Firefighter Tests Element Fire Extinguisher. DOES ELEMENT WORK?
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Professional Firefighter independently tests Element fire extinguishers in a variety of different situations.
Hi everyone, I’m an active professional firefighter with over 18 years of service. I’m also an avid off-road enthusiast. I have been curious about Element Fire Extinguishers and wanted to test them out myself to see how they performed.
In this video I was joined by my fellow off roader friend Jason where we discuss all things firefighting and test out Element extinguishers on several different kinds of fires. We tried to cover a lot of stuff, so the video is long but really informative.
If you want to see a particular section, time stamps are below.
Chapters:
0:00 Preview
0:48 Intro
1:28 Professional Qualifications & Fire Classes
3:20 Types of Extinguishers Explained
5:30 Element Fire Extinguisher Introduced & The Fire Triangle Explained
9:12 Stages of fires explained
10:20 Understanding Compacting of Dry Chem Extinguishers and Inspections
13:26 Advantages of Element Over Traditional Extinguishers
14:37 Safest Way to Activate an Element Extinguisher
18:10 Test #1: Fuel Pan Fire
19:05 Test #2 a: ATF on Hot Exhaust Fire
21.05 Test #2 b: Covered Hot Exhaust Fire
26:21 Test #3: Pressurized Fuel Hose Fire
30:56 Test #4: Child Tries Element on Fire
32:14 Test #5 a: How to Use a Dry Chem Fire Extinguisher
35:16 Test #5 b: Dry Chemical Extinguisher FAIL and Eventual Test
38:34 Test #6: Dissecting and Element Extinguisher
40:06 Can a 7 Year Old Activate an Element Extinguisher?
41:52 Conclusion
42:57 Outro - Ricky Bobby Style
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Thank you Kevin & Jason for this great video. You are covering a lot of the questions we get asked daily.
Fire fighting is a technical topic. It is not always easy to cover it all.
Yet it is important to share the knowledge so we reduce the risk of unwanted/uncontrolled fires.
Part of the Team at ElementFire Europe we have firemen that are also working on educating the public on this topic.
Well done & Thanks a lot!
Oh wow! Thanks for watching my video. Our off-road community has been unfairly hammering the product and I just really wanted to see how it performed myself. I hope it helps others.
@@Chasing518 I think a lot of people are hammering it unfairly because they do not understand the first thing about it rofl. Even look at the instructions such as “don’t use on outdoor coal fires(camp fire, etc)”.
Superb video and incredibly informative. I was very disappointed in the 'expert' who was in the Harrys Situation video on this very subject. They did all of their testing on free burning fires with NONE of the extinguishers they used actually fully putting out any of the fires. You would think they would know the difference between an incipient and free-burn fire. Also they discussed Halon and referred to it as being safe to breathe which anyone with any knowledge knows those are highly toxic if not lethal if ingested. Getting back to your video it was really easy to follow and displayed a clear understanding of fire and fire fighting techniques. Thank you for taking the time to make such an excellent and well informed video.
Awesome! Yes, the fire in Harry’s video is clearly a “prop” used to teach firefighters how to extinguish a car fire with a hose line. Extinguisher training is never conducted on a prop meant for suppression training of a well-involved vehicle fire. I hope this video helps people understand incipient phase fires better and shows them the importance of getting on top of the fire before it grows.
Please do a lithium battery fire 🔥.
I have had these for a couple of years now in my camper van (fire saftey stick called in Europe) .
never used them yet fortunately.
i learned a few things, also gave me even more confidence in the product. thanks for a great video
That’s great! Thanks for watching!
Great video! Thanks for doing it. Very informative.
Fanatic video, lots of great information. I really liked the fire triangle information, made lots of since. Also it was interesting to see how easy the Element fire extinguisher was to use and how effective it was. Also most of the time it went longer than 50 seconds. Great video!
Thanks Jimmy. The fire triangle is often overlooked or misunderstood.
Kevin, awesome job! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us wheelers. Very interesting scenarios and great to observe the way the element interacts with the fire. Kill switch is an upgrade I need on my Jeep. Scary to see the fuel pump fire. Thank you!
Yep! Another integration you could do is add an “inertia” switch from a 90s Ford. They are a reset-able fuel cut off, that trips in an accident.
Great video! Lots of great info for all. Everyone can learn a little bit and be more prepared in case of the unthinkable.
Thank you Brian, we just wanted to present straightforward, and transparent information.
So glad a video like this was finally made, there’s so little information on these extinguishers
Right on, glad you liked it.
Impressionnant. Merci pour cette démonstration.
This was very helpful. thanks. I'm going to go check the ratings on my extinguishers now. Ive always just bought them without paying too much attention.
Right on! Glad it helped.
Great demo. Thank you.
Es un inventazo! Lo he probado y funciona! Gracias por el vídeo. Voy a comprar uno para el coche y para la moto.
Super merci pour cette vidéo bravo pour la démonstration et l'efficacité du element fire
Lots of good information, but most of us converted to salon some years ago in the race car/hot rod community because of either the mess of dry chemical, corrosion or potential engine ingestion.
Very good, I bought an Element FX That I carry on my dirt bike, and have watched some videos showing the inafectivness of it but now after your demo I feel much better.
Awesome, thanks for watching!
Just watched this as I have lost faith in the Elements I carry in my Jeep. This gives me a little confidence as a backup extinguisher now. One thing I noticed you didn’t test was a clean agent extinguisher albeit a lot more expensive. I feel the immediate out is a feature to not overlook.
Great Video explaining this extinguisher....I really like the "real world" scenarios you put it through.....I think it definitely shows why these are a great additional to any off road rig...
Watch any other video, then come back and edit this comment 😂😂😂
If you absolutely hate your rig sure.. They don't work for sht..
Every other video featuring these E50’s they don’t put out the fire for shit.
Excellent stuff!
After watching other videos using this product, then seeing this video, I think their failure is in how they were using it. I had decided not to buy one because of those videos, but after watching this I believe I will buy one for my Jeep. I will likely also have a regular extinguisher as a back up, but I’d much rather have the E50 to use first so it leaves no trace and does no damage and only go to the other type of extinguisher if the E50 won’t do the job. I may actually buy the E100 though because it goes for 100 seconds instead of 50.
Awesome! My whole intent was to test it more fairly.
Extra ! Merci pour cette vidéo !
I have one in my 1931 model A pickup as well as my garage. Hope to never have to use them but piece of mind if I do. BECAUSE I just checked my ABC traditional red extinguishers- 5 years out of date and fully caked. Yikes I thought they were only a year or two old and functional. The Element 50 just one less thing to worry about. As the video says just 1=0 so an Element (get a few for all locations Truck-garage-house) and a traditional and when your red Chem goes blah the Element will save the day - at least give you a fighting chances to break the fire Triangle. Nice video fellas. 👍🏽
2 is 1, 1 is none!
Thank you guy.
12v pump to some gas... safety Steven here lol. Probably could be confusing for someone not trained cause both ends look the same
“Don’t try this at home kids”. 😂
Very informative video
Thanks. Got a lot of time wrapped up in this one.
Great video. Hopefully it spreads around and saves a couple people or their rigs.
That would be amazing if someone told me someday that this information saved their day!
Couple of thing wrong here, first about K class extinguishers.
K class is indeed for kitchens, but its for commercial kitchens with fires evolving higher volumes of vegetable oils and commercial cooking equipment, like modern deep flyers. Those extinguishers are stainless steel cylinders much like a 2.5 gallon water extinguisher just a bit shorter and less capacity (6L or 1.5 gal) the K class extinguisher is intended to be used in conjunction with and after the actuation of a kitchen suppression system, an ABC or BC dry chemical would be perfectly adequate for a home kitchen fire, ABC preferred for the potential A class combustible materials that most kitchens contain.
For the dry chemical extinguishers, the will only be caked up inside if the chemical used to recharge was contaminated. Back in the day we (we being the fire extinguisher service industry, and the NFPA) had the thought of the chemical "settleling" and during the annual maintenance it was previously suggested that the chemical should be "fluffed" this however has been removed from the maintenance procedure as the vibration from using a dead blow hammer causes damage to the gauge and potential for inaccurate pressure readings as determined by the NFPA.
The 6 years between and extinguisher being placed into service and its internal examination does not introduce enough settleling of the chemical to effect the operation of the unit, especially if, as you mentioned, the monthly inspections and annual maintenance are being performed.
In a dry chemical extinguisher there is the gas (nitrogen) and the powder. They combine to form a suspension rather than the gas pushing down on the powder.
In a vehicle the vibration shouldn't compact the powder especially if regular inspections and maintenance have been performed. I personally have emptied out 30 year old units and they almost completely expelled all the powder. I've also emptied units that were living on tow motors/lift trucks, so vehicles will little to no actual suspension, for a decade or more, mounted in an almost upright position and they too expelled almost the entirety of the extinguishing agent (powder).
My qualification is more than 20 years as a fire extinguisher inspector and service technician. I have discharged 1000s of extinguishers during their internal maintenance or to discharge for disposal. I get recertification every 3 years as per the "NFPA 10: standard for portable fire extinguishers"
Great video showing the effectiveness of portable fire extinguishers.
Note, that platic valved unit with the without the gauge was pretty much useless from the factory, and since the factory tamper seal was gone (it was incorporated into the red or yellow plastic pin or locking "clip" that would have kept the push button locked in an upright position) the extinguisher had most likely been operated at some point. I'd also suggest that it was likely well past its expiration date, mostnof those use once and toss them types are required to be replaced at 6 or 12 year intervals, it would be on the lable and in the owners manual.
Also it should be mentioned that Kidde (the manufacturer of thos plastic valve units) in 2017 recalled 37.8 million of those units in the USA, plus millions more here in Canada, due to failure to discharge and nozzle detachment, including the ones of the same design as the one in the video, I'll post a link in a reply to my comment just so this comment doesn't get flagged by the algorithm.
Wow! Great info! Thank you for adding this. 🙏🏻
Excellent video Kevin! Love the intro and outro😂 one thing I was hoping to see, and wonder, can these be thrown into a vehicle fire? Say it’s getting hot or your worried about an explosion, could you light a few of these off and toss them inside the car or onto the motor? Or would the fire itself just melt them? Granted if it’s that hot these probably won’t do much at that point 🤷🏼♂️
I obviously haven’t performed your test, but I can say with 100% certainty that would not work. If the fire is too big or too hot, save the Elements (or dry chems) for another day.
Thank you! I have 2 questions for my 4Runner kit. I will now get 2 of these elements at the 50 size. 1) should I also have a different fire extinguisher for redundancy and back up? If so, what do you recommend? 2) What do you recommend to do if a jackery style Lipo battery catches fire?
I would carry a traditional ABC if you have room, just remember to replace it every couple years. If a LiPo catches fire, you are kind of screwed. I feel like historically though, they mostly catch fire while charging, so do that outside where there are no exposure risks
Thanks.
How about halon?
i prefer to just use those oxygen sucker systems, like a controlled fuel air bomb, just use an oxygen tank\mask while activated.
Hey good demo! Just thinking... I fly a powered paraglider, and have seen a few incidents of engine fires recently, to which i have not seen a viable option of extinguisher for us, until this. Of course, weight and size are paramount, and effectiveness in open wind with a propeller is a question, but my thought is better to have a chance than none. Do you think these would work ok?
I think a high wind environment like you describe would be it’s achilles heel honestly. I have ZERO idea how to extinguish a fire mid flight but you have my curiosity peaked!
@@Chasing518 well I went ahead and ordered one. Maybe if nothing else it can help keep the fire at bay while I make the emergency landing... I hope to not have to use it but if I ever do or hear of someone having to do so, I'll be sure to drop the update here.
Greatly informative video about the various classes of fires and uses of the extinguishers. Any opinion/experience with the spray cans of extinguishers like FireAde?
I haven’t seen one of those in person, but would love to try it out!
@@Chasing518 good deal.
So my question is with those element sticks how do they hold up to the elements?
My buggy sees plenty of mud and rain canada. Does the sparker work wet etc
That is a good question. Definitely not my area of expertise living in dry Southern California. I’ll reach out to Element and see if they have an answer.
@krisbarnard1684 I reached out to Element with your question and got this reply:
Element is not affected by extremes of temperature, humidity, or vibration. It is safe to store outside in super hot conditions or sunlight. That said the tip needs to be kept dry and the cap provides all the protection it needs for anything shy of continuous submersion in water. So long as the tip is not soaked you are ok
Bravo ! Merci pour cette vidéo !
You can tell he's a professional firefighter because his bunker gear is laying on the ground behind him.
Ie: read that as "Halon", not salon. Fricken' spell check!
The element would seem to shine in an engine compartment.
I agree, anywhere you could “fog” out a space would be ideal
this Bruh boy is a fireman where? 18 years? lololo! counting his explorer time too? big off road guy? like a jr ivan stewart dood?
Paid professional since 2004 “bruh”, so I guess it is actually 20 years now. Troll much?
go back to playing fornight, kid