Young folks don't understand how nice it is to have cordless tools with high torque. Gennys and 100' 15 amp rated cords. Heavy, cumbersome, and loud. Stop and smell the roses when you get a chance.
Oh I’ve been there before. I used to have basic hand tools only, no workbench, no tool boxes, working out of buckets full of wrenches. I’m very grateful for the good stuff
Still have to use a generator on jobs with no power to charge batteries. 100ft cords everywhere regardless. Jobsites haven't changed much but technology makes certain aspects easier 👍
One of the few things i an grateful in life are my milwaukee tools and my car. That about sums up what I own but man my milwaukee tools make life so much more enjoyable. Unfortunately my m12 ratchet went mia with a 5amp ho battery so thats like 300$ i cant afford to replace. I still miss it everday. That tool made my boss alot of money!
@dailydrivensedans4875 - bummer about the m12 ratchet gone, buy keep an eye on Home Depot's October and November sales...they generally pair the ratchets with batteries and/or other tools at prices well below $300.
Diesel tech here, that 550ft-pound torque is completely true. Got the stubby and it took off a lug nut off of a semi which are torqued to 500 ft-pound of torque. Milwaukee rule!!
I got the new one a week ago and im literally not using any other tool! It works on the inside of the car, outside, underneath, its small and super strong! Highly recommended
It's an extremely useful tool all around! I've used it to build engine cranes, engine stands, rip engines and transmission out, rip subframes off and everything in between.
I hope the new one is as durable as the old one. My old one still does the trick even after all the abuse I’ve put it through. One time I accidentally dropped it into an oil drain pan on a diesel truck I was working on. Completely submerged it. Pulled it out, took the battery out and I let it sit 16 hours. Besides the permanent black stained red plastic it was completely unfazed
Yeah man my old Stubby did 90% or more of what I asked of it. On my current project car engine removal it required the M18 high torque for a few 30 year old rusted subframe bolts and one of the tie rods. The Stubby did the rest. I’m excited to see how gen2 Stubby handles some big old rusty bolts
the issue I had with the old one was that area that sticks out behind the handle and under the housing at the rear. Every now and then the area between my thumb and index finger is always feeling that bump. They fixed that nuisance on the new one.
Well I had to go check that…now I see that with just a subtle change there it does make a big difference especially if you’re working odd angles with your wrist
Uhhh no. Get the 3/8 stubby with thin wall metric sockets from 6-24mm. Then get a mid torque m18fuel with thi k wall 10/15-32mm sockets. Thag makes the most sense economically. Cuz theres still alot of stuff a mid torque can handle over the new stubby. Better yet get a 3/8 stubby a 1/2" high torque. High torques rarely needed though. Outside of trucks or seized lug nuts my gen 1 stubby can handle all lug nuts. Now i work on diesel trucks so thats not even often but most dont work on diesels. I reccommend 3/8 stub 1/2hi torque with those socket ranges. Can get just about everything done with that. Edit: actrually in my experience ive never had anything socket wise i can get done with that outside of specialty bits-triple square, torx, swivel sockets etc. The thick sockets on a 1/2 stubby just dont handle great.
@dailydrivensedans4875 - my strategy was and still is 3/8" Stubby M12 and 1/2" High-Torque M18, there's nothing in my life that the HT M18 won't be able to tackle.
I don’t think I’m the first, but I seem to be in the minority of RUclipsrs. For me, I don’t really need to change speed/torque much. I’m just tearing rusty cars apart so full blast is all I need.
After getting the tri light on the impact driver I knew they were going to add it to the stubby wrench. The lights in dark spaces lit up almost everything in front of it which is even better for mechanics
Agreed, that was kind of a big miss on the old stubby. If your hand was facing a different direction than your face, it didn’t light up anything you could see. They definitely fixed that concern 👍
A lot of ppl griped about the gen1 1/2" not being as powerful as the 3/8" version. I have no first hand experience with gen1 1/2" to say if it's true or not but I hope they addressed that with the gen2.
Crazy how polarizing is the new gear selector! Some hate it, some love it. Not a lot of reviewer sounds neutral about it. I like it, it works better than I expected.
The issue is most of the M12 tools have the direction switch in the worst possible place. I frequently put my tools in neutral while using them especially at awkward angles. It's like Milwaukee used children's hands as the model for the design.
I've got to be honest before I pick the gen 2 up. The neutral toggle is just as inconvenient as you claim. You need to SEE the selector in either scenario. Great video though still worth the upgrade for the same and more reasons
If the torque wasn't such a HUGE upgrade over the gen 1 Stubby, I'd have likely passed on getting the new one. The gen 1 was great to me, but the new one is a much mightier little beast.
It only hits the torque rating with their newer more expensive batteries but it will still hit like 450ish with the older stuff. Still love my first gen, I’ve had a few things it can’t take off but it still have a LARGE range for its size. It’s my go to
Anyone got some insight on how these things work?How is this thing double the torc? Just battery? Engine so much better? Wouldn’t it mean the battery drain twice as fast with double the torc? Durability 5 vs 10 years heavy use with similar components? Double the force = double the wear? Any other big things I am missing?
Just bought the gen 1 version recently because i did not like the trigger change for the gear or speed selector cos when you use it and stop and start on lugs or bolts etc it will get changed
It won’t change speeds/modes unless you’re pulling the trigger in the neutral setting, which when working on things isn’t something I’d be doing. To each their own tho, some ppl love it because it has 2X more power than the gen 1, some don’t like it because of mode selection
I've read that you lose only a small amount of power if you're not running Forge. Can't recall the exact figure at the moment, but it wasn't much loss at all.
I'm really impressed with the improvements for the GEN2. In the rust belt areas, an impact is a must. Rusty nuts/bolts have a tendency to round off, shear, or snap when using leverage only.
@@TorqueAndTwisted i was thinking about framing, I could not live life without my grandpas big ass impact gun. How do bolts get so rusty they turn the fucking thing into a unibody
I changed gears probably twice a year on my old one lol, it’s usually just all the way to max because I’m trying to remove rusty fasteners and I don’t need any type of torque setting control for that
@Hood.Housekeeping quiet a bit..If I'm taking off center caps I'll drop it down to one or the driver mode.. only cause the bolts on forged wheels snap easy. Then back to 3 for anything else.
In hand it feels almost identical. I was concerned it was going to be angled or weighted/balanced differently but it’s pretty much identical in those aspects 👍
I love the original Stubby and did a lot of car/equipment teardown work with it over the past couple years. Interested to see how this new Stubby measures up against some of the bigger rusty seized subframe / suspension bolts that always required the bigger M18 impact to come out.
Oh yes, easily. For reference, most passenger vehicle lug nuts are torqued around 80-100 lb/ft. Larger trucks like a Ford F250 have wheels torqued just above 150 lb/ft.
HAVE NOTICED THAT IT GOES INTO PROTECTION MODE FASTER THEN THE GEN 1 HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE TESTING ON THE 3/8 and 1/2 PIN DETENT AND IT DOES NOT PUT THE POWER OF THE 2962-20 MID TQ AND I'M BETTING THAT MILWAUKEE WILL MAKE A FORGE BATTERY WITH TABLESS CELLS NEXT PIPE LINE
@@TorqueAndTwisted yeah, was using it to put some 4mm allen bolts into a split collar clamp for a ballscrew setup. Easy into it with the variable trigger speed, the thing kept going into that mode. Had to "commit" and not ease in the trigger so much. Just another learning curve for it. Nice to know I/m not gonna just destroy every tiny piece of hardware i put this thing to use on,.
4mm fasteners might be a better job for an impact driver, not an impact wrench. I don’t know exactly what you’re up against, but I think you might have too much tool for that fastener unless you’re trying to run them 100 ft/lbs into something
@@TorqueAndTwisted oh ofc but I'm not running them in with it, just starting them. also the warehouse is huge. If i carried every tool i needed in my bag id be easily pulling 100+ lbs. So a compact impact wrench will do the job of both for me. I own a driver, its just at the moment the asset wasn't hard blocked and needed to be running within 15mins. So I use whatever on me. Usually I put those together with an Allen key but it can be tricky to do fast by hand since it wasn't to turn on you from the transfer case of the motor.
If you’re just starting 4 mm fasteners, I’m blown away that you’re using a tool that’s meant for way harder work. Again, I suggest an impact driver not an impact wrench for this. But it’s not my job, you do you man
@@TorqueAndTwisted Haven’t done that yet. I’m not TRYING to break them lol they make me money. But I would love to have an excuse to upgrade. But they just keep on going! Best electric tools on the market if you ask my opinion.
Man I need me one in a 1/2 inch for max torque. I'd get a 3/8 but it'll break the 3/8 to 1/2 adapter, it's happened before and at those torque levels I bet it'll cheese them up fast.
Good question. That depends a lot on what you're working on most often. I work on cars with mine and space can get limited. I can fit a 3/8" drive socket into more space than a 1/2 socket. So for me, I go 3/8 as that's the most useful for me.
honnestly i love tri led but when you work in the salt and rust and oil like i do they get covered with junk while the single led because of its placement it doesnt. and personally i never change the modes its always in full power so for me if i upgrade its gonna be because of the power and i dont think i will. since i am not a mechanic anymore i dont use it everyday like i used to.
I rarely change my setting either (it’s usually at full power for rusty crusty teardowns). I’ll keep an eye on the grease and gunk level to get on my lights… I wonder if a little WD-40 wiped on them would help prevent buildup?
Torque specs are the same between those those two tools. I would suggest the 3/8 option because you can run smaller sockets, meaning you can fit the stubby into more tight clearances compared to half inch version. If clearance isn’t much of a concern, then it’s a tossup between the half inch and the 3/8 just based on what you prefer to use.
My gripe is they already had this and decided to release a lower rated impact and then released this to get us to buy. Just like phone manufacturers and every other industry. Keeps people in a buying loop for the latest upgrade
Home Depot sold out fast, then they came back with more available the next day. My advice, pull up the product on HD website and refresh the page a couple times a day (or hour if you really want one now). If any ppl cancel orders, they update it as available but you gotta be quick before someone else checks out with it in their online cart. Good luck. Im sure there will be tons more available in a week or so when they ship another batch out to retail.
the old stubby is one of my favorite tools, i would always grab the stubby instead of my mid/high torques. light weight and ergonomics is excellent. cant wait to get the gen 2 for christmas
Agreed! During all my vehicle tear downs I use the Stubby 99% of the time. The 1% is usually something big and rusty that it’ll have trouble with so gotta go with M18. Honestly, my M18 might be retired now with the 550 ft/lbs of torque from the new Stubby.
Yet unfortunately there’s many suspension bolts the M18 can’t fit to get to. She’ll stick around tho, I’m sure something will come up like a seized wheel hub or something
Just a heads up that new one doesnt get anywhere near the advertised torque with any batteries other than the high output 5ah, not even the 6.0 or the high output 2.5
Not many ppl are flipping thru the gears all day long. Most ppl leave it in full power mode for ripping things apart. IMO something else is gonna break before the trigger.
There's been a few that have mentioned the trigger wear being a possible concern. Time will tell on this one, I'm sure there are applications/professions that change the modes a lot more than myself
Well either which way it's all based on individual user opinion. To each their own. I like the GEN2 selector more because I can operate it one handed without moving the tool off the fastener to see/press the selector. GEN2 selector is especially convenient for me when fasteners are tough to reach or when my body is twisted into odd positions with little wiggle room.
No, that’s not what I would do, I wouldn’t guess. Like I said in the comment above, it’s much like knowing what gear you are in when you’re driving a manual car. I don’t have to look at the gear selector to know what gear I’m changing into because I know what gear I was just in… it’s that simple to me If I dive this too deep into an engine bay knowing it’s in mode 1, then I know what I gotta do without even looking at it to get to mode 2, mode 3 and mode 4 👍 (all one-handed, can’t see the tool in the workspace)
If you're relying on the mode selector for your torque, that's pretty silly. Experienced tool users set the torque by how hard or fast they squeeze the trigger. Mine never leaves 3
It’s not going to, I guess it depends on what you’re working on but in my experience working on heavy equipment it stays set to the highest setting at all times so I have no reason to swap the mode but the trigger is pulled hundreds of times a day anyway so I doubt it will make a difference
Nobody i know of is changing the modes on this tool enough to even think about wearing that trigger out. Most people use this tool for disassembly, and if that’s the case, you just leave it in the most powerful mode
I have the batteries I have and they work great for me so far. Yes the biggest battery offers a little bit more power, but not much more. Not enough for me to drop $200 for a battery that’s marginally better
I mean yeah it looks nice lol I normally use my stubby impact for regular or light jobs . I have a 1/2 impact for heavier jobs. I’d upgrade my 1/2, my 3/8 stubby has enough power for what it’s used for. But I think if you like the look, go for it. But it’s not necessary if you have a 3/8 and a 1/2 already. But that’s just my opinion. I’d still end up buying it eventually because I like tools🤷🏾♂️🤣
In no way did I buy this tool because the way it looks. I got it because it’s twice as powerful as the old stubby. This means I won’t have to stop what I’m doing to go grab my M18 high torque as much. 👍
I’ve heard of that issue with some of the Milwaukee tools but I’ve never experienced it over the 4 years and 15 tools. If I were you, I’d go exchange it (or send in for warranty if past exchange date). Perhaps yours was just kind of loose/defective from the start.
@@TorqueAndTwisted when I saw you mention 550 nut busting torque that’s a big upgrade and lighter than the 250 previously nut busting torque. I just recently purchase the 250 version and this is my 1st impact wrench!! God now ima have to go through the refund process and wait to get the 550 new m12 fuel brushless.
The original Stubby was/is amazing but the new one having over 2X the power is insane, and well worth the upgrade IMO. The gen2 Stubby should be able to handle almost any rusty/seized bolt on any passenger car and avoids the need to get an M18 high-torque for such situations.
I bought it: (run now as ACE Hardware still lists them as in-stock) I was on the “email list” for when it was released at Home Depot. It sold out in a couple minutes on their website. Sold out once before I could even checkout, but someones order must have canceled because about an hour later a few were listed as available so I checked out 👍
I’m seeing some websites say that it’s 550in-lbs not ft-lbs which would make it 45ft-lbs. but then I see the actual box that says ft-lbs… Wish I’d seen this before buying the older, half as strong one. 😅 Oh well.
@ No, I bought I new/used off marketplace. Only paid $100 so I’m not complaining at all. lol Besides I wanted it for working on lawn tools like chainsaws and leaf blowers so it’s probably better that I didn’t get the higher torque one after all. I have the high torque 3/8ths too and this just meets it at the other end of the scale really.
Sounds like you'll be just fine with that version. I ran the gen1 stubby for a long time on small engines, lawn stuff, and cars...rarely did it get stumped.
@ Yeah I used it this morning to remove a flywheel on a 362c and it flew right off! Would you recommend a higher ah battery or would the 3 or 4.0 be just fine? I have a 5.0 on it now. Just wondering if the weight is worth the power.
@@TorqueAndTwisted yea man i got it a month ago its been good and i used it on that chevy caliper, then after that it sounds like there is something scraping on the inside
I need a stubby to throw in the car. Really looking at this one, but I don't like the idea of keeping track of batteries, or dropping $300+ on something that will live in my car.
The tool can live in the car no problem. The battery won’t like high heat being parked in sun or freezing temps if that’s your climate. If you’re on the hunt for a Stubby, the gen1 is likely going to be clearanced soon since it’s currently same price as gen2 stubby. I often get Milwaukee tools from Home Depot because they run tool+battery bundle deals a lot. Usually it works out to a free battery or more depending on what you need.
Does anyone consistently have problems with the m12 batteries? I’ve only had my new drill for two months and both batteries went out. Never dropped em, mistreated my tools nothing
The old stubby is amazing the new one is stubby on steroids what’s not to love !!
The original Stubby is an amazing tool. I'm excited to put the new version work!
Voltage drops.
Milwaukee m12 needs a stronger battery for tools with this amount of power draw.
@@pswelles5714 I bet there's plans to do exactly that.
@@pswelles5714you’ll sacrifice battery size, with 12v they only need 3 cells at ~4v each
Young folks don't understand how nice it is to have cordless tools with high torque. Gennys and 100' 15 amp rated cords. Heavy, cumbersome, and loud.
Stop and smell the roses when you get a chance.
Oh I’ve been there before. I used to have basic hand tools only, no workbench, no tool boxes, working out of buckets full of wrenches. I’m very grateful for the good stuff
Still have to use a generator on jobs with no power to charge batteries. 100ft cords everywhere regardless. Jobsites haven't changed much but technology makes certain aspects easier 👍
One of the few things i an grateful in life are my milwaukee tools and my car. That about sums up what I own but man my milwaukee tools make life so much more enjoyable.
Unfortunately my m12 ratchet went mia with a 5amp ho battery so thats like 300$ i cant afford to replace. I still miss it everday. That tool made my boss alot of money!
@@quellenathanar try 100’ air hose and deafening sound levels
@dailydrivensedans4875 - bummer about the m12 ratchet gone, buy keep an eye on Home Depot's October and November sales...they generally pair the ratchets with batteries and/or other tools at prices well below $300.
Diesel tech here, that 550ft-pound torque is completely true. Got the stubby and it took off a lug nut off of a semi which are torqued to 500 ft-pound of torque. Milwaukee rule!!
Glad to hear it! When I saw the new torque specs I knew I had to have it because the old Stubby was great but the big nasty stuff always stumped it.
Love when a company actually makes amazing upgrades to their existing tools!
Agreed! They knocked it out of the park with this new model of an already amazing tool
Milwaukee is the Apple of power tools.
I got the new one a week ago and im literally not using any other tool! It works on the inside of the car, outside, underneath, its small and super strong! Highly recommended
It's an extremely useful tool all around! I've used it to build engine cranes, engine stands, rip engines and transmission out, rip subframes off and everything in between.
@ the other impressive prart is been able to remove big bolts such as lug nuts or the caliper brake bolts! Super cool
I hope the new one is as durable as the old one. My old one still does the trick even after all the abuse I’ve put it through. One time I accidentally dropped it into an oil drain pan on a diesel truck I was working on. Completely submerged it. Pulled it out, took the battery out and I let it sit 16 hours. Besides the permanent black stained red plastic it was completely unfazed
Make sure to get the new 5.0 battery. TTC just tested the new vs old batteries and the difference is massive.
I made the upgrade, have to new one at work and old one at home, loved my old one but it did struggle a bit, new one is just fucking crazy
Yeah man my old Stubby did 90% or more of what I asked of it. On my current project car engine removal it required the M18 high torque for a few 30 year old rusted subframe bolts and one of the tie rods. The Stubby did the rest. I’m excited to see how gen2 Stubby handles some big old rusty bolts
Dude won’t touch either of those again till a new one comes out
@curranwilliamson1300 - Don't be that guy
the issue I had with the old one was that area that sticks out behind the handle and under the housing at the rear. Every now and then the area between my thumb and index finger is always feeling that bump. They fixed that nuisance on the new one.
Well I had to go check that…now I see that with just a subtle change there it does make a big difference especially if you’re working odd angles with your wrist
@@TorqueAndTwisted it bothered me for quite some time especially when it digs in
The old stubby is my favorite impact I’ve ever bought. I’ll be buying the new one for work and taking my old one home!
And the best tool you can have as you age is light and lots of it.
Couldn’t agree more! I have a Milwaukee underhood light and one of their M12 Rover lights to keep me lit up
Get the gen 2 in 1/2 and get the gen 1 in 3/8. Its a perfect set up
If I didn't have an M18 High Torque 1/2" I'd totally have the dual GEN2/GEN1 Stubby setup.
Exactly what I did
Uhhh no. Get the 3/8 stubby with thin wall metric sockets from 6-24mm.
Then get a mid torque m18fuel with thi k wall 10/15-32mm sockets.
Thag makes the most sense economically.
Cuz theres still alot of stuff a mid torque can handle over the new stubby.
Better yet get a 3/8 stubby a 1/2" high torque. High torques rarely needed though.
Outside of trucks or seized lug nuts my gen 1 stubby can handle all lug nuts.
Now i work on diesel trucks so thats not even often but most dont work on diesels.
I reccommend 3/8 stub 1/2hi torque with those socket ranges. Can get just about everything done with that.
Edit: actrually in my experience ive never had anything socket wise i can get done with that outside of specialty bits-triple square, torx, swivel sockets etc.
The thick sockets on a 1/2 stubby just dont handle great.
@dailydrivensedans4875 - my strategy was and still is 3/8" Stubby M12 and 1/2" High-Torque M18, there's nothing in my life that the HT M18 won't be able to tackle.
You are the first person I have encountered who feels the speed change controls on the gen 2 is an improvement.
I don’t think I’m the first, but I seem to be in the minority of RUclipsrs. For me, I don’t really need to change speed/torque much. I’m just tearing rusty cars apart so full blast is all I need.
After getting the tri light on the impact driver I knew they were going to add it to the stubby wrench. The lights in dark spaces lit up almost everything in front of it which is even better for mechanics
Agreed, that was kind of a big miss on the old stubby. If your hand was facing a different direction than your face, it didn’t light up anything you could see. They definitely fixed that concern 👍
Like the one handed speed change
Agreed! Much nicer than the gen1 button style imo
Yea that’s like a clutch cheat code
I'm gonna keep the 3/8 gen1 and will upgrade the 1/2 to the gen2
A lot of ppl griped about the gen1 1/2" not being as powerful as the 3/8" version. I have no first hand experience with gen1 1/2" to say if it's true or not but I hope they addressed that with the gen2.
@@TorqueAndTwistedno it's the same story
@lightsaber12345 - have you tested gen2 3/8” against the gen2 1/2”
Crazy how polarizing is the new gear selector! Some hate it, some love it. Not a lot of reviewer sounds neutral about it. I like it, it works better than I expected.
I'm basically indifferent about it because I'm rarely taking it out of full power mode anyways. To each their own on this new selector.
The issue is most of the M12 tools have the direction switch in the worst possible place. I frequently put my tools in neutral while using them especially at awkward angles. It's like Milwaukee used children's hands as the model for the design.
Old stubby is a beast, and I grabbed a mid torque with case charger and battery for $150 on Amazon somehow 😅 if stubby won't get it it's stupid tight
I've come across some stupid tight stuff...mostly axel nuts and old subframes on cars is when my gen1 stubby wouldn't do it.
Make sure you buy it with the 5 amp high output
I've got to be honest before I pick the gen 2 up. The neutral toggle is just as inconvenient as you claim. You need to SEE the selector in either scenario. Great video though still worth the upgrade for the same and more reasons
If the torque wasn't such a HUGE upgrade over the gen 1 Stubby, I'd have likely passed on getting the new one. The gen 1 was great to me, but the new one is a much mightier little beast.
@TorqueAndTwisted it's prettier too
the old one for me its more better but the new one i like the light setup
The new one is more than twice as powerful as well 👍
@TorqueAndTwisted try elitech....this tool can beat this milwaukee so easy if u want perform and durability
My old stubby is on her way out and passed warranty marker. Looks like I'll be grabbing the 3/8th variant this time.
Dang, I haven’t heard of too many people using their stubby to death. Nice work!
Great video on impacts on Milwaukee. The best part of the video is what your not talking about is Too Gun cassette tape.
lol I like to throw in some Easter eggs. Cassettes in the background have become a theme recently for me 😎
@@TorqueAndTwisted It sure makes the video more interesting
I have the first gen in 3/8, ill be getting the new one in 1/2”
Rock on! Time to bust some nuts!!
For me it’s the torque that’s worth the upgrade, had it just been the way of changing settings I’d have said not but worth getting over the old.
Oh absolutely! The 2X+ torque upgrade is the game changer. The mode selector definitely isn't worth the upgrade on it's own imo
@@TorqueAndTwisted glad it’s not just my thinking 😊
I cant wait to get my hands on one of these!
Old stubby still kicking ass tho.
It only hits the torque rating with their newer more expensive batteries but it will still hit like 450ish with the older stuff. Still love my first gen, I’ve had a few things it can’t take off but it still have a LARGE range for its size. It’s my go to
Anyone got some insight on how these things work?How is this thing double the torc?
Just battery? Engine so much better?
Wouldn’t it mean the battery drain twice as fast with double the torc?
Durability 5 vs 10 years heavy use with similar components? Double the force = double the wear?
Any other big things I am missing?
Do another video and mention the model number. Home Depot loves to hide that information😊
Both model numbers have been in the description since I uploaded the video 👍
About time they got away from that stupid blister button arrangement! Hell yes finally trigger pulls to change modes. Nice upgrade.
Some people love it, some hate it, others don’t care at all lol
Looking forward to this one
Same! It just came in, haven't had a chance to bang on it yet
Just bought the gen 1 version recently because i did not like the trigger change for the gear or speed selector cos when you use it and stop and start on lugs or bolts etc it will get changed
It won’t change speeds/modes unless you’re pulling the trigger in the neutral setting, which when working on things isn’t something I’d be doing. To each their own tho, some ppl love it because it has 2X more power than the gen 1, some don’t like it because of mode selection
Tool test channel tested this one, as long as your running the new forged battery your hitting the torque specs.. it’s a cool tool tho
I've read that you lose only a small amount of power if you're not running Forge. Can't recall the exact figure at the moment, but it wasn't much loss at all.
@@TorqueAndTwisted nice
Im not a fan of impacts what so ever, but that easy trigger pull to change that thing you talked about makes me interested
I'm really impressed with the improvements for the GEN2. In the rust belt areas, an impact is a must. Rusty nuts/bolts have a tendency to round off, shear, or snap when using leverage only.
@@TorqueAndTwisted i was thinking about framing, I could not live life without my grandpas big ass impact gun. How do bolts get so rusty they turn the fucking thing into a unibody
How often do you and others change gears.
I changed gears probably twice a year on my old one lol, it’s usually just all the way to max because I’m trying to remove rusty fasteners and I don’t need any type of torque setting control for that
@Hood.Housekeeping quiet a bit..If I'm taking off center caps I'll drop it down to one or the driver mode.. only cause the bolts on forged wheels snap easy. Then back to 3 for anything else.
I’m excited for it
I’ve concluded that unless this or my Dewalt dies, I should be set on impacts for life. Unless for some reason I start messing with big trucks.
Yeah the GEN2 should be able to handle everything a passenger car could throw at it. She’s one beefy little nugget
You have to have the 5.0 high output battery to get the full power out. Watch the tourqe test channel's video, supper informational
Can’t wait for mine to come in
In hand it feels almost identical. I was concerned it was going to be angled or weighted/balanced differently but it’s pretty much identical in those aspects 👍
I hated the power adjustment on the new one when I first heard about it, but if it only changes while in neutral then its not a big deal.
Didn’t know I had a new tool to buy 😆
lol there’s always room in the tool box, and if not, there’s always a bigger tool box🤣
That Top Gun cassette in the background though......😮
sucks that you HAVE to use the 5 amp ho batterry to get power outve it
Getting it,I see myself liking it more.I have the old version of it and the lighting is ok.Usually have the 6.0 amp battery on the old version
I love the original Stubby and did a lot of car/equipment teardown work with it over the past couple years. Interested to see how this new Stubby measures up against some of the bigger rusty seized subframe / suspension bolts that always required the bigger M18 impact to come out.
Will take off lugnuts
Oh yes, easily. For reference, most passenger vehicle lug nuts are torqued around 80-100 lb/ft. Larger trucks like a Ford F250 have wheels torqued just above 150 lb/ft.
Well my old stubby got stolen so saving for the new stubby , I think the old ones are being discounted slowly as well 😢
I just posted a new Short today showing how to get 10% OFF the new stubby if you're still in the market.
HAVE NOTICED THAT IT GOES INTO PROTECTION MODE FASTER THEN THE GEN 1 HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE TESTING ON THE 3/8 and 1/2 PIN DETENT AND IT DOES NOT PUT THE POWER OF THE 2962-20 MID TQ AND I'M BETTING THAT MILWAUKEE WILL MAKE A FORGE BATTERY WITH TABLESS CELLS NEXT PIPE LINE
Interesting, I’ll have to keep an eye on “protection mode”
@@TorqueAndTwisted yeah, was using it to put some 4mm allen bolts into a split collar clamp for a ballscrew setup. Easy into it with the variable trigger speed, the thing kept going into that mode. Had to "commit" and not ease in the trigger so much. Just another learning curve for it. Nice to know I/m not gonna just destroy every tiny piece of hardware i put this thing to use on,.
4mm fasteners might be a better job for an impact driver, not an impact wrench. I don’t know exactly what you’re up against, but I think you might have too much tool for that fastener unless you’re trying to run them 100 ft/lbs into something
@@TorqueAndTwisted oh ofc but I'm not running them in with it, just starting them. also the warehouse is huge. If i carried every tool i needed in my bag id be easily pulling 100+ lbs. So a compact impact wrench will do the job of both for me. I own a driver, its just at the moment the asset wasn't hard blocked and needed to be running within 15mins. So I use whatever on me. Usually I put those together with an Allen key but it can be tricky to do fast by hand since it wasn't to turn on you from the transfer case of the motor.
If you’re just starting 4 mm fasteners, I’m blown away that you’re using a tool that’s meant for way harder work. Again, I suggest an impact driver not an impact wrench for this. But it’s not my job, you do you man
Need to use the newest battery to get the 550lbs of torque
Yes but the other batteries don’t have much drop off for max torque
Those dewalt lights look nice
Just waiting on all my gen 1 impacts and electric ratchets to shit out on me before upgrading. But none of them have yet. 😂
Yeah they do take a beating and keep on going. I've abused the m12 ratchet in ways they say you shouldn't
@@TorqueAndTwisted Haven’t done that yet. I’m not TRYING to break them lol they make me money. But I would love to have an excuse to upgrade. But they just keep on going! Best electric tools on the market if you ask my opinion.
Man I need me one in a 1/2 inch for max torque. I'd get a 3/8 but it'll break the 3/8 to 1/2 adapter, it's happened before and at those torque levels I bet it'll cheese them up fast.
should you go with a 3/8 or get the 1/2 for the amount of torque the new one has?
Good question. That depends a lot on what you're working on most often. I work on cars with mine and space can get limited. I can fit a 3/8" drive socket into more space than a 1/2 socket. So for me, I go 3/8 as that's the most useful for me.
Hella nice
honnestly i love tri led but when you work in the salt and rust and oil like i do they get covered with junk while the single led because of its placement it doesnt. and personally i never change the modes its always in full power so for me if i upgrade its gonna be because of the power and i dont think i will. since i am not a mechanic anymore i dont use it everyday like i used to.
I rarely change my setting either (it’s usually at full power for rusty crusty teardowns). I’ll keep an eye on the grease and gunk level to get on my lights… I wonder if a little WD-40 wiped on them would help prevent buildup?
My stubby has 3 lights and no black trim left of the Milwaukee logo but has the old controls. I don’t know which one I have lol
Is it an M12 or M18 tool?
@@TorqueAndTwisted M12
Weird. What’s the model number? Should be on the sticker if you get a chance to look.
Does it make a big difference in torqure from buying a 1/2 to a 3/8s if I use the 5.0ah battery?
Torque specs are the same between those those two tools. I would suggest the 3/8 option because you can run smaller sockets, meaning you can fit the stubby into more tight clearances compared to half inch version. If clearance isn’t much of a concern, then it’s a tossup between the half inch and the 3/8 just based on what you prefer to use.
@TorqueAndTwisted thanks for the reply that was my concern to use the smaller sockets and stuff and for tighter clearance 👍👍
My gripe is they already had this and decided to release a lower rated impact and then released this to get us to buy. Just like phone manufacturers and every other industry. Keeps people in a buying loop for the latest upgrade
I don't buy a tool for the use of a flash light. That's why they make flashlights
Almost never grab my snap on 3/8 now or ratchet after getting the the 3/8
I'm confused 👍
I can't find this thing in stock anywhere!
Home Depot sold out fast, then they came back with more available the next day. My advice, pull up the product on HD website and refresh the page a couple times a day (or hour if you really want one now). If any ppl cancel orders, they update it as available but you gotta be quick before someone else checks out with it in their online cart.
Good luck. Im sure there will be tons more available in a week or so when they ship another batch out to retail.
the old stubby is one of my favorite tools, i would always grab the stubby instead of my mid/high torques. light weight and ergonomics is excellent. cant wait to get the gen 2 for christmas
Agreed! During all my vehicle tear downs I use the Stubby 99% of the time. The 1% is usually something big and rusty that it’ll have trouble with so gotta go with M18. Honestly, my M18 might be retired now with the 550 ft/lbs of torque from the new Stubby.
Don't count on it
Don’t count on what?
That you will retire your m18 there is still plenty of suspension bolts that you will need it for
Yet unfortunately there’s many suspension bolts the M18 can’t fit to get to. She’ll stick around tho, I’m sure something will come up like a seized wheel hub or something
Just a heads up that new one doesnt get anywhere near the advertised torque with any batteries other than the high output 5ah, not even the 6.0 or the high output 2.5
When it will be available in canada?
I wish I knew the answer it that…maybe Milwaukee has it listed on their site?
i never change the mode, it has always stayed on 3 for years
Basically the same thing for me. I’m always removing stuff, not worried much about limiting the torque beyond a little trigger control.
That trigger switch is going to break overtime
Not many ppl are flipping thru the gears all day long. Most ppl leave it in full power mode for ripping things apart.
IMO something else is gonna break before the trigger.
I like everything but the mode change, I've changed by accident.
Haven't been able get get my hands on one yet grrrrr.....
I heard they sold out fast. I was on a pre-order list and got lucky
Can you change tires with these?
Yes, easily. Car lug nuts are usually somewhere between 80 - 120 ft/lbs.
Im a bit salty that my $300 3 yo 3/8 impact is old now..... damn time does move forward.
Seems the only “downside” is the new stubby will go through a trigger switch a little quicker having to use the button to switch modes.
Yes but that's likely a very small a concern for most users considering how infrequently modes are changed during jobs,
@@TorqueAndTwisted yeah very true that’s why I quoted downside. I don’t really see it as a concern just playing devils advocate haha.
There's been a few that have mentioned the trigger wear being a possible concern. Time will tell on this one, I'm sure there are applications/professions that change the modes a lot more than myself
I’m just gunna make an excuse to use this 24/7 lol
Offer to rotate tires for $5 and it’ll pay for itself 👍
The old mode selector is deff better. Almost no one else is saying thats one thats better on the new one.
Well either which way it's all based on individual user opinion. To each their own. I like the GEN2 selector more because I can operate it one handed without moving the tool off the fastener to see/press the selector. GEN2 selector is especially convenient for me when fasteners are tough to reach or when my body is twisted into odd positions with little wiggle room.
@@TorqueAndTwisted So your going to guess and just pretend you didn't overtorgue a bolt? No thanks.
No, that’s not what I would do, I wouldn’t guess. Like I said in the comment above, it’s much like knowing what gear you are in when you’re driving a manual car. I don’t have to look at the gear selector to know what gear I’m changing into because I know what gear I was just in… it’s that simple to me
If I dive this too deep into an engine bay knowing it’s in mode 1, then I know what I gotta do without even looking at it to get to mode 2, mode 3 and mode 4 👍 (all one-handed, can’t see the tool in the workspace)
If you're relying on the mode selector for your torque, that's pretty silly. Experienced tool users set the torque by how hard or fast they squeeze the trigger. Mine never leaves 3
I've used both now and honestly makes little difference for me, I would have been fine with the old style button but the new method is not bad either.
I'm sure all the trigger squeezes to change speeds won't wear out the trigger....
It’s not going to, I guess it depends on what you’re working on but in my experience working on heavy equipment it stays set to the highest setting at all times so I have no reason to swap the mode but the trigger is pulled hundreds of times a day anyway so I doubt it will make a difference
Nobody i know of is changing the modes on this tool enough to even think about wearing that trigger out. Most people use this tool for disassembly, and if that’s the case, you just leave it in the most powerful mode
You have the wrong batteries on for the rated torque
I have the batteries I have and they work great for me so far. Yes the biggest battery offers a little bit more power, but not much more. Not enough for me to drop $200 for a battery that’s marginally better
I mean yeah it looks nice lol I normally use my stubby impact for regular or light jobs . I have a 1/2 impact for heavier jobs. I’d upgrade my 1/2, my 3/8 stubby has enough power for what it’s used for. But I think if you like the look, go for it. But it’s not necessary if you have a 3/8 and a 1/2 already. But that’s just my opinion. I’d still end up buying it eventually because I like tools🤷🏾♂️🤣
In no way did I buy this tool because the way it looks. I got it because it’s twice as powerful as the old stubby. This means I won’t have to stop what I’m doing to go grab my M18 high torque as much. 👍
How long are they going to take to release these?
It has already been released, and it has already sold out in most places.
When I checked last night, Ace Hardware still had stock showing online
Will there be an 18v version?
Hell yeah
Im getting a stuby just thinking about it
Time for a cold shower 💦
Wow not surprised they copied dewalts lighting design 😂
I like the old controls 🤷♂️
I wish to baby Jesus they went with the slide battery. Am I the only one that has problems with it shutting off from high vibrations?
I’ve heard of that issue with some of the Milwaukee tools but I’ve never experienced it over the 4 years and 15 tools. If I were you, I’d go exchange it (or send in for warranty if past exchange date). Perhaps yours was just kind of loose/defective from the start.
Bend the battery tabs out a bit, not too much but it helped mine,
There is a new battery retainer on these that causes the battery to fit a lot more snug
I didn’t know there was a new m12 stubby…
It just came out beginning of this month, and it’s sold out almost everywhere already
@@TorqueAndTwisted when I saw you mention 550 nut busting torque that’s a big upgrade and lighter than the 250 previously nut busting torque. I just recently purchase the 250 version and this is my 1st impact wrench!! God now ima have to go through the refund process and wait to get the 550 new m12 fuel brushless.
The original Stubby was/is amazing but the new one having over 2X the power is insane, and well worth the upgrade IMO. The gen2 Stubby should be able to handle almost any rusty/seized bolt on any passenger car and avoids the need to get an M18 high-torque for such situations.
A real question Where did you get one? Alrighty, was it sent to you by Milwaukee? Or were you able to find it in a store?
I bought it: (run now as ACE Hardware still lists them as in-stock)
I was on the “email list” for when it was released at Home Depot. It sold out in a couple minutes on their website. Sold out once before I could even checkout, but someones order must have canceled because about an hour later a few were listed as available so I checked out 👍
Trigger pull torque setting😢 that'll change with the gen 3...
Doesn’t bother me, I always have it in highest power mode for tear downs
Dewalt already had the lights like that in their stub guess Milwaukee followed behind…
I'm okay with that.
No friction Ring! Pin all the way 🎉
I’m seeing some websites say that it’s 550in-lbs not ft-lbs which would make it 45ft-lbs.
but then I see the actual box that says ft-lbs…
Wish I’d seen this before buying the older, half as strong one. 😅
Oh well.
Are you still with in the return window? The gen1 Stubby is still a great tool either way 👍
@ No, I bought I new/used off marketplace.
Only paid $100 so I’m not complaining at all. lol
Besides I wanted it for working on lawn tools like chainsaws and leaf blowers so it’s probably better that I didn’t get the higher torque one after all.
I have the high torque 3/8ths too and this just meets it at the other end of the scale really.
Sounds like you'll be just fine with that version. I ran the gen1 stubby for a long time on small engines, lawn stuff, and cars...rarely did it get stumped.
@ Yeah I used it this morning to remove a flywheel on a 362c and it flew right off!
Would you recommend a higher ah battery or would the 3 or 4.0 be just fine?
I have a 5.0 on it now.
Just wondering if the weight is worth the power.
If you’re not using it constantly for hours straight, the smaller batteries should be just fine imo.
If I warranty my old stubby do I get the new one for free?
Haha, doubt it.
You need the 5.0 ho to have the right ipm
the one hand change mode sucks nuts
Don’t put it close to your nuts
Does is use a new type of battery?
No but you’ll want to buy a 5ah high output
milwaukee is the best
just messed up my gen 1 stubby on caliper bolts on a chevy 1500. i just got it 😢
Messed it up? If it’s defective and you just got it, you can likely exchange it or contact Milwaukee for warranty.
@@TorqueAndTwisted yea man i got it a month ago its been good and i used it on that chevy caliper, then after that it sounds like there is something scraping on the inside
@@DEMONSXNdefinitely defective just RMA it
Yeah I’d go for exchange if you bought it retail. If you bought it online, you’ll likely need to go thru Milwaukees warranty
I need a stubby to throw in the car. Really looking at this one, but I don't like the idea of keeping track of batteries, or dropping $300+ on something that will live in my car.
The tool can live in the car no problem. The battery won’t like high heat being parked in sun or freezing temps if that’s your climate.
If you’re on the hunt for a Stubby, the gen1 is likely going to be clearanced soon since it’s currently same price as gen2 stubby.
I often get Milwaukee tools from Home Depot because they run tool+battery bundle deals a lot. Usually it works out to a free battery or more depending on what you need.
Has anyone actually tested those claims?
Torque Testing Channel just did.
a tool is a tool is a tool
Tool is a band
The new one you only get max torque when you pair with a 5amp HO!!!
Yes, but the drop off with smaller battery is very minimal
Does anyone consistently have problems with the m12 batteries? I’ve only had my new drill for two months and both batteries went out. Never dropped em, mistreated my tools nothing
Only my 6AH one. I've warrantied it twice now. The 2.0s work fine. The 6.0 will flash red and green at me.
@@jake-mv5oireally? That’s interesting asfff cause I actually have a problem with the 2.0s
Uhhhhh 550 ft lbs?! Du du daummm. What is that gen 2? I lose track any more
Yes this is gen2 of the M12 Stubby. First gen has 250 I believe
The trigger to change the settings is dumb .. id u start using it ull notice it 😅😅
Thing is, I don't really need to change settings that much. I use it for tear downs, basically leave it in full power 24/7
Alright guys be for real. Who is actually changing the torque settings. I've had mine for years and always just left it on 3.