Hi LIoyd, that's a great review and helped enormously when looking for a new gun. I went to the gun room at Bywell on Wednesday and tried every gun I had researched. After much deliberation and great advice from the gun room staff, I settled for the 694. Once we had settled on the 30" barrel length, fitting the appropriate chokes and setting up the comb to my facial profile, we took it for a test shoot and I fell in love with it. Not only did I like it, but the friend I took along ended up buying one as well. Well done to all who helped us in the gun room at Bywell. We are back next week for a lesson with our new guns!
@@lloydyp thanks LIoyd, much appreciated. Your RUclips videos are excellent and you'll be seeing a lot more of me at Bywell because of you. Well done for all you do. Richard Scott.
Great review, thanks a lot. I was one of the first to lay hands on Beretta 694 sporting in india, back in Nov. Prior to this i was shooting 686 Gold, so for me it was definitely a big upgrade :). I have put about 500 through it. Its a smasher, you jst need to reach the target and its blast, no chips, total smack it. I am using Olympia Trap, which is pretty average ammo, but the results are very good. Another fellow shooter got the trap model for his son, and he jst scored his best of 112, he is 14yr. He has shot 25 quite a few times, prior to this he was using 692 black. Consistent feedback is it definitely handles much better, recoil is better. Patterns are very good. Even the wood we found is better what we had got on few 692s here. Only hickup and that was damn disappointing was that in mine, 2nd barrel was not getting engaged all the time. I opened it and inspected it to find that inertia block was facing some resistance while sliding over the back of the hammer, i filed it a bit and now its perfect. But i never expected that from Beretta. Beretta will sell a lot of these for sure. Its complete adjustable with weights, adjustable trigger pull and stock.
The more I see it, the more I like it! Let’s see how the next couple of years go and how I progress, maybe one for the upgrade list. Great review and video quality👍
Lloyd, thank you for your impressions on shooting and the handling of the 694, a practical no nonsense honest shooters review of the 694 over various disciplines. I have had the chance to see one in the flesh so to speak, unfortunately no demo gun available to try out yet. As soon as one becomes available I will definitely take advantage of trying the 694 out. Just opened my gun safe to see what would go to fund a new gun😉
First person to make any comparison to the 68x series. Would love to see full comparison though as it’s the decision many Beretta owners have to make themselves.
@@davedunn7759 The gun gets better and better. Action is breaking in nicely. It's a better gun than I can shoot but also I didn't want to buy say a Silver Pidgeon and end up selling it up upgrade.
@@lloydyp ,Yes Lloyd I bought the 694 B-Fast with the 30" barrels. I also bought the magnetic barrel weights. The wood grain is vertical fiddle back they say. I do love this gun so thanks for your videos I bought my 694. Plus I did get my shooting glasses up grade as well I bought the RE Ranger's the phantom series spot on.
Lloyd. Spectacular review. Because of you this is my next clay gun. Thank you for the quality videos, the editing when “answering” the questions made me crack a chuckle or two. Keep up the good work!
Glad I listened to your review I absolutely love my 694. My wife is trying to decide on hers between the 725 trap max or the 694 vittoria the 725 seems big for a 5ft 4 woman but is fully adjustable
@@lloydyp just did, awesome reviews. My wife is pretty set on a vittoria model but they are extremely hard to come by in California, from my understanding it’s due to covid. As soon as I find one it’s hers 😃
Hi Lloyd, great and honest review as always. Between beretta 694 and CG Invictus I , which one do you think is the best gun overall in terms of quality, build and reliability?
@@lloydyp Btw I had to send it back to Berreta to have it shoot 50/50 I couldn't get it there no matter what I did, but Beretta had it at my door in four weeks shooting 50/50. They should check there shotguns before shipping them to there distributor.
Lloyd I own the 694 B- Fast with vertical marbleized grainwood it is beautiful 30" barrels not 32's but that is ok by all means. It's a cracking gun your right. Thanks for this video
I've never shot OT Simon. The high rib guns do seem to be very popular for the Olympic disciplines but honestly I would be hesitant to suggest either based on my zero experience of the discipline.
Very informative review.......i am glad that Beretta has now finally as you say a good gun, though we have to wait to prove it"s self in time, only time gives the best review.......What about all these poor 692 owners that have a fairly new gun and strugling with it"s broblems and now Beretta makes something else - improved ? How do they feel ? At least Beretta under consideration should build a gun that it"s parts could fit- upgrade - and maybe for free or low cost- the previous models to make everyone happy. Thats honesty and respect to customers. Thats why i left Beretta and now i am on Blaser"s train............
I don't think it's realistic to expect Beretta or any company to maintain an old design because of flaws. Companies develop new products on a lifecycle and release them, sometimes they are successful, sometimes not. The economic realities of product development and sales are what they are.
@@lloydyp Let's see Blaser F3 from the very first model-had flaws- till the more recent-no more flaws. Every owner can upgrade every F3 even if it is an early one in any way stock - receiver -forend- barrels without limits and make an early model look like as already said the very recent. Yes i know it doesn't come cheap but it is very important that the gun uses the same chassis all these years and you can build it piece by piece with all upgrades unlike with a Beretta that you need to buy a whole new gun and sell your's lower than half the cost. Do not get me wrong.......i do like some Beretta models, i really want to shoot the new 687 III 2020, they sure know how to make a good gun but profit is their main goal so they do mess up things with no customer care............thats sad.
Lloyd, I’ve watched this video a few times now but also the Browning XS Pro(Both good reviews). Currently looking at my next purchase and I’m always choosing between these two. What’s your thoughts on these please? I know you own a XS but was wondering if there was a 694 at the same price as your XS Pro, which would you have chosen. Thanks Lloyd
Heyy Lloyd.. thanks for the review! How did you find the recoil with the 694? Pro sport weights around 3.9kgs and 694 around 3.6kgs. Also how are the trigger pulls compare to the 692??
Lloyd pattinson The 694 ($7000au)is on my shortlist and my question is how much better is a Dt11 at double the price ($15000au). A krieghoff is also on the shortlist ($18000au) mainly because if I dont like it then its easier to trade down, i can stop working overtime lol. Krieghoffs are coming into this country next month, apparently there's been none for 3 years. Ps it's not easy getting hands on these here.
I shoot both trap ( 80%) and sporting (20%). Currently, only the 32 inch barrel is available to buy at my store and online. Do you have any recommendation on barrel length? 32 or 30 inch? Wish I could hold and try both, but alas...can't do that for either. Welcome to the supply shortage...I currently shoot a Benelli Super Sport semi-auto, 28 inch barrel, 49.5 inches overall length. I'm 5 ft. 11 inches, 185 pounds. I know this is probably a stupid question and if I was only able to hold, mount, and try each one life would be so much easier.....Love your site, BTW.
Great review Lloyd but I don't agree when you keep on about hand chequering I shoot a Browning,it's great to think someone has used there hands to do it,like buying hand made furniture instead of a laser chequering....
It's not hand chequering I have a problem with, it's the execution. On a sub 5k gun if I had to choose between laser chequering or hand chequering that looks like I did it, I'll take laser.
Nice production quality Lloyd. Nice definitive answers comparing the 694 to other B.gun models--how about comparing it to the CG and Blazer competition? Thanks for the reviews.
I answered the questions I had been asked from the previous video, as ever these are my opinions of course. I need to have a think about CG and Blaser.
Great review Lloyd, always enjoy them. I am in the market, have a 10 year old Browning XS Skeet, works great. Seems like the 694 is similar gun. Thoughts? How would compare the 694 to a Perazzi for skeet?
I have just bought a new 694 in 32”, took it down to Bisley pay and play to test it out and I am really not getting on with it. Coming from a sliver pigeon field 30” to a 694 I thought it would be a step up, the gun has convincing breaks when hitting the clays but I’m not sure what is going wrong. Do you think it could be the change in barrel length? I am going for a fitting next week so hopefully can iron the problem out then
rough checkering on the Browning, I really like the rough checkering, gives it a new feeling for about 6 months. I suppose my big hangup for the 694 is the trigger. how is the inertia trigger? compared to a mechanical trigger?
Very much enjoyed this video especially your question and answer session mid way through. It would have to be very good to be better than the Browning Pro Sport. I have mentioned before here that I own and love a Browning Ultra XTR which is 16 years old and just fabulous. The Pro Sport is the latest version of that line I suppose, though not a pure trap gun. How would you compare the 694 with the Browning XS Pro? A few months ago I bought a 692 and really don't like it. It is now up for sale. I found it vague in the shoulder department and bouncy at the front end. Nicely built and good quality but not for me. I bought it because I couldn't get my head around buying a DT11 at £6000++++. I have already replaced the 692 with a used UGB25 which is really extraordinary. I love it and have morphed seamlessly from the Browning (which is now my second choice) to the UGB. Beretta seem to have slotted beautifully into that mid market sector with the 694 and I for one cannot wait to get my hands on one for a try out. Good video Mr Pattison.
Great review Lloyd, thank you. I actually took the plunge and bought one of these last week in 32” but not had chance to use it yet due to the weather. I really echo your comments though especially the fact it feels more ‘premium’ somehow.
@@lloydyp Good thanks Lloyd, had an adjustable comb fitted to give me a bit more rib. Only problem is my form has really dropped since coming back from lockdown so,having to work on that. No problem with the gun though and all good thanks for asking. I hope you’re well too?
That's a toughie. They are pretty evenly matched although they handle quite differently. The invictus is more of a heavyweight compared to the 694. I feel like I would need to shoot them both again to answer your question as it's been a while since I reviewed the cg. I would reccomend you try both if you can and see which suits your style best?
Great review Lloyd however it's left me more confused than ever. I've just obtained my license after a good few months and lessons at a local clay ground and will be heading up to Bywell to purchase my first gun. I started looking at the usual 525 and silver pigeon but then the 525 laminate caught my eye and I've increased my budget as I would rather buy once and have it last me. Question is ignoring fit etc would something like the 694 or ProSport be wasted in my hands or would they be able to see me throughout my shooting career, or I should I stick to the lower end and upgrade in a few years if I feel the need to. I'm in love with the looks of the 694 and it is nice to have nice things. Keep up the good work !!
I rushed out and bought a 525 when I got my license and couldn't hit a barn door with it as the stock was too high for me. I changed to a Caesar Guerini Summit and it suited me perfectly. Yo9u could even see on my registered CPSA scores which gun I'd been using.I traded the 525 in towards a Beretta 694 and it is a lovely gun to shoot and the stock suits me also.You keep seeing people say try before you buy and I wish I had.
Lloyd. Thank you for a great review. I've just got my license because my father handed his old side by side which is fine for 20 odd shots for game, but shooting 100-200 at the clay it kicks a bit. I only want to buy 1 gun (unless I can earn more money). Would you say that this is worth the £700 over the SP3 sport? Any advice is appreciated. I saw a 694 today and am use a demo gun next weekend. Great work! TIA
The 694 is a completely different gun to the SP. It's a focussed clay competition gun, the SP in any grade is a compromise gun for game and clays. Depends what you want really.
I currently have a 682 gold trap, would this be worth upgrading to? I have seen the acs version and it seems like a good gun. I'm only shooting trap at the moment.
Lloyd, I picked up the 30" 694 a few months ago and so far I've been very pleased with it. I'm considering getting a Blaser F16 sporting to use as a back up sporting and game gun. Do you think that'd be redundant? How does the recoil compare with 694?
I've tested the 694 recently and agree entirely. However I like the action and I and several others have found the comb to be about 2-3mm too low. I just hope they bring out an adjustable stock version real soon. But awesome gun.
Went into my local gun shop yesterday and shouldered both the 30” and 32” 694. Lovely feeling gun with a quality feel. Comb wasn’t low enough for me so they’ve ordered an adjustable one for me. Should be in before Christmas they say 👍🏼
Just read a review from Jaeger - the Danish magazine comparable to Field Sports UK: they went to Italy for a beretta launch and 5 out of 25 guns had ejector or pin fails, that’s horrible from such a gun! Otherwise he agreed with you on lots of things and that it shoots really well
Great review as usual Lloyd , I'm not really a fan of berettas but would like to give this one a try . Nothing to do with shooting but I really like your watch , can you tell me what sort it is please ?
Lloyd Pattison thanks very much , just turned 65 self employed so have to buy my own long service watch , will be getting one of these because I deserve it 😊
Brand New Browning Citori 725 Sporting Shotgun 12 Gauge, 32" Barrel, 3" Chamber, Gloss Walnut Stock, adjustable comb, Silver Nitride Finish, and right now 3-21-2020 the price is $2,799.99 + free shipping. The Model 694 has a suggested price of $4,500 Lloyd, That’s 1700.01 difference. Sorry but I must disagree with you that the Beretta 694 is worth that much money over the proven Browning 725 sporting. I like you channel. Thanks
That's a tough call. I actually own an F16, and I am not going to trade it in for a 694, but I use it for game not clays. Not sure how I would feel if it were my clay gun.
@@lloydyp No, I've just never been a fan of the Schnabel fore end. The flair at the front on the Beretta's doesn't stick out and hammer the point of my fore finger as bad as the Caesar Guerrini Schnabel fore ends do though.
Hi Lloyd. I wondering how a new 694 compares to the Second hand DT10 X trap you reviewed a while ago. I am guessing about the same price. Which do you prefer?
Oof, I think it would very much depend on the condition of the DT10. If you can find a tight one that's been well looked after, in theory it would be cheaper and I would probably go that way. However there are a finite number of guns that are in that condition, and if you cant find one, a new 694 would be a great choice.
Howdy lIoyd,A laser cut gun they lack the same feel that anything handmade gives you.not only that but the practical ability of laser cut chequering doesn't quite stand up to it's hand cut cousen.this is because,while pushing the cutters through the wood,you also condense the wood in the chequering,not only with force of the cutter but with the dust that the cutter creates.this leaves a denser, harder point in the chequering that outlooks and outlasts the laser cut option, Which often leaves a very open grain that can be susceptible to issues......but I bet you would still have laser chequering lol take care lIoyd..
I understand the benefits but remember we are talking about a gun that costs 3k. For sure on a more expensive gun the cost includes beautiful chequering. My point is that on a gun of a certain price point, laser cut is fine.
Looking to pick one up soon but debating on either getting one with the adjustable comb of fixed stock. When I mounted the fixed stocked one it fitted pretty much bang on, But I know this negatively affects it when it comes time to trade/sell in the future if need be. What’s your opinion? Thanks
Traded in my 725 and Bought the 694 adjustable one today😁. Excited to take it to sporting course. Just wondering if you use oil or grease under the ejectors?
I went to Bywell last week. I am stuck, Browning XS Pro or the 694. Tour reviews of both guns were excellent but if you were buying either one now what would you go for and why? Thanks
@@garethknobbs2097 well that's an open ended invite man, just let me know. Essentially there isn't much to chose between these to in terms of value for money, they have their strengths and weaknesses but are evenly matched depending on what fits you and what suits your style.
Here in the states we have the 694 ACS (all comp shotgun). Is this the same do you know? Also, you said better than pro trap/spot…but better than pro master too? The pro master will cost me an addl’ $1500 than acs after import. Thanks!
Still got very open boring for felt wads and as we all no plastic wads won’t be here for much longer what do you think Lloyd . Can you do some Patton testing please
Good idea, let me see what I can do. Personally I'm hopeful that manufacturers will develop biodegradable wads with better performance while not massively increasing cost. 🤞
Hi Llyod, which would you say is better, the 694 or the browning ultra xs titanium prestige? I'm in the market for either so any feedback would be great. Thanks.
I think the 694 is one of the best handling guns in the under 5k price bracket, but it's my personal preference re weight / feel / gripstyle as an out of the box package. The presige isnt manufactured any more but brings a lot to the table in terms of adjustability and accessories. I think you need to shoot both and decide for yourself as I am guessing you are looking at a used Prestige which will be a big saving vs a new Beretta, and pick the one that fits you, and your budget better.
@@lloydyp Thanks very much for reply. I've seen a dealer that has a brand new browning, one of the very last ones so i would be comparing new vs new. I've heard people say that the browning can be a bit nose heavy? As you say, it sounds like I need to try both.
Lloyd, I realize this video is a couple of years old but any thoughts on a Beretta 690 versus a 694 ? Thanks and nice videos but don't talk to fast as you folks from the UK have an "accent" and old ears here in the states ( not me of course ) can have trouble understanding the jargon ! Best regards from Montana USA, JZ
The 694 pretty much crushes the preceding 690 /692 series guns in every respect. Glad you enjoy the show, but believe it or not this is me speaking slowly and toning down my accent, I shall try and do better in future 😊
Now we are into the nitty gritty. At new price it's no doubt that the Ultra comes with more accessories in the box, and it's a very good gun. But for my money, I prefer the feel and the handling of the 694.
a lot of the people i shoot with are trying to peruade me my next gun should be the browning 725 pro sport, im not convinced. i guess its down to how it feels , im torn....
@@lloydyp not yet, though mates keep saying how great the B525 is.... i guess its a case of try and see, but i find that certain grounds are pro one or the other makes?
Hiya Lloyd most perazzi shot guns are hand chequering which most are 10 grand...can't get my head round why you say Browning chequering is not great especially on borders....to me they are both skilled at there job..
690 Black is the budget variant of the 692, It's fine and beretta have worked out the ejector bugs AFAIK, however it's not a patch on the 694 as a sporting clays gun.
@@lloydyp One more questions LLoyd. Do you have any thoughts on 30" vs 32" barrels? Shooting primarily Sporting. I'm coming from a field semi auto, demoed a 32" 694 yesterday and wondering if 30" might be an easier transition. Thanks in advance!
Very much depends on you. I prefer 32 for most guns, but that doesn't mean there is a right or wrong answer. Try both, buy the one you feel most comfortable with.
Lloyd Pattison 1 week ago "I would take a 694 of the 828 any day of the week. The Sport has improved trigger and better weight than the older 828 but it's let down by a crappy top lever which is a bugger to open and the price which is too high." answer on my same question ;)
Great review by the way. A lot of people think anything over 7 lbs is too heavy to carry in the field all day. Here in the US not too many people look down their nose at you if you're not hunting with a traditional gun. At least not that I've noticed. Keep up the good work!
I would take a 694 of the 828 any day of the week. The Sport has improved trigger and better weight than the older 828 but it's let down by a crappy top lever which is a bugger to open and the price which is too high.
@@lloydyp Well thank you so much...perhaps , last few days seems that we are sharing same opinion. I am concern about same issues. Thank you once again
Lloyd have bywell got a 692 black to compare it to the 694? A lot of people say that the 692 black shoots a lot different to a standard 692 due to having the carbon rib and the barrel weights
@@lloydyp ah i see your doing some house keeping on your RUclips replies lloyd 😂 I still haven’t bought a new gun yet I just can’t bloody decide! in the last 6 months I’ve shot invictus 1 prosport 525 ultra xs pro and the 525sl all fit and feel good I just can’t make my mind up
Honestly, the SL is a hell of a gun for the money, you don't need titanium chokes and nice wood. Get the SL and the specs. You can always buy swank chokes and whatnot later if you feel the need to waste money.
Hi LIoyd, that's a great review and helped enormously when looking for a new gun. I went to the gun room at Bywell on Wednesday and tried every gun I had researched. After much deliberation and great advice from the gun room staff, I settled for the 694. Once we had settled on the 30" barrel length, fitting the appropriate chokes and setting up the comb to my facial profile, we took it for a test shoot and I fell in love with it. Not only did I like it, but the friend I took along ended up buying one as well. Well done to all who helped us in the gun room at Bywell. We are back next week for a lesson with our new guns!
Great stuff, shout if you are up on a Saturday and I’ll say hello.
@@lloydyp thanks LIoyd, much appreciated. Your RUclips videos are excellent and you'll be seeing a lot more of me at Bywell because of you. Well done for all you do. Richard Scott.
Thank you for the review and the recommendation. Just bought the gun, now waiting for the shooting range to open again.
Thanks Klaus, enjoy it :)
crazy times, still not shot a single time ...
Great review, thanks a lot. I was one of the first to lay hands on Beretta 694 sporting in india, back in Nov. Prior to this i was shooting 686 Gold, so for me it was definitely a big upgrade :). I have put about 500 through it. Its a smasher, you jst need to reach the target and its blast, no chips, total smack it. I am using Olympia Trap, which is pretty average ammo, but the results are very good. Another fellow shooter got the trap model for his son, and he jst scored his best of 112, he is 14yr. He has shot 25 quite a few times, prior to this he was using 692 black. Consistent feedback is it definitely handles much better, recoil is better. Patterns are very good. Even the wood we found is better what we had got on few 692s here.
Only hickup and that was damn disappointing was that in mine, 2nd barrel was not getting engaged all the time. I opened it and inspected it to find that inertia block was facing some resistance while sliding over the back of the hammer, i filed it a bit and now its perfect. But i never expected that from Beretta. Beretta will sell a lot of these for sure. Its complete adjustable with weights, adjustable trigger pull and stock.
Thanks for watching man.
Hello I am interested in trap shooting , from where we can import this gun 694 in India
I have also heard a few people had similar issues with that inerta block from the factory indeed surprising
Just brought a 694 30" adjustable comb. Can't wait to set it up and try it out.
Enjoy 🙂
The more I see it, the more I like it! Let’s see how the next couple of years go and how I progress, maybe one for the upgrade list. Great review and video quality👍
Next years ? Beretta will give us every year new guns, helps selling them....so for years...
thanks Dan
Geat review Lloyd. I agree with you that Berette will sell a shed load of this gun!
Thanks man.
Great review! Purchased one a few weeks ago and after 1000 rounds or so through the gun, it is amazing! Love the new podcast too. Cheers from Kansas.
Thanks Tom. Glad you are enjoying the gun and the podcast.
Lloyd, thank you for your impressions on shooting and the handling of the 694, a practical no nonsense honest shooters review of the 694 over various disciplines.
I have had the chance to see one in the flesh so to speak, unfortunately no demo gun available to try out yet. As soon as one becomes available I will definitely take advantage of trying the 694 out.
Just opened my gun safe to see what would go to fund a new gun😉
Thanks David ;)
In a nutshell.
First person to make any comparison to the 68x series. Would love to see full comparison though as it’s the decision many Beretta owners have to make themselves.
Well done Beretta. 👍
Love it when you said “aye” to the camera
Was hoping people would find it amusing
Bought a 694 yesterday. Thank you for the review Lloyd.
Enjoy it man. 👍🏻
How are you liking the gun so far?
@@davedunn7759 The gun gets better and better. Action is breaking in nicely. It's a better gun than I can shoot but also I didn't want to buy say a Silver Pidgeon and end up selling it up upgrade.
@@nfavor Glad it’s working out! Crazy how many rounds it takes to break these guns in. Going through the same thing with my 690 Sporting. 👍
@@davedunn7759 Enjoy the gun and the sport! My only gripe is my range is a bit far but once I get there, its a great time with great people!
Had one for a couple of months,lovely gun.It shoots better than I ever will.
still got it?
@@lloydyp Yes,lovely gun.
You answer all the questions I had about the gun. I’m going for that.👍
Thank for watching
I've got my money to buy this 694 32" barrels going Monday to order one. Yes thanks for your videos
Have you got it yet?
@@lloydyp ,Yes Lloyd I bought the 694 B-Fast with the 30" barrels. I also bought the magnetic barrel weights.
The wood grain is vertical fiddle back they say. I do love this gun so thanks for your videos I bought my 694.
Plus I did get my shooting glasses up grade as well I bought the RE Ranger's the phantom series spot on.
Nice one, glad to hear you are enjoying the gun 😀
Really like the the whole design. Saving for this gun. Thx for the video
My Pleasure.
Lloyd. Spectacular review. Because of you this is my next clay gun. Thank you for the quality videos, the editing when “answering” the questions made me crack a chuckle or two. Keep up the good work!
Thanks man, as Alan Partridge would say: AahhhHaaaaaa!
I guess it will be the 694 vs the Blaser F16 and CG Summit since they're all priced similarly here in the states.
I have the 694 and the Summit and find them both similar to shoot.
F16 and 694 feel very different to shoot. The 694 is the better gun for clays IMO.
Glad I listened to your review I absolutely love my 694. My wife is trying to decide on hers between the 725 trap max or the 694 vittoria the 725 seems big for a 5ft 4 woman but is fully adjustable
Watch my wifes lates review of the Vittoria.
@@lloydyp just did, awesome reviews. My wife is pretty set on a vittoria model but they are extremely hard to come by in California, from my understanding it’s due to covid. As soon as I find one it’s hers 😃
Interesting review. It is nice that you are giving us your own opinion about that new shortgun. Thank you very much!
Thanks for watching.
I agree about the looks, but reserving final judgement until I've seen one in the flesh!
tried one yet?
@@lloydyp No, decided to keep my 692, for now at least...!
Hi Lloyd, great and honest review as always. Between beretta 694 and CG Invictus I , which one do you think is the best gun overall in terms of quality, build and reliability?
Thanks Lloyd, great review
Cheers Leo
Top lever matches the design on the receiver?
Other wise the review is great and informative.
Just bought one because of your review.
Thank you, how are you getting on with it?
@@lloydyp is nice one but not as nice as my DT 11 but it give me another one to shoot, more toys.
@@lloydyp
Btw I had to send it back to Berreta to have it shoot 50/50 I couldn't get it there no matter what I did, but Beretta had it at my door in four weeks shooting 50/50.
They should check there shotguns before shipping them to there distributor.
Lloyd I own the 694 B- Fast
with vertical marbleized grainwood it is beautiful
30" barrels not 32's but that is ok by all means. It's a cracking
gun your right. Thanks for this video
You are welcome.
Thank you for this great review. I shoot Olympic Trap and am undecided between the 694 and the 725 Pro Trap. Your suggestions hugely valued.
I've never shot OT Simon. The high rib guns do seem to be very popular for the Olympic disciplines but honestly I would be hesitant to suggest either based on my zero experience of the discipline.
@@lloydyp Much appreciate your honest comment. Keep up the good work.
No worries Simon. Sorry I couldn't offer more insight.
Excellent description.
Thanks Don
Great review! Have you considered reviewing the 690 sporting black?
Ive done the 692 black.
I love my beretta 694 just got it replaced my 692 💥💥
Nice one, good to hear.
Love this gun. Picked up the ACS version.
Thank you for a solid review.
Thanks for watching.
great review of the 694, do you have any knowledge of a skeet version becoming available?
Beretta 694 or CG Invictus G1, 30" barrel in either- so which one for general sporting clays and skeet?
Now that's a bloody tough question. I think the 694 is as good a gun for less money if that helps?
My Beretta 694 12/32 is coming in the next one week. Looking forward to breaking sporting clays.
Good luck with your new gun.
Very informative review.......i am glad that Beretta has now finally as you say a good gun, though we have to wait to prove it"s self in time, only time gives the best review.......What about all these poor 692 owners that have a fairly new gun and strugling with it"s broblems and now Beretta makes something else - improved ? How do they feel ? At least Beretta under consideration should build a gun that it"s parts could fit- upgrade - and maybe for free or low cost- the previous models to make everyone happy. Thats honesty and respect to customers. Thats why i left Beretta and now i am on Blaser"s train............
I don't think it's realistic to expect Beretta or any company to maintain an old design because of flaws. Companies develop new products on a lifecycle and release them, sometimes they are successful, sometimes not. The economic realities of product development and sales are what they are.
@@lloydyp Let's see Blaser F3 from the very first model-had flaws- till the more recent-no more flaws. Every owner can upgrade every F3 even if it is an early one in any way stock - receiver -forend- barrels without limits and make an early model look like as already said the very recent. Yes i know it doesn't come cheap but it is very important that the gun uses the same chassis all these years and you can build it piece by piece with all upgrades unlike with a Beretta that you need to buy a whole new gun
and sell your's lower than half the cost. Do not get me wrong.......i do like some Beretta models, i really want to shoot the new 687 III 2020, they sure know how to make a good gun but profit is their main goal so they do mess up things with no customer care............thats sad.
Just pulled triggers on the 694 30" Sporting based on your review. Can't wait to get it and go smash some clays!
Good man 👌
Lloyd, I’ve watched this video a few times now but also the Browning XS Pro(Both good reviews). Currently looking at my next purchase and I’m always choosing between these two. What’s your thoughts on these please? I know you own a XS but was wondering if there was a 694 at the same price as your XS Pro, which would you have chosen. Thanks Lloyd
I would have bought a 694 if one had been around used at the same money. Hopefully that answers your question 😉
Heyy Lloyd.. thanks for the review! How did you find the recoil with the 694? Pro sport weights around 3.9kgs and 694 around 3.6kgs. Also how are the trigger pulls compare to the 692??
Trigger pulls are on par, nice and crisp with minimal reset travel. Recoil feels great, no problems at all.
If they make a black edition I'll not be able to resist.
No reason they wont make a black edition
Lloyd pattinson The 694 ($7000au)is on my shortlist and my question is how much better is a Dt11 at double the price ($15000au). A krieghoff is also on the shortlist ($18000au) mainly because if I dont like it then its easier to trade down, i can stop working overtime lol. Krieghoffs are coming into this country next month, apparently there's been none for 3 years. Ps it's not easy getting hands on these here.
Great review as always
Thanks Matt.
Lloyd thanks for the video. I am very interested in the 694, however I am in doubt about a Rizzini S2000. Which one you would go for: 694 or S2000?
I have never tested the Rizzini so it's tough for me to comment here. I have asked, but I have yet to receive any test guns from Rizzini.
Great videos and reviews! Would you prefer the Beretta 694 or the blaser f16 sporting for competitive sporting clays?
694 any day. The f16 is a great game gun but it's a little light for clays.
I shoot both trap ( 80%) and sporting (20%). Currently, only the 32 inch barrel is available to buy at my store and online. Do you have any recommendation on barrel length? 32 or 30 inch? Wish I could hold and try both, but alas...can't do that for either. Welcome to the supply shortage...I currently shoot a Benelli Super Sport semi-auto, 28 inch barrel, 49.5 inches overall length. I'm 5 ft. 11 inches, 185 pounds. I know this is probably a stupid question and if I was only able to hold, mount, and try each one life would be so much easier.....Love your site, BTW.
Great review Lloyd but I don't agree when you keep on about hand chequering I shoot a Browning,it's great to think someone has used there hands to do it,like buying hand made furniture instead of a laser chequering....
It's not hand chequering I have a problem with, it's the execution. On a sub 5k gun if I had to choose between laser chequering or hand chequering that looks like I did it, I'll take laser.
Nice production quality Lloyd. Nice definitive answers comparing the 694 to other B.gun models--how about comparing it to the CG and Blazer competition? Thanks for the reviews.
I answered the questions I had been asked from the previous video, as ever these are my opinions of course. I need to have a think about CG and Blaser.
@@lloydyp thanks for the quick reply.
Great review Lloyd, always enjoy them. I am in the market, have a 10 year old Browning XS Skeet, works great. Seems like the 694 is similar gun. Thoughts? How would compare the 694 to a Perazzi for skeet?
Very similar handling if you get the balance right. It's an all rounder though rather than a dedicated skeet gun.
I have just bought a new 694 in 32”, took it down to Bisley pay and play to test it out and I am really not getting on with it. Coming from a sliver pigeon field 30” to a 694 I thought it would be a step up, the gun has convincing breaks when hitting the clays but I’m not sure what is going wrong. Do you think it could be the change in barrel length? I am going for a fitting next week so hopefully can iron the problem out then
Very nice recording, new Lloyd, new Beretta. I see you Instagram, thumb up !
Thanks man.
Is this a great review - "Yes" as always Mr P.😎
Thanks Richard.
rough checkering on the Browning, I really like the rough checkering, gives it a new feeling for about 6 months. I suppose my big hangup for the 694 is the trigger. how is the inertia trigger? compared to a mechanical trigger?
Very much enjoyed this video especially your question and answer session mid way through. It would have to be very good to be better than the Browning Pro Sport. I have mentioned before here that I own and love a Browning Ultra XTR which is 16 years old and just fabulous. The Pro Sport is the latest version of that line I suppose, though not a pure trap gun. How would you compare the 694 with the Browning XS Pro? A few months ago I bought a 692 and really don't like it. It is now up for sale. I found it vague in the shoulder department and bouncy at the front end. Nicely built and good quality but not for me. I bought it because I couldn't get my head around buying a DT11 at £6000++++. I have already replaced the 692 with a used UGB25 which is really extraordinary. I love it and have morphed seamlessly from the Browning (which is now my second choice) to the UGB. Beretta seem to have slotted beautifully into that mid market sector with the 694 and I for one cannot wait to get my hands on one for a try out. Good video Mr Pattison.
The 694 / Ultra XS are a very close match, I think you pick the aesthetic you prefer as it's too close to call in terms of features and handling.
Hi Lloyd, thanks for the review. Do you also think about a review for 694 and 725 (2020 model)?
I'm still waiting for the 725 to come from Browning. The lockdown and Brexit aren't helping.
Great review Lloyd, thank you. I actually took the plunge and bought one of these last week in 32” but not had chance to use it yet due to the weather. I really echo your comments though especially the fact it feels more ‘premium’ somehow.
How are you getting on with it 1 year later?
@@lloydyp Good thanks Lloyd, had an adjustable comb fitted to give me a bit more rib. Only problem is my form has really dropped since coming back from lockdown so,having to work on that. No problem with the gun though and all good thanks for asking. I hope you’re well too?
Aye grand apart from the lack of bloody shooting 🙄
Great review Lloyd, would you say this new Beretta is up to par de with a CG invictus? how would you compare them?
That's a toughie. They are pretty evenly matched although they handle quite differently. The invictus is more of a heavyweight compared to the 694. I feel like I would need to shoot them both again to answer your question as it's been a while since I reviewed the cg. I would reccomend you try both if you can and see which suits your style best?
Is this a better gun than the Ultra XS Pro. How is it shooting DTL Lloyd. TIA
Great review Lloyd however it's left me more confused than ever.
I've just obtained my license after a good few months and lessons at a local clay ground and will be heading up to Bywell to purchase my first gun.
I started looking at the usual 525 and silver pigeon but then the 525 laminate caught my eye and I've increased my budget as I would rather buy once and have it last me.
Question is ignoring fit etc would something like the 694 or ProSport be wasted in my hands or would they be able to see me throughout my shooting career, or I should I stick to the lower end and upgrade in a few years if I feel the need to.
I'm in love with the looks of the 694 and it is nice to have nice things.
Keep up the good work !!
I rushed out and bought a 525 when I got my license and couldn't hit a barn door with it as the stock was too high for me. I changed to a Caesar Guerini Summit and it suited me perfectly. Yo9u could even see on my registered CPSA scores which gun I'd been using.I traded the 525 in towards a Beretta 694 and it is a lovely gun to shoot and the stock suits me also.You keep seeing people say try before you buy and I wish I had.
Did you contact me on instagram about this perchance? I cant believe I didnt answer you at the time. sorry about that.
Lloyd. Thank you for a great review. I've just got my license because my father handed his old side by side which is fine for 20 odd shots for game, but shooting 100-200 at the clay it kicks a bit. I only want to buy 1 gun (unless I can earn more money). Would you say that this is worth the £700 over the SP3 sport? Any advice is appreciated. I saw a 694 today and am use a demo gun next weekend.
Great work! TIA
The 694 is a completely different gun to the SP. It's a focussed clay competition gun, the SP in any grade is a compromise gun for game and clays. Depends what you want really.
I currently have a 682 gold trap, would this be worth upgrading to? I have seen the acs version and it seems like a good gun. I'm only shooting trap at the moment.
No mechanical triger cost 4000 euros. B725 Sporter 2 has mechanical triger (totally crispy) and costs 2500 euros with fantastic balance.
I disagree, mechanical triggers are not automatically better tha inertia.
@@lloydyp I agree. But in case of B725 Sporter 2, it is...
Lloyd, I picked up the 30" 694 a few months ago and so far I've been very pleased with it. I'm considering getting a Blaser F16 sporting to use as a back up sporting and game gun. Do you think that'd be redundant? How does the recoil compare with 694?
Don’t bother. The 694 is better all round.
@@lloydyp you're the man thanks Lloyd!
I've tested the 694 recently and agree entirely. However I like the action and I and several others have found the comb to be about 2-3mm too low. I just hope they bring out an adjustable stock version real soon. But awesome gun.
Adjustable stock version is out in December.
Do we think they will make a black edition ?
@@2Twill Only time will tell really.
Went into my local gun shop yesterday and shouldered both the 30” and 32” 694.
Lovely feeling gun with a quality feel.
Comb wasn’t low enough for me so they’ve ordered an adjustable one for me.
Should be in before Christmas they say 👍🏼
Hi Lloyd,
Love the review!
Would you choose a 964 over the CG Invictus?
Just read a review from Jaeger - the Danish magazine comparable to Field Sports UK: they went to Italy for a beretta launch and 5 out of 25 guns had ejector or pin fails, that’s horrible from such a gun!
Otherwise he agreed with you on lots of things and that it shoots really well
EmilMouritsen Hej Emil. Hvis du overvejer en CG Invictus så har jeg et pragt eksemplar til slag næsten ny, til en kanon pris.
Vh Frederik
Been waiting for this, first English review online, congrats.
ferociousfrankie The Gun Shop did one last weekend but they don’t shoot it
@@cfcbeanz1122 Yeah, Lloyd did the same, this is a review.
Thanks Frankie.
How does the 694 compare to the miruko mk11, for balance and handling.
Personally love the plain understated style of the action much more then Perazzis latest offerings or generic “game scene” engraving
Beauty is in the eye etc.
Great review as usual Lloyd , I'm not really a fan of berettas but would like to give this one a try . Nothing to do with shooting but I really like your watch , can you tell me what sort it is please ?
Thanks man, it's a Damasko DA46 www.cwsellors.co.uk/products/damasko-watch-da-46-black-pvd-da-46-black-leather-pin-dmk-191?awc=7154_1569792908_42502fede05068ae2fba7244fa272670&AWIN&Shopila+UK+%28CSS+Partner%29
Lloyd Pattison thanks very much , just turned 65 self employed so have to buy my own long service watch , will be getting one of these because I deserve it 😊
@@pauleasthope8309 good shout, I love the mechanical feel of Damasko, also they have a quite unique sounding tick which is very pleasant.
Ordered a 694, but very slow to arrive! The wait is killing me!
They always take too long. I'm in the same boat,will be revealed soon what I'm waiting for.
Lloyd Pattison whatever it is, I will enjoy your review! Keep up the excellent videos.
Great review but when i saw one in Australia I found the stock wood pretty bland compared to the one you had on the review.
Thanks Alex
Brand New Browning Citori 725 Sporting Shotgun 12 Gauge, 32" Barrel, 3" Chamber, Gloss Walnut Stock, adjustable comb, Silver Nitride Finish, and right now 3-21-2020 the price is $2,799.99 + free shipping.
The Model 694 has a suggested price of $4,500
Lloyd, That’s 1700.01 difference. Sorry but I must disagree with you that the Beretta 694 is worth that much money over the proven Browning 725 sporting.
I like you channel. Thanks
Sorry Doug, I cant really comment on the pricing in the US, but I am comparing similarly priced models in the UK.
Great vid, I gotta get one soon
Thanks Rudy.
Hi Lloyd, 694 or Browning xs pro
Would you recommend a 30 or 32inch for 5 ft 9 27 year old male, primarily shoot skeet, do some sporting clays also?
Filming the interior of the barrels/ forcing cone would be nice
specialist lens required and not as interesting as you think
Lloyd, which do you prefer: Beretta 694 or Blaser F16? Thanks
That's a tough call. I actually own an F16, and I am not going to trade it in for a 694, but I use it for game not clays. Not sure how I would feel if it were my clay gun.
Best feature I can see is that Beretta has gone away from the Schnabel forend on the sporting guns!
same question, have you tried one yet?
@@lloydyp No, I've just never been a fan of the Schnabel fore end. The flair at the front on the Beretta's doesn't stick out and hammer the point of my fore finger as bad as the Caesar Guerrini Schnabel fore ends do though.
Hi Lloyd. I wondering how a new 694 compares to the Second hand DT10 X trap you reviewed a while ago. I am guessing about the same price. Which do you prefer?
Oof, I think it would very much depend on the condition of the DT10. If you can find a tight one that's been well looked after, in theory it would be cheaper and I would probably go that way. However there are a finite number of guns that are in that condition, and if you cant find one, a new 694 would be a great choice.
Thanks Lloyd. Your comment makes a lot of sense. Any idea when Baretta will release the 694 trap model for sale.
@@amskeet6532 Honestly I thought it would get a launch at the BSS as it can't be far away. Perhaps IWA?
Howdy lIoyd,A laser cut gun they lack the same feel that anything handmade gives you.not only that but the practical ability of laser cut chequering doesn't quite stand up to it's hand cut cousen.this is because,while pushing the cutters through the wood,you also condense the wood in the chequering,not only with force of the cutter but with the dust that the cutter creates.this leaves a denser, harder point in the chequering that outlooks and outlasts the laser cut option, Which often leaves a very open grain that can be susceptible to issues......but I bet you would still have laser chequering lol take care lIoyd..
I understand the benefits but remember we are talking about a gun that costs 3k. For sure on a more expensive gun the cost includes beautiful chequering. My point is that on a gun of a certain price point, laser cut is fine.
Looking to pick one up soon but debating on either getting one with the adjustable comb of fixed stock. When I mounted the fixed stocked one it fitted pretty much bang on, But I know this negatively affects it when it comes time to trade/sell in the future if need be. What’s your opinion? Thanks
Do you have an aesthetic opinion? Like do you prefer the non adjustable?
Traded in my 725 and Bought the 694 adjustable one today😁. Excited to take it to sporting course. Just wondering if you use oil or grease under the ejectors?
@jl5246 depends how often you want to take them out. Oil is fine if you don’t want to have to remove them and clean them all the time.
Hi, just bought 694. What is this decal/sticker looking thing along the barrels? Is it a protective film? Can I take it off?
Beretta come with a protective film on the barrels, yeah you can pull it off.
I went to Bywell last week. I am stuck, Browning XS Pro or the 694. Tour reviews of both guns were excellent but if you were buying either one now what would you go for and why? Thanks
Are you up there again on Saturday Gareth? I can bring my Ultra up, you can have a go and we can discuss your choice?
@@lloydyp I really appreciate that Lloyd, unfortunately I am working Saturday, but many thanks
@@garethknobbs2097 well that's an open ended invite man, just let me know.
Essentially there isn't much to chose between these to in terms of value for money, they have their strengths and weaknesses but are evenly matched depending on what fits you and what suits your style.
@@lloydyp thanks I will let you know next time I am up that way.
Here in the states we have the 694 ACS (all comp shotgun). Is this the same do you know? Also, you said better than pro trap/spot…but better than pro master too? The pro master will cost me an addl’ $1500 than acs after import. Thanks!
I'd go for the 694 over the Pro Master. Especially if it's saving 1500 bucks you can spend on ammo and clays.
Still got very open boring for felt wads and as we all no plastic wads won’t be here for much longer what do you think Lloyd .
Can you do some Patton testing please
Good idea, let me see what I can do. Personally I'm hopeful that manufacturers will develop biodegradable wads with better performance while not massively increasing cost. 🤞
Lloyd, A silly question - How important is the balance of a gun. My 694 32'' is barrel heavy and is OK, but I wonder if I should get it balanced?
Depends how you shoot. But balancing it up is a doddle. Where are you based?
Sutton Coldfield - Where are you?
@@charlesdouglas2877 Northumberland, you should see if you can book a session with Ed Solomons.
What model number is the gun that you reviewed?
Lloyd what do you think of the 31 inch model not sure if i go for 30 or 31 special edition
I’m still waiting to test it.
Hi Llyod, which would you say is better, the 694 or the browning ultra xs titanium prestige? I'm in the market for either so any feedback would be great. Thanks.
I think the 694 is one of the best handling guns in the under 5k price bracket, but it's my personal preference re weight / feel / gripstyle as an out of the box package. The presige isnt manufactured any more but brings a lot to the table in terms of adjustability and accessories. I think you need to shoot both and decide for yourself as I am guessing you are looking at a used Prestige which will be a big saving vs a new Beretta, and pick the one that fits you, and your budget better.
@@lloydyp Thanks very much for reply. I've seen a dealer that has a brand new browning, one of the very last ones so i would be comparing new vs new. I've heard people say that the browning can be a bit nose heavy? As you say, it sounds like I need to try both.
@@thelordofthemanor6949 can be, but does the Prestige not come with stock weights? the XS does but I have never gotten my hands on a prestige.
Lloyd, I realize this video is a couple of years old but any thoughts on a Beretta 690 versus a 694 ? Thanks and nice videos but don't talk to fast as you folks from the UK have an "accent" and old ears here in the states ( not me of course ) can have trouble understanding the jargon ! Best regards from Montana USA, JZ
The 694 pretty much crushes the preceding 690 /692 series guns in every respect. Glad you enjoy the show, but believe it or not this is me speaking slowly and toning down my accent, I shall try and do better in future 😊
Hi Lloyd what you think is the better choice Beretta 694 or the Browning ultra sx pro ,being there both about the Same price
Oops sent before watching the full vid 😂
Now we are into the nitty gritty. At new price it's no doubt that the Ultra comes with more accessories in the box, and it's a very good gun. But for my money, I prefer the feel and the handling of the 694.
@@lloydyp also do you think the blazer f3 would be a a better choice, second-hand all about the same money ,thanks for your advise once again
a lot of the people i shoot with are trying to peruade me my next gun should be the browning 725 pro sport, im not convinced. i guess its down to how it feels , im torn....
Have you tried one?
@@lloydyp not yet, though mates keep saying how great the B525 is.... i guess its a case of try and see, but i find that certain grounds are pro one or the other makes?
@@navinseneviratne139 certain shops / areas certainly favour Browning / Beretta for sure.
How would you compare the 694 to the Caesar Guerini Summit Sporting?
I wouldn’t. The 694 is in a different class.
Sir how about triggering of 694 is better than 692 ?
We’ll you did it again picked up a nice used one sweet gun
Hahaha, yes, it’s 100% my fault. 😂 do me a favour and don’t tell your Mrs where I live.
Hiya Lloyd most perazzi shot guns are hand chequering which most are 10 grand...can't get my head round why you say Browning chequering is not great especially on borders....to me they are both skilled at there job..
Just because it's done by hand doesn't mean it's good. The bordering on browning guns looks rough IMO.
04:30 The Fast Show - Jazz Club :o) lmao
Finally! Someone got the reference! 😉
@@lloydyp I'm in Boro mate, i think it's a Northern thing ... y'know .... humour LOL
Lloyd - How does this compare to the 690 black? Worried about ejectors on the 690 and trying to justify the increased cost of the 694. Thanks!
690 Black is the budget variant of the 692, It's fine and beretta have worked out the ejector bugs AFAIK, however it's not a patch on the 694 as a sporting clays gun.
@@lloydyp Thank you!
@@lloydyp One more questions LLoyd. Do you have any thoughts on 30" vs 32" barrels? Shooting primarily Sporting. I'm coming from a field semi auto, demoed a 32" 694 yesterday and wondering if 30" might be an easier transition. Thanks in advance!
Very much depends on you. I prefer 32 for most guns, but that doesn't mean there is a right or wrong answer. Try both, buy the one you feel most comfortable with.
@@lloydyp Lloyd - Decided on a 32”. Got it last week, shot it today and I am very happy. Thanks for the help!
Hi Lloyd which do you prefer benelli 828u sport r the beretta 694?
Lloyd Pattison
1 week ago
"I would take a 694 of the 828 any day of the week. The Sport has improved trigger and better weight than the older 828 but it's let down by a crappy top lever which is a bugger to open and the price which is too high."
answer on my same question ;)
Could the 694 be used for pheasant hunting on occasion? The weight doesn't seem too excessive to carry it all day....
Dont see why not, not terribly traditional looking, but depends who you are shooting with I suppose.
Great review by the way. A lot of people think anything over 7 lbs is too heavy to carry in the field all day. Here in the US not too many people look down their nose at you if you're not hunting with a traditional gun. At least not that I've noticed. Keep up the good work!
I had in mind to go for Benelli 828U SPORT... but now you make me question the decision ... little advice would be very appreciated . Thanx
I would take a 694 of the 828 any day of the week. The Sport has improved trigger and better weight than the older 828 but it's let down by a crappy top lever which is a bugger to open and the price which is too high.
@@lloydyp Well thank you so much...perhaps , last few days seems that we are sharing same opinion. I am concern about same issues. Thank you once again
Lloyd have bywell got a 692 black to compare it to the 694? A lot of people say that the 692 black shoots a lot different to a standard 692 due to having the carbon rib and the barrel weights
It's not that different, I have tested the black in a recent vid.
@@lloydyp ah i see your doing some house keeping on your RUclips replies lloyd 😂 I still haven’t bought a new gun yet I just can’t bloody decide! in the last 6 months I’ve shot invictus 1 prosport 525 ultra xs pro and the 525sl all fit and feel good I just can’t make my mind up
@@petyt8 all good guns, you just need to roll the dice and pick one.
@@lloydyp if you was me and tied by a budget would you buy the 525sl a pair of dx1 and ranger glasses or would you buy the ultra xs pro?
Honestly, the SL is a hell of a gun for the money, you don't need titanium chokes and nice wood. Get the SL and the specs. You can always buy swank chokes and whatnot later if you feel the need to waste money.