This chart you have used before really is THE best visual to explain "Net" metering. My Dad used to say: "You know when someone really understands something complicated because they can explain it to others that don't understand in such a simple way the listener Gets It!"
Xcel Energy in the Denver area just switched over to time-of-use. It seems to be a 1:1 return via 'solar credits', although there is very little information out there because the change just happened. I'll have to check my bill over the next couple of months to know for sure. I had a solar+battery system installed because this allows me to run during a power outage, and because we'll probably follow California with NEM 3.0 soon enough. Also, my graphs look like that until you add in the electric car. My nighttime energy use is often way higher than daytime. I expect lots of utility changes as electric cars become more common.
More batteries solves it , my next purchase 700+ah with a backup generator btw choose the automatic transfer switch but my book Solar Independent Utility Systems Manual preferred independence and I do cover grid tie Just know with a grid tie system if you choose no battery backup then if the grid fails so goes your power so I strongly recommend stand alone systems . Efficiency is a must I recommend the 2watt led 12 v light to start with add a 12 v on demand water pump for lights and running water ! Best wishes
Yes more batteries solves it as long as you have enough excess production. And yes we offer both grid tied for self consumption only and full home backup
@@Superiorsolarconsulting wondering if your systems are making the most for the least for a few examples 12 volt 2 watt led lights 12 volt on demand water pump 12 volt lp gas / electric fridge Then onto bigger loads like ac running under 500 watts off a 2000 watt pure sine wave with the Automatic bypass switch I found extremely useful It also being a pure sine wave is fantastic for 120 volt induction cooker that stopped all propane for cooking and was under $50 So I like dependable first cheaply overall However I see the only way to totally get free ac is using geothermal also fantastic for preheating in winter . Even have had fantastic success with the deep freezer that uses 50 watts while running and a 400 watt surge so got a designated pure sine wave 400 watt inverter that is used solely for that appliance. Have other small inverters for security that powers cameras . Been at this for about three decades now First disconnected before Y2k scare but I did it because my first 600$ electric bill So 18 to 50 using Solar power! Family laughed at me when I came home after a 2nd grade class I said mom dad why don’t we run our house off the sun had he listened to me he still would be living there instead lost it all. He lives in a apt I live on my property I own in a house I own with cars I own. Solar is like a big boost to your bank act . First system I had too many batteries not enough Solar Today it’s the opposite so Live and learn Trying to get the numbers down to better know exactly how to measure both incoming watts to store in the proper battery bank . Been a learning experience all along the way . If the sky’s are blue today I’ll be using ac off the sun along with everything else while conditions are perfect. Why I need more storage Hopefully your utilizing the best of all worlds Edison Tesla and Franklin taught us !
@@Superiorsolarconsulting Starting all systems is best to first assess with the Solar Pathfinder to see the yearly solar production from proposed location reading it at all four corners or solar array
Weird thing is in am in Texas with Entergy and I used to have 1:1. They performed a "Solar Audit" a few months ago and are NOT honoring the KWH that I am putting back into the grid. I have filed with PUC so well see where this goes.
Hi Julian, thank you so much for all the knowledge yoh share. I got several quotes for my solar system, trying to chose one base on the system components and review. I wonder if you would like to help me with this. I am base in UK. I could email you all the quotes if you interested. Best wishes, Ren
I'm in SoCal and I really want to go solar and make that investment for the long term. I did wait too long and missed the NEM 2.0 period and it's now gone. However, I still think it makes sense for the long term with battery. I don't want to go too expensive or with a company that's too cheap with terrible service. What company would you recommend in CA for good panels and battery that won't put me in debt for the rest of my life? =)
The main thing is that many customers use EnergySage portal and they just give you a quote with estimates and clients take those numbers for granted also they just measure numbers, not the irradiance and the solar exposure from the positioning of the panels In the roof of the client so when you "show interest" in the quote of an installer company they want to explain you (usually on a videochat) with a formal proposal of the installer company the ACTUAL details of your system ej: system size, type of equipment, annual production, amount of panels and microinverter (or inverters depending on the choosing of the customer) and THE ACTUAL PRICING...and what most of the time happens is that clients are stubborn and are not having it because pretty much the honest installers are overshadowed by the shady ones that lies to customers until they sign a contract then is downhill from there.
Now in California with the new Nem 3.0 taking place, for new solar owner, how is the metering system work? Are they using the net metering calculation daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, or even annually to determine how many Kwhr you owe or you sold?
Wow, under nem 3.0, my export rate is only 4 to 8 cents per kilowatt that is almost worth nothing. Installing a solar system under nem 3.0 is definitely a losing deal. Who is going to have a new solar system today?
@@f1176 solar is usually still cheaper because the cost per kWh is so high so what you are producing and using is where you win. You aren’t winning on selling back anymore. There are batteries that will essentially help lower your costs as well. Keep in mind the utility companies keep raising their rates. Solar is a long term play that will help reduce costs. You could also build a smaller system at about 80% with no battery, aka “Tier Shaving.” The smaller system will reduce costs for a portion of what you use. You have options.
These co's. Put product and labor into your home so they file a lein on your property. How do the mortgage people and insurance co's. Work with that. What if you sell your home before the system is paid off?
Some loans are transferable but I tell people most of the time that they should expect to pay the system off during a sale and enjoy the increased property value
I live in the Palm Springs area where summers are hot. Will 2 SunPower SunVault batteries of 13KWh each for a total of 26 kWh be enough to run the AC all night for a 1200 sqft home with a pool on NEM 3.0? Thank you!!
Between NEM 3.0 in California and solar companies like Sunrun ripping people off with their crooked solar leases, solar systems can be a financial nightmare for homeowners. If you stick with a company like Julian Solar and just buy the system, you end up paying about half the price.
Greats video. Thanks so much for the great info. I’m considering getting solar panel from freedom forever. They claim they did all the sub contract work for SunRun and Tesla. And giving out free Tesla powerwall. Not sure how legit they are
Freedom Forever was a sub contractor for Sunrun at one point. They are Nationwide. They only offer certain equipment and they may not be able to do what Julian can do for you if he has access to multiple installers with multiple equipment options. Never just go with one quote. With all this great content Julian is putting out he is giving you a generous peak around the curtain. He sounds like a genuine solar expert that will get you a great deal👍
The net metering change over a coffee at the capital how can one remove all 110 volt circuits for solar and batteries with a hot water tank for overproduction?
its not even worth it to go Solar in california since new law called NEM 3.0 which means if you buy power from your utility company at 0.20 cents after having solar if you sell them same amount of power they will only give you 0.05 cents so pretty a quarter on a dollar before april 2023 it used to be 1 to 1 ratio and loan being so high regardless of your good credit not worth it maybe in the future. and the solar companies sell you $20-25K worth of battery with only 10 year warranty sucky thing is if you really want solar in california right now you have to get battery to run your home in situation when there is no sun just so you can save some money. over all pretty crappy deal if you live in california no matter who you go with SunPower Tesla Sunrun ADT Solar etc.
Well first off, dealing with any of the 4 companies you listed is a mistake. Secondly, we are seeing payback periods in the 7-10 year range and that will drop as kWh rates continue to go up. It still very much makes sense.
@@Superiorsolarconsulting at this moment 7% APR and 10 year ROI which used to be 6 years Return on investment. What company do you recommend that is not gonna put extra panels to offset and make up for some of the NEM 3.0? Or wait 2 years till NEM 4.0?.
Sounds like you should’ve got Solar and got grandfathered in for 25 years with the old rates. Or did you miss out if so get some batteries. It’s just gonna get worse. Do you have a solution or you just basically talking about the problems?
With battery storage you can pretty much set your system to act as if it’s off grid but most solar systems with storage still utilize about 10-20% grid power and so true off grid is more difficult and usually requires another source of energy, like a generator
This chart you have used before really is THE best visual to explain "Net" metering. My Dad used to say: "You know when someone really understands something complicated because they can explain it to others that don't understand in such a simple way the listener Gets It!"
Thank you so much for the nice words
Xcel Energy in the Denver area just switched over to time-of-use. It seems to be a 1:1 return via 'solar credits', although there is very little information out there because the change just happened. I'll have to check my bill over the next couple of months to know for sure. I had a solar+battery system installed because this allows me to run during a power outage, and because we'll probably follow California with NEM 3.0 soon enough.
Also, my graphs look like that until you add in the electric car. My nighttime energy use is often way higher than daytime. I expect lots of utility changes as electric cars become more common.
More batteries solves it , my next purchase 700+ah with a backup generator btw choose the automatic transfer switch but my book Solar Independent Utility Systems Manual preferred independence and I do cover grid tie
Just know with a grid tie system if you choose no battery backup then if the grid fails so goes your power so
I strongly recommend stand alone systems .
Efficiency is a must I recommend the 2watt led 12 v light to start with add a 12 v on demand water pump for lights and running water !
Best wishes
Yes more batteries solves it as long as you have enough excess production. And yes we offer both grid tied for self consumption only and full home backup
@@Superiorsolarconsulting wondering if your systems are making the most for the least for a few examples
12 volt 2 watt led lights
12 volt on demand water pump
12 volt lp gas / electric fridge
Then onto bigger loads like ac running under 500 watts off a 2000 watt pure sine wave with the Automatic bypass switch I found extremely useful
It also being a pure sine wave is fantastic for 120 volt induction cooker that stopped all propane for cooking and was under $50
So I like dependable first cheaply overall
However I see the only way to totally get free ac is using geothermal also fantastic for preheating in winter .
Even have had fantastic success with the deep freezer that uses 50 watts while running and a 400 watt surge so got a designated pure sine wave 400 watt inverter that is used solely for that appliance.
Have other small inverters for security that powers cameras .
Been at this for about three decades now
First disconnected before Y2k scare but I did it because my first 600$ electric bill
So 18 to 50 using Solar power!
Family laughed at me when I came home after a 2nd grade class I said mom dad why don’t we run our house off the sun had he listened to me he still would be living there instead lost it all.
He lives in a apt I live on my property I own in a house I own with cars I own.
Solar is like a big boost to your bank act .
First system I had too many batteries not enough Solar
Today it’s the opposite so
Live and learn
Trying to get the numbers down to better know exactly how to measure both incoming watts to store in the proper battery bank .
Been a learning experience all along the way .
If the sky’s are blue today I’ll be using ac off the sun along with everything else while conditions are perfect. Why I need more storage
Hopefully your utilizing the best of all worlds Edison Tesla and Franklin taught us !
@@Superiorsolarconsulting Starting all systems is best to first assess with the Solar Pathfinder to see the yearly solar production from proposed location reading it at all four corners or solar array
Great video! Thanks for breaking this down.
Weird thing is in am in Texas with Entergy and I used to have 1:1. They performed a "Solar Audit" a few months ago and are NOT honoring the KWH that I am putting back into the grid. I have filed with PUC so well see where this goes.
They should be crediting you if that’s the deal. Good luck
I have an older home and I was wondering when it comes to the roof decking what thickness do you need to support solar? Are they heavy etc
Solar panels are light. The lags go directly into the rafters and so you shouldn’t have anything to worry about
Great summary. I'd like to work with you.
Feel free to text me 760-473-5878
I need help getting my Solar manual out there . I’m so shadow banned I’m surprised you responded lol
Rare
What are you thinking?
great video bro
Appreciate it
Hi Julian, thank you so much for all the knowledge yoh share. I got several quotes for my solar system, trying to chose one base on the system components and review. I wonder if you would like to help me with this. I am base in UK. I could email you all the quotes if you interested. Best wishes, Ren
I’m always happy to help! Send them over. Juliantoddborden.com@gmail.com
Will Prowse might be up there too 😂
Oh yeah Will is a DIY G. I offer a different service
Love from India
I'm in SoCal and I really want to go solar and make that investment for the long term. I did wait too long and missed the NEM 2.0 period and it's now gone. However, I still think it makes sense for the long term with battery. I don't want to go too expensive or with a company that's too cheap with terrible service. What company would you recommend in CA for good panels and battery that won't put me in debt for the rest of my life? =)
The main thing is that many customers use EnergySage portal and they just give you a quote with estimates and clients take those numbers for granted also they just measure numbers, not the irradiance and the solar exposure from the positioning of the panels In the roof of the client so when you "show interest" in the quote of an installer company they want to explain you (usually on a videochat) with a formal proposal of the installer company the ACTUAL details of your system ej: system size, type of equipment, annual production, amount of panels and microinverter (or inverters depending on the choosing of the customer) and THE ACTUAL PRICING...and what most of the time happens is that clients are stubborn and are not having it because pretty much the honest installers are overshadowed by the shady ones that lies to customers until they sign a contract then is downhill from there.
Call or text me. I work with several contractors that are all 5 star. (760) 473-5878
Now in California with the new Nem 3.0 taking place, for new solar owner, how is the metering system work? Are they using the net metering calculation daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, or even annually to determine how many Kwhr you owe or you sold?
The calculation is based on 6 second intervals and you’re billed at the end of each month now instead of annually
Meaning at the end of the month, if I used 100kw and my system generated 110kw, I will get a check for 10kw I sold for $0.75x10=$7.50
It’s Net Billing Tariff now for SDG&E, SCE, and PG&E. Your export rate with any of those companies is closer to .04 to .08 cents per kWh, not .75.
Wow, under nem 3.0, my export rate is only 4 to 8 cents per kilowatt that is almost worth nothing. Installing a solar system under nem 3.0 is definitely a losing deal. Who is going to have a new solar system today?
@@f1176 solar is usually still cheaper because the cost per kWh is so high so what you are producing and using is where you win. You aren’t winning on selling back anymore. There are batteries that will essentially help lower your costs as well. Keep in mind the utility companies keep raising their rates. Solar is a long term play that will help reduce costs. You could also build a smaller system at about 80% with no battery, aka “Tier Shaving.” The smaller system will reduce costs for a portion of what you use. You have options.
These co's. Put product and labor into your home so they file a lein on your property. How do the mortgage people and insurance co's. Work with that. What if you sell your home before the system is paid off?
Some loans are transferable but I tell people most of the time that they should expect to pay the system off during a sale and enjoy the increased property value
I live in the Palm Springs area where summers are hot. Will 2 SunPower SunVault batteries of 13KWh each for a total of 26 kWh be enough to run the AC all night for a 1200 sqft home with a pool on NEM 3.0? Thank you!!
Probably but we would need your usage data in order to confirm. I don’t recommend SunPower. They are still using iq7 micros
Between NEM 3.0 in California and solar companies like Sunrun ripping people off with their crooked solar leases, solar systems can be a financial nightmare for homeowners. If you stick with a company like Julian Solar and just buy the system, you end up paying about half the price.
Boom. Thank you
Greats video. Thanks so much for the great info. I’m considering getting solar panel from freedom forever. They claim they did all the sub contract work for SunRun and Tesla. And giving out free Tesla powerwall. Not sure how legit they are
I can provide you a more solid proposal with much better equipment. Give me a call or text me. 760-473-5878
Freedom Forever was a sub contractor for Sunrun at one point. They are Nationwide. They only offer certain equipment and they may not be able to do what Julian can do for you if he has access to multiple installers with multiple equipment options. Never just go with one quote. With all this great content Julian is putting out he is giving you a generous peak around the curtain. He sounds like a genuine solar expert that will get you a great deal👍
@@matth7469 thanks for the kind words. That is 100% why I’m here
The net metering change over a coffee at the capital how can one remove all 110 volt circuits for solar and batteries with a hot water tank for overproduction?
To be honest I’m not sure how this would be set up
its not even worth it to go Solar in california since new law called NEM 3.0 which means if you buy power from your utility company at 0.20 cents after having solar if you sell them same amount of power they will only give you 0.05 cents so pretty a quarter on a dollar before april 2023 it used to be 1 to 1 ratio and loan being so high regardless of your good credit not worth it maybe in the future. and the solar companies sell you $20-25K worth of battery with only 10 year warranty sucky thing is if you really want solar in california right now you have to get battery to run your home in situation when there is no sun just so you can save some money. over all pretty crappy deal if you live in california no matter who you go with SunPower Tesla Sunrun ADT Solar etc.
Well first off, dealing with any of the 4 companies you listed is a mistake. Secondly, we are seeing payback periods in the 7-10 year range and that will drop as kWh rates continue to go up. It still very much makes sense.
@@Superiorsolarconsulting at this moment 7% APR and 10 year ROI which used to be 6 years Return on investment. What company do you recommend that is not gonna put extra panels to offset and make up for some of the NEM 3.0? Or wait 2 years till NEM 4.0?.
Sounds like you should’ve got Solar and got grandfathered in for 25 years with the old rates.
Or did you miss out if so get some batteries. It’s just gonna get worse.
Do you have a solution or you just basically talking about the problems?
Most of Texas is NOT 1:1 net metering! The solar+battery is the only way to go here.
Yes most of the country no longer has 1:1
Off grid only....
With battery storage you can pretty much set your system to act as if it’s off grid but most solar systems with storage still utilize about 10-20% grid power and so true off grid is more difficult and usually requires another source of energy, like a generator
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