The OTHER Rebel ships you almost never see...
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- In this video I thought it would be fun to dig into Star Wars and Star Wars Legends to examine some of the less common Rebel and New Republic Star Fighters you almost never see... all that and more on today's Star Wars lore video!
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The H-wing was always one of my favorite not heard of aircrafts. For the longest time, none of my friends believed it existed!
And believe it or not, it's the earliest "letter-wing" fighter after the movies. I have a redesign in mind for it that keeps and actually builds in its uniqueness and personality... I just haven't got the time to improve my skills and do so.
And if you're reading this, Shack, I doubt the gunner controlled the ion cannons; probably the co-pilot controlled those. The gunner had a turret, and it's pretty hard to simultaneously control forward-facing guns when you're spinning around.
H-Wing looks fun and I like how it actually has a bunk for the crew to use. I feel like it should have been redesigned as a long rance recon craft rather than a bomber. Have it fly around from system to system and fill it with sensors, ECM and such and try to be stealthy with it while scouting enemy movement.
I'd say the Vigilance being meant to combat A wings makes some sense. Military production companies compete for contracts all the time, so the Vigilance was probably just a different company's attempt to make an interceptor, but lost out to the TIE interceptor.
Production of the A-9 started five years after the battle of Endor and was faster than a Tie interceptor; but yeah it was developed by Kuat to compete against Sienar
Back in the early EU with the X-Wing games I liked the XG-1 Assault Gunboat being the Empire's response to Rebel heavy starfighters. TIE Bombers work better in swarms against capital ships or ground targets but can't really do offense in a dogfight. The Gunboat was a big target but its shields lasted and you could lay down a big field of fire.
Gunboats also appear in the Heir to the Empire books. Thrawn liked to use them for their advantages and hyperdrives
The H-Wing and Howlrunner are definite favorites of mine. I really like them, design and all.
The Howleunner resembles a clunky version of the Buck Rogers starfighter that Mcquarrie designed.
I love the Toscan 8-Q from legends. The ability to customise individual airframes depending on mission type would be huge for planetary defence forces. Depending on how fast the modules could be changed the Toscan could have a massive advantage as a carrier-based Starfighter.
The Toscanini 8-Q could be modified as more of a naval bomber.
My personal favorite was the K-wing, got to love that overarmed flying wing
My favorite was the K-Wing, the ultimate F*** you bomber, when something absolutely needed to die.
I can only imagine how the board meeting for this craft went down.
Director: Well gentleman, we have been tasked with designing the next generation bomber for the New Republic. How much ordinance should we put on the craft?
Everyone else: ALL OF IT!!!
The K-Wing is like the A-10 Thunderbolt of Star Wars
The K-Wing always struck me as Warhammer-esque with its sheer amount of dakka everywhere
God, the K-Wing is so cool. It's a laarty that isn't designed to drop troops.
Back before we got the Hero Shooter, my buddy and I talked about how cool Battlefront would've been with these in Rush or Operations: just pounding the everloving shit out of the other team.
How much hyperdrive shall we give it?
For some reason, none!
I honestly don’t like the look of the K-wing, instead I think the starfortress could be way better than it is now had lucasfilm and/or disney made it bomber version of a torrent starfighter but very beefed up (and maybe vertically stretches it a bit) and not make the bomb run in battle of D’Qar too traditional to one would be done by B-17s.
Yet another ship that the Resistance should’ve used to differentiate itself from the Rebellion
There's also the K-wing, an A-10 in space.
@@WolfeSaber9933 yep
For real, another common resistance L
@@WolfeSaber9933I'd say it's more of a su-34
Facts bro
Can you do a part 2 of this? I’d love to see more ships!
i think other than the scraping together reason, i think rebels having every type of fighter possible could have additional benefits in not giving the empire an easy way to identify likely rebel movement vs just regular people.
That sort of was how it worked, rebels sourced their materials from anywhere they could get it and whatever they could get which had the side benefit of making it hard for imperials to track anything
It also must be hard to develop easy counter strategies if every individual rebel cell you meet is different.
The most obscure, least seen Rebel fighter has to be the B-Wing. After they veered away from the second Death Star's still active shield they were never seen again.
Apparently there were issues with the B-Wing model and the green screen technology of the time, so the ships never looked right in combat scenes.
Which is a shame because we could have seen them taking down some ISDs
Well they've been in practically every game so it kind of evens out.
In the concept art for ROTJ there's a big scene where 2 B-Wings are flying over a ISD exploding. That scene never made it into the movie but if you watch ROTJ where Admiral Akbar says to concentrate all firepower on the SSD you see the ISD exploding in the background in a near similar way as the concept art. I have heard the same rumor that chris mentions about issues with shooting the B-Wing models so in my mind they would have appeared on screen at that exact moment in the movie and then the next shot would have been Admiral Akbar's command chair scene
I know not many people like it, but in the sequel trilogy (Episode 9) when the Resistance ships leave their base, you can see a B-wing as part of them
4:39 Actually the predecesor of the RZ-1 A-Wing was the R-22 Spearhead, which was an interceptor of very similar desing
I love the H-Wing for the simple reason that it looks like the chief engineer just glued 2 A-Wings together and called it a day
T-wing and the Planetary fighter were always classic designs to me. Something intriguing about the idea of a highly customized T-wing mixing it up flown by a mercenary pilot…. There’s a story there.
Later gen T-Wings are really solid. They don't get nearly enough love because of their disappointing debut issues. Honestly really impressive for their price point nonetheless, even stock Gen 1s. I used to hate these things, the A-9 and the Howlrunners until I got under tye hood and realized how much heat their packing in such a small unassuming frame. The T-Wing really reminds me in some ways of the Z-95. Just lots of potential there.
Just the right size for my purposes too, even if I might have to swallow my pride sometimes and rig up an external cargo harness ..or I guess HKD hauler brackets on the nose if I just wanna bring my swoop along.
Not much you can do with the A-9 unfortunately...really hard to work on without compromising something. Mostly just whatever you can get away with swapping out and still get it to communicate with the computer. Like working on a iPhone, and attaching non Apple-approved devices and cables to it. Just a finicky lil eggshell. Would be cool to see what they could have done with these things in later iterations had they not pulled the contract and ceased production. Probably some cool prototype testing variants floating around somewhere if you got the connections and the credits.
The Howlrunner is much easier but really is just fine as is for pretty much anything you're gonna want that setup for...anything else will require you to extend the cab which is fine if you just want an unarmed, unshielded civilian craft for atmosphere only with just enough cargo space for a weekend getaway or a small second seat for canyon thrill flying with a friend. But then again there are honestly far better and cost effective ways to spend your credits than converting a Howlrunner into another reason for your Mother-in-Law to complain.
My favorite would probably be the K-Wing. It just had so many weapons on it so it looked really cool.
I’d love to see the Rebels/new republic using Xg-1 Starwings and remark how the empire made a really good Rebel-like ship and even put ‘wing’ in the name.
I really loved the T-Wing from the Tie Fighter computer game. Wish that had stuck around.
I know EC Henry's long range patrol ship based on the B-Wing is fan made. But what he created with that ship is phenomenal. I would absolutely love to see it incorporated into SW at some point. Especially post Endor with the New Republic.
Saw this on my recommendations on the front page of YT and thought it was a new EC Henry video for a minute.
Oh well, you win some you lose some.
I was playing awakening of the rebellion today and just discovered the h wing from it, and then this video popped up!
I am so excited to see a running Panzer 1! I hardly see anyone bring up the Panzer 1 when talking about axis armor.
Imagine a capital ship made of beskar, if it performed like the human armour then you may as well surrender because you're not going to hurt it at all.
I wonder how vulnerable it would be from an Ion canon?
ISD : I am here to bring Mandalorian to its kness
Fully Beskar CR90 with 10000 proton (more sensable than the sequels bomber ,also survivable because just fast) bombs in its modified cargo bay to armoured bomb bay and 8 quad light laser turrets (on sides) and 4 medium dual ion cannon turrets (main guns) and a spinal Plasma beam artillery( clone wars era SPHAT based ): Take left , take u turn take right
ISD : that's the way ?
Beskarus CR90: this is the way
ISD Aims at CR90 : u sure
CR90 : launches 1000 bombs : what do you think ?
Lambda shuttle : Pretty sure , Good bye good sir
@@bradmyst1339
Me : Shows how y wings evaded malevolence Ion cannons
Also shows how fast CR90 is
(I know malevolence is not the only Ion cannon weapon but CR90 is pretty fast)
I remember this ship! Thanks for discussing it. Love your content and I hope to see more!
1:24 It would make sense for canon to adopt some of these designs. The A-9 is a dope ship!
Dark Empire had so many "unique" ship designs. Cam Kennedy just went all out when making the ships. There's a panel where it shows a massive fleet of "Star Destroyers" orbiting a planet and there are SO many different variations of the ISD there you could literally spend a couple hours making a video describing all of them.
The M-class actually looks really cool. It gives off a really Cyberpunk aesthetic I feel.
It's interesting to see that not so many ships actually had an astromech socket, unlike the X and Y wing
The h wing is an amazing bomber and is perfectly represented in the awakening of the rebellion mod for empire at war when playing as the rebels
Eck is trying to will another Legends ship into existence
I love your outro where you or someone else is patting a dog on the top and sides of its head.
Also, the ships from naboo and gunships like the razor crest do not get enough love. I adore the nubian ships.
I have a few custom H Wing squadrons for Star Wars Armada. Im sure there are some stats for it out there but I usually out it on a Y-Wing base and have them as part of my uglies squadrons when I want a pirate faction, making it among the more capable ships (alongside the Chir'Daki Deathseeds) in those fleets.
Nice to hear you intro music. Have you dealt with the parasites claiming money?
I don't know if you've done them, but maybe a vid on the XJ-series X-Wing (including the Stealth-X, both in the Vong Invasion) and/or the LongProbe Y-wing from the (I think) Black Fleet Crisis
I’m sooooo happy the E-Wing is canon again! I’m not happy they took away the third heavy cannon on top of the canopy. I’m just hoping what they showed in Ahsoka was a variant. But I am happy it’s canon!!!! I love the design and the fact that it’s as fast as an A Wing.
I designed and built (on Bricklink Studio) a Lego MOC of a different sort of H-wing - a medium-duty dual turbolaser turret with A-wing engines, which could launch from a Star Destroyer, jump to the target, perform a hit and run with the turbolasers, and jump back to the SD. It could be slaved to the Star Destroyer's weapons systems or operated independently from the cockpit while connected to Star Destroyer power for much faster recharge rates.
I was always a fan of the Skipray Blastboat. Which seems to be a little bigger than a starfighter, I guess around the size of a Lambda Class Shuttle.
I want to see one on screen. They play a big part in the EU starting with Heir to the Empire until the end of the novel series. I'm hoping its made canon sometime in Ahsoka S.2 or the upcoming movie.
I'm surprised we don't see more on the tie avenger - basically a tie interceptor with Shields, hyperdrive, warheads, and excellent performance, while still cheaper than a tie defender.
If I wrote the story for a squadrons sequel, I'd have the A9 and the Howlrunner brought back in as Imperial fighters that are none ties. Have a mission where the Imperial side salvages some. Concentrating more on having fighters with quality in their predicament.
My favorite Star Wars ship that the Rebel Alliance / new Republic used was the Kwing as it was a true heavy gunship that really resembled a Flying Fortress but unlike the Flying Fortress was very fast in a straight line due to its sublight acceleration motor allowing it to rapidly launch itself at Targets unload a heavy payload similar to what Poe Dameron did against the Star Destroyer we shall not name but it was also heavily armed to the teeth with guns so it didn't really require an escort unlike other bombers. Not to mention the cockpit and Gunner section of the vessel could separate and fly separately as an escape ship that was decently armed if the main body of the ship was damaged
I've always loved the Z-95 Headhunter, R-41 Starchaser, E-Wing, and K-Wing, and I do like the T-Wing and H-Wing (as designs; I'm happily ignoring that they suck in practice, as the efficacy - both in space and in atmosphere - is arbitrarily assigned across Star Wars ships independent of their physical designs, anyway) as well as the Defender. The V-Wing, too, if it weren't just a speeder.
Why did they remove the mc75 submod for Thrawns revenge EAW??? Loved that ship, nice video Eck 👌
A lot of these are in Awakening of the Rebellion (AOTR) mod for empire at war, really great game
I would love to learn more about the fighter at 7:25. Kinda looks like a mix between the Porax-38 starfighter and the Belbullab-22
Could you do a video or two on the mandos in legends after the OT? i wanna hear about the beskar ships so bad those sound dope as hell!
H-Wing looks sick
I love obscure ships, fighters especially. Two missing from this list I can think of off the top of my head was the T-Wing, and the Miy'til (I think I spelled that right). And this is a nitpick of the highest order, but the alphabet in Star Wars is Aurabesh, and not English, so all the ABC Letter fighters kinda bugged me for a while because they wouldn't have an A, B, C, etc... But I get that it was named such for ease of understanding to casual viewers who, in 1977 especially, were not yet big on sci-fi and what it would become. Aura Wing does sound kinda cool though.
To paraphrase Madmordigan, "give me an A-Wing, Eric. Let me win this war for you."
I thought the K-wing was crazy cool. And the new intercepter ETA 5 I think?
Thanks for the video!
I love the H wing and M wing!
Suffering through 3 different adverts before getting to the video grrrrrrr why 😮
The H-wing also had a significant drawback: the stations were separate. The pilot could not fire the weapons and the gunner couldn't pilot the ship.
If you take a real-like aicraft, like the P-82 Twin-Mustang, into account, something like the H-Wing makes a lot of sense. Star Wars never leaned too much into computer-controlled starfighters during the Imperial Era, so having a bomber capable of light speed but with two pilots works quite nicely. The P-82 had twice the engines, twice the range, twice the survivability, and twice the pilot competency. I imagine the H-Wing would have been a bigger, heavier bomber capable of independantly hitting targets with much force.
Imagine if the Rebels used a BT-7 Thunderclap and the Starsaber XC-01 Starfighter?
Why the hell would they do that? I dont know what the star saber is but i assure you there arent any bt7s left.
@@snugglecity3500 There are plenty of old republic era ships still chugging around, so there would still be some Thunderclaps still around.
@@merafirewing6591 thats a case by case basis. You see any hammerhead cruisers around?
@@snugglecity3500yeah, Rogue one, rebels and episode 9 haha. But yes that guys idea of a nearly 4000 year old shuttle is a bad idea
@@JJJBunney001 they are hammerhead Corvettes not cruisers. Very different.
I prefer the Toscan 8-Q to start a rebellion. Cheap and easily modifiable with no one outside of Thrawn would see it as a threat. Hope to see it in Andor.
I would love a video of the T16 sky hopper.
God i fucking love this content
Talking of expensive fighters, what about prince xizors star fighter? Can’t remember the specific name but I could see you doing a sweet video
Ah, the StarViper. Always nice.
Yes!!!!! The Virago!
Huh. I'd never heard of the H-Wing, but now that I've seen it, I think I like it
Imperial gunboat/misselboat eqivalent for the y/b wing and there also cool looking and realy badass ships
The E-Wing is one of my favorite Star Wars fighters.
The H wing is just a huge square target 😂
I wish Dark Horse would have a newer more modern artwork done for the dark empire comic series made. Same story just more modern artwork
Disappointed you didn’t mention the mother of all bombers: the K-Wing
Lore ship Versus video request:
Resurgent vs. Starhawk
Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing
World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship
Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail
Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version)
Keldabe vs. ISD II
MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer
Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class
Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser
EAWX: FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator
Praetor vs. Subjugator
EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent
Starhawk vs. Bulwark MK III
Gargantua/Aratech 520 Battle Platform vs. A6 Juggernaut
The K-Wing is pretty well known much like the E-Wing, though I doubt Disney will bring it back into canon since it is ugly as sin.
The K-Wing is as obscure as the A-10, it needs no introduction.
It's still the scariest CAS aerospace craft in Star Wars though...
The H-Wing would be cool with one cockpit only and droids for the other roles.
I can envision one half of the craft being dedicated to ion torpedoes and other heavy anti-capital ship ordinance.
Disney's favourite ship: $-Wing
The Howlrunner? More like, the T.V. remote, but a ship with guns 🤣
5:10 VECTOR, OH YEAAAAAH, PIRANHA GUN
They need to make them canon!
I'm surprised we don't see more examples of Rebel Uglies, damaged starfighters frankensteined together because it was cheaper than buying replacements.
Yo Eck, you're one of the coolest Star Wars guys on youtube, care to make a rebel Ugly?
The Alliance could of got their hands on the Aurek Strike fighter, the original A-Wing. They were extremely compact and loved by mechanics,also very powerful for its size.
How? They were horribly outdated and thousands of years old, there probably wasn't any interest in them anywhere except for a collector
The starschaser is a ship i always wanted to see a heavy varient of like the A10 warthog but ive never seen a version like that
@@Empty00Eyes nice ill have to look into that
I miss these eckharts videos 😢
The H-Wing looks like the front of two Y-Wings slapped together.
Have you ever done a video on the K-Wing?
Given how Beskar is ridiculously expensive an even bit tough to work with unless your a Mando armorer or trained by one... Wouldn't building super warships for good or bad be not much more then a Mando wet dream???
Did Bo Katan daydream this up just before Din Jarin show up to give her a pep talk? Mayne Din got the idea after his "baby", the other one, got basically totalled on an alien backwater? Or did Boba elect to have a unique personal ship that even a squadron backed by a way bigger ship of enemies would have a tough time with???
Please talk about the Mando fighter in he legacy series, it was stealthed, made of beskar, and had a crap ton of weapons. If any ship was better then the tie defender its this thing
Ngl I've always thought these EU lesser known ships look like very wacky and generic sci fi ships you'd see in other franchises
1:58 ten years ABY is enough time that what remained of the Empire was probably scrambling to get whatever hardware they could get their hands on.
Not gonna lie, my biggest beef with the hwing was that 3rd cockpit. Center it, or put it in line, that wonky kinda here, kinda there location has pissed me off forever lol
Honestly love seeing lesser known ships as Xwings are good just boring at this point. As for a potential episode or series I'd personally love to see What if spotlights like if the empire sided with rebel designs but kept their style of ship design. For example a simple google ship search of a imperial B Wing shows a tie fighter cockpit on a blade wing design similar to the bubble fighter from the Lost in Space movie. Just a thought as I dont see anyone exploring exploring this idea.
Back in the 90s when I was a Star Wars RPG GM or player I liked to pilot the Y-Wing long range variant, could carry an astromech droid plus had a redundant nav computer and extra supplies, great for role play rescue missions or patrol.
The A-9 looks like the Imperial Alliance fighters from Star Fleet/X-Bomber.
The H-Wing reminds me of a F-82 Twin Mustang...
H-Wing? You mean the HALLO-WEENG?
The A-9 Vigilance is an interesting design from a visual perspective, but it wasn’t a very good starfighter. Also, I’d love to see a video (or at least an examination) on the Bothan Assault Cruiser someday.
I would much rather be in your basic A-9 than most TIEs, and even I would go as far to say first and maybe second gen A-Wings. Yeah sure it's a flying eggshell, but it's highly responsive, and depending on your weapons load out it can punch pretty high over it's weight class.
Don't let these yokel Rebel pilots who, struggling so much to learn their "A, B, C's" they got all their ships named after a letter to help them remember, fill your head with biased nonsense on this ship. It's a pretty capable little fighter. Just needs a pilot who understands it can do more than the pilot is capable of handling....and isn't afraid of the small room for error should you find your skills aren't up to the task.
I mean it would mean some long hours in the shop, but you could almost get an actually decent shield fit in there that wouldn't cause something to stick out too far, but the gross energy output is high enough that's it's possible without too much sacrifice or active toggling. Now whether or not the sensitive computer would become allergic to the modifications, well I don't know, maybe.... probably. Go steal one from one of the few higher ranking Imperials that already modded theirs and see how they got around it.
I personally would rather have it as a performance craft in atmosphere...take it for weekend getaway to the canyons and for "bombing" runs at the in-law's family BBQ.
Don't worry, those Mando ships undoubtedly would have been replaced by new boring X-wing and TIE updates in the next series. One issue with Legends that extended into the Disney era was going back to the same old designs rather than sticking with newer ones.
On one hand you're right. On the other, how dare you besmirch my glorious X-wing! lol (I honestly loved that the X-wing became the new Jedi starfighter in Legends, with Luke's Jedi eventually being given the Stealth-X)
@@RamielNagisa A starfighter isn't really the right ship for a lot of missions Jedi tend to be sent on. I feel like an armed courier ship of some sort would probably be best. Able to defend itself and others, but with some cargo and passenger space.
K wing. The Star Wars equivalent of an A-10 warthog.
Can't wait for a ß-Wing
The ship at 5:20 is just a space HIND lol
Have you ever done a video on hondo’s stereotypical ufo ships
We know how expensive Beskar steel is, the cost of building a capital ship out of it boggles the mind. If Beskar steel was available in those kind of quantities it wouldn't be so expensive as you could outfit millions of troopers with body armour with the same material as a single small capital ship.
Apparently the Vong accidentally exposed a large amount of Beskar at some point during their invasion of the galaxy or something, so the Mandalorians were actually sitting on more of the stuff than they thought.
Everyone with a crayon drawing a space ship
At least it looks like an H. Take notes B-Wing.
The H Wing kinda remotely reminds me of the Arc-170's bigger and heavier dedicated bomber version in terms of use and capabilities.
If you want offensive power, why would you pick an H-wing over a B-wing?
Or the K-wing?
that crazy
Does anyone else think it's odd that Star Wars keeps naming ships after an alphabet they do not use?
Why isn't the canon e-wing called the c-wing