Never Buy a Car With This Engine
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- Car engine. Never Buy a Car With This Engine, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Worst cars to buy. Buying a car. Bad engine designs you should stay away from. Bad car engines. Cars to avoid due to horrible engine design. Cars you should never buy. There have been some terrible car engines in the past but these are the worst of them all. Cars not to buy. Car buying guide. Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 51 years.
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The 6th gen Honda accord is the best engine of all with V-tec 4 cylinder 2.3 L and the 2.4 i-vtec 4 cyl. Trust me I have 5 of them no problem for 20 years of ownership.
Scotty Kilmer I have a Dodge Charger 2008 2.7 engine, I had a problem with the solenoid pack it was replaced but the light turns back on with the same solenoid code and the car does the same thing, it doesn’t let the transmission change the gears. The mechanic told me that it might be the pcm! What do you think?
Scotty what you think about Ford focus titanium 2012 ? Is it worth to modify ?
Scotty what about the ford 4.0 SOHC V6?
Scotty can you make a video about people altering the odometer of older cars. I have a 2001 Toyota Camry that is practically bullet proof...it was 156k when I got it, but after Carfax was notified of a change in ownership I got an email of the need update the service record. I was stunned to find out that the last record on Carfax shows the car had over 260k on it. I was shocked to say the least. Pls touch on this issue.
Blow up your engines!
Lol, no thanks, knock on wood.
😂😂😂
How many shots of vodka does this guy take before he makes these videos ... Rack up your bar tabs and get ready to mumble and slur your words through another Kaaaar ... vid. ... vid ... video ... 😜👌
Hahaha he should've dubbed that in
This made me lose it 😂
If Scotty was hand cuffed, he wouldn't be able to say anything.
m schiffel ROFL
I swear to God Scotty could not talk if he could not move his hands
I sometimes tell my wife she needs to sit on her hands. She gets quiet after that
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@m schiffel
The 2.2 Ecotec isn’t a bad engine. It’s owners who don’t take care of the vehicle. My dad races these cars, and while I have seen a few with timing chain issues, I’ve seen a lot of them that have had 250,000 miles on them and ran great. Their pretty reliable engines and are easy to work on.
not sure he knows what he's talking about. I thought the ecotec was one of the best, most reliable engines out there put in USA made vehicles.
The 2.4 is awful.
Don't agree with Scotty at all on the 2.2L Ecotec. Might be an interference engine, but at least a timing chain will give you some warning before it simply breaks. Timing belts might be a different story.
Also, who cares about the V8-6-4 from 40+ years ago! Very few were produced and only for a short time. Pretty sure it didn't impact too many people.
How about we talk about the lousy fuel economy of the Toyota Tundra or even the Tacoma V6?
@Rob-tn8to What if I told you that some mechanics actually have the nerve to tell you that you don't need to worry about a timing belt if your car isn't running poorly via symptoms that a worn out belt might produce. And that you don't have to worry about replacing it until that point, you don't need a timing belt.
Great advice, huh?
That's brutal advice alright!@@user-hn9ln4ex6k
my old 3800 buick v6 pontiac just keeps on going and going and going. no high tech just high durability and reliability. time to go back to the future.
I had a Pontiac Grand Prix with the supercharged 3800 series II V6. Great engine, transmission not so much.
Your car's year of making?
The Gm 3.8 is a damn good motor. This comming from a Ford guy.
Flint Michigan
Honorable mention: dodge 3.8 ohv magnum v6
Mis-fires can be seen on a $100 scan tool. Chrysler does not have design problems, the whole company is a design problem.
lol
How the mighty have fallen! Chrysler (Dodge-Plymouth-Imperial-DeSoto) used to be the most desirable cars. They couldn't out-do GM or Ford because they couldn't undersell them but if you were willing to pay a little more you got a superior car.
Yeah that should have easily made the list!
Mopar as a platform has so many issues it baffles me how it has die hards. Some jeeps and dodges leak fluid all over the underside of the frame because of where the oil/trans fluid pan is located...behind the driveshaft??? C'mon
Planned obsolescence
His intro should have been "rev up your engines!!! But not these"
jaw495
Rev up your... damn it!
missed opprtunity
hahaha
😂😂
Scotty what cha think about the Ford Flex I own a 2013 SEL.
I would say dont buy any GM vehicle with a Northstar V8 engine. Absolute trash! Leaks oil everywhere and catches on fire!
The only trash thing about Northstar engines is the owners that mistreat them, like skipping the 40K mile coolant flush and letting the coolant eat away at the head gaskets. I see old school Northstar Devilles, Sevilles, and even Allante drops a daily basis, and the Northstar was in production from 1992-2011 and still holds the record for the longest-production Cadillac engine of all-time. Caddy must have done something right...
I work at a GM dealership and just about every single vehicle that I have ever worked on that has the Northstar engine is currently leaking. Very rarely do I see a Northstar that isnt leaking. It's to the point where if we know the vehicle has a Northstar engine it's almost a guarantee I'm going to recommend an engine leak repair. Sometimes even complete engine reseals.
Absolute garbage
Never happens northstars are some of the best
My mechanic calls them “deathstar”
Been a GM mechanic for 15+ years the eco-tech 2.2 and 2.4 is one of those engines that never have any problems but they don’t like lack of maintenance or low-grade maintenance parts.
4 years later, do you still feel this way?
Yeah. I beg to differ on that. I have a 2.4 and check the oil and maintain it well. It's been a great up until the 100,000 mi mark. It was all downhill from there.
Really I've heard bad things about the 2.4
2.2 is a solid engine I used to have a Cobalt and my girlfriend has an HHR it's been reliable but we're looking for a new car because it's rusting really bad (we're in Michigan part of the rust belt)
The guides for the timing chain are plastic - no amount of maintenance can compensate for a cheap part
Hey Scotty! Good morning sir!!! You rock !
good morning!
You mean the pet rock in the video LOL! He always rocks though!
Mitch 👍👍👍
@@CTmoog What a talented human being he is...father and grandfather the top mechanics of his day and he deserves all the best of everything!
Scotty I have a 2000 Yukon with brake line break ont the fron how to fix it
If Scotty was in charge of car designs we all would be driving 94 Celiaca.
I got the GM 2.2 Ecotec Engine in my '04 Cavalier, and haven't had any problems with it. Runs just fine, and been driving in for around 7 years straight. They are some tough cars.
@Grizzly Yes, every 5,000 miles with Quaker State 5W-30. I switch off and on between the High Mileage and Advanced Durability oil. Still runs and drives great to this day.
Yeah I stopped the video when this was the first engine he mentioned. I had two vehicles with a GM 2.2 ecotec with well over 100k on one and 160k on the other one before I pass them on. The 2.2 ecotec is one of the better engines GM made.
Totally agree with you, 165k on my 2002 Sunfire GT and it still runs as it should. I did replace the timing chain at 90k but that's necessary for any engine with chains not belts
I have a 04 Saturn ion that has the 2.2 ecotec in it and I have just hit 270,000 last week. Still going strong. But I also change the oil very regularly. Just put a new ignition module on there.
@@lonniebaisden4473 Chains usually last longer than belts.
5. Chevy 2.2 Eco Tech 4 cylinder engine
4. Audi 1.8 turbo charger 4 cylinder engine
3. Chrysler 2.7 liter V-6 engine
2. Cadillac V-8 6,4
1. Mazda 1.3 liter rotary engine
Come on Scott he's not God he's a mechanic these are his opinions many have people have hundreds thousands millions of miles on that Chevy motor there's plenty of crap out there way worse then maybe all of these this is an opinion
I had two rotaries back in the day and each went over 100K without major problems. Each lasted longer than the car itself, which isn't saying much.
@@TC-uy8ng Scotty has some hard on for Toyota Toyota has had plenty of mishaps I'm not going to list everything that they do wrong I like and respect general motors and dislike Ford I guess it's what you're happy with growing up
@@TC-uy8ng my stepfather had two RX7 my ex-wife had one he's right about fouling spark plugs flooding the engine carbureted or fuel injected it didn't seem to matter he's also right about the rotary seals we had an engine go bad with just over a hundred thousand miles if it even got there decent horsepower no torque bad gas mileage cool little sports car though the engine just sucked
@@nickajk1 I had an RX2 and an RX7. Definitely not economical by any stretch, but I never had much trouble with either one. 100K is a milestone for those, but wouldn't expect much more with the original seals. I guess I was lucky. Rotaries were just more of a novelty back then.
My grandparents gave me their old 2000 Buick Century with the 3.1L V6 and I commuted in that car for many many years. That car was super reliable and smooth, I could almost fall asleep in it. It felt like I was driving on a cloud and it was so quiet inside. It drove like a boat and it felt like it could roll over when making sharp turns.
But boy was it a great cruiser on the highway. It's perfectly quiet inside at 70 mph, and I got good gas mileage. It wasn't a sports car by any means, but if you put he petal to the floor, it had decent passing power. But above all, it has been extremely reliable. The engine has never had any problems whatsoever and I always did routine maintenance and oil changes regularly. It did shift a little sloppy, but that's to be expected for a car aimed at older people. It's easy to drive, way more comfortable than a lot of modern cars I've been in, and just keeps on driving.
I got it from my grandparents when it only had 80,000 miles. They had another newer Buick that they drove, so they gave me their old one.
And sure, the Buick Century is not the sporty electronic filled stylish cars you see today. Far from it. But I don't care. It's just me and the car with no electronic garbage between us. And that's what I like about it. There's plenty of room under the hood for me to work on it. Parts are dirt cheap and can be found at junk yards for pennies. But the only things I have done to it is replace a blown brake line, replace the air filter box, and flush the coolant system. That's it, seriously! And it's 19 years old and still going strong. It has just been routine oil changes.
The engine is the GM 3.1L V6 3100 SFI making around 175 HP which is plenty for a commuter vehicle. It's no race car, but it has power to spare when passing cars in the highway and getting up to speed quickly.
I'm still daily driving that car and I'll keep driving it until it either blows up or turns to dust, whichever comes first. The old Buick cars are very underrated in my opinion, and I'm surprised that not many people my age truly appreciate the "old people cars" and luxury sedans like these. I can drive to work in comfort and I have so much room to stretch my legs and relax while driving. A lot of newer cars I've driven can handle much better and are probably faster, but their ride quality is harsh and you feel ever crack in the road. The old Buick goes over bumps like it doesn't even exist. And that old Buick can still accelerate pretty quickly and sounds pretty good with that 4-speed automatic.
Overrated? You must have meant underrated.
Good points. You really don't want a sporty/ harsh suspension up here in the Midwest rust belt. The roads are rough, salt rots the Bodies out in ten years or less.. I actually towed a Pontiac 6000 out of the ditch midwinter , and in the process, the engine transmission subframe just gave out, literally falling out and scraping along the ground. 😅😕
Its the Chevy Colorado first generation is known for manifold leaks.
Dont buy it. Also they got a 2nd cat. convertor. It goes out before 90K miles and so does the exhaust manifold on both sides.
Very expensive repairs.
1990 Grand Prix with a 3.1 engine in it you can't kill that thing only thing I replaced was Major with some kind of oil pump seal start leaking oil but otherwise is a great car I had the transmission flushed once which I heard the guy that does the cast on here say that not the flush the transmission but I did that mine went 225000 miles and was still strong so I don't agree with everything he says but I'm glad someone said that 3.1 was a good engine in the 3800 or 3.8 was it good motor
I always made an effort to change the oil on my Malibu, with the same 4 cyl 2.2 L engine that Scotty talks about and so far have never had a timing chain problem. My current 2004 Malibu has 156,928 miles, My other 2004 Malibu Classic had 181,000 miles and never had a timing chain problem. I also religiously changed the oil on that engine also.
WORST BRANDS
0. all European cars
1. Fiat-Chrysler
2. GM/Chevrolet
3. Nissan
4. Hyundai/Kia/Genesis
5. Mitsubishi
according to Scotty
Your statement backs up what I always say about how long cars last. And that is I think it's the owners NOT taking care of their vehicles. They don't do simple scheduled maintenance. I hope they read what you wrote here.
My wife had 2 of these engines 2.2 ecotechs. 1 had a strong running engine but always had trouble with the car except for the engine. It was at about 190,000 when we got rid of the car. The other had over 220,000 when the head gasket went in the car and got rid of it. The guy my wife bought the car from was a wrecked car fix and flip said that he had several ecotechs get around 300,000? So I don't think that sound like a bad engine
I have an 04 malibu as well it's has 325k miles original chains and everything except the ac compressor I still drive it everyday change the oil every 3-4k miles ive tried killing it but it won't die hold on to both of yours they're noisy but great cars
I had an 07 cobalt 2.2 changed oil every 3-5k miles with full synthetic and ran like new when I sold it with 185k miles. No engine failures
“The seals would let gas by and when you turn it off you’d wait a few seconds and *BANG* ” that was hilarious to me atleast
Before I watch, I'm gonna guess Chrysler and GM are the list.
and no Hondas
You Sir-my friend are correct
@Wutzmyname Mike is that the 3800 in the Buicks?
Never again had a Chrysler 99 300m 🗑! Have a 12 terrain Slt The Joint burns 5 quarts of oil in less than 2000k miles WTF?!!!!😩😩😩
American car companies make good V8. Other than that, not worth it
When Scotty said boom I fell out of my chair laughing so much!!
Mitch when ???
2:08
@@techforever1970 No way LOL I was talking about Scotty taking about the KABOOM at 8:10 !
@@nomadicviewer3050Scotty taking about the KABOOM at 8:10 !
@Shelby Morgan You missed it then...Scotty taking about the KABOOM at 8:10 !
I had that Chrysler 2.7 motor in my 2000 Dodge Intrepid...beautiful car, garbage motor. People had nothing but good things to say about the 3.5 for that car, so I bought a 2010 Charger with the 3.5 in 2012. Ran great for a while but had to replace the rocker arms (design flaw led to premature failure) and then at around 149,000 miles the rings went and I was burning a quart of oil a day. Ended up getting a 2017 Durango in October of 2017...AC died at 45,000 miles. I’ll never buy another Chrysler product again.
My dad had a series of Chrysler cars during the 80s and eventually came to the same conclusion, although we had a slant six powered Aspen and that was good.
But the general rule of thumb is that Chrysler has quality issues. We drive Toyotas, Scotty would be proud.
Lith to each their own
The Intrepid was an ugly looking car. It looked like someone made the Dodge Neon bigger. The Intrepid was as bad as it looks. It looks like a fishbowl.
ATX-CVPI you’re entitled to your own opinion. I happened to like the Intrepid
@@muhdewd9727 Geez that's a lot of money spent to figure out, "don't buy a Chrysler" What took you so long?
Have a 2004 Chevy cavalier with the 2.2 ecotec and I have ran that thing low on oil so many times and it has 254,000 miles and still starts right up and runs like a dream
I have a feeling the rotary is going to be on here.
Because they're sh*t. Amazing, cool, beautiful sounding, pieces of sh*t. And i want one, but will need 5 since the seals keep failing even when taken care of.
They're a novelty. Its cool for a sports car but dumb for mainstream
LOL yeah , feel sorry for the people who bought the Mazda RX8 , very fast car but the engines blew up after 50000 miles LOL
@303StreetMachines great for one lap🤣
I worked for a Hyundai/Mazda dealer and I always seen Rx8s in for engine work. Always engine work.
"What a stupid idea", shows build a bear Me: *dies of laughter*
The rotary engine , "the engine that goes Hummmm". I remember the hype fifty years ago.
Drivers of the NSU Ro 80 used to greet each other with raised fingers. Every finger means one engine.
They're super fun drag motors, though.
@soundautomatic1 and they sound cool 😎
The GM 3.8 (3800) Engine was a very good engine.
I had luck with the 3100 from the 90s, Lumina era.
Coil packs always failed.
Same with the 3600 v6 absolutely bulletproof! Trust me I know, I have a 2002 Pontiac grand am with around 215000 miles and no engine issues whatsoever. (Glad I doesn't choose the cheaper ecotec option!!)
Same with the 5.7L V8!
I have a 3800 engine supercharged any good .?
Scotty needs bodyguards. He tells the truth and pisses off the industry.
Alabama Woodsman - he wears denim jean jackets....damage has been done
I'm sorry, but the 2.2 ecotec is an amazing motor, the 2.4 it was garbage, but that was one of the best cheapo motors ever made, but like you said if you don't keep oil in it it's going to die. IF you're putting blame on the engine design for people not putting oil in them is kinda blaming the wrong party.
This. There’s a reason you still see so many Cobalts Cavaliers and G5’s/G6’s with the 2.2, least here in Canada. They were made to compete with Toyota’s fuel efficient designs, and run forever if you look after them. 40mpg is pretty damn good even in 2019.
My Cobalt has a 2.2 ecotec and its going strong at 155k no problems, i have had front end problems though nothing major
Makis Equinox agrees my Saturn VUE woth the 2.2 and 5 speed manual has 212k on it and runs like a top. Strongly disagree with scotty
When I was thinking about getting a Cobalt SS a few years ago I was looking up their reliability. Let’s just say I found no reason to get one. Highest maintenance costs over 5 years out of any car in its class. I guess it’s a hit or miss whether people have good luck with them.
@@andyk192 yeah, my girlfriend had to get rid of her sunfire for the same reason, but I'm in the pinochle of the rust belt.
Have a 2009 cobalt 2.2 ecotec. Driving it for 8 years, regular oil changes, not one issue with anything! Great car!!
IRONMAN000 my engine detonated after a MAF sensor failed and destroyed the cylinder walls, damn near shook itself apart
They're usually fine as long as you keep on with the maintenance
Me too.
I have a 03 cavalier with the 2.2 ecotec and it's still running strong even with added horsepower
Mine cobalt runs great. I maintain it well. Full syn all fluids. Mobil one filter. Car is zippy and runs great. I think it's a well made engine.
Had a 2009 cobalt with 2.2 ecotec. Despite all the forums of people saying their engines blew up, my engine did great. Always kept up on the oil and filters. It survived 130k until someone t-boned me totaling the car. Originally got the car from an old lady who had a priest bless the car. Pretty sure that’s why it was so reliable for me. 😇😂
That Chrysler 2.7 should be #1. What a nightmare.
smithraymond09029 yes
As a Chrysler owner, I agreee (although I have the 3.5)
The 3.5L was junk as well. Oh it burns a quart of oil every 3000 miles, oh we'll just make it a 6qt. crankcase. Also cancelled due to it's "high parts content".
Scotty runnin out of ideas? He already made this video
New Ford 3.5L have the same water pump issue 🤦♂️
Rev up your engine, as long as it's not one of these five!
u can rev 1.8t as high as u want as much as u want, just dont be dumb american and fail to read manual for oil manufacturer recommends.
Actually you are forced to rev the 13B if you want it to survive
@@tommior9553 i got a 1.8t with 280k ...still going strong, it's a great engine
Twobarpsi
Unclear instructions:
Bought a BMW with Pinto gas tank and blown head gasket out of warranty.
@@AB-ou8ve lol, at least it wasn't a Wankel!
Scotty I love you I've worked on cars professionally for 45 years keep telling it like it is
💯 Scotty K.
My 2.2 won’t miss a beat most reliable thing I’ve been around so far but I do agree that it is hard to work on literally everything is in the way of everything lol
Yeah same here. It's needed work but the bottom end is very very solid. I've replaced the timing chains twice. Probably gonna need to do it a third time
I gotta 2007 Malibu 2.2 with 74k miles. It drives great. I just wish it was a 3800 V6🤣it's too slow for my liking
I have the 2.2 Ecotec in my HHR it has 213k on it, replaced the valve cover gasket recently and the cams looked great
Preproto I was changing my oil on time and my timing chain still went bad at 150k. I am the second owner though.
I have a 2.2 ecotec engine with 190k miles and it still works great. Also my brother had a car with the same engine that had 197k miles on it. Only reason it didn't get more on it is because it was totalled in a wreck. Never had any problems with mine.
same in here as well
Tyler Yoder
My cavaliers was fine. But my Cobalts was no good
2:21 "If you're the type of person that doesn't maintain a car well..." shows a picture of a woman driver lmao Scotty is a savage
Its true tho
Not wrong I wouldn’t want to be the unlucky person to buy any of my moms previous cars lol 😂
Yep, that made me laugh 🤣☠️
LOL! That was funny -- but not all women guilty of this.
Cause he ain’t wrong 😂😜 had to be a blonde too in a i think it was Mercedes or Lexus? 😂🤦🏻♂️
I have a 2006 chevy cobalt with the 2.2 engie eco tec and it has over 200,000 miles and it runs like a champ😎
Your chain may have been upgraded with a better tensioner. Most of them are junk at 125K that i've seen.
Yes I believe in 06 they went to the better timing chain tensioner. My 05 Cobalt blew up in a parking lot hahaha
My 03 Cavalier with a 2.2 Ecotec is still going strong, 400000km.
Well let's get something straight....no Chevy Cobalt is the 'champ' if anything. Haha, they should last if you maintain them, including timing inspection/replacement...but that's pretty much most engines. The driver makes most of the difference. But it's hardly champion lol. It's supposed to run that long. Just not fun, or exciting. He makes great points on alot of his videos. But the ones about the BMW'S....drive me insane. 265k on my 06 325xi. Still runs and drives as it should.
Champion car. *
I have the same year cobalt as you. With proper maintenance they can go a long way.
My daughter drove an HR with the 2.2 Ecotec. She got over 200,000 miles out of it. We used Royal Purple every 10,000 miles.
I saw the thumbnail and I didn't even have to watch the video to know you're 100% right.
The ecotec engines are good but K. Blind faith away.
I owned a VW Passat with a 1.8 turbo. From day one, I used synthetic oil against the advisement of the service tech at the dealership. A local Northeast Ohio VW tuner advised me to do so. That engine ran for a really long time without any problems. A year later, the Volkswagen dealership had a sign behind the service writer that indicated, only synthetic oil would be used in the 1.8 turbo engines.
The major issue with the engine in the Audi A4 and Passat was, they were mounted longitudinally. That same engine in the Golf/Jetta platform, was mounted transversely. The longitudinal engines had a smaller capacity oil pans because there was less room. The oil in the longitudinally mounted engines did not have the proper amount of time to cool in the oil pan after leaving the turbo. From what I understand, that is what caused the sludge issue.
My cousin had a 98 with that engine bought with 10k miles in 99. He had nothing but problems. He was very dissapppointed because he took very good care of it.
F.I.A.T. = (Fix It Again Tony)
Chrysler used to be good.
I should have kept my parents 63' 300, and 68 Newport.
Why Tony who is Tony lol Fix it again tomorrow makes more sense to me
Never heard that before but i really did laugh out Loud 😆
Straight 6 in the Chryslers back in the 60s and 70s are notorious for reliability.
That’s from King of the Hill 🤣
Ford let's their cars fail with transmission problems on the assembly line
Wrong the 2.2 ecotec is a reliable engine I have a 02 Cavalier with the 2.2 and manual trans it has 235k miles and runs like a dream. I have seen many Cavaliers, sunfires, saturns with that engine with over 300k miles. If you take care of it it will last
Bahahaha
02 wouldn't be an eco tech. That should be the good 2.2. They were known for headgaskets leaking to the outside by cyl 4. Keep the coolant topped off and they run a long time
@@veteranheavyequipmechanic4990 mine says ecotec in the engine. I drive it 400-500 miles a week for work and it runs great for a 17 year old car. I also take great care of it nothing but full synthetic
@Brayam Valdez exactly finally someone said it, same with the 2200 pushrod engine that replaced it.
@@803hotshot8 you're a lucky one then
215,000 miles on my 2.2 Ecotec on my 2008 Cobalt and still going strong. I think they're one of the best 4 cylinders GM ever used.
Bahahaha
I have the 08 cobalt with same motor I hope it makes at least half as long as yours . Thank you for your comment
231,000 on my O5' Sunfiire. Sold it last June for an upgrade
179k on my 05 Cobalt SS, all stock, no mods, just 93 octane and 5-6k oil changes with Mobil 1
It's a Saab motor that's why guys... Gm did not make it lol!
The 2.2 Ecotec does have issues with the timing chain, but they are super easy to replace. I've never had any issues with mine (knock on wood), but I keep mine well maintained. I think any engine will fail if you don't maintain it.
I was on the edge of my seat watching this. I was afraid Scotty was going to mention the engine in my car!
He did for me.
lol..lol
My jetta gave me 120,000 flawless miles with zero repairs and still ran and pulled like the day I bought it. I drove that car hard in the mountains in brutal winters too. My Alfa Romeo Giulia has also performed flawlessly.
LOL
The Chrysler 2.7 was the first one that came to mind
I have one. 230,000 miles and still going strong.
I didn't know about this when I was looking for used cars a few years back. Went and test drove two of them. The first one the oil light came on during the test drive. The second one the light turned on the second we turned on the car and then just gave the guy the keys back.
When it comes to the 2.7 and a few of Chrysler's other engines, DO NOT let the coolant system flushing go and do not divert from the coolant that they recommend to use.
@@BamaRailfan
You're VERY lucky, quick go to VEGAS!!
@@motorcitymanman7711 lol maybe I should!
Actually the water pump did fail catastrophically in this engine at around 190,000. Made a mess of things but nothing too severe. No bent valves or damaged pistons. New pump, chain, and tensioner and all was (and still is) well.
KITTY ALERT! (2:12), (8:25 & 9:50). Sittin' in the driveway/on the roof, watchin' the Scottster.
..instead of 8:25, didn't you mean @8:07? But thanks..
5:40 kitty jumps on celica
daveogarf; Spot on! GM's line of Ecotech engines is one of the best unpaid adverts Toyota could ever get. Went the same route you did. Never again a GM product!
I prefer v6 in-line or v8 s
Cats are THE biggest camera hogs, plus, they Always gotta inspect everything !
Ive been on the bench at a G.M dealer for 20 years. Ive seen 1 2.2L ecotec fail.
Stefano T...I'm a Automotive Technician & work at my brothers family shop and I've NEVER had a bad 2.2 or 2.4 come in for major problems..just maintenance issues..
ive got around 160k miles on my 2.4 ecotec and have never had any major problems
WOW!...I must of got a "BAD ONE" because I've got 150,000 original miles on my 2011 HHR 2.2 ECOTEC..👍
Fun fact: Chevy Vortec engines are actually cast iron versions of LS engines
3.8 series ll
Best engine I've had.
I know of a 2.2 ecojunk with 285K miles.
Timing chain went bad at 250K.
Engine didn't blow up. Still going strong.
Sorry for your troubles, but you must have a pre-2005 engine. Those are the best ones to have.
I had 2003 sold it 500 bucks with head gasket blown with 385000 miles
@@GCULPEX It's a 2005.
I bought a 2002 Olds Alero with a 2.2 L Ecotec I4 engine. After 151,000 miles, the timing chain broke and caused major damage to the engine. Until then, it had been a fun car. I changed the oil regularly.
the 2002 ,2003 and IRRC the 04 all had this issue. there was a retrofit kit to fix the timing chain oiler.
My 2.2 Gm pontiac runs well and i have owned it for over 14 years, runs quiet great, no smoke.
how many miles? just got my gramps old 2006 ion with 100k, still debating whether I should sell it off, or stick a super charger in it LOL.
Dude is nuts. The 2.2 was nick named the Iron Duke. That motor is bullet proof
Audi 2.0t is way worse than the 1.8t reliability wise, the 1.8t is almost bulletproof.
kevin, what kind of bullets are you talking about? hahahaha
I got a 98 audi a4 1.8 t quattro at auction for $1300 with 121k miles, it has a 95+ hp tune and k04 upgraded turbo it was very fast driving it back from the auction but the check engine light came on pulling in my driveway amd started bogging down its been sitting 2 years since dont know if I wanna fix it and drive it or what
@@302diamondstate7 sell it
No chance. The 1.8 was a disaster.
Agreed. Daily driving one now. Had over 200k on it with k04 and chip tune. Rebuilt the motor and have 50k. Basic maintenance and that’s it. But I also don’t have the auto trans which does give the car a bad name, but what car from that era didn’t end up with transmission problems
Scotty’s the type of guy to... wrong channel.
......give great car advice!
BAHAHAFIV
What's this a reference to?
Alex Conn9 focus on the quirks and features of a car that ACTUALLY MATTER
Thank you scotty for being out here for us! Love you man!
I love Scotty's cooky aspects! He gives amazing advice though!
Owned, bolted & beat on an L61 2.2 Ecotec daily for years. Engine never let me down once.
Same here man
Honestly late to this but I had one that I beat on daily and she started knocking. Weird and random and it still had plenty of oil. But I will say it's a great engine
I had the 2.2 Ecotec in my 2006 Saturn Ion. It started to have cylinder 3 misfire. The car had 256,000 when I sold it.
Had a 2000 Saturn with the 2.2. Had 250k when I traded it in and it ran great. And I beat the piss out of it.
@@mozeby1975 That was a much better design.
Had a sunfire in the family. The 2.2 ecotech was where gm spent the money on the car and said f the rest. I disagree with Scotty on that one.
My best friends has a Audi a4 2.0 turbo and the engine blew up on 110k becuase of the sludge build up. Poor guy...
Did he follow the 10k mile factory recommended oil change interval? I know someone that did that and fucked their engine in the A4.
HVAC-Jae 10k oil change, dumbest thing I’ve heard ! (In terms of oil changes!)
I'm really surprised you didn't mention the Cadillac Northstar engines. The threads in the block for the cylinder head bolts were not strong enough---the head bolts would then back out. Those engines blew head gaskets and cracked heads all the time. They made a thread repair kit for those that supposedly fixes the problem
I've heard the same but i've had 4 northstar caddies in a row. Damn things ran great well over 150,000 miles. I must be lucky.
@@midnightrider7648 It depends on the year. Caddy got with the program starting in '05 and revised the size and pitch of the head bolts and bolt holes in the block
justsomeguytoyou yep ....only took them 12 yrs to get around to it
Scotty I’m a big fan of you
hello and thanks!
The next episode, the top five best engines
good idea, thanks!
Let me guess: toyota, lexus, honda and mazda miata
Scotty Kilmer
Volvo 2.3 red block would have to be in the top 5 best
Toyota 1.5L 4cylinder engine.
Toyota 3.0
that 2.2 ecotec chain issue is exactly what killed my cavalier, hardly had 100k on it and we did take good care of it.
Same. 😢
The 2.2 ecotec is a really good engine if you take care of it
I knew a Chrysler was going to be on the list!
MoFart
That Chrysler PT Cruiser was the worst of the worst , my friend bought one, it lasted him 2 weeks before the gearbox eat itself lol and what an ugly design too
MDX Crafting because Chrysler is trash...we’ve known this
Yup and a Toyota wouldn't, gimme a break
@owen coleman I had two RAM's with the 4.7. 320K miles between them and never put a wrench to either one. Same with the three vehicles I have now with the 3.6VVT. 31 MPG and will outrun a Chevy 350 all day. 128K, 79K, and 30K on them and never been wrenched. Scotty had to (you know he did) go back to the mid 2000's to find *one* he could pick on.
Keep them videos coming broham I'm a young part time mechanic myself work on cars on my free time
You are one cool personality, Scott......Thanks for all the knowledge!!!!!
I have a 2005 Chevy Classic with 359,000 miles. Ecotec 2.2. I changed the timing chain for the first time ever last week. Have always changed the oil and filter at 5000 miles. The tensioner was in 3 pieces, but all the guides were intact and the chain showed very little sign of stretch. Pretty amazed it hadn't failed and was in good condition. I just changed it as a preventive measure. I've never had anything fail but for normal wear and tear parts from driving it.
Was I the only one waiting until the end when you inevitably said the Mazda 1.3 Rotary engine
Nope i can confirm the bad gas milage though.
The Ecotec engines in Saturns ran forever. GM always made good engines untill 2005. Those 2.2L I4, 3.8 L V6, 5.7 L V8 and 454 V8 ran forever.
The 3800 3.8L series 2 is nearly bullet proof. My brothers ‘04 Monte Carlo SS supercharged version of the 3800 has 292k plus miles and still runs strong. My ‘03 SS I sold at 236k miles only because I couldn’t get the evap code to go away and wouldn’t pass inspection although engine was strong, no leaks, no smoke, barely used oil.
@Buster Brown great engine, only flaw being head gaskets. you can replace them yourself though. simple engine
@@jjs777fzr you just had to get the PCM reflash done. i have it done to all of my OBD II cars. costs around $100. you have the emissions turned off, all emissions codes GONE...... no more EGR, EVAP, or any of that emissions crap. how it works is the PCM is reprogrammed to never activate the emissions control devices, but the monitors still clear.
check engine light then only activates for drive-ability issues.
@Sleeve Of Wizard that engine wasnt that bad but it did have a crappy fuel injection system..... spider harness crap
Yet, they discontinued the product. Figured GM was put off by the fact they had a product that worked.
The Audi B5 1.8T engine is great if you do something crazy like change the oil and do the timing belt maintenance, if so it will last 300K miles or more. The weak points are not the engine but things like: The plastic combi valve and other plastic plumbing parts that should have a recommended replacement interval or be changed to aluminum pieces. I love the 1.8T and I love the interior and overall look of the audi a4 B5.
4.3 Lt. GM V6 what a wonderful motor. ......bullet proof
Amen. What the hell? Way over engineered. Too much plastic! Get rid of plastic and maintain them. Honda had the same problem with the first generation civic. They were made with very tight tolerances. And in the US where we don't maintain our cars. Same way with early VW 1.8. Excellent engine, but don't overheat it or there goes your headgasket. People are worse now.. If it breaks. Throw it out, get a new one. New model? Have to have it! Zombie Apocalypse? I wish. It would be a good form of natural human selection.
I remember about 27 yrs ago, a kid came by my house saying his RX 7 died. Says it threw a rod and if u could help. Asked how many miles and he said 70k. I said yup, that's about right for them to go! Scotty's words on the Mazda rotary engine reminded me of this.
I have 2004 Chevy cavalier 5 speed manual with 2.2 ecotec 220,000 miles runs great biggest thing I had to do was change the clutch
My automatic with 130,000 miles is still going strong. I hope i get 220,000. that would be great!
I had a Pontiac g5 2.2 ecotech if you change your oil will last forever. Scrapped at 256000 km due to rust. Engine burned no oil no leaks.
My 03 eco has 145k. Still strong
My 2006 automatic ecotec engined vauxhall astra had 123k on it and would have easily gone for another 200k if the steering rack hadn't started leaking and would have cost me a fortune to fix. The engines themselves provide you look after them are bulletproof
Yep. Same car, same repair.. 209,000 miles on mine.
You want reliability? Buy a bicycle.
And that's only as reliable as person riding it. Lol
Sorry not reliable my tires allways get flat and chain jumps of and chews my geans up
@Danny M someone told me that Kmart's bicycles were top notch made in THE USA.
@@alfredodelapaz7477 you edited your comment and still spelled jeans wrong. I feel the problem is you instead of your bike.
Or a Toyota
When a customer hates and engine they hate the company. The company loses that customer multiplied by the thousands.
Scotty thank you for all your knowledge. You're the best!!!
Rev up your Molly Hatchet - Flirtin' With Disaster
Wow, I've never really disagreed with Scotty, but I have a 06 Malibu with the 2.2 with 225k miles and I absolutely love it. Never had a problem with the car other than usual maintenance.
Infact this was my first car (got it in '09) and I still own it and drive it 😁. However I have heard that about timing chain for years, I've always used full synthetic oil and wix filters since the car had 90k miles. So maybe that's the reason for my good luck.
Because you keep up the maintenance
My wife drives a 2005 Saturn Ion with the 2.2L. We have had zero issues with this engine. Car is at approx. 150,000 miles. I've heard about the 2.4L having a lot of problems, but not the 2.2...The majority of opinions on the 2.2 have been positive (until Scotty's video, of course).
Funny, I bought my first car in 09, 05 Malibu with the 3.5L V6. Bought it with 44k miles. Up to 252k now.
I've got an 05 Malibu with the 3.5 V6 and it's still doing good at 127k! No major complaints, though it does have a small ticking noise. And it has been burning oil for the last couple years. I guess it's the valve guide seals, but I just keep filling it up and it keeps going!
@@timhahn7542 Really? Wow. Mine is noise free and I floor it everyday. I use Mobil 1 full syn and change the oil every 3-4k miles. Do you use cheap gas?
Scotty is always informative! Great guy!
2008 Lincoln mkZ 3.5L V6 with the timing chain assembly around the water pump is snaking me Papa Killer. Why Ford, why???
I’ve had a Golf GTI 1.8t for years with absolutely no issues, just simple regular servicing. They’re generally regarded as pretty bomb proof and very tuneable. My car is 20 years old and drives great... I’m in the U.K. though, they’re common here with plenty of people around to look after them properly.
I had a Audi S3 with the same engine, tuned to 245bhp. It was driven like I stole it at more then 140 miles per hour on the higway all the time. Had zero problems with the car. Powerful and reliable engine
The new GTI's, sold in the USA, are extremely unreliable. (Fun though!)
Shawn Doe that is simply not true. Gtis have a trackrecord of being the most reliable cars in class. The 2.0 tsi can withstand up to 600 hp. It is a great engine, hence why it is so widespread within the vag group. The only real problem ist oil consumption in higher mileage cars, due to carbon buildup in the piston rings. The crankcase ventilation system also fails regularly. Its a 50$ pArt and you can exchange it yourself. So tell your lies to someone else boy...
@@mabrokenleg2388 Dear Casual, GTI's aren't even in the top 10 for reliability, much less the top of their class. Review the data, fan BOY.
@@shawndoe3594 I'm an American and I can say Americans rely too much on expertise of others, i.e. dealer who have no interest if ones cars are running for the long run. They win either way in costly repairs or new cars.
I drive a 20 years old GTI and my experience has been that engines are strong and transmission is fine, but the car doesn't last because the cooling system cannot handle the heat from engine and transmission especially as the car ages. Same goes for most or all German turbocharged cars. Just not enough cooling.
I think there are plenty worse engines than the GM 2.2 ecotec.
I had a cobalt with that motor , beat the living crap out of it for years and it never gave me any motor issues except 02 sensors
I have one in my 05 Cobalt and it's still going strong. The transmission went bad way back but the engine is all good
Had a 2004 caviler with 285,000 miles and still kept good. Lasted longer than the transmission
Yep my 2.2 is a good 1 ('08 Cobalt). Working on 172,000 and hoping for more. Changed oil every 4k and NEVER let it run low on oil.
I worked at a GM dealership for 5 years. Never had to fix the 2.2L ecotecs.
Scotty, I had a 2004 Pontiac Grand Am with the 2.2 Ecotec, I actually had the car almost 6 years, until I sold it, it had almost 240k miles on it, and had never had a problem out of it, except for 3 starters and an alternator. (Oil changed every 3k miles, at 175k switched to synthetic blend dexos oil)
Stefano Dawg maintain it, keep up on the oil changes, should run for a long time
Stefano Dawg I had to get a new motor of Chevy mablui 2006
Scotty, I can hardly watch your videos through my laughing tears. Your delivery is so great! Thanks for sharing your intellect and experience and for making it so fun!
His delivery is probably better than his knowledge OR opinions...…….
Rotary motors are excellent for racing. They are terrible for a commuter car. Rumors say Mazda is still trying to make them work. Maybe they will find a way, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Yes, they are supposedly making a SkyActive Rotary, and SkyActive Diesel. Don't ask me why.
With twin turbos and a few other mods they are awesome for drifting.
I heard they were going to try to use a rotary as a gas generator for an EV type of vehicle, like the Chevy volt does
As for the Cadillac 8 6 4 some ran great people loved them unfortunately no one could figure out why so the vast majority we're problem to nightmare. Rotary engines are great at high RPM the aircraft engines don't need the seals that are such a maintenance problem on cars, they should work well as a fixed speed generator engine.
@@robertstoneking7916 Also in plane the engine have a reduce engine speed and since no cat you can run more oil in it to protect them and aviation gas is lightly lead fuel.
Don't like the cylinder deactivation system if you want a V8 then it should always be ran as a V8. If you want better gas mileage get a v6 or 4 cylinder just my opinion
Fwiw,
My 4.8 V8 in half ton 08 Silvy gets full 3 mpg better milage then V6 in Colorado Canyon small truck,,
Looks like GM engineers realy fked up those new trucks
s3xyScorp I know exactly what you mean. It makes me laugh to see the poor mpg numbers on mid size trucks today when my 04 Silverado 4.8l V8 full size can get the same mpgs even with 130k miles on it
Exactly it’s so stupid, people literally pay to get rid of it like stop start on new cars so why do they bother to put it there to begin with
Cadillac “deathstar” engine. The king of all lousy Gm engines.
Never knew North 🌟 was Rubbish... Always thought the caddy V8 was nice till I got older...
The 307 was pretty crapular.
@@rontam06 472, 501, 429's were good. 50 years ago.
I pray to live to see the day when there are no more Northstars on the road and I will crack open a beer and smile
The bugs were worked out by 2005. My Deville is reliable, powerful, and gets 27mpg at 79 mph.
Early versions crap, yes.
Well thanks Scotty - I never researched it, but I always wondered why the rotary never took off!👍
I am surprised that Scotty did not mention the Hyundai/Kia Theta II Engine. That engine was trash from day one.
2005 chevy aveo should be on the list.
The v6 quad that they put in the sante fes were trash even if you changed the timing belt as recommended it was a really pricey and pia job I wouldn't buy one if you paid me
he didnt have to...... all kia Hyundai engines are just junk made to last 2 years in china then get scrapped.
Absolutely those engines are blowing up on the highway, huge recall. The Ecotec in contrast when maintained is pretty decent. Now for truck engines, 5.4L triton chain tensioners leak, lack of oil pressure to head is not good!! Can phasers fall apart..Lots of complaints from mecanics
The 1.8t is one of the best vw engines ever....
Atleast here in europe, they are great to reprogram, tune with no money. Ive seen a chiptuned audi a3 to 230hp that has 400.000km and still running smooth
I need to do that!!
My brother had that 1.8 liter turbo in his Jetta and it was a complete bloody disaster. Those engine coil issues Scotty talked about he had those problems. It's an engineering flaw that once they fail they can never be fixed just replaced endlessly. You must have been one of the lucky ones
Same here. Have 2 a4s with the 1.8 with a light chip and regular oil changes theyre awesome. Not a single issue the past 9 yrs.
Yep I had a 2001.5 Passat and it was an awesome little car! Plenty of power and peppy, looked beautiful, smooth ride.... so a coil pack misfired every once in a while no biggie. I kept 2 spare coils and a screwdriver in the trunk. No major issues.
I lost it in a wreck 2013 (not my fault) and still miss that silver bullet
The engine is not that bad,the electronics and so much rubber hose is what is the mess,you will live riding in the back of a tow truck
Looking for the cat in Scotty's video became my ritual. Hide and Seek!!!
Great to know the manuels are still available. I used them in past andthank you for reminding me of them.
I own a 2010 Ford E250 cargo van and a 2012 chevy Colorado WT
Know quite a few people with 2.2 with no issues including me keep oil changed and change timing every 100k
My first car Saturn l200 had 2.2 ecotech in it kept good oil in it never had a problem
Yea treat the chain like a belt. Every 50K to be safe. You also want the newer tensioner and guides etc.
The 2.2 a garbage engine????? Holy hell the ecotec/duratec engines are Rock solid!!! I have had 2 go well over 200k and still run like a top!!! Why do you think 95-05 cavaliers are still on the road? Exactly. Great engines.....everything else will fall apart but the engines will still be putting along hahahahah.
I drove my Cobalt hard every day as a taxi for MONTHS... No issues...
Scottie’s sponsored by Ford, I’m surprised no one has caught onto that
92 to 02 were pushrod 2.2, after that they went to ecotec in cav and cobalt. Both engines ran great for me and many people I know
Leo Derosia Malibu’s as well
I had a cobalt with that motor and I pounded on it every single day for about 3 years , never ever had a motor issue except 02 sensor and it had 230 thousand miles
My 2.2L ECO Tech engine in my cavalier lasted 230k miles and 16 years with no problems. Never did anything to it. Never quit, till I eventually traded it in.
You should do a whole video on the 2.7, the water pump would also leak into the oil and other problems.
The chevy ecotec engine is very good ! My mom sold one at 250,000 and I sold mine which was my first car at 200,000. Never had problems with the engine. The cavalier inteiro did fall apart thou
exactly these 2.2 engines outlive the cars frame and body etc lol
haha so true, cavalier was my first car and there was not much left of the interior but the engine ran great and never gave me any issues
Was it a 2.2L? Could’ve been an EcoTec V6
Your mom sells used ecotec engines......cool
same here, 2006 Ion, 2.2L 5 speed. fun car to drive and a very reliable engine. the rest of the car is getting rotted out though and falling apart lmao. I'm definitely going to be saving that engine though for something else.
2:10 nice cat
it's funny how you guys always notice that
Scotty Kilmer Scotty, we are worse than a bunch of nosy neighbors
Regarding the 2.2 L Ecotec, I've been driving a 2007 Chevy Cobalt for 11 years (now has 177k) miles and haven't had a single problem with the engine.
Jordan Rovny my mates had the vw 1.8 for ages now and same thing, just because he takes care of it I guess
You're just lucky Jordan Rovny.
My 2008 Cobalt blew its engine last summer at 101k miles. Why GM wasn't sued for not recalling these engines is beyond me...
@@scootergreen3 I drive gently and am timely on maintenance.
You are smart Jordan Rovny. That makes it easy on a car's engine and transmission and makes it all last longer. I do the same thing on a 2000 Toyota Camry as I have done on all my cars since I got over 30 years old. I was aways a Chevy man. I had a new 74 Monte Carlo 454. Of course I drove it fast and hard on the highway because it was fun but after a spun bearing and a new engine and transmission I learned. I have babied my cars ever since. Older ladies who are unwise make fun of me for taking off easy but you and I know what's best for a car to make them last.
I'm driving a 2003 Pontiac Sunfire with the 2.2L Ecotec. 259,000 miles. It runs and drives like new. I don't know why Scotty is picking on that engine.
Lol got damn. Still runnin her?
@@slimhavoc4290 Yup. Up to 287,000 miles. Still runs and drives like it's new.(I replaced all four struts and fixed the usual things. Engine and tranny are still strong and never needed repair).
@@Ray-lv7hm noice. I got a 2008 g5 2.2 with 159,000 on it they are good strong engines. I need new tie rods too lol
@@slimhavoc4290 I did one of the tie rods on mine. It's not easy, but you can do it too .