West Ham has always been a rough & tough place to be owing the fact of the East End being regarded as the 'Dark heart of London, riddled with it's crime, poverty & deprivation. From it's Working class roots, aided by the high influx of immigration built around the Docks & it's Railway, all helped to make a very sinister underbelly in a Tight-knit community. West Ham's crew starting to grow from then on and after the pitch invasion after the '75 Final at Wembley, they also started to become more organised. When they got relegated in 1978, the Mob had (practically) free reign to cause Havoc & Mayhem were ever they went. The 80's, 90's & onwards, the ICF was always associated with football hooliganism
Your wrong before that took a mob on bank holiday Monday to the Alamo done the business there . On way back stopped off at Rorkes Drift had a tear up with Zulus and don’t mean Brum .
Total rubbish. I was in the Holte End that day, there was no hint of trouble for Villa. If a few West Ham kids got into the Holte End they must have been easily been dealt. We could see that there was trouble in the Witton End, with something metallic catching the sunlight. I was told on the train back to Euston by a West Ham supporter that it was a woman from one of the tea bars at the back of terrace with a hiting out with a metal tray. That as big of them, having go at the tea lady. West Ham also took a battering on the pitch, with four second half goals from Ray Graydon and Andy Gray. It was a typical Summer of '76 sunny day, a 39,000 crowd, and West Ham did not mount a decent attack all afternoon, anywhere.
I've read. Villa fans refuse to accept west ham Chelsea spurs did try the holte end....I know these villa don't know....why....bcoz I was part of Chelsea that tried in the 70s
The only team who tried it after 1 .30 was Arsenal ,who came in 3 o’clock ,they got battered ,but fair play to them .The rest of this coming in the Holte is Internet bullshit ,fact .
March/April 1979 if I recall correctly, I was 14, me and a gang from our school were in the ground early because we were skint. It kicked off well before the game did so The Holte was half empty.
CFC did take the Holte in 1978....from what I can remember it was our last away game that season and we were already relegated at Easter....last big show in the 1st Div before causing mayhem in the 2nd for a few years.
Only ever seen 4 teams contest the Holte End, Arsenal, West Brom, Birmingham and Glasgow Rangers, all in the late '60's and early '70's, in my experience the only teams that can claim to have "taken the Holte" are Birmingham and Rangers. Arsenal fans failed and were escorted around the pitch to the Witton End by the Police, they all looked very young and seemed glad to be out of it, I don't think they realised the size of the Holte as Villa had only recently been in the old 3rd Div, small group of West Brom fans were prevented from advancing into the centre of the Holte by the Police and kept to one side. Birmingham fans got into the Holte early and occupied the centre of the Holte until Villa scored and then Villa fans pushed them back and Police then formed a cordon down the centre of the Holte keeping them apart. Glasgow Rangers are the only team that can claim to have taken the Holte however it was not "Scotland the Brave", it was a "friendly match" which no one in Birmingham took much notice of (I couldn't even be be bothered to go myself) however 14,000 drunken Glaswegians treated it like an invasion of England and came down the night before. After looting the shops in Birmingham for bottles of whiskey they went into the Holte early, my brother arrived 10 minutes before the match was due to start and said that it was "like Hampden Park before a Scottish International match", there was barely any room to move, fighting and pitch invasions ensued and things were so bad, the match was abandoned after 20 minutes.
Have to add that before the Birmingham fans heads start swelling Villa took their end in 1969. In those days the Blues end was the Tilton Road End, the Spion Kop stand being to big for them, I was in the Railway End and watched in amazement as the Villa Boys started chanting in the Tilton, Police quickly formed a cordon around them as they stood there for the whole match much to the rage of the Blue Noses. Villa were relegated to the old 3rd Division that year but still won the match 2-1 which further enraged the Small Heathens.
I remember Arsenal in the 70s come in early and came up the right hand side of the Holte, but were got rid of quick, Birmingham came in early and stayed in Holte for the whole game, in the 70s, I remember a night game in the 70s when some Foxs fans, came into the left hand side of the Holte and stayed there singing by the light of the silvery moon, but the one i do remember i was about 13, and i was standing at the top of the Holte, leaning against the wall where you go down to get a drink, and Millwall come running up the stairs from the very back of the Holte and it kick off big time, i was crush against the wall, and this big guy saved me from sure death i could not breath, then the police wadded into them with batons, and stopped them, but there stayed there for the match. I remember Pete the Greek and the Steamers mob got fed up with the Holte end and moved to the, Witton end and i remember standing in the Holte watching them run West ham all over the place. The good old days of the 1970s.
I remember them coming to Burnley trying the same thing,they got kicked from the top of the longside onto the pitch !!! We call em southern softies for a reason 🤣 never forget one of them in army fatigues the moment he realised they had come unstuck and my mates howling with laughter as I picked him off the floor dusting him down and helping him escape onto the pitch.
Bless ya u still making up stories Tony 🙄 think pulp done a song for People like u think it was the stories of a charmless man something like that !%%%u get Southern softys u fkin Herbert 🥸🫵
it weren't 1976 or the icf , it was the under fives that day , it was like a mexican wave with the villa running away until they realised they were kids
Rubbish. I clearly remember the day we formed the ICF. It was at the FA Cup Final of 1966 between Everton and Sheffield Wednesday. Both their firms had been mocking London, se we decided to teach them a lesson. There were 40 of us and we decided to split up in groups of 10. Me and my nine mates infiltrated the Everton fans behind the goal. 15 minutes before kick-off, we yelled ICF and stormed towards the biggest and toughest of the Everton mob. There were 65,000 of them but after we knocked the first 158 of them out, they ran. Meanwhile on the other end, the group of 10 ICF started belting the Sheffield Wednesday mob, all 97,000 thousand of them. It didn't take long before they fled onto the pitch. But that was just the start. We still had two groups of 10, one on each of the side stands. On one side Chelsea and Tottenham had gathered. As soon as the 10 yelled ICF, 153,000 Chelsea and Tottenham went for them, but the 10 stood their ground and within 2 minutes they had taken the stand, with their opponents running outside. On the other side, 287,000 Millwall had seen what happened and once they recognised the 10 ICF in their stands, they charged at them. Intense fighting ensued, but 2 ICF from our side surprised them by attacking them from the other side and it didn't take long before we saw their fans scattered over the stands, blood flowing everywhere, with the rest of them fleeing onto the pitch, from where the police escorted them out for their own safety. I clearly remember this. There is even footage of the match on youtube. All the other fans had fled, the game was played in front of just the 40 of us, doing victory laps across the stands for the entire 90 minutes.
Fair play but 45 yr undefeated cmon any itk lad wud admit every firm has had a off day " holte end massive but my old man uncles and plenty other bluenose rangers really caused it many moons ago
There's another video on this channel saying the ICF was born in 1973. On this one it's 1976. this doesn't give great confidence in the accuracy of the accounts.
1984/5, they sat trembling and quivering in the Trinity Road seats. Mob of 50 ICF bottled it when they looked up at the HOLTE and saw our huge mob at the back....rough, tough working class lads....ICF lost their nerve and bottled it. 69/70...this huge Villa mob stormed out of the Tilton Road End and into the Blues Kop at the St. Andrews local derby... it was the time of the skinheads and boot boys. Blue lads fled along the Kop and got backed into the Clock corner. Villa Army the did the bouncy-bouncy in the middle of the Kop at the top....whilst the Villa hard men dished it out good and proper. And a tidy 2-0 win sealed a fine day for the Aston Villa 15,000 boot boy army.
Cheeky bastard at Sheffield united trust me mate a good few have come unstuck against bbc / shoreham republican army we can hold our own with anyone on our best day
Villa and Birmingham were training for us in the 70's and 80's and all the Midland's clubs to be honest. I've been going to West Ham since 69 and never once ever have any second city wankers had a pop at us at Upton park or London stadium. Peaky Blinders I shit em. Have a good weekend.
West Ham has always been a rough & tough place to be owing the fact of the East End being regarded as the 'Dark heart of London, riddled with it's crime, poverty & deprivation.
From it's Working class roots, aided by the high influx of immigration built around the Docks & it's Railway, all helped to make a very sinister underbelly in a Tight-knit community.
West Ham's crew starting to grow from then on and after the pitch invasion after the '75 Final at Wembley, they also started to become more organised. When they got relegated
in 1978, the Mob had (practically) free reign to cause Havoc & Mayhem were ever they went. The 80's, 90's & onwards, the ICF was always associated with football hooliganism
I thought ICF came of age when they stormed La Bombonera and 50 of them ran 57,000 Boca fans. Seriously, who makes this stuff up?
Jackanory jack Amory 😊
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Your wrong before that took a mob on bank holiday Monday to the Alamo done the business there . On way back stopped off at Rorkes Drift had a tear up with Zulus and don’t mean Brum .
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story 😂😂
Total rubbish.
I was in the Holte End that day, there was no hint of trouble for Villa. If a few West Ham kids got into the Holte End they must have been easily been dealt.
We could see that there was trouble in the Witton End, with something metallic catching the sunlight. I was told on the train back to Euston by a West Ham supporter that it was a woman from one of the tea bars at the back of terrace with a hiting out with a metal tray. That as big of them, having go at the tea lady.
West Ham also took a battering on the pitch, with four second half goals from Ray Graydon and Andy Gray. It was a typical Summer of '76 sunny day, a 39,000 crowd, and West Ham did not mount a decent attack all afternoon, anywhere.
thats crap too you went out faster than you came in i was there left side holte hardly any punches thrown.
@@jamieoliver3262
@@jamieoliver3262villa kids on the pitch end of season celebration, different story outside.
Wolves far better than your lot as were City you were on a par with westbrom not very good EVER !%%%
Undefeated for 100 years.. no 1000 years.. no.....
West ham fans don't always just blow bubbles, they talk bubbles.
What an absolute load of bullshit
I've read. Villa fans refuse to accept west ham Chelsea spurs did try the holte end....I know these villa don't know....why....bcoz I was part of Chelsea that tried in the 70s
The only team who tried it after 1 .30 was Arsenal ,who came in 3 o’clock ,they got battered ,but fair play to them .The rest of this coming in the Holte is Internet bullshit ,fact .
March/April 1979 if I recall correctly, I was 14, me and a gang from our school were in the ground early because we were skint. It kicked off well before the game did so The Holte was half empty.
CFC did take the Holte in 1978....from what I can remember it was our last away game that season and we were already relegated at Easter....last big show in the 1st Div before causing mayhem in the 2nd for a few years.
@@chelseachelseaboy total bollocks .some were in there about 1 .30 when all the young kids were there .Out in 5 mins .well done .
@@chelseachelseaboy The Chelsea Headhunters certainly had a fearsome reputation in the 70's and well beyond.
West Ham were the top firm ,but this is complete bullshit .
Icf were a top firm an were taking everywhere a little challenge at Upton Park. Villa didn’t attempt to move them from the south bank in 1980 cup
What a remarkable imagination some of you Northern fellows possess.
Burnley indeed.
Only ever seen 4 teams contest the Holte End, Arsenal, West Brom, Birmingham and Glasgow Rangers, all in the late '60's and early '70's, in my experience the only teams that can claim to have "taken the Holte" are Birmingham and Rangers.
Arsenal fans failed and were escorted around the pitch to the Witton End by the Police, they all looked very young and seemed glad to be out of it, I don't think they realised the size of the Holte as Villa had only recently been in the old 3rd Div, small group of West Brom fans were prevented from advancing into the centre of the Holte by the Police and kept to one side.
Birmingham fans got into the Holte early and occupied the centre of the Holte until Villa scored and then Villa fans pushed them back and Police then formed a cordon down the centre of the Holte keeping them apart.
Glasgow Rangers are the only team that can claim to have taken the Holte however it was not "Scotland the Brave", it was a "friendly match" which no one in Birmingham took much notice of (I couldn't even be be bothered to go myself) however 14,000 drunken Glaswegians treated it like an invasion of England and came down the night before.
After looting the shops in Birmingham for bottles of whiskey they went into the Holte early, my brother arrived 10 minutes before the match was due to start and said that it was "like Hampden Park before a Scottish International match", there was barely any room to move, fighting and pitch invasions ensued and things were so bad, the match was abandoned after 20 minutes.
Have to add that before the Birmingham fans heads start swelling Villa took their end in 1969.
In those days the Blues end was the Tilton Road End, the Spion Kop stand being to big for them, I was in the Railway End and watched in amazement as the Villa Boys started chanting in the Tilton, Police quickly formed a cordon around them as they stood there for the whole match much to the rage of the Blue Noses.
Villa were relegated to the old 3rd Division that year but still won the match 2-1 which further enraged the Small Heathens.
I thought Chelsea took the Holte end? 1978
@@mickhavermans7319 Not to my knowledge but I could be wrong it was a long time ago and I'm just a bystander not a part of any firm.
No problem m8👍,yeah Chelsea did.
@@mickhavermans7319 scattered em 91 anorl last game of the season!%%%
I remember Arsenal in the 70s come in early and came up the right hand side of the Holte, but were got rid of quick, Birmingham came in early and stayed in Holte for the whole game, in the 70s, I remember a night game in the 70s when some Foxs fans, came into the left hand side of the Holte and stayed there singing by the light of the silvery moon, but the one i do remember i was about 13, and i was standing at the top of the Holte, leaning against the wall where you go down to get a drink, and Millwall come running up the stairs from the very back of the Holte and it kick off big time, i was crush against the wall, and this big guy saved me from sure death i could not breath, then the police wadded into them with batons, and stopped them, but there stayed there for the match. I remember Pete the Greek and the Steamers mob got fed up with the Holte end and moved to the, Witton end and i remember standing in the Holte watching them run West ham all over the place. The good old days of the 1970s.
Do west ham ever admit to getting done? Undefeated in 30 years 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He literally just mentioned beatings at Liverpool and Sheff United.
Never at home ⚒
@@fredericklee6899 Really? Night of the Balaclavas. The ICF have always been proper but everyone got done at some time home or away.
They got run at Alkmar last season, West Ham are full of shit
Sit down shut up silly bollocks
I was there with a load of villa lads called the c.crew awesome it was a point in my life where I belonged
Only people to take the Holte was Glasgow Rangers, cos there was 20,000 of them in the Holte,
Doesn't really count if you're in there before the home fans in your 1000s for a pre season "friendly".
Glasgow rangers 18 thousand crowd a friendly or supposed to have been 12 thousand rangers in the holte well before the game started.
They were in there before anyone else.
If there in there however or wotever then they took it
@@easygroove3204🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
They were crazy day,s back then to even go in to a rival teams home end you would need sum bottle or a big chip
I remember them coming to Burnley trying the same thing,they got kicked from the top of the longside onto the pitch !!! We call em southern softies for a reason 🤣 never forget one of them in army fatigues the moment he realised they had come unstuck and my mates howling with laughter as I picked him off the floor dusting him down and helping him escape onto the pitch.
Tony stop with the Fibs.
Then you woke up, you Muppet
Bless ya u still making up stories Tony 🙄 think pulp done a song for People like u think it was the stories of a charmless man something like that !%%%u get Southern softys u fkin Herbert 🥸🫵
@@harry2bells was it you harry 🤣
What ?, 3,000 chased 150 out of THEIR END?, you tough northerners 😂😂😂😂!.
Absolute bollox…..! ⚒
Bullshit.Man.U tried takin it in the 80's we only got as far as corner
Numbers but no balls
@@marcellos9208..no.1 firm in the 70s & 80s..fact!!🤬👹
ICF made there names at the cocky rejects 20 ICF Vs 200 at gig up north
The Cedar Tree ~ Birmingham
come to newcastle petrol was cheap then
it weren't 1976 or the icf , it was the under fives that day , it was like a mexican wave with the villa running away until they realised they were kids
Where do the name under fives come from
I spotted Danny Harrison and Si Spanner!
Halter end?
They smashed a phone box up
That’s true there was a photo of your mum in it
Rubbish. I clearly remember the day we formed the ICF. It was at the FA Cup Final of 1966 between Everton and Sheffield Wednesday. Both their firms had been mocking London, se we decided to teach them a lesson. There were 40 of us and we decided to split up in groups of 10. Me and my nine mates infiltrated the Everton fans behind the goal. 15 minutes before kick-off, we yelled ICF and stormed towards the biggest and toughest of the Everton mob. There were 65,000 of them but after we knocked the first 158 of them out, they ran.
Meanwhile on the other end, the group of 10 ICF started belting the Sheffield Wednesday mob, all 97,000 thousand of them. It didn't take long before they fled onto the pitch. But that was just the start. We still had two groups of 10, one on each of the side stands. On one side Chelsea and Tottenham had gathered. As soon as the 10 yelled ICF, 153,000 Chelsea and Tottenham went for them, but the 10 stood their ground and within 2 minutes they had taken the stand, with their opponents running outside.
On the other side, 287,000 Millwall had seen what happened and once they recognised the 10 ICF in their stands, they charged at them. Intense fighting ensued, but 2 ICF from our side surprised them by attacking them from the other side and it didn't take long before we saw their fans scattered over the stands, blood flowing everywhere, with the rest of them fleeing onto the pitch, from where the police escorted them out for their own safety.
I clearly remember this. There is even footage of the match on youtube. All the other fans had fled, the game was played in front of just the 40 of us, doing victory laps across the stands for the entire 90 minutes.
Them magic mushrooms are strong lad. 😵😂
No point doing a video about spurs being in the north bank, cos we wer,e in there every year,ttid
Now I've heard it all. Hilarious and completely delusional 🤣 😂 😆
The most illiterate vids on youtube. Hilarious.
Some of you lot remind me of the 2bob firm in film "warriors" kept their own press clippings!😂COYI
Fair play but 45 yr undefeated cmon any itk lad wud admit every firm has had a off day " holte end massive but my old man uncles and plenty other bluenose rangers really caused it many moons ago
Spoke to many friends icf told me theyve come unstook at burnley words from old icf boys fact ☘☘☘☘🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
i was there that day and it wasn't 1976
I'm sure it was 1980?
@@harry2bells i think you are right mate , i was 18 at the time
It was 1980, when Villa came in they run WHU all over the Holte then Police stopped it I got arrested that day .big fine and ban.
Aston villa couldn't run a bath.
Alter?.
Mechanical voice!
ICF 1976😂😂😂😂
ICF wasn't about in 1976
@@Bob50001 NEVER 🤔
Holte a end ???
Did you mean "an end" ?
I was there. West ham got battered utv
ICF Hop Pickers took their annual working holidays in Kent and East Sussex and were total low life!
Low life how
Best end in country the Holte standing room fantastic, seats as fucked it
Could've heard a pin drop on Tuesday night ... utm
There's another video on this channel saying the ICF was born in 1973. On this one it's 1976. this doesn't give great confidence in the accuracy of the accounts.
This Chanel is just a load of old tripe ,,, total fantacy 😳
They tried this at my club around 1979 ,,,,it ended up them screaming at the police for protection ,,,😅
Undefeated what a load of bollcks
Who is your club?
@@russbangs6665 Accrington academicals
1984/5, they sat trembling and quivering in the Trinity Road seats. Mob of 50 ICF bottled it when they looked up at the HOLTE
and saw our huge mob at the back....rough, tough working class lads....ICF lost their nerve and bottled it.
69/70...this huge Villa mob stormed out of the Tilton Road End and into the Blues Kop at the St. Andrews local derby...
it was the time of the skinheads and boot boys. Blue lads fled along the Kop and got backed into the Clock corner.
Villa Army the did the bouncy-bouncy in the middle of the Kop at the top....whilst the Villa hard men dished it out good and proper.
And a tidy 2-0 win sealed a fine day for the Aston Villa 15,000 boot boy army.
@@malthusXIII-fo3ep Load of f'kn bollocks, but you'd have been around when Blues took the Holte in 67, you couldn't get it back.
Deluded
Cheeky bastard at Sheffield united trust me mate a good few have come unstuck against bbc / shoreham republican army we can hold our own with anyone on our best day
Villa and Birmingham were training for us in the 70's and 80's and all the Midland's clubs to be honest. I've been going to West Ham since 69 and never once ever have any second city wankers had a pop at us at Upton park or London stadium.
Peaky Blinders I shit em.
Have a good weekend.
More bullshit ,we had 6000 at Upton Park for fa cup game .Try again UTV
Go with your mother and aunt and uncle?
Wow 6000 you say and what did you achieve?
Nothing as well you know.
Zulu warriors!
@@harry2bells Zulu Warriors 😂
@@clario2178 Lulu worriers.
@@harry2bells Lulu worriers.