feel is there. I wouldn't part with any of them but if I was forced to part with one of my best friends?
Now if they're just casual acquaintances I guess all the editorial commentary about who made them, what the social media opinions are, what the fan bases say, might play into some kinda decision but you somehow have found yourself in possession of a pair of high quality instruments that will be around longer than you and will continue to age into guitars that are better than what we hear today. Anyone who's been at this for awhile has a story about one they let get away...
I have a 2015 Taylor PS16 with Cocobolo back & sides and it sounds very similar to the Furch! That nice deep bass seems to be a characteristic of Cocobolo.
I agree with Freaky, Furch is warmer, Taylor more forward acoustically. I prefer the Furch’s cocobolo color and the inlays and the Roman numerals is unique. Furch for me
Great video. Well done and great playing!
The Fuch had more bass.. a bigger sound. The Taylor was very crisp and clear and the Furch had that too but it seem to my ears to have more bass, so the highs didn't jump out as much.. more rounded overall sound.
I think the difference in the woods is significant here. The Taylor seem to have that desirable Rosewood "snowglobe" overtones and the Furch had different overtones.
I think our ears have become very accustomed to the rosewood sound, so there may be a subliminal bias there for many listeners.
I wish you'd have compared this Taylor to my Red Pure GC-SR for that reason (apples to apples)
Also, I think the Furch was a tad louder because it had a bigger sound (to my ears)
Both great! Like was said, the Furch is a more rare and maybe more handcrafted than the Taylor 814.
Furch is obviously more appointed, has a more rare feel to it, the two bevels instead of one is also a plus for the Furch, and the overal boutique idea of this guitar. Soundwise also Furch seems more balanced. So, I would keep this if I had to choose. Of course they both have something the other doesn't, so sometimes it's hard to choose ... Curious what you've chosen in the end.
Nice playing, I have a similar Taylor tho different woods also a Furch that's very similar to yours tho five years old which is the keeper for me along with my Martin 0017, you can pick up a decent Taylor anywhere anytime.
Keep the Furch! I could listen to you play all day!
Great video! I would keep Furch!
Thanks for the vid! Great one! I listened carefully via a decent pair of headphones. Did come to a very subjective conclusion that both of the guitars do not excel in heavy strumming - just not their territory. I'd have tried to use a ligher pick to compensate the heavy strumming here. Jazz picking could have been sweeter sounding with a smaller body acoustic: 12-fret, all-hog or crossover nylon perhaps. Soft strumming and fingerpicking - that's where both guitars shine. I think, I prefer Furch for the sound and Taylor for the looks. Plugged-in sound needs some EQ in both cases. LR Baggs is something I'm more leaning to, but unfortunately neither of the pickups represent the bloomy and vivid acoustic tones of the pair.
I'm happy to see how Czech-made Furch is competing with the big US brand. Thanks again for recording this!
Furch all the way. I used to own a Taylor 810 series. I now own a Furch and love it.
Great video. What a first world problem to have. This makes me happy that my guitars are very different from each other. Sure, I have two dreadnoughts but one is Sitka over rosewood and other is Adirondack over mahogany. I have one of similar shape to yours but cedar over rosewood and an all mahogany 00. I can always justify keeping these.
You should listen for yourself though good headphones or speakers. Which inspires you more? Which would you regret selling after six months? If you do not really care, put them both up and keep whichever doesn't sell.
Overall I prefer the Taylor (and I am a Martin guy) but both have pluses and minuses..I don't care for the ES2, but it was okay when fingerprinted. This Furch will continue to get better (actually both will). Good luck, let us know.
If I could keep only one I’d keep both 😄
great video.. thanks for doing this!
Thank you. Do you have a preference between the two?
@@jasonbussellsmusic8828 Which one is more comfortable?
@@angelg8445 The rib rest on the Furch is very nice. So I'd give it the edge in comfort, but I could play both all day.
For me it's the Furch, a better sound and a really nicely appointed guitar. They're also a bit of a novelty, the Taylors are everywhere. I have a Furch F style mandolin that I've owned from new for 23 years now, beautiful to look at and a wonderful sound, add to that the fact that I've only upgraded the tuners and there are many, many miles on it. Their craftsmanship is superb. Good luck!
Furch… the craftsmanship and materials make it a unique instrument- with accompanying sound. You should also have one in your collection that meets “normal” higher end specs (Sitka spruce, rosewood back and sides- could be a dreadnaught or OOO vs GA)
The Furch is just so beautiful 😍
I slightly prefer the Furch in this video, though the Taylor is also beautiful. More bass on the Furch, and the Taylor sounds like a classic Taylor. Plenty of brightness, but a bit light on the lower end. To be fair I have two Furch guitars so I am biased. I have the GCR Elite and the Faith/Furch 12 fret 000. I always liked what Nanci Griffith and Suzanne Vega did with their Taylor guitars, though I think Suzanne Vega jumped ship later on!
Enjoyed this comparison! The Furch was warm and full sounding, really beautiful. And to my ear the Taylor beat it in almost every segment. It's warmth and clarity are just beautiful to me. I guess I'm just a Taylor eared guy. I've got two 714ce's, one a couple years old and one over 20 years old - and love them both. This Furch's tone reminds me of my 50 year old Giannini made of Brazilian rosewood. Great rich full tone. For me both guitars sounded much worse in the last electric segments. So I'd keep the Taylor, but I'd love to have that Furch sitting along side my other guitars! Thanks for the good vid!
the furch. i don't know why (well i played one taylor i didn't like it one bit) so i'm biased without good reason. other than i've played a couple of furch's and they were really nice to play and way nice finish for the money. i've had about 60 guitars in the last few years, my keepers are 66 j45 (i've had since the 70's) recently acquired 69 epi texan, maton ebg808te, larrivee OMO3 zebrano, martin OOOX1, and a bunch of others. i like those fret markers on the furch too. don't like th rosette but love the abalone.
C’mon now. Would count myself fortunate to have either one of those beauties
was close for a bit but 13:30......... that did it for me. Definitely the Furch. It has it all!!!!!!!
Conundrum. The Taylor has more harmonics but the Furch is more articulate. However, you can get the Taylor to be more articulate with a hybrid 12-56 Elixir string set and then perhaps some Martin Liquid metal bridge pins or buffalo horn bridge pins. lastely a Taylor with the right bone saddle can produce warmer sound yet more articulate.
The notes on the Taylor ring through more clearly. The Furch is softer sounding. They may look the same shape, but the Furch is prettier. Unfortunately it doesn't have the same clarity.
I fully agree.
Can't go wrong with either ,as they both sound great. I did alot of guitar shopping (3 stores, 5 brands, played 17 acoustics) Purchased a Taylor 414ce-R as it "spoke to me" and this particular guitar, just played like butter. Which one do you enjoy more? oNe LovE from NYC
Thanks for the comparison Jason! Based on tone at least to my ear the Furch is the clear winner! The quality of the woods and the LR Baggs pick-up are superior on the Furch? Even so, Taylor guitars are impeccable and among the most comfortable to play guitars on the market? How do they compare to your preference? Do you like how they record? Would the extra weight of the Cocobolo be a burden to lug around? Does it matter to you that Furch doesn’t carry the same name recognition as the Taylor, should you decide to resell? Ultimately the choice is yours and you should choose the guitar you like the best? For my money I would let go of both and buy a Boucher as I believe they are superior to both?
I have a Taylor which I love as it's effortless to play,But it would be the Furch every time
Furch had more overall warmth and in years to come should open up even more with more warmth. Taylor had more overall treble but if I’m leaning towards one over the other it would go to Furch on this matchup
Hi buddy, if I were you I'd keep the Furch delux. It's twice the guitar of a Taylor 814. Big fan of furch guitars. I own 4 of them. I don't like the new v class bracing on Taylor. Prefer the old x brace. Dean 🇬🇧
Furch! I found that the Taylor for that kind of $$$$ is not as good. I thought when plugged in the Taylor sounded muddy. For contrast, the Taylor sounded more vintage in sound but that is suggestive. You are a great player and I loved the video. You made it easier to compare vs. some other comparison videos. What you did not say where both of these instruments out of the box or did you have them set up to your liking? I did tons of research and I feel that a "Modern Furch" will be worth a lot more in the long run. I recently bought a Furch Red Pure D-SR. Love it. I have been having it sit on a tone right now for over 300 hours. I have three guitars and travel a lot for work. I am a beginner player and did a lot of research to buy the Red Pure over a Martin D-28. I have a 15 series Martin which I love, all Mahogany. l had to get it set up because the action was very high. Of course I took it to a great Luthier. It plays amazing. When I went after the Furch over the D-28, I did not want to spend another 200 bucks for a good set up. This Furch right out of the box is perfect. I also have an Eastman AC622CE that is like a piano with Sitka over flamed maple with all the bling you have ever wanted. I may be remiss by not being a Taylor fan but... Furch at your level as well as my Eastie are all handmade and QC'ed. I look forward to discovering your channel. Fan right here.
Jason - Take your time! that is the best advice. keep playing them back and forth, back and forth. give yourself a 2 week deadline. Use the 80% rule if one of them serves your 80% desires than that's the one. USE your gut! which one do your REALLY want? Don't rely on the looks or what they are made of that is all a non issue! How do they feel and SOUND? what feels the most like you - in your lap and in your ear! best - mike
The taylor sounds better, I was so glad you did this comparison I was wondering because I had heard how good the Furch guitars are and they are but to the 814 CE no no no but, I'm biased I went into Casino guitars about a year ago to get strings. No more buying guitars... In the last 6 years I've purchased and traded 7 or 8 instruments including Martin's Taylor's, Gibson's but I wasn't getting a anymore,,, I went in the back of Casino guitars and had to pull down the prettiest guitar on the wall a 814 CE. " MAN " did that 814 sound great and it felt like it played it self.... i had no cash but Visa saved the day 4700.00 $$ later and I'm so glad I did,,God is so so so good, I thank him every day for all my things but the 814... thankyou lord, thank you with all my heart.......!!!!!
Nice playing mate. I think I prefer the Furch overall. Did I detect a hint of Green Grass and High Tides beginning around 12.35?
I don’t know that song, but maybe.
Perhaps the mic placement is a little off as I hear a lot of the room resulting in both guitars (to my ears) sounding remarkably similar. I love the look of the Furch, it has more personality and though a little compromised by the mic positioning seems to have a fuller sound acoustically. However, I prefer the Taylor Expression pick up to the LR Baggs which (no matter which type) always has that transistorised mid range honk.
The Furch without question!!!!!
Furch!! I have Red Gc-SR. I really wanted Gc-LC
definitely Tylor ! ... great name, second to none quality, unmatched playability, great sustain, superb aftersales service, much better investment (much easier to sale later on). Tylor 800 series is cheaper (better value for money ) compared to Red DLX Furch.
If I had to choose, I'd keep the furch. I do a lot of gumbaya strumming and liked the less foward sound of the Furch there... I prefered the taylor for single notes arpegios thingy but I do less of that. I own a 214ce-cf-dlx that I really like acoustically, it's quieter than a big dread and I can sing on top of it better than some other guitars that are all solid wood, my 214 is my goto guitar for quiet Saturday morning jam in my living room, my Taylor have better action and just feels great. I'm used to the small nut width... but I'm not a fan of the ES2 and in that video, the anthem sounded better to me than the ES2. So while I absolutely do not plan to sell my little Taylor... I'll probably be in the market for a second grand auditorium body at some point. Another very personnal little thing, I'm not a big fan of guitars without a pick guard... I know it's silly, but it is what it is for me!
The furch does have a clear pick guard, but I agree that I am used to the aesthetic with a visible one. That's why I chose the 814 over the 914.
Biased...sold two Taylor’s for my Furch Red Deluxe Gc-SR. Taylor has a great sound, bright and balanced, but I prefer a “woodier sound. No regrets
They’re actually both great Guitars the reason why I ended up buying a Furch is two fold, the LR Baggs anthem system versus the Tailor and the Furch just sounds a little richer.
I Think that Furch has a warmer tone, and the microfones is better on the Furch, and Furch’s cocobolo Color and the inlays. Furch for me.
Sorry for my bad englisch. I would take the Furch. To my Ears it´s still a Little Bit compressed, but Think this will get better and she will More Open up. But the Sound is Sweet, Fine and all Stick together. Sounds like ist should sound, all notes are at the Right Place.
The Taylor…. Im a Little Bit surprised…… More attack, More Single Points that Stick out of the croud, but some of These flashlights sound like they don‘t belong to the Rest. My wife has a Furch Dreadnought for 18 years now, and I love the sound of These „big belly“.
Sound Matters! Best regards Björn. (Fuking autocorrection on Ipad)
The Taylor ES2 wins pickup wise just like I thought it would especially when fingerpicking as the under saddle pickups show the quack.
Well done comparison vid!
Would love to hear same comparison with non-coated strings....like John Pearse phosphor bronze or even Martin Phosphors.
Not the thuddy Elixirs.
Taylor has somethings that I really like: A brighter more cutting sound with great volume/The ES2 system which I find superior because it is adjustable in 3 courses of strings and sounds really good/New tech such as machining techniques and bolt on neck for easy neck adjustments. Tone is so subjective, some like really warm and some like myself like a lively instrument. I like nice lows but I want them really defined and clear.
I like the Furch Me-self. The esthetic appointments are VERY nice, and not just for looks they are also for function, ie: comfort, and a small step up from the Taylor. Acoustically (and isn't that what it is all about?) it sounds fuller, richer than the Taylor too. But if you have to plug it in, the Taylor ES2 system is preferable to me. The Baggs system in the Furch sounded like someone was crinkling paper next to the mic and cutting an occasional fart!
Easy, Furch is the keeper. Simply, the one you play more is the keeper and for me I like the sound of Furch better. Had 2 Taylors, 514 and 814, loved 514 but 814 was mostly sitting in a case and I always played my Martins
That Furch sounds really nice though. It has cut and nice lows as well. A hard decision for sure.
I have the 814ce and listened to my recordings plugged in dry, playing Landslide type style finger pick. Sound wise it sounds much better than what Im hearing here. Im not sure the Taylor is really this bad plugged in though I believe the pickup system generally is not the best.
difficult to decide: acoustically the Taylor is simply louder and more brillant; the furch a little more restrained but with more overtones, more elegant.
Plugged in the furch is clearly the winner: a fat mid punch that gives it more volume, the Taylor with almost thin sounding plain strtings. I don't know, if one could achieve more with the Taylor with an optimal modulation with the sound control.
In the end I'd keep the Furch with the hope, it will open acoustically even more by the time.
I didn't know what to expect going into it. After listening the difference is obvious. I'm keeping the Furch all the way. I was actually a bit surprised the Taylor didn't sound better than it does. That said, I took care of a $5,000 Taylor for a few months for a friend of mine and I was not impressed. If you can't afford a Furch, get a Yamaha L Series guitar. I found a brand new LL16 for under $1000. It sounds almost as good as the Furch and better than that $5000 Taylor I had.
+1 for the Yamaha LL16 ARE. Very under rated. Another guitar I regret parting with.
Furch blue vs ll16 are?
Price difference? Also a lot easier to get your hands on a Lefty Taylor if you can't wait.
Taylor 4k, Furch 4.5k.
@@jasonbussellsmusic8828 Thanks.
They sound really different from each other. Very hard decision to make. At the moment - I think the Furch has more lower end response than the Taylor - but the Taylor has more clarity than the Furch...My only advice is to hang on to both of them until the Furch has opened up some more. At that point I think you are more likely to make the right decision.
Thing is: Can a builder make great guitars at a reasonable price as well as bending end and Taylor's building tech allows them to do that. They were my choice because their affordable ranges are so good.
Furch is warmer, fuller and with a nice sustain. My ears…Furch would be my choice.
So in the end which did you keep?
The fundamentals are:
1) Price tag. At MSRP $7097 the Furch is almost $3000 more expensive than the Taylor. It comes down to affordability. If you could afford the Furch then you can afford to keep both.
2) Tone woods. Cocobolo does sound like cocobolo as rosewood sounds like rosewood. It comes down to personal preference. I would keep both as each has its own tones.
However, with $7000 MSRP (if you managed to get a deal below Furch MSRP then it would probably still be a lot more expensive than the Taylor) I would get a custom shop Martin or Taylor with similar tone woods as the Furch and then compare them. That I call comparing apple to apple.
The Taylor was 4K, the Furch $4500.
@@jasonbussellsmusic8828 if someday you would like to have same Furch Red Deluxe Gc-SR with rosenwood - I would really glad to exchange it with you by giving additional $$$ from my side 😂
@@Therapyxx Thank you for the offer, but I'm pretty attached to the cocobolo pattern on this one. Good luck in your search though, I'm sure you can find one.
In my opinion we would like to hear your opinion. You took us through a long comparison video but we didn't hold, play, feel or hear except through our devices each guitar - but you said nothing? Which one would you keep?
Furch. Deeper and great string separation.
I would keep the Taylor 814 CE because I own one!. The Taylor also cost less than the Furch. One cannot compare two guitars with different prices.
if we take the basic version of Taylor 814ce BE and Furch Red Delux (DLX here is same as BE as they both have Bavel Duo) otherwise we have to compare also Furch Red basic versions, which costs much less....
well. Taylor 814ce BE - Thomann - 5000 Euro in Germany. Furch Red Deluxe Gc-SR (same woods as Taylor) - 4000 Euro.
if you want almost same sound, but pure version like Furch Red (Pure) - You would get it for 3000 easy. Taylor 814ce not builders edition - 4200 by Thomann.
But yes, Cocobolo version are expensive, its overall expensive wood for any guitar, like pure KOA Taylors K22.
Furch. Which I have. But the honest answer is not about the sound of both instruments or reputation. Its about which one inspires you as the player. I have never come across a guitar which inspires my writing more. That simple.
They're both good sounding guitars. But I definitely prefer the Furch. It's much more balanced and pleasing sounding, more full, more body and smooth. There's contexts I could prefer the brighter sounding Taylor, like in a busy mix. But, I think I'd rather deal with that by using brighter sounding fresh strings, and touch of air EQ, and have a guitar that sounds acoustically satisfying all-rounder. But it's subjective, and I'm thinking more of using an acoustic in a solo, singer-songwriter or small ensemble type situation. If you were the lead singer in a rock band strumming rhythm acoustic guitar over a loud band, the Taylor would cut through better. But again, the Furch pickup sound is better there too.
I own both , a Taylor and a Furch. Like most people here, my Furch is head and shoulders above my Taylor. I must say that the Furch was a happy fluke. I'd read a lot about them and eventually found a used Blue series online. It has no pickup , as it's for recording use only. I use a Godin for live work. I've been gigging for 57 years . I'd previously had a 70's Gibson Hummingbird with a woody tone to die for. Now, the Furch , in all honesty , is the nicest guitar i've ever played. It suited everything about my physicality and playing style . My fretting hand has never had it so good. It's strung with Thomastics and has a sound that's extremely sympathetic to the chord structures i use . I'm a lucky man.
Thank you so much Rodney. I’m in the market and your words are very helpful. I play a lot of classical and fingerpicking only, on a very nice blueridge dread. I know that may sound weird but it really works for me. Thank you again my friend!
@@fredriordan5660 Hi Fred. As they say, a guitar is a guitar, is a guitar. If it works for you , then that's all that matters. I have all these weird personal thoughts on the subject , like, " a good guitarist should be able to solo on a barbed wire fence " . Meaning , that in the long run, it's just a vehicle. It's wood and wire . Yet we build relationships with instruments to the point of almost unconditionally surrendering our power to the instrument . I'm a victim , to the point of building guitars as well haha. On the other hand, there are days when i have to say , ok guitar, you work for me, not the other way round. I'm the boss and you'll do as your told. Then there are the days where this guitar you've been so happy with feels like crap. It's one of those things that continually keep us on our toes. So, what works for me, may not work for you. Good luck with your search.
Hello Rodney! I really appreciate your vast knowledge and experience. It really helps us that are not in the business but just are blown away by acoustic guitars. There is nothing like it for me. Just finally figured out 4 and 20 by Stephen Stills. I’m sure you’re probably familiar with. It’s a DADDAD tuning. Tuning the g string down to d and back again doesn’t take long to break. Replaced it yesterday and then broke the high e. I live about 25 miles from the fret shop in Huntsville. Anyway getting back to brands, I am really looking at a red series Furch GA, and also a Alvarez om. You have so much experience at this and I would love to get your input if you have the time in any way you wish. Oh yes, your right about a guitar is a guitar. I think it’s which one speaks to you. Thank you again sir, I sincerely appreciate it. I almost forgot, my favorite musician living or dead is David Gilmour. Right behind him is Jeff Beck and Lindsey Buckingham. Just to give you an idea of what I’m into.
@@fredriordan5660 Hi Fred. When i was younger , i wanted to be Jeff Beck. In retrospect, i'm glad i didn't take up the option 😉. It took me years to realize that i can't be him. He already had the gig. So, i learnt to concentrate on just being me. I've done a few acoustic trio's over the years. I was a big Stephen Stills fan too. I used to love doing " Change Partners ". In the early 80's i stumbled across a Yairi acoustic. I was very impressed with it. When i was looking for my Furch, i was checking out new Yairi's as well. Nice guitars.
Just bought a Maestro 12 string from Singapore hard to beat these guitars for the price.