Advanced Tips for Using the Waterborne Surf and Rail Adapters
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Learn advanced tips for installing and configuring the Waterborne Surf Adapter and Rail Adapter to create custom surfskates.
VIDEO TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction
00:55 Choosing Your Waterborne Surf Adapter
04:55 Choosing Between TKP and RKP Trucks
05:56 Choosing the Right Truck Hanger Width
07:10 How to Eliminate Wheelbite
08:26 Installing the Waterborne Surf Adapter
15:37 Installing the Waterborne Rail Adapter
20:05 Riding the Waterborne Koastal Surfskate
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I really wish this video, and the newer FIN system existed when I got in... I'm embarrassed by how long it took me to realize that you can change the wheelbase by flipping the rear adapter around backwards. That really soured me on it, since I typically run a shorter board.
My main Waterborne setup now though is a 30" board maxed out for lean, with oversized 180mm RKP trucks. It's basically as loose as I could possibly make it, and it still be ridable. It's not for performance, or any tricks. It's purely for the cloudlike, very precarious, ride. Because it simultaneously feels super comfy, and super dangerous.
Thanks again Steve. Your videos will go on to help many, many people.
You're an awesome long distance pumper! It's amazing how long you can ride without stepping down. Btw, what a sweet board and setup.
It is very easy to pump the waterborne for hours❤
The speed of this setup is probably its greatest feature! It is so fun to ride a t a realistic surfing speed like you are flying down the line of a wave, where the surfskate makes the appropriate sized arc
Yep! Surfskates with longer Wheelbases properly set up give you higher speed for the equivalent amount of lean as a short board. This translates into a much more Surfy feeling carving sensation. You can still carve full lean at super slow speeds, but at higher speeds, the carve arc has a larger radius than a short surfskate, which allows you to carve full lean at much higher speeds before G-forcing out or losing traction so to speak.
@@nateross14 hit the nail on the head with that explanation 🤙🏼💪🏼
I’m a carver cx guy who likes to pump long distances. I’m really thinking about give WB a chance. I tried smoothstar and didn’t like, too wobbly and unstable. How does WB compare to Smoothstar?
@@jimkika you should just buy and try for yourself ;)
Definitely looks like you are enjoying the Longboards! Might just have to try..
Great vid. Thanks Steve for addressing the wheelbase setups with rail adapter. The only thing left address is the speed wobbles that I get in Rail Adapter with waterborne RKP truck. I tried fix it by increasing the wheelbase swapping rail adapter plates.
Fantastic 🎉
Great video Steve. Great insider and info on fitting these.
I just bought a Waterborne for my son for his birthday in 2 weeks so we can both go SurfSkating.
I’m looking forward to going out with him and trying out his standard deck conversion. 😊
Cheers Graz
Hope you guys love them! Let us know if you need any help!
@@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS
Many thanks. Will do video of fitting them and first try outs etc.
cheers Graz
That looks like a fun spot to ride with that long berm and smooth concrete.
I’m glad to see I’m not the only one getting inner wheel bite slashes on my deck. 😅
I got the old style step up 1st ride ever made it 30 mins then lost the nuts so waiting for longer bolts wish i would have waited for the new one to come out but o well still a fun ride
@surfskateLove have you tried using the Quik Truk plates for swapping trucks during reviews? it would eliminate board shape and a lot of the variation in inner bolt distances. of course theres still the truck specific axle changes but it could help
Ive been watching your videos a lot lately. I’ve never surfskated before but it looks like so much fun. I ordered a waterborne fin system and I’m not sure what board to put it on. I have a 40” drop through longboard, pintail longboard and a traditional popsicle board. Which would be the best board to put it on for a beginner?
Excellent vid, very thorough and organized in presenting so much info. Have you ever used Major Arc trucks? I’ve moved most of my front trucks to them, paired with the Waterborne’s. They are very nimble and low in ride height.
Yes, I have, and I'm not a fan. Just personal preference. After being on surfskate trucks, they're just not loose enough for me. I haven't pairded them with a Waterborne though. But I would think that would be way too loose for my preference.
@@SurfskateLove yeah that extra maneuverability in the front is how I get away with reversed rear trucks for high speed stability
Nice play area though 👍🏄♂️
So are the new improve version is on their website now? I would like to order but I afraid they send me the old version.
Thanks...I received the adapters last week. A little too loose for my skill level but I ordered the harder bushings.
I was wondering if pumping with these is the same as with a regular setup. Its so unstable for me right now and wondered if RKP trucks would be better.
Thanks for the video.
What do you mean by "regular set up"?
@@SurfskateLovesorry, no surfskate adapter, 10x36 deck, TKP Trucks. I can pump on flat ground with this but it doesn't seem to work the same with the adapters but it may be the fact they feel a little unstable..
@@SurfskateLove I figured it out a little...I was used to pumping from the back leg....with this, it takes front leg. Still kinda scary and I can get wheelbite but fun.
Good stuff Steve! I've been going back and forth between RKP and TKP trucks, and my current preference is TKP on the front and RKP on the rear. The main thing I prefer about RKP is the placement of the nut which is not inline with the pivot rotation so the nuts don't self loosen. My TKP nuts tend to always self loosen because I'm always adjusting them trying out different configurations. Another thing I noticed is that RKP trucks compress the bushings with a different leverage than TKP which results in a more stable ride (at least to my feel) which helps limit Jacknifing on front adapters such as the Meraki which are prone to it. These are my current thoughts, and just when I think I have something figured out, experimenting presents a bunch of alternative possibilities!
What’s the longer board like for LDP compared to a shorter board ? Also do you think a rail adapter isn’t necessary for LDP. I added a front wedge on my waterborne as I didn’t have the fin system for more pump on my 36” longboard.
The longer ones are much better for LDP than shorter ones. And rail adapter is definitely necessary for LDP.. Your tail will slide like crazy without it if you're pumping aggressively.
I'm not sure if version of front WB I had was with any bushings. It became loose after hour and half.
Weird!
I’m a carver cx guy who likes to pump long distances. I’m really thinking about give WB a chance. I tried smoothstar and didn’t like, too wobbly and unstable. How does WB compare to Smoothstar?
Very different feels. The Waterborne has much deeper rail-to-rail lean, it's not as fluid, it has much more forward momentum. The Waterborne is fantastic for pumping long distances.
@@SurfskateLove love it. Thanks and keep up with this excellent job. I’m 42 and I was inspired to begin with surfskate after watching your videos. I’m better human being after discovered the surfskate vibe.
I'm wondering if Joey D has a Grasp yet?
Tell him all my others are just taking up space.
He doesn't own one yet but he's been riding one.
@@SurfskateLove I'm planning to get you hardest 65mm wheels for mine.
Where did you find the Koastal longboard???
Ebay!
@@SurfskateLove Just the deck? Wow, Ill have to look.
What does your cameraman or camerawoman ride on? Does he/she also ride a skateboard or surfskate?
Mountain bike with a GoPro strapped to her head.
Thanks for your reply! Your videos look great.
Oh I see it in the reflection of the building at 20:13 😂
Campus is always empty when you film