Yes!!! I want Olivia and Elliott to have a lucid grown folks conversation -- in between sips of premium brown liquor -- as to get clarity on what they really mean to each other.😵😄
Would have been nice if he could have told her the truth without being high. While he is talking about the letter being mostly Cathy's words, i think from Liv's view there should be some doubt to what he is saying. The man is high on an unknown drug that could easily have altered his thoughts/ reality. We the viewers know how he feels, but from Liv's POV sceptic
October 5, 2021 - The show does not really want to put Elliot and Olivia together as a couple so they give the fans who want them together a teasers to keep them interested. Some die-hard Elliot and Olivia fans say Elliot should not have left the show then they would be together now. I am not an Elliot and Olivia fan and I agree with the people, who say Olivia would not be where she is today if Elliot would have stayed on the show. Olivia needed to spread her wings without Elliot. They are better off as platonic friends.
@@axelfoley1406 right I just feel if she knew her husband loved another woman then why stay some people cause there selves unnecessary pain for no reason
@@Nnnnnnnn426 i'm with you 100% and the answer to that is i think the kids i think. i'm not speaking from experience but people stay together cause they want their kids to have 2 parents. yes their kids are grown now but i was talking about your remark on why stay married if you love someone else? i do think that he loves Liv and is in love with her but he also was in love with kathy too you can be in love with 2 people or he could just be in love with Liv, and love and Adore kathy if you recall when he was still on SVU they did do a Separation and Kathy did make it known that he loves Liv more than her and i think she was right. and Eliot being Eliot since his kids were still pretty young to the high ground and stayed with his wife who he did still love. but that's just my opinion i have no idea if i'm right or not
@@rolandofgilead43 I feel you this do be happening in real life I just wish other adults would learn not to stay just for kids bc it just makes stuff messy and your wasting time you could have been really truly happy
This was TORTURE!!! Kathy ALWAYS knew that if she & Stabler weren't married, it would've been Olivia... Now, that Kathy's passed, AND we know that SHE wrote the letter to kinda force that LONG OVERDUE CONVERSATION that needed to happen, AND, we know how Stabler feels about Liv, the question is... What happens next😒☕
Why are you idiots falling for it? We know Kathy didn’t write that damn letter the writers don’t want us mad at Elliot so they’re blaming it all on Kathy.
@@psychopat4402 I think you took it wrong but that's me. Kathy was jealous of Olivia in earlier seasons. It kinda makes sense if she wrote it, but I have a feeling that she didn't write all of it.
"I was afraid if I heard your voice, I wouldn't have been able to leave." "Liv, you mean the world to me." "I love you..." "I'm standing right here, Captain." "I need you to let me in." "I felt I had to come here." "But in a parallel universe, it will always be you and I."
Yes, this is getting to be really annoying. I feel they are only doing this for ratings and to keep us hanging on. I will stop watching for now just like I stopped when Stabler left the first time.
Mariska Hargitay was incredible in this scene. When Elliot reaches for Olivia’s face and she almost loses her breath…I. Felt. That. Their chemistry was at another level. I just hate that their story has turned into a “will they or won’t they” thing. Why on earth wouldn’t they??? If they don’t, it will be the biggest missed opportunity in TV history🤦♀️.
They’re gonna. We’ve had more progress with their relationship in one year than in the past 20. There’s no doubt in my mind that they’re building up to a romance.
I sooo agree with, you they have a chemistry that can't be matched. Of any TV pairing on any show even as just partners they have had the most dynamic chemistry of anybody. Even after 11 years it is still just as dynamic.
I always believed -- deep down inside -- that Kathy always knew Elliott and Olivia had a very deep and special bond. That is why in previous episodes, she would have discussions about Elliott with Olivia. Heck, Elliott spent most of his time working and away from home. One thing for sure and two things for certain, Kathy was not a stupid woman. She knew her husband very well. Dear writers of SVU and OC, the fandom most graciously requests that you create a scene where Liv and El can have a normal adult conversation. We do not ask for much but this would be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. Sincerely... "Law and Order" Nation, SVU Diehards and all of the fans worldwide. 👑💞💕❤💓💛💪✊💋
So nicely writen. Thank you. Remember the episode when Olivia calls Stabler during the night. Kathy said " your work wife calling". So yes she knew that they have something special.
Y pedimos que se les haga justicia a estos dos bellos y hermosos personajes Olivia y Elliot, a los que la misma Kathy sabía o que especial que eran el uno para el otro. Sabemos que Kathy siempre fue una buena mujer dentro de lo poco que vimos de ella...por lo mismo siento que hasta en su muerte ella quiso unirlos a pesar de eso también le dolía porque se supone que ama a Elliot, pero al decirles a ambos "siempre tan en sintonía cómo en los viejos tiempos" es obvio que sabía que a pesar de la distancia sus corazones siempr estaban el uno con el del otro. Así es el amor sea correspondido o platónico. Liv y Elliot merecen arreglar todas sus problemas inconclusos y contarse todo lo que ambos pasaron en estos 10 años lejos...que Elliot le diga que estuvo siempre pendiente de ella en la distancia Y sobretodo en su secuestro por Lewis. Para q desde cero puedan ellos comenzar juntos su historia de amor!😍❤.
Honest to God every scene... Every scene between these two since Elliot returned feels like a big budget film masterpiece of pure artistry. Breathtaking
I love how obvious it is that Liv didn't just read the letter - she READ that letter. Like, it seems so obvious - the idea that what they had wasn't real - moreover that Elliot didn't think it was real when she really really did - is something she would have had to reread over and over - but there's something so charming in the fact that she can recite it so easily.
Absolutely. That letter would have hurt her so much the first time she read it. That first line about what they were to each other not being real, that would have killed her. But there's such a dichotomy in those words that the more she read it, the more it would sort have become beautiful to her. That line about having the good man she deserves is sweet and then the parallel univers thing kind of validates her feelings where the first line invalidated them. So I think after she came to terms with the hurt of that first line, she actually grew to kind of treasure the letter in a way that made it hurt all over again to learn that Elliot didn't write it. Great writing and such brilliant acting.
Just like despite the fact that she was trying to remain professional, trying to follow police procedure, trying to convince him to get medical attention. But the second he admitted that he didn’t write most of the letter and that Kathy wrote it, you could see the change in her demeanor and focus. Suddenly she was willing to listen to what he had to say and you can hear it when she said, Okay, before sitting down. It was like she thought to herself, Okay so we ARE gonna do this right now. She had to hear more because she had to ease her wounded heart and get that reassurance that he didn’t really feel that way. You could almost see the mixture of relief and irritation on her face when he admitted he didn’t write the letter. And then the faint surprise and hope on her face when he told her the part he HAD written. She was a mass of emotions and literally didn’t know what to say so it’s actually helpful that he collapsed in her arms. It was brilliantly done all around!
Glad LO got rid of Rollins, now I can start watching the show again! Why don't LO go ahead and write the episode where EL & Oli get married. Please Quit making Elliot to be a sick person. I would like to keep watching. Thanks!
Can we just say what an amazing actor Chris Meloni is ?????? He made that drugged person scene all to real and honestly was very transparent. I was sad when he had left and didn't understand why. Now I have to go back and watch everything from the beginning.
it was never said during his time on the show that he was planning on leaving at all. now after he left i dunno i haven't watched any of those and it wasn't cause i refuse to it was just bad timing the show was on the same time as another show i loved at the time and now i have no idea what the hell is going on
He’s incredibly versatile. He’s excellent at emotional scenes whether it’s rage or sadness, Mel Gibson was the same way. I can’t believe he’s 60 years old too.
@@Provos7777 I don't remember to be honest he did do Melrose as well as desperate housewives as well. If you look him up you will see him on roles before his voice became raspy
It was stunningly painful and beautiful. As much as the timing was bad, ie his current drugged situation, the letter needed to be addressed. It needed to come out that what was written was not his words or feelings, except for the most important part. Once Kathy died, the universes merged and the Parallel Universe became the now. They just need to fix and forgive for their forever to work.
@@claudinefaure4897 true but here's the thing it's too soon after she died the writers know this too as does both Mariska and Christopher as well. so they are gonna play the will they or won't they for awhile. i do think he loves Liv more than Kathy he was way over protective than they i think even said a normal partner should be. this was back when he was still on SVU if i recall. i could be wrong on that though
We’re getting there. He admitted he loved her and didn’t pursue it only for family reasons; the way she behaved with him shows she’s hurt but she does love him too.
actually it was way before this scene, it was when she came to the hospital when she learned that kathy died the way he held liv and then season one of oc; the intervention scene where he said "i love you" while looking at liv; his kids werent suprised but the look on livs face was suprised and those were the moments that her feelings finally are being recipercated by him they truly in love with each other
@@loridawson906 well no, the hospital hug didnt give her any confirmation, it was a grieving man, SHE definitely didnt think that meant anything. The "i love you" was also sometbing she could just shrug off as in he doesnt know what hes talking about. But the letter...he wrote that line before they saw each other again, before new feelings or old feeling reemerged, which means whatever connection and love she had, but felt and knew she couldn't have, was ACTUALLY felt by him at the same time. It will always be you and i...
When Olivia is taking Kathy to the doctor and they get hit by another, Olivia stays calm, she does everything she can to assure Kathy that she's okay. Olivia seeing the blood, Kathy looses consciousness and her and Elliot's baby was at risk, she desperately keeps Kathy awake. At the hospital, Elliot arrives at hospital, sees Olivia coming toward him to assure him they are okay. She walks by him and he grabs her, and hugs her. That scene is wonderful. Just like the Robin Williams episode, when Elliot hears Olivia screaming when she wasn't, it was a recording. His angst is a great scene. These 2 had such chemistry.
@@323azteca Ewwww I don’t have brothers but if I did I wouldn’t act like they do. I have a son and a daughter and they don’t act like this at all. And they’re best friends!
Yes, Elliot was drugged/high but often in vulnerable moments the truth really comes out. I think at first Elliot was truly grieving the loss of Kathy & struggling w/PTSD over how she had died but as time has gone on I think we’re seeing another kind of “grief”: mourning over the life you envisioned for yourself (& others). I was surprised Kathy helped dictate/write the letter but also not really at the same time: She always knew the deep connection Elliot & Olivia had. Kinda makes me wonder had Elliot met Olivia before Kathy (or even near the same time) would he have still married Kathy or even pursued a relationship w/her?! Had Kathy not gotten pregnant w/Maureen (their first born) and subsequently get married & have the rest of their children, I don’t think Elliot would’ve… and deep down Kathy probably always low-key knew this & couldn’t fully face this realization. The only “card” she had left to play was to dictate (no pun intended) the tone/direction of the letter Elliot “wrote” to Liv.
I get that, but I'm not sure Olivia was ready to digest everything or if she'd reach the same conclusion until more time passes. Hopefully by then, there'll be more evidence of his feelings and this whole explanation will just add to that.
Exactly why the line of parallel universe is so significant, he wrote it while he was married so in a way he was admitting to Olivia his love for her, the impossibility of it happening then because of the circumstances but he knew that if any other thing would be different he would have always chosen her, if he had met liv earlier or in any other alternative reality they would be able to love each other. But now that he is not longer married they finally can be together, they don't longer need a parallel universe.
@@nirvanessa I do hope the writers “ship” 😉 Elliot & Liv together… it SO needs to happen!!! It’s like nothing is stopping them now so let’s go, haha!!! 😆😂🤞🏻🙏🏻💞
@@GracieLou88 or the are back to the old trust and friendship they used to have. A drugged Elliot cannot be trust . And Olivia reacted the best responseable way in calling sgt Bell.
This was well done. You could see what it meant to them both as Olivia was slowly connecting the dots and realizing what Stabler was telling her. She was slowly believing again in what she knew to be the truth of all they had meant to one another. And he was letting go of some of the guilt he’s always carried over being in love with Olivia. When she says the last line, her heart was in her throat and he was finally unburdening himself. It was a step in the right direction.
Under the influence, lost, vulnerable: an environment potentially ripe for unguarded truthful moments. Elliot, even dosed to the gills, was compelled to seek out Olivia and make sure she understood that the only honest statement in that letter was the last line... the only one he himself actually wrote. Beautifully acted scene by both Mariska and Chris.
Elliot said it perfectly in the letter he didn't write to Olivia, at the end when he added those words coming from his heart "in a parallel universe (no kathy, no kids) it will be always just you and I" , game set and match, stabler heart has one owner, Olivia Benson and Olivia Benson heart has one owner, Elliot Stabler, deeply inside they both know is the truth.
Elliot is hiding from himself and from his feelings for olivia , He literally had to be drugged and go to her to talk about anything between him. He really needs to put himself on the line for her and confess everything he feels , be there for her before it’s too late for him.
Grow up people! For God's sake Kathy has only been dead for 5 months. Let him mourn the loss of his wife. And good for Kathy, she did what she needed to do to protect her family.
@@michaelfowler2603 Doesn’t mean his feelings for Olivia aren’t real and present though. He loved Kathy and he’s grieving her loss, but he is also dealing with his feelings for Olivia which never really went away. And now he’s back in NY working in a NYPD unit that often crosses to work with hers so it extra complicates everything. The guy fell hard for his partner despite being married with kids. He honestly loves both women and it’s gotta be confusing as hell for him to figure out how to deal with it. He’s only human.
@@marlenesheffield8777 Yes, remember he told Liv “It feels good to not be me for a while”. She gave him a worried look. I hope that he doesn’t get in too deep 😩.
Now that they are on different shows it's the perfect time for them to get together. If they were on the same show it'd be too much. But now it's perfect. Let them be together.
Yes!!! I couldn’t watch shows like this without some side story going as well. It’s just too morbid. Also, the pairing is one of the most tasteful/realistic I’ve seen portrayed on tv. Long overdue and definitely earned. The fact that they never crossed line while he was married is something that should be appreciated.
I just love their beautiful chemistry. And the way Olivias face became when Elliot told her Kathy wrote the letter. Did y'all see her face after the whole I hope you find a man kind and stuff. To me she looked relieved. Olivia has always been in love with Elliot since day one. So for her to hear him say Kathy wrote the letter it was a relief for her and then the ending there with the it will always be you and I. Her face said it all. She's still in love with Elliot stabler. And Elliot went from laughing at that word soulmates to believing it cuz of Olivia. Not even Kathy made him believe in soulmates. Cuz she wasn't his soulmate. It's Olivia. Can't wait for more. Ahhhhh!!! Lol
Man you put it perfectly! He stayed with Kathy because she was the mother of his kids and also he took marriage very seriously! But he seems soooo happy and show his feelings when he is around Olivia ! The way he looks at her and the way he reacts when something to her on the job ! That’s love !
Mariska said on the today show that Eliot and Olivia love each other deeply and it will slow burn but the people that are rooting for Olivia and Barba not going to happen Eliot is burned into her heart they love and he no longer has to worry about his obligation to Kathy people talk about his anger issue even Liv brought it up in an episode I believe between the job and fighting his feelings for Olivia is where alot of anger came once they connect party is over
@@cierramiller4256 he loved his wife. She tried to divorce him twice and he begged her not to. She even asked Olivia to help get him to sign the papers. So tired of people saying he didn't love his wife and only stayed for the kids. He had an out twice.
This is madness!!! What a plot twist! In hindsight.. we have been speculating about the contents of the letter, people thinking it was a peace offering or confession of love but this narative makes way more sense. Elliot wrote the letter in Rome when Kathy was still alive and had no intention of staying in New York. He recognized they could nevet be together no matter how much they loved each other. Regardless of what kathy dictated he put in that last line that sort of negates everything else and basically says that it was always her. Confirming that it is not just in her head. It was real. He then decided to give it to her anyway as a way of freeing her from himself... while also feeling guilty about his feelings for liv and kathy's death and trying to honor her. I feel like he saw how she thrived without him and how much she grew and wanted to give her an out. Little did he know that liv never stopped loving him and was not gonna let him go so easily... now with kathy gone it seems as though elliot can't contain his feelings anymore. It pours out of him and he just gravitates towards her. The writers are giving us a very slow burn and angst. Olivia deserves a scene where she just lashes out at him and lets it all out though. I cant wait to see where they take us. EO is endgame!
I remember watching this show since I was kid, and boy, despite that, I saw their partnership and freindship, the way the look each other, no matter if they were with other people, I had the idea and the feeling that they should be together and listening Eliot saying that in another universe, it will always you and I, and Olivia reaction is just confirms my theory that they deserve to be together, they are meant to be
These two are absolute GOLD together, the chemistry, how genuine it feels, how little words they need to use and make us all feel every emotion, the connection is tv magic!!!! they better maximize having them back together.
I also believe that Cathy knew all along that Elliot loved Olivia. But you have to give him credit. He stayed faithful. ( I’m not positive this is true because I only started watching two or three years ago. I hope it’s true!!).
It is . It is not when it is about Danni Beck. His wife wanting to go, Olivia being somewhere undercover , Stabler had a new partner who was a widow. A blond. They kissed.
It was so obvious that his connection with Liv didn’t compare with his connection with Kathy, but his relationship with God hindered his ability to leave his wife
I also have to give Liv credit, she never tried to break up their relationship and she always console Kathy letting her know that she has nothing to worry about unlike Detective Dani.
I know that some people really disliked this scene because of the fact that they feel like they were click baited into watching it and nothing happened between Bensler as well as the fact that the production team painted Kathy as the bad person. But I feel as though that is not entirely the case, the scene was performed pretty well and here's why. 1. The biggest reason that nothing was happening was that Elliot was drugged. Olivia as a character has been established to be extremely selfless. Like, come on, if she wasn't going to get in the way of Elliot's and Kathy's marriage for her own personal feelings, then she is most definitely not going to take advantage of him while he was drugged on an unknown substance. Had something happened between the two while Elliott was drugged, I definitely would've stopped watching the show, it would ruin her character. 2. Something that should be considered is the fact that it was Kathy who wanted Elliot to attend Olivia's award ceremony. She understands that there is a strong connection between the two, but she is afraid of how far that bond will go. I suspect that Kathy is not jealous of Olivia and even respects her on a certain level (if she was, I don't think she would've wanted Elliot to go to the ceremony in the first place), but she is just more afraid of losing Elliot. If she had lived, she most likely would've let them still see each other but she wanted to ensure that there was a boundary between the two that they couldn't cross. She even hoped that Olivia would be happy and find someone who she deserved, as long as it wasn't Elliot. I could literally write a whole essay on analysis of this scene but just for the sake of not dragging this comment for too long, I'll stop there. But honestly, we've got two seasons of content from these two, fans just need to have some patience, this sort of making up is not going to happen overnight. These two are definitely aware of their feelings for each other, all that needs to happen now is for them to properly discuss it at a proper moment.
@@gabby7313 Yesss!!! Absolutely your right they need to learn how to become each other best friend again first . Before they can process to lover's this is my favorite comment I've seen!!
I think it's the opposite. Kathy really loved Olivia. If this was any other woman, Kathy would've probably just confronted her and told her "Hey, you and my husband are getting far too close, I think you should take a step back". Kathy was such good friends with Olivia that she couldn't bear to treat her that way. Which is arguably a fault on Kathy's part.
@@alexandraanderson3988 Which is why her writing the letter to hurt Liv doesn't make sense. I think she made Elliot write the letter so that he could cut himself off- she didn't believe they hadn't spoken for ten years. She wasn't worried about Liv interfering, but she was about Elliot straying.
Hey I really agree with you and I think that you’re right Kathy really hated Olivia just she wrote a latter to hurt her doesn’t make any sense which is kinda the point she could’ve just said to her Hey can kinda take a step back cause I feel uncomfortable that you and my husband are too close like if that made feel uncomfortable she could’ve just told Olivia she didn’t have say all those things that were into the letter to hurt her why would she do that to her husband’s best friend and partner that wasn’t really nice and I think you’re right
He confessed. That’s all I care about. In parallel universe it’s him and her. HE CONFESSED! Oh mine… the way he reached for her, his hand oh her shoulder, hair. He looks at her like she is a dream he can feel
It was hard seeing him like this. I just want them to have a normal conversation. Without all the dramatics. They love each other, I need to hear them say it.
Cathy: "Specifically, Liv, you got in the way of Elliot being my husband....or at least, it's my mission for you to know that if we all have to live in the same city again. Nothing personal." Ugh. She's not wrong but damn that's sad.
Some people make their own life a hell because they feel so unsecure that they are jealous , pointless jealousy ruins relationship.. Another point, Elliot who was so brave when he was hunting criminals was such a weak personn when he was with his wife, he was acting like a coward. Olivia would not appreciate this Stabler.
But why stay with your husband knowing he loves another woman you put yourself through unnecessary heartbreak bc you wanted a husband and your family together
@@claudinefaure4897 that's how it is sometimes when it comes to family i think. you can be brave all you want hunting criminals but your family weather you like it or not is your weakest point. that's why you see Criminals go after family members they know this. that does not mean you are weak either family can make you stronger too but no doubt if you are a cop someone you love who is in danger can no doubt cloud you judgement on your actions i'm sure.
He was awesome, an actor playing an intense character trying to focus in an intense moment through a drug-induced haze. Have you ever had to have a serious conversation when you were drunk or stoned? It's tough. It requires a lot of effort.
elliott was with kathy out of moral and religious obligations and beliefs. had he not gotten her pregnant, he would've been with olivia. he had love for kathy as the mother of his kids and a partner but he had real feelings for olivia. that's who he was always supposed to be with but he met kathy first and got her pregnant. i'm sure both of them thought "what if we met first" many times.
Can they ever just hang out for gods sake? Now that it's been renewed, we need a few months of them being friends and helping each other out to ease us back into wanting them together.
Why aren’t they?? I’ve just got into the show I really want them to end up together but then I saw a video where she’s with a guy named Ed Tucker and they adopted a kid I’m so confused lol and whys Elliot drugged up or drunk? Or does he have dementia or something
Wow out of all the years I've watched law and order this is one of the amazing moments I've ever seen between detective stabler and Olivia Benson. 👮💙🙏🎖️❤️❤️⚜️
I know this is a show but if this was real life Liv would've been the best friend ever, she never once did anything sly and sneaky to mess with Elliot like other shows do just for the drama, thats why they where such a good team.
No, if this was real life, Elllot and Kathy would have counted down the days that their eldest child left for college and split. The mid-life divorce is quite common. Still a lot of living to do, you want to do it with the person who you love, who are compatible with..Elliot and Kathy had grown apart, hell he had an emotional affair for much of his marriage.
Stabler and Benson were so close in my opinion and they were perfect for each other back in their hey day and they getting older than me because they are and I never forgotten about them at all because I'm die hard fan of them
I LOVE these two and want them to be together so badly. I know they have a LOTto work through, so let them start doing that. I am so over the undercover thing, the fact that Elliot and Olivia haven't even shared a kiss but you have Elliot kissing randoms he doesn't even know. REALLY! I am trying to be patient, but after 22 years that's a little difficult.
The only other couple I could think of that were like Liv and El but almost happened in real life wS Robert Wagner and Stefanie Powers. You can feel that chemistry coming out of Liv and El.
@@daradiant1Another similar celebrity romance is the one between Ginnifer Goodwin (Snow White) and Josh Dallas (Prince Charming) from Once Upon a time. Their characters had insane romantic chemistry and apparently the actors also did in real life. They were both in relationships before they met in early 2011 and eventually became a couple. Ginnifer was engaged before she started the show and Josh was married. When Josh and Ginnifer met they said it was an instant connection. Ginnifer broke off her engagement in May 2011 during the beginning of the show and Josh filed for divorce a few months after that in late 2011. Ginnifer and Josh denied being in a relationship during the time in 2011 because they were still in relationships but it is very likely they had an affair with one another. It seems that they left their significant others because they both had mutual strong feelings for one another. Later they admitted to dating right after Josh got divorced in 2011. They officially announced they were dating in March 2012 and they got engaged a little over a year later in 2013. The wedding was in 2014 and they had 2 kids after that. Josh said he knew Ginnifer was the one shortly after the first time he read lines with her and that it hit him like a blinding light. It's interesting because they described their relationship as "true love" just like the relationship between their characters in the show.
Can we talk about how incredible the music was in this scene?!?! The music swelled with such a defined crescendo as it neared the climatic end, with him saying her name, trying to stand, falling into her arms, but still looking up to meet her eyes and reaching up to caress her cheek and lips?!?! Be still my ❤️ that was so intense and so amazing! Well done by the show and incredible acting by Mariska and Chris. 🙏🏻😘 The letter’s contents and their reactions aside that ending ALONE made this scene worth watching again and again and again! Goosebumps and teary eyes every time!
The second they said "in a parallel universe, it will always be you an I" i started fing crying lol. Best scene ever and i swear to god if El and Liv don't get together soon ima be pissed off
Agree, it's the Benson and Stabler love theme and it's beautiful, it has been used on other scenes but in this one it really enhanced the whole thing and it was beautifully executed, the performances were amazing.
@@VetroMatt Every time I watch it as soon as as her voice catches on the line “parallel universe” tears well up. The music kills me. I’m a sucker for powerful music.
Kathy knew her husband met his soulmate, his literal partner. I feel like Kathy just wanted her husband to continue to chose her and their family considering it was her idea for the letter to begin with, he knows exactly how he feels towards Liv. I don’t think he needed Kathy to dictate anything he just won’t admit to himself cuz he thinks he doesn’t deserve to be happy. “In a parallel universe it will always be you and a I” basically instilling that he will always be IN LOVE with Liv. In a way most of the letter didn’t really say anything we didn’t already know like the fact Elliot would’ve never left his wife and kids and that whatever feelings they may have had is only because of the job which could be true but that doesn’t change the fact Kathy even after all those years knew her husband loved another woman.
I respect that the character, Stabler, made the decision to remain faithful to his wife, his marriage vows, and his family. Even though his feelings for, and chemistry with Olivia were almost overpowering. If only that happened more in real life.
Look at Liv I couldn't blame the man for falling in love with her. She's an epic character with a strong personality and strong looks to top it off with. A real winner Liv is.
Idk what everyone is talking about. She’s not ugly but I have never found her to be pretty. Strong personality for sure but not pretty or gorgeous at all
@@Catsss1017 Pictures don't do her justice..Its not the way that she looks that makes her so attractive, but the way that she carries herself, her essence..
Her mostly. And I do think she genuinely believed it would help the two of them move on and let go of each other finally. She of course didn’t realize that Elliott was going to add something to the letter that ultimately would make it impossible for the two of them to ever let go and move on from their feelings for each other. So honestly this would have ended up backfiring on Kathy in the long run. Elliott would have stayed with Kathy but his heart would belong to Olivia and vice versa. Honestly it’s probably kinder that she died, because now she doesn’t have to watch her husband spend the rest of their married life pining for another woman he can’t have .
Can they please hook up for God sake, like I want them to be an item so bad. 23 years in the making, this is torture. What a waste of chemistry, please get them together is about time they do.
was screaming watching this! The emotions in Olivias voice 😭 when she quoted: *Olivia:* "That what we were to each other was never real. That we got in the way of each other being who or what we needed to be." *Elliott:* "That was Kathy." *Olivia:* "...And if there's a man in my life you hope he's the kind and faithful, and devoted...man that i deserved." *Elliott:* "-Kathy" *Olivia:* "...but in a parallel universe-" *Elliott:* "It will always be you and I. I wrote that.I slippedit in there before sealing the envelope." Ahhhhh 🥰 *he loves her, she still loves him.* Wish he'd stop sleeping with mob wives and kiss Olivia 💋 without the drugs, near death and intoxicated!!
Waiting for so many years for this, they deserve the opportunity to be together and be happy and we as fans deserve to see that. I want more Bensler, more Chriska so please #RenewOC
I love Organized Crimes writing because no offense you can see what’s gonna happen on SVU from a mile away lately and I really didn’t expect the letter to be a drag on their relationship. I was holding my breath.
I get he wrote that when Kathy was still alive and he had no intention to get divorced even though he was in love with Olivia. So it'd make sense his wife would say those things and he should write it down. But then, why the hell did he gave it to Liv after Kathy died? When he knew that was there? I cannot understand that
Someone on Tumblr said it. Penance. Guilt. It wasn’t too long after Kathy died when Elliott gave her the letter. He was still overwhelmed by his grief, massive guilt and was suffering from PTSD and not dealing with it. I agree that he gave her the letter as Kathy had wished out of guilt for his own feelings and thinking it was his fault that Kathy died. For him it was as an act of penance for his “sins”, he was paying for his sins of secretly loving Olivia, not being able to let Liv go and for what he thought was his role in Kathy’s horrible death. I also think he felt he didn’t deserve Olivia and that she had moved on anyway. Remember he may still believe that Noah is her biological son and she found someone else to make her happy. At least that seemed to be what he believed after he talked to Finn initially, so I think he assumed she’d let him go and was over any feelings they might have once secretly shared. It’s a complex mess that could be explained and sorted out if they’d just sit the hell down and freaking talk to each other.
I thought maybe to see what reaction he would get from Liv.... if I felt like someone loved me and I gave them that letter..... I would expect that person to be PISSED that I said that to them... after all we have been through... it was not real?? ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!!!???
@@VetroMatt I understood that... but the question was why would he give the letter to Liv even after Kathy had died. I was just saying maybe he gave it to her to possibly get a reaction to see if what he thinks is love between the two of them is really what it is. If she did not give two squats then she would not have reacted..... AS WE SEE!! Once she found out who wrote it... it was all over her face! She looked like she wanted to kill Kathy but then she looked relieved as hell when he confirmed those were not his words or feelings towards her and that if he was not with Kathy he would definitely would be with Liv.
It shows Stabler and Olivia were good people as they didn't act on their feelings for each other as he was married. That's good. Maybe he could be with her but what if Kathy was jealous from beyond the grave as she was in life? It wouldn't be cheating if they got together but maybe the kids wouldn't like it, maybe they would
If they dont get together and actually be in a few episodes showing the love. I WILL BE UPSET! 😡I have invested 42-45 mins per episode for 20 years for them to get together! Olivia never had a relationship last, and it was because of ELIOT. None of them measured up plus she had trust issues cause the man she loved straight ghosted her. They betta do right!
I am quietly confident that at least one person currently writing for this show was formerly writing a *lot* of SVU fanfiction in the mid-to-late-00s, and I am in no way saying I'm unhappy about that.
I think Cathy's words in the letter were more a reflection on how Cathy felt about her and Elliot but she wanted to put that feeling on Olivia. Cathy and Elliot What they had wasn't real and they got in the way of each other.
I always felt they loved one another and when they married, they were in love. But the troubles they had in their marriage, their nearly getting divorced but deciding to stay together because she was pregnant, it was all obligation at that point and they were no longer actually in love. They are like so many real life couples who stay together because of the kids or because of their church's stance on divorce when both would be happier if they divorced and each continued to be involved in their children's lives. I think he and Cathy could have been friends once the sting of the divorce faded. So basically, I rambled just to say I agree, he and Cathy held one another back from finding real happiness.
The letter reveal contradicts so many things that have already happened on both shows. Not gonna lie, I hate it. The only thing I loved about this scene is Elliot on his knees as if he's worshiping her which is what he should be doing instead of the writers piling up even more unneeded complications onto their relationship. Let them heal so they can love each other. You can have drama without giving them (particularly Olivia) emotional whiplash in the process.
My only thought about fixing this is to let Olivia UNLEASH her anger at Elliot, and then have him explain himself. Fingers crossed for next week with elliots mom being around
@@hillarystone7506 Ooh I like that. That would be a good plot twist. I'm also one who sort of believes there will be a hallucination version vs. the real version.
hillary stone hmm explain. You mean a hallucination in that Elliot not only imagined what he said, but what liv said? Aka, the letter didn’t really say the cruel stuff she quoted to him?
I love Benson and Stabler.... I think everyone does..... but what I loved most about them is they were always just friends and didnt muck it up with everything else. Stabler loved Kathy and even if she was skeptical of Olivia at times she knew she could trust her, she helped deliver one of their children remember? Olivia always had respect for Kathy and the family, even when her and Stabler were fighting
"But in a parallel universe it will always be you and I" damn i felt that ❤️😭
I cried hearing that.😭😭😭😭
It almost broke her heart because she thought Kathy wrote it.
@@feixubai7812 me too. They brought his character back and killed off Kathy for a reason....otherwise why kill her off?
@@kathycostello6931Damn. It hurts so bad. 😭😭😭
Just HEARTBREAKING
Can they have a scene where he isn't drunk, high or having a PTSD moment so they can REALLY talk
Yes
Next season
Yes!!! I want Olivia and Elliott to have a lucid grown folks conversation -- in between sips of premium brown liquor -- as to get clarity on what they really mean to each other.😵😄
Would have been nice if he could have told her the truth without being high. While he is talking about the letter being mostly Cathy's words, i think from Liv's view there should be some doubt to what he is saying. The man is high on an unknown drug that could easily have altered his thoughts/ reality.
We the viewers know how he feels, but from Liv's POV sceptic
October 5, 2021 - The show does not really want to put Elliot and Olivia together as a couple so they give the fans who want them together a teasers to keep them interested. Some die-hard Elliot and Olivia fans say Elliot should not have left the show then they would be together now. I am not an Elliot and Olivia fan and I agree with the people, who say Olivia would not be where she is today if Elliot would have stayed on the show. Olivia needed to spread her wings without Elliot. They are better off as platonic friends.
@@winterhug4331 exactly!
Kathy was always a little salty with Olivia. “There were three people in this relationship”
I mean it did seem like stabled loved Olivia
true, but can you blame her? lol
In certain jobs, you spend more time with your colleagues than your actual family.
@@axelfoley1406 right I just feel if she knew her husband loved another woman then why stay some people cause there selves unnecessary pain for no reason
@@Nnnnnnnn426 i'm with you 100% and the answer to that is i think the kids i think. i'm not speaking from experience but people stay together cause they want their kids to have 2 parents. yes their kids are grown now but i was talking about your remark on why stay married if you love someone else? i do think that he loves Liv and is in love with her but he also was in love with kathy too you can be in love with 2 people or he could just be in love with Liv, and love and Adore kathy if you recall when he was still on SVU they did do a Separation and Kathy did make it known that he loves Liv more than her and i think she was right.
and Eliot being Eliot since his kids were still pretty young to the high ground and stayed with his wife who he did still love. but that's just my opinion i have no idea if i'm right or not
@@rolandofgilead43 I feel you this do be happening in real life I just wish other adults would learn not to stay just for kids bc it just makes stuff messy and your wasting time you could have been really truly happy
This was TORTURE!!! Kathy ALWAYS knew that if she & Stabler weren't married, it would've been Olivia... Now, that Kathy's passed, AND we know that SHE wrote the letter to kinda force that LONG OVERDUE CONVERSATION that needed to happen, AND, we know how Stabler feels about Liv, the question is... What happens next😒☕
Why are you idiots falling for it? We know Kathy didn’t write that damn letter the writers don’t want us mad at Elliot so they’re blaming it all on Kathy.
@@psychopat4402 you’re kicking at a dead horse
@@LucasBozovich I’m kicking at a dead horse? Wtf are you talking about I’m speaking facts lmao.
@@psychopat4402 I think you took it wrong but that's me. Kathy was jealous of Olivia in earlier seasons. It kinda makes sense if she wrote it, but I have a feeling that she didn't write all of it.
Yep for sure
"But in a parallel universe, It will always be you and I"
Crying rn i'm not joking.
"I was afraid if I heard your voice, I wouldn't have been able to leave."
"Liv, you mean the world to me."
"I love you..."
"I'm standing right here, Captain."
"I need you to let me in."
"I felt I had to come here."
"But in a parallel universe, it will always be you and I."
A much needed recap of where we are so far 😅 love it
love it
😢
And prior to that it was a complete guessing game, we gained all this in what 15 episodes? This is going places people.
pls update this one with words from blood out episode..🙏❤️
“In an parallel universe it’ll always be you and I”
Made me cry lmao
*Parallel Universe
@@theblackhood4812 i feel so stupid rn.
@@VetroMatt Jo
SPAIN but the S is silent
I gotta feeling our great great grand kids STILL won't see/know the ending of this.....LoL
Maybe,,,,
Rrriiiigggghhhtttt 🤣🤣🤣...😭😭😭
Law and Order SVU season 46 finale we finally get an answer to weather or not they will end up together
Yes, this is getting to be really annoying. I feel they are only doing this for ratings and to keep us hanging on. I will stop watching for now just like I stopped when Stabler left the first time.
🤣🤣🤣
Mariska Hargitay was incredible in this scene. When Elliot reaches for Olivia’s face and she almost loses her breath…I. Felt. That. Their chemistry was at another level. I just hate that their story has turned into a “will they or won’t they” thing. Why on earth wouldn’t they??? If they don’t, it will be the biggest missed opportunity in TV history🤦♀️.
I'm with you about this.
And glad that you nail it.
I want them to but I worry about the dynamic after they do. Like it has to be navigated by the writers very carefully.
They’re gonna. We’ve had more progress with their relationship in one year than in the past 20. There’s no doubt in my mind that they’re building up to a romance.
I sooo agree with, you they have a chemistry that can't be matched. Of any TV pairing on any show even as just partners they have had the most dynamic chemistry of anybody. Even after 11 years it is still just as dynamic.
it's too soon to do it i think
Liv - "I'm going to call it in."
El - "I didn't write the letter."
Liv - "Alright. Hold up. Keep talking."
Right?!??! She even muttered, “Okay” before sitting down. It was like she was saying, “So we ARE gonna do this now.”
Wait I need an update ?! What the hell did I miss ??
I appreciate that the writers gave us the conformation that Kathy always knew, that she was human, and that she saw it.
Forever ago, during the scene with Stabler's mom and Olivia, she said "Well I see why you scare the pants off Kathy." Kathy always knew.
Sim ! Assisti esse episódio ontem ...
I always believed -- deep down inside -- that Kathy always knew Elliott and Olivia had a very deep and special bond. That is why in previous episodes, she would have discussions about Elliott with Olivia. Heck, Elliott spent most of his time working and away from home. One thing for sure and two things for certain, Kathy was not a stupid woman. She knew her husband very well.
Dear writers of SVU and OC, the fandom most graciously requests that you create a scene where Liv and El can have a normal adult conversation. We do not ask for much but this would be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. Sincerely...
"Law and Order" Nation, SVU Diehards and all of the fans worldwide.
👑💞💕❤💓💛💪✊💋
You are very right
So nicely writen. Thank you.
Remember the episode when Olivia calls Stabler during the night. Kathy said " your work wife calling".
So yes she knew that they have something special.
Y pedimos que se les haga justicia a estos dos bellos y hermosos personajes Olivia y Elliot, a los que la misma Kathy sabía o que especial que eran el uno para el otro. Sabemos que Kathy siempre fue una buena mujer dentro de lo poco que vimos de ella...por lo mismo siento que hasta en su muerte ella quiso unirlos a pesar de eso también le dolía porque se supone que ama a Elliot, pero al decirles a ambos "siempre tan en sintonía cómo en los viejos tiempos" es obvio que sabía que a pesar de la distancia sus corazones siempr estaban el uno con el del otro. Así es el amor sea correspondido o platónico. Liv y Elliot merecen arreglar todas sus problemas inconclusos y contarse todo lo que ambos pasaron en estos 10 años lejos...que Elliot le diga que estuvo siempre pendiente de ella en la distancia Y sobretodo en su secuestro por Lewis. Para q desde cero puedan ellos comenzar juntos su historia de amor!😍❤.
Yes and amen @Marlene Sheffield
Maybe we'll just copy this letter and keep sending it to the network in until they listen!
Honest to God every scene... Every scene between these two since Elliot returned feels like a big budget film masterpiece of pure artistry. Breathtaking
Hey Matt B. I agree with you! Also these 2 actors are superb!!!
The fact she remembers what that letter said let's us know she has feels too 🥺
I love how obvious it is that Liv didn't just read the letter - she READ that letter. Like, it seems so obvious - the idea that what they had wasn't real - moreover that Elliot didn't think it was real when she really really did - is something she would have had to reread over and over - but there's something so charming in the fact that she can recite it so easily.
Absolutely. That letter would have hurt her so much the first time she read it. That first line about what they were to each other not being real, that would have killed her. But there's such a dichotomy in those words that the more she read it, the more it would sort have become beautiful to her. That line about having the good man she deserves is sweet and then the parallel univers thing kind of validates her feelings where the first line invalidated them. So I think after she came to terms with the hurt of that first line, she actually grew to kind of treasure the letter in a way that made it hurt all over again to learn that Elliot didn't write it. Great writing and such brilliant acting.
Just like despite the fact that she was trying to remain professional, trying to follow police procedure, trying to convince him to get medical attention. But the second he admitted that he didn’t write most of the letter and that Kathy wrote it, you could see the change in her demeanor and focus. Suddenly she was willing to listen to what he had to say and you can hear it when she said, Okay, before sitting down. It was like she thought to herself, Okay so we ARE gonna do this right now. She had to hear more because she had to ease her wounded heart and get that reassurance that he didn’t really feel that way. You could almost see the mixture of relief and irritation on her face when he admitted he didn’t write the letter. And then the faint surprise and hope on her face when he told her the part he HAD written. She was a mass of emotions and literally didn’t know what to say so it’s actually helpful that he collapsed in her arms. It was brilliantly done all around!
God yes.
Glad LO got rid of Rollins, now I can start watching the show again! Why don't LO go ahead and write the episode where EL & Oli get married. Please Quit making Elliot to be a sick person. I would like to keep watching. Thanks!
@@rhondaclark9653 spare me from women jealous over another woman’s beauty.
Can we just say what an amazing actor Chris Meloni is ?????? He made that drugged person scene all to real and honestly was very transparent.
I was sad when he had left and didn't understand why. Now I have to go back and watch everything from the beginning.
it was never said during his time on the show that he was planning on leaving at all. now after he left i dunno i haven't watched any of those and it wasn't cause i refuse to it was just bad timing the show was on the same time as another show i loved at the time and now i have no idea what the hell is going on
He’s incredibly versatile. He’s excellent at emotional scenes whether it’s rage or sadness, Mel Gibson was the same way. I can’t believe he’s 60 years old too.
@@Provos7777 yes he is if my memory serves me right he was on 1st and ten back in the day too I used too love that show
@@rolandofgilead43 Yes!!! I believe Voight from Chicago PD was on that show as well
@@Provos7777 I don't remember to be honest he did do Melrose as well as desperate housewives as well. If you look him up you will see him on roles before his voice became raspy
It was stunningly painful and beautiful. As much as the timing was bad, ie his current drugged situation, the letter needed to be addressed. It needed to come out that what was written was not his words or feelings, except for the most important part. Once Kathy died, the universes merged and the Parallel Universe became the now. They just need to fix and forgive for their forever to work.
Beautifully written!
19Q4 is going to happen.
Elliot already said "I love you" ,now he just needs to be clean and says it again.
Then Olivia it's up to you.
Huh?
@@claudinefaure4897 true but here's the thing it's too soon after she died the writers know this too as does both Mariska and Christopher as well. so they are gonna play the will they or won't they for awhile. i do think he loves Liv more than Kathy he was way over protective than they i think even said a normal partner should be. this was back when he was still on SVU if i recall. i could be wrong on that though
I wonder if he thought he was going to die and didn't want to die without letting her knw who really wrote the letter and how he really feels.
We’re getting there. He admitted he loved her and didn’t pursue it only for family reasons; the way she behaved with him shows she’s hurt but she does love him too.
Forever the moment she realizes her thoughts and feelings were reciprocated all these years.
actually it was way before this scene, it was when she came to the hospital when she learned that kathy died the way he held liv and then season one of oc; the intervention scene where he said "i love you" while looking at liv; his kids werent suprised but the look on livs face was suprised and those were the moments that her feelings finally are being recipercated by him they truly in love with each other
@@loridawson906 well no, the hospital hug didnt give her any confirmation, it was a grieving man, SHE definitely didnt think that meant anything. The "i love you" was also sometbing she could just shrug off as in he doesnt know what hes talking about. But the letter...he wrote that line before they saw each other again, before new feelings or old feeling reemerged, which means whatever connection and love she had, but felt and knew she couldn't have, was ACTUALLY felt by him at the same time. It will always be you and i...
When Olivia is taking Kathy to the doctor and they get hit by another, Olivia stays calm, she does everything she can to assure Kathy that she's okay. Olivia seeing the blood, Kathy looses consciousness and her and Elliot's baby was at risk, she desperately keeps Kathy awake.
At the hospital, Elliot arrives at hospital, sees Olivia coming toward him to assure him they are okay. She walks by him and he grabs her, and hugs her. That scene is wonderful. Just like the Robin Williams episode, when Elliot hears Olivia screaming when she wasn't, it was a recording. His angst is a great scene.
These 2 had such chemistry.
Can you please help me I need searching everywhere do you know when the new episodes return
I see them more like brothers, brothers love.
@@323azteca Ewwww I don’t have brothers but if I did I wouldn’t act like they do. I have a son and a daughter and they don’t act like this at all. And they’re best friends!
@@ruadhrose eww, gross, you thinking of sexuality. Sick brain. Ruining so much of the friendship
"I wrote that."
Ten months later, and I'm still screaming.
Omg me too its driving me nuts!!
This video has over 700k views. Lots of us are still screaming and it’s been over a year now!
Yes, Elliot was drugged/high but often in vulnerable moments the truth really comes out. I think at first Elliot was truly grieving the loss of Kathy & struggling w/PTSD over how she had died but as time has gone on I think we’re seeing another kind of “grief”: mourning over the life you envisioned for yourself (& others). I was surprised Kathy helped dictate/write the letter but also not really at the same time: She always knew the deep connection Elliot & Olivia had. Kinda makes me wonder had Elliot met Olivia before Kathy (or even near the same time) would he have still married Kathy or even pursued a relationship w/her?! Had Kathy not gotten pregnant w/Maureen (their first born) and subsequently get married & have the rest of their children, I don’t think Elliot would’ve… and deep down Kathy probably always low-key knew this & couldn’t fully face this realization. The only “card” she had left to play was to dictate (no pun intended) the tone/direction of the letter Elliot “wrote” to Liv.
I get that, but I'm not sure Olivia was ready to digest everything or if she'd reach the same conclusion until more time passes. Hopefully by then, there'll be more evidence of his feelings and this whole explanation will just add to that.
Exactly why the line of parallel universe is so significant, he wrote it while he was married so in a way he was admitting to Olivia his love for her, the impossibility of it happening then because of the circumstances but he knew that if any other thing would be different he would have always chosen her, if he had met liv earlier or in any other alternative reality they would be able to love each other. But now that he is not longer married they finally can be together, they don't longer need a parallel universe.
@@wxclim8 True! I don’t think Liv has been able to digest everything fully either… Elliot keeps doing these emotional word “vomits” at her! 😆😂🤦🏼♀️
@@nirvanessa I do hope the writers “ship” 😉 Elliot & Liv together… it SO needs to happen!!! It’s like nothing is stopping them now so let’s go, haha!!! 😆😂🤞🏻🙏🏻💞
@@GracieLou88 or the are back to the old trust and friendship they used to have.
A drugged Elliot cannot be trust .
And Olivia reacted the best responseable way in calling sgt Bell.
Can we just talk about this incredible orchestration?
Hello? The they set the score on God mode for this
This was well done. You could see what it meant to them both as Olivia was slowly connecting the dots and realizing what Stabler was telling her. She was slowly believing again in what she knew to be the truth of all they had meant to one another. And he was letting go of some of the guilt he’s always carried over being in love with Olivia. When she says the last line, her heart was in her throat and he was finally unburdening himself. It was a step in the right direction.
How many people are still in 2022 just rewatching this clip cause it’s the best?
Me
Watching in 2024 but we never had organised crime on our shores in UK 😢
2024
Still waiting - almost 2025🤦🏼♀️
2024
Under the influence, lost, vulnerable: an environment potentially ripe for unguarded truthful moments. Elliot, even dosed to the gills, was compelled to seek out Olivia and make sure she understood that the only honest statement in that letter was the last line... the only one he himself actually wrote. Beautifully acted scene by both Mariska and Chris.
Elliot said it perfectly in the letter he didn't write to Olivia, at the end when he added those words coming from his heart "in a parallel universe (no kathy, no kids) it will be always just you and I" , game set and match, stabler heart has one owner, Olivia Benson and Olivia Benson heart has one owner, Elliot Stabler, deeply inside they both know is the truth.
Elliot is hiding from himself and from his feelings for olivia , He literally had to be drugged and go to her to talk about anything between him. He really needs to put himself on the line for her and confess everything he feels , be there for her before it’s too late for him.
Well said!! And now he is deep undercover with the Albanian mob, he does not have to confront his emotions or really deal with his feelings.
THANK YOU. EXACTLY.
Grow up people! For God's sake Kathy has only been dead for 5 months. Let him mourn the loss of his wife. And good for Kathy, she did what she needed to do to protect her family.
@@michaelfowler2603 Doesn’t mean his feelings for Olivia aren’t real and present though. He loved Kathy and he’s grieving her loss, but he is also dealing with his feelings for Olivia which never really went away. And now he’s back in NY working in a NYPD unit that often crosses to work with hers so it extra complicates everything. The guy fell hard for his partner despite being married with kids. He honestly loves both women and it’s gotta be confusing as hell for him to figure out how to deal with it. He’s only human.
@@marlenesheffield8777 Yes, remember he told Liv “It feels good to not be me for a while”. She gave him a worried look. I hope that he doesn’t get in too deep 😩.
Now that they are on different shows it's the perfect time for them to get together. If they were on the same show it'd be too much. But now it's perfect. Let them be together.
Exactly they aren’t partners anymore , it’s the perfect time
Yes!!! I couldn’t watch shows like this without some side story going as well. It’s just too morbid. Also, the pairing is one of the most tasteful/realistic I’ve seen portrayed on tv. Long overdue and definitely earned. The fact that they never crossed line while he was married is something that should be appreciated.
The way he took her face kills me he loves her I love them so much.
I just love their beautiful chemistry. And the way Olivias face became when Elliot told her Kathy wrote the letter. Did y'all see her face after the whole I hope you find a man kind and stuff. To me she looked relieved. Olivia has always been in love with Elliot since day one. So for her to hear him say Kathy wrote the letter it was a relief for her and then the ending there with the it will always be you and I. Her face said it all. She's still in love with Elliot stabler.
And Elliot went from laughing at that word soulmates to believing it cuz of Olivia. Not even Kathy made him believe in soulmates. Cuz she wasn't his soulmate. It's Olivia. Can't wait for more. Ahhhhh!!! Lol
Man you put it perfectly! He stayed with Kathy because she was the mother of his kids and also he took marriage very seriously! But he seems soooo happy and show his feelings when he is around Olivia ! The way he looks at her and the way he reacts when something to her on the job ! That’s love !
Mariska said on the today show that Eliot and Olivia love each other deeply and it will slow burn but the people that are rooting for Olivia and Barba not going to happen Eliot is burned into her heart they love and he no longer has to worry about his obligation to Kathy people talk about his anger issue even Liv brought it up in an episode I believe between the job and fighting his feelings for Olivia is where alot of anger came once they connect party is over
@@cierramiller4256 he loved his wife. She tried to divorce him twice and he begged her not to. She even asked Olivia to help get him to sign the papers. So tired of people saying he didn't love his wife and only stayed for the kids. He had an out twice.
This is madness!!! What a plot twist! In hindsight.. we have been speculating about the contents of the letter, people thinking it was a peace offering or confession of love but this narative makes way more sense. Elliot wrote the letter in Rome when Kathy was still alive and had no intention of staying in New York. He recognized they could nevet be together no matter how much they loved each other. Regardless of what kathy dictated he put in that last line that sort of negates everything else and basically says that it was always her. Confirming that it is not just in her head. It was real. He then decided to give it to her anyway as a way of freeing her from himself... while also feeling guilty about his feelings for liv and kathy's death and trying to honor her. I feel like he saw how she thrived without him and how much she grew and wanted to give her an out. Little did he know that liv never stopped loving him and was not gonna let him go so easily... now with kathy gone it seems as though elliot can't contain his feelings anymore. It pours out of him and he just gravitates towards her. The writers are giving us a very slow burn and angst. Olivia deserves a scene where she just lashes out at him and lets it all out though. I cant wait to see where they take us. EO is endgame!
Mariska acting in this scene is incredible. Her tiny expressions with each word he said, spoke volumes about her feelings.
y’all when they do kiss it’s gonna be so rewarding😩
Yep
I can’t 😢their chemistry is out of this world. I choke up every time they have a vulnerable moment.
I remember watching this show since I was kid, and boy, despite that, I saw their partnership and freindship, the way the look each other, no matter if they were with other people, I had the idea and the feeling that they should be together and listening Eliot saying that in another universe, it will always you and I, and Olivia reaction is just confirms my theory that they deserve to be together, they are meant to be
I have always been a fan of Oilvia and Elliott. This is going to be a long journey!
Hah, you weren't wrong
These two are absolute GOLD together, the chemistry, how genuine it feels, how little words they need to use and make us all feel every emotion, the connection is tv magic!!!! they better maximize having them back together.
I also believe that Cathy knew all along that Elliot loved Olivia. But you have to give him credit. He stayed faithful. ( I’m not positive this is true because I only started watching two or three years ago. I hope it’s true!!).
It is .
It is not when it is about Danni Beck.
His wife wanting to go, Olivia being somewhere undercover , Stabler had a new partner who was a widow. A blond. They kissed.
@@claudinefaure4897 but they were separated and in the process of getting the divorce
It was so obvious that his connection with Liv didn’t compare with his connection with Kathy, but his relationship with God hindered his ability to leave his wife
he did not, he cheated, he cheated in his mind
I also have to give Liv credit, she never tried to break up their relationship and she always console Kathy letting her know that she has nothing to worry about unlike Detective Dani.
I knew he had a heart for her. Wow those drugs are really powerful.
I know that some people really disliked this scene because of the fact that they feel like they were click baited into watching it and nothing happened between Bensler as well as the fact that the production team painted Kathy as the bad person. But I feel as though that is not entirely the case, the scene was performed pretty well and here's why.
1. The biggest reason that nothing was happening was that Elliot was drugged. Olivia as a character has been established to be extremely selfless. Like, come on, if she wasn't going to get in the way of Elliot's and Kathy's marriage for her own personal feelings, then she is most definitely not going to take advantage of him while he was drugged on an unknown substance. Had something happened between the two while Elliott was drugged, I definitely would've stopped watching the show, it would ruin her character.
2. Something that should be considered is the fact that it was Kathy who wanted Elliot to attend Olivia's award ceremony. She understands that there is a strong connection between the two, but she is afraid of how far that bond will go. I suspect that Kathy is not jealous of Olivia and even respects her on a certain level (if she was, I don't think she would've wanted Elliot to go to the ceremony in the first place), but she is just more afraid of losing Elliot. If she had lived, she most likely would've let them still see each other but she wanted to ensure that there was a boundary between the two that they couldn't cross. She even hoped that Olivia would be happy and find someone who she deserved, as long as it wasn't Elliot.
I could literally write a whole essay on analysis of this scene but just for the sake of not dragging this comment for too long, I'll stop there. But honestly, we've got two seasons of content from these two, fans just need to have some patience, this sort of making up is not going to happen overnight. These two are definitely aware of their feelings for each other, all that needs to happen now is for them to properly discuss it at a proper moment.
💯 They need to become friends again before they can become lovers.
THIS! YES! THANK YOU!
Is it true that Nick Amaro is coming back ?
He will bring some energy in the drama. Maybe some troubles for Amanda.
But it should shake them.
@@claudinefaure4897 Yeah, he's coming back for the 500th episode of SVU
@@gabby7313 Yesss!!! Absolutely your right they need to learn how to become each other best friend again first . Before they can process to lover's this is my favorite comment I've seen!!
Wow, Kathy really hated Olivia. The reason they were even back in NY is to make sure Olivia got the letter that would break her heart.
I think it's the opposite. Kathy really loved Olivia. If this was any other woman, Kathy would've probably just confronted her and told her "Hey, you and my husband are getting far too close, I think you should take a step back". Kathy was such good friends with Olivia that she couldn't bear to treat her that way. Which is arguably a fault on Kathy's part.
No she didn't she was just conserned an worried but once she trusted oliva she really seemed to like her
@@alexandraanderson3988 Which is why her writing the letter to hurt Liv doesn't make sense. I think she made Elliot write the letter so that he could cut himself off- she didn't believe they hadn't spoken for ten years. She wasn't worried about Liv interfering, but she was about Elliot straying.
Hey I really agree with you and I think that you’re right Kathy really hated Olivia just she wrote a latter to hurt her doesn’t make any sense which is kinda the point she could’ve just said to her Hey can kinda take a step back cause I feel uncomfortable that you and my husband are too close like if that made feel uncomfortable she could’ve just told Olivia she didn’t have say all those things that were into the letter to hurt her why would she do that to her husband’s best friend and partner that wasn’t really nice and I think you’re right
He confessed. That’s all I care about. In parallel universe it’s him and her. HE CONFESSED! Oh mine… the way he reached for her, his hand oh her shoulder, hair. He looks at her like she is a dream he can feel
THe fact that she could quote it without referencing it says she read it over and over!
It's the knowing THE LETTER by heart for me!!!
OMG Yes! Liv has literally memorized that thing word for word.
The way her face was scared that it was Kathy who wrote the parallel line and her face switched to surprise when he said he slipped it in. 😩😩
It was hard seeing him like this. I just want them to have a normal conversation. Without all the dramatics. They love each other, I need to hear them say it.
Cathy: "Specifically, Liv, you got in the way of Elliot being my husband....or at least, it's my mission for you to know that if we all have to live in the same city again. Nothing personal."
Ugh. She's not wrong but damn that's sad.
Jealousy and insecurities never dies with some women it seems
Some people make their own life a hell because they feel so unsecure that they are jealous , pointless jealousy ruins relationship..
Another point, Elliot who was so brave when he was hunting criminals was such a weak personn when he was with his wife, he was acting like a coward.
Olivia would not appreciate this Stabler.
@@leelohaskin7941 Elliot should not have had an emotional affair with another woman.
But why stay with your husband knowing he loves another woman you put yourself through unnecessary heartbreak bc you wanted a husband and your family together
@@claudinefaure4897 that's how it is sometimes when it comes to family i think. you can be brave all you want hunting criminals but your family weather you like it or not is your weakest point. that's why you see Criminals go after family members they know this. that does not mean you are weak either family can make you stronger too but no doubt if you are a cop someone you love who is in danger can no doubt cloud you judgement on your actions i'm sure.
OMG! The acting in this scene is incredible! I am in tears!
Thank You NBC for bringing them back!
This scene was tense!!! And gave me chills at the same time! WOW!
This was hilarious, I just couldn’t stop laughing at Elliot’s facial expressions 🤣🤣
He acted it perfectly. He was supposed to be intensely drugged up.
He was awesome, an actor playing an intense character trying to focus in an intense moment through a drug-induced haze. Have you ever had to have a serious conversation when you were drunk or stoned? It's tough. It requires a lot of effort.
elliott was with kathy out of moral and religious obligations and beliefs. had he not gotten her pregnant, he would've been with olivia. he had love for kathy as the mother of his kids and a partner but he had real feelings for olivia. that's who he was always supposed to be with but he met kathy first and got her pregnant. i'm sure both of them thought "what if we met first" many times.
Can they ever just hang out for gods sake? Now that it's been renewed, we need a few months of them being friends and helping each other out to ease us back into wanting them together.
I am so excited for this duo 😭😭😭😭😭😭
If they are just baiting us with this and never intend for them to get together, I. Swear. To. God...
Are my emotions a JOKE to you?!? 😚 I will always ship these two!
the fact that this popped up in my feed and says 3 YEARS AGO ??? Wild they still aren't together
Why aren’t they?? I’ve just got into the show I really want them to end up together but then I saw a video where she’s with a guy named Ed Tucker and they adopted a kid I’m so confused lol and whys Elliot drugged up or drunk? Or does he have dementia or something
Wow out of all the years I've watched law and order this is one of the amazing moments I've ever seen between detective stabler and Olivia Benson. 👮💙🙏🎖️❤️❤️⚜️
“But in a parallel universe… it will always be you and I”.
I know this is a show but if this was real life Liv would've been the best friend ever, she never once did anything sly and sneaky to mess with Elliot like other shows do just for the drama, thats why they where such a good team.
No, if this was real life, Elllot and Kathy would have counted down the days that their eldest child left for college and split. The mid-life divorce is quite common. Still a lot of living to do, you want to do it with the person who you love, who are compatible with..Elliot and Kathy had grown apart, hell he had an emotional affair for much of his marriage.
Stabler and Benson were so close in my opinion and they were perfect for each other back in their hey day and they getting older than me because they are and I never forgotten about them at all because I'm die hard fan of them
My favorite on-screen couple ever. Period.
I'm so glad these moments are unfolding on OC just for this score! Dude! It sounds like the epitome of sheer overwhelming emotion.
Elliot opened his heart up to Olivia
I LOVE these two and want them to be together so badly. I know they have a LOTto work through, so let them start doing that. I am so over the undercover thing, the fact that Elliot and Olivia haven't even shared a kiss but you have Elliot kissing randoms he doesn't even know. REALLY! I am trying to be patient, but after 22 years that's a little difficult.
I absolutely agree! This undercover thing is getting boringggg. I liked it better when he was in a suit and working next to Bell.
LIV AND EL BETTER BE TOGETHER AFTER THIS UNDERCOVER STUFF OTHERWISE IMA GONNA ON A RANT
The only other couple I could think of that were like Liv and El but almost happened in real life wS Robert Wagner and Stefanie Powers. You can feel that chemistry coming out of Liv and El.
@@daradiant1Another similar celebrity romance is the one between Ginnifer Goodwin (Snow White) and Josh Dallas (Prince Charming) from Once Upon a time. Their characters had insane romantic chemistry and apparently the actors also did in real life. They were both in relationships before they met in early 2011 and eventually became a couple. Ginnifer was engaged before she started the show and Josh was married. When Josh and Ginnifer met they said it was an instant connection. Ginnifer broke off her engagement in May 2011 during the beginning of the show and Josh filed for divorce a few months after that in late 2011. Ginnifer and Josh denied being in a relationship during the time in 2011 because they were still in relationships but it is very likely they had an affair with one another. It seems that they left their significant others because they both had mutual strong feelings for one another. Later they admitted to dating right after Josh got divorced in 2011. They officially announced they were dating in March 2012 and they got engaged a little over a year later in 2013. The wedding was in 2014 and they had 2 kids after that. Josh said he knew Ginnifer was the one shortly after the first time he read lines with her and that it hit him like a blinding light. It's interesting because they described their relationship as "true love" just like the relationship between their characters in the show.
That “Olivia whisper” could get anyone to do or say anything.
Can we talk about how incredible the music was in this scene?!?! The music swelled with such a defined crescendo as it neared the climatic end, with him saying her name, trying to stand, falling into her arms, but still looking up to meet her eyes and reaching up to caress her cheek and lips?!?! Be still my ❤️ that was so intense and so amazing! Well done by the show and incredible acting by Mariska and Chris. 🙏🏻😘 The letter’s contents and their reactions aside that ending ALONE made this scene worth watching again and again and again! Goosebumps and teary eyes every time!
The second they said "in a parallel universe, it will always be you an I" i started fing crying lol. Best scene ever and i swear to god if El and Liv don't get together soon ima be pissed off
Agree, it's the Benson and Stabler love theme and it's beautiful, it has been used on other scenes but in this one it really enhanced the whole thing and it was beautifully executed, the performances were amazing.
@@VetroMatt Every time I watch it as soon as as her voice catches on the line “parallel universe” tears well up. The music kills me. I’m a sucker for powerful music.
I thought the music felt right with the scene
And also made it have the emotional feeling
The fact that she knows exactly what was written in the letter, says a lot about her feelings towards EL
Kathy knew her husband met his soulmate, his literal partner. I feel like Kathy just wanted her husband to continue to chose her and their family considering it was her idea for the letter to begin with, he knows exactly how he feels towards Liv. I don’t think he needed Kathy to dictate anything he just won’t admit to himself cuz he thinks he doesn’t deserve to be happy. “In a parallel universe it will always be you and a I” basically instilling that he will always be IN LOVE with Liv.
In a way most of the letter didn’t really say anything we didn’t already know like the fact Elliot would’ve never left his wife and kids and that whatever feelings they may have had is only because of the job which could be true but that doesn’t change the fact Kathy even after all those years knew her husband loved another woman.
The Bensler slow burn omfggggg 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I respect that the character, Stabler, made the decision to remain faithful to his wife, his marriage vows, and his family. Even though his feelings for, and chemistry with Olivia were almost overpowering. If only that happened more in real life.
and the Oscar for best actor in a drama series goes to Chris Meloni for Organized Crime. He clearly deserves it for his performance in this scene.
Look at Liv I couldn't blame the man for falling in love with her. She's an epic character with a strong personality and strong looks to top it off with. A real winner Liv is.
Idk what everyone is talking about. She’s not ugly but I have never found her to be pretty. Strong personality for sure but not pretty or gorgeous at all
@@Catsss1017 Pictures don't do her justice..Its not the way that she looks that makes her so attractive, but the way that she carries herself, her essence..
I can't get over the fact that Kathy "dictated" a "Dear John" letter to Olivia. Who was that supposed be easy for?
Her mostly. And I do think she genuinely believed it would help the two of them move on and let go of each other finally. She of course didn’t realize that Elliott was going to add something to the letter that ultimately would make it impossible for the two of them to ever let go and move on from their feelings for each other. So honestly this would have ended up backfiring on Kathy in the long run. Elliott would have stayed with Kathy but his heart would belong to Olivia and vice versa. Honestly it’s probably kinder that she died, because now she doesn’t have to watch her husband spend the rest of their married life pining for another woman he can’t have .
23 years!! Please ya'll it's time!
"I didn't write the letter" Olivia was like *Excuse me?* Livs face while Elliot's hands was all over her though, girlie was blushing hard- 🤠👍❤️
Happy to see Elliot back in Law and Order SUV. Now I’m starting watching again👏👏👏👏
Can they please hook up for God sake, like I want them to be an item so bad. 23 years in the making, this is torture. What a waste of chemistry, please get them together is about time they do.
was screaming watching this! The emotions in Olivias voice 😭 when she quoted:
*Olivia:* "That what we were to each other was never real. That we got in the way of each other being who or what we needed to be."
*Elliott:* "That was Kathy."
*Olivia:* "...And if there's a man in my life you hope he's the kind and faithful, and devoted...man that i deserved."
*Elliott:* "-Kathy"
*Olivia:* "...but in a parallel universe-"
*Elliott:* "It will always be you and I. I wrote that.I slippedit in there before sealing the envelope."
Ahhhhh 🥰 *he loves her, she still loves him.* Wish he'd stop sleeping with mob wives and kiss Olivia 💋 without the drugs, near death and intoxicated!!
How many women dream that a Stabler comes to them and confesses their love this passionately to them?
They love each other and they can't be together thus is the big sadness you just know they won't let them be happy together. 😥
Waiting for so many years for this, they deserve the opportunity to be together and be happy and we as fans deserve to see that. I want more Bensler, more Chriska so please #RenewOC
If 2 people were ever made. For each other, it's Those 2.❤
I love Organized Crimes writing because no offense you can see what’s gonna happen on SVU from a mile away lately and I really didn’t expect the letter to be a drag on their relationship. I was holding my breath.
Oh my goodness the part where he said it will always be you and I ... I slipped that in ❤😢
I'll watch this in 40 years and still sit there in shock.
I get he wrote that when Kathy was still alive and he had no intention to get divorced even though he was in love with Olivia. So it'd make sense his wife would say those things and he should write it down.
But then, why the hell did he gave it to Liv after Kathy died? When he knew that was there? I cannot understand that
Someone on Tumblr said it. Penance. Guilt. It wasn’t too long after Kathy died when Elliott gave her the letter. He was still overwhelmed by his grief, massive guilt and was suffering from PTSD and not dealing with it. I agree that he gave her the letter as Kathy had wished out of guilt for his own feelings and thinking it was his fault that Kathy died. For him it was as an act of penance for his “sins”, he was paying for his sins of secretly loving Olivia, not being able to let Liv go and for what he thought was his role in Kathy’s horrible death. I also think he felt he didn’t deserve Olivia and that she had moved on anyway. Remember he may still believe that Noah is her biological son and she found someone else to make her happy. At least that seemed to be what he believed after he talked to Finn initially, so I think he assumed she’d let him go and was over any feelings they might have once secretly shared. It’s a complex mess that could be explained and sorted out if they’d just sit the hell down and freaking talk to each other.
@@ruadhrose yeah I was thinking something similar, keeping Olivia away while he tried to find the killer... Or maybe both.
I thought maybe to see what reaction he would get from Liv.... if I felt like someone loved me and I gave them that letter..... I would expect that person to be PISSED that I said that to them... after all we have been through... it was not real?? ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!!!???
@@ni-coc.2255 kathy wrote that not El so i think it's fair to say El doesnt really feel that way consideirng he does love Liv and made that very clear
@@VetroMatt I understood that... but the question was why would he give the letter to Liv even after Kathy had died. I was just saying maybe he gave it to her to possibly get a reaction to see if what he thinks is love between the two of them is really what it is. If she did not give two squats then she would not have reacted..... AS WE SEE!! Once she found out who wrote it... it was all over her face! She looked like she wanted to kill Kathy but then she looked relieved as hell when he confirmed those were not his words or feelings towards her and that if he was not with Kathy he would definitely would be with Liv.
It shows Stabler and Olivia were good people as they didn't act on their feelings for each other as he was married. That's good. Maybe he could be with her but what if Kathy was jealous from beyond the grave as she was in life? It wouldn't be cheating if they got together but maybe the kids wouldn't like it, maybe they would
This should’ve been the first clip y’all posted after last week’s episode
I can feel every. Single. Emotion. In this scene. Our modern day Mulder and Scully. Chris Carter take some notes cause you screwed up!!!
OMG! I need to start binge watching this IMMEDIATELY!
Right? I stumbled across this and now I’m HOOKED.
I’ve watched 10 seasons in a month
👁👄👁
@@Liv-hx9xx how do u-? Sis u must have ALOT of free time omg. I still cant get past season 13
@@THEDOORIZCLOSED school can wait✋🏻
If they dont get together and actually be in a few episodes showing the love. I WILL BE UPSET! 😡I have invested 42-45 mins per episode for 20 years for them to get together! Olivia never had a relationship last, and it was because of ELIOT. None of them measured up plus she had trust issues cause the man she loved straight ghosted her. They betta do right!
I am quietly confident that at least one person currently writing for this show was formerly writing a *lot* of SVU fanfiction in the mid-to-late-00s, and I am in no way saying I'm unhappy about that.
I think Cathy's words in the letter were more a reflection on how Cathy felt about her and Elliot but she wanted to put that feeling on Olivia. Cathy and Elliot What they had wasn't real and they got in the way of each other.
I always felt they loved one another and when they married, they were in love. But the troubles they had in their marriage, their nearly getting divorced but deciding to stay together because she was pregnant, it was all obligation at that point and they were no longer actually in love. They are like so many real life couples who stay together because of the kids or because of their church's stance on divorce when both would be happier if they divorced and each continued to be involved in their children's lives. I think he and Cathy could have been friends once the sting of the divorce faded. So basically, I rambled just to say I agree, he and Cathy held one another back from finding real happiness.
Are you serious @Blast Feom The Past?
Yeah that was my thoughts as well.
@@alwarrior1148 yep
It's Kathy and a true fan would actually know that!
Twin flames I tell you. Not matter what they will always come back to each other
0:38 the fact that he still has the sense of mind to roll his eyes at her being so logcial and calculating at a time like this😂
I love the decoration of her appartement
I do too. I prefer the white walls. I love the pic of Noah & Olivia on the wall. I love all the pics of Olivia & Noah
The letter reveal contradicts so many things that have already happened on both shows. Not gonna lie, I hate it. The only thing I loved about this scene is Elliot on his knees as if he's worshiping her which is what he should be doing instead of the writers piling up even more unneeded complications onto their relationship. Let them heal so they can love each other. You can have drama without giving them (particularly Olivia) emotional whiplash in the process.
My only thought about fixing this is to let Olivia UNLEASH her anger at Elliot, and then have him explain himself. Fingers crossed for next week with elliots mom being around
@@jessicarainesart Absolutely,.
That is why I believe we are getting 2 versions of the same letter without realizing it. Elliot’s version is through conversation.
@@hillarystone7506 Ooh I like that. That would be a good plot twist. I'm also one who sort of believes there will be a hallucination version vs. the real version.
hillary stone hmm explain. You mean a hallucination in that Elliot not only imagined what he said, but what liv said? Aka, the letter didn’t really say the cruel stuff she quoted to him?
I love Benson and Stabler.... I think everyone does..... but what I loved most about them is they were always just friends and didnt muck it up with everything else. Stabler loved Kathy and even if she was skeptical of Olivia at times she knew she could trust her, she helped deliver one of their children remember? Olivia always had respect for Kathy and the family, even when her and Stabler were fighting