Does a canting keel make it harder to recover from a Chinese gybe, since all that ballast is suddenly on the leeward side of the boat after the crash gybe?
To Paul Healey, gone are the days when the boom, being fully out, would swing violently across -- nearly decapitating those whom were not paying attention and really causing a death roll. Not to mention the huge rounding up which could then lead to another capsize. Still, a pretty harrowing situation.
Gone are the days??? I've been sailing for 50 years and I have never gybed with the main fully out. I learned at 5 yrs old to always pull in the main before going into a gybe.
Jackle61 Of course -- in a controlled situation -- a broach isn't. My point is because of the speed of the boats and design of the main it is never out a far as the past. There was one anecdote when I was learning to sail about an accidental gybe in the around GB race that took a crewman's head off .. because a wind shift caught the main and forced an accidental gybe/broach ...urban legend perhaps .. but my point is sill valid.
"... a strong squall violently swinging the boom to the other side"? Really? All the wind in the world is not going to "swing the boom" unless there is a significant wind shift that accompanies it, or (as was the case here) the bows went down the mine, rudders lost steerage, boat rolled to windward and continued to bear away to by the lee, then the main gybed.
Wouldn't you call what happened with both boats a broach? (that then turned into a Chinese gybe?) I guess it's kind of a hybrid between the 2, because they didn't lose steering necessarily, but they did both plow into big waves which stopped them and turned them. Maybe a new term is needed for these modern boats.
Also, I was just reading about a VOR70 from 9 or 10 years ago, and they said it took them 2 HOURS to properly recover, so I don't think these guys (and gals) did too bad!
Tony Hunter With or without canting keel - Ease all sheets. With canting, get it all the way to windward. Boat will come up. Hope everyones ok (especially those who were asleep on the (original) windward side.
A great demonstration of the keels job
Nice 'hove to'. Not the way I would do it ---but a good way to wake up the guys below. Actually pretty scary stuff.
that's crazy amazing work by the team to get her back up
When they were way over, was the boat still moving forward? And could they have totally rolled over?
Can anyone explain what you must do in such a situation? (with and without a canting keel)
that would be a rude awakening if i was in a bunk....lol
Does a canting keel make it harder to recover from a Chinese gybe, since all that ballast is suddenly on the leeward side of the boat after the crash gybe?
To Paul Healey, gone are the days when the boom, being fully out, would swing violently across -- nearly decapitating those whom were not paying attention and really causing a death roll. Not to mention the huge rounding up which could then lead to another capsize. Still, a pretty harrowing situation.
Gone are the days??? I've been sailing for 50 years and I have never gybed with the main fully out. I learned at 5 yrs old to always pull in the main before going into a gybe.
Jackle61 Of course -- in a controlled situation -- a broach isn't. My point is because of the speed of the boats and design of the main it is never out a far as the past. There was one anecdote when I was learning to sail about an accidental gybe in the around GB race that took a crewman's head off .. because a wind shift caught the main and forced an accidental gybe/broach ...urban legend perhaps .. but my point is sill valid.
Omg, take care Mapfre and good luck😯
"... a strong squall violently swinging the boom to the other side"? Really? All the wind in the world is not going to "swing the boom" unless there is a significant wind shift that accompanies it, or (as was the case here) the bows went down the mine, rudders lost steerage, boat rolled to windward and continued to bear away to by the lee, then the main gybed.
Wouldn't you call what happened with both boats a broach? (that then turned into a Chinese gybe?) I guess it's kind of a hybrid between the 2, because they didn't lose steering necessarily, but they did both plow into big waves which stopped them and turned them. Maybe a new term is needed for these modern boats.
Also, I was just reading about a VOR70 from 9 or 10 years ago, and they said it took them 2 HOURS to properly recover, so I don't think these guys (and gals) did too bad!
So educate me here- the difference is whether the boat starts rounding up or rounding down- is that correct?
why the video stops?
Holy shit.
It's Normal!
move the sails to the side they're supposed to be, and then gybe again.
Not fun!
Tony Hunter With or without canting keel - Ease all sheets. With canting, get it all the way to windward. Boat will come up. Hope everyones ok (especially those who were asleep on the (original) windward side.