As I couldn't find a longer board then 36" anywhere here around nor on Amazon Belgium, Holland or France. Well ... only one option left ... asking my own ;-) I still had a plywood plate in my garage. I drew the shape a d took my hand saw and got a 106x28 cm board and sanded the edges. It's not perfect in 2 spots but I'm overall pleased with this intermediate result. Then went on line to order surf trucks and wheels. Now waiting till they are enlivened as I have no clue yet where to drill the holes. Once that is done I can further finish the wood sanding and putting on a varnish. Oh, I never ever stood on a board before. I'm 62 😅
Love the build vids man. 🤙 I love trying all diff long boards . I’ll share a vid of me using an NKX 46” deck with a smoothstar 1 clone from Amazon and a Carver C2 rear . Enjoy the day !🤙
Thank you for sharing these builds! I feel like creating surf skates with 50+ inch decks is a long overdue progression. Hopefully we’ll start seeing this trend be reflected in larger surf skate market trends. 🤙🏽
The first surfskate I bought was only 29” and because the deck was drilled for normal trucks, the adapter actually set the wheels behind your front foot which made it feel REALLY odd. On a whim I bought a 40” longboard and grafted the adapter onto that. What a difference! Not quite the 50”+ rides you have there but way more fun than the standard setup.
It's funny, when I made that video I thought I had wide RKPs on it because that's what I had started with on it. But I had spaced that I replaced them with narrower ones. So these are actually just 150mm wide. And that's my preference, even on wide decks like that. In every case I've tried wider hangers, I always prefer the 150mm.
Hi Steve. Thanks agsin for your videos and replies. Could I ask also a question ...I have a loaded Samma and an Ichurus with 180 mm paris trucks...will these be ok for the Waterborne adapter kit or too wide ? ..its just arrived Thanks
Dude, I’ve ordered one of the thin style water board adapters and the rail set up for the back and I have the envy 57 classic……. My question though sir is…….. Is there any way of elevating the truck into a higher position to avoid having to carve those lumps out of the board? I bought my MV classic back in 1998 and don’t particularly fancy having to carve those bits out. Is there anything you can recommend?
Given that these custom longboards have a unique fun characteristic to them, if I wanted a surfskate primarily as a cruiser (not necessarily wanting the full size of a longboard), would a longer wheelbase be better even outside of your guidelines? For example, if my normal stance is 15 inches, would it really be that bad to get a board that has a 18-20 inch wheelbase for cruising purposes?
Surfskate love, i have a Mindless Marauder II 42.5" kicktail longboard and the wheelbase is around 27,5", what surfskate truck is best for pumping and carving? i also own a carverXsantacruz(c5) love it, but want something more flowy out of the marauder.
Hi Steve. I have about 8 longboards...and one surfskate the Bolsa Carver..... could you please tell me as I've not ever experimented... but what could I put in the front and back of my Loaded Ichurus to make it into a surf skate like you have..? .. I'm clueless ! .. sorry..but like to try.... I could buy a meraki system for front or use my cx trucks from the bolsa for the front ..or get a water-borne for front ? .....but can I leave the standard trucks on the back of the Ichurus ( Paris 150s ? ) please help? Thanks
@@SurfskateLove Hi Steve. I really appreciate your reply. Thank you so much. I watch a lot of your videos and they've helped a lot. I live on the coast in England and started longboarding in my 50s and got pretty good at pumping and carving the coast now.. Got some quality boards like loaded and arbor .. but the bolsa carver was a game changer for pumping ..just brilliant....now I'll put the waterborne on my Ichurus which I'm sure will improve the pumping ability. Keep the videos coming they help loads of us !
I've been contemplating putting 149 Indy trucks, with 61mm nine ball wheels on a 55 inch Luke Nosewalker, in an attempt to achieve the result that it appears you already have. I'm older than you, haven't been keeping up on tech progression of trucks, and now can see that instead of using risers I should be investigating rails(?). Anyhow, any advice you can share regarding just putting 149 Indy trucks on a Nosewalker, with 61mm nine balls, and wedge risers? Great video, too, by the way.
Old school thinking, lack of familiarity with new truck designs and how they work, desire to use existing equipment on hand. For years I've skated on a first generation sector 9 Phoenix board, 44 inches long and relatively short wheelbase. With 149 Indy trucks, wedge risers, and 61mm nine balls, it's been very maneuverable for me. I think it's about as maneuverable as what you're achieving here with your impressive experimentation shown in the video. Is your nosewalker the 57 inch version? The later ones are 55 inches, and I've read have rwo fewer ply layers in their construction., so maybe more flexible. I don't know if the wheelbase is the same between the two models.
I was curious if anyone has riden the Lucid grip Birch 60 log. It seems like the perfect length and width 60 x 12. I like that it's an inch wider then the Koastal, but narrower then the Kahuna Creations Bombora, which is 59 x 14. The thing I'm most curious about is that it only comes with the Revenge Alpha 2 trucks, which I would love to see Steve review (I'm not up to date on all his videos, perhaps he has) I don't think you can buy the deck only like you can with Koastal (which also uses the same alpha trucks on its complete) or the Kahuna Creations. I have a YOW with the meraki trucks and I have a waterborne adapter that I have moved from deck to deck since roughly 2020. I have no idea how the Revenge trucks will perform and that makes me a little nervous. Thanks for what you do. I watched all of your early videos when you 1st got started. I took a long break after I found what I wanted. I have now come back to you as I have been shopping for a true Longboard. It is beautiful to see your progression of knowledge as well as the production quality of your videos. I absolutely love what you do. Thanks so much and any advice is appreciated!
I bought a 25 years old 60" x 11,5" longboard with 40" & 43" WB today (on eBay for 50€...) by accident 🤪 The trucks are a bit too wide, but CNC built. Everything needs some maintanance, but I can't wait to ride this plank. Probably with the Waterborne adapter, let's see.
I cant find anything i really like online as far as deck shapes/styles. So ill probably just make my own. Was going to buy a YOW deck to fit on my CX trucks, but its much more expensive than just making it.
Great video as always! These long boards do look very fun, and it’s encouraging to hear that in some cases they are even easier to pump over a distance than regular surfskates - I imagined they would take more effort.
Been watching your channel for a few months now, great info! I just tried the waterborne surf and rail adapter on my Loaded Bhangra 48.5". I normally like the flex of the bamboo deck but found it too soft or "mushy" when pumping and trying to generate speed with the surf adapter. I feel like I can pump harder and faster with a shorter, more rigid deck.
Really? That hasn't been my experience at all. How much have you played with it? And do you experiment with standing on different places when you pump?
@@SurfskateLove I gave it a few sessions before switching the adapter back to my shorter cruiser deck. Going downhill it was a fun and surfy ride, but over flat or uphill for longer distances, it just seemed like the softer flex absorbed a lot of energy instead of transferring it. Yes, body position really makes a difference on the longer deck. Jealous of your quiver!
It's really 'hard' in the first couple of minutes of watching this video to try to make my mind act mature enough to stop saying; "That's what she said.", or "Damn Steve, you're such a size queen." You know, with all the talk about big flexy decks that are super fun to pump on.... I'm dead... I'm just too much of a child.
As I couldn't find a longer board then 36" anywhere here around nor on Amazon Belgium, Holland or France. Well ... only one option left ... asking my own ;-) I still had a plywood plate in my garage. I drew the shape a d took my hand saw and got a 106x28 cm board and sanded the edges. It's not perfect in 2 spots but I'm overall pleased with this intermediate result. Then went on line to order surf trucks and wheels. Now waiting till they are enlivened as I have no clue yet where to drill the holes. Once that is done I can further finish the wood sanding and putting on a varnish. Oh, I never ever stood on a board before. I'm 62 😅
Love the build vids man. 🤙 I love trying all diff long boards . I’ll share a vid of me using an NKX 46” deck with a smoothstar 1 clone from Amazon and a Carver C2 rear . Enjoy the day !🤙
I have a Sector 9 Garuda Super Cruiser with a springy, cambered, concave 47” deck I think would become a dreamy ride with C7’s.
💯 Do it!
Thank you for sharing these builds! I feel like creating surf skates with 50+ inch decks is a long overdue progression. Hopefully we’ll start seeing this trend be reflected in larger surf skate market trends. 🤙🏽
The first surfskate I bought was only 29” and because the deck was drilled for normal trucks, the adapter actually set the wheels behind your front foot which made it feel REALLY odd. On a whim I bought a 40” longboard and grafted the adapter onto that. What a difference! Not quite the 50”+ rides you have there but way more fun than the standard setup.
It's awesome to see all these builds Steve! You're right board feel is completely subjective. Experimenting is so fun.
What’s size rkp’s are you using on the boat setup?? 180mm or 200mm?
It's funny, when I made that video I thought I had wide RKPs on it because that's what I had started with on it. But I had spaced that I replaced them with narrower ones. So these are actually just 150mm wide. And that's my preference, even on wide decks like that. In every case I've tried wider hangers, I always prefer the 150mm.
@@SurfskateLoveI appreciate the feedback!! I’m seriously considering getting the white wave chief to make a boat of my own
👏👏👏👏
Hi Steve. Thanks agsin for your videos and replies. Could I ask also a question ...I have a loaded Samma and an Ichurus with 180 mm paris trucks...will these be ok for the Waterborne adapter kit or too wide ? ..its just arrived Thanks
I prefer 150mm but they'll work!
Amazing. Thanks for posting. I’m inspired to do some experimenting myself
Absolutely stunning, cool and inspiring! Thank you!😀
How is the flex on that Koastal Drifter? I dont think you showed in this video.
It's okay, not great. Works well for what it is a cross-stepper. But not the best cruiser with the super wide wheelbase.
Wat about adding angled risers for better easier pumping LDP ? I see adding 15deg front 7deg back on flat boards ???
Try it and see!
Dude, I’ve ordered one of the thin style water board adapters and the rail set up for the back and I have the envy 57 classic……. My question though sir is…….. Is there any way of elevating the truck into a higher position to avoid having to carve those lumps out of the board? I bought my MV classic back in 1998 and don’t particularly fancy having to carve those bits out. Is there anything you can recommend?
Given that these custom longboards have a unique fun characteristic to them, if I wanted a surfskate primarily as a cruiser (not necessarily wanting the full size of a longboard), would a longer wheelbase be better even outside of your guidelines? For example, if my normal stance is 15 inches, would it really be that bad to get a board that has a 18-20 inch wheelbase for cruising purposes?
Surfskate love, i have a Mindless Marauder II 42.5" kicktail longboard and the wheelbase is around 27,5", what surfskate truck is best for pumping and carving?
i also own a carverXsantacruz(c5) love it, but want something more flowy out of the marauder.
Waterborne!
@@SurfskateLove thanks for the reply, :) i was about to buy the yow maraki, glad i asked in case
Outstanding video. The amount of time and info you put into the video was fantastic. Thank you and much surfskate love from the east coast.
Ever try CX trucks on any of these big boys?
Of course! They work great! Especially if you use harder bushings on rear, softer on front.
Thanks for your video from another part of the world) I’m so glad that found your channel. Keep doing vids like this
Hi Steve. I have about 8 longboards...and one surfskate the Bolsa Carver..... could you please tell me as I've not ever experimented... but what could I put in the front and back of my Loaded Ichurus to make it into a surf skate like you have..? .. I'm clueless ! .. sorry..but like to try.... I could buy a meraki system for front or use my cx trucks from the bolsa for the front ..or get a water-borne for front ? .....but can I leave the standard trucks on the back of the Ichurus ( Paris 150s ? ) please help? Thanks
I would throw a Waterborne on it. Both the surf adapter and rail adapter. Paris 150s will be great. Have fun!
@@SurfskateLove Hi Steve. I really appreciate your reply. Thank you so much. I watch a lot of your videos and they've helped a lot. I live on the coast in England and started longboarding in my 50s and got pretty good at pumping and carving the coast now.. Got some quality boards like loaded and arbor .. but the bolsa carver was a game changer for pumping ..just brilliant....now I'll put the waterborne on my Ichurus which I'm sure will improve the pumping ability. Keep the videos coming they help loads of us !
Oh my God, thank you thank you thank you, this is exactly the video i needed! THANKS!
I've been contemplating putting 149 Indy trucks, with 61mm nine ball wheels on a 55 inch Luke Nosewalker, in an attempt to achieve the result that it appears you already have. I'm older than you, haven't been keeping up on tech progression of trucks, and now can see that instead of using risers I should be investigating rails(?). Anyhow, any advice you can share regarding just putting 149 Indy trucks on a Nosewalker, with 61mm nine balls, and wedge risers? Great video, too, by the way.
Why wouldn't you just put a surfskate truck on it?
Old school thinking, lack of familiarity with new truck designs and how they work, desire to use existing equipment on hand. For years I've skated on a first generation sector 9 Phoenix board, 44 inches long and relatively short wheelbase. With 149 Indy trucks, wedge risers, and 61mm nine balls, it's been very maneuverable for me. I think it's about as maneuverable as what you're achieving here with your impressive experimentation shown in the video. Is your nosewalker the 57 inch version? The later ones are 55 inches, and I've read have rwo fewer ply layers in their construction., so maybe more flexible. I don't know if the wheelbase is the same between the two models.
Bro, my very first longboard was a 57 envy. I still have it in the garage. Nice one I’ve been wondering what to do.😂
What wheels are you rocking on the 2nd board
Those are my 65mm 81a, just a special edition color sample.
Is this color sample wheels available. This is the perfect color im after. Always wanted a greenish mint color version of your wheels
Oh bro, that’s it man. Waterborne adapter yeah did you use the original holes?
I wonder if the curve board truck would work with the envy
This is awesome thank you
It’s got so much flex, bro. It is the flexster😂😂😂
I was curious if anyone has riden the Lucid grip Birch 60 log. It seems like the perfect length and width 60 x 12. I like that it's an inch wider then the Koastal, but narrower then the Kahuna Creations Bombora, which is 59 x 14. The thing I'm most curious about is that it only comes with the Revenge Alpha 2 trucks, which I would love to see Steve review (I'm not up to date on all his videos, perhaps he has) I don't think you can buy the deck only like you can with Koastal (which also uses the same alpha trucks on its complete) or the Kahuna Creations. I have a YOW with the meraki trucks and I have a waterborne adapter that I have moved from deck to deck since roughly 2020. I have no idea how the Revenge trucks will perform and that makes me a little nervous. Thanks for what you do. I watched all of your early videos when you 1st got started. I took a long break after I found what I wanted. I have now come back to you as I have been shopping for a true Longboard. It is beautiful to see your progression of knowledge as well as the production quality of your videos. I absolutely love what you do. Thanks so much and any advice is appreciated!
I bought a 25 years old 60" x 11,5" longboard with 40" & 43" WB today (on eBay for 50€...) by accident 🤪
The trucks are a bit too wide, but CNC built.
Everything needs some maintanance, but I can't wait to ride this plank.
Probably with the Waterborne adapter, let's see.
How did you find this! I've been looking and don't see anything
@@osoperezoso2608 And I even found that in Germany... I was just really lucky. 🤪🤙
I cant find anything i really like online as far as deck shapes/styles. So ill probably just make my own. Was going to buy a YOW deck to fit on my CX trucks, but its much more expensive than just making it.
Just ordered one, thanks bruv
I mounted a pintail Mindless longboard with waterbone adapter, Paris trucks, and longboard Orangatang lonboard wheels with 75mm. 😅
@@dystopia2386 No 😀
Sounds like something I was aiming for. How wide are your paris trucks?
Great video as always! These long boards do look very fun, and it’s encouraging to hear that in some cases they are even easier to pump over a distance than regular surfskates - I imagined they would take more effort.
That's what I would have thought before trying them too. It's surprising.
What did you do to the back truck?
Really good video my god lol thank you for the knowledge!
Koastal Drifter II any good?
wow "The Boat" looks sick
Another fantastic video with great information on these incredibly long surf skates!
Awesome builds! Awesome video! Sad I can give it only one like.
had to watch this after your hackbrett video, but boy are these boards long haha
Been watching your channel for a few months now, great info! I just tried the waterborne surf and rail adapter on my Loaded Bhangra 48.5". I normally like the flex of the bamboo deck but found it too soft or "mushy" when pumping and trying to generate speed with the surf adapter. I feel like I can pump harder and faster with a shorter, more rigid deck.
Really? That hasn't been my experience at all. How much have you played with it? And do you experiment with standing on different places when you pump?
@@SurfskateLove I gave it a few sessions before switching the adapter back to my shorter cruiser deck. Going downhill it was a fun and surfy ride, but over flat or uphill for longer distances, it just seemed like the softer flex absorbed a lot of energy instead of transferring it. Yes, body position really makes a difference on the longer deck.
Jealous of your quiver!
I love this style of skating
It's really 'hard' in the first couple of minutes of watching this video to try to make my mind act mature enough to stop saying; "That's what she said.", or "Damn Steve, you're such a size queen."
You know, with all the talk about big flexy decks that are super fun to pump on.... I'm dead... I'm just too much of a child.
🤣🤣🤣