How to Determine Correct Leader Length
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In this video, Brian Flechsig of Mad River Outfitters discusses fly fishing leaders, and how to determine it's length. When your fly fishing leader should be shorter or when it should be longer!
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Thank you for FINALLY making it very clear that the leader includes the butt section AND the tippet. I’ve been confused about this for a fair amount of time. This is really helpful.
Thanks for watching and happy to help.
I've watched hours of Mad River. Some of the best and down to earth advice I've found. I really appreciate this guy. I'm 39 and recently got into to fly fishing and this has got me in the door. Although I've been an avid fisherman my entire life. But this is one of my favorite styles.
Thanks for being here.
Exactly the same here. Priceless information. I, too, started around 40, and 4 years later, I'm able to do things I otherwise wouldn't simply by watching these videos. Thanks Brian!
This was so informative. This solves a problem I have been having by answering a question I didn't know to ask.
Thanks for watching and happy to help!
I cant believe how much im learning every day from you guys. I've started for 1 year ago and was ready to give up because of tangled lines, tippets etc. Im now owning 3 rods and going to fish my whole vacation away
Happy to help and thanks so much for watching. Stay tuned!
Lots of U.K. 🇬🇧 fly fishing channels are obsessed with 18-20 feet, non tapered leaders to fish 3-4 flies a cast. I find this a challenge, so really appreciate this particular video.
Thanks for being here and happy to help.
The authority on leaders. Can’t wait until the book comes out. 👊🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for watching and please stay tuned.
Thank you very much for this great lesson !!! Best regards from Iceland :)
@@sigurdurbaldvin2145 Thanks for being here!
I started fishing for real for the first time in my life last year, straight to a fly rod. I love all the info that's out there, but I quickly decided to get a quality spinning rod, to bypass all the technical noise while I took a few months to really learn my local waters first. After 9 months of practice, I got the fly rod back out this week. The basics I learned on my own through observing fish and trying different techniques absolutely helped build me up, to where I'm ready to devour all of the fly fishing content now. And most importantly, I see much more clearly now how down to earth and sensible your approach is. Used to romp around over in your neck of the woods when I went to Ohio State a long time ago. I like CO a lot better now though 😅
Thanks so much for watching.
He’s serious about calling in questions. I called about airline carry-on rules for my 4-pc Orvis rods and they were absolutely wonderful. The airline website said no-go for carry-on, but MadRiver said all is well (for domestic flights). And so we flew with 3 fly rod tubes as part of our carry-on luggage with NO problems. The fly rod cases even generated a few good conversations with fellow travelers. So thank YOU MadRiver Outfitters - for always being awesome and making my son and me cast (and sail through the airports) like butter.🤓
Thanks for checking with us. We answer all e-mails and of course answer all phone calls. "Customer service is what we do. Fly Fishing is what we love and sell."
Such a fantastic channel! I’ve learned more from your videos than anywhere else, thank you for all your hard work, and all the best from the far northern highlands of Scotland. I’m only sorry I can’t visit your store to repay you for your efforts here.
Thanks for being here and please stay tuned.
Brian, I have to say... this is one of the best videos I've seen on leaders and the breakdown of their usage.
I think you (sort of) know me; I typically only chase smallies, wipers and bluegill. But to expose me... because of the species I chase, and the size of flies I use (with the exception of bluegill), I learned through experience better than 50 years ago that a shorter leader was much easier to use through casting, again, depending on flies size, the desired presentation and a number of other considerations.
One could find a happy medium with an in the middle outfit, but there is no one tippet, one leader, one fly line, one fly rod or one real that fits all.
Thank you for confirming what I have thought for a very long time.
Thanks for watching.
I’ve been struggling throwing anything but the lightest dry flys. This explains what I’m doing wrong. Thanks!
Thanks for watching and happy to help.
Probably some of the best advice I have ever heard about fly fishing. Keep up the outstanding work 👏 👌 👍
Thanks for watching. As long as folks keep supporting the shop, we’ll keep making videos.
Too bad you guys are not covering the Pacific Northwest, I guess that's where I'll chime in hahaha!
The absence of bs is refreshing. Clear and substantiated info. Congrats and thanks!
Thanks so much for watching.
I write to simply thank Brain and MRO for quality videos. I met Brian in Gardiner Montana at lunch. He's a wonderful ambassador for our sport. His knowledge and IQ are matched by his EQ, a nice trait to have.
Thanks so much for watching. Will pass along to him and he will surely appreciate. Stay tuned.
Thanks for these great videos. They are very informative to both the beginner and more advanced fisherman. I would never classify myself as advanced because the more I learn, the more I realize I don’t know. These instructional videos have caused me to re-think many bad habits that I have adopted for unknown reasons over the years.
Thanks so much for watching.
Great information and helpful , also really like the honesty of this channel…. Probably the only one that tells you that you don’t always need the top of the range expensive equipment
Thanks for watching.
I really enjoy doing business with Mad River and Brian. Needed my last order quick and Brian took care of me. Thanks Brian! Enjoy your videos too. Gives me a good feeling to support a small American company and seeing them do well.
Thanks so much for the kind words and the support. We really appreciate that.
Outstanding! I have always shortened my leader/tippet build for bass flys only because it felt like it drove my fly to location better. This helps me understand the logic I was unaware of.
Thanks for watching.
Thank you Brian & Mad River Outfitters. Great information.
Thanks for watching. Much appreciated.
I would like to give you a thanks "Mad River Outfitters" im going to walmart today to get me a cortland 8ft 4 piece 5/6 fishing pole and i was about to get it but i herd of leaders so i came to you to learn about this thank you so much im 13 years old and i got bored using bait casters and spinning rods for fishing fixen to go up to smokey bear mountains and try it out im probaly gonna go to my pond with stocked bream and bass and test it out thank you so much for the tips i have been researching for over 3 days now.
Thanks for watching and feel free to contact us at the shop if you have any questions.
I’ve been a long time salmon fishermen that didn’t require this level of knowledge around leader. It was pretty straight forward stuff. But I’m going my first real trout fishing in Patagonia in a month and I’ve found these videos so helpful. I will be ready to go and will absolutely be patronizing Mad River A LOT going forward thanks to all their guidance. Excellent channel and thoughtful presentation.
Thanks so much for being here and thanks for the support. We greatly appreciate it.
Answerd my question I was having. These video series help so much and it's nice to be able to watch again and again to refresh. Really helpful for me as a beginner fly guy. Mad river outfitters is my go to fly shop and I'm more than happy to support them. Thanks Brian and all your crew!!👍
Thanks so much for watching and especially for the support! As long as folks keep supporting the shop, we'll keep making videos!!!
This is the best fly fishing channel on RUclips, hands down! Thank you for the information you guys put out it seems to be the questions I want to ask that you already answered!
Thanks so much for being here.
I love your fly fishing channel great info!
Thanks Brian for the good advice. I've gotten similar advice from my local fly shop ,but not about how the pre- packaged leaders have tippet already on them, so thanks helping me not double tippet my leader.
P.S I'm very new to the sport so thanks for all the advice.
Thanks for watching. Happy to help and always feel free to call the shop with questions.
This is some great info. I have had to learn this the hard way by getting tangling loops while trying to cast a big plug of twine on my practice rig. Shorter leader/tippet makes that air resistant "fly" stay in control a lot better. We are still waiting on that book.
Thanks for watching. The book is coming. Stay tuned.
@@Madriveroutfitters Yep, I'll echo 'skotrod's' comment, "Waiting on that book..." 🤞
These videos are honestly some of the most helpful videos out there.
Thanks for watching.
Whoever edits these videos is hilarious and brilliant.
Thanks for watching.
Great episode! I recently had a friend tell me how he made up his 6’ leaders for redfish. I’m still a neophyte to fly fishing, so I didn’t press him on the short length. I was sidetracked by the kayak he was fishing out of. Redfish out of a kayak is what is known as a Cajun Sleigh-ride here in south Louisiana. Thanks for making it easy for me! Keep up the great work.
Thanks for being here.
Greetings from the Emerald Isle,of Ireland,🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪,just getting back into flyfishing, love your videos, great info,and very well explained,👍👍
Thanks for watching and please stay tuned.
Thanks a million for the videos I'm just new to this just got a fly rod and reel and flys on Wednesday so I need to keep listening in to understand more from Ireland🇮🇪😊
Stay tuned and stay in touch. Let us know if we can help!
@@Madriveroutfitters as I say I no noting about the line that on the reel is it OK to use and what else will I put on it to start?
Brian,
You are the leader leader! Thank you!
Good one! Thanks for watching.
MRO keeping it real, as always. Great job with the videos and the editing guys. Thumbs up!
Thanks for watching.
Phenomenal video as always. I often wondered why the Bass leaders I buy are 9’ Long. They would never turn over a heavy Clouser Minnow or Wooly Bugger. Every cast the flys would collapse at about the last 3’ of the leader so I trimmed about 3’ off and it was a night and day difference! As always thank you for the knowledge!
Thanks for watching and happy to help.
Thank you so much for this from the UK. Probably one of the most important videos a new fly fisher needs to watch. Oh, and I've been doing this for 30 years but I will be changing my approach somewhat when I'm next out.
Thanks so much for being here.
Thanks so much for taking the time to put out such valuable content. I watched all your videos and your my go to channel for advice. Best wishes from 🇬🇧
Thanks so much for watching!!!!!
I like that. Very good frame of reference.
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Thanks for this. I was recently using 7 ft leaders on my full sinking lines. This definitely cleared it up for me.
Thanks for watching and happy to help!
Thank you. First ever trout fishing was last year and I got hooked. I’m going again this fall and am very excited. I’m learning a lot from your videos. Thank you for sharing and teaching!
Thanks for being here!
This is so valuable to me. I'm brand new to fly fishing and you are setting me on the right path. Dude you rock.
Thanks for watching. Happy to help and please stay tuned.
Brian says it the best!!! Thank you for everything you do and say!
Thanks for being here.
Hands down best advice I've ever heard about leaders. When I learned to build my own leaders I started playing with different leader lengths and weights and right away I could notice better casting on my streamers when I went heavier and shorter. And dry flies cast a lot more nicely when you have a good long (but not too long) gradual taper down to the fly. I think tapered leaders a great for first timers, but you should learn to build leaders from the start. Building leaders is a lot easier than people might think. And that will teach you more about the physics behind all of this and how to properly cast than just mindlessly casting and spending your whole day undoing tangled tippets.
Thanks for watching. When you build your own leader though, it is still a "tapered" leader. Just to clarify so some don't get confused by that.
@@Madriveroutfitters ah thanks, meant to say pre-made leaders.
Thanks for the info on using a shorter leader on my sink tip fly line! My delivery with a heavy crawdad pattern was an absolute disaster even with a 0x leader! Thanks Brian!
Thanks for watching. Stay tuned.......
I am new to fly fishing and find your video super helpful.
Thanks so much for watching. Happy to help.
No one has ever explained this to me.
Agree with what you said about the industry.
Thanks for being here!
Thank you for explaining why. I can now remember it because it's logical 👍
Thanks for watching!
100% correct. The most important piece of the entire setup. I would even emphasize that for spey casting (both SH or DH) the leader length and construction is critical.
Critical! Thanks for backing us up here.
@@Madriveroutfitters Appreciate your sharing of knowledge and experience rather than marketing buzz 🙏 One of the best fly fishing channels I've come across.
Thanks for sharing your expertise. I haven't been fly fishing in many years and your tutorials are a perfect refresher.
Thanks for watching.
Absolutely brilliant tutorial, many thanks to Brian and crew!
Thanks for watching.
Thank you so much Brian & Mad River team! This Video was very insightful & helpful
Thanks for watching and happy to help.
Brian what to say,awesome information & no holds bared call,have been fly fishing a long time (35 + years) & your information & knowledge still teaches this ol dog new tricks,I use mostly 7 1/2 ' leader with an extra 2' of tippet works for me,agree about leaders you can't fish a # 18 dry with the same tippet you'd throw a # 6 streamer,keep it up my friend,tight lines & bent rods
Thanks for watching. Much appreciated.
Thank you so much. This helped tremendously. I’m having a problem switching to bigger flies and I think you solved the problem for me
Thanks for watching and always feel free to call the shop with questions.
Great information! Fly fishing can not be taken lightly. I am just getting into it. Tons of variables that needs to be considered. And generally speaking it is not a cheap sport to get into. I suggest to everyone, take your time and do your research. Then apply what you have learned.
Thanks for being here and please stay tuned.
Great video! Answered all the questions I had about lieder length.
Thanks for watching.
Vince would have loved this particular video.
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I like the echo of Brian’s readers
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Thank you, Brian, leaders and leader formulas are great but only if you know what you are casting. I had a guy that was fishing close to me a few years ago with an articulated musky fly that was about to through his gear in the water. The fly was a or similar to a quarter chicken dinner. the leader was a manufactured 9' tapered down to 5X or 4X. Saw the struggle and just by chance had a spare homemade fluro 80 lb. - 50 lb. 4 1/2 ' leader. The guy was so happy after the change he is now dedicated to musky on the fly and nothing else. Oh and the rod and gear was bought as a 9-10 wgt package from Sail or Cabelas, they did not even sell him a pike, musky, or predator leader.
As Brian always says….your leader is your second most important piece of gear. Thanks for watching.
Hey guys I really appreciate all the tips and advice you all give on RUclips and at the shop phone/emails. I have a really quick and hopefully easy to answer question on leaders for bass fishing with my 5wt recon rod. I think you said the big nasty leaders was really good for turning over some of the bigger and more wind resistant flies (up to about a size 6ish). Thank you for all the pointers that you give.
Thanks for watching. Feel free to call the shop with your questions and they will be happy to help.
Thanks for the info. Learning a lot just watching the videos and saving the trial and error method.
Thanks for watching.
This was literally the video thats explained everything for me, amazing info guys once again
Happy to help and thanks for watching.
Your info is top notch. You should do a video on double nymphing rigs
Thanks for watching.
I dont id still be intrested in fly fishing if it wasnt for MRO. I try to make a pilgrimage ride there once a year from Arkansas. I watch your videos and obviously, learned so much. Thank you
Thanks back to you. We really appreciate your words.
Call Mad River Outfitters. They really do help out.
Thanks! Customer Service is what we do for a living.
Thank You, Brian and Mad River Outfitters Crew.. Always great information, wish i found this video years ago when i started out.
Thanks for watching.
I am great full to have found Madriver.
New to the sport myself, and your videos have been great.
I’m in NJ and you have quickly become my go to fly shop.
PS: I greatly appreciate the speed at which you send out orders. 🤟
Thanks for watching and thanks for the support.
Thank you so much, Brian, for all the advice. I am new to the sport and have learnt a lot in a short space of time, keep up the good content.
I like the idea of having a constant butt section of leader all year round, making sense to me. 🇬🇧
Thanks for watching.
Great! Very simple clarification of something I have messed up lots of times! :)
Thanks for watching!
this is what answered my question thanks .. i will email just to make sure i order the right hooks and weight eyes for my needs... thank you.. i will place my orders when i get a email back from you or your staff workers....
Thanks for being here and they will be happy to help.
Thank you!
This helped me out tremendously understanding how to set up now.
I’m guilty of double tipping since I had no idea it was already built in.
Thanks for watching and happy to help. Stay tuned.
very nice explanation !!
Thanks for watching.
Great video. One could add that longer leaders are also required for the euronymphing technique. Best regards.
Thanks for watching. Not sure Brian knows much about that stuff though.....he's American.
@@Madriveroutfitters Thank you for your response. I understand that the euronymphing technique (sometimes also called Czech nymphing) is making inroads in the US too because it is highly effective. It's similar the the traditional "pêche au toc" in France, but with a flyrod. I'm sure you will come across it at some stage. I take this opportunity to thank you for your great and honest work in your videos. Best wishes. Michael
@@michaelmartin9572 Thanks. The shop is very versed as they sell the gear. Just don’t think Brian is up to speed.
Great video. You have such a talent for breaking things down to the fundamentals in clear way! As for industry emphases, look at the price scale: rod (hundreds of dollars) > reel (somewhat fewer hundreds of dollars) > line ($50-100) > leader ( $6-7) > fly ($1-2). I imagine that the decline in profit margin along this descending price progression is even steeper. Looks a lot like the scale of marketing expenditures from greatest to least! It's just business. I really appreciate how you are prioritizing the elements of fly fishing in terms of fishing effectiveness, rather than profitability. I really look forward to hearing your thoughts on furled leaders and how to fish them. Subscribed!!
Thanks so much for being here and please stay tuned.
Great video, Brian. I appreciate the expert advice! BTW, would like an entomology video.
Thanks for watching. The entomology series is coming this Fall. Stay tuned.
Great video as always. Do you guys have a video on making your own leaders? I’ve heard you talk about it but I’ve never learned the correct way to do it.
Thanks and Yes, we have quite a few scattered throughout the channel. You can also call or e-mail the shop anytime with specific questions.
Good explanation!! Great! ❤️
Thanks for watching.
I've picked up a couple of the thread furled leaders that Brian's holding up at 7:00 for my lighter weight rods and have been amazed at the difference from regular knotless leaders.
Soak them in liquid floatant, add 12"-18" of tippet, and off you go.
And here I was thinking I was getting better at casting. 😪
Thanks for watching.
Thanks, great content. always enjoy learning from u guys.
Thanks for watching and happy to help.
Your awesome man. I love your channel all the way from newzealand👍
Thanks for watching.
very helpful thanks.
Thanks for watching.
Great educational video. Thanks!
Thanks so much for watching.
Thank you so much!!!
Thanks for watching.
Quality content. Well done.
Thanks for being here.
Make you're own leader I highly recommend it way cheaper too and I use the slim beauty knot to connect all my sections keeps the leader nice and straight great for the trout I fish for here in Australia 👌
Thanks for watching.
I just bought a 7.6ft rod and a reel from two different fishing shops. One of them told me to use the whole 9ft leader, but the second one told me that I could cut off 15 cm. from each end of the leader and then attach it to the fly line. For now I am using the whole 9ft leader.
Give the shop a call or an email if they can help. They know leaders.
Good video Brian!
Thanks for watching.
Great stuff! That really makes sense.
Thanks for watching.
I just wing it usually aim for around rod length and it's never failed me.
...Of course I never catch fish, but the leaders look great in the air.
That's a good place to hang out....except fo the no fish part.
Excellent advice, I am just getting startednd have found that the heavy bass flies I am using are hard to handle with a rod length leader. I have been using 6 lb Mono to make my leaders and found a 6 foot leader I can handle with the big Craw flies.
Thanks for watching.
Meanwhile, I'm casting #8 clousers and #4 zonkers 60ft on my 4wt with janky leaders. NGL though, it isn't pretty and I believe this video is going to help me a lot.
Thanks for watching.
Great tips!
Thanks for watching.
As a inshore saltwater angler, I can tell you that leader line is super important! It may not be the same in fly fishing, but it you try to use leader line that is too conspicuous to your targeted fish, then you won't catch that fish... WHY would it be different in fly fishing, in its regard?
Thanks for watching.
Y'all should start a podcast
Thanks but we can’t keep up with a RUclips channel.
This is my idea of the perfect fishing pack. The older I get, the less I want to carry and I want to carry it on my back rather than my front. All I want is something light weight to hold a water bottle, something the munch on, a lightweight rain jacket, eccentual tools and a fly box. All with easy access, when I need it. This fits that bill perfectly.
Thanks for watching. Not exactly sure as to what pack you are talking about but.......
@@Madriveroutfitters Simms Tributary Sling Pack in your video. I've been on the hunt for years. This is the one I've been waiting for.
@@matokuwapi Gotcha. Just didn’t see any sling pack in this video.
@@Madriveroutfitters Oh CRAP!! NO WONDER!! My Bad. RUclips was too fast for me. ... It was in the video I was watching before this one. My bad. It was this one. ruclips.net/video/pDOv9AdxwO8/видео.html
BOOK!
We agree! Book, book, book, book........etc.
When is the book, end of the line, coming out?
We are hoping he gets it out this Fall. Stay tuned.
@@Madriveroutfitters I’ve been asking via email and this is the first time I’ve heard about this!
These folks are LEADER LEADERS!
Thanks for being here. Certainly a main topic around the shop…..every day.
Good Stuff!
Thanks for watching.
Hey guys from florida
Hey! Thanks for being here.
Geees!! I am learoso much. Thanks.
Thanks for watching.
It’s almost like you guys know exactly what I need lol
Thanks for watching.