@@someonethatwatchesyoutube2953 a lot if not most shops divide the work evenly amongst the workers. but if plenty of people come in reporting the same issue, why waste time and efficiency when you can just have the best guy to focus on this issue. Im sure the the transmission tech has also been at the shop for a while
@@wurly164 Well that and their cars used to start falling apart at about 60k miles. Engines, Transmission, etc. So 100k to a transmission change is a vast improvement.
It’s pretty common in the tech world, so with newer cars being more tech-oriented it makes sense that automakers would start doing the same. Just sucks for the consumers who purchase their junk
@@MikeAnvil this actually started way back in the 50's its just taken 50 years.we used to laugh at brands like deawoo and kia,now Korea sells us back our scrap metal and calls it a car.
They don’t even need to “plan” all the newer ones have cell tower connections. Gm can literally send the brick code whenever they’d like. All newer cars have to force the EVs out.
Damn I am sorry dude just try to find a good shop and and a good warranty on the new one. I didn't have a choice. Got the transmission for about four and another stack to throw it in I didn't have a choice. Some places have financing that doesn't affect your credit just a small loan might not cover the entire cost but better than putting up all your money at this point, I'm just gonn ride till the wheels fall off .If I would've traded it in, I would've owed more than I would've spent on the transmission basically restarting my note .I forgot to mention I literally just paid it off like six months before this happened so don't feel to bad man, I wanted to efffin cry 😂
@@volcom305670 Sadly, I don't think the lawsuit applies to ours because it's a 10 speed. The biggest expense for us would be the rebuild or a new transmission, because we can pull it out and put it in ourselves.
You will be lucky to get $60 in the class action. Class action lawsuits are such bullshit. All the money goes to the lawyers and court fees and very little goes to the consumers that are effected by it
@@squarebodyseth5986 have you even looked at GM prices? Lol theyre the luxury brand of Chevy, they usually start around 60k. $35k sure if youre buying a 2014 or ‘15 with 125k miles on it with an already rebuilt trans😂
@@imcrux6583 Yeah i own one lmao. Rather buy one with a rebuild then a factory. But as long as you hit the Torque converter before it starts giving issues theyre golden but you gotta watch for them lifters. Tourqe converter and a DOD delete and these things are pretty good. Shouldnt have to do upgrades to make it a reliable daily but it is what it is. I bought for 35k at 70thousand i put 70 on it, put a tourque converter in and flushed with amsoil as soon as i bought it, just changed it recently. Dont let my name fool you i somehow switched up over the years.
@@squarebodyseth5986 see, thats stupid as hell. No one should be buying a $60k+ vehicle and then have to swap out or service their torque converters basically as soon as they get it. Thats not good business
He speaks the truth, right after my 2018 suburban hit 100,000 miles the torque converter blew and wrecked the transmission, total rebuild. The vehicle was not abused or driven rough.
I can confirm. We have a bunch of them in our fleet. It's actually the torque converter that breaks down and sends crap in to the transmission. Therefore the transmission goes out. The first tell tale is a very light jerking or pulsing as you go down the highway at regular speed and try to speed up just slightly to pass another vehicle.
Holy shit my 17 Sierra is doing it on the highway, you barely notice it but if I don’t accelerate hard enough and just barely touch the pedal I can feel that little pulse or jerk, it’s very light right now. But damn I don’t want to spend 5k on a new trans , truck only has 138,000 miles! fuck
@@bradkvick1382 In the 2000 thru 2005 Chevy Impala the transmissions have gear clutches that wear out. The same transmissions were also installed in many Buick products from the same time period. Our GM Buick dealers service department said they all have the same problem. Our GM dealer also keeps these transmissions in stock at their parts department because they fail all the time.
The Jews who made this the norm to have cars or anything really break down after a certain length of time will come after you nonetheless. Wont buy a new car? We'll make older vehicles be against the law to own because of new climate change regulations. You will own nothing. And you will be happy.
@mobregonjr They still had the problems with the transmissions back in the day. It's just that we have new materials and different ways to implement it.
@@dcgeeked8917u and all 3 people in the continental us who kept it longer than 30k miles instead of trading for a new one and doubling ur debt every 2 years
@@jessemartinez4601 we never did maintenance on our transmission. We have a 2002 expedition and we have 200,000 miles haha. Some transmissions are just built better than others lol. Older cars just last longer lol.
The transmission itself is usually fine until the torque converter goes. If you catch the torque converter failing early, most people can save the transmission by just replacing that part with a stronger aftermarket one. Once the torque converter goes the whole transmission eats shrapnel.
@@claytonsmith6092 well let's place at least some of the blame on the consumer that trusts fluid friction to move their vehicles forward and backwards. The people who make rational decisions still drive trucks from the 90s with clutch friction because they are cheaper to maintain past 100k miles
@@calebz1448 - If all of America chose to drive '90s trucks with manuals, there wouldn't be any on the market and there is barely any on the market right now. Autos have been around for a long time.
Transmission 8spd. on my ‘16 Escalade started to shatter around 60k, got it serviced under warranty and manager admitted the transmission is garbage. They replaced some kind of cable or wire harness inside and completely replaced old lube and reprogrammed it. Still ok now at 100k, but I feel it doesn’t work 100% right, kind of hesitates at very low speed.Keep my fingers crossed, love the truck otherwise.
I had a brand new conversion van 1998 had 179 miles on it Dual air conditioning with TV VCR when I bought it stayed on the up keep oil changed every 3000 miles and had it serviced at 50000 miles, At 56,326 the transmission totally quit working my wife and kids were sitting at a red light in Beech Grove IN and couldn’t move ..towed it to the GMC dealership in Greenwood IN and they fixed it , $2146.31 was the total cost not counting the $150 dollar tow fee to get it there . The dealership that I purchased 8 new vehicles from took my personal check to my bank at 2:10pm and cashed to see if the check was good . Not problem on my check clearing but that GMC van was never the same , starting an upside vehicle ownership, and took forever to get out of the upside down nightmare in vehicle ownership.😢
I’ve been saying this as a dealer technician and my co workers always argue I’m wrong. Every time I get a transmission job I always notice the miles are around 100k miles though. : )
There is a valve you can buy that will send the oil to the oil cooler at a lower temp (145 vs 190). Google it, but it, and install it, it’s the best protection from this happening and it’s insanely easy to install. 20 minute job. Also, buy the cylinder deactivation delete device while your at it and save your motor. The 1-1.2mpg increase on your engine using the cylinder deactivation isn’t worth jack…
I heard a transmission guy say that the MDS system causes the torque converter to partially unlock when activated which is causing the torque converter to fail sending metal debris through the whole unit which damages the pump causing low line pressure which burns up the clutches. Just deleting the MDS system might be enough to increase transmission longevity.
Because no one flushes them after break in and they drive for 100k with all the metal shavings and clutch material from when it was brand new with a plugged filter. Service the transmission at 10k miles and again at 40k and i bet this issue would almost disappear and they would last!
Not just that but the afm/dod causing lifter failures . And Gm “coincidentally” changing the power train warranty from 100k to 60k tells you they knew it would happen.
My transmission guy said the converter comes apart on the newer gmc/chevys and trashes the whole transmission. so I had him order a billet torque converter at 64k miles and now over 100k still shifting great 🤞
The problem is with the factory thermal bypass valve. Factory valves run to hot(full open at 194f, new valve full open at 158f) -there is a service bulletin for this- burning up the converters. But Chevy/gm have always had problems with heat. Best thing a person can do is change the fluid before the recommended intervals. I change my 07 trailblazer trans fluid every fall and the trans shifts like it is new with 300k miles on it.
@@tredent4403 your doing good if its still the original transmission. Can't tell you how many trailblazers I have seen with a bad transmission. Most of them start with torque converter clutch problems
My 02 Silverado Z71 was so reliable and ran great with 175k mikes on it. Was so sad when I had to sell it since I couldn’t find parking when I moved to a big city. To this day I have dreams that I still own it. The V8 sounded so great too with instant power.
@@infinitelystoned5812 you say that if it's a bad thing. I wish they made modern vehicles with standard Transmissions. My Jeep is a 6-speed standard won't get rid of it just because of that.
PSA: "Lifetime Fill Transmission" is "Lifetime of the warranty" i.e. 100k. Failed at 113k, not surprised. Don't let any dealership or mechanic tell you you don't need to change the fluid. You do. This is for ALL brands, not just GM. Simple drain and fill is all you need (and a new filter). Put 200k on my '14 Cruze TD with a few amsoil flushes and never had an issue.
@Your-Name_ You're incredibly wrong. It's not just Chevy dealers either. I had to fight with a Toyota service advisor who insisted the transmission was factory sealed with fluid that was meant to never be changed.
@Your Name That's the service interval for older Toyota transmissions. Ones that still had a dipstick. There is no service required aside from verifying the fluid level in either the owners manual or maintenance schedule that came with the vehicle.
Drain and filter filter change, not flush, every 30k-60k miles on these will keep them running well. Mileage interval is dependent on usage and environmental conditions
That’s the best way to go, drain and filter change not flush you only do flush if there’s no filter to remove, better spend a little more and it pays in the long run, so you won’t have issues.
Thank you somebody who is using their brain! Literally all these vehicles fail because nobody takes care of them. I own a 2008 GMC Sierra 1500 SL four-door 4 x 4. 160,000 miles on the dash same transmission still shifted was getting a little slow I’m not gonna lie but ORIGINAL transmission You can still merge quick in your oh sh*t moments where you have to speed up to avoid something. Just take care of your damn cars people. That damn truck lasted me years! It’s all about Maintenance! Once again YEARS!!!!! my hairline receded while I owned in that truck not because I owned that truck because of how many damn snowstorms Summers and garbage cans that I accidentally maybe drove into. She still runs. The only major things I had to do was a power steering pump, spark plugs, wires, tie rods, tires, brakes. That’s it. But I will say she is starting to get rust bubbles on the cab corners but his truck is almost 20 years old so I’m not even gonna put it against her. That is 1/5 of your life. This truck lasted. if that doesn’t say that these are built better than what people say. Then idk what will
@@thankswezilow6794 they don’t advertise that they’re indestructible. Not saying 100k miles isn’t shorter than “normal” these days, but consumer expectations are a bit ridiculous
@Zach Hall Bro, the CEO isn't going to shake your hand for shilling. It's completely reasonable to expect a vehickle to last 200k miles, especially if you've paid 40-50-60k or more on a vehickle.
Don't ever assume that anyone selling you anything will prioritize your welfare over their own. Vehicle manufacturers are certainly not exempt from this logic. :3
my subie was brand new 2017 and sold it at 150,000(did walnut blasting, first oil change at 1000km etc) and it was tuned and it was still brand new feeling when I sold it. the idea that a tranny could go before 100k and that people would accept that is pure mental illness
There is a class section lawsuit against them I got a 06 Chevy suburban with 310,000 miles on it. I got it at 67,000 still running strong change the transmission seven years ago.
I’m at 325k on my 07 and it’s still all factory parts besides the suspension and I’ve owned it since 80k with all service records and it had never been touched before then either. The truck still runs like the day I got it and I’ll I’ve done is simple maintenance.
These can last just as long as a 4L60. The problem is they came from the factory with a bypass thermostat on the trans fluid line that forces it to have an operating temp of somewhere between 196F and 200F. That causes the torque converter failures, valve body issues, loss of gears, etc. Guys on the forums knew about it back in 2014 but word didn't get around too well I guess. GM finally released a new thermostat valve a few years ago that keeps temps down around 160F but most don't know about it. Most owners of 2014+ trucks don't even know enough to change their trans fluid every 30k or 40k miles, so not surprising they don't know about the bypass valve.
@@hochhaul does the 2004 TB transmission 4l60e have the bypass valve? I don't think so. You're saying it doesn't go through the cooler until it reaches that temp?
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 the issue I'm talking about pertains only to 2014+ GM half-tons. There is a TSB listing all affected trucks. TSB 21-NA-199
Don’t you LOVE how vehicle manufacturers literally scam people by saying their car is worth x amount, and the whole time they know in 5 years you’re going to have to fix it. They don’t make them like they used to
Ever since 2010s chevy just can't make a decent transmission anymore, if you get a 3/4 ton truck you almost can't use it to haul anything. Kinda sad how shitty they've become, at least the engines are still okay
@@Axon-bm2sx i have a 2015 silverado 2500HD with 129000 miles, pull a stock trailer full of cows and also a flatbed trailer loaded with a 14000 lb tractor often and no problems at all. Maybe mine is one of a kind but I doubt it.
Money. Transmission thermostat keeps the fluid temp way to hot and the fluid breaks down long before 100k which leads to clutch failure, tcc failure, seal failure etc
I get 350,000 miles out of my trucks. The trick is to shift manually This keeps torque converter from constantly locking and unlocking. Keep it above 2,000 rpm! I hold the record for most miles according to several dealers and transmission shops 😀
I had a 2015 all terrain 4x4.the transmission was never smooth from day one. I dumped it before it went out of warranty. oh, and the a/c died at 30000 miles.
I got 274K out of the 4l60e but on the REmans I put an external OEM magnefine filter and that noticeably improved the trans performance. Now at 288K - but nervous if I get the rpm past 5000
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885The 4160LE is a cheap transmission to rebuild or upgrade though. It is considerably cheaper. You could probably do a full upgrade for under 4k or a rebuild under 3k.
Bought my 2016 GMC Sierra 4x4 brand new. Hit 104,000 miles in May of 2024. I take care of her and do all the routine maintenance that’s required. No heavy towing or of roaring. Transmission blew up and injector went out. Just shelled out $6,000 dollars to get everything fixed. Mind boggling how crappy things are nowadays but cost an absolute fortune.
See, this is why I'm scared to replace my 02 Chevy Tahoe. I've had it for years and have 240k same engine & trans. I always say I want to get it to 250k but now I hope I never have to replace it for fear of the crap made nowadays.
My step-dad's 2012 Silverado 1500 made it about 155,000 miles before the trans blew. Thankfully he got a good deal and only spent $4600 to fix it. He's hoping the 5.3 V8 keeps going strong for a while.
You are right, I went to do a pre-purchase inspection with a customer, we looked at 6 different suburbans and tahoes all around 100k miles and all of them had their transmission replaced at least once
@@danielbec4287this is a fact , went Yukon/tahoe shopping in March of 2021 and 2 or 3 of the ones i test drove they kept using it as a selling point to let me know the transmission was brand new
Just had wife’s 2017 Yukon transmission rebuilt at 110k. At 85k had to replace radiator and transmission in my 2020 dually. My 2007 Yukon xl went 250k and the lifters went out. 2006 H2 with 350k still running strong.
2006 H2 has the good ol’ 6.0 Vortec if I remember correctly. It’s no wonder it’s been so damn good to you. Those old GM truck engines are pretty much invincible.
My 2013 sierra I got with 70k miles I have done the maintenance on time since I got it it now has 167k miles and the transmission has never slipped or given me any problems, I have a 2 hour commute to work and back home and it has never failed me.
Luckily my parents never traded in their 2005 suburban, from 98-05 they traded it in almost every year. Hers only has like 120k miles on it today so hopefully it'll last for them
Toyota isn't any better. The 2016+ Tacoma was such junk that die hard Taco fans nicknamed the 3rd gen "the turd gen" and consumer reports rated it least reliable midsize truck for like 3 or 4 years in a row. The 2022+ Tundra has engine failures left and right. LSPI is a common issue with engines with a lot of boost and an oil consumption issue. LSPI eventually cracks pistons and destroys crank bearings... which are the common pattern of failure with the new 3.4L TT engine in the new Tundra. Even the Honda Ridgeline has major issues with transmission issues. The torque converter eventually fails if the trans fluid isn't changed often enough -- Honda recommends every 30k miles. Ironically, if GM trucks ow ers changed their transmission fluid that often, those 6 speeds would last twice as long as they currently do, although the updated transmission cooler bypass valve is the part that needs to be installed to prevent GM 6-speeds from destroying themselves but most people are blissfully unaware.
@@hochhaul First there's a reason why toyota & honda outsell all the other manufacturers combined because they make practical vehicles that work. Newer tech has issues, especially smaller engines with turbo technology. But even with the issues, they still stand way above GM & Chrysler & have made several models that have surpassed a million miles on the road that are still running. Please name some american models that have surpassed a million miles & are still running, I'll wait ...
Ironic how it would seem, more times than not, that these transmissions seems ot have similar and or recurring problem around that mileage mark. One could then make a suggestion that it is baked right into the code. Makes one wonder if all vehicle manufactures haven't done similar things. Find it ironic how many claim their vehicle starts acting up, throwing codes, within a year or two of the Warranty being up. Obviously not every single one, but enough, a percent, that gets enough people back into these High Overhead Dealerships to make minor repairs, or trade it in on a shiny new one to start the process all over again.
Had 160,000 on our 2017 company suburban when it was traded for a 2023 Yukon XL. We must have gotten lucky. Literally had zero problems with the suburban from new until it was traded in. Just oil changes and tires. Have 46,000 miles on the Yukon now with zero problems.
Big Chevy fan here wouldn't drive anything else, but my dad and mom bought a used 2017 Chevy Suburban from a dealer with 117 thousand miles on it in. Less than three weeks of owning it the transmission went out. So unfortunately this is accurate.
Crazy how things have changed! Mopar was the one's that had the bad rep about bad transmissions. Now it's the other way around. It's better to buy a Mopar! Just buy you Ram!
@@ryanhoffman5477 I just made a comment. My company bought 6 2018 2500 brand new. Besides the dozen recalls we have had to replace three trannies and a host of other parts. First tranny was replaced at 28k miles. Sorry but dodge nor Ford who is my choice is no better. Every manufacturer sucks nuts these days sad to say
Funny thing abt an automatic. If the fluid has never been touched & hasn’t been driven hard, you have till 100k to change it out. Anything after 110 you’ll start to notice bad stuff in shifting or suddenly getting transmission codes.
I bought a 2005 Chevy 2500 van, Germain Chevy in Columbus, Ohio, 9-5-2005. I drove it as a delivery driver 391,053 miles. I personally did my own oil changes every 10,000 miles.
I pull a 14’ enclosed work trailer on average every 10 days. Material and scaffolding plus trailer weight, 3,000lbs? Average 10-30 miles pulling the trailer to job sites.
My dads 2010 F-350 with the 6.4 diesel had the original transmission and he had 300,000 miles on that truck. The first 6.4 motor blew due to a manufacturing defect. Got a new motor put in. I miss that truck. He sold it. It was such a bad ass plow truck.
I'm a professional transmission technician and the 6L80 and 6L90 have become our bread and butter. One major issue is the how the torque converter is made. It can't handle the heat and over time "pops" which takes out the rest of the transmission. It's called job security for me lol
Yep that’s why they came out with the newer transmission valve that sends oil to the cooler at 145 vs 190. Literally the first thing I did to my Suburban to keep the temp down.
@@919hornet4me We do this in the Middle East on 2010 to 2020 models The valve helps but not always enough to keep the temp down No fan, just an auxiliary transmission radiator I think GM added an auxiliary transmission radiation on 2021
Replaced my 2016 Tahoe transmission at 54k miles, the warranty company kindly shipped in a defective Trans replaced 800 miles later. 3rd transmission worked. So we'll see how long this lasts
Ya, my 2018 sierra had 290 k and it ran like a clock. It’s all about how people drive them. There are a lot of things that can tear up your transmission.
This is why i keep all my old vehicles and maintain them myself as much as possible. 2006 4runner 210k miles, 1999 and 1998 Jeep XJ 140 and 134k miles, and my newest addition 1988 Jeep Comanche 300k miles. All of em cost alot less than a single POS new vehicle thats good for 100k.
But then they wouldn’t be able to get 10 speeds. When the hell did we start needing all these different speeds when these new vehicles put out way more h.p. and torque.
6 gear manuals are the norm these days I have a 2014 vauxhall mokka (Buick Encore) 150k on the clock not had to change fluid yet. Pulls like a train but it does have the 1.7 cdti Isuzu engine.
I actually bought a 05 with the intention of manual swap they are the last gen to have factory manuals so you can get factory parts it's actually been parked due to 3rd gear slip in the 4l60e on its 3rd transmission and to be fair I have 35" tires and a lead foot only got 40k out of this last rebuild my 1ton 83 GMC 454 4x4 th400 original transmission 40 years and still going strong 💪😎
My dad got a 2018 tahoe with 155,000 miles and it runs sill like new so it’s not all the newer cars it’s that people don’t take care of them and change the oil when they need to.
People can try to say these do not the issues but here's a story. So i know 4 people that are clos to me with 2014-18 1/2 ton GM trucks. All of them had transmission issues in under 110k miles. None were used to tow heavy or very often. one failed at 45k, 70k, 108k and the other was a little over 100k. All of them traded them in on Fords...not that they do not have issues but nothing as consistent as those amount of transmission failures and lifter problems.
My friends 2016 GMC Sierras transmission started slipping really bad at 121 thousand miles. I have a 2015 Ford F-150 crew cab platinum with over 165 thousand miles on it, and it runs like a champ. It’s funny because me and my friend had this little friendly debate going on about who’s truck is going to break down sooner. To be honest, I didn’t expect his truck to actually break down on him.
My pops has a 09 Tundra with 200K miles and he’s had no problems with the engine or transmission. People sleep on them heavy, yeah they don’t ride or look the best, but they last forever.
Tundras are a good option if you don’t have much money but if you can afford a ford they are nice for quite some time my 2015 expedition I bought used has been a dream for the 30k miles I’ve owned it it has 107k and couldn’t be better
My 2012 GMC Sierra 2500HD transmission broke down right at 102K miles. Took it the transmission shop and behold. There were at least 20 plus GM vehicles with transmission issues. The owner of the shop stated that GM vehicles keep them busy throughout the year.
Completely true. I work at a transmission shop. They are all junk anymore. Ive done some with even lower miles. People need to do transmission service about every 30 k. Or less. You cant over service these new transmissions
Depends on what transmission it is. We do not have a flush machine. So what we do is drain and fills. If you are able to change filter. You should. Be carful where you get your filter from. I would only buy from dealer. Aftermarket filters can cause issues. Also only use specified fluid. Most your front wheel drive cars you cannot change the filter without pulling the trans and splitting the case. Because of this and i personal believe the fluids break down faster then what the manufacturers say they do is why i say to change at least every 30 thousand.
@@robertohashem the dealer put 8 quarts back in after a pan drop/filter change that took out 6 quarts at most. So I took it to Victorylane for a flush - the confirmed there was 3 quarts too much. But the transmission only latest 30K more - and total failure at 273K. It's only rated to 275K for the 4l60e - so my attempt to extend the life was futile. hahahaha. Now I'm scared to go over 5000 rpm on the Remans but I put on an external Magnefine OEM filter - and immediately the shifting was smoother. Also GM put out a TSB to add a 2nd magnet or a bigger magnet. And yeah I've read people having serious issues changing their filters - so I'd rather just change out the external filter and inline magnet ever 15K miles.
@@edwardvalencia291drain and filter change for most modern vehicles these days. Flushing modern transmissions can burn up solenoids and force debris into areas that causes problems.
They were listed on severe RUclips sites of vehicles to avoid. That’s about when they put the new 8 speed transmission. I believe there is a Class Action suit against GM. You should look into that. Wishing you all the best.
A lot of those sites say to avoid every vehicle on the road. You need to take that stuff with a grain of salt and do your own research. Best place to look is the forums. That’s where everyone goes to complain and you’ll really see the scope of the problem.
General Motors needs to realize the magnitude of the situation. As my father was, I am a Chevrolet guy. My son wants to buy a Chevrolet truck. I have convinced friends into buying Chevrolet trucks. As long as this goes on, they lose deep generational loyalty from their most important customers. They need to make this right.
There's ways more than just transmissions,timing chain,I could go on butt/they're cutting corners too line line thier pockets!Recalls is definitely in order my amigos 🧐
I had a 2013 Sierra & at 95k miles it dropped a lifter. Warranty was supposed to be bumper to bumper for 100k, they wouldn't cover it. I sent it back to the bank. They wanted $12,000 to replace the 5.3 engine.
I do transmission + differential oil changes every 25-30k miles. Been nothing but smooth sailing. Use good oil and do it often. Don't run the truck to 100K miles with the same oil and then complain why the transmission went out 😂 a lot has to do on how you maintain your vehicle.
I have two 2017 express 2500. Both had a minimum of three trans services. Both puked at exactly 150k miles. Both were driven by employees who drive like senior citizens. It's NOT a coincidence. While I drive a 2006 Chevy Express 3500 with 350k miles. Original engine and trans. Still strong as hell!!!! New Chevy trans ARE TRASH!!!
People tow a lot without turning on the tow mode. Because it doesn't feel like it's having a hard time pulling and wants to shift, people use that sixth gear for better mileage. The down side is overheating the clutches and burning the fluid.
My 05 doesn’t feel right when in tow mode. I haul my 5x8 with 2 mowers. Both fairly light. Idk why but I just hate the feeling of it. Maybe it’s supposed to feel like that in tow mode. Idk. Not a mechanic guy.
@@toddamtmann3528 let me re word. It feels “different” maybe that’s how it’s supposed to feel. With it being an 05 I was worried about it causing damage.
Bro same thing happened to my 2016 Yukon slt 😤 I have pictures of the truck still and yeah it needed a new transmission at 103k miles. I was so confused how this truck needs a new transmission already 😤. I have a 1996 Tahoe and a 1998 gmc Yukon slt ! The same Yukon different year! And those 90’s truck still run good at 150k and 130k miles!! And they’re 25 years old! I’m shook of wtf happened with GM. It makes me not wanna buy another newer vehicle anymore. 😒
Im at 92k. You’re completely wrong because I cant afford a new transmission
@Simr Khera excuse me?
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Lol. It's why I drive a toyota, sure it's boring but it's always reliable
Keep the fluid changed and you got a good chance at it not breaking.
@@CeeZee001 I wouldn't necessarily call them boring, just too common for me to pay much attention to when one drives by. You can make any car fun.
I used to work in the GM shop, there was one tech dedicated to swapping transmissions, all day every day
You’re saying he put the “T” in LGBT?
Don’t all dealers have dedicated transmission mechanics?
@@MaxumizedGood one!
@@someonethatwatchesyoutube2953 a lot if not most shops divide the work evenly amongst the workers. but if plenty of people come in reporting the same issue, why waste time and efficiency when you can just have the best guy to focus on this issue. Im sure the the transmission tech has also been at the shop for a while
As a GM transmission tech, I feel attacked 🤣🤣
GM got billions from taxpayers in bailouts during the bankruptcy and this is the thanks we got?
It was all repaid also
They paid it back with interest Einstein
@@wurly164 Well that and their cars used to start falling apart at about 60k miles. Engines, Transmission, etc. So 100k to a transmission change is a vast improvement.
@@phillipmartinez2436 Still unacceptable
Those were just meant to be funneled through the unions and into Democrat campaign fundraisers.
Can we file a class action lawsuit? This has been a known issue for years
It's an ongoing class action suit for this as well as back to 2010
@@craigstreetzel7743 What a joke. Making me embarrassed to say I like Chevy.
@@craigstreetzel7743lol shit before that. I’ve been through plenty of 4l60s in my 06. I’ve stepped up to the 4l80 and that’s been great.
There are some
@@craigstreetzel7743I think you're referring to the AFM/DOD lawsuit.
They don’t want you driving the same truck for 400k anymore they want it to break as soon as possible
But they charge for a 400000 mile vehicle.
It’s all about the money boys.
They want it to break shortly after it is out of warranty.
@@ReeveHelalV yep. They are designed to fail on their schedule not yours.
@@superunknown8645 it’s always been about the money 😂
It's called planned obsolescence. They perfected it to break down immediately after the 100,000 powertrain warranty expires
It’s pretty common in the tech world, so with newer cars being more tech-oriented it makes sense that automakers would start doing the same. Just sucks for the consumers who purchase their junk
@@MikeAnvil this actually started way back in the 50's its just taken 50 years.we used to laugh at brands like deawoo and kia,now Korea sells us back our scrap metal and calls it a car.
How I wish you were joking.
@Mike Anvil don't purchase their junk and stick to pre 2015 vehicles
They don’t even need to “plan” all the newer ones have cell tower connections. Gm can literally send the brick code whenever they’d like. All newer cars have to force the EVs out.
My 2019 literally just went out right over 100,000 miles. I heard there's a class action lawsuit I'm looking into. It
We also have a 2019 and at 106,000 miles the transmission is making a bad grinding sound. I posted a short on it on my channel.
Damn I am sorry dude just try to find a good shop and and a good warranty on the new one. I didn't have a choice. Got the transmission for about four and another stack to throw it in I didn't have a choice. Some places have financing that doesn't affect your credit just a small loan might not cover the entire cost but better than putting up all your money at this point, I'm just gonn ride till the wheels fall off .If I would've traded it in, I would've owed more than I would've spent on the transmission basically restarting my note .I forgot to mention I literally just paid it off like six months before this happened so don't feel to bad man, I wanted to efffin cry 😂
@@volcom305670 Sadly, I don't think the lawsuit applies to ours because it's a 10 speed. The biggest expense for us would be the rebuild or a new transmission, because we can pull it out and put it in ourselves.
Mine 2022 just lost the trans at 109k. $7k to replace
You will be lucky to get $60 in the class action. Class action lawsuits are such bullshit. All the money goes to the lawyers and court fees and very little goes to the consumers that are effected by it
They've perfected the breakdowns to occur as soon as warranties expire 😂
truer words have never been spoken
And they got nerve to be charging 70k+ for them now. You won’t even pay it off before this problem happens.
70k for pretty plastic 😂
70k? In what world. 35k tops.
@@squarebodyseth5986 have you even looked at GM prices? Lol theyre the luxury brand of Chevy, they usually start around 60k. $35k sure if youre buying a 2014 or ‘15 with 125k miles on it with an already rebuilt trans😂
@@imcrux6583 Yeah i own one lmao. Rather buy one with a rebuild then a factory. But as long as you hit the Torque converter before it starts giving issues theyre golden but you gotta watch for them lifters. Tourqe converter and a DOD delete and these things are pretty good. Shouldnt have to do upgrades to make it a reliable daily but it is what it is. I bought for 35k at 70thousand i put 70 on it, put a tourque converter in and flushed with amsoil as soon as i bought it, just changed it recently. Dont let my name fool you i somehow switched up over the years.
@@squarebodyseth5986 see, thats stupid as hell. No one should be buying a $60k+ vehicle and then have to swap out or service their torque converters basically as soon as they get it. Thats not good business
GM stopped caring in the mid 2000s. That's why its happening. Most of their customers don't care that GM stopped caring.
They stopped caring in late 90's in passenger cars. And trucks in mid 00s
Ford doesn't care it's the same on both sides
2005 when they put afm in their silverados
After the bailout they stopped caring
Rick wagoner was the reason for the rise and the strength of 2007 and earlier now the new ceo is terrible
He speaks the truth, right after my 2018 suburban hit 100,000 miles the torque converter blew and wrecked the transmission, total rebuild. The vehicle was not abused or driven rough.
I can confirm. We have a bunch of them in our fleet. It's actually the torque converter that breaks down and sends crap in to the transmission. Therefore the transmission goes out. The first tell tale is a very light jerking or pulsing as you go down the highway at regular speed and try to speed up just slightly to pass another vehicle.
Dang, wish I would have known that with my used Camaro ended up replacing the transmission a few weeks ago
Holy shit my 17 Sierra is doing it on the highway, you barely notice it but if I don’t accelerate hard enough and just barely touch the pedal I can feel that little pulse or jerk, it’s very light right now. But damn I don’t want to spend 5k on a new trans , truck only has 138,000 miles! fuck
@@eugeneabreut960just happened to me on my 2016 1500 , with 86k
@@bradkvick1382 In the 2000 thru 2005 Chevy Impala the transmissions have gear clutches that wear out. The same transmissions were also installed in many Buick products from the same time period. Our GM Buick dealers service department said they all have the same problem. Our GM dealer also keeps these transmissions in stock at their parts department because they fail all the time.
He’s right. I work at a GM dealership and transmission jobs keep us in business.
Do you tell your customers before they buy this information?
Save money by cutting corners at the factory, make money on crap vehicles at the service counter.
@@dcaustx I don’t sell cars. I fix them when they break. Do you expect companies to tell you why you shouldn’t buy their products?
@@andrewsang4688 unfortunately that is the business model of most manufacturers nowadays my friend
My broke at 15k on my 21 chevy truck
This is why I keep my older vehicles
The Jews who made this the norm to have cars or anything really break down after a certain length of time will come after you nonetheless.
Wont buy a new car? We'll make older vehicles be against the law to own because of new climate change regulations.
You will own nothing. And you will be happy.
Or just dont by GM. But enjoy your antiques.
@galactictomato1434
Or Ford or Chrysler
@@TrumpDoesntWipefords old trucks shit on all the others😂
You can rebuild & restore the biggest piece of crap for 1/3 the price of a modern truck.
Totally agree. Yep they don’t make them like they used to.
A lot of people throw it into drive before you come to a complete stop after reversing.
That never affected the older transmissions. They were designed to keep them from being damaged from that. Why is it all of a sudden a problem?
@mobregonjr They still had the problems with the transmissions back in the day. It's just that we have new materials and different ways to implement it.
Can confirm. The transmission in my 17’ Yukon left me stranded at 126k, which was actually longer than it was designed to last.
my 15' tahoe has 198k with original transmission
Did you do regular maintenance?
Why did you get a vehicle that is designed to break under 126k. Poor investment
@@dcgeeked8917u and all 3 people in the continental us who kept it longer than 30k miles instead of trading for a new one and doubling ur debt every 2 years
@@jessemartinez4601 we never did maintenance on our transmission. We have a 2002 expedition and we have 200,000 miles haha. Some transmissions are just built better than others lol. Older cars just last longer lol.
The transmission itself is usually fine until the torque converter goes. If you catch the torque converter failing early, most people can save the transmission by just replacing that part with a stronger aftermarket one. Once the torque converter goes the whole transmission eats shrapnel.
Good idea, pay 70k dollars for something and then have to buy a part for it to work right. Makes sense
Yep my nephew had problems with a brand new 2019 8 speed
@@claytonsmith6092 well let's place at least some of the blame on the consumer that trusts fluid friction to move their vehicles forward and backwards. The people who make rational decisions still drive trucks from the 90s with clutch friction because they are cheaper to maintain past 100k miles
@@calebz1448 - If all of America chose to drive '90s trucks with manuals, there wouldn't be any on the market and there is barely any on the market right now. Autos have been around for a long time.
Transmission 8spd. on my ‘16 Escalade started to shatter around 60k, got it serviced under warranty and manager admitted the transmission is garbage. They replaced some kind of cable or wire harness inside and completely replaced old lube and reprogrammed it. Still ok now at 100k, but I feel it doesn’t work 100% right, kind of hesitates at very low speed.Keep my fingers crossed, love the truck otherwise.
I had a brand new conversion van 1998 had 179 miles on it Dual air conditioning with TV VCR when I bought it stayed on the up keep oil changed every 3000 miles and had it serviced at 50000 miles, At 56,326 the transmission totally quit working my wife and kids were sitting at a red light in Beech Grove IN and couldn’t move ..towed it to the GMC dealership in Greenwood IN and they fixed it , $2146.31 was the total cost not counting the $150 dollar tow fee to get it there . The dealership that I purchased 8 new vehicles from took my personal check to my bank at 2:10pm and cashed to see if the check was good . Not problem on my check clearing but that GMC van was never the same , starting an upside vehicle ownership, and took forever to get out of the upside down nightmare in vehicle ownership.😢
The shop that rebuilt my transmission said if they don’t do at least 4 a week , something is wrong!!!
I’ve been saying this as a dealer technician and my co workers always argue I’m wrong. Every time I get a transmission job I always notice the miles are around 100k miles though. : )
There is a valve you can buy that will send the oil to the oil cooler at a lower temp (145 vs 190). Google it, but it, and install it, it’s the best protection from this happening and it’s insanely easy to install. 20 minute job. Also, buy the cylinder deactivation delete device while your at it and save your motor. The 1-1.2mpg increase on your engine using the cylinder deactivation isn’t worth jack…
AFM , number one reason engines go bad these days.
Service tranny every 30 to 50 k and run Real synthetic and my bet it will last...got 325 on my last 95 Astro.
This is facts people! 👆
This and the 6 bolt gm converter. Drain and fill with a filter every 50k. They’ll last a long time.
I heard a transmission guy say that the MDS system causes the torque converter to partially unlock when activated which is causing the torque converter to fail sending metal debris through the whole unit which damages the pump causing low line pressure which burns up the clutches. Just deleting the MDS system might be enough to increase transmission longevity.
Because no one flushes them after break in and they drive for 100k with all the metal shavings and clutch material from when it was brand new with a plugged filter. Service the transmission at 10k miles and again at 40k and i bet this issue would almost disappear and they would last!
Only sane comment
Yup same with all newer transmissions service them every 30k. Filter new gasket and fluid simple. People think these transmission are fill for life. 😂
Not just that but the afm/dod causing lifter failures . And Gm “coincidentally” changing the power train warranty from 100k to 60k tells you they knew it would happen.
Just seen a news article saying that a class action lawsuit has been approved for 2014 to 2019 gm transmission being faulty from factory.
Should have been 2011
To 2019
The lawyers get rich, and we receive a $30 check
No you didn't.
@kefsn1374 if you don't google Speerly v. GM, you won't find it, lol
YEP!👍
My transmission guy said the converter comes apart on the newer gmc/chevys and trashes the whole transmission. so I had him order a billet torque converter at 64k miles and now over 100k still shifting great 🤞
We have a 16 suburban
You are correct. It is all the converter ruining all of them. They all are the same
The problem is with the factory thermal bypass valve. Factory valves run to hot(full open at 194f, new valve full open at 158f) -there is a service bulletin for this- burning up the converters. But Chevy/gm have always had problems with heat. Best thing a person can do is change the fluid before the recommended intervals. I change my 07 trailblazer trans fluid every fall and the trans shifts like it is new with 300k miles on it.
I heard that same thing about the old 4l60Es do they just use the same converters for everything since 97?
@@tredent4403 your doing good if its still the original transmission. Can't tell you how many trailblazers I have seen with a bad transmission. Most of them start with torque converter clutch problems
146k on our Yukon with original transmission.
What year?
My 2008 GMC Acadia is a piece of shit since I got it. Transmission has been a real problem don’t buy a GMC Acadia 😡😡😡
Never getting rid of my 2000 Silverado. She’s still going strong.
same here...02 silverado, and 05 Suburban. Still going strong. Never had a major issue.
My 02 Silverado Z71 was so reliable and ran great with 175k mikes on it. Was so sad when I had to sell it since I couldn’t find parking when I moved to a big city. To this day I have dreams that I still own it. The V8 sounded so great too with instant power.
My 2000 is fine, but its a stick/manual trans
96 Silverado 2500. Although I am putting a new engine in it.
@@infinitelystoned5812 you say that if it's a bad thing. I wish they made modern vehicles with standard Transmissions. My Jeep is a 6-speed standard won't get rid of it just because of that.
PSA: "Lifetime Fill Transmission" is "Lifetime of the warranty" i.e. 100k. Failed at 113k, not surprised. Don't let any dealership or mechanic tell you you don't need to change the fluid. You do. This is for ALL brands, not just GM. Simple drain and fill is all you need (and a new filter). Put 200k on my '14 Cruze TD with a few amsoil flushes and never had an issue.
preach
Yup. Lifetime fluid will last the entire lifetime of the transmission, a lifetime which ends when it fails due to the fluid never getting changed.
@@Your-Name_They do call it lifetime fluid had to basically force my chevrolet dealer to change my 2012 equinox they did no problems
@Your-Name_ You're incredibly wrong. It's not just Chevy dealers either. I had to fight with a Toyota service advisor who insisted the transmission was factory sealed with fluid that was meant to never be changed.
@Your Name That's the service interval for older Toyota transmissions. Ones that still had a dipstick. There is no service required aside from verifying the fluid level in either the owners manual or maintenance schedule that came with the vehicle.
My transmission guy said you should change the transmission fluid every 20k miles or so to avoid this issue!
💯 true 👍🏼
Drain and filter filter change, not flush, every 30k-60k miles on these will keep them running well. Mileage interval is dependent on usage and environmental conditions
That’s the best way to go, drain and filter change not flush you only do flush if there’s no filter to remove, better spend a little more and it pays in the long run, so you won’t have issues.
Thank you somebody who is using their brain! Literally all these vehicles fail because nobody takes care of them. I own a 2008 GMC Sierra 1500 SL four-door 4 x 4. 160,000 miles on the dash same transmission still shifted was getting a little slow I’m not gonna lie but ORIGINAL transmission You can still merge quick in your oh sh*t moments where you have to speed up to avoid something. Just take care of your damn cars people. That damn truck lasted me years! It’s all about Maintenance! Once again YEARS!!!!! my hairline receded while I owned in that truck not because I owned that truck because of how many damn snowstorms Summers and garbage cans that I accidentally maybe drove into. She still runs. The only major things I had to do was a power steering pump, spark plugs, wires, tie rods, tires,
brakes. That’s it. But I will say she is starting to get rust bubbles on the cab corners but his truck is almost 20 years old so I’m not even gonna put it against her. That is 1/5 of your life. This truck lasted. if that doesn’t say that these are built better than what people say. Then idk what will
I bet he gives you a real “good deal” on those yearly fluid changes too.
They hate when you keep it real
Ford, Nissan, Chevy, etc all need to be held accountable, and should hold 100% financial responsibility
What other products do you own that are guaranteed for 20 years?
@@BabyGators may be its the advertising failed to mention this
@@thankswezilow6794 they don’t advertise that they’re indestructible. Not saying 100k miles isn’t shorter than “normal” these days, but consumer expectations are a bit ridiculous
@Zach Hall Bro, the CEO isn't going to shake your hand for shilling. It's completely reasonable to expect a vehickle to last 200k miles, especially if you've paid 40-50-60k or more on a vehickle.
@@GAMMA_AF reading the warranty is "shilling" now...?
GTFO lol
Nobody makes a quality part anymore. It's quantity over quality.
Don't ever assume that anyone selling you anything will prioritize your welfare over their own.
Vehicle manufacturers are certainly not exempt from this logic. :3
my subie was brand new 2017 and sold it at 150,000(did walnut blasting, first oil change at 1000km etc) and it was tuned and it was still brand new feeling when I sold it. the idea that a tranny could go before 100k and that people would accept that is pure mental illness
Toyota makes the best trucks. Facts
Nobody in the US* makes a quality part anymore. Those Japanese trucks are damn near immortal.
@@ryanespinoza7297 toyota makes trucks in the US
There is a class section lawsuit against them I got a 06 Chevy suburban with 310,000 miles on it. I got it at 67,000 still running strong change the transmission seven years ago.
I’m at 325k on my 07 and it’s still all factory parts besides the suspension and I’ve owned it since 80k with all service records and it had never been touched before then either. The truck still runs like the day I got it and I’ll I’ve done is simple maintenance.
Pre bail out Chevy. Those were the good years.
When did you first change your trans fluid and how often do you change the fluid and filter?
No more bailouts for these auto companies. They deserve to fail.
Only GM was bailed out. Chrysler merged with Fiat & Ford was helped by their partner company Jaguar!
@Scott Pearce If any of them come to us taxpayers with cup in hand, the answer should be no.
@@milesblue638 same with Ukraine
@@directorbeau Nothing like Ukraine.
@@directorbeau damn right brother. Start fixing our own land and people before sticking our nose is everyone’s business.
I absolutely love my 91 GM pick up, just got the transmission rebuilt at 289k miles
Now she is ready for another 300k
💪🏾🤠
These can last just as long as a 4L60. The problem is they came from the factory with a bypass thermostat on the trans fluid line that forces it to have an operating temp of somewhere between 196F and 200F. That causes the torque converter failures, valve body issues, loss of gears, etc. Guys on the forums knew about it back in 2014 but word didn't get around too well I guess. GM finally released a new thermostat valve a few years ago that keeps temps down around 160F but most don't know about it. Most owners of 2014+ trucks don't even know enough to change their trans fluid every 30k or 40k miles, so not surprising they don't know about the bypass valve.
@@hochhaul does the 2004 TB transmission 4l60e have the bypass valve? I don't think so. You're saying it doesn't go through the cooler until it reaches that temp?
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 the issue I'm talking about pertains only to 2014+ GM half-tons. There is a TSB listing all affected trucks. TSB 21-NA-199
Yeah but that engine aint
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 I'm talking about the 6L80.
That's always been an issue with GM transmissions, all of them.
My '05 CatEye has 250,922 miles on the original motor, trans, diff and trans case! 💪😎
We've been swapping a transmission in a 14-18 GM truck at least once every two weeks for the past 3 years or so 🤣
Don’t you LOVE how vehicle manufacturers literally scam people by saying their car is worth x amount, and the whole time they know in 5 years you’re going to have to fix it. They don’t make them like they used to
@@iM_x_BadAsxx I really don't subscribe the idea that the vehicles are designed to fail. Just poorly engineered IMO
For a while we were doing 3 6 speeds a week
You lying through your teeth. When your story change. It was never true from the start.
@@joshb6760 what in the world are you talking about
I'm a Chevy guy, and I actually believe this.
Ever since 2010s chevy just can't make a decent transmission anymore, if you get a 3/4 ton truck you almost can't use it to haul anything. Kinda sad how shitty they've become, at least the engines are still okay
Good cause it’s reality
And we can't use the joke "nothing wrong with a dodge that a Chevy transmission can't fix" anymore
@Axon0081 they can they just don't choose too heck the 4l60e usually made 200k+ miles
@@Axon-bm2sx i have a 2015 silverado 2500HD with 129000 miles, pull a stock trailer full of cows and also a flatbed trailer loaded with a 14000 lb tractor often and no problems at all. Maybe mine is one of a kind but I doubt it.
155,000 on my gmc….still going strong.
Money. Transmission thermostat keeps the fluid temp way to hot and the fluid breaks down long before 100k which leads to clutch failure, tcc failure, seal failure etc
Yep, my 2015 just went out at 96,000.
Great feeling.
I get 350,000 miles out of my trucks.
The trick is to shift manually
This keeps torque converter from constantly locking and unlocking. Keep it above 2,000 rpm!
I hold the record for most miles according to several dealers and transmission shops 😀
@@ProctorsGamble 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 hopefully nobody listens to you, jokester.
I had a 2015 all terrain 4x4.the transmission was never smooth from day one. I dumped it before it went out of warranty. oh, and the a/c died at 30000 miles.
@@nignoggotya You must be a transmission shop or Chevy garage owner.
@@ProctorsGamble let me know how that works on a truck thats not 20 years old, or maybe just get a truck that can handle towing without riding gears?
2004 was a great year for gmc !! One of the best quality years for the Yukon
Any car company from that era
The GMT800 from 99-07 were the last great American trucks.
My 2003 Denali still going strong at 223k.
I got 274K out of the 4l60e but on the REmans I put an external OEM magnefine filter and that noticeably improved the trans performance. Now at 288K - but nervous if I get the rpm past 5000
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885The 4160LE is a cheap transmission to rebuild or upgrade though. It is considerably cheaper. You could probably do a full upgrade for under 4k or a rebuild under 3k.
Bought my 2016 GMC Sierra 4x4 brand new. Hit 104,000 miles in May of 2024. I take care of her and do all the routine maintenance that’s required. No heavy towing or of roaring. Transmission blew up and injector went out. Just shelled out $6,000 dollars to get everything fixed. Mind boggling how crappy things are nowadays but cost an absolute fortune.
They build quantity NOT quality. Quality is a waste of money for all big corporations!!
See, this is why I'm scared to replace my 02 Chevy Tahoe. I've had it for years and have 240k same engine & trans. I always say I want to get it to 250k but now I hope I never have to replace it for fear of the crap made nowadays.
Get them rebuilt its cheaper and more reliable
Keep her 😊 i got 292k on my 2003 Avalanche original transmission made it too 290k 😇
Old is better! 09 silverado with 345k.. original motor and trans. Still going strong
@@roll4758how much is it to rebuild a trans from the 2002 era
Keep it.
Another reason why I like the late 90s to mid 2000’s Chevy and GM trucks because they are super reliable
So many, still on the road too...
Crazy, I ran across this. My 2012 trans Silverado went out at 97k. Just purchased a 2020 just hrs ago.
My step-dad's 2012 Silverado 1500 made it about 155,000 miles before the trans blew. Thankfully he got a good deal and only spent $4600 to fix it. He's hoping the 5.3 V8 keeps going strong for a while.
You are right, I went to do a pre-purchase inspection with a customer, we looked at 6 different suburbans and tahoes all around 100k miles and all of them had their transmission replaced at least once
What???
@@danielbec4287this is a fact , went Yukon/tahoe shopping in March of 2021 and 2 or 3 of the ones i test drove they kept using it as a selling point to let me know the transmission was brand new
Interesting!
Just had wife’s 2017 Yukon transmission rebuilt at 110k. At 85k had to replace radiator and transmission in my 2020 dually. My 2007 Yukon xl went 250k and the lifters went out. 2006 H2 with 350k still running strong.
That H2 has probably burned over $100k in gas lol.
2006 H2 has the good ol’ 6.0 Vortec if I remember correctly. It’s no wonder it’s been so damn good to you. Those old GM truck engines are pretty much invincible.
LandCruiser - hold my beer
My 2013 sierra I got with 70k miles I have done the maintenance on time since I got it it now has 167k miles and the transmission has never slipped or given me any problems, I have a 2 hour commute to work and back home and it has never failed me.
Luckily my parents never traded in their 2005 suburban, from 98-05 they traded it in almost every year. Hers only has like 120k miles on it today so hopefully it'll last for them
That's why I bought a manual, it's a shame they stopped making them shortly after I got mine, 2015 manual
I try to avoid autos, my current car is a 21 civic type r 6 speed manual
@@oil1252 Awesome car to own
@@oil1252 they are ONLY available in a manual??!! erase your comment, it don't belong in this thread.
I bought a new 2019 GMC Canyon with a (6) speed manual. The manual trans was discontinued around the time I purchased the vehicle !
@@rosspbarnett458 for the Cruze they stopped making them around 2018, you likely got one of the last gm manuals
American manufacturers should be ashamed.
Toyota isn't any better. The 2016+ Tacoma was such junk that die hard Taco fans nicknamed the 3rd gen "the turd gen" and consumer reports rated it least reliable midsize truck for like 3 or 4 years in a row. The 2022+ Tundra has engine failures left and right. LSPI is a common issue with engines with a lot of boost and an oil consumption issue. LSPI eventually cracks pistons and destroys crank bearings... which are the common pattern of failure with the new 3.4L TT engine in the new Tundra. Even the Honda Ridgeline has major issues with transmission issues. The torque converter eventually fails if the trans fluid isn't changed often enough -- Honda recommends every 30k miles. Ironically, if GM trucks ow ers changed their transmission fluid that often, those 6 speeds would last twice as long as they currently do, although the updated transmission cooler bypass valve is the part that needs to be installed to prevent GM 6-speeds from destroying themselves but most people are blissfully unaware.
@@hochhaul First there's a reason why toyota & honda outsell all the other manufacturers combined because they make practical vehicles that work. Newer tech has issues, especially smaller engines with turbo technology. But even with the issues, they still stand way above GM & Chrysler & have made several models that have surpassed a million miles on the road that are still running.
Please name some american models that have surpassed a million miles & are still running, I'll wait ...
@@tonelocrianbros got Japanese shlong in his mouth
Well👏🏾mf👏🏾said👏🏾💯💯💯
toyota and honda are so incredibly boring id rather buy a new GM car every year than have the same toyota until i die@@tonelocrian
Ironic how it would seem, more times than not, that these transmissions seems ot have similar and or recurring problem around that mileage mark.
One could then make a suggestion that it is baked right into the code.
Makes one wonder if all vehicle manufactures haven't done similar things.
Find it ironic how many claim their vehicle starts acting up, throwing codes, within a year or two of the Warranty being up.
Obviously not every single one, but enough, a percent, that gets enough people back into these High Overhead Dealerships to make minor repairs, or trade it in on a shiny new one to start the process all over again.
Had 160,000 on our 2017 company suburban when it was traded for a 2023 Yukon XL. We must have gotten lucky. Literally had zero problems with the suburban from new until it was traded in. Just oil changes and tires. Have 46,000 miles on the Yukon now with zero problems.
Big Chevy fan here wouldn't drive anything else, but my dad and mom bought a used 2017 Chevy Suburban from a dealer with 117 thousand miles on it in. Less than three weeks of owning it the transmission went out. So unfortunately this is accurate.
Crazy how things have changed! Mopar was the one's that had the bad rep about bad transmissions. Now it's the other way around. It's better to buy a Mopar! Just buy you Ram!
@@ryanhoffman5477 I just made a comment. My company bought 6 2018 2500 brand new. Besides the dozen recalls we have had to replace three trannies and a host of other parts. First tranny was replaced at 28k miles. Sorry but dodge nor Ford who is my choice is no better. Every manufacturer sucks nuts these days sad to say
Funny thing abt an automatic. If the fluid has never been touched & hasn’t been driven hard, you have till 100k to change it out. Anything after 110 you’ll start to notice bad stuff in shifting or suddenly getting transmission codes.
@@ryanhoffman5477 the only reason for that being that Ram uses the German ZF transmissions. Rest of the vehicle is still Chrysler garbage
@JayTheSpeaker
Mopar!!! Number 1 baby!!!
I bought a 2005 Chevy 2500 van, Germain Chevy in Columbus, Ohio, 9-5-2005.
I drove it as a delivery driver 391,053 miles.
I personally did my own oil changes every 10,000 miles.
Talk about Kia! My Kia Sedonas transmission blew at 59k miles!
2005 Silverado, 242k and purrin. Fluid changes, 1 alternator, one fuel pump
watch that oil pressure, GM oil pumps don't like to last much longer than that
You just jinxed yourself my friend
@@andyleo8418 Thats fine I have a new truck also
What year would you say the Silverado quality started going downhill?
@@dylanduff9645 it's th o ring on the pickup
Disgusting how the saying "they just don't build them like they used to" just becomes more true by the day
Yea I'm starting to notice slippage every now and then in my 2017 Chevrolet Tahoe.
My 2017 sierra had its transmission go out at 67k then the factory rebuilt one went out at 93k.
I’m never buying another gm product again.
46,000 miles on my 2017 GMC Sierra 2500 HD and the transmission went out.
Regular maintenance and well taken care of. Go figure
That’s Chinese parts for ya
GMC,AKA, garage man's companion
Join the class action transmission lawsuit. One in both states and Canada
2500...is that the 6 speed? What were you towing/hauling?
I pull a 14’ enclosed work trailer on average every 10 days. Material and scaffolding plus trailer weight, 3,000lbs? Average 10-30 miles pulling the trailer to job sites.
My dads 2010 F-350 with the 6.4 diesel had the original transmission and he had 300,000 miles on that truck. The first 6.4 motor blew due to a manufacturing defect. Got a new motor put in. I miss that truck. He sold it. It was such a bad ass plow truck.
I recently bought a 15 silverado with 75k, the more I look this stuff up, the more a class action is NEEDED
Being a used car dealer it’s a shame I feel like I’m selling people junk shit but in reality they all have a little slip or shutter or some bs
I'm a professional transmission technician and the 6L80 and 6L90 have become our bread and butter. One major issue is the how the torque converter is made. It can't handle the heat and over time "pops" which takes out the rest of the transmission. It's called job security for me lol
Yep that’s why they came out with the newer transmission valve that sends oil to the cooler at 145 vs 190. Literally the first thing I did to my Suburban to keep the temp down.
that shit has happened to my 14 Sierra 1500 TWICE now. But the trucks paid off so.....hard to part ways with no payment
@@K9JWADE Sounds like you're payments are spread out in large chunks of transmission work.
So a big separate trans cooler with a fan on it would help tremendously?
@@919hornet4me We do this in the Middle East on 2010 to 2020 models
The valve helps but not always enough to keep the temp down
No fan, just an auxiliary transmission radiator
I think GM added an auxiliary transmission radiation on 2021
Replaced my 2016 Tahoe transmission at 54k miles, the warranty company kindly shipped in a defective Trans replaced 800 miles later. 3rd transmission worked. So we'll see how long this lasts
Replaced trans in my sierra at 136k out of pocket jasper reman. 3k later it’s back in the shop smfh
Ya, my 2018 sierra had 290 k and it ran like a clock. It’s all about how people drive them. There are a lot of things that can tear up your transmission.
This is why i keep all my old vehicles and maintain them myself as much as possible. 2006 4runner 210k miles, 1999 and 1998 Jeep XJ 140 and 134k miles, and my newest addition 1988 Jeep Comanche 300k miles. All of em cost alot less than a single POS new vehicle thats good for 100k.
They need to bring back manuals for all models of vehicles.
They tried, but nobody bought them.
This is fat lazy muuuricaaa!!!!
But then they wouldn’t be able to get 10 speeds. When the hell did we start needing all these different speeds when these new vehicles put out way more h.p. and torque.
6 gear manuals are the norm these days I have a 2014 vauxhall mokka (Buick Encore) 150k on the clock not had to change fluid yet. Pulls like a train but it does have the 1.7 cdti Isuzu engine.
I actually bought a 05 with the intention of manual swap they are the last gen to have factory manuals so you can get factory parts it's actually been parked due to 3rd gear slip in the 4l60e on its 3rd transmission and to be fair I have 35" tires and a lead foot only got 40k out of this last rebuild my 1ton 83 GMC 454 4x4 th400 original transmission 40 years and still going strong 💪😎
@@byronn.2885 It's straight up only for MPG
2015 Chevy suburban 90k on it. Luckily extended warranty covered the replacement,the dealership quoted 7k
Do you mind sharing the replacement cost from the dealership?
1200 to get my torqueflight rebuilt
@@chikechovis2499Hell, you could put a rebuild kit in a torqueflight yourself! Save your $1200 for buying a carton of eggs 🥚
Did you ever change the fluid?
@@dingbop963 that's the real question
My dad got a 2018 tahoe with 155,000 miles and it runs sill like new so it’s not all the newer cars it’s that people don’t take care of them and change the oil when they need to.
Torque converter is the reason billet converter and you will also need a new pump and bellhousing
People can try to say these do not the issues but here's a story. So i know 4 people that are clos to me with 2014-18 1/2 ton GM trucks. All of them had transmission issues in under 110k miles. None were used to tow heavy or very often. one failed at 45k, 70k, 108k and the other was a little over 100k. All of them traded them in on Fords...not that they do not have issues but nothing as consistent as those amount of transmission failures and lifter problems.
It’s the same transmission. It is a joint developed transmission with GM and Ford. Hopefully Ford used better software mapping than GM!
@@Don-fo5ov completely different transmissions.
My friends 2016 GMC Sierras transmission started slipping really bad at 121 thousand miles. I have a 2015 Ford F-150 crew cab platinum with over 165 thousand miles on it, and it runs like a champ. It’s funny because me and my friend had this little friendly debate going on about who’s truck is going to break down sooner. To be honest, I didn’t expect his truck to actually break down on him.
My pops has a 09 Tundra with 200K miles and he’s had no problems with the engine or transmission. People sleep on them heavy, yeah they don’t ride or look the best, but they last forever.
Tundras are a good option if you don’t have much money but if you can afford a ford they are nice for quite some time my 2015 expedition I bought used has been a dream for the 30k miles I’ve owned it it has 107k and couldn’t be better
@@michaelstevens04 tundras are more expensive 🤣
No tundra is worth more than an f150 platinum so do your research before you come here and make me bring the facts
@@michaelstevens04 he means more expensive if comparing the same trim levels. Not SR5 vs Platinum 😂
My 2016 Tahoe’s transmission went at 106,000. $6000 to fix
My 2012 GMC Sierra 2500HD transmission broke down right at 102K miles. Took it the transmission shop and behold. There were at least 20 plus GM vehicles with transmission issues. The owner of the shop stated that GM vehicles keep them busy throughout the year.
Completely true. I work at a transmission shop. They are all junk anymore. Ive done some with even lower miles. People need to do transmission service about every 30 k. Or less. You cant over service these new transmissions
What exactly would a transmission service be? Flush or just remove oil pan and filter and refill. Which would you recommend?
Depends on what transmission it is. We do not have a flush machine. So what we do is drain and fills. If you are able to change filter. You should. Be carful where you get your filter from. I would only buy from dealer. Aftermarket filters can cause issues. Also only use specified fluid. Most your front wheel drive cars you cannot change the filter without pulling the trans and splitting the case. Because of this and i personal believe the fluids break down faster then what the manufacturers say they do is why i say to change at least every 30 thousand.
Hard to find a shop you can trust don’t a proper transmission service
@@robertohashem the dealer put 8 quarts back in after a pan drop/filter change that took out 6 quarts at most. So I took it to Victorylane for a flush - the confirmed there was 3 quarts too much. But the transmission only latest 30K more - and total failure at 273K. It's only rated to 275K for the 4l60e - so my attempt to extend the life was futile. hahahaha. Now I'm scared to go over 5000 rpm on the Remans but I put on an external Magnefine OEM filter - and immediately the shifting was smoother. Also GM put out a TSB to add a 2nd magnet or a bigger magnet. And yeah I've read people having serious issues changing their filters - so I'd rather just change out the external filter and inline magnet ever 15K miles.
@@edwardvalencia291drain and filter change for most modern vehicles these days. Flushing modern transmissions can burn up solenoids and force debris into areas that causes problems.
They were listed on severe RUclips sites of vehicles to avoid. That’s about when they put the new 8 speed transmission. I believe there is a Class Action suit against GM. You should look into that. Wishing you all the best.
The front wheel drive 8 speed?
@@centraltexasfoxbodiesno the rear wheel drive 8 speed. They had major shift quality issues and they ate torque converters for breakfast.
A lot of those sites say to avoid every vehicle on the road. You need to take that stuff with a grain of salt and do your own research. Best place to look is the forums. That’s where everyone goes to complain and you’ll really see the scope of the problem.
my dad bought a 2017 sierra at 90k miles from carmax. transmission blew 2k miles later. right after the warranty expired!!
General Motors needs to realize the magnitude of the situation. As my father was, I am a Chevrolet guy.
My son wants to buy a Chevrolet truck.
I have convinced friends into buying Chevrolet trucks. As long as this goes on, they lose deep generational loyalty from their most important customers.
They need to make this right.
Yup you ain’t lying just replaced my 6l80 on my 2015 gmc Sierra 1500! At exactly 104k miles.
mines at 253k miles and it just stared giving me issues
Did you ever service it?
@@OptiSpark350 yes,i changed my fluids more often because i would tow my trailer with tools all the time
@xicyx1586 that's not bad. I was actually wondering about the OP though, 104k seems premature. I know the 6l80 and 4l80 usually went around 140-160k
"Find new roads cause we don't want you on ours"
Find new roads to the Mechanic.
@@ebindy4951that’s what I always say
You're right. Anything after 2013 is junk .... period....
There's ways more than just transmissions,timing chain,I could go on butt/they're cutting corners too line line thier pockets!Recalls is definitely in order my amigos 🧐
I had a 2013 Sierra & at 95k miles it dropped a lifter. Warranty was supposed to be bumper to bumper for 100k, they wouldn't cover it. I sent it back to the bank. They wanted $12,000 to replace the 5.3 engine.
My neighbor had a 2021 gmc Denali, less than 8 thousand miles dropped 2 lifters, guy at work less than 10.000 mile on same brand tyranny went out
GM loves NOT covering warranty items... They say, "working as designed". 🤬🤬
I do transmission + differential oil changes every 25-30k miles. Been nothing but smooth sailing. Use good oil and do it often. Don't run the truck to 100K miles with the same oil and then complain why the transmission went out 😂 a lot has to do on how you maintain your vehicle.
Yea and alot has to do with the fact that everything maid now is absolutely junk
Do you do any towing
Yes, maintenance is key.
I have two 2017 express 2500. Both had a minimum of three trans services. Both puked at exactly 150k miles. Both were driven by employees who drive like senior citizens. It's NOT a coincidence.
While I drive a 2006 Chevy Express 3500 with 350k miles. Original engine and trans. Still strong as hell!!!!
New Chevy trans ARE TRASH!!!
"I accept inferior product and am proud to let everyone know that i like when corporations use me as a blow-up doll" -@spyderzetta3391 , 2023
That's why I won't go past 2006, I've had newer ones and full of problems. Newer doesn't always mean better
Had a ford explorer and the same thing with me- remember GM and ford went together on that transmission and it’s junk.
208k on my '09 Yukon 5.3. Did all service intervals. It needed a transfer case at 120k, but everything else has been fine.
People tow a lot without turning on the tow mode. Because it doesn't feel like it's having a hard time pulling and wants to shift, people use that sixth gear for better mileage. The down side is overheating the clutches and burning the fluid.
Good point. Towing in overdrive is a big no-no.
My 05 doesn’t feel right when in tow mode. I haul my 5x8 with 2 mowers. Both fairly light. Idk why but I just hate the feeling of it. Maybe it’s supposed to feel like that in tow mode. Idk. Not a mechanic guy.
@@cleancutslawncare personally, I think it feels much better in tow mode.
@@toddamtmann3528 let me re word. It feels “different” maybe that’s how it’s supposed to feel. With it being an 05 I was worried about it causing damage.
doubt tht was the problem.
all the newer vehicles are just built shitty.
Better than my prior 2004 Tahoe that needed a Transmission at 62k
Bro same thing happened to my 2016 Yukon slt 😤 I have pictures of the truck still and yeah it needed a new transmission at 103k miles. I was so confused how this truck needs a new transmission already 😤. I have a 1996 Tahoe and a 1998 gmc Yukon slt ! The same Yukon different year! And those 90’s truck still run good at 150k and 130k miles!! And they’re 25 years old! I’m shook of wtf happened with GM. It makes me not wanna buy another newer vehicle anymore. 😒
It's really sad to see GM continue to build inferior products. Trashing their Mark of Excellence history.
They’ve been trash for 2 decades at least
don't even include the mark of excellence badge any more sooo hahaha
@@reeflab2221 uneducated
They’ve turned to garbage ever since the bailout
@@reeflab2221 Your crazy….