TF2: The Administrator's Secret Identity
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- What is TF2 Administrator's real name? Is she really over 100 years old? And could she possibly be related to the Mann family or even one of the Team Fortress mercs?
We look at all the known facts about The Administrator's true identity, using only TF2 official Valve sources to uncover her secret lore and The Administrator's true identity.
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Sources:
Every source is linked on screen at the time it is mentioned.
All comics - tf2.com/comics.php
Zepheniah's will - tf2.com/mannwill
Birth certificate - tf2.com/gray
🎵 Music:
Team Fortress 2 - Dapper Cadaver
Team Fortress 2 - Mercenary Park
Sam & Max: Season One - The Office
Team Fortress 2 - Saxton's Dilemma
Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse - The Museum
Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse - Stinky's Dinner
Team Fortress 2 - Seduce Me!
Team Fortress 2 - A Little Heart to Heart
Eastward - Tale
Hades - Final Expense
Portal 2 - 9999999
KD Knows My Name - Can't Relate (Vulcan Boy Lo-fi Remix)
🎬 Chapters:
0:00 - Who is The Administrator?
0:28 - The Administrator comic
1:06 - The family portrait
2:05 - Is The Administrator Elizabeth?
2:57 - What is The Administrator's real name?
3:46 - How old is The Administrator (Elizabeth)?
5:34 - How old is The Administrator (Helen)?
7:04 - What is The Administrator's plan?
8:06 - The Administrator's lore dump
8:48 - The Administrator's debt
9:21 - The Administrator's family
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*Who do YOU think the real Administrator is?*
Also a quick for the record: I have no doubt that I am not the first nor only person to reach this conclusion. In roughly 1 week it will have been SEVEN YEARS since we last had any official Team Fortress lore, so I am sure at least one of the 100,000s of TF2 fans who have read the comics in that time have had the same theory, and I encourage you to share your alternate theories (or even better versions of this one!) to keep the conversation going. I wouldn't normally cross the bridge into fan theory territory, but when trying to write this as a "facts only" style video it became quicky apparent that that was basically impossible 😅
I tried to go a few steps further than I have before with the editing, too. Cinematic 2:1 aspect ratio anyone??? All the 3D lighting and camera work also brought my poor little computer to its needs, so I hope you enjoyed! Do let me know your feedback either way, I might not reply too often but I do read comments and will be especially reading the ones on this video :)
As always, thanks for your patience and see you soon for Hale and Mann videos, and also some other stuff in between
I can't wait for the Mann and Hale vids, you did an honestly great job on this video about the Administrator.
she is administrator dumy
Double name. That's it. Living for a 100+ years without changing a name *while* doing criminal activity is hard, y'know?
The real administrator are the friends we made along the way.
I am the administrator (real.not clickbait.)
Would be funny if the real answer to this problem with the two names is just that the Administrator's full name is Helen Elizabeth, or Elizabeth Helen.
So its the same person then. Which means she’s almost 200 years old at this point.
@@roman108 she does have a life extending machine
Elizabeth could well be her middle name
honestly, it might just be
@@aaronboy5512 Elizabeth D. Helen
Not only a great speculation of TF2's messy lore, but eye candy edits too? Man, you deserve a salute
When upload?
When Video?
There's alot of theories saying that The Administrator is in debt to Olivia Mann (The little girl Saxton refused to fight which made her the owner of Mann Co)
The backbone of this theory is that Olivia is just has old as The Administrator and is using Australium to make herself younger, Main evidence for this is that Olivia has gold-ish eyes in the comics. It might be a bit too predictable but I have a strong feeling Olivia was gonna have something to do with the ending
One issue: how could Elizabeth extend her life with Australium BEFORE Radigan Conagher created the life extending machines? Is there another way she figured out on her own? Since the machines were specifically made for the Mann brothers…
Through Gray Mann
Probably
Well Australians (per the comics) were the first to discover it, and its properties. Also, they were already many years ahead with technology. It may not be too farfetched that she bribed some of them to create a life extending machine for herself before knowing Radigan.
It may be the effects could be absorbed with contact or proximity. She basically pulls an Elizabeth Bathory but with Austrailium laced gravel instead of blood.
Australium can extend life and give cool perks to those who are just close to it
The machine just makes it extra efficient
Australians got their own power from the metal through sheer proximity. Perhaps Elizabeth manages the same, but needed Conagher to make it stronger.
I actually think Helen/Elizabeth/Administrator was born in 1800,as she appears to be around 50 based on the way the art style is done
Maybe, though we do have to keep in mind that smoking actively worsens the effects of aging.
I am Pyro. I am real.
Indeed
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Haters will say it's fake
This video really blew me away. I didn't realize the Administrator's background was so deep.
Given the choice, I'd like to see the next video be about the Hales! Love your work Casper. Keep it up!
She made a deal with the G-Man. To what end, I don't know, but he's the suitcase man in the torn up part of the picture.
TF2 is a Half-Life/Portal prequel
There's more truth to this than you may think. Initially the Team Fortress group was supposed to interact with Corporal Sheppard in Opposing Force
Portal is already pushing it, but I feel like TF2’s lore is far too silly to fit in with Half-Life. That would canonize Australium, Sunken Zealand, Shakespearicles, rocket-jumping being invented before stairs, etc. in Half-Life’s world. G-Man could still be present but I doubt it’s one timeline.
@@al_eggs Whose to say the G-man didn't alter the timeline in some way?
I could see Gman hopping between universes.
You know, at this point. I wish we could somehow get the lore answers from the writing team from the comics....
Heck, if they jist gave the community an outline, and some dialog, they could just legit make an "official unofficial" part 7.
I always love seeing stuff about the TF2 lore. Can't wait to see the other videos you got cooking.
What a good theroy, I cant wait to see if its true in the next comic
Should be releasing any second now.....aaannnny second now......SEE ITS OUT, no wait, thats the "coming soon" label
I reread comics for the first time somewhere in 2022, five years after the last one released, and I grew up since, so I found myself, a) actually understanding and taking note of the little details; and b) absolutely loving Helen.
Even if she didn't have as much pages as the mercs, Pauling, Gray, etc; She still caught my attention and fascination. I just fell in love with her character, especially her final dialogue with Dell in the last comics. Now with even Australium gone, she is the only thread that still connects the past with the present. And the dialogue itself... It is amazing. The page of Helen looking at her younger self is the moment I felt her character, I felt a writer's connection with how deep and interesting she is, with how easily she intrigued me.
Honestly, after years of waiting, I just hope that, when it happens, they are going to make it all worth the wait. I was never really the fan of Helen and Elizabeth being different people, I think that the opposite makes her character even more menacing. Yeah, I can also see how there is this possibility, but I feel like Elizabeth is probably dead then, since Dell is with Helen and she kinda uses all the remaining Australium on herself
Yeah
this is a damn great video! really clean and concise, and some brilliant visuals to boot.
altho, i’m pretty sure when Charles Darling is referring to 150 years, he means that she has been collecting australium for 150 years, not that she’s been alive for 150 years.
So if Helen IS Elizabeth, she would’ve started collecting australium around the time her nephews were born (1822). Which is interesting, because Loose Canon claims that Elizabeth started hunting australium around 1880. So there are a few options here.
1. Helen is Elizabeth’s daughter, and the “Elizabeth” name tag under the woman who gave Radigan the australium on Catch-Up is an error.
2. Helen is Elizabeth, and the “spent the last decade hunting it, ounce by ounce” thing is either a complete bullshit lie or an error (or a product of loose canonicity).
3. Helen is Elizabeth’s daughter, and somehow started her mass theft (likely) before she was even born and before her mother started the same mass theft.
4. Bullshit fourth explanation
As for the Admin’s reflection in The Naked and the Dead, depending on the whole Elizabeth-Helen thing, I think it could either be Elizabeth discovering the youth-granting powers of australium for the first time, or a young Helen receiving her first bar of australium from Elizabeth.
Oh yeah, one last thing I wanna talk about. In Unhappy Returns, while Miss Pauling acts out her orders to burn the Administrator’s genealogy records, she seems to spare a singular rolled-up paper from it. At first I thought it was the coordinates (either to meet Admin, or to Organ Needle), but she already received those earlier (and the paper is much smaller). Then I thought it was just the “Big Book of Mayoring” from the same issue, but unless the artist and colourist had a miscommunication, then that isn’t right either. So what would be so important in a genealogy record to (presumably) deliver back to the Admin?
Sorry for the massive comment btw, it’s just relieving to see more in-depth discussion of the TF2 lore/comics outside of the hellscapes of Steam and Reddit forums.
You forget that we still have an unknown person on the family portrait, that looks like a man holding something
Also no mention of Silas Mann whatsoever and what role he had in all of this.
i think thats gray mann in the portrait
@@TheDestroyer55e I'm pretty sure he was stolen by eagles when he was born
It can't be Gray, they never knew him. Plus, the man seems bulkier than Gray anyway. @@TheDestroyer55e
I don’t think her saying the 1 hour of Australian is long enough to finish what she started, I think she meant it’s enough to end it and lose gracefully
everyone keeps forgetting olivia
with her yellow gold eyes
just like the administrator when she injected all that australium
i think she is the key to all of this
Don't worry, she's getting A LOT of screen time in the "Meet the Manns" video!
You mean yellow pupils. The Administrator had full yellow eyeballs. Its not the same.
We know plenty about the Manns, I want to know more about how the Hales fit into this.
However, you brought up a good point. What is the Administrator's evil plan? What debt can she settle in one hour what she couldn't do in 150 years?
happy new year, good content keep it up!
Depends if the writers will ever be resurrected to finish the story
I love the visual edits in this!!
Damn casperr that was a good video. There’s a lot that you covered that I didn’t even know about thanks
We can be sure that her plan is not to live forever, because in the comics she did say that she doesn't need to stay alive forever, only enough to solve her debt
From what I remember from the secret doomsday script, (That no one seems to talk about in these TF2 lore videos, despite being canon info) the Administrator told the government about her plans due to her being the one behind the Poopy Joe disaster, with one of her own personal mercenary teams swapping the austrailium with Gravel Water. She tells the government her true motives (Heavily censored of course), and the reason why she hired the tf2 mercs, (So they wouldn’t suspect her ulterior motives.) and it disturbed them so much that they wouldn’t interfere further.
I really hope the comics continue. Awesome video!
Apparently there was a (unconfirmed) leaked script of the final TF2 comic where it was revealed that the "debt" the Administrator owed to was to an eldritch abomination taking the physical form of Abraham Lincoln. As for the "debt" itself, it was supposed to be some form of ritualistic sacrifice to the evil being which would've explained the reason why the Gravel Wars even happened in the first place. There's a video by Richter Overtime where he actually discusses the supposed leaked script where he further dives into what could've been.
honestly really hope this script isn't real because it was so bad lol
@@doctaterror tf2 lore in general is ass because it was written by jay pinkerton (grossss!!!!)
@@doctaterror same honestly lmao
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 Wait, what's wrong with Jay Pinkerton?
I can see that working.
The eldritch thing took the form of an authority she respected as a kid. Everybody is taught that Lincoln was a cool dude, why wouldn't you do him a favor? Like tricking your siblings into fighting and killing each other over something petty and stupid. The eldritch thing could even then take forms of people Team Fortress look up to (Pauling for Scout, Scout's mom for Spy, etc.)
10:16 I just realized they both have different hair colors, dark brown (Elizabeth) & black (Helen).
Really going all game theory on the important stuff like tf2.
Always love tf2 lore from how unapologetically messy it all is. Not fnaf messy, but you get it, lol.
What a top tier video!
I am seeing more and more quality tf2 stuff ging around.
Imagine Valve just said that the comics won’t be continuing because of this video, that would be CRAZY
I really wouldn't hold my breath for any TF2 comic release anyway, buddy
They wouldn’t release anything whether this video existed or not. Nor would they even care about it.
Love the video
Man I wish they’d finish the comics
Very excellent theory and great video looking forward to the next one!
Elizabeth is the mother of Gray and his sister Helen, thats why Helen look so much like Elizabeth and why Zephenaia put her in charge of the gravel and Gray. When Elizabeth died Helen was old enought to take her place as administrator. She used it to make her brother Gray plan possible.
I don't think Elizabeth was able to prolong her life for that long with australium. For thatshe would have need a device like Blu, Red and Gray got to be immortal. With just being in contact with pure austalium ingots can only have a limited effect of aging.
Bro really just put sniper in a wig and thought we wouldn’t notice.
Happy new year guys
They're obviously a single person, and is the one who lived the most time out of the Zephinniah' sons. Hell, she is more likely as old as Zeph himself, except she survived for longer.
We must wait until they will release more TF2 Comic.
I have always thought that Helen/The Administrator and Elizabeth different people. Her being fascinated with Australium happened when she was a child which would have been before she new the Mann's. Elizabeth still being alive is an interesting idea, but how and why? I don't think that it's a good thing she has been alive so long (for her). sm
Her name could also just be Helen Elizabeth...
Helen's my Gran's Name. Dear God!
Maybe helen is the administrator 's middle name?
Or she goes by her middle name, Elizabeth
In the 1820's-1850's
Mann do the mann video, godammit i dint even play the game and i like this videos
i think the hales would have more interesting backstory
I'm guessing Elizabeth is her surname or maiden name and Helen is her given name.
Don't forget the script for the unreleased final comic
Happy new guys
Meet the hales
I wish they would just finish these damn comics man
Wow, new video
still waiting for comic #7.
I would like to see saxton hale first :)
Sometimes I think that Team Fortress 2 is about Family...
I like to think that it's a mother/daughter situation and there was the affair as mentioned at the end of the video.
As for the debt, I imagine it's connected to Hale because of his involvement with the mercenaries and will though it's been a few years since I've read the comics.
Meet the Manns would be great as the next video. Glad to see you uploading again as well. Do you still stream?
She extended her life via contract with a cosmic entity that looks like Abraham Lincoln. C’mon guys, it’s not that hard to figure out
frickin sweet
For as long as I have been through the comics, I always theorized that since the story is wrapping up for TF2... The 7th comic would dictate the FINAL TF2 update. Because this is the true finale, TF2 wouldn't have a happy ending because it's not that kind of game with that kind of story like Overwatch. When the Administrator is dead, the Mercs will go unemployed again, even Miss Pauling. Whatever they will do in the 7th comic, is their last mission.
After that? Team Fortress disbands once more, and perhaps, for the last time.
what if elizabeth changed her name after a while, to helen?
Which is why people like pauling and hale wouldn’t know her real name, only her changed one
what if they are twins?
Rather learn about Mann than Hale family
My theory is that she sold her soul so when she dies she goes bsck to life and be her former known self
Her evil scheme is to administrate the wills of each will from the brothers and each blu and red team member
We all know that the debt the Administrator was talking is money that Marasmus owes here since 1830's
Everyone like whomever watched this when it was still called "Meet the Real Administrator"
CAN U DO ANOTHER MEET THE REAL TF2 VID???😢😢
My fav Welsh TF2ber
called it
Prepare to attack the enemys balls
-tf2 comander
I've always wondered how long would someone would have to be exposed to oure Australiam until they grow permanent super abilities including strength intelligence and most if all immortality such as mr hale whom appears to ni linger need to reiley on the substance how ever due to how old the Administrators would be in contrast to Sexton that means it would have to have been an Inherited from the parent whom probably would have had to conceive of the child (IE Saxton Hale) in order to enhance the baby thus gifting it those same traits without the drawback as constantly needing more Australiam to keep those abilities such as fir the rest of Australia after they ran out however not even the youngest seem to have inherited the Australiam Powers from their parents meaning that perhaps a parent would need to be exposed for a long enough time as well as having a lot over time. Perhaps explaining why engineer appears to be even smarter than his grandfather or perhaps simply matched due to this.
What if her name is helen Elizabeth McLain after her voice actor ellen McLain
It's probable that Helen was the nickname given by Zephaniah to Elizabeth, and so the rest of the family stuck with it.
That makes no sense.
They only way that it doesn't make sense is a usage of nickname in official papers. Otherwise, why not?
Those names have no similarity. Stop being stupid. @@littlehorn0063
Sandvich
Who is she? The announcer from League of Legends, obviously.
G-Man
GlaDOS
Administrator
Hwo is more Powerfull ?
Isn't g-man magic or something?
(I dont really know half life lore)
to ''''''confirm this'''' her name is Elizabeth Helen.
I always that the administrator was just an old woman with the same goal as Gray: To get as much australium as possible, but it may turn out to have other motives. To be honest, this could possibly extend tf2 lore even further WITHOUT any more official sources, since Valve is too lazy to make any more lore for tf2.
what if elizabreh faked her death and took the name of helen
hales
Why is sniper wearing makeup and a wig on the thumbnail?
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9:52 She is a baddie😏
100% Hale first
9:47 dating in 2024 be like
Saxton hale enjoyers here.
na her real name is probably elizabeth helen
If this is the real administrator, imagine the fake one
The intro. The intro filtered out 90% of people I met in school. Maybe more. Luckily I am not one of them because I was hardened on early-mid FNaF Lore, before Security Breach. If you know you know
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in the first 10 comments!!
Wait, the REAL Administrator is Ellen McLain.
Shork burned the word REAL into my brain like a branding.
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You didn't really answer anything. You asked more questions then you did answering them, especially at the end. Nothing was 'solved', nor was her identity revealed. I love the editing of this video, but man do I dislike blatant clickbait.
U do realize the video says Investigate not answer right?
ugh actually shes called Classified! do more research before saying untrues on camera!!!!
Im the real Sigma.