He might be the only youtuber that says "I'm not sure if you can see this on camera" and has it perfectly on focus every time. Usually it's like a Bigfoot photo 😂
@@quentonmillstid850 It's called a egg timer not because it's shape but it was often used to time boiled eggs, basically any timer that only has minutes and seconds displayed can be called a egg timer.
Only the LPL can solve a difficult puzzle like this using fewer tools than the puzzle manufacturer intended while still following the rules. LPL inadvertently increased the difficulty for himself. Outstanding.
Honestly I think his method could possibly be easier. Because when the other rods in play. It makes the mind think it needs to be used. Even if it only had one use. Nobody would know that for certain, without first trying. Which adds to the total time it takes. Not saying that it may not have been done just as fast by LPL. Ijs especially regular Joe's would definitely struggle more. To say the least!
Any lock that you can't approach with standard tools is a good lock. F.e. a lock with magnetic pin. If you don't know it has a magnetic pin before you start lockpicking - good luck. Before you figure it out and get the right tools, your window of opportunity may be over. Also LPL can always manipulate the lock while IRL many padlocks are placed in a very inconvenient positions, so you have to really perform some gymnastics to be able to lockpick them. So overal - I'd take fairly simple non-standard lock placed in a hard-to-manipulate spot over best quality stanard lock.
while it is extremely impressive how lpl was able to solve this in under 20 minutes completely on his own, using his own wits and knowledge, we should remember to give some credit to the person who solved it in one month. imagine banging your head against a wall for a month figuring out this devilish contraption. that's admirable1
The raking technique used would just be something the average person would do out of frustration and then they'd have no idea why it suddenly worked lol
This is why so many puzzles have the added challenge of putting it back together. You can't just wiggle everything every which way because you have to be able to retrace your steps eventually.
I remember a puzzle stand where you have to take apart few details that are intervened together. I'm an engineer, so I thought that vibration could take anything apart eventually. It took two seconds of vibrating it by hand, and I broke previous record.
@@asailijhijr vibration would if you want to get real technical. If you apply a continues force on any object by moving it back and force. It would eventually break or degrade slowly
Tbh I think that unscrewing the screw with the key is much cooler and even more in spirit of the puzzle since you're only using the lock and key. I think that in next revisions of the puzzle the hex tool shouldn't be included and the key should be altered to be a little better at unscrewing it so it's still a hidden screwdriver but it's hidden in plain sight and not within the bag.
IMO I would do the opposite, making it no way you could unscrew it with the key (security bit maybe), and has to look everywhere for hints. I think the sprit was to playing tricks on you, it was Loki after all :p My first attempt was around an hour, and that was really fun. I realize there must be something tiny when I double check the manual, and found the "small parts" warning, then I search everything came with it and that is the "It was why they call it Loki." moment.
remember: to provide ur lockpicking lawyer with proper enrichment, switch out the regular padlock or vintage mail lock with something like a puzzle lock every once in a while . :)
Watching this channel always reminds me on that day, where I went to a locked trailer to help a friend destroying it's lock because he lost the key. I brought my cheap small iron saw, for me to get there it was just a short walk so I went there by foot. It was one of those discus locks with a small attack surface and there was still something in between. We only had that cheap tool but finally after about 40 minutes be managed to destroy the beast. So we hooked the trailer to his car and I was invited to take a seat as co-driver. We drove just a few meters and after turning the car, the sun was low and blinded us so badly that he reached into the glove compartment in front of me to take his sunglasses. And lo and behold, the key to the lock we just destroyed was in the sunglasses case.
If you ever had to tighten or remove one of those screws, it wouldn't even cross your mind that they'd include a separate tool for it. They already gave you the key after all. Worst case you could've just used your fingertip.
@@Steev42 very true, however due to the design with the small pins holding the shackle in place I believe it would present more of a challenge than more traditional mechanisms, and most likely require more time than normal even for or highly skilled lawyer compatriot here, but then again he is one of the best lock-pickers on the internet.
@@wilclark2562 maybe and maybe not. I'm sure he would have thought of bypassing method as well if external tools are allowed. Like shimming the short end. That would be easy peasy
@Wil Clark It would also be hard for the lock *owner* to lock and unlock. The tradeoff is always between security and convenience (see: online passwords), this lock would really fail on the convenience front if it was touted as an actual usable lock. The pick resistance (security) isn't important if more often than not you're not going to bother to even lock it in the first place. Sorry for saying the obvious, it just felt like it needs to be said after you guys started talking about pick resistance :P
Where did you get the data to conclude that most people take multiple months? The video only has two data points and their average is well below a month.
@@michaelm6334 why you out here talking like a scientist. "Where did you get the data to conclude". Out here talking like a research paper for his college class.
Are we now gonna get a collaboration between your two channels? Maybe the LPL shows how easy it is to bypass a trailer coupler lock and any additional deterrents you can come up with to keep your RV from being stolen.
Not really, I'm a hobbyist and haven't come across any master locks I can't open at this day. I'm sure most locksmiths wouldn't have a problem with them.
That's only because the locksmith had to study the padlock and assess the situation to make it seem like he didn't forget to bring the bolt cutter with him when he first got out of his truck.
@@andrewbyrnes6389 Not really, but there was a small hex tool hidden in the bag that was intended for removing the set screw, rather than using the key as LPL did. LPL shows it right at the end of the video.
That's what He wanted you to think. You should have never let your guard down. He's outside your door, which means He's inside your house. All hope is lost for you. Foolishness will forever be your legacy. We will weep for you. Then, we will join you. But we w
It genuinely amazes and embarrasses me how little I'm able to comprehend what you do. I'm a chemical engineer, and a good problem solver, but I am completely hopeless at visualizing and understanding mechanical internals the way you do. Even watching you solve this puzzle while explaining every step, my brain simply couldn't absorb any of the meaning. Love your concise videos, and I hope you know how unbelievably gifted you are.
Are you familiar with locks and mechanical devices in general? If not that’s totally fine, I think you would need these to develop your thoughts at least
This specifically, the time spent visualizing locking mechanisms that he mentions, makes me think that LPL is/was either a practicing patent attorney or would have made an excellent patent attorney if that's not the career path he originally followed. Not every patent attorney has that kind of visualization skill to take something apart in their mind's eye, but it's an absolutely requirement for all GOOD patent attorneys (at least ones dealing with physical designs anyways).
LPL NEVER disappoints! Loki said “here’s some help” LPL said naaa stand back I got this 😂 INCREDIBLY impressive! I was mind blown the whole time watching this! - Grace
@@Gamerboy-je9or Grant hired the people that were hosting when he passed. He himself gave them the position they had, long before he passed. I think they're on different hosts now, I haven't watched the channel in quite some time, but your statement indicates that you probably haven't either.
damn, I actually don't understand how LPL can get puzzle locks so consistently; it's almost like, on top of just a healthy hefty sum of experience, he also has amazing deduction and reasoning skills. actually amazing tbh lmao
@@Marquis-Sade well I get that but it's not like they're giving him the answers (I'd trust his willingness to be truthful that he doesn't just look up the solutions and solves them on camera)
I think, after completing the puzzle once correctly, it would've been really interesting to see if you could try to use your own picks to open this in any different way, especially if it might've been possible to skip any of the normal steps by doing so - :)
Chris Ramsey approach : Maybe if I rotate it, spin it, is something magnetic? LPL approach : Slowly dismantles the entire puzzle into its component parts.
There's something incredibly relaxing about watching a master perform his craft. The "master key" eureka moment at 9:09 gave me goosebumps. 10/10 video
I think it takes 30 minutes of idleness to question 'am I missing something' and then search the bag. The problem is he completed the puzzle's goal in half that time. :)
@@markwright3161The number of times I had to tighten or remove those screws with nothing but my thumb, nail or a key I had in my pocket basically makes it a second nature by now. It wouldn't even come to my mind for another tool to be hidden in the bag, unless I ended up feeling it accidentally while taking the lock out of it.
You're the perfect example of the saying "better one who knows than ten who search" So satisfying to see someone understanding the mechanics going on hidden inside while i struggle to make ends or tails of it
Sorry to butt in but.… Well, that depends. On whether the "knowing" one really knows and whether the searching ones are skilled or knowledgeable themselves. Like, I'd take ten scientists specializing in oncology doing experiments in a case of a rare cancer rather than a self-important doctor who already "knows" everything. Or take law, where this principle is especially visible. Where the younger applicants are actually hardworking and cautious, and the older, experienced attorneys are so full of themselves and sure they're right they miss obvious facts. Hell, they don't even bother to ask the client about them.
@@vivvpprof Ah yes the old saying, "Better one who knows than ten who search except for when the person who knows actually doesn't know, and maybe the people searching are really good at searching." I understand your thought process but you're just dropping the point. (Edited thing: I was being snarky I'll admit to that. My apologies for it.)
Even if it was not intended for the makers to use the key as a wrench, it certainly provided an ingenious way to progress through the process. Was incredibly entertaining to see the puzzle-solving method by LPL!
I wouldn't be surprised if it was intended. It wouldn't be the first time, even on this channel - LPL did that with Titan's Treasure and it was part of the solution.
All puzzles are extremely easy once you can picture everything that's going on in your head, and seeing as for most people, a lock is a puzzle in and of itself, and mark picking lawyer can like he demonstrated in the video, hold a lock in a certain way and then just know that there's some modification and vaguely what that modification is is incredibly helpful.
This now proves to me that LPL doesn't carry house keys. He just picks his front door to enter. Whenever he uses a key it always seems to take him longer to open the lock and now he admits "if I was allowed to use lock picks this would be easy."
I don't know what is more funny, the fact that this probably can be true or the irony it becomes if it is not even near a fact. After all, he is still legally speaking a lawyer even if he now is more in the lockpicking exposing bad "security devices" and not only locks. I mean he even goes after some of the bigest lock brands there is only to expose what in his oppinion are flaws.
iirc his house locks are booby trapped to seize up permanently if picked and he has given the advice to never pick a lock you depend on, since you could break or jam it.
@@Zeldon567 it is a pain and sometimes impossible to remove a jammed broken tip of an lockpick. So naturally you can make locks unusable by trying to learn how to pick locks and you will lose many locks that way over the years.
Do you remember the unsolved locks bucket from which BosniaBill gave him locks? LPL refused two locks, knowing perfectly well why he was doing it. These were the old style and a new production of the Gerda locks. Made in Poland. These two are top-of-the-line from Gerda, but even the cheap ones are so hard to pick that nobody here in Poland bothers with non-destructive methods. In case of losing all keys to the two top locks and a card that allows ordering an additional key equals cutting off a part of the door. The next level above the Gerda Titans is the bank locks. Some are custom-made, some in a short production line, and some customized. A steel reinforced room with a steel-made heavy door is also reasonable when using 12 pins tubular Gerdas. Claimed to be the best on the market.
"Hello guys, this is the LPL, and I've got a puzzle for you today. Now, puzzles are definitely outside my comfort zone, and since we can't use any tools, we're gonna have to use the key to it as a screwdriver. Also, since we can't use the rake tool, we'll have to use the key as a rake tool. Aaand we got it open. Oh wait, here's the key." Damn, LPL. You're amazing.
Lmao the fact that you just straight up didn't find and use the intended tool makes this even better. Hats off to you for that solve, with such a quick time too!
By not using the "secret" piece in the bag, he did it in "hard" mode. Even more so because had he seen the extra piece, it would be a clue; so he deducted everything even with one of the clues missing.
Not really hard to figure out that a screw sticking out is how you're supposed to open something, especially when it's one of the only 2 things you have to even focus on on the entire product...
Considering that piece would have been utterly useless after the initial opening it would have been more of a red herring and a distraction honestly. LPL accidentally got rid of a lot of false options this way and could focus better
This may have been my favorite episode ever… seeing you have to figure out an unknown is way better than watching you instantly destroy a lock company 😂
Literally exact same thought. Almost posted the same. Also thought about posting "gonna need more than one bathroom break for this one." This is also one of the only times I've ever seen a commercial on LPL.
Where is the hidden, but included, hex tool? I'm not seeing where it could be in the video. EDIT: Never mind. I looked up another solve video and saw what you're talking about. EDIT 2: Apparently I should've just watched until the end of this one. 🤦♂
Great stuff. It fascinates me when a designer can make such a great puzzle out of an ordinary item with minimal modification to the overall appearance of the item.
As you suspected there was a clue in the booklet. Substantial investigation of the knots would probably have revealed the tool. Great job on the puzzle!
After a few years of watching Chris Ramsey I can tell you using a key as a screwdriver is a fairly common technique and you would certainly be justified in thinking that was part of the intended solution
And he has done that on what is to my knowledge at least to the only other puzzle lock on this channel. So he is already aware of that tactic assuming he hasn't watched any puzzle lock videos.
I honestly thought the screwdriver would be somehow artfully hidden in the design of the key itself, maybe if you held the tip at a 66.6 degree angle the sides of the key would line up appropiately or something... "Hidden hex wrench in the bag" was actually a bit disappointing to me 🤣 Just hope nobody gave the puztzle lock to someone without including the satchel 😁
@@sourcererseven3858 that is exactly what I though, I even looked back at the key to see if there wasn't some hidden feature in the key itself. but seeing that there wasn't, and seeing that I can't use external tools, I would have done the same thing. I wouldn't even think about looking at the bag.
It is however a slightly iffy solution (in this specific instance, if it happened to be the intended one) since you have a plated brass key going into a stainless setscrew, with badly mismatched shapes, the key is bound to get chewed up with time, the setscrew head can get distorted as well, and it probably won't turn the setscrew before long. You wouldn't want a $200 puzzle to substantially degrade every time you use it. It would have indeed been more elegant if they figured something out that actually matches the shape of some feature of the the key, for example a slotted setscrew with a slot width matched to a width of something on the key with just a little tolerance. I think puzzles where key is supposed to be used as a driver come up with a better way to do it like that. With the hex driver being hidden, i suppose it's fine.
@@A2ne At the end of the day, LPL is "Picking" the lock and took him over 20mins. Meaning the video was longer than 99% of the rest of his videos, meaning this was harder than normal..
I have never seen a 20 minute LPL video with only one lock or puzzle, and I enjoyed every second of it and I can see why it would be next to impossible for an average person to figure out.
The puzzle was cool, but seeing you putting your expertise to use was a pure joy. I guess I like watching people, who know their stuff, doing their stuff. 👍
you know its a good day when LPL uploads a 20 minutes video. thanks for the bday present bud edit: credit to the designer for making such a neat lock & credit to you for solving it under 20 minutes. hats off to you both
Actually, I think your method was better. It doesn’t rely on a hidden item to help open the lock. Since you used the end of the key, it makes the puzzle/trick more self contained.
Yes, but I would be worried about damage to the key or the screw. Metal-on-metal like that tends to leave jagged edges and damage screws, sometimes beyond the ability to be removed and inserted.
he already did pick it? the lock is designed to open really unpractical way and just lockpicking it won't do any difference. i think. correct me if i'm wrong.
"Master of knots" in the instructions is probably a hint to examine and undo the knots on the bag and hence find tiny hex key. "This proposed meaning of Loki’s name powerfully resonates with his role in Norse mythology in two ways. First, it points to his role as a maker of nets, both literal fish nets and metaphorical “nets” in the form of his cunning schemes that trap the gods in perilous situations. Second, it could indicate his being the “knot” in the otherwise straight thread of the gods and their world, the fatal flaw that ultimately brings about their demise."
It is designed by a puzzle maker who may know the classics. The best hiding place is in plain sight or in this case in print (which is in plain sight) 😉
I think so. I’ve never, EVER, seen anyone rake a lock besides on this specific channel, despite having watched many hours of puzzle solving content. It seems to me that he overthought it, all he had to do was maneuver the key so it was locked in the quarter position and slap it against his palm so the rod comes out. Multiple times he shows that the low cut on the key leaves a perfect gap between the inside and outside, for the rod to come out. The puzzle is: 1. To realize the screw needs removing 2. Remove it (other puzzles remove the screw with a key) 3. Realize the lock is affected by gravity/position 4. Realize there are set positions 5. Align the key with the unscrewed hole 6. Slap the rod out then continue as normal, the biggest hurdle being to put the shackle back on. I could be wrong, but I’m almost certain that no raking is necessary.
This has got to be one of your most satisfying videos - so fascinating watching you figure this out. I can almost hear you thinking and imagining what's going on inside that lock as you work out the mechanism. GREAT stuff from the Grandmaster of Locks!
I enjoy these puzzle videos because it throws LPL a curveball by messing with common lock picking conventions and forces him to utilize his skill plus logic to figure out the modifications in the puzzle
That master keying was a, hehe, key to this puzzle. I understand why ordinary person would need a month to solve that. Basically you need to give up on the puzzle and start raking it as a result of anger lol.
Agreed. If anything, the method increased the difficulty. Then again, consider the hidden nature of the tool, indicating this was one of the intended methods. The tool may have been an optional method, or a backup method in case the key was unable to work on the screw (I.e. Being recessed too far into the lock body).
Haven’t finished the video yet, but it’s cool to watch someone with the highest level of knowledge about locks having to adjust thinking to fit with the different kinds of constraints/logic for puzzles!
E.g. 1. Anything obvious is most likely a decoy, 2. There may be tools that come with the puzzle - if so, figure out how to use them, and 3. Resetting the puzzle can be as hard as solving it
Finally a LPL video long enough that I can sit down and watch with my morning coffee. That puzzle lock was interesting. I love your method of solving it.
Probably a fake lock right??? All editing and photoshop if you ask me. How gullible can you be to believe this??? I get it, LPL is the greatest in the world right?? Yeah wait till you find out how he hacked Klefki’s IVs and EVs
He says the same when he inserts his essential organ into his wife.... or when he watches me do so, which is twice a week since she is a seriously kiny lady.
using lockpicks might have helped a lot. Although the assumption to face a normal lock would have felt rather perplexing once the puzzle pieces start emerging.
Im surprised when he even said:"Lets read this pamphlet for tips" and there was something about Loki and knots. And in the bag you can see bigger than normal knots, I was sure there would be something inside the knot but atleast it directed in the right way. Good job using key as allen key! Also thanks for adding the last bit, showing how the allen key was actually hidden! Maybe in the future they should tighten it more so it can't be opened with tip of the normal key, missing a part a of puzzle! Good video again LPL, 5/5 Keep sending him these lock puzzles if you know good ones, or if you make lock puzzles, sending one to LPL would be good advertisement for you and good entertainment for rest of us!
I think the real clue about the hidden tool was the “contains small parts” because neither the lock nor the key are small enough to require that warning (and the internal piece that unscrews doesn’t count, precisely because it has to be unscrewed). The moment he read that warning that should have prompted him to thoroughly check the bag to see what were the “small parts”
I think your method was the correct method. The tool in the liner of the bag was something they added because the puzzle was just too hard. I think I finally understand that all these locks are not that easy to open. You just make it look easy. Bosnian Bill's naughty bucket gave me my first clue. This video confirms it. I am not sure I would have ever figured out this lok. :) Thanks again. Very engaging.
It would be interesting to see if the LPL using lock picking tools could open it faster or if the weird bar design would make lock picking incapable of working.
This was an *amazingly* entertaining video to watch for the whole 20 minutes. And despite having zero clue how one would even approach a mischievous lock like this, you explained your thought process so well that I even felt like I could understand and celebrate alongside the little "aha!" moments in the video. Absolutely brilliant! And this seems like an amazingly entertaining physical puzzle. If only I had the knowledge to be able to tackle one like that myself, lol. Definitely do more puzzle locks!!
Funny enough! When I saw the sides of the lock, the first thing I actually thought of was Titan's Treasure, and there it was also the key that was used to unscrew the sides. I think it was a good idea to reuse that method, even though additional tools were cleverly hidden.
There are a few things I took away from this video: -solved a puzzle that took someone about a month to solve -raked the lock with its own key -solved the puzzle without using an important tool, probably because of the previous lock puzzle -the biggest reason he was able to solve the puzzle very quickly is BECAUSE he is a lock picker
Ingenious puzzle indeed! And I agree that without LPL level understanding of locks and picking, using that raking technique would be something most people would never think of. Great video!
I think what was most interesting (and entertaining) was the speaking out loud of the thought process combined with the handling of the lock... it sounded familiar to me in certain ways, when I'm trying to discover a problem in an electronic circuit
I dunno about that because he was way more organized than I typically am when I start troubleshooting a circuit lol. Depending on the issue I'll either figure it out without writing stuff down or I have to actually organize my probe data to fix it.
This was not the normal lock picking format but this was SO much fun to watch. What an amazing job. I imagine I'd be stuck for days trying to figure this thing out and still not being able to solve it. Bravo LPL!
Rare to see a 3+ minute video from LPL, let alone a 10+ minute one. Haven't watched the full video yet, but it's probably right to guess that this is a pretty serious puzzle lock. Huge props to Boaz!
GREAT video as always! I already knew how this was done and was really blown away that you did it without getting the hidden pin! Hats off my friend, only someone like yourself would be able to do what you do! The hidden pin is way to easily missed I think and I do not like that it's hidden like it is. I love love these puzzles but there so expensive that I have to live through your videos and others to enjoy them. Paying 100-1000and beyond will never ever be an option for me and for that I am truly bummed! Wish I could find a slightly used puzzle site for the broke folks...l;ol
Dang. This designer should make different challenge locks and send them out to the locksport community. This was awesome! Hiding a tool in the bag that the lock came in was a nice touch, too.
I want to see a video of how fast he could actually open this with all tools allowed. And he can practice. Just to see how this puzzle lock compares to normal locks.
I just watched someone else do this puzzle after seeing you do it. Your knowledge of locks allowed you to bypass one of the puzzles secrets because they didn't rake the key, but I think you got lucky with using the key to unscrew the screw. Not going to say more incase you want to figure it out yourself but there's other videos. You followed all the rules of the puzzle even if you didn't quite do it the intended way. I think that's even more impressive.
I didn't think the raking would be needed. It's not really what you would expect of a puzzle mechanic (though admitedly, that would make it a good mechanic).
If you can do it without breaking the set rules, then even if it wasn't the designer's intent, it's still a valid win imo. You did it with one less tool: how is that not a win?
Wow, this is a great treat video from LPL. I didn't think I would witness LPL doing puzzles, to most of you it looks like a fun game. In reality the skillset and knowledge LPL shows here is absolutely next level. We are looking at clearances of micrometer scale and intuitive experience of a professional that is top 1% of his trade. Great to watch, enjoyed the analysis lpl
Your knowledge of locks is awesome, you never fail to amaze me with your knowledge and experience. My brother and I brought just about every practice lock we could find and set about unlocking them one by one using lock pickling tools. We progressed quite far with the practice locks and then tried our skills on real locks. Some we could open but most not. Frustrated, I set aside 30 minutes a day for 10 weeks to improve my skills. I admit defeat but was still a little impressed with what I had learnt. I was able to pick a hardened lock which locked the gate to my pond whilst the gate was open, and I was unable to close the gate. That pleased me but my skills are very limited, I don't know but it must take thousands and thousands of hours practice to attain a level of any competency. Thank you for sharing this amazing puzzle lock.
One thing is particularly evident with this lock function, it would have to be kept very clean and not left exposed to the elements. Any kind of dust or dirt getting inside and then damp from changes in temperature would cause that drop pin from moving freely and keep from setting that internal action in motion. What do you think?
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I’m glad he finally found a lock that took him more than twenty seconds to unlock.
it's a puzzle, not a lock
@@siilnr1250 woooosh the joke just went over your head
@@rjtimmerman2861 women can't make jokes
@@siilnr1250 and yet has all the properties of a lock, puzzle or not
@@BawkBawkBawk666 yea, might as well weld it together and call it a lock, gtfo
He played by the rules and still beat it in a unintended way. Absolute legend.
The creator: "He broke my puzzle! >:( "
he did it the pro way
He played by stricter rules and still solves it lol
It's about time he only used the key :)
He did it the Loki Way.
He might be the only youtuber that says "I'm not sure if you can see this on camera" and has it perfectly on focus every time. Usually it's like a Bigfoot photo 😂
Maybe the cameras work just fine, and bigfoot is just blury.
Mitch Hedgeberg.
@@sethkeown5965 god damnit I'm gonna steal that idea so hard
@@donttellthem2280I’m also stealing that idea
I’m also stealing
@@donttellthem2280ppl have been robbing Mitch for decades.
“The only reviewer says it took them a month”
LPL: reaches for an egg timer
🤣🤣🤣
Its definitely not egg shaped?
@@quentonmillstid850 It's called a egg timer not because it's shape but it was often used to time boiled eggs, basically any timer that only has minutes and seconds displayed can be called a egg timer.
XD
I can just hear LPL "Hold My Beer" 🍺
Dude really solved this puzzle faster than some puzzle specialists while missing a tool the entire time.
@notfiveo I meant the metal rod that acts as a screw driver to remove the set screw.
He's not just a dude. He's a lockpicking lawyer dude.
@@Maxthekillbot I would have tried the notches on the top of the key
Drp
would be funny if the guy that took a month to solver this spent a month looking for the allen key and then 5 minutes to unlock and lock the lock
Only the LPL can solve a difficult puzzle like this using fewer tools than the puzzle manufacturer intended while still following the rules. LPL inadvertently increased the difficulty for himself. Outstanding.
I guess you could say he was thinking outside the bag.
He should have given it to LLPL
Honestly I think his method could possibly be easier. Because when the other rods in play. It makes the mind think it needs to be used. Even if it only had one use. Nobody would know that for certain, without first trying. Which adds to the total time it takes. Not saying that it may not have been done just as fast by LPL. Ijs especially regular Joe's would definitely struggle more. To say the least!
@@jumpman8282 10/10!
Now is going to be 5$ since everybody know the puzzle .Not 210$ anymore..👍
I saw a 20+ minute LPL video and was thinking that this must be the best lock ever made, not what I expected but still really fun.
i mean, if you really did want to secure something super well, you could probably use this lock
@@BlueDogXL remember that this is the intended way to do it, we have no clue about how long this lock would take to pick.
@@BlueDogXL With brute force you could easily open this lock. Security is not the intended purpose
Any lock that you can't approach with standard tools is a good lock. F.e. a lock with magnetic pin. If you don't know it has a magnetic pin before you start lockpicking - good luck. Before you figure it out and get the right tools, your window of opportunity may be over.
Also LPL can always manipulate the lock while IRL many padlocks are placed in a very inconvenient positions, so you have to really perform some gymnastics to be able to lockpick them.
So overal - I'd take fairly simple non-standard lock placed in a hard-to-manipulate spot over best quality stanard lock.
@@bezimienny_andzej6425very good points. The best security is layered and 'awkwardly and annoyingly located' is a feature.
Never taught i would see him lockpick a lock using it's own key
LPL: "You open locks with the key. I pick locks with the key. We are not the same"
😅
while it is extremely impressive how lpl was able to solve this in under 20 minutes completely on his own, using his own wits and knowledge, we should remember to give some credit to the person who solved it in one month. imagine banging your head against a wall for a month figuring out this devilish contraption. that's admirable1
He was probably so excited. He was running around the house telling everyone he got it. He finally ducking figured it out
Imagine banging your head against the wall for a month trying to solve this, and then seeing LPL slightly cheese it in under 20 minutes, lol.
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imagine having opened it after two weeks and you still need to figure out how to close it properly.
@@Lunaphire well, I would still be proud of myself what I could open something _at all_ where the LPL needed more then 2min to solve xS
The raking technique used would just be something the average person would do out of frustration and then they'd have no idea why it suddenly worked lol
This is why so many puzzles have the added challenge of putting it back together. You can't just wiggle everything every which way because you have to be able to retrace your steps eventually.
I remember a puzzle stand where you have to take apart few details that are intervened together.
I'm an engineer, so I thought that vibration could take anything apart eventually. It took two seconds of vibrating it by hand, and I broke previous record.
@@smirnovamaria9611 vibration won't certainly separate anything, but everything can be separated by some vibration at some frequencies.
@@asailijhijr vibration would if you want to get real technical. If you apply a continues force on any object by moving it back and force. It would eventually break or degrade slowly
Funniest thing even is, that I didnt hear it as "raking", but same with k replaced with p. LMAO.
Tbh I think that unscrewing the screw with the key is much cooler and even more in spirit of the puzzle since you're only using the lock and key. I think that in next revisions of the puzzle the hex tool shouldn't be included and the key should be altered to be a little better at unscrewing it so it's still a hidden screwdriver but it's hidden in plain sight and not within the bag.
i like it. the rewarding of curiosity is a good part of the puzzle
Agreed though. Even angle the teeth as a hint.
IMO I would do the opposite, making it no way you could unscrew it with the key (security bit maybe), and has to look everywhere for hints.
I think the sprit was to playing tricks on you, it was Loki after all :p
My first attempt was around an hour, and that was really fun.
I realize there must be something tiny when I double check the manual, and found the "small parts" warning, then I search everything came with it and that is the "It was why they call it Loki." moment.
Except I can imagine using the key, especially multiple times, would strip the hex screw
remember: to provide ur lockpicking lawyer with proper enrichment, switch out the regular padlock or vintage mail lock with something like a puzzle lock every once in a while . :)
This post has major clown husbandry vibes
@@fenecouwu*LockPickingLawyer husbandry.
not sure why i expected this to have a "let's give The Lockpicking Lawyer a controlled shock" punchline
We have a Border Collie. Enrichment. Yep.
Watching this channel always reminds me on that day, where I went to a locked trailer to help a friend destroying it's lock because he lost the key. I brought my cheap small iron saw, for me to get there it was just a short walk so I went there by foot. It was one of those discus locks with a small attack surface and there was still something in between. We only had that cheap tool but finally after about 40 minutes be managed to destroy the beast. So we hooked the trailer to his car and I was invited to take a seat as co-driver. We drove just a few meters and after turning the car, the sun was low and blinded us so badly that he reached into the glove compartment in front of me to take his sunglasses. And lo and behold, the key to the lock we just destroyed was in the sunglasses case.
Haha, that's one of life Twisters for sure!
Reminds me of one of my dad's stories
Lol
awful. that was Loki's way of saying 'ha-ha'....
@@cold1895 reminds me of your dad's stories too
I love that not only did he not use external tools, he used LESS than the required amount of tools to solve it. Bravo. Truly a master with locks.
Heroic mode.
How did he use less?
@@kb_dev at the very end of the video. he realizes that there is a tool to unscrew the screw that he did not use
@@kb_dev There was a tiny hex screwdriver hidden in the pouch the padlock came in.
He simply just used the key.
If you ever had to tighten or remove one of those screws, it wouldn't even cross your mind that they'd include a separate tool for it. They already gave you the key after all. Worst case you could've just used your fingertip.
I think this is most likely the highest non-destructive pick-resistant lock ever featured by LPL
it only works if you follow the rules of not picking it.. LPL is normally not known for following the rules given by the lock producers 😂
To be fair, he said it would have been easier with lockpicks.
@@Steev42 very true, however due to the design with the small pins holding the shackle in place I believe it would present more of a challenge than more traditional mechanisms, and most likely require more time than normal even for or highly skilled lawyer compatriot here, but then again he is one of the best lock-pickers on the internet.
@@wilclark2562 maybe and maybe not. I'm sure he would have thought of bypassing method as well if external tools are allowed. Like shimming the short end. That would be easy peasy
@Wil Clark It would also be hard for the lock *owner* to lock and unlock. The tradeoff is always between security and convenience (see: online passwords), this lock would really fail on the convenience front if it was touted as an actual usable lock. The pick resistance (security) isn't important if more often than not you're not going to bother to even lock it in the first place.
Sorry for saying the obvious, it just felt like it needs to be said after you guys started talking about pick resistance :P
I love that to get a 20 minute video out of LPL it took a puzzle that would take most people months.
Where did you get the data to conclude that most people take multiple months? The video only has two data points and their average is well below a month.
The one review on the store page
I’d imagine he would’ve unpuzzled this one even faster if he weren’t talking to us.
Im also in the group of wanting longer LPL videos.
@@floatpvnk Maybe he's so fast because he is narrating everything. Rubberducking is a powerful technique for problem solving.
@@michaelm6334 why you out here talking like a scientist. "Where did you get the data to conclude". Out here talking like a research paper for his college class.
So, basically it takes you as long to open a difficult puzzle lock as it does any other locksmith to open a $5 Walmart Master lock.
Are we now gonna get a collaboration between your two channels? Maybe the LPL shows how easy it is to bypass a trailer coupler lock and any additional deterrents you can come up with to keep your RV from being stolen.
or 30 Master Locks
A Master Lock (even the "Military Grade" models) he opens in mere seconds... This puzzle took him a lot longer than any Master Lock, I guess
Not really, I'm a hobbyist and haven't come across any master locks I can't open at this day. I'm sure most locksmiths wouldn't have a problem with them.
That's only because the locksmith had to study the padlock and assess the situation to make it seem like he didn't forget to bring the bolt cutter with him when he first got out of his truck.
LPL: "That was a fun little puzzle lock!"
the locksmith: "Thanks, how long did it take you to find the little hidden hex key?"
LPL: "The what?"
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I’m not sure what you mean. Did he open it in a way that was not supposed to happen?
@@andrewbyrnes6389 Not really, but there was a small hex tool hidden in the bag that was intended for removing the set screw, rather than using the key as LPL did. LPL shows it right at the end of the video.
@@andrewbyrnes6389 Yes. The locksmith intended for people to find the hidden hex key but LPL loosened the screw using the lock's key
Wow 👌 👏 😍 👍
I get lots of comfort hearing LPL say he’s “not sure” about something. Lets me know he’s still a human being in spite of his superhuman skills.
Just like homelander
No, I'm not Not Sure!
_Thank you for confirming your identification.._
Maybe......LPL is faking uncertainty to lure you into false comfort to eat your boredom..,...just saying
That's what He wanted you to think.
You should have never let your guard down.
He's outside your door, which means He's inside your house.
All hope is lost for you.
Foolishness will forever be your legacy.
We will weep for you.
Then, we will join you.
But we w
You fell for his trap. That is exactly what alien cyborgs want you to think.
It genuinely amazes and embarrasses me how little I'm able to comprehend what you do. I'm a chemical engineer, and a good problem solver, but I am completely hopeless at visualizing and understanding mechanical internals the way you do. Even watching you solve this puzzle while explaining every step, my brain simply couldn't absorb any of the meaning. Love your concise videos, and I hope you know how unbelievably gifted you are.
Are you familiar with locks and mechanical devices in general? If not that’s totally fine, I think you would need these to develop your thoughts at least
This specifically, the time spent visualizing locking mechanisms that he mentions, makes me think that LPL is/was either a practicing patent attorney or would have made an excellent patent attorney if that's not the career path he originally followed. Not every patent attorney has that kind of visualization skill to take something apart in their mind's eye, but it's an absolutely requirement for all GOOD patent attorneys (at least ones dealing with physical designs anyways).
Who cares. Just put it in corrosive acid. It will be open. 😅
Have you considered that you might have aphantasia? It’s surprisingly common for how unknown it is
lpl would be amazing at visualizing stereochemistry
LPL NEVER disappoints! Loki said “here’s some help” LPL said naaa stand back I got this 😂 INCREDIBLY impressive! I was mind blown the whole time watching this! - Grace
At what point in the video did you learn Loki saying that?
@@primalinea682 The end of the vid my friend
You two ruined the TKOR Chanel when grant died the Chanel should have too
He already used the key to unscrew the hex plug in other puzzle locks. It was logical to assume that it's the same case.
@@Gamerboy-je9or Grant hired the people that were hosting when he passed. He himself gave them the position they had, long before he passed. I think they're on different hosts now, I haven't watched the channel in quite some time, but your statement indicates that you probably haven't either.
damn, I actually don't understand how LPL can get puzzle locks so consistently; it's almost like, on top of just a healthy hefty sum of experience, he also has amazing deduction and reasoning skills. actually amazing tbh lmao
That's the "lawyer" part of his name in action!
He is well known so giving him this stuff is just free ad for the company
@@Marquis-Sade well I get that but it's not like they're giving him the answers (I'd trust his willingness to be truthful that he doesn't just look up the solutions and solves them on camera)
@@anti_nana4463 IKR dude actually makes a living off it
@@danelyn.1374 Oh. I missunderstood. I thought you were wondering why someone gives him those for free
8:53 "Now, this would be easier if I was allowed to use lockpicks" He says while trying to open a lock
While trying to open a lock with the key no less.
😂😂😂😂
I think, after completing the puzzle once correctly, it would've been really interesting to see if you could try to use your own picks to open this in any different way, especially if it might've been possible to skip any of the normal steps by doing so -
:)
The Mythbusters approach, i.e. "We've fulfilled the original premise, but let's keep going and see what happens."
Chris Ramsey approach : Maybe if I rotate it, spin it, is something magnetic?
LPL approach : Slowly dismantles the entire puzzle into its component parts.
Puzzle: exists
Chris Ramsey: SPIN IT
Chris Ramsey: "no force required..." *smacks it on the table*
That's definitely a mathematical analysis approach. Maybe TPL is a secret mathematician?
I sat there waiting for the spinning! 🙂
There's something incredibly relaxing about watching a master perform his craft. The "master key" eureka moment at 9:09 gave me goosebumps. 10/10 video
If thats all it takes to give you goosebumps you need to get out more
@@jeremyphillips3087 you must be really fun at parties huh
@@h3nry511 im not actually. People dont like me because of my bad personality 🤷
@@jeremyphillips3087 thats quite of honest of you, I'll give you that
Touch grass
Thinking outside the box has its limits folks, we just witnessed a master of thinking inside the lock, and it was beautiful.
I respect the man he sees a lock first, and puzzle second, even missing the hidden tool for the puzzle in the process. Truly a man of focus.
I think it takes 30 minutes of idleness to question 'am I missing something' and then search the bag. The problem is he completed the puzzle's goal in half that time. :)
@@markwright3161The number of times I had to tighten or remove those screws with nothing but my thumb, nail or a key I had in my pocket basically makes it a second nature by now. It wouldn't even come to my mind for another tool to be hidden in the bag, unless I ended up feeling it accidentally while taking the lock out of it.
I can feel him wanting so badly to just grab his picking tools the whole time 😅
😂😂
You're the perfect example of the saying "better one who knows than ten who search"
So satisfying to see someone understanding the mechanics going on hidden inside while i struggle to make ends or tails of it
Sorry to butt in but.… Well, that depends. On whether the "knowing" one really knows and whether the searching ones are skilled or knowledgeable themselves. Like, I'd take ten scientists specializing in oncology doing experiments in a case of a rare cancer rather than a self-important doctor who already "knows" everything. Or take law, where this principle is especially visible. Where the younger applicants are actually hardworking and cautious, and the older, experienced attorneys are so full of themselves and sure they're right they miss obvious facts. Hell, they don't even bother to ask the client about them.
@@vivvpprof Ah yes the old saying, "Better one who knows than ten who search except for when the person who knows actually doesn't know, and maybe the people searching are really good at searching."
I understand your thought process but you're just dropping the point.
(Edited thing: I was being snarky I'll admit to that. My apologies for it.)
Better one who knows than 10 who search.
People forget those who know and those who search are the same thing in the internet age.
Even if it was not intended for the makers to use the key as a wrench, it certainly provided an ingenious way to progress through the process. Was incredibly entertaining to see the puzzle-solving method by LPL!
I wouldn't be surprised if it was intended. It wouldn't be the first time, even on this channel - LPL did that with Titan's Treasure and it was part of the solution.
That's definitely intended, there was a similar lock puzzle with the same feature on the channel before
@@tite93 Did you watch until the end of the video? As it turns out, there was a little hex key hidden in the hem of the lock bag
@@Gammix oh yeah, I turned it off once he solved it, missed that part. Thanks for pointing it out!
@@tite93 You don't wait to hear him tell you to have a nice day?!?!
Being able to visualize the inside of locks, I would imagine, is a very helpful tool for solving puzzles and the like.
All puzzles are extremely easy once you can picture everything that's going on in your head, and seeing as for most people, a lock is a puzzle in and of itself, and mark picking lawyer can like he demonstrated in the video, hold a lock in a certain way and then just know that there's some modification and vaguely what that modification is is incredibly helpful.
This now proves to me that LPL doesn't carry house keys. He just picks his front door to enter. Whenever he uses a key it always seems to take him longer to open the lock and now he admits "if I was allowed to use lock picks this would be easy."
I don't know what is more funny, the fact that this probably can be true or the irony it becomes if it is not even near a fact.
After all, he is still legally speaking a lawyer even if he now is more in the lockpicking exposing bad "security devices" and not only locks.
I mean he even goes after some of the bigest lock brands there is only to expose what in his oppinion are flaws.
iirc his house locks are booby trapped to seize up permanently if picked and he has given the advice to never pick a lock you depend on, since you could break or jam it.
@@Zeldon567 it is a pain and sometimes impossible to remove a jammed broken tip of an lockpick. So naturally you can make locks unusable by trying to learn how to pick locks and you will lose many locks that way over the years.
Btw he did pick the lock to open it by raking it with the key, that means that it wouldn't have helped if he had used his own tools.
😂 Oh, that's why he is so good at picking locks 🔒
I love that this lock was just hard enough to be fun but not impossible and his lockpicking brain helping but not making it too easy was great
Do you remember the unsolved locks bucket from which BosniaBill gave him locks? LPL refused two locks, knowing perfectly well why he was doing it. These were the old style and a new production of the Gerda locks. Made in Poland. These two are top-of-the-line from Gerda, but even the cheap ones are so hard to pick that nobody here in Poland bothers with non-destructive methods. In case of losing all keys to the two top locks and a card that allows ordering an additional key equals cutting off a part of the door. The next level above the Gerda Titans is the bank locks. Some are custom-made, some in a short production line, and some customized. A steel reinforced room with a steel-made heavy door is also reasonable when using 12 pins tubular Gerdas. Claimed to be the best on the market.
"Hello guys, this is the LPL, and I've got a puzzle for you today. Now, puzzles are definitely outside my comfort zone, and since we can't use any tools, we're gonna have to use the key to it as a screwdriver.
Also, since we can't use the rake tool, we'll have to use the key as a rake tool.
Aaand we got it open.
Oh wait, here's the key."
Damn, LPL. You're amazing.
Just watched LPL pick a lock with a key. What a time to be alive
Lmao the fact that you just straight up didn't find and use the intended tool makes this even better. Hats off to you for that solve, with such a quick time too!
The other puzzle lock he did used the key as a turning tool, so I can see why he missed it.
In a way, he picked the lock keeping the rod nut inside.
He also raked the lock which was not how it was intended to be solved (you just hold it in a certain position, and turn the key).
By not using the "secret" piece in the bag, he did it in "hard" mode. Even more so because had he seen the extra piece, it would be a clue; so he deducted everything even with one of the clues missing.
Not really hard to figure out that a screw sticking out is how you're supposed to open something, especially when it's one of the only 2 things you have to even focus on on the entire product...
@@DrakeOola yes, and using the tip of the key makes it more interesting. So, the hidden hex tool needn't have been included at all.
Depends, in a way he skipped a step by forcing, still in bounds but it's a stretch to call it hard mode.
Considering that piece would have been utterly useless after the initial opening it would have been more of a red herring and a distraction honestly. LPL accidentally got rid of a lot of false options this way and could focus better
This was the best "puzzle box" solve I've seen online. Really fun to watch someone so expert tease apart a riddle.
This may have been my favorite episode ever… seeing you have to figure out an unknown is way better than watching you instantly destroy a lock company 😂
A 20 minute video from LPL! Let me grab a bowl of popcorn first.
Literally exact same thought. Almost posted the same. Also thought about posting "gonna need more than one bathroom break for this one."
This is also one of the only times I've ever seen a commercial on LPL.
I was excited as well. 😄
My popcorn got cold..
LPL Loki too smart for his own good! Even solving this puzzle lock w/o the (intended to be used), included, but hidden hex tool! CRAZY!
Easy mode is in the bag
@@wobblysauce Maybe it's like a math book.
Answers in the back in case you're struggling
Where is the hidden, but included, hex tool? I'm not seeing where it could be in the video.
EDIT: Never mind. I looked up another solve video and saw what you're talking about.
EDIT 2: Apparently I should've just watched until the end of this one. 🤦♂
@@JonatasAdoM Just looking up another answer... as you are scanning the rest in the mean time.
spoiler alert! haha
"This would be easy if I was allowed to use lockpicks"
Somehow, I completely believe him
And I’d love to see LPL doing it :)
We need a video of this lock with picks
Yeah man you should’ve picked it at the end
I think I know why…
It sounds so delightfully evil too 😂
I love how this guy explains his thought process instead of just going for it and getting it done.
This video is a HUGE compliment to the maker of this product.
Except that everyone now knows the solution, so no one will buy it.
@@bvd7517 lik people will remember
@@kenziebalhatchet3918 there arent a lot of steps involved so i would certainly remember and would make the puzzle unfun
@@Raulxz I doubt that most people will remember this locks steps after like 3 months and that will dwindle the longer time passes
Great stuff. It fascinates me when a designer can make such a great puzzle out of an ordinary item with minimal modification to the overall appearance of the item.
As you suspected there was a clue in the booklet. Substantial investigation of the knots would probably have revealed the tool. Great job on the puzzle!
Can you give a hint to where to investigate the knots?
@@leslie32892 The drawstrings have knots on them. Pulling them tight or seeing about removal should have revealed an unusual stiff spot in the bag.
@@leslie32892 The booklet talked about knots, I assumed it meant that they was involved in some way.
So you're saying he solved the puzzle without even using all the tools at his disposal? There's another tool in the drawstring of the bag?
@@calvinmills4069 Did you watch the whole video?
A puzzle master took a month to do what LPL did in less than 17 minutes... WHILE MISSING A TOOL!!! This man is a legend.
After a few years of watching Chris Ramsey I can tell you using a key as a screwdriver is a fairly common technique and you would certainly be justified in thinking that was part of the intended solution
And he has done that on what is to my knowledge at least to the only other puzzle lock on this channel. So he is already aware of that tactic assuming he hasn't watched any puzzle lock videos.
I honestly thought the screwdriver would be somehow artfully hidden in the design of the key itself, maybe if you held the tip at a 66.6 degree angle the sides of the key would line up appropiately or something... "Hidden hex wrench in the bag" was actually a bit disappointing to me 🤣 Just hope nobody gave the puztzle lock to someone without including the satchel 😁
Any hex screw with a provided key/lock mechanism is definitely intended to have that key used to remove it. Unless an allen wrench pops out first.
@@sourcererseven3858 that is exactly what I though, I even looked back at the key to see if there wasn't some hidden feature in the key itself. but seeing that there wasn't, and seeing that I can't use external tools, I would have done the same thing. I wouldn't even think about looking at the bag.
It is however a slightly iffy solution (in this specific instance, if it happened to be the intended one) since you have a plated brass key going into a stainless setscrew, with badly mismatched shapes, the key is bound to get chewed up with time, the setscrew head can get distorted as well, and it probably won't turn the setscrew before long. You wouldn't want a $200 puzzle to substantially degrade every time you use it. It would have indeed been more elegant if they figured something out that actually matches the shape of some feature of the the key, for example a slotted setscrew with a slot width matched to a width of something on the key with just a little tolerance. I think puzzles where key is supposed to be used as a driver come up with a better way to do it like that. With the hex driver being hidden, i suppose it's fine.
I'm always intrigued by LPL's approach and observations. However, I'm shocked as this may be the longest LPL video ever.
I think he has some longer, but not by much. He did shooting locks with BB, and that was long videos.
@@Locutus I think he means long as in picking a lock long and opening the lock, not in time of video..
@@Cent51 i think its a bit hard to say that when the original comment said "this may be the longest LPL video ever"
Exactly!
@@A2ne At the end of the day, LPL is "Picking" the lock and took him over 20mins.
Meaning the video was longer than 99% of the rest of his videos, meaning this was harder than normal..
I have never seen a 20 minute LPL video with only one lock or puzzle, and I enjoyed every second of it and I can see why it would be next to impossible for an average person to figure out.
Need to do more. Maybe the one lick that was not a puzzle but befuddled Bosnia bill that Gerda dead bot from hell 😁
The puzzle was cool, but seeing you putting your expertise to use was a pure joy. I guess I like watching people, who know their stuff, doing their stuff. 👍
you know its a good day when LPL uploads a 20 minutes video. thanks for the bday present bud
edit: credit to the designer for making such a neat lock & credit to you for solving it under 20 minutes. hats off to you both
Actually, I think your method was better. It doesn’t rely on a hidden item to help open the lock. Since you used the end of the key, it makes the puzzle/trick more self contained.
Yes, but I would be worried about damage to the key or the screw. Metal-on-metal like that tends to leave jagged edges and damage screws, sometimes beyond the ability to be removed and inserted.
Would be nice if the hex was just on the back or tip of the key, hidden in plain sight.
After being solved & put back together it would be interesting to see him pick it.
Didn't he already show it can be raked? Getting the key to turn was not the hard part :)
That's what i thought! LPL Sir! Pick it now please! 🔐
@@ogi22 I think beaten most of the best locks, and he had the key! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Technically he did, he raked it lol
he already did pick it? the lock is designed to open really unpractical way and just lockpicking it won't do any difference. i think. correct me if i'm wrong.
I loved how you talked through your thinking process while figuring out this puzzle! So entertaining and insightful 😃👍
"Master of knots" in the instructions is probably a hint to examine and undo the knots on the bag and hence find tiny hex key. "This proposed meaning of Loki’s name powerfully resonates with his role in Norse mythology in two ways. First, it points to his role as a maker of nets, both literal fish nets and metaphorical “nets” in the form of his cunning schemes that trap the gods in perilous situations. Second, it could indicate his being the “knot” in the otherwise straight thread of the gods and their world, the fatal flaw that ultimately brings about their demise."
Lpl looked at the bag and handled it for a moment after reading this line!!
This is really reaching.
It is designed by a puzzle maker who may know the classics. The best hiding place is in plain sight or in this case in print (which is in plain sight) 😉
The "net" is ALSO the outcome...("Net Result")
LPL: "I'll use the raking technique once again, mh, I'd doesn't seem to be working"
Me: "omg, was that a fluke??!"
@@nb2vcxz The raking *not working* was a fluke!
Whales have two flukes.. gotta do a third try, or test for wetness..
@@nic_enc_old he raked too far an so the key was basically fully committed instead of just the raked master pins. ;D
I think so. I’ve never, EVER, seen anyone rake a lock besides on this specific channel, despite having watched many hours of puzzle solving content.
It seems to me that he overthought it, all he had to do was maneuver the key so it was locked in the quarter position and slap it against his palm so the rod comes out.
Multiple times he shows that the low cut on the key leaves a perfect gap between the inside and outside, for the rod to come out.
The puzzle is:
1. To realize the screw needs removing
2. Remove it (other puzzles remove the screw with a key)
3. Realize the lock is affected by gravity/position
4. Realize there are set positions
5. Align the key with the unscrewed hole
6. Slap the rod out
then continue as normal, the biggest hurdle being to put the shackle back on.
I could be wrong, but I’m almost certain that no raking is necessary.
This has got to be one of your most satisfying videos - so fascinating watching you figure this out. I can almost hear you thinking and imagining what's going on inside that lock as you work out the mechanism. GREAT stuff from the Grandmaster of Locks!
I enjoy these puzzle videos because it throws LPL a curveball by messing with common lock picking conventions and forces him to utilize his skill plus logic to figure out the modifications in the puzzle
That master keying was a, hehe, key to this puzzle. I understand why ordinary person would need a month to solve that. Basically you need to give up on the puzzle and start raking it as a result of anger lol.
Thanks to thousands of videos of LPL, raking was my first though lol.
I think your method is valid and within the rules. Pretty impressive that you got this so quickly.
Agreed. If anything, the method increased the difficulty. Then again, consider the hidden nature of the tool, indicating this was one of the intended methods. The tool may have been an optional method, or a backup method in case the key was unable to work on the screw (I.e. Being recessed too far into the lock body).
That was my thought. The key wasn’t an external tool. It counts.
Haven’t finished the video yet, but it’s cool to watch someone with the highest level of knowledge about locks having to adjust thinking to fit with the different kinds of constraints/logic for puzzles!
E.g. 1. Anything obvious is most likely a decoy, 2. There may be tools that come with the puzzle - if so, figure out how to use them, and 3. Resetting the puzzle can be as hard as solving it
This video got more and more enjoyable with each subsequent "Oh!" and "Ah!"
I really enjoy how you explain your thought process as you move along, your logic steps. You are a master sir!!
Finally a LPL video long enough that I can sit down and watch with my morning coffee.
That puzzle lock was interesting. I love your method of solving it.
I love that the solution involved raking the lock with it's own key. That's comedy gold right there.
I think the key to figuring out the raking technique is in the "master of lockpicking" in the booklet.
That's Jill's section!
I love how in the middle of making a discovery he kept the composure to say "And we got this open"
Probably a fake lock right??? All editing and photoshop if you ask me. How gullible can you be to believe this??? I get it, LPL is the greatest in the world right?? Yeah wait till you find out how he hacked Klefki’s IVs and EVs
LPL he's our man, if he can't do it - no one can!
I have to assume he says that when he opens a lock and no one is around
He says the same when he inserts his essential organ into his wife.... or when he watches me do so, which is twice a week since she is a seriously kiny lady.
I was hoping we would get "And we got this locked" at the end :P
"Loki throws in a helping hand"
LPL; Nah, I don't need that!
*Absolute legend*
That was EXACTLY my thought too!
This lock reminds me of a tiny escape room. I love the specific steps you had to take to make progress!
I like how humble he is with time. He says almost 17 minutes with 15 seconds to spare. Someone else would've rounded down to 16 minutes 😂
especially considering additional time spent explaining us what he's doing and why
He knows that's almost certainly a record for that puzzle, and not by just a few seconds!
Classic lawyer tactic. Bills you by the minute, rounding up. ;)
I'm really interested in what your approach would have been had you not received any instructions and it was a blank lock body.
You edited your comment lol
@@Eliotah seamed more appropriate
using lockpicks might have helped a lot. Although the assumption to face a normal lock would have felt rather perplexing once the puzzle pieces start emerging.
I see what did there, lol. The hidden hex driver . . . Good one . .
@@Eliotah with the educational system the way it is, any discrepancy in proper English would be considered as code talking.
Im surprised when he even said:"Lets read this pamphlet for tips" and there was something about Loki and knots. And in the bag you can see bigger than normal knots, I was sure there would be something inside the knot but atleast it directed in the right way. Good job using key as allen key! Also thanks for adding the last bit, showing how the allen key was actually hidden! Maybe in the future they should tighten it more so it can't be opened with tip of the normal key, missing a part a of puzzle! Good video again LPL, 5/5
Keep sending him these lock puzzles if you know good ones, or if you make lock puzzles, sending one to LPL would be good advertisement for you and good entertainment for rest of us!
I think the real clue about the hidden tool was the “contains small parts” because neither the lock nor the key are small enough to require that warning (and the internal piece that unscrews doesn’t count, precisely because it has to be unscrewed). The moment he read that warning that should have prompted him to thoroughly check the bag to see what were the “small parts”
@@jpe1 the small parts are un the lock, it is required to mention that, i thik.
Perhaps sanding and rounding off the key tip would also work
I think your method was the correct method. The tool in the liner of the bag was something they added because the puzzle was just too hard. I think I finally understand that all these locks are not that easy to open. You just make it look easy. Bosnian Bill's naughty bucket gave me my first clue. This video confirms it. I am not sure I would have ever figured out this lok. :) Thanks again. Very engaging.
It would be interesting to see if the LPL using lock picking tools could open it faster or if the weird bar design would make lock picking incapable of working.
I know where my money would be.. 😂
This was an *amazingly* entertaining video to watch for the whole 20 minutes. And despite having zero clue how one would even approach a mischievous lock like this, you explained your thought process so well that I even felt like I could understand and celebrate alongside the little "aha!" moments in the video. Absolutely brilliant! And this seems like an amazingly entertaining physical puzzle. If only I had the knowledge to be able to tackle one like that myself, lol.
Definitely do more puzzle locks!!
I sped it up to 2x. He speaks slowly enough that I was still able to understand everything.
Funny enough! When I saw the sides of the lock, the first thing I actually thought of was Titan's Treasure, and there it was also the key that was used to unscrew the sides. I think it was a good idea to reuse that method, even though additional tools were cleverly hidden.
Exactly my thoughts. I honestly was assuming that this one was just not built as well and that was harder to unscrew.
I too had instant flashbacks
indeed, I think solving a puzzle regardless of the official solution is the beauty of puzzle solving! great vid! thanks!
Hearing you think through the process out loud made the video so much more enjoyable
I do enjoy your puzzle videos! Hopefully more lock-puzzle creators are encouraged to innovate and challenge you.
yes! this was really fun to see!
There are a few things I took away from this video:
-solved a puzzle that took someone about a month to solve
-raked the lock with its own key
-solved the puzzle without using an important tool, probably because of the previous lock puzzle
-the biggest reason he was able to solve the puzzle very quickly is BECAUSE he is a lock picker
What important tool was he missing?
edit: nevermind....
Raking the lock with its own key is so galaxy brain
@@midn8588 Anything is a tool to LPL.
Ive raked a lock with another locks key, in fact i had three locks from three different sources that could all open with each others key.
Using the key as a wrench. Then raking it. Sick flex.
Ingenious puzzle indeed! And I agree that without LPL level understanding of locks and picking, using that raking technique would be something most people would never think of. Great video!
Excellent Work
Your ability to “see” how the mechanism works, is truly a great gift.
I think what was most interesting (and entertaining) was the speaking out loud of the thought process combined with the handling of the lock... it sounded familiar to me in certain ways, when I'm trying to discover a problem in an electronic circuit
I dunno about that because he was way more organized than I typically am when I start troubleshooting a circuit lol. Depending on the issue I'll either figure it out without writing stuff down or I have to actually organize my probe data to fix it.
This was not the normal lock picking format but this was SO much fun to watch. What an amazing job. I imagine I'd be stuck for days trying to figure this thing out and still not being able to solve it. Bravo LPL!
Rare to see a 3+ minute video from LPL, let alone a 10+ minute one. Haven't watched the full video yet, but it's probably right to guess that this is a pretty serious puzzle lock. Huge props to Boaz!
GREAT video as always! I already knew how this was done and was really blown away that you did it without getting the hidden pin! Hats off my friend, only someone like yourself would be able to do what you do! The hidden pin is way to easily missed I think and I do not like that it's hidden like it is. I love love these puzzles but there so expensive that I have to live through your videos and others to enjoy them. Paying 100-1000and beyond will never ever be an option for me and for that I am truly bummed! Wish I could find a slightly used puzzle site for the broke folks...l;ol
There is something incredibly satisfying about watching LPL trying to open a lock for longer than 2 minutes.
Dang. This designer should make different challenge locks and send them out to the locksport community. This was awesome! Hiding a tool in the bag that the lock came in was a nice touch, too.
This was extremely entertaining and engrossing, I would love to see more of this kind of content from you if you're up for it.
I want to see a video of how fast he could actually open this with all tools allowed. And he can practice. Just to see how this puzzle lock compares to normal locks.
I just watched someone else do this puzzle after seeing you do it. Your knowledge of locks allowed you to bypass one of the puzzles secrets because they didn't rake the key, but I think you got lucky with using the key to unscrew the screw. Not going to say more incase you want to figure it out yourself but there's other videos. You followed all the rules of the puzzle even if you didn't quite do it the intended way. I think that's even more impressive.
I didn't think the raking would be needed. It's not really what you would expect of a puzzle mechanic (though admitedly, that would make it a good mechanic).
If you can do it without breaking the set rules, then even if it wasn't the designer's intent, it's still a valid win imo. You did it with one less tool: how is that not a win?
It means he 'cooked' the puzzle; ie. he found an unintended solution
Technically it was still the same solution: He was supposed to unscrew it and he did.
@@melgibsonero
Without using any tools
I'm sure Chris Ramsay approves
@@ldorman without using EXTERNAL tools. It sounded like hint that there are internal tools...
@@mrblc882 how would that be a hint they just don’t want you to use bolt cutters
Now that you've solved it the right way and have knowledge of the lock, I'm curious what you would do if left to your own devices with your own tools.
I'm betting on the Ramset....
@@aaronmiles7878 That makes putting it back together harder though.
Wow, this is a great treat video from LPL.
I didn't think I would witness LPL doing puzzles, to most of you it looks like a fun game. In reality the skillset and knowledge LPL shows here is absolutely next level. We are looking at clearances of micrometer scale and intuitive experience of a professional that is top 1% of his trade.
Great to watch, enjoyed the analysis lpl
Your knowledge of locks is awesome, you never fail to amaze me with your knowledge and experience. My brother and I brought just about every practice lock we could find and set about unlocking them one by one using lock pickling tools. We progressed quite far with the practice locks and then tried our skills on real locks. Some we could open but most not. Frustrated, I set aside 30 minutes a day for 10 weeks to improve my skills. I admit defeat but was still a little impressed with what I had learnt. I was able to pick a hardened lock which locked the gate to my pond whilst the gate was open, and I was unable to close the gate. That pleased me but my skills are very limited, I don't know but it must take thousands and thousands of hours practice to attain a level of any competency. Thank you for sharing this amazing puzzle lock.
This has to be the first video ever in which I saw lpl taking more that 3 mins to unlock a lock, even so its a puzzle
knots is what had me thinking you had to search the bag, but your method did indeed work in the skope of the rules and I feel it's fair!
"This is something only someone like me would notice"
Loki Lock Defeated!
LPL: Lock Picking Loki
still better than a masterlock
One thing is particularly evident with this lock function, it would have to be kept very clean and not left exposed to the elements. Any kind of dust or dirt getting inside and then damp from changes in temperature would cause that drop pin from moving freely and keep from setting that internal action in motion. What do you think?