It doesn't get any better than Kimi at McLaren. The fastest driver since Ayrton Senna. Enjoy it. You'll never see another driver and car combo like it again. That clip of Martin Brundle calling Kimi the "shining light" of F1's new generation was made at the end of 2004.
Super fast but not very consistent and reliable. A driver that only delivered 1 out of 10 races can't sit in the same table as Fernando, Michael, Ayrton, Alain or Jim.
@@rafamartinez6706 Kimi held the record for most consecutive points finishes in F1 before Mercedes broke it in hybrid era.....Kimi is equal or better to Alonso and you can't compare Jim Clark to the modern era....
I am a Finn, so some might say or think, that I can´t be objective about this, but imo there will never another Kimi Räikkönen, such a talent. He was born to do exactly this, nothing else, not to be e.g a doctor or lawyer.
I was fortunate enough to start my F1 journey with him. My dad said: There's this young Finnish guy and he challenges Schumacher. Went back into my room, took an A4 and wrote Räikkonen on it to wave it towards the TV. Wasn't really interested in it before that.
Started watching F1 back in 2000/01 with my Dad and brother, even though I was only a child I always thought Kimi was the best. Better than Michael who I loved equally. Good times.
Kimi arguably should have had two championships in 2003 and 2005. To challenge for the title in a year old car is an achievement in its own right. I doubt Schumacher would have done that if Ferrari went the whole of 2003 with their 2002 car that McLaren did, that would have been outpaced by the Williams of Montoya. But Kimi was more consistent than anyone else, what cost him that title was the engine failure in Nurburgring and the first lap collisions in Spain and Germany. In 2005, he had the fastest car since round 4 for the championship, but unreliability cost him at least 6 victories (San Marino, Nurburgring, France, Britain, Italy, Germany) and outpaced Montoya in the same car.
Despite only having one championship under his belt, the impression he left is on the same GOAT-Level as Schumacher or even Senna.........which is beyond impressive considering that for most of his career (i would argue) that the odds were mostly against hm. McLaren wasnt reliable as it should have been and Ferrari (maybe outside of 2007) always made him the second driver almost as if he were worthless...............a lot of it probably has to do with them not understanding (or refusing to understand) Kimi's style. Lotus wasnt high-tier enough (despite that, Kimi easily competed with the top dogs for the championship) and Alfa was simply low-tier (and despite that, he did managed to do some impressive stuff). And to be honest.............even when playing F1 games, it feels empty when Kimi isnt there. It simply makes me sad..........unless its before Kimi's time, then Mika (GOAT on his own) was there.
take a look at 1:39 , Kimi hit full throttle very early than Trulli. he was very talented in catching the sense of grip and very ballsy to hit full throttle directly rather than slowly hit the full throttle ( trulli ) . Also the rear was sliding a lil bit because Kimi was full throttling very fast yet he still managed to control it and avoid a spin
I don't know why but kimi was my favorite growing up and up until now in my mid 20s. My father was a huge Schumacher fan and he would belittle me for it. I was too little to watch the races by myself but every time kimi had the pole and I was aware of it, I used to go to the teletext and look for the results, only to find that he'd hat a DNF again. This guy should have been champion at least 3 times. Can you imagine him in a dominating car built for his needs? Absolut shivers. Anyway thank you for your dedication and love you put into the videos and keep it up, as I'm sure there is plenty more material :)
@@rafamartinez6706 Kimi only took that 2018 21st win at Austin to get the title of most wins by a finnish driver. He was better than Mika IMO. Mika had two great Mclarens that were much more reliable. We could only imagine what Kimi would have achieved if those cars held together better he may never have left F1and I'm certain he had more title in him.
@@Beau_Rivage Finishing 3rd twice in those 4 years in the 2nd best car when “its only a hobby for me”.. as a dedicated no2 driver should tell you just how quick the guy is but I guess it will never settle into your thick skull. Especially when the team switched them several times & that clown Vettel wiped him out at least 4times.
When I first got into F1, I thought everyone glazing V10s was annoying, and I called them overrated, watching old f1 now, I see why everyone loves V10s. The sound, and power, and speed. It’s absolutely incredible
I just realized how much the sound of the V12 and V10 engines played into falling in love with the sport. I now watch Indycar over F1, because both have dull engines, but at least Indycar has proper racing like F1 used to back when Kimi was at Mclaren.
Another Great Finnish 🇫🇮 Racing Driver Keke Roseberg & Ari Vatanen if you Where at Silverstone in 1985 and saw Keke In Qualifying you would have been stunned at his 160 +mph lap record plenty of highlights in Rosbergs career if you where at Pikes Peak to see Ari going up the Mountain you would stunned again can’t wait for the next
@@archiesutherland6127 No it's empirical analysis. Kimi had far more bad luck (4 DNFs) without which he easily beats Vettel. Kimi at his peak is far superior to anything Vettel could dream of.
@@archiesutherland6127 Except when he outqualified Vettel in 2016 at 37 years old and was faster in the races in 2018 at 40 years old. How fast was Vettel at 37? Oh wait.
Thanks for the compilation, great video. Kimi, what an amazing driver. Such a pity that during his peak he had to share grid first with two of the GOATs. He was definitely fast between 2003-2006, but it was almost impossible to shine near Schumi and Nando. At least he could harvest a title in one of the weirdest seasons ever, and he delivered well during his first journey in Ferrari. That duo Massa-Kimi was probably the last one were the Scuderia didn't have clear 1-2 roles, and they both were very close to each other... good times. Thanks again for compiling this, I really miss the 2000s F1
Kimi is one of the GOATS and was arguably higher rated than Alonso in that era - or at the very least equal as Martin Brundle states at the beginning of the video. Kimi only lost 2003 and 2005 because his car was unreliable, and Kimi was higher paid than Alonso by the time MSC retired for a reason. Kimi shined as much as anyone to be honest - MSC literally retired because he didn't want to face Kimi in the same team
In 2003 Kimi was definitely higher rated than Alonso, cuz Alonso had only one year in Minardi and one year as a test driver. But after 2004 and 2005 I think there’s not a lot of discussion, as Alonso was definitely the most talented driver on the grid, retiring Schumi and getting two WC without driving the fastest car in any of them. Salary? Yeah, Renault was one of the teams with the lowest payrates. But well, when Nando went to McLaren and later on to Ferrari he was the top paid driver of the grid and the most demanded driver. I think we all should remember that Alonso retired (and beat F2F) Schumi after 5 championships in a row, and beat peak Kimi while he was driving one of the fastest cars (true, a bit unreliable) of the last 2 decades. Alonso is the most talented driver by far since the 2000s.
@@rafamartinez6706 Brundle was speaking at the end of 2004 in the video above. In 2004 Kimi was easily higher rated than Alonso, and in 2005 Kimi won the prestigious International Driver of the Year award - not Alonso. Did you actually watch F1 outside of Spanish media those years? It sounds like you're Spanish or something. Alonso was beaten by Trulli in 2004 (before Jarno left Renault 3 races before the end), so any magazine at the time was saying his stock was lowered. Kimi was considered the absolute fastest in F1 even after Alonso won 2005. Kimi was also more popular so I would disagree - Kimi was shining even more brightly in many ways. Only because his car exploded all the time did he not win 2003 and 2005. Simple really.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Within the paddock Kimi was not rated higher than Alonso after 2004, Kimi's season was quite disappointing... after 2003 he was, his performance was superb. After 2005 there's no discussion, every single squad was trying to seduce Fernando, and he could sign a blank check almost anywhere. Autosport awards... let me laugh, perhaps you don't know but there are so many politics in there. Vettel won it in 2010-2012, Juan Pablo in 2003... Trulli beating Alonso? You have to be kidding. Kimi lost championships because of reliability? Well, he had the fastest car by far, he couldn't harvest enough points when his car was able to finish races. Too many mistakes, Nurburgring 2005 for example. There's only one way to evaluate drivers H2H, and that's when they share the same machine. It was clear for F1 pundits and experts that Alonso had more talent than Kimi, but In 2014 alonso wrote down a full stop. P.S. Not only I watched F1 outside of Spanish media, between 1999 and 2006 I was working in one of the F1 garages ;)
@@rafamartinez6706 Wrong. Kimi was considered far superior by the end of 2004 he was outperfoming his car so much while Alonso was spinnng out at Monza etc. Kimi was the best driver in Formula 1 alongside MSC - just listen to Brundle in the beginning of the video you're commenting on! He is talking at the end of 2004! For goodness sakes. Alonso was struggling with Trulli, while Kimi obliterated his teammate despite having 8 DNFS that season. Kimi didn't have a poor season at all - the car just kept blowing up. Get real, son. Everyone knew how good Kimi was.
My first race i watched was 2003 hockenheim on the Television and he had that mega start and got taken out and when he got out of the car he was so pissed and from then on he was my favourite driver
Great video Ciaron! Do you think you may be able to do such a video for Schumi too? I think I am going to be wildly controversial now... I think the racing that we have got now (2022) is just much better than the one in the 00s. I am not saying today's drivers have better racecraft than Kimi at all, as shown in the video Kimi's racecraft was amazing, he really mastered those cars and he knew both how to be blistering quick but also a superb racer. I am just saying that overall the racing is now better because of both the cars and the overall driving. My explanation: a lot of people hate the DRS and I agree that sometimes it is just too powerful and makes overtaking too easy, but when it is calibrated right, it just allows the cars to be very close around the lap and invites overtaking and wheel to wheel battles. At the same time a lot of people complain about the width of today's cars, and even though it is true that on some tracks this makes overtaking basically impossible (Monaco is the prime example), I feel like in the majority of the tracks they are actually the "right size" to enable good racers to defend their positions. The 00s cars actually look too tiny to allow a good driver to defend against a fast car coming up behind. Again, I am aware this may be seen as controversial, but just look back at some of the racing we had this year: the battle for the lead between Charles and Max in Bahrein lasted 3 laps and was just thrilling, with some amazing racing (mostly on Charles part I have to say), then Saudi was incredible, with the leaders following each other in a super high speed track at less than 1second with very similarly paced cars. Some of the action we had in USA was great (Charles on Checo, Seb on Kevin!), we had the five cars battle in Austria, Silverstone was just a stunner with the three best teams battling it out lap after lap and a series of overtakes in basically every part of the track, probably the best laps of racing I have ever seen. In Brasil (especially in the sprint) we also had thrilling racing with defending and mental games between George and Max, Spain was the same, France had amazing action between Carlos and Checo and I could go on. I feel like most of the overtakes in the 00s were either due to pitstops or due to one car being MUCH faster than the one in front, and only a very special driver like Kimi could pull something really special out of the bag at times, while today we have many more exciting battles because drivers attack and defend hard and the battles can go on for laps, even between the leaders.
Yes I agree to an extent but the overtakes meant more back then. And I don't think seasons are more exciting now than back then. We had 3 boring seasons - 2001, 2002 and 2004, in that era. We've had much more in this era in my view.
@@rafamartinez6706 Alonso got lucky in 2005 - Kimi was the faster driver but his car kept breaking down in FP sessions (10 place penalty) or in the race. It wasn't boring but it was strange, because the best driver definitely didn't win the title in my view in 2005. In 2006, Kimi wasn't even in a competitive car so it's hard to say. Alonso was better than MSC in 2006, but would he have beaten Kimi in equal speed/equal reliability cars in 2006 ? Doubtful.
@@rafamartinez6706 2005 can be boring to some, but 2006 was absolutely nowhere near boring just go and watch those full race highlights and seasons and not those insta/youtube shorts because schumacher would have become a 8 time world champion that year.....
Becose Kimi is a row Driver, a true Relly Driver..! No Electronic, No DRS, NRS, no Bullshit...! At that Era/Tima (Mclaren Mercedes) he was the quckest Driver without a doubt. I am (was at that time Schumacher Fan) but Kimi was unbelivabel.., quick as Hell. This is a Fact. At that particularry Time he dosn't had an "inough durable" material/car for his Speed/Quickness. The quikcest in the Field..! Fact and Point ...!
Thats 2 secs faster than any lap weve seen in the race. Wow Brundle: why do you have to take that risk? What?? It was just one lap you numpty. That was an L comment from MB
@@stampas2959 Except Lewis couldn't beat Kimi when Lewis had a quicker car in 2012, 2013, so I disagree. Peak for peak, Kimi is just as consistent, if not more so.
It pains me seeing this. Honestly ferrari fucked about with him. And ironically he won his only title with them. When i hear all this bs about how he got bored and wanted to leave f1 to do other things i know thats nonsense. All the man wanted was a racing winning car (which he fully merited) and a team that could back him. He wouldve never taken two years out like he did if it wasnt for the way ferrari treated him. Mclaren were complete mugs for hiring jenson button over kimi. One of the most flukish world champions ive ever seen. A man that won races with a double diffuser and then dropped back down to where he belonged when everyone else did the same thing. Wouldve absolutely loved it if he returned there But 14-17 was very painful to watch. It wasnt who he was. Especially after two great years with lotus where he was almost back to his very best Im still adamant that ferrari shouldve backed kimi for the title and made seb their no.2 but that was never gonna happen in his last year. And 2019 was a real underrated season of kimi with alfa romeo. He had some seriously underrated performances even in qualifying for a 40 yr old. Just showed that he always had pace with right setup and not being "past it" or lacking motivation and committment. Load of rubbish that
Thanks for the comment - I agree with you on most things. First, about Ferrari - they never understood how to make the car suit Kimi's driving style which was the main issue during his time there as Kimi has said. But I think McLaren wanted Kimi in 2009 and 2013 - they gave him contract offers in both years to drive in 2010 and 2014.. The issue in 2009 was that McLaren were going to pay Kimi less than what Kimi would have earned by sitting out. So Kimi declined - this is the official story. From what I understand Kimi was first choice from the start (Kovalainen said in an interview that McLaren's preference was 1. Kimi 2. Jenson 3. Himself). But I've always said I am not a Ferrari fan. They simultaneously helped Kimi get a title, but also demolished his legacy in certain moments. Obviously he's a legend, but in many ways despite Ferrari, not because of them.
@@ciaronsmith4995 facts ferrari did destroy kimis legacy. I felt embarassed when he won his last gp in usa 2018 when most of us were happy/relieved. When crofty mentioned it was his first win in 113 races it cringed me out. A driver that good should not be going that long without a race win. Thanks for explaining the mclaren situation btw. Maybe i went in hard on them a bit irrationally haha. I was just praying to see kimi back to his best again. I miss his prime so badly.
Don't cut the clips mate, you ruin them. The slide at turn 2 at China start in 2006 has a great save, and right after defending VS Montoya in the pit exit at Brazil he gets passed in turn 4. Show the whole side by side bits.
Why would I show Montoya passing Kimi in a racecraft of Kimi compilation? This is highlighting Kimi's racecraft - not Montoya's. If I do a JPM one, I would show that pass (which was obviously very good) by JPM.
@@ciaronsmith4995 because they went side by side through the pit exit and then turn 4 always giving each other room. It says "racecraft". Not overtakes. Being passed after a whole sector of fighting side by side always knowing where the rival is is also racecraft
@@dyr_glpsn4209 I don't think Kimi getting caught off guard in Brazil is a good display of racecraft. Kimi was too cautious on exit simply put. Montoya is one of the best driver around Interlagos ever. That was JPM's circuit. Nobody really beat him there on merit ever in F1. Either he crashed or he won that race.
Dude I’ve been watching your channel closely in recent weeks, and it’s really good, and some of your opinions are valid and correct. However I must state, your channel is excessively biased in favour of Raikkonen, and as such this questions your credibility and legitimacy. My view is that the correct approach is to follow the evidence, and go where the evidence goes. Any other way is an error. I’ve watched F1 as a mega fan since 1993 and have observed the careers of many of the great drivers during this time. There is no doubt that Raikkonen was very good in terms of raw natural talent, but he was definitely not better than Alonso and Hamilton.
It's not bias it's just my opinion based on empirical evidence. At his peak? Raikkonen was definitely faster than both Hamilton and Alonso in my view. Definitely faster than Alonso in the tyre war - that's not even controversial. There is no bias. I present facts and numerous quotes to support my views (many public F1 figures say the same). Just scroll though the channel. Nothing is done through emotion all through analysis. Cheers. I live in Woking (where McLaren are). Most engineers here I 've met don't disagree with me. Most people make the mistake of using a season like 2008 or 2014/2015 to blanket a 20 year career. Unfortunately, that's not a valid way to judge the pure talent or peak ability of a driver. Cheers - if my life was on the line, I am picking a tyre war Kimi over any version of Lewis or Alonso.
I would say most of Schumi's prime was in the 90's - but not all of it obviously. 2000 was his greatest season alongside 1997, the 2000 McLaren was easily the best car that year. Regarding Kimi, you're simply wrong. He's arguably the fastest WDC of the 21st century and probably in the top 2 considering his peak. It's either Schumi or Kimi at #1 for me in terms of pure raw ability this century. Button and Rosberg are tiers below a peak Kimi. You've sort of exposed your knowledge (or lack therof) when you make blanket statements like that.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Well, Kimi had a rocket in 2005, with a standard car he would have ended 30-40 points behind Alonso. He made many mistakes, such as Nurburgring were he destroyed his tyres. He had the best car and was in his absolute peak, if he didn't win is because he didn't compete well and because Alonso, with a car 5 tenths slower, simply overperformed.
@@rafamartinez6706 And Alonso didn't make mistakes? Alonso made an even bigger mistake at Nurburgring at the hairpin and got lucky; in Canada he crashed by himself and lost his front wing in Hungary. Kimi was generally flawess and just unlucky. Even when the car wasn't the fastest, like in Japan, he still won. In Japan and China Renault turned up their engine and it was still 1-1.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Even a bigger mistake in Nurburgring? You gotta be kidding. Alonso got hit hardly by Ralf in turn 1 and still managed to recover and showed a great pace in a circuit where the McLaren were clearly faster. He only made a tiny mistake in the hairpin when the race was basically settled. Raikkonen had a clumpsy drive over the 59 laps, he went wide many times and even lost the lead to Heidfeld in lap 30 cuz he left the track! The McLaren was clearly faster and still Kimi's tyre management was poor, we wasted the tyres, locked many many times (even lapping Villeneuve he locked hardly!), didn't manage the gap and didn't take care of the car, and the heavy vibrations that he provocked eventually ruined his race. Even without the crash Alonso was passing him and winning. That race actually showed one of the weakest points of Kimi, in general he had a poor car management during the race and he was not as good and smart as Fernando or Michael dosing the car and controlling and securing races. He only knew how to go 100% every lap. In Canada Alonso was very unlucky, he just touched the wall as many cars do in Canada every race weekend, but unfortunately his suspension was gone. Raikkonen was also lucky that Montoya messed it up during the SC and that McLaren favoured him letting him pit first. Juan Pablo was ahead the whole weekend... In Hungary, you gotta be kidding again... Alonso lost the wing thanks to the clumpsy drive of Ralf that closed the door heavily in turn 1. It was unfortunate that he lost the wing driving through the kerb precisely in the circuit where overtaking is a huge challenge. Kimi was again lucky that Juan Pablo's car had another reliability issue when he was ahead with good odds to take the victory. Looks like you didn't watch f1 in 2005...
@@rafamartinez6706 You forgot Alonso ran off the circuit at the Dunlop Curve in the middle of the race - the biggest error by any driver all race. Do you even watch Formula 1? Kimi was unlucky. A flat spot should never cause the suspension to fail the way it did. Alonso made more errors that season than Kimi did in the races - that's for sure. With reliable equal to Renault, Kimi dominates that championship beyond words. Not to mention a race was cancelled which further helped Alonso. Imagine if Trulli was in that Renault!
In his first 3 seasons with McLaren, he won two races. In his second stint with Ferrari.....5 seasons........he won one race. That`s not legendary racecraft. Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton, and Verstappen.........THAT`S......Legendary Racecraft !!!!!!! ( And to all the Räikkönen fans, no need to comment ) !!!!!!!
Because his car was constantly breaking down at McLaren - his second stint at Ferrari is not relevant to the video. He nearly won the title in a 1 year old car in 2003 and won a race in a 2004 McLaren which nobody on the planet could have done. Between 2002-2004, he had 20 DNFS from car failures. Research before you comment. His performance peak in that period was higher than Vettel could ever dream of and higher than Lewis' in my view too. Had his car been reliable, he easily wins the 2003 and 2005 world titles. Easily the world's fastest driver as everyone knew at the time.
his car broke down probably more than anyone in F1's historoy. Don't come on here commenting when you don't have a clue what your talking about and then have the audacity to tell people that have watched F1 for 40years including every race since 2001, not to comment.Clown
It doesn't get any better than Kimi at McLaren. The fastest driver since Ayrton Senna.
Enjoy it. You'll never see another driver and car combo like it again.
That clip of Martin Brundle calling Kimi the "shining light" of F1's new generation was made at the end of 2004.
If Kimi in McLaren is 100, what's Max in the 2022 Red Bull as a comparison?
Love it..the goat and legend the iceman
Super fast but not very consistent and reliable. A driver that only delivered 1 out of 10 races can't sit in the same table as Fernando, Michael, Ayrton, Alain or Jim.
@@rafamartinez6706 Kimi held the record for most consecutive points finishes in F1 before Mercedes broke it in hybrid era.....Kimi is equal or better to Alonso and you can't compare Jim Clark to the modern era....
Ok, so now you say that at least they could be equal… 😂
One thing Kimi does, is always leave space for his rival.
Fernando can confirm
Always
It's a crime that Kimi didn't win the title in 2005.
And 2003
Definitely deserves to be more than a 1 time world champion
Michael Schumacher, Kimi Raikkonen, Fernando Alonso and Juan Pablo Montoya. The 4 pillars of the 2000s. A great time!
Don't foget about Häkkinen.
Without him, Räikkönen whouldn't have the chance to go to McLaren in 2002.
Forget*
Alonso > Schumi > Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kimi
@@rafamartinez6706 Whatever.
@@rafamartinez6706 Kimi > Alonso > JPM. Alonso wasn't any faster than Trulli in this era. Sorry.
2003-2007 Kimi absolute beast! Kimi in his prime was one of the best all time.
I am a Finn, so some might say or think, that I can´t be objective about this, but imo there will never another Kimi Räikkönen, such a talent. He was born to do exactly this, nothing else, not to be e.g a doctor or lawyer.
I was fortunate enough to start my F1 journey with him. My dad said: There's this young Finnish guy and he challenges Schumacher. Went back into my room, took an A4 and wrote Räikkonen on it to wave it towards the TV. Wasn't really interested in it before that.
And when you knew his Mercedes engine would blow up any second, you wouldn't feel bored watching the whole race.
Kimi's epoch in McLaren without DRS!!! WHAT A LEGEND 🤟
Started watching F1 back in 2000/01 with my Dad and brother, even though I was only a child I always thought Kimi was the best. Better than Michael who I loved equally. Good times.
Kimi arguably should have had two championships in 2003 and 2005. To challenge for the title in a year old car is an achievement in its own right. I doubt Schumacher would have done that if Ferrari went the whole of 2003 with their 2002 car that McLaren did, that would have been outpaced by the Williams of Montoya. But Kimi was more consistent than anyone else, what cost him that title was the engine failure in Nurburgring and the first lap collisions in Spain and Germany. In 2005, he had the fastest car since round 4 for the championship, but unreliability cost him at least 6 victories (San Marino, Nurburgring, France, Britain, Italy, Germany) and outpaced Montoya in the same car.
Kimi = best F1 driver.
Ciaron = best F1 RUclipsr.
Despite only having one championship under his belt, the impression he left is on the same GOAT-Level as Schumacher or even Senna.........which is beyond impressive considering that for most of his career (i would argue) that the odds were mostly against hm. McLaren wasnt reliable as it should have been and Ferrari (maybe outside of 2007) always made him the second driver almost as if he were worthless...............a lot of it probably has to do with them not understanding (or refusing to understand) Kimi's style.
Lotus wasnt high-tier enough (despite that, Kimi easily competed with the top dogs for the championship) and Alfa was simply low-tier (and despite that, he did managed to do some impressive stuff).
And to be honest.............even when playing F1 games, it feels empty when Kimi isnt there. It simply makes me sad..........unless its before Kimi's time, then Mika (GOAT on his own) was there.
I Wish I could have seen them all at their peaks
Here's your chance.
Schumacher 94-99 vs 02-05 Kimi would’ve been the greatest championship battle ever. 100x more intense and entertaining than Hamilton vs Verstappen
@@48waffles36 but maybe not so intense but more exciting cos both would actually know how to race each other properly
@@48waffles36 Schumacher 94-2002
Raikkonen 2002-2007
Alonso 2010-2014
@@matz1974 Fernando doesn’t have a prime, he’s still now in his prime
Ah... Kimi at McLaren and F1 2001 PS1 menu music. Brings back so many memories : )
Imagine if that 2005 McLaren was *reliable* 👀
Shame he never won a title with McLaren
take a look at 1:39 , Kimi hit full throttle very early than Trulli. he was very talented in catching the sense of grip and very ballsy to hit full throttle directly rather than slowly hit the full throttle ( trulli ) . Also the rear was sliding a lil bit because Kimi was full throttling very fast yet he still managed to control it and avoid a spin
I don't know why but kimi was my favorite growing up and up until now in my mid 20s. My father was a huge Schumacher fan and he would belittle me for it.
I was too little to watch the races by myself but every time kimi had the pole and I was aware of it, I used to go to the teletext and look for the results, only to find that he'd hat a DNF again.
This guy should have been champion at least 3 times. Can you imagine him in a dominating car built for his needs? Absolut shivers.
Anyway thank you for your dedication and love you put into the videos and keep it up, as I'm sure there is plenty more material :)
oh i know what you did there
f1 2001 soundtrack
man of culture
Kimi at McLaren the greatest after Senna at McLaren. The 2 best ever in F1.
Well Kimi was brilliant, but there was also Mika..
@@stampas2959 Mika was far better than Kimi...
@@rafamartinez6706 Except Kimi beat DC by a far bigger margin...while Mika lost to DC twice.....Kimi is clearly the better driver. I like both.
@@rafamartinez6706 Kimi only took that 2018 21st win at Austin to get the title of most wins by a finnish driver. He was better than Mika IMO. Mika had two great Mclarens that were much more reliable. We could only imagine what Kimi would have achieved if those cars held together better he may never have left F1and I'm certain he had more title in him.
@@Beau_Rivage Finishing 3rd twice in those 4 years in the 2nd best car when “its only a hobby for me”.. as a dedicated no2 driver should tell you just how quick the guy is but I guess it will never settle into your thick skull. Especially when the team switched them several times & that clown Vettel wiped him out at least 4times.
Love your content Ciaron. The Iceman really was something else.
Thanks for this high quality tribute for my childhood hero
2003, 2005, 2007, 2008.
If stroll was smart enough we wouldve put kimi and alonso in the AMR this yr. F1 fans would go nuts just to see that
Kimi was the name I remember most growing up
When I first got into F1, I thought everyone glazing V10s was annoying, and I called them overrated, watching old f1 now, I see why everyone loves V10s. The sound, and power, and speed. It’s absolutely incredible
I just realized how much the sound of the V12 and V10 engines played into falling in love with the sport. I now watch Indycar over F1, because both have dull engines, but at least Indycar has proper racing like F1 used to back when Kimi was at Mclaren.
amazing video again, you cant make enough of these
Another Great Finnish 🇫🇮 Racing Driver Keke Roseberg & Ari Vatanen if you Where at Silverstone in 1985 and saw Keke In Qualifying you would have been stunned at his 160 +mph lap record plenty of highlights in Rosbergs career if you where at Pikes Peak to see Ari going up the Mountain you would stunned again can’t wait for the next
Golden years 😍
Those cars were so much better than present
Splendid driving !
It's as simple as that, Splendid !
Also happy 1000th view.
Great job man
Name one driver who encountered Kimi on track inside a McLaren Mercedes and didn't shit his pants...
Had Ferrari focused on him in 2018 he would have won over Lewis by a mile
He would have done better than Vettel would have done. That's for sure. Vettel had all the updates earlier too.
@@ciaronsmith4995 thats just delusion. Vettel was simply better. Nobody was telling kimi to perform subpar
@@archiesutherland6127 No it's empirical analysis. Kimi had far more bad luck (4 DNFs) without which he easily beats Vettel. Kimi at his peak is far superior to anything Vettel could dream of.
@@ciaronsmith4995 ,he wasn't ever at the same pace as vettel at Ferrari
@@archiesutherland6127 Except when he outqualified Vettel in 2016 at 37 years old and was faster in the races in 2018 at 40 years old. How fast was Vettel at 37? Oh wait.
James Allen: "Raikkonen having a look at Barrichello. Can he make it stick?"
Martin Brundle: "Can he make it *STOP*!?"
Thanks for the compilation, great video. Kimi, what an amazing driver. Such a pity that during his peak he had to share grid first with two of the GOATs. He was definitely fast between 2003-2006, but it was almost impossible to shine near Schumi and Nando. At least he could harvest a title in one of the weirdest seasons ever, and he delivered well during his first journey in Ferrari. That duo Massa-Kimi was probably the last one were the Scuderia didn't have clear 1-2 roles, and they both were very close to each other... good times. Thanks again for compiling this, I really miss the 2000s F1
Kimi is one of the GOATS and was arguably higher rated than Alonso in that era - or at the very least equal as Martin Brundle states at the beginning of the video. Kimi only lost 2003 and 2005 because his car was unreliable, and Kimi was higher paid than Alonso by the time MSC retired for a reason. Kimi shined as much as anyone to be honest - MSC literally retired because he didn't want to face Kimi in the same team
In 2003 Kimi was definitely higher rated than Alonso, cuz Alonso had only one year in Minardi and one year as a test driver. But after 2004 and 2005 I think there’s not a lot of discussion, as Alonso was definitely the most talented driver on the grid, retiring Schumi and getting two WC without driving the fastest car in any of them. Salary? Yeah, Renault was one of the teams with the lowest payrates. But well, when Nando went to McLaren and later on to Ferrari he was the top paid driver of the grid and the most demanded driver.
I think we all should remember that Alonso retired (and beat F2F) Schumi after 5 championships in a row, and beat peak Kimi while he was driving one of the fastest cars (true, a bit unreliable) of the last 2 decades. Alonso is the most talented driver by far since the 2000s.
@@rafamartinez6706 Brundle was speaking at the end of 2004 in the video above. In 2004 Kimi was easily higher rated than Alonso, and in 2005 Kimi won the prestigious International Driver of the Year award - not Alonso. Did you actually watch F1 outside of Spanish media those years? It sounds like you're Spanish or something. Alonso was beaten by Trulli in 2004 (before Jarno left Renault 3 races before the end), so any magazine at the time was saying his stock was lowered. Kimi was considered the absolute fastest in F1 even after Alonso won 2005. Kimi was also more popular so I would disagree - Kimi was shining even more brightly in many ways. Only because his car exploded all the time did he not win 2003 and 2005. Simple really.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Within the paddock Kimi was not rated higher than Alonso after 2004, Kimi's season was quite disappointing... after 2003 he was, his performance was superb. After 2005 there's no discussion, every single squad was trying to seduce Fernando, and he could sign a blank check almost anywhere. Autosport awards... let me laugh, perhaps you don't know but there are so many politics in there. Vettel won it in 2010-2012, Juan Pablo in 2003...
Trulli beating Alonso? You have to be kidding.
Kimi lost championships because of reliability? Well, he had the fastest car by far, he couldn't harvest enough points when his car was able to finish races. Too many mistakes, Nurburgring 2005 for example.
There's only one way to evaluate drivers H2H, and that's when they share the same machine. It was clear for F1 pundits and experts that Alonso had more talent than Kimi, but In 2014 alonso wrote down a full stop.
P.S. Not only I watched F1 outside of Spanish media, between 1999 and 2006 I was working in one of the F1 garages ;)
@@rafamartinez6706 Wrong. Kimi was considered far superior by the end of 2004 he was outperfoming his car so much while Alonso was spinnng out at Monza etc. Kimi was the best driver in Formula 1 alongside MSC - just listen to Brundle in the beginning of the video you're commenting on! He is talking at the end of 2004! For goodness sakes. Alonso was struggling with Trulli, while Kimi obliterated his teammate despite having 8 DNFS that season. Kimi didn't have a poor season at all - the car just kept blowing up. Get real, son. Everyone knew how good Kimi was.
The 2004 McLaren (MP4-19(18 :D)) is an absolute thing of beauty.
To be 8 years old in 99
That’s me
My first race i watched was 2003 hockenheim on the Television and he had that mega start and got taken out and when he got out of the car he was so pissed and from then on he was my favourite driver
Since i lvd him ❤
I'm sad i wasn't of age in his prime years
That's why these videos exist. Enjoy.
@@ciaronsmith4995 you are the man 🙌
Great video Ciaron! Do you think you may be able to do such a video for Schumi too?
I think I am going to be wildly controversial now...
I think the racing that we have got now (2022) is just much better than the one in the 00s. I am not saying today's drivers have better racecraft than Kimi at all, as shown in the video Kimi's racecraft was amazing, he really mastered those cars and he knew both how to be blistering quick but also a superb racer.
I am just saying that overall the racing is now better because of both the cars and the overall driving.
My explanation: a lot of people hate the DRS and I agree that sometimes it is just too powerful and makes overtaking too easy, but when it is calibrated right, it just allows the cars to be very close around the lap and invites overtaking and wheel to wheel battles.
At the same time a lot of people complain about the width of today's cars, and even though it is true that on some tracks this makes overtaking basically impossible (Monaco is the prime example), I feel like in the majority of the tracks they are actually the "right size" to enable good racers to defend their positions. The 00s cars actually look too tiny to allow a good driver to defend against a fast car coming up behind.
Again, I am aware this may be seen as controversial, but just look back at some of the racing we had this year: the battle for the lead between Charles and Max in Bahrein lasted 3 laps and was just thrilling, with some amazing racing (mostly on Charles part I have to say), then Saudi was incredible, with the leaders following each other in a super high speed track at less than 1second with very similarly paced cars. Some of the action we had in USA was great (Charles on Checo, Seb on Kevin!), we had the five cars battle in Austria, Silverstone was just a stunner with the three best teams battling it out lap after lap and a series of overtakes in basically every part of the track, probably the best laps of racing I have ever seen. In Brasil (especially in the sprint) we also had thrilling racing with defending and mental games between George and Max, Spain was the same, France had amazing action between Carlos and Checo and I could go on.
I feel like most of the overtakes in the 00s were either due to pitstops or due to one car being MUCH faster than the one in front, and only a very special driver like Kimi could pull something really special out of the bag at times, while today we have many more exciting battles because drivers attack and defend hard and the battles can go on for laps, even between the leaders.
Yes I agree to an extent but the overtakes meant more back then. And I don't think seasons are more exciting now than back then. We had 3 boring seasons - 2001, 2002 and 2004, in that era. We've had much more in this era in my view.
@@ciaronsmith4995 2005 and 2006 were also boring, as Alonso was too dominant and no driver on the grid could challenge him...
@@rafamartinez6706 Alonso got lucky in 2005 - Kimi was the faster driver but his car kept breaking down in FP sessions (10 place penalty) or in the race. It wasn't boring but it was strange, because the best driver definitely didn't win the title in my view in 2005. In 2006, Kimi wasn't even in a competitive car so it's hard to say. Alonso was better than MSC in 2006, but would he have beaten Kimi in equal speed/equal reliability cars in 2006 ? Doubtful.
@@rafamartinez6706 2005 can be boring to some, but 2006 was absolutely nowhere near boring just go and watch those full race highlights and seasons and not those insta/youtube shorts because schumacher would have become a 8 time world champion that year.....
Becose Kimi is a row Driver, a true Relly Driver..!
No Electronic, No DRS, NRS, no Bullshit...!
At that Era/Tima (Mclaren Mercedes) he was the quckest Driver without a doubt.
I am (was at that time Schumacher Fan) but Kimi was unbelivabel.., quick as Hell.
This is a Fact.
At that particularry Time he dosn't had an "inough durable" material/car for his Speed/Quickness.
The quikcest in the Field..!
Fact and Point ...!
Raikkonen was hakkinens protege pure talent ready 2 attack
At his prime the fastest man on the planet!
Off topic but what was the thing that made Gilles Villenueve to be one of the fastest racing drivers ever?
Thats 2 secs faster than any lap weve seen in the race. Wow
Brundle: why do you have to take that risk?
What?? It was just one lap you numpty. That was an L comment from MB
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Is that John Watson commentating at 9:16? I did not know he had done f1 commentary
Yup
He and Ben Edwards were a great duo.
Kimi ZEEEEEEE raikko Raikkonen
I need see to the legendary 2005 season in one video
Just watch the races and understand why Kimi is starting so far back in certain races (grid penalties).
who’s better in pace…lewis or kimi? never watched kimi’s prime live so want to learn more
Outright maximum pace at their best I would say Kimi. But Lewis beats him by a mile for consistency.
Raikkonen's the quickest since Senna in my view. So that should be clear.
@@stampas2959 Except Lewis couldn't beat Kimi when Lewis had a quicker car in 2012, 2013, so I disagree. Peak for peak, Kimi is just as consistent, if not more so.
It pains me seeing this. Honestly ferrari fucked about with him. And ironically he won his only title with them. When i hear all this bs about how he got bored and wanted to leave f1 to do other things i know thats nonsense. All the man wanted was a racing winning car (which he fully merited) and a team that could back him. He wouldve never taken two years out like he did if it wasnt for the way ferrari treated him. Mclaren were complete mugs for hiring jenson button over kimi. One of the most flukish world champions ive ever seen. A man that won races with a double diffuser and then dropped back down to where he belonged when everyone else did the same thing. Wouldve absolutely loved it if he returned there But 14-17 was very painful to watch. It wasnt who he was. Especially after two great years with lotus where he was almost back to his very best
Im still adamant that ferrari shouldve backed kimi for the title and made seb their no.2 but that was never gonna happen in his last year.
And 2019 was a real underrated season of kimi with alfa romeo. He had some seriously underrated performances even in qualifying for a 40 yr old. Just showed that he always had pace with right setup and not being "past it" or lacking motivation and committment. Load of rubbish that
Thanks for the comment - I agree with you on most things. First, about Ferrari - they never understood how to make the car suit Kimi's driving style which was the main issue during his time there as Kimi has said. But I think McLaren wanted Kimi in 2009 and 2013 - they gave him contract offers in both years to drive in 2010 and 2014.. The issue in 2009 was that McLaren were going to pay Kimi less than what Kimi would have earned by sitting out. So Kimi declined - this is the official story. From what I understand Kimi was first choice from the start (Kovalainen said in an interview that McLaren's preference was 1. Kimi 2. Jenson 3. Himself). But I've always said I am not a Ferrari fan. They simultaneously helped Kimi get a title, but also demolished his legacy in certain moments. Obviously he's a legend, but in many ways despite Ferrari, not because of them.
@@ciaronsmith4995 facts ferrari did destroy kimis legacy. I felt embarassed when he won his last gp in usa 2018 when most of us were happy/relieved. When crofty mentioned it was his first win in 113 races it cringed me out. A driver that good should not be going that long without a race win.
Thanks for explaining the mclaren situation btw. Maybe i went in hard on them a bit irrationally haha. I was just praying to see kimi back to his best again. I miss his prime so badly.
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Don't cut the clips mate, you ruin them. The slide at turn 2 at China start in 2006 has a great save, and right after defending VS Montoya in the pit exit at Brazil he gets passed in turn 4. Show the whole side by side bits.
Why would I show Montoya passing Kimi in a racecraft of Kimi compilation? This is highlighting Kimi's racecraft - not Montoya's. If I do a JPM one, I would show that pass (which was obviously very good) by JPM.
@@ciaronsmith4995 because they went side by side through the pit exit and then turn 4 always giving each other room. It says "racecraft". Not overtakes. Being passed after a whole sector of fighting side by side always knowing where the rival is is also racecraft
@@dyr_glpsn4209 I don't think Kimi getting caught off guard in Brazil is a good display of racecraft. Kimi was too cautious on exit simply put. Montoya is one of the best driver around Interlagos ever. That was JPM's circuit. Nobody really beat him there on merit ever in F1. Either he crashed or he won that race.
5:58 which race is this?
2004 Belgian GP
@@ciaronsmith4995 Thank you
5:30 what? He overtook 3 in 1 corner?
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Dude I’ve been watching your channel closely in recent weeks, and it’s really good, and some of your opinions are valid and correct. However I must state, your channel is excessively biased in favour of Raikkonen, and as such this questions your credibility and legitimacy. My view is that the correct approach is to follow the evidence, and go where the evidence goes. Any other way is an error. I’ve watched F1 as a mega fan since 1993 and have observed the careers of many of the great drivers during this time. There is no doubt that Raikkonen was very good in terms of raw natural talent, but he was definitely not better than Alonso and Hamilton.
It's not bias it's just my opinion based on empirical evidence. At his peak? Raikkonen was definitely faster than both Hamilton and Alonso in my view. Definitely faster than Alonso in the tyre war - that's not even controversial. There is no bias. I present facts and numerous quotes to support my views (many public F1 figures say the same). Just scroll though the channel. Nothing is done through emotion all through analysis. Cheers. I live in Woking (where McLaren are). Most engineers here I 've met don't disagree with me. Most people make the mistake of using a season like 2008 or 2014/2015 to blanket a 20 year career. Unfortunately, that's not a valid way to judge the pure talent or peak ability of a driver. Cheers - if my life was on the line, I am picking a tyre war Kimi over any version of Lewis or Alonso.
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Kimi is the worst F1 world champion of the 21st century
Button is and it’s not even close. Then Rosberg, Max, Lewis, Seb, Alonso, Kimi, Schumi. In that order
@@fiftyin07 Max, Alonso, Schumacher, Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg, Button, Raikkonen
@@nenuphar2104 Max and Alonso over Schumi? Delusional much?
@@fiftyin07 both were better in the 21st century. Schumacher was at his best in the 90s
I would say most of Schumi's prime was in the 90's - but not all of it obviously. 2000 was his greatest season alongside 1997, the 2000 McLaren was easily the best car that year. Regarding Kimi, you're simply wrong. He's arguably the fastest WDC of the 21st century and probably in the top 2 considering his peak. It's either Schumi or Kimi at #1 for me in terms of pure raw ability this century. Button and Rosberg are tiers below a peak Kimi. You've sort of exposed your knowledge (or lack therof) when you make blanket statements like that.
Let's all remember that Iceman has a championship because McLaren boycotted Alonso.
Not really. Kimi won more races than Alonso despite Kimi having more DNFs. Alonso only won 2005 becasue Kimi's car broke down, that's for sure.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Well, Kimi had a rocket in 2005, with a standard car he would have ended 30-40 points behind Alonso. He made many mistakes, such as Nurburgring were he destroyed his tyres. He had the best car and was in his absolute peak, if he didn't win is because he didn't compete well and because Alonso, with a car 5 tenths slower, simply overperformed.
@@rafamartinez6706 And Alonso didn't make mistakes? Alonso made an even bigger mistake at Nurburgring at the hairpin and got lucky; in Canada he crashed by himself and lost his front wing in Hungary. Kimi was generally flawess and just unlucky. Even when the car wasn't the fastest, like in Japan, he still won. In Japan and China Renault turned up their engine and it was still 1-1.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Even a bigger mistake in Nurburgring? You gotta be kidding. Alonso got hit hardly by Ralf in turn 1 and still managed to recover and showed a great pace in a circuit where the McLaren were clearly faster. He only made a tiny mistake in the hairpin when the race was basically settled. Raikkonen had a clumpsy drive over the 59 laps, he went wide many times and even lost the lead to Heidfeld in lap 30 cuz he left the track! The McLaren was clearly faster and still Kimi's tyre management was poor, we wasted the tyres, locked many many times (even lapping Villeneuve he locked hardly!), didn't manage the gap and didn't take care of the car, and the heavy vibrations that he provocked eventually ruined his race. Even without the crash Alonso was passing him and winning. That race actually showed one of the weakest points of Kimi, in general he had a poor car management during the race and he was not as good and smart as Fernando or Michael dosing the car and controlling and securing races. He only knew how to go 100% every lap.
In Canada Alonso was very unlucky, he just touched the wall as many cars do in Canada every race weekend, but unfortunately his suspension was gone. Raikkonen was also lucky that Montoya messed it up during the SC and that McLaren favoured him letting him pit first. Juan Pablo was ahead the whole weekend...
In Hungary, you gotta be kidding again... Alonso lost the wing thanks to the clumpsy drive of Ralf that closed the door heavily in turn 1. It was unfortunate that he lost the wing driving through the kerb precisely in the circuit where overtaking is a huge challenge. Kimi was again lucky that Juan Pablo's car had another reliability issue when he was ahead with good odds to take the victory.
Looks like you didn't watch f1 in 2005...
@@rafamartinez6706 You forgot Alonso ran off the circuit at the Dunlop Curve in the middle of the race - the biggest error by any driver all race. Do you even watch Formula 1? Kimi was unlucky. A flat spot should never cause the suspension to fail the way it did. Alonso made more errors that season than Kimi did in the races - that's for sure. With reliable equal to Renault, Kimi dominates that championship beyond words. Not to mention a race was cancelled which further helped Alonso. Imagine if Trulli was in that Renault!
In his first 3 seasons with McLaren, he won two races. In his second stint with Ferrari.....5 seasons........he won one race. That`s not legendary racecraft. Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton, and Verstappen.........THAT`S......Legendary Racecraft !!!!!!! ( And to all the Räikkönen fans, no need to comment ) !!!!!!!
Because his car was constantly breaking down at McLaren - his second stint at Ferrari is not relevant to the video. He nearly won the title in a 1 year old car in 2003 and won a race in a 2004 McLaren which nobody on the planet could have done. Between 2002-2004, he had 20 DNFS from car failures. Research before you comment. His performance peak in that period was higher than Vettel could ever dream of and higher than Lewis' in my view too. Had his car been reliable, he easily wins the 2003 and 2005 world titles. Easily the world's fastest driver as everyone knew at the time.
his car broke down probably more than anyone in F1's historoy. Don't come on here commenting when you don't have a clue what your talking about and then have the audacity to tell people that have watched F1 for 40years including every race since 2001, not to comment.Clown