Just another Seiko chrono, or something more? Seiko Speedtimer SSC813P1 Review
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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Checking out the Panda dial Seiko Speedtimer SSC813P1 /SBDL085. I also try out some of the best straps for the Seiko Speedtimer. This video contains straps and accessories that were given to me for free by brands, which is why the "Paid Promotions" flag is shown in this video.
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Hey Dave i just got a notification by fake channel impersonating you saying i won (spinnaker givaway you did one month ago) i was rather relieved once i realized it was a scam... I didn't want to win that watch lol.
Credit to you for linking to other watch reviewers on YT, Dave. That’s a very nice collegiate touch.
24 hour sub dial? If it does count 24 hours then thats brilliant for 24 hour races. Clearly youve never heard of 24 hours of le mans or nurburgring?! This watch would really perform in those circumstances. Not only because it is solar. Which charges under any light they say. But that it wont have any spring deviation or requiring of charging where a rolex would. Meaning this is extremely accurate for racing.
In terms of calculating velocities. 24 hours is probably used to divide acceleration into geological positioning as well. Making that easier. Ive never been trained to use a chronograph. But the ability to have 24 increments helps navigate on foot too. Im sure that in space. And the farther away from earth you get. The 24 hour sub dial helps calculate your position and the rotation of earth. Counter to your movements.
Also its great for military time.
Do you review micro brands?
Everyone complains about the price for a Seiko, yet they think a stainless steel Rolex with similar specs is worth $10K
I love the looks too but only if it accurate time. So many of my Seikos are off within a few days. I get tired of constantly setting the Seiko watches. Rolex has crazy accurate time and I’m not late to appointments
@@michaelsorrentino3346 that’s where you use your phone’s alarm for your appointments
Similar specs? Don't think Rolex offering quartz watches. Why compare an automatic movement to solar quartz, they are not even comparable. Seiko has many solid and good models but this specific one is definitely overpriced. AND yes an automatic movement seiko with similar specs to Swiss watches also gonna cost you few thousand dollars.
@@michaelsorrentino3346 this is a quartz, you'll only have to set it like twice a year
Well yes, but it's about "prestige" with a Rolex, and showing off how much money you have.
Or they'll start bringing up some obscure microbrand that has a similar chrono that's been sold out for ages.
The 24 hour dial comes from the precious iteration of the speedtimer, which is one of the few watches that have gone to space. A 24 hour dial is highly useful for those who can't tell the time of day by the light left.
As for me, I really don't mind it one bit.
Bro, the original Speedtimer didn't come with a 24hr subdial.
Dang it, production on your videos has really improved over time, enjoyed the whole video.
Fun fun review … to the point crisp and clear!! Could you please also suggest the size for the aftermarket straps…thank you.
Hey Dave, love the video.
You really stepped up your game. The quality of this review was excellent. Like the camera angle in the beginning (the all around the watch shot) and the strap show during the review. Thank you, Dave, you are getting real good at this.
and showing off his yellow fever passport
I dont know why Seiko does that but when you live in Norway as i do a 24 hour dial is very useful.
As in Norway when the sun is up 24 hours at summertime and in the wintertime you dont see the sun for several months a 24 hour subdial is very useful.
Useless if you live in a normal country.
@@japd7897 And what is a normal country?
@@karstenstormiversen4837 The one Norwegians choose for holidays ☀😎🌊.
@@japd7897 So you mean the rest of the world since us Norwegians goes on holiday all over the world!
But you can forget Sweden,Finland,
@@karstenstormiversen4837 The country MOST Norwegians choose for holidays.
Totally agree re. the 24hr sub-dial. I've rejected many watches because of that useless (imho) 24hr sub-dial. Nearly all quartz chronos have it these days. . I just pass them by.. . of course they could be handy if you live high in the arctic circle. . .or a cave. . . .
24 hour sub-dial is practically useless , but we can find many of them on lower tier chronographs including many using ST19/st1901 , regardless on mechanical or quartz or meca quartz.....i especially went to buy a seiko meca quartz JDM model with 12 hour totalizer sub-dial.and not 24 hour (AM/PM) sub dial .... as many chronograph can only measure 30 mins or 60mins and once after this timing . it is useless and it goes around not know how many rounds the hands have turned
I find it useful tbh. Sometimes I'm stuck indoors with no bearing of it being AM or PM
@@youraveragepasser-by7367 What, inside a casino, or something??
@@simonbailey2151 The one to take to Vegas 😄.
@@simonbailey2151 sometimes I stay indoors for days at a time 😂😂 I also have friends living in certain countries which get limited sunlight throughout the year so that's useful
I own this watch and love it. I purchased the watch understanding the pros & cons. I was able to purchase at the pre-order price as well. No regrets with this purchase. I have a 7.25 in wrist. I was able to achieve a great fit. Very comfortable wearing watch. Looks fantastic!
Great user feedback.
What are the cons of the watch?
What was the preorder price?
I looked at this watch but chose the Parnis Daytona homage chronograph at about one tenth of the price!
@@martinstephenson4311 ya get what you pay for.
Every time Seiko puts sapphire and a decent bracelet on a watch, the price goes through the roof.
So u can justify 15000 for A Daytona but not $700 for Seiko
@@suitedandbooted363 The watch has a nice design but that's all there is to it. For the movement and the quality, the price is a rip off. The watch is not even made in Japan yet it commands a Made in Japan price. For the same money you can get a slew of higher quality, Swiss Made, quartz chronographs.
@@BlagoP Hey Blago, any recommendations on such Swiss Made quartz chronos? I agree that the price is a bit steep on this Seiko!
@@ceja1500 he will suggest you get a technomarine or Michael kors chrono.
@@Dranreb865 🤮
It's not a bloody Daytona ffs 🙄
i got this watch a year after this video, you can now get it at a discount ($500.85 tax included usd from my local seiko dealer) it was hard to get in at 600 plus but with some discount it got a bit more palatable. i know $500 is still a lot of money for a lot of people ( i had to do mine as a layaway) but i think at this price it is a good value proposition- love the video Dave 👍🏼
I agree. They have really come down and perhaps needs some extra consideration at current prices. Just picked up mine for $398 USD. At that price it's a lot of watch and I can live with a few niggles.
Just bought one with a 25% discount. The solar cells are kind of cool actually and make for a talking point, which is always nice in a watch. The repurposing of a sub dial as a battery Meter is also a great touch. Shame the 24hr dial is not a second time zone, that would be peachy!
It wears very similar in size and weight to a Rolex seadweller 16600. Nice review
How get 25% discount
Still using it? How's the accuracy?
Accuracy is fine.
Just bought one of these here in Australia, but I got the 911P model. It was 1050AUD down to 638 AUD. Amazing value at that price
Am I the only one who thinks, that the finish and shade on the bracelet looks like it was made for a different watch?
Indeed, another reviewer pointed out that the circular brushing on the case does not match the longitudinal brushing on the bracelet.
This is a remarkably good review. Covers everything I care about and your commentary about the design is astute. In addition the videography and pacing are perfect.
Got it for $573 shipped on discount and I’m in love with it after a brief ordeal figuring out the pin and collar links for a resize. That said- I had a Tudor BB GMT before this, and this is so much more comfortable and every bit as beautiful. The aesthetics and finishing are top notch. Either the steel bracelet or a rally strap and GO. The dial on the panda is gorgeous.
Where by chance?
@@Cerberus_xxiv_ prime time shop :)
same here - got mine now after the first hype gone for $530/496€. Remember March when there was no way to buy one from the local dealers around. Funny also own a Tudor BB GMT... - we both use to have the same prey pattern :D
I picked up the gold dial (really more of a camel) and I just think it gives it a warmth that brings that bit of specialness you want. The white is lovely, but a little cold and clinical. The gold has this 70s chic to it that I think elevates the watch.
They're quality pieces, whatever the colourway. Solid feel and lovely size and shape. I'm made up with mine.
Yes, I have the golden one too and it's really beautiful
Ya, l like the golden dial, though l did chose the white one.
I have white but i agree with you, White does give you more sterile and cold feeling. However that being said both are beautiful in their own way
Good review. For me the selling points on this watch are the smooth running center hand. I try to stay away from watches with dead-beat seconds, as is common on too many quartz movements. The other selling point is the 24 hour dial. My Omega Speedmaster caliber 1045 also has a 24 hour dial. This becomes particularly useful when starting up the watch when it has not run for a while. I instantly know when it is safe to set the date. Without the 24 hour dial the only safe method is to keep turning the hands until the date changes, then turn the hands 5 more hours and set the correct date. Although this watch does not look anything like any of my caliber 6139’s, I still like it and will purchase one.
That's the only reason I like 24 hour subdials. However with this being a solar quartz, it's kind of a set it once and never have to mess with it again, so I feel like the 24 hour subdial isn't really useful in this case.
@@JusttheWatch I know what you’re saying. In 2010 I purchased a Citizen solar powered perpetual calendar. Despite seldom being in direct sunlight, it has NEVER stopped! What a workhorse! I expect your Seiko will be the same. (That citizen gets very little wrist time because of the “dead seconds” center hand. Otherwise I love the watch)
@@coffeeisgood102 I put my Citizen solar to chrono mode and so the center hand stops 😊
@@JusttheWatch The 24 hour subdial is for motorsports endurance racing. 24 hours of Daytona, Lemans, Spa etc. It's in the name itself Speedtimer.
This was an excellent review on this watch, and I liked that you showed it on a variety of straps.
Excellent show. Seiko did well in terms of aesthetics, dimensions and movement, but i agree with your points, particularly on the 24-hour subdial and the solar cells' subtle line. I'm not sure about the price as well.
24 hour sub dial is for Motorsports endurance racing, 24 hours of Daytona, Lemans, Spa. It's in the name itself, Speedtimer.
I wouldn't use an independent 24 hour sub dial to track another time zone too often but that's better than what exists currently. A 24 hour sub dial is almost completely useless for me. I'm not an astronaut, spelunker, and I don't live at the north or south pole.
I think the 24 hour sub dial is for motorsports endurance racing such as the 24 hours of Lemans and Daytona. It's name Speedtimer strongly suggests a homage to the Rolex Daytona?
I have an old “bruce lee” Speedtimer and this has nothing to do with the originals. This is just a daytona Knockoff imho. Too bad, because the speedtimer is an icon in Its own right
Dave, go back and watch this show again...it was one of your best ever. You did so many great things on this review, the scripting, the flow, the images, the explanations, etc. Be proud.
Thanks man I appreciate it! Been really busy lately, and haven't been sleeping as much thanks to my adorable new baby girl, so I've been feeling like it's just a rush to get a video thrown together, and filming when I'm half asleep. Glad to hear the end product hasn't suffered too much!
@@JusttheWatch Thank you and congratulations on the baby!
Vostok shirt on! Hell yeah! :)
Since when does Rolex own the panda design? Wasn’t Breitling the first?
Great review! New to the watch community but have been searching for a good quality watch for a while. Had my heart set on a Tudor panda but wasn’t willing to spend over retail. We were at a local Jeweller this week to pick up my (soon to be) wife and I’s wedding bands when I seen this watch in the case and it spoke to me. Beautiful panda dial at a fraction of the cost of the Tudor. Love the look and how it wears in the wrist as well. And most importantly feel like I’ve made a good purchase!
Its really a great watch for a one who wish to owned a pricey daytona. I just bought mine when I visited Seiko Boracay branch when I saw they're offering at 20% discount. For a $575 dollar watch like this quality its a really great deal for me. I saw this watch first 1 year ago in this channel and it really impress me and now I got one. Tnks Dave for the detailed review it helps us decide easily to buy a good watch.
So it’s a solar pagani?
I wonder if this movement will age well or if the rechargeable battery will fail by age
It's one of those watches that's easy to become ones go-to watch.
You know, if there's no special occassion but doing groceries, you just grab something that you know ticks and you know is set and accurate.
Solar man. The way this Solarchrono and Cartier's Tank Solar have sort of 'hidden' the solar panels is pretty genius.
They both also benefit from Quartz without having the cringe of a giant central seconds hand ticking away indiscretely.
The 24hr indicator is quite useless for a Quartz watch without alarm.
Great review, thank you once again ! That said….. why would I go and buy this watch from Seiko ? I have nothing against Seiko, I love the brand I own 6 Seiko’s, and this watch look beautiful…. but at about 1000$ retail Canadian that’s way too much for a simple quartz watch, yes it has Sapphire crystal, milled clasp, solid end links, and is Solar….. but I can buy a Pagani Design Daytona Homage PD-1644 with sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, milled clasp, solid end links, and with a Seiko VK63 Meca-Quartz movement for around 80$ Canadian, which I did, and am very happy about it. You could buy 10 Pagani PD-1644 for the price of one Seiko.
Something else I noticed, why don’t more people on youtube bash Seiko or Tissot for that matter, for producing a watch “ hommage/copy “ of a Rolex Daytona ? Why ? Because it has the Seiko or Tissot name/brand on the watch ? Because of their history in the world of watch making ? I still find it a little hypocritical when that happens, but that’s my opinion…..
Thank you and keep the videos coming.
Get the Orient Neo 70 and spend $50 to replace the mineral glass to sapphire is even better and cheaper.
great review, I love mine...only had it a week or so. It will remain my new favorite for quite awhile
Available for $500. how much more special can it get at that price
Absolutely stunning watch I love it. I’m a big fan of collecting watches and watches in general. I’ve got a nice collection of watches and I’m going to add a Seiko to my collection.
This is my first time watching this page. I think this is some of the best commentary about a wristwatch I’ve ever seen.
Thanks man!
If you don't like it don't buy it! It's not a big decision but if you've brought it without seeing it in the then it's not anyone elses fault 🙄
Thanks for pointing out the limitations of the sub dials. You're the only reviewer I've seen to date who actually mentions this. It's certainly a minus, plus those solar panels are a bit of a turn off. I don't know. I'll have to think about it. It's a great looking watch though, that's for sure.
Can you link the strap at 3:16 ? It looks so good, what colour is it?
Is it expensive watch? Is it worth to wait a bit that price drop?
The solar is big interest to me. I find that interesting. Never liked quartz for the need of a battery. While these should be relentlessly charged and thus more accurate. If its not more accurate than that rolex. Then seiko is lowering quality to allow it.
And that 24 hour dial annoys the heck out of me!
It's a very nice watch, I'm not too worried about the subdials, and it is very attractive. I'd buy it, but not for $675.
Your video production quality has really increased as of late. It's very noticeable and very appreciated. Thanks for the awesome vids!
Looked really nice on the rally strap! I suppose all of the circles and holes made a really nice comprehensive look. Second was the black leather strap that gave it a heritage look. Loved the video
Little expensive, but a really nice looking panda. Great review as always. Thanks Dave!
This watch is $1200 in New Zealand
Lovely looking watch but from where I was sitting the dial especially the blue subdials seemed littered with lint anyone else notice this?
Picked up my ssc813 🐼 and must say im in love 😍
Wished this watch was an automatic
Your camera work has really improved.
another overrated quartz watch :/
Seiko will sell a ton of these beautiful watches but it breaks no new ground. Seiko has been hitting home runs in their recent lines. It makes good business sense but I hope they can pass some of that profit to add some value in their future watches.
What modern Seiko besides a Spring drive, breaks new ground? Hell, unless you physically handle the watch, you can't tell the difference between a $4000 Seiko and a $400 one....
I really, really like the design, it almost resembles perfectly what I'm looking for in a chronograph, but at this price point there are other watches that have higher priority on my buying list
Can I ask what other watches have ur priority?
What other watches have your priority?
what others watch?
Like what?
in this price range, i'd much prefer a eco-drive citizen. their quality and finishing is next level compared to this seiko.
they tend to be oversized though IMO
I was thinking the same thing ..
I usually can't find a Citizen design that does much for me.
If you think this is bad, look up the automatic version. 3 grand. Pfff.
@@Strideo1 Yea they usually turn me off, they need to work on their designs
Great review and great editing with story and photos. Love the addition of multiple straps... very unique and I've never seen it before. Bravo.
Amazing looking watch!
Yes, love the design but for £600 the dial in particular doesn't look any different from similar entry level Seiko sports watches I can buy for less than a quarter of the price. Granted it has sapphire glass and a decent bracelet and it would have been my next daily driver, but it's just not worth another £450. I have an SSB301P1 which I bought for £150. It's not a Prospex obviously, but I don't think the dial and case is any worse on that than it is on this one.
Great video, Dave. Totally agree that at $575 (plus tax) that is should be a little more special. I would add that I would like to have seen more lume in the indices. I'm still not sure if the other non-lumed indices are where the solar panels are. It would make it more easy to pull the trigger on what will likely be a $600+ purchase. That being mentioned, it is a very handsome watch.
Very nice review I'm not quite sure about the complaints... maybe lack of finishing is ok but having solar panels in the subdials? that's pretty genius if u ask me, they look nice and the watch looks very nice... price surely bit too high...
Yet another Seiko bracelet w/ only two micro adjusts. It’s bad enough they haven’t switched to a glide lock but only two means fine tuning fit is next to impossible. I can almost guarantee it’s going to be to lose or to tight on my wrist. This is what always happens w/ their bracelets.
How does this watch compare to the Dan Henry 1962? Basically same dimensions but with a Seiko Mecaquartz movement and 50m of water resistance. Also comes at $270 which is way cheaper.
Think it’s a fine watch but expensive for what you get. Solar quartz is great tech buts it’s available through many brands and some offer great quality at affordable prices, Citizen Eco-Drive e.g. If I’m spending that much on a Seiko if personally go with one of their autos.
Great Review as always! 🥰
Great review! I’ve always liked your channel but you really stepped your game up👌🏼
Nice review and totally agree with you on the 24 hr subdial. I would much prefer a traditional hour counter. Or as you point out make the 24 hr dial independent of the main dial to track a second time zone. As it is, 90% of people have no real use for a 24 hr dial that essentially only acts and an AM/PM indicator.
The 24 hour subdial is for motorsports endurance racing, 24 hours of Daytona, Lemans, Spa. It's in the name itself Speedtimer.
Hahaha I assumed this was a mecaquartz too & just deleted a comment where i complained it was the wrong VK movement bc 'the other' has a 12hr counter.
I realised a while ago that watch companies, retailers & reviewers (most!) have no interest in chronographs as actual stopwatches hence why literally no one ever discusses the pros & cons of the ubiquitous 30min subdials on mechanical chronos and why it's almost impossible to buy one with a centrally mounted 60min counter - and even harder to add a 12hr counter. So my best guess is Seiko know people (inc watch nerds/fans) who buy chronos do so bc they like the watches 'with the little clocks on the dials' and a 24hr dial is at least useful for setting the date.
After hearing you explain why the subdials look the way they do i love them - their functionality makes their appearance quite striking and i like that. Love that power indicator too.
Hate the no12hr dial though... not sure I could get past that.
Hi Dave, would you please do a review of the ORIENT Standard Neo 70\'s PANDA Quartz WV0011UZ Men\'s Watch B00EU9TBQG?
Great review on another great watch - I love the 39mm size. I really like the design, I have a 7 1/4 - 7 1/2 inch wrist so I went through the big (well over 40mm) chronograph phase and now I'm more back to the 39mm size which is so comfortable it really is that sweet spot. Going to go to my AD and try one of these on, its really nice to have a Daytona(ish) option that is not a homage and not thousands of dollars. Thanks for another great review, keep up the great work.
I like this watch, but in the macro shots in this video it seems like there is a lot of dirt in the sub dials and the cut outs in the dial for the sub dials seem very rough. Was planning on getting this, but it seems to many corners were cut making it for me. Would rather have paid a higher price to have had this done with proper care.
The hand set is the deal-breaker to me, its stylistically all wrong for such a Bill Blass era designed oyster case look, yuch. Seiko makes some really nice chronographs with a per-Daytona look better than this.
Looks nice, but retail is too much. No doubt Seiko can do what they want, but the market is so vast there is so much more for my money.
Just bought this watch (panda dial) from Seiko’s online store. I will have to wear mine for a while before I can form an intelligent opinion but my initial feeling is that this is gonna be a great watch. Your review was excellent and I just subscribed to your channel.
Not a huge fan of chronographs but I really like This one. I agree, the 24h dial is pretty much useless and I would rather have a 12 hr counter.
Nice, in-depth review. I'll stick with my 1970s-era Seiko automatic chronographs, though.
hahhaa .. you are an AMERICAN... "I REALLY REALLY LIKE YOU.. BUT I am NOT SURE I LOVE YOU"
Thats the theme of FRIENDS .... Outside America, I dont really understand how it all works....
Hi Dave, good comments regarding the sub-dials. My main gripe with the watch is why isn't the date window equally spaced between the 4 and 5 o'clock indices? A small detail, but one that bugs me.
You should, nor will you ever pay $675 for this. I got mine for just over $500. Saying it’s $675 is a fallacy
Received this watch last week. Love it so far.
Been waiting for this review -- Really does look like a good, almost great watch, but the real shame is that price. Personally I think I'll backburner this one given I've added enough new watches this year, and cross fingers it might go on sale in the next 1-2 years. If I do pick it up at some point, I might have to get a black sailcloth too, given it looked really good on that one.
Hello everyone. Does anyone know if there are Chinese knockoffs of this watch being sold on Ebay? I f so are there ways to tell ? As my concern with this watch I just purchased are mostly with the date presentation when the date is a single digit it is small but okay but when it is 2 digits it becomes difficult to see both numbers. The numbers between 10 and 19 are the worse and 20 through 29 can be seen but not easily. PLEASE ADVISE WHILE I CAN STILL RETURN IT. THANKS. SINCERELY Jim Steinfurth.
Damn I wish there'd be something like "preorder price" here in France where I live... The most I can get from an AD is 15% discount. If I could get this watch for $500 it would be perfect.
It’s definitely a great looking watch for the money, however the quality of Seiko watches totally justifies the price. I’ve got Seiko watches from the sixties and 80s and still work fantastically . It’s a watch that will last forever with a little TLC.
I truly like your Chanel.
You See the Original Seiko From 1967 the best Chrono of Design and Qualitäty bether than Rolex Daytona?
I dont Unterstand Why Seiko dont Love his Design this wAtch Looks Not Good !!!!
Seiko makes a fantastic product, i was recently given my father’s Seiko Sportura Kinetic Chronograph from about 15-ish years ago. Runs beautifully and keeps perfect time. Robust, affordable (sometimes,) practical watches.
I just ordered the Seiko ssc 813 . I presently have the Sportura Kinetic which is a superior chronograph. 😊
What a good review!
I like, that you put the different straps on. I didn't think about changing it but the tan rally strap was just perfect for my taste.. IT looks so good!
Picked one up today, what a nice watch feels very premium in hand.
The purpose of a 24 hr hand in a chronograph is to assist with setting the time. You no longer need to set the date one day early and sweep through midnight to know if you’re setting AM or PM.
But with a solar quartz good for 6 months… maybe a little useless on this one.
I understand it says Seiko on the dial and it's solar powered, but besides that... what am I really getting here that I can't get in a Pagani PD-1644 for about 1/8th the cost???
But is this worth 675$, when there is Pagani design PD-1644, with a ceramic bezel, VK63 movt, saphire crystal, 100WR for 70$?
Because I am Scottish I’m tight… Or at least that’s what I blame it on… I think this watch is overpriced… I have a large collection of Seiko’s but I just can’t see spending this much on a VK(quartz) Movement. I also don’t like the register layout that as a result of this movement. It’s a great looking watch and it’s just over $400 it would be a great buy
Don’t take me wrong but it’s a rip off IMO. Horrible finish and looks just cheap. $700 rep Daytona has 100x better finishing and an automatic movement (yeah not the best but still). I feel like Seiko can’t offer good value anymore. Micro brands seem more appealing to me.
I just don’t need a chronograph, and I don’t like the cluttered dial and bezel. Rather a beautiful watch here, despite all that. It’s sort of depressing that Casio, Citizen, and Seiko have far more interesting and beautiful watches that are JDM-only. than they have for sale elsewhere. Citizen especially makes clownish ugly dials for many of their US-market models: I guess they have a really low opinion of us gaijin? It’s tempting to think so, even if it’s unintentional.
I don't rly care what the subdials do. Purely love the aesthetics :)
Hi Dave, this is Chris, from Hong Kong. I wonder if you may reply me where or which Japan website I may buy this Seiko speedtimer. Amazon does not have it anymore. I wish I might get it as Father’s Day gift for my dad. Could you help ?
Although I was not a submariner - I was in the Navy for 20 years. The only time I can see this as helpful is you served on a submarine or in space, where you couldn’t tell from the sun whether it was 0900 or 2100. 🤷🏻♂️
Hey Dave how are you doing? Im living in japan also, im a fan about watches, recently i got the citizen ca0450-57A after watching one of your videos!!, greetings from nishinomiya