Trying to FIX an eBay job lot of FAULTY Games Consoles & Controllers
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Hi, this video is to show basic fault finding skills on a box of faulty gaming equipment purchased on eBay. The box cost £63 ($83). The idea of the video is to show that many people throw away faulty equipment when it can easily be fixed by using common sense.
Sometimes it is too hard to fix something but on many occasions you can easily fix various different faults on all sort of different equipment by using simple fault finding.
In the video you will see that I use very basic cheap tools to try and find out what is wrong with each item.
The time stamps for the different parts are listed below:
5:58 - The BITT-BOY
14:15 - Retron 5
22:00 - NES Controllers x3
23:21 - Retro-Bit Generation x2
34:22 - Classic Controllers x2 (Atari)
35:31 - Handheld NES/SNES
Many thanks Vince. Хобби
Quick tip - when swapping out a power supply you need to confirm the polarity matches in addition to the voltage and amp-age. The diagram on the back shows whether the pin or the shell are positive / negative. Getting it wrong can affect the internal components.
yea and if you have 2 of the exact barriel cables you can modify one with reverse polarity
Great vid. You got a real bargain there. I repaired mobile phones but because so many people repair them, it drives up the price of broken phones to the point where its not economical. Also, many sellers are not honest when explaining faults, they claim ignorance, when in reality they have already tried to fix it and often made it worse.
where it all began, i’ve seen just about every trying to fix video uve made, and i somehow never saw the first one (i started watching in late 2017 early 2018ish cuz i was a new switch owner) love the vids and love to see how far uve gone knowledge wise
Love watching your videos vince, have been binged watching for a few months now, long story but you have helped take my mind off other things going in my life. Wish you much success for 2020, you seem a really good guy
Excellent video. I’ve fixed various electronics that I’ve purchased from car boot sales. Most of the problems are corroded battery terminals. Some were given to me free because the sellers didn’t want to bring back home again.
I agree with you about trying to fix thing your self I teach my kid this all the time ! We are getting to the point ware no one can Chang a tire it's call tripel A . I ha e been fix and brakeing thing my hole life and I'm not scared it's knowing when to stop and say I can't do this ! I rebuilt my transmission in my garage for a fraction of what a shop would charge and it was easier than I thought it was going to be and the first time I drove it was one of the best feeling ever . Keep up the great work Vince
I was always taught that you could take apart or break any of your own toys if you wanted. The catch was if you couldn't fix it you weren't getting any help and definitely no replacements. That way I started learning how to fix stuff.
Great video, The Retron 5 was a cool score. A box of retro electronics for 80 bucks is a steal. You could probably find a replacement screen and everything in the box would be working! Keep the content coming!
Worth mentioning when looking for a power supply to test, that some have the positive pin in the centre of the connector, and some are negative centre. There's usually a diagram showing you which is which.
This stuff gets addictive next thing you know you have tons of consoles that you are "in process of fixing"
On watching this video Vince, You used a DC Power supply, but in doing so you omitted to point out crucial Nay vital information,
Information such as DC Power packs do have a polarity at the output jack to them, Some are positive female whilst others are Negative female, yeah-yeah.. Most peeps would know to be wary of this polarity and thus match the polarity 1st and foremost, then the Voltage 2nd, and then most importantly the Current the replacement power pack needs to supply.
Nothing worse than connecting a power pack with the reverse polarity or wrong voltage by being to high or the current is over the Top thus destroying the device that in fact needs very little current, but it may be that the power supply cant provide enough current and thus go up in smoke..
Regarding the Retrobit -
as others have mentioned I would :-
1. Note the polarity of the AC adapter
2. Note the output current matches that of the device e.g. AC/DC
3. Check that the voltage on the AC adapter matches the requirements on the units sticker (where available)
The popped capacitor was probably caused by using the wrong adapter in the first place e.g. 8V into a system designed to take 5V. Personally I would have changed the capacitor, 2 minute job and easier than soldering the micro USB adapter on to the board that you did earlier.
Just a quick tip, you must also check with your meter that the power supplies have the same polarity i.e. the central part of the power connector could be negative or positive. Also get some flux it will make soldering a lot easier.
I’m sure he knows that, and I know of no multimeter that can be used to immediately determine that.
@@elephystry late reply if the power shows - its reversed
You sir are the definition of Occam's razor. I wish we all had your sense of troubleshooting.
Retron 5: the Golden Axe game cartridge wasn't plugged in properly when you first switched it on - which is why you received the error!.. good job and nice fix though!!!
Just a friendly tip when reading differnt voltage adaptors. Makes sure the polarity is the the same as the one required. Check what the centre tip ism negative or positive. Otherwise you'll hopefully just blow a fuse other wise maybe a capacitor or resistor.
Really enjoyed this video , recently just moved in to a new property and in a shed I found a game cube of which I was going to purchase one anyways , so win win . It does not have any cables , power lead or controller . So this video in short has I spired me to look for the correct parts needed and see if I can get it up and running .
Just subbed and notified for when you upload new videos keep up the good work
I'm completely taken aback that I've not heard of this channel sooner. You sir have definitely earned my sub, thank you for your content.
I didn't know these consoles existed! So tempted to buy the Retro 5. Better still will chk eBay for a faulty one and see if I can fix it! Nice one Vince.
Vince! You keeping going on about how long the videos are...don’t worry about it mate I’m sure ppl do and I love your channel I have learnt a lot from you and it does not matter how long you go on for, keep it up mate. 👍🏻
I'd love to see more videos of you buying lots of broken stuff (not necessarily game stuff, the more outlandish, the better imo) off of eBay or something and then going through repairing them. Perhaps using a different technique or skill each time?
Great video as always, greatly appreciate the work you've put into this! :D
Thank you, a few viewers have said similar things. Maybe I will get more stuff and video it as I love doing stuff like this. The problem is the videos end up being really long so I worry that it will be boring to view, but the majority of comments so far on this video have been positive which has really surprised me :-)
I'm actually quite fond of the video length. It gave me a whole hour to learn more about the physical aspects of technology, which has interested me for a while. What ever you decide to do, I'm looking forward to it! :)
Thank you and thanks for the feedback :-)
Fantastic video mate! You take a nice & steady methodical approach, and use basic common sense to solve any problems.
Looking forward to more of the same/similar types of “fix it” videos in the future 👍🏼
I don't know if anyone has told you this. But that problem at the end is almost certainly a bad hotbar connection inside the tft. You'd have to carefully open up the display and apply some heat and presure where it connects. It's quite fiddly and little tricky but it generally works out well. I'm also quite certain I've seen that exact display module before, maybe worth googling it's part number.
Thanks for the info :-)
I would also add to the power supply bit that you need to check polarity as some might have positive outer and reversing polarities is not a good thing. Also, some power supplies may be AC output but show the same voltage, again not a good thing.
My main point was on the unit that he went into his garage to get one with the same type of plug. he found a old psu. So I was pointing when using a totally different adaper you find not only check voltage but the plug is wired the same way. Since this was a beginners tutorial they might not check polariy or not know its relevence.
mrfoameruk he also never seemingly checked the base unit for their input needs. Most things have them listed, that would immediately shown that the 8v plug was way off. It will also show polarity for barrel adapters if you look close at the diagrams.
Used a incorrect psu on a old router ,forgot had bought from USA ,caused a bang and bit of smoke 😀.glad it only cost 12gbp ..
And one more inportant thing , check if its AC or DC The cap was blown by AC voltage .
Basic troubleshooting tips are amazing, Vince, thanks for the tips on not getting yourself frustrated and just keep trying.
You should reflow the solder on the usb connector of that gameboy-looking device with your reflow station :)
In the case of the retron, you should always check polarity of the power adapters. Also the devices should have a lable stating which voltage they require. Also, that capacitor is probably connected to the RCA ports.
Found your channel today, really love the fix vids, i like fixing things too!
The capacitor of the retrobit was blown due to using a wrong AC adaptor :)
Agreed, the blown cap indicates that the wrong adapter had either been supplied or substituted. It was probably a 6.3V electrolytic capacitor, so sticking more than 8V would definitely make it go bang!
Actually, I'm more surprised that the chipset seems to have some kind of overvoltage protection, as cheap Chinese one-hung-low junk like this tends to cut corners in that area.
I'd recommend to at least remove the blown capacitor and bridge the connection, since it seems to work without it too. A capacitor that poped can't do anything anymore. And wow, I've never seen a capacitor that poped into a spiral *lol* That damaged thing doesn't provide a proper electrical connection anymore. I'm surprised that it does at all. Leaving that thing in probably isn't safe *lol*
dont bridge it
It should be fine to bridge the capacitor as it was the same voltage, pretty much, as the input which should also have a capacitor to keep the flow of currant steady, had it been a significantly higher value, or the old transformer style plug, id not recommend it
@@phonotical what do u mean by bridging??
that golden axe gameplay got me feeling nostalgic
I remember a while back I bought a pink DSi for about $10 USD it was sold as broken with the parental lock on it also with a damaged/scratched up shell. But I got a good deal out of it cause I did a quick google search on how to remove the parietal lock and it took me about 5 min to fix it.
Very nice grab! I had good luck with a PS4 that an eBay seller got in a Walmart returns lot. They said they tested it and it was for sale for parts only. I was able to fix it by updating the firmware with a usb in safe mode and getting a new controller. The controller bit was bizarre though, the one that came with it refused to talk to the ps4 until I'd gotten it to respond to the new one. That PS4 cost me about $100 (plus $35 for a used controller) and is currently my most used console.
Wow, they must be like the only person to ever use parental lock, lol.
i fucking love the methodical way you take everything apart and fix it, liked and subscribed!
Interesting video, the only thing I would recommend for new people trying this is to also to use some flux, it will help the solder flow, in the Bitt-Boy's case it would have made it so he could have even with a large tip just heat the USB Jack's pins even with the larger tip and it would have been an even more solid connection. Keep up the videos mate, this im sure will help new people learning the basics!
Oh and also its worth mentioning that the polarity of the power supply should be checked before using it too :)
Why are these videos so addicting and interesting
oh wow i was genuinely considering buying the exact same lot, i decided against it as I wasn't as confidant about fixing the retron 5
That's a bad miss.
@The SNES Man You don't need to ask permission to use free software.
@@Puremindgames If you want to use it in a commercial product, you most likely have to ask. But it all depends on the license under which the free software was published. And in this case, commercial use was not permitted.
Superb video Vince! Like all your stuff but this time you've surpassed yourself! :-)
I can't stop watching your videos
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"60 pound for postage, and 3 pound for delivery" lol.
Ha, well spotted. I watched this back twice after editing and I didn't spot that :-)
@@Mymatevince what key words do you use on ebay? I want to fix stuff please reply
I don't know if you have one already, buy you can order a decent soldering iron from AliExpress for about 40 quid. The new type irons with the elements in the tips. Much better heat transfer. Quicko is the brand name of the decent ones which are like clones of the Hakko brand ones. Keep up the great work, love watching this stuff :)
why do i find these videos so interesting??? dammit you've earned a sub.
The console was most definitely used with the wrong power supply, doesn't necessarily mean it came from the factory like that. I would definitely recommend replacing the capacitor and using a 5v power supply, the extra 3.6v from the 8.6v power supply is what popped the capacitor. Could of also suffered reverse polarity. Great video really enjoy repair videos.
Thanks for sharing :-)
Watched it all the way through. You speak as if you know nothing when you are actually a smart guy. Very pleasant to watch. It inspires me to do the same. Keep up the great content :D
1942 was a really fun game, cool vid and keep it up
You rock man! Awesome vids, I love your channel! Inspiring for sure.
"I'm no expert" Seem pretty switched on to me mate :)
Wow killer instinct .... i loved that game when i was a kid ... the finish moves required a huge button combo though ...you could possibly get your 60 back for just that game alone
i repaired my gamecube memory card with a cutip and alcohol
So you cleaned it. Wowee.
Really Interesting and profitable project. Nice troubleshooting and repair.
Those lines on that portable snes is simaler to what happens with some gameboy screens. The horizontal lines are harder to fix than vertical lines.
Just saying but I think that retrobit console was supplied with wrong power adapter.... And when it was connected the capacitor popped and no one touched it. Now my guess is that the rca jacks wont work.
I didn't think of that, it could well have been packed with the wrong adapter for it. Maybe in the factory they have various different adapters for different systems and some got mixed up before it was spotted :-)
Exactly...
Yes, I would try the 5V adapter on it after changing the capacitor, which is a simple swap.
Not strange at all that it refuses to operate with that excess of voltage, considering that maybe the system is even run at 3.3v (quite usual in System On a Chip emulators). The internal regulator (if fitted) would maybe block that for it's own protection. I won't leave the capacitor unreplaced. Maybe it was placed in the analog video output for smoothing purposes, so you could expect bad analog A/V output until it is fixed.
Anyway, clear explanations and an excellent hands on approach to fixing things. Looking forward to your next video
If the 8 volt adapter is ac and the 5 volt is dc then you got the explanation for the blown capacitor. ac voltage to an electolytic capacitor will blow it up. As simple as that.
I know this is late but you should keep the Retron 5. Great console.
Careful with those USB power bricks. They don't always output what they advertise! I measured my own once and found one of them, an OEM phone charger, very out of spec (close to 7v IIRC) although labelled at 5v. I've heard chargers like these have been breaking controllers that can't tolerate the voltage difference (possibly from one of your future videos!). Love the repair videos. Cheers!
Exellent video. I think u should make a new series repairing things
I agree 👍🏽
It is
For those micro usb ports a small heat gun makes the job easy as pie, I replaced a butchered micro usb port on my nephew's tablet and it was very easy, just put some flux, heat, pull with tweezers, touch up the pads with a little solder with the soldering iron, align the new port and heat up again, easy peazy!
Thanks for the tips :-)
You're welcome :)
Just watched the first one minute when you mentioned common sense that totally gets rid of anyone under the age of 19 these days so carry on and anyone over the age of 30 will be fine listening and learning carry on with the good work mate
The problem with that screen is that the ribbon that connects to the actual screen is not making contact. Could likely be fixed by putting pressure against the side of the screen where it makes contact with the ribbon, likely the left or right side of the screen.
I really like your videos mate....especially the ones where you are fixing things, I’ve watched all of them so could you please make some more soon lol. Thank you
Just wanted to give some tips for those who haven't soldered before and would like to try this. First, a cheap soldering iron is okay, but get some decent solder. Also, you can use a moist sponge to clean the tip of the iron. And finally, pre-coat the iron with a little solder before you try applying any to the desired location; the solder will melt much quicker.
For a lot of companies who move a whole lot of product, even trying to return an RMA product doesn't make sense. I remember ordering a used 1000w EVGA power supply on eBay and it did not work. The seller asked me to smash it to an unrepairable state then they would send a refund. I guess not even the cost of giving me a return shipping label was worth it for a product I spent like $180 or something.
Recently subscribed, going back though your videos. I'm watching this one. Thanks.
Thanks for the sub. This was the video that started the whole 'trying to fix' series :-)
at 27:38 shouldve tried the good power supply on the console before opening the console and the more powerful power supply blew the capacitor obviously.
Can you do more of these videos? Really interesting stuff.
Not 100% sure where you are from but guessing Essex or other Home Counties, but love the way you say ‘controllers’ as if you are from Chelsea 😂 great videos, inspiring me to give it a go!
For the last one I would have open the screen metal enclosure to check the connection of the lcd, sometimes it's also easy to fix by just heating the contact a little bit. If not a screen of this type should cost 10$ shipped on aliexpress ;)
Amazing! I finally got to see what the inside of a mini Generations console looks like!
Not a whole not, though.... You can just plop in a Raspberry Pi :I
Your mess of wires and tools gives me anxiety lol love your stuff
i've been expecting some EGG smashing but then i realized you are not how to basic nice video :)
Wow you scored there,just a little work and got them working 🖒
Good stuff Vince, enjoyed this one
Thank you, this was awesome to watch!
This is awesome. Reminds me of retrogametech a little who does very similar things to this.
HydraHead9 I remember that guy
Yeah he's been quite inactive for a long time. He's come back a bit here and there but he has a 'real life;. Whatever that is.
Can confirm, don't know what that is. But yeah he's kept making videos just really irregularly. His content is some of the best if you ask me though.
It really is. Luke Morse comes close, but there's something about Retrogametech that just makes him really endearing and he has an air of knowledge. He just seems like a great guy.
CrAzYgIrL if Luke Morse repairs things then I'm a rocket scientist
I heard most collectors use the Retron 5, apparently its a good console! Nice score! There still fairly expensive on Ebay too.
The problem with LCD is a fairly typical issue, normally the soldering on the side of the display going bad. It /could/ be repaired but you'd have to take off that metal shield and risk damaging the display even more, would be easier to find a replacement
Great haul, especially that Retron5.
Excellent vid, in this day n age, its a throw away society. I'm glad someone has taken common sense and put it into practice.
To get ride of the lines you take your solder iron and go across the ribbon cable that connects to the screen. Be careful.
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I like this talking hand Vince.
Make this a series!
Ewan Hill thx for telling me about this but this was the first episode and he asked if he should keep going
2019 and this is indeed a series!
Few questions:
How do you know which screwdriver to use?
How do you use the soldering iron?
How do you use the voltage checker?
You're over thinking it. Common since.
omg it was just the power supply adaptor on that retron5, oh man
Make this a series it's so interesting!
@My Mate Vince with that retro duo handheld you could do like they do with the original gameboy sometimes when lines appear you heat the point where the ribbon cable connects in the screen and it fixes that issue, i don't know you could do that with that screen but there is nothing to lose if you give it a try.
Your soldering iron is actually fine for jobs like that. What you need is FLUX. Flux will make the solder flow onto the joints so much better.
Your videos are highly addictive viewing .. Obviously repairing stuff from eBay is a kind of paying hobby. But what I would like to know probably along with many other viewers is, what do you do in the real world as far as everyday employment goes ?
Keep up the good work here on RUclips.
Word of advice. When you take the charger from another device, is not enough to have an identical connector. Check the polarity of the connector. It is explained on the back next to output.
it used to be way worse 10-15 years ago. Now most have the same polarity. It's mostly just the old stuff which comes to bite with reversed polarities
I believe you can use a back up camera monitor in that hand held console to get it to work. Might be worth looking into .
Love these type of videos
Well, well, well.... I smell a revisit coming on for this one, as if the item in the next parcel isn't repairable, then at least the screen can become a donor for this one :)
Video is awesome Vince.
Controller at the side:Inposters
Controller that Vince is playing with:there are imposters
Console at the side:There is an impostor
Console that Vince is playing with:imposter
Really enjoyed this video, watched the whole thing, keep it up 👍🏻
a good tip for keeping usb ports from falling back out is brace them with some epoxy it will do wonders
Thanks for the tip :-)
good on you sir for teaching and bringing new life too old things.
32:00 ghouls and goblins lmao that made my day. what a game.
At 32 mins in, damn those controllers are clicky lol. Good job I'm glad you had success with this lot, that xbox1 must have been frustrating.
Very cool video. You did repair these consoles very good.
Maybe the retro bit unit was packed with the wrong power supply ie the 8v one , the parents prolly just snatched the nearest black plug , read the back of the console or the booklet for the running voltage , prolly is 5 v m8 . great vid m8 im goin to start from 1st video up to newest . Keep it up m8 .
regarding the lcd. you have a gate and a source line to controll the liquid crystal inside. they work similar to some basic control pads where two lines have to .. cooperate to create a proper signal. the horizontal lines are caused by damaged signal lines. cheap devices usually have tn displays which are naturally white. so since these lines are white they do not get any orders. in most cases either the flex cable or the lines on the glass are damaged. this is not necessarily caused by a user but such items can be ok at the outgoing qc and then fail later as the initial defect worsens. even aging and stress tests can fail to detect them. but i doubt these devices had a proper outgoing quality check like proper brand products. nothing much can be done about it sadly. other than replacing the screen. (former employee in the qc team of LG display, formerly goldstar)
sorry for the bad formatting, but i am writing this from my phone. xD
Great video :)
Please make this a series.
That handheld snes thing is cool.
Vince, if you had a choice of buying an electronic replacement part, and you had a choice to buy from a legitimate electronics supplier or a little cheaper at eBay, lets say both the eBay trader and the legitimate electronics store both delivered the next day, who would you recommend?
Having consider this hypothetical, and with knowledge gained by experience and subscriber interactions, Would you consider being an ambassador for English consumers who unknowingly are being ripped off and even putting their own lives in danger, what I suggest is you produce a video on the dangers of purchasing goods that do not meet your countries certified standards.. Dropped a Like as usual Vince.
you could easily buy a new lcd screen for cheap and attach it. i bought a wii u with a broken gamepad and all i did was buy a new touchscreen and i made a profit.
Not financially viable to buy and replace, simply not worth it.
thefiestaguy lcd screens are pretty cheap and i imagine a portable snes/nes/genesis is worth it.. Highly doubt he'll use it. Even if he made a small profit itd be better to fix n sell than let collect dust.. But i remember them being less than 10 dollars and i imagine thats worth around 60 so def financially viable if memory and my assumption serves me correctly.
What an idiot
The question it comes down to is, is the cost of making a profit (if any - i'm not entirely sure of the value of this console in used condition, assuming there are no other faults that weren't found) worth the time and hassle of sourcing a new screen and fitting it.
Some people don't want the time and the effort if it's only going to make them a small amount of money.
thefiestaguy i understand that and addressed it in an earlier comment. Def profit there.
How do you go about finding projects to work on? Just type in broken/faulty electronics into ebay?