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You mention 1.40 speed offhand for faster poison applications, but you got a 1.80 one. Is it personal preference? Or should you use 1.40 at all costs (if i can phrase it like that). Personally, i found the 1.40 option to do low dmg compared with 2x 1.80
i just up my rogue lvl 80 i'am 3.4k gs in bg's i kill like 20 per one that i learned in your guid every thing i do super damage low gear can not wait to get ilvl max i will reign in bgs! with my player : Yorahn
@@edotensei6466 yeah they got insane burst, but its easy counterable, no skill at all. I mean this guy is probably main combat rogue since he has build without killing spree, that means he really understand the class. Class by itself is not hard and thats fact, maybe you need just to learn some tactics how to beat some classes.. If that were good class ppl would play it more...it lacks a lot of good things. And ppl who play it mostly do it because of fun 1 shoting people
Coming after 2h, i read some threads about Combat rogue and i was wrong, people play this class more than Killing Spree. Now it looks more fun, ill try to make a video
Palladins are not that hard, I have assasination and the only thing you need to do is burst palladine into a bubble, then use vanish and wait until you can kill it. Of course, you need to stun a lot when bursting and use evasion. One Vanish can be used during the initial burst if required. It's best to leave the disarm after the bubble. That's it, palladine won't be a big problem.
Hey mate, attack power is just better stat for Assasination. It scales very well with Envenom and agility doesnt give u same amount of AP as pure AP gams do. The thing is u have 2x Cold Blood that give u 100% guaranteed crit on Envenoms. With that ur main goal is to have as much as Attack power as u can so u dont care about crit chance and armor(especially). Unlike sub rogues who depend on their critical strike to hit all Ambushes,Backstabs anD Evicerates as crit
Human is best race in game because of racial which allows you to use 2 dps trinkets instead of Medalion. Everyone knows that potential 180arp and 1400 attack power is better than 150 resilience from Medalion. Nightelf racial is still good against all caster classes
I've made a test on Shaman because of his biggest nature resistance totem in whole game. I had 0 Spell Pen and i did 50 envenoms on him. None of them was resisted and reduced dmg. So, as far as i know Envenom bypass the resist system, still Deadly poison dmg is reduced by resistance and i think its not worth to go for spell pen. You can go for example just on Cloak +35SP to lower that dmg reduction from Nature resistance but everything more than that would be waste i guess.
Soft cap is around 5% aka 164 hit. Still you have chance to miss some classes like Paladins, Nightelfs etc.. because of their talents and passive abilities. Yes those items i show for every slot are BiS
Yes ofcourse you can. Tbh i was surprised when i saw 1.4 dagger in this guide. 1.8 oh is pretty iconic for mutilate spec and it also buffs dmg from shiv and autoattacks.
The idea having a 1.3 or 1.4 speed dagger in OH is to get more doses of poison applied which is more dmg output than having a 1.8 speed in the OH and going for bigger mutilates. I'd go for something in between like a 1.6 so it's right in the middle, still high dmg, but fast to apply poisons also
Alot of weird tactics you are using man, you blast your cd´s and make it way to complicated. trust me when i say that lol. For example vs sp: just trinket fear, safe cloak+sprint for after horror ends. if he dispers early just vanish it and reset. and never blast ur cloak for nothing. any sp with brain will never fall for your little "cloak to prevent horror" move xp. they will just wait cloak and horror u after & you are done pretty much. also you are using the wrong dmg rotation. usually the dmg rotation is: cs->mut->ks->mut->(mut)->cb->env. then you vanish garrote and spam 4-5 cp env´s. for hard pressure keep the env spam up, pool energy to ~80%, then prep vanish and start with the rotation again with ur 2nd cb ;)
@@lyricahm3370 I'm already at 1600 rating 2vs2. Isn't that much i know, but i'm far to be BiS either my partner Disc Priest so has been a good start i guees. I take from this guide some usefull advises, others not that much cuz they are too duel-oriented. Any advise of a more experienced player is more than welcome :). And here is another question: It's a good choice to wield 2 slow daggers (1.80)?
@@enriquecoellotorres9537 for assassination yes use 2 slow daggers 1.8 speed because the slower your weapon speed the more damage it does thus making mutilate hit much harder
In arena probably very bad, since every other rogue will most likely open fiest on you,which is very bad. On bgs you can position yourself like you want so, chances are low to meet a rogue in random middle of map
you will get obliterated with 900 resi in 2v2 arena and bg's also don't you think DBW + STS is better for more arp for Mutilate since you already have 40-50% crit I think that's enough and I believe getting more arp will be more beneficial because the main reason you want to play assassination is to destroy platers because casters will most likely destroy you since you don't have shadowstep so why not go all in against platers ? I'd like to hear your opinion and great video btw
assassination spec barely does any physical damage, your main damage source especially when fighting plate teams are your poisons, envenom, rupture and garrote so theres no reason to prioritize arp as assassination
@@lyricahm3370 because why not? with more arp you will do even more damage with mutilate against platers and this spec is all about killing platers so why not go all in on it
@@dariomladenovski7047 because you arnt going to get enough Arp to make use of it, and stacking AP/crit/haste gives you more damage overall than using a low priority stat to benefit killing plate wearers, you have to remember that mutilate spec will always do amazing damage to plate wearers and you also need to be able to do great damage too cloth too
Is this class viable in pvp? I want to get into pvping and I always felt drawn to assassination rogue. My friend wants to play frost mage, do you think it pairs well with ass.rogue? Or is sub waaaaayyyy better? Also, loving your vids, guides and gameplay videos as always 👍👍👍 appreciate the effort u put into it!
It is possible to play assassination rogue, but as i mentioned in the video it is very limited in some aspects. Sub rogue is just better option with faster burst, gouge,blimd,shadoestep..(assass rogue wont be able to use blind and gouge when needed because of DoT poison)...
@@NibbaiWotlk yo thank you man. I appreciate it very much that u always read all the comments 🤯 U are the king of Warmane pvp! It all really helps alot I make sure to always like your videos!
@@NibbaiWotlk only thing that sub outshines assass from what I see is a Lil more cc and mobility from shadowstep. I think assass with fleeted foot and tuskars is like flat almost 20% speed Inc. But in the right hands I do agree sub is the way to go
Idk why you say shadow step is better than mutilate. The only decent rogue who played shadowstep was reckful. I played and got r1 on retail WOTLK with RLS and mutilate smashes face
Mate wotlk has change a ton from retail wotlk. Tactics has changed, players a re a lot better, so try getting rank 1 on muti rogue on Warmane and tell me how it goes. Still in 3s is different story from 2s because you may have much more free room to set up a kill as muti in 3s
Well, I must say something about paladins - since I main ret/preg and can say Paldins op rogues… buuuuut since I also play Sub/combat and assasin rogues - best way to win paladin is - bleeds. Even my pred was nuked by assasin rogue and I was like “wtf did just happen”, then I had a talk with one of mu friends - and we agreed that bleeds is just a way to approach. And idk what of think of it😅
For max damage burst don't use cold blood on envenom. Do this instead: Trick your partner. Vanish cheap shot/Full kidney kill target. Cold blood muti. 4-5cp envenom Prep Cold blood muti 4cp envenom Regular mutilate 3-5cp envenom That's 2 mutilate crits. One regular mutilate. 3 regular envenoms. This can be done in one kidney. You easily have enough energy for this if you come out of stealth (30% more energy regen) and have full PvP set bonus + vigor + vigor glyph
@@tunesfortoons6507 Ye but we dont know if someone will kidney or not, you will waste 1 CB on opener for nothing. You need a little bit specific build for that opener. You need more ARP since you will invest 2 CBs in Mutilate which are physical dmg. With normal build you will hit Warr for 2.5k dmg crit with muti xd. But honestly i would try with some higher arp it seems like that opener would be promising. Also about blind, so you will need to open without Deadly poison equipped since you wont be able to Blind the enemy.. and every better player wont really trinket kidney in that case
@@NibbaiWotlk What are you talking about dude? Blinding on deadly poisons? What? No you don't blind your kill target... The moment you Sap + Blind a healer he will trinket. If he doesn't trinket you can kill his DPS because healer will be in a 30 second CC chain because the blind will be followed up by a fear/cyclone depending on who your arena partner is. So he will 100% trinket. He has to. Then the only thing you have to do after that trinket is kill the healer in a full kidney shot. If the enemy healer is a Holy paladin, he will bubble your kidney, you just wait 20 seconds for DR's and kill him on the second kidney. Vs good teams the enemy DPS will peel for his healer when you get that healer in a kidney without his trinket. You can do two things against that: 1) you need to cross-CC the dps so he won't peel for his healer. 2) Or, you hold your cd's on the first kidney to make them use their disarm/other defensives. And no you don't take armor pen. You should play Resilience + Attack power. Definitely since you'll most likely be playing as double dps with a shadow priest and your win condition is killing in a kidney shot window so you want some more survival.
And if you're only interested in duels you should tryhard open in a duel with wound poison + instant. Then you can cheap into kidney into blind. If they trinket, you can vanish and reset, switch to deadly poison in stealth. Next DR's is a free kill with cheap shot into kidney shot into vanish garrote with double cold blood in that kidney. If they don't trinket, you get a free sap reset. They will be at 50% hp at this point and will have to trinked the next kidney for sure or they're dead. But at this point they're so far behind they cant win anymore
Warmane has like no good pvp rogues, all of them are stuck in TBC mindset, they unironically think sub is BIS for pvp, it's only bis if your buying BIS weps on warmane lol, won't be the case in WOTLK by blizzard. lot of delusional pvpers on warmane that are paypigs and have BIS gear, soo many pvp builds/classes are not nearly that good when they have to progress gear normally on a retail wotlk server. Mutilate has always been glad viable in wotlk, soo many dumb TBC rogues like MIR and the other EU tbc andys think they need shadowstep lol it's so sad how bad rogues have gotten. going to be very fun when WOTLk comes out.
facts my bro i played 2850 Rating RMP in Wotlk with Envenom in 3v3 with 900 resi as rogue. Only switched to sublety with cata, where it was clearly better than mutilate
in 2v2 i played disci/rogue i think its superior to play mutilate cause u get the healing talent in assa tree, also you drain healers much more than sub, in 2v2 especially against healer/dps mutilate felt always better than dance. Mage / Rogue you can play dance. Stil prefered Mutilate all the way
i think mutilate has the edge over sub in early wotlk. If you need hard cc and quick burst Shadowdance is better, but if your dance is on cd your dmg output will be lowered, while mutilate you have sustained dmg pressure on the target also you can switch targets easier in midfights, where your shadowdance would be on cd (1 min) for example as muti you can switch target with one vanish and reopen you dont need dance. If you play dance you probably dance early to create pressure, if you want to swap target you gotta wait 1 min with muti you can fast swap targets easier, For exemplae if you play with priest and enemy healer is trinketing your kidney priest can fear him, you wait for poison dot > Sap > Blind.
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Awesome video man. If LK classic is released i'll come back to my dear Rogue once again. Then your work will be even more meaningful to me. Thanks !
You mention 1.40 speed offhand for faster poison applications, but you got a 1.80 one. Is it personal preference? Or should you use 1.40 at all costs (if i can phrase it like that). Personally, i found the 1.40 option to do low dmg compared with 2x 1.80
Amazing! To finish we need Combat as well.
Thanks! We will consider that possibility!
also updated ones :P
What a good guide, thanks!
I would like to see onde guide for shaman restoration if u could it’d help a lot
Thanks, im not sure when Resto shaman comes on schedule! :D
any arena talents? its so hard to find anything about muti rogues
nice vid, 22:20 - im the one who whispers u :D
Yeah i know this name 😁
Yeah i asked like 5 times for Assassination .. thanks mate
Finally 😃
Huge thanks! The best detailed guides existing are yours
Is there not a glyph which removes bleed effects if you use bilnd?
in the early seasons i played with eviscerate and two 1.8 for the raw dmg, was also lovely
just lvld a rogue on icecrown and it's rough as fresh 80, getting one shot by geared ppl.
i'm slowly gearing up though. hoping it gets better later.
Best guide and awesome Au5's tracks!
Bro what is your addon settings can you see that another video please
imean at 21:51 u did fuck up, but got lucky on a kidney dodge, no? or am i missing something?
Yeah you are right, i should have waited for his Kidney too, i was ok with hp
what is your addons in this video ?
Thanks, watched the whole clip. Amazing. 👍🖤
Excellent video keep up !!!
Quality video, as always. Thanks
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thanks man i really apreciate it
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By far the best Guide for rogues! Thank you! ❤
i play rogue and its not a good guide at all and i played since 12 yo LOL
ja, ok, vidim: sub. Super košuljica
What do you use to have debuffs on target show like that?
i just up my rogue lvl 80 i'am 3.4k gs in bg's i kill like 20 per one that i learned in your guid every thing i do super damage low gear can not wait to get ilvl max i will reign in bgs! with my player : Yorahn
Great video
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it must be said, I love your videos :D
You never said it before 😁
Best youtuber bro
Combat rouge next pls ❤️
Maybe, but he is not viable for pvp at all. I mean no mechanics just killing spree 🙄
Oh yea combat *.*
@@NibbaiWotlk check edgebola in armory and you will think otherwise
@@edotensei6466 yeah they got insane burst, but its easy counterable, no skill at all. I mean this guy is probably main combat rogue since he has build without killing spree, that means he really understand the class. Class by itself is not hard and thats fact, maybe you need just to learn some tactics how to beat some classes.. If that were good class ppl would play it more...it lacks a lot of good things. And ppl who play it mostly do it because of fun 1 shoting people
Coming after 2h, i read some threads about Combat rogue and i was wrong, people play this class more than Killing Spree. Now it looks more fun, ill try to make a video
Great video, great guide! So much details, but can you tell us what addons you use? I definitely gonna smash sub button!
Thanks! Bro, please check description next time. Also i have a video about addons
Great video, thanks
Palladins are not that hard, I have assasination and the only thing you need to do is burst palladine into a bubble, then use vanish and wait until you can kill it. Of course, you need to stun a lot when bursting and use evasion. One Vanish can be used during the initial burst if required. It's best to leave the disarm after the bubble. That's it, palladine won't be a big problem.
Yep all you have to do against a pally 😂😂 love messing with those bastards
what adding you use for swing their buffs on nameplate
Привет! влияет ли скорость на тики урона от гарроты или рваной раны?
Hi! does speed affect the damage ticks from a garrote or a lacerated wound?
good guide,When we cast slice and dice in the rotation when we use it?
why do you need armor penetration if you damage target with poisons?
Great vid but i have one question, why everyone uses attack power in gems? agility gives 3 stats in one (AP, Armor and Crit) isn't that better?
Hey mate, attack power is just better stat for Assasination. It scales very well with Envenom and agility doesnt give u same amount of AP as pure AP gams do. The thing is u have 2x Cold Blood that give u 100% guaranteed crit on Envenoms. With that ur main goal is to have as much as Attack power as u can so u dont care about crit chance and armor(especially). Unlike sub rogues who depend on their critical strike to hit all Ambushes,Backstabs anD Evicerates as crit
@@NibbaiWotlk Thank you sir!
That we needed good🐅🐅
Nibbai, what addons do you use? I'm interested in the health bar and icons in particular.
Like and thank you very much for the quality content!
Im now using different addon for health bars, even better in my opinion. Tidy plates- Threat plates
What is the name of the addon that displays the seconds of timed spells on the above your enemy's name bar?
Odličan video brate. Imam jedno pitanje da li je sub ili assassin rogue bolji za pvp i koji se lakše leveluje?
2021 год а ты очень круто всё делаешь видно что с душой
Бля чел, не знаешь как он убрал текстурки грудака и понож
@@rin8937 знаю
Can i know what are you two talking about here? 😂
@@NibbaiWotlk how to make such a rud and legs?
@@NibbaiWotlk I wrote this with the help of a translator😁
Love this video bro make me wanna play wow 😂
Hi, do you think the night elf racials are good for rogues in wotlk? I prefer it over humans tbh
Human is best race in game because of racial which allows you to use 2 dps trinkets instead of Medalion. Everyone knows that potential 180arp and 1400 attack power is better than 150 resilience from Medalion. Nightelf racial is still good against all caster classes
@@NibbaiWotlk thanks for the reply. I'm actually leveling a human for tbc, so I guess I'll finish leveling it and possibly main it in tbc and wotlk
I thought Mutirogue needs spellpen just like unholy dk cuz of huge nature dmg. Doesnt it?
I've made a test on Shaman because of his biggest nature resistance totem in whole game. I had 0 Spell Pen and i did 50 envenoms on him. None of them was resisted and reduced dmg. So, as far as i know Envenom bypass the resist system, still Deadly poison dmg is reduced by resistance and i think its not worth to go for spell pen. You can go for example just on Cloak +35SP to lower that dmg reduction from Nature resistance but everything more than that would be waste i guess.
On other side UH DKs depend on disease dmg a lot, so they need to have spell pen capped. Also because of Strangulate you must have it
@@NibbaiWotlk ok, ty.
Good guid, thank you.
Great videos, keep up the good work!
How much hit rate do You need? Also is the gear you are showcasing BiS? Thanks in advance for the guide
Soft cap is around 5% aka 164 hit. Still you have chance to miss some classes like Paladins, Nightelfs etc.. because of their talents and passive abilities. Yes those items i show for every slot are BiS
But bro you overshadowed the fact that we get TWO juicy envenom crits from Cold Blood which allows for huge burst window
good v thx men :)
Weapon speed question: Can I play with 1.80 dagger in off hand for harder Mutilate DMG? The poisons are stacking pretty quick in my experience.
Yes ofcourse you can. Tbh i was surprised when i saw 1.4 dagger in this guide. 1.8 oh is pretty iconic for mutilate spec and it also buffs dmg from shiv and autoattacks.
The idea having a 1.3 or 1.4 speed dagger in OH is to get more doses of poison applied which is more dmg output than having a 1.8 speed in the OH and going for bigger mutilates. I'd go for something in between like a 1.6 so it's right in the middle, still high dmg, but fast to apply poisons also
Alot of weird tactics you are using man, you blast your cd´s and make it way to complicated.
trust me when i say that lol.
For example
vs sp: just trinket fear, safe cloak+sprint for after horror ends.
if he dispers early just vanish it and reset.
and never blast ur cloak for nothing.
any sp with brain will never fall for your little "cloak to prevent horror" move xp.
they will just wait cloak and horror u after & you are done pretty much.
also you are using the wrong dmg rotation.
usually the dmg rotation is: cs->mut->ks->mut->(mut)->cb->env. then you vanish garrote and spam 4-5 cp env´s.
for hard pressure keep the env spam up, pool energy to ~80%, then prep vanish and start with the rotation again with ur 2nd cb ;)
Is multilate better for arena / pvp in general compared to sub spec ? And how are Rogues over All in Wotlk for pvp ?
No, sub spec is most viable spec for pvp overall. Assasination rogue can be better just in some comps and against some certain comps
@@NibbaiWotlk which comps is assass better in? I hear it's great with sp rsham. Great channel ty.
Is there any chance for combat? Is he even viable for PVP??
Its not viable, i mean if you dont kill from killing spree thats it
Unless your bis pve combat don't do much and even then sub/ass does better
Extremely good contnetnt
Prot paly guide next
Please
Haha 😂
Great video, would you remake your guide to sub rogue someday? My rotation sucks so much haha
For Wpvp I'd run
Mutilate
Cloak/sprint/prep
Vigor
Glyphs I always keep some in my bags so I can swap when needed ^^
Amazing video but please can you do one for resto shaman please!!
is the regular or bleed specc better for allround like bgs?
Regular is better in all situations imo 😁 fck bleeds just raw dmg
Who is favoured in rogue vs shadowpriest matchup?
Sub because of Shadowstep x2 but Assasin isnt bad either because of sustained burst
I came late for this video but recently start to play assa. Just a question: any possible use of SnD? Great content btw ;)
if you want to get decent at assassination rogue dont listen to this guide unless you are extremely fresh to WoW in general
@@lyricahm3370 I'm already at 1600 rating 2vs2. Isn't that much i know, but i'm far to be BiS either my partner Disc Priest so has been a good start i guees. I take from this guide some usefull advises, others not that much cuz they are too duel-oriented. Any advise of a more experienced player is more than welcome :). And here is another question: It's a good choice to wield 2 slow daggers (1.80)?
@@enriquecoellotorres9537 for assassination yes use 2 slow daggers 1.8 speed because the slower your weapon speed the more damage it does thus making mutilate hit much harder
Can u do a video about the easiest classes to climb in soloq with?🥺
beast mastery hunter next? pausechamp
how rogue works in arena or bg without 3/3 on master of deception?
In arena probably very bad, since every other rogue will most likely open fiest on you,which is very bad. On bgs you can position yourself like you want so, chances are low to meet a rogue in random middle of map
Napravi za rsham brt nema druge ponosan sam ahhaha felix ftw
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you will get obliterated with 900 resi in 2v2 arena and bg's also don't you think DBW + STS is better for more arp for Mutilate since you already have 40-50% crit I think that's enough and I believe getting more arp will be more beneficial because the main reason you want to play assassination is to destroy platers because casters will most likely destroy you since you don't have shadowstep so why not go all in against platers ? I'd like to hear your opinion and great video btw
assassination spec barely does any physical damage, your main damage source especially when fighting plate teams are your poisons, envenom, rupture and garrote so theres no reason to prioritize arp as assassination
@@lyricahm3370 because why not? with more arp you will do even more damage with mutilate against platers and this spec is all about killing platers so why not go all in on it
@@dariomladenovski7047 because you arnt going to get enough Arp to make use of it, and stacking AP/crit/haste gives you more damage overall than using a low priority stat to benefit killing plate wearers, you have to remember that mutilate spec will always do amazing damage to plate wearers and you also need to be able to do great damage too cloth too
Which spec for BG/Open World?
Edit: Nvm you answered this. For BG use the standard build.
For everything standsrd build is the best 😆
waht addon is that that show your dots on target?
Read the description first bro! Platebuffs
Training in Blackrock is good ?
its the only competitive wotlk arena scene currently
Можно сделать билд через Потрошение, тогда можно делать контроль через Блайд и Гаудж
Combat rogue next Yep please
Can u say all your addons pls?
i love it. Guide for Beginner... what is sts wfs dv and others? Its funny.
but video is great, thank you
Its tips for Beginners not gear for beginners haha, thanks!
where can WE do 1v1 like u did?
Blackrock realm on Warmane
@@NibbaiWotlk ty bro keep going
Is this class viable in pvp? I want to get into pvping and I always felt drawn to assassination rogue. My friend wants to play frost mage, do you think it pairs well with ass.rogue? Or is sub waaaaayyyy better?
Also, loving your vids, guides and gameplay videos as always 👍👍👍 appreciate the effort u put into it!
It is possible to play assassination rogue, but as i mentioned in the video it is very limited in some aspects. Sub rogue is just better option with faster burst, gouge,blimd,shadoestep..(assass rogue wont be able to use blind and gouge when needed because of DoT poison)...
@@NibbaiWotlk yo thank you man. I appreciate it very much that u always read all the comments 🤯 U are the king of Warmane pvp! It all really helps alot I make sure to always like your videos!
Choose assa if you’re pissed off at DK’s
@@NibbaiWotlk save blind and gouge for healer? Gg
@@NibbaiWotlk only thing that sub outshines assass from what I see is a Lil more cc and mobility from shadowstep. I think assass with fleeted foot and tuskars is like flat almost 20% speed Inc. But in the right hands I do agree sub is the way to go
Amazing
How about prot warrior
U play in black rock?
Yes
Oh nice so i can find u
love you
С топовыми ребятами дуэлился)))
10x again, I just about to ding my rouge to lvl 80 on warmane, but on the horde side }:) For and alliance scum your video are amazing!
Fury warrior plssss i wanna see how it look like
hello great video but u can share all macros?
Idk why you say shadow step is better than mutilate. The only decent rogue who played shadowstep was reckful. I played and got r1 on retail WOTLK with RLS and mutilate smashes face
Mate wotlk has change a ton from retail wotlk. Tactics has changed, players a re a lot better, so try getting rank 1 on muti rogue on Warmane and tell me how it goes. Still in 3s is different story from 2s because you may have much more free room to set up a kill as muti in 3s
What server is this? Seems like old at
Warmane - Blackrock pvp realm istant 80
Transmog names plz
Please make a prot warrior guide! Prot warr is underrated in pvp
Try to fight with protpal 😅
Well, I must say something about paladins - since I main ret/preg and can say Paldins op rogues… buuuuut since I also play Sub/combat and assasin rogues - best way to win paladin is - bleeds. Even my pred was nuked by assasin rogue and I was like “wtf did just happen”, then I had a talk with one of mu friends - and we agreed that bleeds is just a way to approach. And idk what of think of it😅
survival hunter next
make demonology warlock
gg
For max damage burst don't use cold blood on envenom. Do this instead:
Trick your partner.
Vanish cheap shot/Full kidney kill target.
Cold blood muti.
4-5cp envenom
Prep
Cold blood muti
4cp envenom
Regular mutilate
3-5cp envenom
That's 2 mutilate crits. One regular mutilate. 3 regular envenoms. This can be done in one kidney. You easily have enough energy for this if you come out of stealth (30% more energy regen) and have full PvP set bonus + vigor + vigor glyph
Bro i havent tested it, but like EVERYONE will trinket you kidney ever
@@NibbaiWotlk thats good :). No trinket means free blind, sap, cc chain. OR, kill on next kidney in 30 seconds
@@tunesfortoons6507 Ye but we dont know if someone will kidney or not, you will waste 1 CB on opener for nothing. You need a little bit specific build for that opener. You need more ARP since you will invest 2 CBs in Mutilate which are physical dmg. With normal build you will hit Warr for 2.5k dmg crit with muti xd. But honestly i would try with some higher arp it seems like that opener would be promising. Also about blind, so you will need to open without Deadly poison equipped since you wont be able to Blind the enemy.. and every better player wont really trinket kidney in that case
@@NibbaiWotlk What are you talking about dude?
Blinding on deadly poisons? What? No you don't blind your kill target...
The moment you Sap + Blind a healer he will trinket. If he doesn't trinket you can kill his DPS because healer will be in a 30 second CC chain because the blind will be followed up by a fear/cyclone depending on who your arena partner is.
So he will 100% trinket. He has to. Then the only thing you have to do after that trinket is kill the healer in a full kidney shot. If the enemy healer is a Holy paladin, he will bubble your kidney, you just wait 20 seconds for DR's and kill him on the second kidney.
Vs good teams the enemy DPS will peel for his healer when you get that healer in a kidney without his trinket. You can do two things against that:
1) you need to cross-CC the dps so he won't peel for his healer.
2) Or, you hold your cd's on the first kidney to make them use their disarm/other defensives.
And no you don't take armor pen. You should play Resilience + Attack power. Definitely since you'll most likely be playing as double dps with a shadow priest and your win condition is killing in a kidney shot window so you want some more survival.
And if you're only interested in duels you should tryhard open in a duel with wound poison + instant. Then you can cheap into kidney into blind.
If they trinket, you can vanish and reset, switch to deadly poison in stealth. Next DR's is a free kill with cheap shot into kidney shot into vanish garrote with double cold blood in that kidney.
If they don't trinket, you get a free sap reset. They will be at 50% hp at this point and will have to trinked the next kidney for sure or they're dead. But at this point they're so far behind they cant win anymore
why AP gems and not ArP?
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Nibbai dude pls fap before u edit the intro XD
Go combat rogue ;d
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warmane is somthing that looks like wow , act like wow but is NOT wow!!!
bugmane. only population is good other things are crap.
Rogue... pfff
Invita and shot.. invita and shot... crap class
Warmane has like no good pvp rogues, all of them are stuck in TBC mindset, they unironically think sub is BIS for pvp, it's only bis if your buying BIS weps on warmane lol, won't be the case in WOTLK by blizzard.
lot of delusional pvpers on warmane that are paypigs and have BIS gear, soo many pvp builds/classes are not nearly that good when they have to progress gear normally on a retail wotlk server.
Mutilate has always been glad viable in wotlk, soo many dumb TBC rogues like MIR and the other EU tbc andys think they need shadowstep lol it's so sad how bad rogues have gotten.
going to be very fun when WOTLk comes out.
Actually if you have any clue of game yes you need shadowstep. There is 0 chance to beat Mage/Warlock/Hunter in duel. In arena its a different story
facts my bro i played 2850 Rating RMP in Wotlk with Envenom in 3v3 with 900 resi as rogue. Only switched to sublety with cata, where it was clearly better than mutilate
in 2v2 i played disci/rogue i think its superior to play mutilate cause u get the healing talent in assa tree, also you drain healers much more than sub, in 2v2 especially against healer/dps mutilate felt always better than dance. Mage / Rogue you can play dance. Stil prefered Mutilate all the way
early wotlk when crit ratings will be low cold blood is also a very nice talent providing you 2 100% chance crits with preperation.
i think mutilate has the edge over sub in early wotlk. If you need hard cc and quick burst Shadowdance is better, but if your dance is on cd your dmg output will be lowered, while mutilate you have sustained dmg pressure on the target also you can switch targets easier in midfights, where your shadowdance would be on cd (1 min) for example as muti you can switch target with one vanish and reopen you dont need dance. If you play dance you probably dance early to create pressure, if you want to swap target you gotta wait 1 min with muti you can fast swap targets easier, For exemplae if you play with priest and enemy healer is trinketing your kidney priest can fear him, you wait for poison dot > Sap > Blind.