@@Aftokraftor I was close, I've been playing this minus Nova/kilmonger, sub Nico/iron man. Been running it since Gwen released. I've never been a fan surfer decks prior to this.
@@brandonstreet2351 I like the nico/iron man lineup too ive also ran that before but ive been seeing more zoo/thena type stuff so the killmonger has been pretty clutch for me also on those times where I do run into the ongoing decks with antman and nebula and stuff this makes them lose their minds
Sunday at 12PM eastern time. I will be donating bubs at the diner, threw the ice cream 🍦 match making. If anyone would like to join me. Hopefully we can get a few us giving away at that time so we can help everyone get the card.
I saw this a lot on my way to infinite but sandman move seem to be pretty good at holding it off, because it is so often off curve for turns 1,2,4 with a turn 5 sera. When they can drop only a surfer or killmonger on t6, you can probably calculate their points pretty accurately and play or retreat accordingly.
Just run both Hope and Sera (and cut Copy Cat?)? They are awkward together but you don't usually empty your hand with this deck and can just not play Hope if you have Sera in hand. I know this is probably just my bias for deck consistency speaking. Anyway thank you for helping me get better at the game and I've noticed A LOT more Surfer on the ladder tonight.
I personally don’t think Gwen carries the deck but she’s certainly a strong edition. If you don’t have her just run another 3 cost like juggernaut or other tech card more applicable to your personal meta.
My biggest problem with Hope in Surfer is that there are too many competing cards that want to be played on 3. Hope, Cass Nova and Brood (if you forged and/or have Abs) all want to be played on 3.
I was playing Surfer with Hope and it felt like if I wasn't abusing the extra energy I wasn't popping off. A lot of people say Sera is bad in Surfer but the extra energy going into 6 is so clutch in this iteration while it felt like Hope had too many hoops to jump through. Maybe if you have Makari you can get away with no Sera but I like what I'm seeing here.
Been running the Sera and Hope versions for a few weeks and a few days ago settled on the Sera version myself. Love Hope a ton, but +1 energy is very rarely mattering on every turn but the last.
@@Mikami253 yea but if you compare sera on 5 to hope on 3 (or on 4 with nova), hope allows you to play 2 extra 3 costs per game where sera only allows one. (Hope herself is a 3 drop that’s where the extra comes from)
How much Arishem are people seeing right now? Ive barely seen him at all since Cass came along, and almost never now that Doc, Leech, and Loki were changed.
I know that I am answering 8 days late but today I played against 5 Arishem players at raw in conquest. He is regaining popularity with new Loki buff, ghey now don't care about Cassandra at all...
This is the 2nd time ive built a deck that you card for card play yourself, glad to know I was on the right track
@@Aftokraftor I was close, I've been playing this minus Nova/kilmonger, sub Nico/iron man. Been running it since Gwen released. I've never been a fan surfer decks prior to this.
@@brandonstreet2351 I like the nico/iron man lineup too ive also ran that before but ive been seeing more zoo/thena type stuff so the killmonger has been pretty clutch for me
also on those times where I do run into the ongoing decks with antman and nebula and stuff this makes them lose their minds
Notice how quietly Copycat and Cassandra are in every deck now. This game is something else
You must have really been rubbing those brain cells together to think to post this on a silver surfer video.
@@daveb305 I know SD puts out new cards, and they are good so everyone buys them, and uses them. What's up with that?🙄
this deck is EXTREMELY powerful right now
I have been playing this deck the entire season it’s probably my favorite. Instead of copycat i use red guardian though :)
missing seb shaw and nocturne :(
Sunday at 12PM eastern time. I will be donating bubs at the diner, threw the ice cream 🍦 match making. If anyone would like to join me. Hopefully we can get a few us giving away at that time so we can help everyone get the card.
im not in from eastern time ;( are you guys in daylight saving time rn? 12pm is 1pm in utc -3 right..?
I saw this a lot on my way to infinite but sandman move seem to be pretty good at holding it off, because it is so often off curve for turns 1,2,4 with a turn 5 sera. When they can drop only a surfer or killmonger on t6, you can probably calculate their points pretty accurately and play or retreat accordingly.
Win the last one is priceless ♥
I hate that I am able to build this deck
Turn to the Dark Side. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. The Dark Side is your home. Welcome. Enjoy the cookies.
*nomMmrrf* the cookies *mrfnom* are the best
Weird flex, but ok.
This is not the dark side. This is the silverside
Why
I do not have Sebastian Shaw what’s should I replace him with ?
Love surfer he’s in my top 3 archetypes and I play him pretty often
1.beta ray bill
2.surfer
3.loki
Who can I replace nocturne with?
What is this mans music list? I've been trying to find it but can't
i use streambeats
Just run both Hope and Sera (and cut Copy Cat?)? They are awkward together but you don't usually empty your hand with this deck and can just not play Hope if you have Sera in hand. I know this is probably just my bias for deck consistency speaking.
Anyway thank you for helping me get better at the game and I've noticed A LOT more Surfer on the ladder tonight.
Any substitution for Gwen on or is there no point?
I personally don’t think Gwen carries the deck but she’s certainly a strong edition. If you don’t have her just run another 3 cost like juggernaut or other tech card more applicable to your personal meta.
I've been clapping the cheeks off this deck, please spread it more. Thank you.
same
😰 refrain from having sex with the marvel snap cards
*of
with what?
@@charlesberry7297 good boy cosmo
That wasn’t just a breakdown it was a GREATDOWN
Between Copycat and Nocturne, which one is an overall better card to buy?
Nocturne is generally considered better
I have both and I would say Nocturne easily.
Nocturne
Its good deck for infinity conquest??
My biggest problem with Hope in Surfer is that there are too many competing cards that want to be played on 3. Hope, Cass Nova and Brood (if you forged and/or have Abs) all want to be played on 3.
Dangit KM I've been farming people with surfer for a while, let it remain obscure!
Surfer has never been obscure dude
are the games any different at 9000 cubes vs 8000 cubes?
9000 elo is more inbred and you can actually bluff snap
@insane8987 that kinda makes it easier cuz you know what to expect. The random stuff at lol ELOs can drive u nuts
i dont have sebastian shaw, debating between makkari and glad for the spot but idk who
Daken honestly with his doubling affect can scale well and gives you a second one drop for killmonger payoffs
Was wondering why I was suddenly seeing a glut of Surfer decks. Now I know
Ain't that how it always goes?
This is the deck i used to hit infinite 3 weeks ago. I used red guardian instead of nocturne.
Oh cool, I’ll try that, was looking for a replacement
I play a lot of sandman now cuz of this deck lol.
I hate that I dont have shaw
I was playing Surfer with Hope and it felt like if I wasn't abusing the extra energy I wasn't popping off. A lot of people say Sera is bad in Surfer but the extra energy going into 6 is so clutch in this iteration while it felt like Hope had too many hoops to jump through. Maybe if you have Makari you can get away with no Sera but I like what I'm seeing here.
Been running the Sera and Hope versions for a few weeks and a few days ago settled on the Sera version myself. Love Hope a ton, but +1 energy is very rarely mattering on every turn but the last.
I honestly still use sera cz it's just simple I drop it turn five and profit.
substitute for gwenpool,nocturne and shaw
Is there any decent replacement for gwenpool?
Nothing does what she does, but you could go with standard surfer stuff like okoye or gladiator
Wong ?
Add hope summers maybe, it's like the best card left out
@@spofet I was thinking about that or phastos.
$10
Is the deck still good without copycat and nocturne?
My suspicion is, it’s fine but meh
Replacement for nocturne ? Am guessing jeff?
Nah, you want a good 3. Red Guardian? Gladiator?
Gladiator for more oomph
No gwenpool Seb Shaw noct. Or copycat Replaced with juggernaut, spiderman, storm and she hulk xD
Storm surfer is no joke. Especially if you juggernaut them off the storm lane
I’m still very confused and unsure as to why so many surfer decks are running sera over hope lately. On release hope was a straight upgrade to surfer
Imho Sera can be better because it allows you to play three 3-cost cards on t6 instead of 2 with 7 energy.
@@Mikami253 yea but if you compare sera on 5 to hope on 3 (or on 4 with nova), hope allows you to play 2 extra 3 costs per game where sera only allows one. (Hope herself is a 3 drop that’s where the extra comes from)
For me sera helped me more in terms of energy cheating then hope will ever do and that's why I'm sticking with it.
Missing GwenPool
i tried this deck at top 1000 (no nocturne instead i used storm), did not really enjoy it
Eating some hot cheetos bud?
How much Arishem are people seeing right now? Ive barely seen him at all since Cass came along, and almost never now that Doc, Leech, and Loki were changed.
I faced it once yesterday over the course of 14 games so I guess he kinda dropped in popularity.
I know that I am answering 8 days late but today I played against 5 Arishem players at raw in conquest. He is regaining popularity with new Loki buff, ghey now don't care about Cassandra at all...
My boy ya gotta stop eating popsicles before you record
The hazmat version is way better imo
Gameplay starts on turn 6
Time to make the anti deck...
This deck has been absolute ass for me. Might be a skill issue but I have to keep retreating
69th like! nice
Jeff nocturne copycat and even mystique, SD need to stop making a good blue people
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