So many of us, the lovers of this complex symphony, seem to always return to this Mravinsky's interpretation conducting the very Russian Leningrad Philharmonic Orchestra. And this stereo recording makes it all sound so captivatingly pure and inviting.
Thank you for publishing. I've listened to the recording of Barbirolli, a superb conductor of the old times, but his interpretation was really too "English" -- too neat, too gentle, too careful, too orderly. And this interpretation is much more appropriate for a piece of Russian music.
I was privileged to grow up in Leningrad ( hate that name) St Petersburg and attend The Great Philharmonic Hall since I was10. Mravinsky was the Chief conductor and musical director all those years, so I went through all Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, Brahms, Shostakovich, Prokofiev, etc with him conducting. Unfortunately at the end of his career, the only thing that was still the same- his despotic style with the orchestra, his total control over it. But his artistic spirit, he was famous for, dried out. The musicians, as the result, became dispirited, indifferent. The usual repertoire was stale. They breathed a sigh of relief only with young Temirkanov taking over in the beginning of 70s.
Oh there is a difference, most especially in the tempi. Russians conduct faster. Karajan labors through with usually lugrubrious pacing. German music, on the other hand, needs space and time. Listen to Strauss' Im Abendrot. Masur takes 10 minutes; most conductors do it much faster, 6 minutes for example. Masur does the piece justice.
I do have this on CD (just listened to it) but my original LP and the one which introduced me was Václav Talich with the Czech Philharmonic Orchestra - Supraphon, 1963.
Thankyou! Gorgeous. Didn't this come out in a 4 album set (which I own) on DG, with a color booklet, and a printed piece from Julius Bloom? Diff album cover (Russian Army on horseback) than this shown--but sounds just like it?
@@philipkuttner7945 Ashkenazy conducting the Philharmonia is really good as well. For the 5th, I recommend Abbado conducting the Chicago. Of course, i couldn't dispute anyone who says that Mravinsky is in a class by himself, as is the Lengingrad Phil.
31:03 New Hope Throne Room End title similar motif, but mostly very much like Indiana Jones main theme. Williams did the right thing copying Tchaikovsky so shamelessly. That's the only way to write epic music for epic films.
The last three months of 1893 saw this premier in October and Dvorak's ninth symphony premier in December. There hasn't been a highpoint in music anywhere remotely near that since. Mahler, Sibelius, Neilsen--their symphonies sound overblown and pretentious by comparison. Stravinsky is relatively cold. Vaughan Williams sentimental. The twentieth century was the beginning of a new barbarism, and it shows in music in a special way. Don't hate the messenger.
Sibelius overblown and pretentious? Really? Why do you talk about things you're clueless about? Sibelius' mastery over orchestration and form is superior to that of Tchaikovsky, at least in orchestral music. Just check out the opening bars of his 4th symphony. He manages to create that dark atmosphere, much like Tchaikovsky does in this symphony, but to even more effect and with even simpler orchestration. Similarly, while most composers used reduced orchestration in violin concertos, Sibelius used the entire orchestra, and yet, the solo violin and the orchestra do not overwhelm each other throughout the duration they play simultaneously. His 7th symphony manages to go through all that a symphony is stereotypically thought to express, but does it in 22 mins and in a sui generis single movement. So, what you said is bullshit. In fact, in front of Sibelius, it is Tchaikovsky who is more likely to look overblown.
I think this is more of an opinion being passed off as an objective fact, what you're saying here, Dvorak is criminally underrated, I will grant you, but just because 20th century composers aren't to your taste, I don't think one can objectively rule out all 20th century music as barbarism. Also consider Vaughan Williams' 4th and Antarctic symphony if you want something less sentimental, I personally like Vaughan Williams because of how he captures the spirit of English music in his work. You are of course entitled to your opinions, but I wouldn't simply write off the 20th century as pretentious, because you close off a large selection of very interesting music, forgive me if I interpreted your comment incorrectly. I repeat, I merely don't think it can be said objectively that the 20th century's music was barbarous, so should be presented as opinion; also, I wouldn't want anyone to miss out on a wealth of incredibly diverse music.
Barbarism-an idea, act, or expression that in form or use offends against contemporary standards of good taste or acceptability. Those over blown composers were breaking new ground artistically and making art that reflects the real life experiences of the time. IMO
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Wonderful
The way this symphony ends with such an adagio... pure genius. Few like this.
greatest recording ever of this piece ....
So many of us, the lovers of this complex symphony, seem to always return to this Mravinsky's interpretation conducting the very Russian Leningrad Philharmonic Orchestra. And this stereo recording makes it all sound so captivatingly pure and inviting.
These Mravinsky recordings are *ABSOLUTELY B O N K E R S*
므라빈스키 연주 최고 감사합니다
Maravilha, a gente quase consegue pegar com as mãos o sentimento que ele nos oferece sobre a vida.
Still the best performance ever.
5 is best too
1 ЧАСТЬ
00:05 - вступление
1:50 - тГП
4:25 - тПП
разработка:
9:23 - 1 раздел (fugato)
10:24 - 2 раздел (Со святыми упокой)
11:11 - 3 раздел (предыкт, возврат тГП)
11:37 - реприза
12:06 - эпизод-кульминация
16:19 - кода
2 ЧАСТЬ
17:33 - основной раздел
19:55 - средний раздел
3 ЧАСТЬ
25:37 - тГП
27:18 - тПП
31:03 - тПП в репризе
4 ЧАСТЬ
33:54 - тГП
36:14 - тПП
41:50 - тПП в коде
Wonderful!
17:34
25:35
33:54
Gira gira si torna sempre qui a Mravinsky e la sua orchestra. Qui si può solo ascoltare e tacere!
До мурашек! Соединение двух человечев!!! Такое проникновение.. Благодарю!
merveilleuse. interprtation
太好听了
감사합니다
гениальная recordar МУЗЫКА гениальный la МРАВИНСКИЙ гениальный cuarentena ОРКЕСТР!!!!!!!!
Thank you for publishing. I've listened to the recording of Barbirolli, a superb conductor of the old times, but his interpretation was really too "English" -- too neat, too gentle, too careful, too orderly. And this interpretation is much more appropriate for a piece of Russian music.
Thanks cgoroo..for this Complete version conducted by Legendary Y.Mravinsky 👍
I was privileged to grow up in Leningrad ( hate that name) St Petersburg and attend The Great Philharmonic Hall since I was10. Mravinsky was the Chief conductor and musical director all those years, so I went through all Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, Brahms, Shostakovich, Prokofiev, etc with him conducting. Unfortunately at the end of his career, the only thing that was still the same- his despotic style with the orchestra, his total control over it. But his artistic spirit, he was famous for, dried out. The musicians, as the result, became dispirited, indifferent. The usual repertoire was stale. They breathed a sigh of relief only with young Temirkanov taking over in the beginning of 70s.
Oh there is a difference, most especially in the tempi. Russians conduct faster. Karajan labors through with usually lugrubrious pacing. German music, on the other hand, needs space and time. Listen to Strauss' Im Abendrot. Masur takes 10 minutes; most conductors do it much faster, 6 minutes for example. Masur does the piece justice.
Последние концерты Мрачинского были гениальны. 8-я Шостаковича, Неоконченая Шуберта. Фрпнческа, Вагнер.
Fantastic thaicovisk pura emotion emotion
The Best Tchaikovsky Sym. 6. no doubt.
I do have this on CD (just listened to it) but my original LP and the one which introduced me was Václav Talich with the Czech Philharmonic Orchestra - Supraphon, 1963.
Furtwängler also evokes some.. special emotions
BEST VERSION OF
TCHAIKOVSKY’S
“PATHETIQUE” SYMPHONY
CONDUCTED BY MRAVINSKY
FOREVER CLASSIC!
Absolutely brilliant
This symphony is gorgeous...
If only it wasn't written as a way to express his romantic love of his nephew who was significantly younger than him!
Лучшее исполнение патетической
гениальная МУЗЫКА гениальный МРАВИНСКИЙ гениальный ОРКЕСТР!!!!!!!!
This is a Magnificent Recording of Tchaikovskys Symphony nos,4,5,and 6th,His last Symphony in 1893🎼🎼💥💥🎶🥰🌍Beautiful to Listen to ❤
La version de référence absolue pour la 6ème de Tchaikovsky, merci Marvinsky et encore plus à Tchaikovsky pour ce chef d'œuvre immortel
Thankyou! Gorgeous. Didn't this come out in a 4 album set (which I own) on DG, with a color booklet, and a printed piece from Julius Bloom? Diff album cover (Russian Army on horseback) than this shown--but sounds just like it?
40:36 отчаянный вопль: Го-осподи, помилуй!
Wasn't this recorded in London?
Best Tchaik 6 no question. Rostropovich is a good 2nd though, and Ormandy's is quite good too.
You might like Toscanini’s too.
@@philipkuttner7945 Ashkenazy conducting the Philharmonia is really good as well. For the 5th, I recommend Abbado conducting the Chicago. Of course, i couldn't dispute anyone who says that Mravinsky is in a class by himself, as is the Lengingrad Phil.
@@Ageless-yh7gv I was lucky enough to hear Ashkenazy play the piano. One of the best. They called him "the little giant," as he was quite short.
Still prefer Furtwangler's. Much more explosive and dark.
@@clee5653 Really? I'm listening to Mravinsky now, I don't think you can get darker than this!
6:52
25:38
31:03 New Hope Throne Room End title similar motif, but mostly very much like Indiana Jones main theme. Williams did the right thing copying Tchaikovsky so shamelessly. That's the only way to write epic music for epic films.
最初の出だしから、他の指揮者の演奏とは違う。そのロシアの土地柄、その土の衆生…。当に、ロシアの血統が可能とした、本物のチャイコフスキーと感じらた…。一方カラヤンは、演奏の精度はいいが、ちょっと淡白に聞こえなくない。只。カラヤンとウィーンフィルの1984年盤は、特に終楽しょうが深い淵に落ちるようなさまは、聴きもの。しかし、より一層。曲全体を通せぱ、聴きごたえがあるのは、ムラヴィンスキーの方。本物と感じがする…。
小猫在我肚子里很好吃
à 9'50 les cors sont absents!!!!!!!
The last three months of 1893 saw this premier in October and Dvorak's ninth symphony premier in December. There hasn't been a highpoint in music anywhere remotely near that since. Mahler, Sibelius, Neilsen--their symphonies sound overblown and pretentious by comparison. Stravinsky is relatively cold. Vaughan Williams sentimental. The twentieth century was the beginning of a new barbarism, and it shows in music in a special way. Don't hate the messenger.
Sibelius overblown and pretentious? Really? Why do you talk about things you're clueless about?
Sibelius' mastery over orchestration and form is superior to that of Tchaikovsky, at least in orchestral music. Just check out the opening bars of his 4th symphony. He manages to create that dark atmosphere, much like Tchaikovsky does in this symphony, but to even more effect and with even simpler orchestration. Similarly, while most composers used reduced orchestration in violin concertos, Sibelius used the entire orchestra, and yet, the solo violin and the orchestra do not overwhelm each other throughout the duration they play simultaneously. His 7th symphony manages to go through all that a symphony is stereotypically thought to express, but does it in 22 mins and in a sui generis single movement. So, what you said is bullshit. In fact, in front of Sibelius, it is Tchaikovsky who is more likely to look overblown.
Well... Debussy, Ravel, Roussel, Bartok, Stravinsky, Berg, Britten, Dutilleux...
I think this is more of an opinion being passed off as an objective fact, what you're saying here, Dvorak is criminally underrated, I will grant you, but just because 20th century composers aren't to your taste, I don't think one can objectively rule out all 20th century music as barbarism. Also consider Vaughan Williams' 4th and Antarctic symphony if you want something less sentimental, I personally like Vaughan Williams because of how he captures the spirit of English music in his work. You are of course entitled to your opinions, but I wouldn't simply write off the 20th century as pretentious, because you close off a large selection of very interesting music, forgive me if I interpreted your comment incorrectly. I repeat, I merely don't think it can be said objectively that the 20th century's music was barbarous, so should be presented as opinion; also, I wouldn't want anyone to miss out on a wealth of incredibly diverse music.
Barbarism-an idea, act, or expression that in form or use offends against contemporary standards of good taste or acceptability. Those over blown composers were breaking new ground artistically and making art that reflects the real life experiences of the time. IMO
@@wardhilgers3607 in a way he's right, the tastes of many classical music concertgoers became way more anachronistic as composers got more creative!