Ares - An Annihilator Or A Nonstarter!? | 8 Cubes: A Marvel SNAP Show

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  • Опубликовано: 31 янв 2025

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  • @Zabougie
    @Zabougie 4 дня назад +50

    These boys spittin about the compensation. People want to complain about everything and then ruin it when Second Dinner does right by everyone.

    • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
      @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 4 дня назад +13

      Honestly since it wasn't directly something SD was responsible for I was expecting a title like "Survived the Blip" and thats it. The size of compensation we're getting both for US and non-US is just amazing. Not to mention they themselves recommended using a VPN in the meantime and are still giving it to those who did.
      Overall a huge W and I hope they can move publishers so we don't have something like this be possible in the future.

    • @markmurex6559
      @markmurex6559 4 дня назад +4

      Anyone who complains about the comp is a bad person.

    • @Arnies85
      @Arnies85 4 дня назад

      They did more then right for us, wasn’t even there fault

    • @GarrettR21
      @GarrettR21 4 дня назад

      ⁠​⁠@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 lmao just getting “Survived the Blip” is hilarious, that’s about what I expected too.

    • @Scott_Porter
      @Scott_Porter 4 дня назад

      Just waiting for every discard tool to get nerfed to side attack Bullseye….please don’t do it, SD.

  • @AvrgWes
    @AvrgWes 4 дня назад +12

    KM refusing to join the year 2025 is my favorite thing about 8 Cubes. 😂

  • @chrisblake4198
    @chrisblake4198 4 дня назад +17

    The other thing about the compensation is even cosmetics and Conquest fluff can spin into added progress. Say a couple of my variants go into albums and I use a tiny bit of gold to get one more card, which triggers another 2k tokens or credits.

  • @snowpoint720
    @snowpoint720 4 дня назад +8

    It's not just about 2-day down time. It's a welcome back bonus to entice people back into the game. It's about restoring confidence in the longevity of the game. SD came through and scored a big W. Hopefully, they get back in the app store fast enough to benefit from the publicity.

  • @jamesanderson3805
    @jamesanderson3805 4 дня назад +58

    Could you please tighten those close-ups? I can't tell what color your tongue is today.Thanks Champs 🏆🍡🎯👖♒🌠

  • @ZachCrews
    @ZachCrews 4 дня назад +7

    I looked for this on the way home, now I’m home, here it is

    • @FilmColossus
      @FilmColossus 4 дня назад +1

      How was being away from home?

    • @ZachCrews
      @ZachCrews 4 дня назад +1

      @ scary, the outside was there, and people

  • @Tonytaru
    @Tonytaru 4 дня назад +7

    Why is no one talking about the fact that Ares is On Reveal and not just text. That means he combos with wong, odin, grandmaster, Absorbing man, etc. He's a 4/12 in the surtur deck but when using him with a surtur package into another deck (arishem, wiccan, etc) he is also easily able to reach ridiculous levels of power by repeating that reveal.

    • @SubsSociety
      @SubsSociety 4 дня назад +7

      Because you need to win his minigame for it to be a 4/12. If you are playing it with a bunch of low power garbage (4/2, 4/4, 2/3, etc) chances are you won't be winning for his on reveal text.
      Surtur deck is a natural fit because it has a bunch of 10 power card so your chance of having at least 15ish power on the top 3 cards is way higher

    • @Rambrus0
      @Rambrus0 4 дня назад +1

      Because thats a weak ass combo

    • @Bloodartist
      @Bloodartist 4 дня назад +1

      @@SubsSociety but if you do win its minigame, you win all of them if you play to a wong lane or whatever. It compares to the same set of cards. And its very well positioned against scaling decks that's cards are weak while they are in th deck.
      I dont think its going to be an important card now when swarm is running all over the place, but I could see it being very relevant in the future once bullseye gets nerfed.

    • @araisikewai
      @araisikewai 4 дня назад +1

      For real though... play him in a mill deck, as there's no cards remaining in their deck at the end.
      Maximus + Ares could also be a good final turn play (though 18 power final turn doesn't sound like much these days).
      Edit: in case I didn't make myself clear enough: Ares in mill deck is not to be played on curve. Instead, he's to be played after you pull all their cards from their deck.

    • @Rambrus0
      @Rambrus0 4 дня назад

      @ Thats an interesting perspective but probably way too nieche to make it work. + What could you even cut? Mill is pretty tight in deckspace. Probably Shang could be cut but then you are defenseless if Gladiator backfires

  • @jasonv8772
    @jasonv8772 4 дня назад +6

    What you said about not wishing for iron patriot to be nerfed anymore and why is a perfect microcosm of how I have felt about 80% of nerfs.
    I understand you will argue that well these other nerfs took place after weeks of meta domination. This doesn’t change the fact that when everyone’s playing “the meta” it will make cards seem needing to be nerfed. It’s the same thing just on a larger scale. Patience is the best nerf stick

    • @Rambrus0
      @Rambrus0 4 дня назад +1

      not sure. Iron Patriot does not win you the game alone. Most card back in the day just fcked you. Like Blob, Loki, Red Hulk, etc. These cards eliminated everything else from the meta

    • @jasonv8772
      @jasonv8772 4 дня назад

      @ only because people were all playing the same stuff. And yes this is why I said 80%
      OG blob.. yeah , Elsa, leader- maybe ,dark Kawk with Arishim coming out.. ok. But Loki.. storm, pro X , and so many others. Some of these didn’t have to take the hits they took. With time new cards bring new strategies, we don’t have to immediately nuke something that excels on mass and is popular, sometimes it’s just because it’s popular.

    • @Rambrus0
      @Rambrus0 4 дня назад

      @ There is a difference between very popular and opressively broken. Doom 2099 was very popular but disnt have putstanding stats. On the other hand, the before mentioned cards had outrageously high winrate and cuberate. You dont just need to look at what they did, but why they did it.

    • @jasonv8772
      @jasonv8772 3 дня назад

      @ exactly! is also why I said 80%

  • @joshuabraddy6264
    @joshuabraddy6264 4 дня назад +1

    Great vid, guys. Love the content ❤

  • @stefann8291
    @stefann8291 4 дня назад +1

    Don’t know if KM necessarily reads this, but since I previously on his video stated that I would be somewhat frustrated if US got a compensation way surpassing the damage, I just wanted to clarify my stance (as if he cares…);
    I think the compensation for US is perfectly valid and I think they struck a somewhat good balance between US/non-US. The difference could perhaps have been somewhat more in US favor, but I think it was important that they showed their dedication to the game to everyone. You said it yourself, the worst damage wasn’t the downtime but that the whole game was susceptible to this kind of disruption.

  • @jobygoob
    @jobygoob 4 дня назад +1

    Greatness every week, thanks gentlemen.

  • @Bloodartist
    @Bloodartist 4 дня назад +1

    No, discard is not a combo deck. It doesnt rely on specific combo of cards. Its a synergy deck, that has one card that synergizes well with the rest of the deck. That card is swarm. Its synergies are just busted.

  • @aidenstumme
    @aidenstumme 4 дня назад

    Love the series, keep it up 👍. I’m probably gonna pull for Ares since Skaar is coming back in a few months

  • @luansomething380
    @luansomething380 4 дня назад

    Man, so good hearing lamby! Hope he comes back to streaming snap soon!

  • @D00M3R-SK8
    @D00M3R-SK8 4 дня назад

    I've been playing every flavour of Bullseye Discard imaginable. I will say that in Conquest, I really enjoyed the Helicarrier one. This was simply because it added some unpredictability to my games, and this often was also busted.
    So for example, I had a block of at least 10 games against 1 opponent, and in those 10 games I used a Quake to flip the location of Warrior Falls, and win the game, twice. These Quakes were pretty big, too, as also was a Victoria Hand/Moonstone deck. One time I had a massive proxima (from carrier) jump into falls, based on a 2 turn set up where I used their cards to destroy mine, and give me a clean entry point for Proxima on 6. The second time was a lot more straight forward, and just got my Collector to destroy their stuff on 6.
    I'd say on ladder, helicarrier/Victoria version might be the worst one, but things change once you're into more than a couple of games against the same guy.

  • @slayer4mayor
    @slayer4mayor 4 дня назад +1

    Always look forward to 8 Cubes

  • @d3m0nger
    @d3m0nger 4 дня назад +2

    The powercreap is not needing a nerf because because the every new card is way more powerful.
    The thing about powercreep is that just more old cards become irrelevant.

    • @Rambrus0
      @Rambrus0 4 дня назад

      not true. A lot of older cards become overpowered because of the new support. Daken became a very string card with Bullseye. Human Torvh became a very strong card wtih Madamae Web. Skaar became good with Surtur. The entire movr archetype became better with Scream. Obviously a couple card age worse than others, but new support or a little buff can put them back on track.

    • @unrealmagic6519
      @unrealmagic6519 3 дня назад

      ​@@Rambrus0also making literally every card be relevant is probably pretty challenging. Also F**K Bullseye and negative decks

  • @shafertasso
    @shafertasso 4 дня назад +4

    I have played so many other card games and I think that because Snap releases cards weekly which causes regular meta shifts it makes people feel like things should be nerfed at the same speed when in reality the balance of the game seems to be very healthy with all the new cards and how they end up shaping out their respective archetypes. I personally don't think anything is definitively "too" strong in the current metagame and think the 2025 meta has quite a bit variety as opposed to how I felt things were when I first started the game

  • @FilmColossus
    @FilmColossus 4 дня назад

    Galactus in Arishem is the best Galactus deck. It’s hilarious how often it works. It’s like a second Legion. I posted earlier about my hellacious losing streak. Started a new win streak and like 4 of the 10 games have been Galactus wins.

  • @antonioglavocevic3844
    @antonioglavocevic3844 4 дня назад +3

    Just noticed you still have /24 instead of /25

  • @FilmColossus
    @FilmColossus 4 дня назад +6

    Last week I got up to 2200 with Arishem Doom 2099 and was cruising. Suddenly in the last 24 hours I’m like 5 and 20 and dropped to rank 5000. It’s been really ridiculous. Just losing every 50/50

  • @ALo7ac
    @ALo7ac 4 дня назад

    I think there are more multi-synergy cards which tend to open up space in deckbuilding, which causes more options and refinement. For example, Victoria Hand is Hand-Generation/Ongoing, Bullseye is Discard/Afflict/Activate, Iron Patriot is Hand-Generation/Guardians-location-thing, Ares is 10 Power/On Reveal, Penni P. is Merge/Move/Ramp... etc

  • @TheTeaNinja
    @TheTeaNinja 4 дня назад +1

    Ares will crush Move/Bounce and Discard any other combo decks

  • @acepear
    @acepear 4 дня назад

    That is an interesting way to look at the the compensation (progression vs cosmetics), I would argue that the difference in progression should actually be smaller if you were looking to be balanced

  • @kevinsaiko1050
    @kevinsaiko1050 4 дня назад

    one of the best episodes!!❤

  • @ravello_
    @ravello_ 2 дня назад

    Would you say that a Mill deck is still effective without Fenris Wolf? He just doesn’t seem like a card that’s worth buying for me right now.

  • @rabblerouser8195
    @rabblerouser8195 4 дня назад

    I forgot who did the napkin math but the US comp is basically 1.5 what you get from a 10 buck season pass (and costs sd nothing)

  • @kaden7685
    @kaden7685 4 дня назад

    What do you think new players should spend the compensation rewards on, (new players meaning over 500 collection level, but low amounts of series 5)

    • @KMBestInASnap
      @KMBestInASnap  4 дня назад +1

      think this might be its own video lol

  • @Tyrbn
    @Tyrbn 4 дня назад

    The americans also get all the conquest stuff. So there is more progression in terms of conquest medals. But yeah, free stuff for everyone feels good but to battle the bad feeling that being locked out of a game where you spent money you do need to overcompensate

  • @pedrofernandes3784
    @pedrofernandes3784 4 дня назад +1

    It's great that Lamby came back! But one thing i wondered some days ago: Where's Brendan? As in, Brendan Patrick from the other podcast. Did he quit Snap altogether or is he still fixing his setup after moving and 4 banging in the keys?😅

    • @KMBestInASnap
      @KMBestInASnap  4 дня назад

      i believe he got a real job

    • @nanomencer71
      @nanomencer71 3 дня назад

      Don’t do it, gentlemen. Not worth it lol (unless you need insurance smh)

  • @brandaohimself
    @brandaohimself 4 дня назад

    If blob was so bad bc it just auto wins a lane...how is it different for bullseye to destroy an opponents board?

  • @unrealmagic6519
    @unrealmagic6519 3 дня назад

    Just a friendly suggestion maybe you should make distinguishable thumbnails for 8 cubes so people can differentiate between your regular videos and this. I enjoy watching both 8cubes and snapchat.

  • @olgringold5142
    @olgringold5142 4 дня назад

    Ares seems like it does well against decks that Shadow King does well against. Move bounce in particular comes to mind.

  • @mattishii
    @mattishii 4 дня назад

    I think this month has a lot of splashable starring role cards so there's some power creep there. Most of next month is supporting characters so I don't think it will feel as wild as this month has

  • @Acrylick42
    @Acrylick42 4 дня назад

    Discard is combo, there's so many interactions.

  • @intheshadows1623
    @intheshadows1623 4 дня назад

    They could have only give the US clients the difference of stuff for compensation. But they gave ALL players something, and the "base" package is, i think, an appology for the mediocre season drop and the other disapointments in bevore, too.

  • @nickolidudeman
    @nickolidudeman 4 дня назад

    I think the fact that Ares is an on reveal card can open him up to a wong/odin deck; and if you add in black panther, symbiote spiderman, arnim zola and/or task master., it could get hairy. I plan to cook with this card. I wanna see if he'll fit in a Sauron deck, with the usual suspects. I don't really see how it's a dangerous buy, with the fact that practically everyone is about to get the resource pile that could get you the card. But when was the last time second dinner released a card and didn't circle back to buff or nerf, or both, to make it as balanced as they think it can be? They don't really put out bad cards anymore. Even the free cards get played more than 80% of the early cards. Just saying.

  • @undo45
    @undo45 4 дня назад +1

    “…and my life is yours.”

  • @yallgottaunderstand
    @yallgottaunderstand 4 дня назад +3

    The people complaining about the compensation being unfair are giving me the same vibes as the people who complain that welfare recipients get too much stuff.

  • @SimonCleric
    @SimonCleric 3 дня назад +1

    If you don't believe in power creep, name like... three meta decks that don't include a card at least as old as the latest Spidey season, if not Asgardian.

  • @NathanaelFouts
    @NathanaelFouts 4 дня назад

    but I feel like it would be an interesting video for km to go through the different cost slots and try to place new floors like obviously the floor value of a 4 cost isn't six what is the average value you can expect from a card taking into consideration other factories like deck building cost possible discounts exe so like if he based the average 4 cost of ares you would say its a 4\6 base but it can be a 4\12 but the unreliable nature of the card requires you to play it specifically in decks with lots of power so I would place its average power at. 4/10

  • @GingerMan13
    @GingerMan13 3 дня назад

    I think its a combo deck too!

  • @swedishZ0mBi3
    @swedishZ0mBi3 4 дня назад +2

    This has been such a crazy good month for new releases. I guess Bullseye is the worst card and still like B+. I guess Ares will also end up in this good but niche spot.

  • @AequitasAUT
    @AequitasAUT 4 дня назад

    As far as i know the shop is closed for 24 to 48 hours worldwide. It's not like other countries are not affected.

  • @VoltronPilot
    @VoltronPilot 3 дня назад

    Of course Discard is a combo deck! They all are! The entire archetype is combo-based play. Go put just Blade in a random deck and see how well it works. Go add Morbius into a deck without specific COMBINATIONS of discard activators.
    Discard is a combo archetype.

  • @spincut13
    @spincut13 4 дня назад

    As a non frigga owner (just really not into a card that makes such a transparent play, I just retreat when I see that 🤷‍♂️ ), curious if owning bullseye is still worth it in that case.

    • @Ledluver
      @Ledluver 4 дня назад

      Sup! Like they said with Bullseye, it's a combo deck with set up cards. With my short experience owning Bullseye it feels ok 🤔 in peak draws you can end with 30 power in each lane with prio. You do need Miek and Daken tho. Frigga could be replaced with some tech like Red guardian, cosmo or cheap 'location control' like Scarlet Witch... yes I'm one of those enjoyers lol

    • @spincut13
      @spincut13 4 дня назад

      @ Gotcha; interesting frigga subs; though unclear how different that list would perform compared to frigga version (though I’m surprised it has any cube equity, seems the math is so transparent people often have a chance to retreat for 1 cube once frigga gets thrown, hence my lack of enthusiasm for her, being curious about bullseye aside).

    • @Ledluver
      @Ledluver 4 дня назад

      @spincut13 ngl I don't do the math against a bullseye deck. You just have to keep track of swarms if they discarded any, not have prio or have less things on the board 🤣 the mirror is a battle of losing prio too 😩

    • @lucasfilipe1634
      @lucasfilipe1634 4 дня назад +1

      Top 600 on ladder advice, I think you can replace Frigga with Nico Minoru. She can give Daken +2, copy a card, be a 1/4 is not that bad and sometimes you can turn a swarm into a demon, destroy the muramasa shard and change locations. Only problem is conflicting a bit with Colleen Wing.

  • @entropystings
    @entropystings 4 дня назад

    Negative 4 life. Love playing the mirror with my all gold deck versus all these un-upgraded versions.

  • @jeffhilton6729
    @jeffhilton6729 4 дня назад

    US gets 5 extra Hipp variants, woo! 😁

  • @cadenduguid3680
    @cadenduguid3680 4 дня назад

    First week in awhile w no Luke Cage chat, idk what that says but its interesting

  • @Citizero
    @Citizero 3 дня назад

    My biggest issue with Negative is drawing Mr Negative. Like seriously frustrating. Also these Mill decks kinda screw it over.

  • @moriyasanae8130
    @moriyasanae8130 3 дня назад

    i think he is a real deal, if Eson came out, he is going to be the best 6 power card for him
    Actually, even EU player are not completely unaffected, i am super worried, that my favorite card game is going to die😂
    That said, i am not complaining

  • @snowpoint720
    @snowpoint720 4 дня назад +3

    Iron Patriot = No Nerf. He rewards the early game. He pushes back vs Combo decks.
    ALLLLLLL move scalers need a nerf.
    HT -- 1 double per turn
    Dagger -- 2/2 +1 per card
    Vulture -- back to +5?

    • @LoganDash
      @LoganDash 4 дня назад

      Your Dagger changes goes too far. Just revert the changes that were made to her, which was to give +2, at a 2/2 stat line. If it’s really necessary, change her stat line to 2/1 or 2/0 🤷‍♂️.

    • @LoganDash
      @LoganDash 4 дня назад +2

      As for human torch, just make him a 1/1, like how dead pool works, you need to put some effort in buffing it up

  • @Tyron-u9c
    @Tyron-u9c 4 дня назад

    dont forget the 1000 gold

  • @artelier8934
    @artelier8934 4 дня назад +2

    If US players who used VPN to play (and thus didn't lose any progression) get the US compensation package, why shouldn't Rest of World players be able to use VPN to get the US compensation package as well?

  • @irwando1
    @irwando1 2 дня назад

    If you hate Lockdown and think it shouldn’t be meta, you should feel the same way about Mill. You can’t complain about one deck type that prevents your opponent from playing and support another. Mill should never be a meta deck.

  • @socraticgambler
    @socraticgambler 4 дня назад +2

    Iron Patriot should be 2/0 or 2/1 max.

    • @LoganDash
      @LoganDash 4 дня назад +2

      Or, why not make it discount -3 instead of -4? 2/0 will have the equivalent effect as Adam Warlock when he was that stat line, and he was hot cheeks

  • @billepperson2662
    @billepperson2662 4 дня назад

    35:13 Ya know what else I completely forgot about that made OG bounce so great until a recent rewatch of that 1st ever snap tourney on 983 media (which btw, features some stellar commentary AND playing from KM, both made even more so by the fact that it's a game that had just been publicly released a few weeks prior)? (2 cost) Beast's discount used to apply to affected cards for the rest of the game, not just a turn! Totally slipped my mind that you used to be able to: in a single turn, permanently make your (2 point proc'ing kitty) free AND your 2 cost hit monkey, only cost 1 for the rest of the game

  • @tf_deadfish0491
    @tf_deadfish0491 4 дня назад

    Midrange metas are so boring, deckbuilding becomes homogenous and there's never interesting play lines or unpredictable wins/losses I enjoy this game a lot for. Kinda wish we had stuff like ongoing sandman to reign in the pointracing.

  • @itsjawdan
    @itsjawdan 4 дня назад +1

    Power creep is definitely real. Newly released cards that aren’t good enough to see play feel awful - take Bruce Banner for example - it feels like a wasted week.
    I just wish they’d rein it in slightly.

  • @socraticgambler
    @socraticgambler 4 дня назад

    Lamby! ❤🎉

  • @TempestInMe
    @TempestInMe 4 дня назад

    KM hating on preinfinate again.