Mindbender Review, Galaxyland Schwarzkopf Triple Looper | World's Best Indoor Coaster (Now Closed)
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Mindbender at Galaxyland in the West Edmonton Mall was the world's tallest and longest indoor roller coaster for many years. Built in 1985 by Schwarzkopf, Mindbender is an imposing coaster with some powerful positive G-forces.
On 1/30/23, Galaxyland announced this iconic coaster would never reopen and it will be removed. This video was filmed prior to the coaster's removal was known. A similar coaster is reopening at Indiana Beach this year in American Dreier Looping that should still give a comparable ride experience.
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What a legendary ride, may it rest in peace. This is a tough day for Alberta coaster enthusiasts, it was all we had, for now
Sad to see it go.
Canobie Coaster would say:
In June of 1986, Mindbender had the back car derailed during the third and final loop. This caused the car to slam into a concrete pillar damaging the car. This caused the lap bars to unlock throwing all four riders into the concrete, leading to the unfortunate deaths of three of the riders. The root cause of the accident was a faulty wheel assembly. The ride was not properly maintained due to issues translating the German maintenance manual. Mindbender did reopen the following year and it has run without incident ever since. However, several redundant safety measures were put in place that are to the detriment of future riders:
One, the trains were reduced from four cars to three cars. This reduced the coaster's capacity 25% and reduced the coaster's overall momentum.
Two, each car had the number of wheel assemblies increased from two to four. In order to do this, Mindbender's trains were comprised of three Schwarzkopf lead cars chained together.
Three, Schwarzkopf loopers were designed to run with just lap bars. The strong Gs on the loops naturally keep riders in their seats. After the incident though, seat belts were added. These do not impact the ride in my opinion. The other restraint that was added...
A) does impact the ride.
B) doesn't impact the ride either.
A
There is a quote that Canobie Coaster said in this video: Meanwhile, Mindbender runs as designed. "Runs as designed" means that the ride feels and runs based on its design and layout. In the quote, "runs as designed" reminds me of a quote from another coaster that Canobie Coaster would say:
PortAventura still duels these two coasters however the ride no longer runs as designed. There is a trim brake on the first drop sapping the ride's speed. You still get airtime in the first half, but the coaster peters out by the end. What about that, Canobie Coaster?
A) It is glass smooth
B) It is mostly smooth
C) It is far from smooth, it has shuffling in spots
C
About that coaster, Canobie Coaster would say:
PortAventura still duels these two coasters however the ride no longer runs as designed. There is a trim brake on the first drop sapping the ride's speed. You still get some airtime in the first half, but the coaster peters out by the end. What about that?
A) It is smooth
B) It has shuffling
B
Canobie Coaster would say:
Before delving into my experience on Mindbender, I want to note that the park often reverses the back car. This was not being done during my visit. While I definitely wish I could have experienced this coaster in reverse, it probably would have been extremely...
Disorienting and wild.
The quote that Canobie Coaster said: PortAventura still duels these two coasters however the ride no longer runs as designed. There, "runs as designed" refers to the trims on the turnarounds?
Stampida's drop trim
Canobie Coaster said in this video:
The only one I prefer is Mindbender's little cousin in Mexico in Quimera. Both Mindbender and Quimera have similar first halves, but if you saw my review of Quimera, you know la Feria removed all the brake runs from that ride. This causes Quimera to run unnaturally fast in the second half, augmenting the already powerful Gs of the final loop and causing some unintended airtime and laterals. Meanwhile, Mindbender runs as designed.
"Runs as designed" is when a coaster feels and runs based on its design and layout. There is another coaster, about that one imagine a quote that Canobie Coaster would say:
PortAventura still duels these two coasters however the ride no longer runs as designed. In the quote, "PortAventura still duels these two coasters" means that the park still operates the coaster with the two tracks together. "However the ride no longer runs as designed" means that while the racing coaster has an interesting layout, it has...
A) a big issue.
B) a minor issue.
Which one?
Trims
Canobie Coaster would say:
Before delving into my experience on Mindbender, I want to note that the park often reverses the back car. This was not being done during my visit. While I definitely wish I could have experienced this coaster in reverse, it probably would have been extremely nauseating and made it difficult to marathon in the back car. And on that note, Mindbender can be tricky to marathon as-is. That's especially true if you're bothered by the restrictive restraints or positive Gs. Mindbender pulls a whopping 5.2 Gs at the maximum. And this is not a fleeting moment, Mindbender has several high G spots and those forces...
Are strong.
There is another video with a quote that said:
PortAventura still duels these two coasters however the ride no longer runs as designed.
Ok
Canobie Coaster would say:
Before delving into my experience on Mindbender, I want to note that the park often reverses the back car. This was not being done during my visit. While I definitely wish I could have experienced this coaster in reverse, it probably would have been extremely nauseating and made it difficult to marathon in the back car. And on that note, Mindbender can be tricky to marathon as-is. That's especially true if you're bothered by the restrictive restraints or...
Slow line.
Got to love them circular Schwarzkopf loops!
And as I recall, this was actually the last coaster that Schwarzkopf himself both designed AND built (he did design Olympia Looping; but his company went bankrupt and construction was done by the amusement division of BHS; which was later bought out by Maurer AG). If his company didn't go belly up, I think Anton would have designed some intense hyper coasters.
And the founded of Gerstlauer was a former Schwarzkopf employee.
I believe that's correct.
Nope, Schwarzkopf went bankrupt while building Mindbender. Anton Schwarzkopf was even fired by the new management which was put in place during the bankruptcy. This is why the manuals weren‘t translated properly in the end.
Yes, that is true. Today Gerstlauer even owns the former production facilities of Schwarzkopf.
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The quote that said in this video: Meanwhile, Mindbender runs as designed.
"Runs as designed" reminds me of another coaster, imagine the coaster that Canobie Coaster would say:
PortAventura still duels these two coasters however the ride no longer runs as designed. Do you know that one, yes or no?
Yes Stampida.
Ah, Mindbender....the epitome of "bucket list" coasters. The journey over there would be just as exciting as the coaster itself
It definitely was. I was on a small aircraft that landed in the middle of a snowstorm.
the one guy I know who made the pilgrimage... was not a coaster fan, and went because he was curious about the giant mall. No way would he be riding Mindbender.
With the phrase "runs as designed", I think I heard in another video a quote that Canobie Coaster said about a racing wooden coaster:
PortAventura still duels these two coasters however the ride no longer runs as designed. What are the differences there between "duels" and "runs as designed"?
And do you know that thing?
Duels is when two tracks interact. Runs as designed refers to the trims.
Man, I live in Canada and I was late to the party... I hope they can replace it with something else - custom RMC Raptor?
Honestly I'm more worried about what's gonna happen to Mindbender rather than what's gonna replace it (apparently just a bunch of family rides).
I'm worried it'll be replaced with all family rides.
So good! I have been riding this for months, and it's awesome.
Hopefully it reopens.
I’m too tall to ride this thing to begin with but I still almost cried when I heard it would be removed.
RIP
The sound is something else
It's intimidating.
Your description of the accident is a bit off. The wheels and undercarriage were off the car well before the final loop. Also the car hitting the pillar wasn’t what killed the three passengers they were thrown from the car prior to the final loop.
Thanks for clarifying!
Canobie Coaster said the quote in this video:
Meanwhile, Mindbender runs as designed. "Runs as designed", what does that mean?
Runs as originally intended.
What a bummer, the closest ride I've been on to mindbender is Zonga at Discovery Kingdom back in the day
Never got on that one.
Given my history as an enthusiast Mindbender will always have a special place for me, because this is the coaster that got me over the fear of inversions I had before 2014 when I rode this. As someone who was a very "GP enthusiast" at the time I loved speed and airtime but was terrified of inversions. I had ridden Superdooperlooper at Hershey (a visit where I was like "hell yea" when I saw Skyrush but needed to be talked into riding Superdooperlooper, a glorified mine train. I also picked up the rare credit of Roller Soaker on that trip, something I am not quiet about when the conversation turns to rare credits being that that thing was down over 80% of the time from what I understand) but I always squatted forward so I didn't actually go upside down through it's loop. I rode Mindbender 9 times within 30 minutes, don't know how I did it with the high Gs. But I did it. The coaster that cemented me as an enthusiast 4 months after riding Mindbender is on the other side of Canada, Leviathan.
I don't know how they dispatched that many trains in 30 minutes lol
But I'm glad you were able to conquer your fear.
@@CanobieCoaster I was 1 of 6 people in the park when I was there (one of them being my baby cousin and 2 more of them not being able to do coasters, all of us were in 1 group. Only myself and my dad wanted to do Mindbender), it was a weekday so they were doing 1 train ops so they weren't rotating and they let me stay on for 3 cycles at a time, presumably because of G-forces. The fact that I barely met the height requirement at the time (which is insanely high compared to what I've seen at other parks) is probably a big reason the restraints didn't bother me as I know kids tend to be less phased by bad restraints.
Lucky!
rest in peace to a legend
Sad to see it go.
@@CanobieCoaster there is a tiny chance of it being saved hopefully if premiere could do something about it
Galaxyland seems like the type of place to keep Mindbender open but not let any guests ride for safety
Those test cycles...
Was just at galaxy land about 3 weeks ago, the park was opened but the mind bender wasn’t running. Galaxy land doesn’t seem the same without the iconic roar of the coaster.
That's a bummer.
Right!
same! and yea it’s sucks :( i been wanting to go on it
That accident really goes to show you that maintenance is extremely important, especially on older coasters like Mindbender, and any Schwarzkopf, Arrow Dynamics, or wood coasters. The parts for older coasters, especially for those for Arrow and Scwarzkopf coasters, are not even common anymore, and so it's important that there is extremely good maintenance. Plus, it's important to run a ride as designed, and I can't say that Quimera and La Feria should have operated that way without trim brakes. That's not a mature way for the park to handle this ride and maintain it so poorly. For that reason, Six Flags Mexico should really be the only park to go in Mexico, since Six Flags has resources for the team there to maintain their rides well.
The scary thing about the Mindbender accident is that it occurred shortly after the ride opened. It had nothing to do with the ride being old.
@@CanobieCoaster That too
And now this coaster's track is sitting in a scrapyard, truly a tragic end for one of Canada and Schwarzkopf's best coasters. I was hoping both this and Tsunami down in Mexico (better known as Thriller or Zonga) would be saved, but alas both ended up in dumps. really there was no one interested in buying them? That's hard to believe. Guess the park thought they'd make more selling them as scrap. Well, to be fair, Tsunami was going to be relocated to Germany but didn't live up to safety standards or what not, so it never happened, but with Mindbender there's no evidence the park even tried to sell it. At least, we have Drier Looping opening at Indiana Beach, but that's shorter and less intense than Mindbender. Galaxyland will suffer from this decision, such as by never getting my money which I planned on giving to them someday, because Mindbender was a bucket list coaster of mine, but now that's it gone, screw them , no money for them, in fact I help the park closes down, screw them. Mindbender was the reason anyone outside of Alberta visited the mall.
It's sad to see it scrapped.
Did you hear that mindbender is closing for good? They can’t get replacement parts so therefor there going to replace it
I did not. Where was this announcement?
On a youtube comment coming from a galaxy land employee a video from knotts berry fan
Unfortunately, today it has been announced that mindbender will be removed.
Sadly
Rip another legendary Schwarzkopf
I know. It's sad.
Rest in peace.
It will be missed.
Any word on where this is going?
Sadly I believe it is being scrapped.
this ride was on my on fyp on tiktok and i didn’t know the name of the ride but now your in my recommended so now i know :D
Glad you know the name now!
@@CanobieCoaster yes :D
RIP LEGEND
RIP
I doubt I'll ever ride this but it looks cool
The mall is worth a weekend trip if you're ever out that way.
Thankfully live 5 hours away so able to come to galaxy land whenever ! By far favorite rollercoaster I’ve ridden in Canada. Love riding it backwards.
When did you come visit??? Looks like Alberta is headed into another lockdown this week. Can’t wait to go back into the city once Covid19 cases subside
I visited in January 2019. I spent a weekend at Galaxyland, World Waterpark, and the Mall.
It's not that big of a deal, a CNC machine and fabricating shop could easily reproduce parts for this. A foundry could cast new parts. Restore it and keep it going.
I wish they paid to keep it going.
We go to Edmonton every year and for the past 4 years, every time we were there the mind bender has been closed. Now I hear they are tearing it down completely
That's a bummer if it's being removed.
So what's up with the "RIP 1985-2023" Tombstone on the thumbnail? Is this ride going away or is this straight-up clickbait?
I added a note in the description. The park announced this ride is now closed and will be removed.
@@CanobieCoaster NOOOOO!!!!!
Is it longer than Crazy Bats/TOTNH at phantasialand?
In terms of length yes, Mindbender is 4198 feet long. Crazy Bats is 3852 feet long. Crazy Bats probably has a longer duration though with those 3 lifts.
@@CanobieCoaster Ok thank you!!
Hey Quimera actually is getting relocated to Indiana Beach!
Yes! I made a video on it.
@@CanobieCoaster Weird! I didn’t get a notification from being a subscriber.
@@roxynano I randomly have that happen for me too, but then RUclips fixes itself the next day.
@@CanobieCoaster It is so weird, either way the coaster lives on!
nice
Thanks
Pretty much my exact same thoughts on the ride! When I walked to the ride, I was completely unprepared for just how massive this coaster is. It's incredible that an indoor coaster of this size even exists. Excellent review!
Thanks again for the POV! I agree this coaster's presentation is quite something.
I've been on Mindbender a few times. The only issue I have with it the shoulder restraints. There are some bumpy parts (during the small hills) your shoulders hit the restraints. I asked my husband who is 6 ft 5 if it happend to him too and he said it did. Other than that I recommend people to try Mindbender at least once, and the other 4 seater roller coaster that's in Galaxyland.
I always jam the restraint into my shoulder so I don't have extra movement.
I would love to see Mindbender get those new Intamin lap bars and new trains for more comfort and better operations.
I can dream, but I doubt it'll happen due to the old accident.
Very nice review! This is a bucket list coaster for me as I quite enjoy MindBender at SFOG and Shockwave at SFOT.
It's excellent if you crave positive Gs.
It sucks cause I planned a trip to Edmonton for MindBender right before they announced it’s permanent closure😅
Sorry!
It's on my bucket list. I don't know if I would like it more than Shockwave, considering the scary airtime that gives in the back. How do these double loops compare to Shockwave's 5.9G double loops? I do love these intense rides, even though I don't grey out anymore. I wish Texas Tornado/Zonga would get rebuilt somewhere. It was SBNO for me at Astroworld in 2002. It looked totally insane!
sadly, even if zonga does get rebuilt, its loops would not be as intense because of the retrofit that six flags and premier rides gave it
I think these loops are comparable to the two on Shock Wave.
Zonga was scrapped a few months ago
Texas Tornado was pretty insane and I felt honored to have it at my home park even if for such a short time. The shoulder restraints on Mind Bender look like the ones on Texas Tornado. Except the ones on Texas Tornado seemed to have a dynamically variable height setting. Meaning you could set them comfortably off of your shoulder before the ride started and at the end of the ride, they would be lower down compressing you into the seat. You could counter this by pressing your entire back flat against the back of the seat and keeping it there for the duration of the ride. Apparently they got enough complaints because AstroWorld ordered new trains which a different style of OTSR. But, it appears the new ones were even worse as it was open for less than a day with the new trains and never opened again after that.
@@gregorymoore2877 That's cool that you were able to ride Texas Tornado. That is sad if the new trains were the reason for its demise. I didn't know that prior to that, it used the same restraints as Mind Bender. I would prefer to keep the shoulder bars low, since I tend to have issues with headbanging, mostly with the ones from B&M, because those sit quite a bit higher than those from Arrow or Vekoma. Lower head restraints are better for me. No head restraints are best, which helps makes Shockwave so good. I still would have loved to have ridden Texas Tornado & Edmonton's Mind Bender, but hopefully Indiana Beach can get theirs open.
I have never heard of them reversing the last car! That’d be insane! I was left disappointed by Shockwave, so I wonder how I’d feel about this one...
Mindbender is for you if you love positive Gs. The loops on this one are comparable to the ones on Shock Wave, but you don't have the airtime hills.
@@CanobieCoaster I don’t know what was wrong with me cuz when I rode Shockwave, it was 108 degrees the afternoon I rode it during a heat wave and I didn’t gray out or anything from the G’s. I think it’s fair to say I was dehydrated too lol maybe I went in with such high expectations, I became blind to anything less than what I had heard about it, idk 🤷🏻♀️ I didn’t get much force from Silver Bullet either. Those are the only looping models of his I’ve been on
@@Joypyf Shock Wave is probably the most forceful in the US and that one consistently causes me to see grey. Which rides do that for you (if any)?
@@CanobieCoaster first turn on I305, launch on Kingda Ka, the helixes on Nitro, Raging Bull, and Backlot Stunt Coaster, Batman clones, and Superman’s pretzel loop were the first handful that came to mind! I think I’m pretty sensitive lol
I find the greyout on Shock Wave more consistent than all those rides except Backlot Stunt Coaster and I305.
These cars look so tiny. I dont even think anyone over 5ft 11 can fit in these comfortably and Im 6ft 2!
They are very cramped.
A 9.5 - wow! I don’t know when I’ll be able to get to this coaster, but I’ve been on Quimera so maybe I’ve sort of experienced it ...
As far as positive G focused coasters go, Mindbender is darn near perfect. Only the restraints keep it from being perfect. Mindbender's first half feels identical to Quimera, but the second half is actually trimmed ever so slightly.
How did you like Quimera compared to Shockwave at SFOT and Mindender at SFOG?
Alan Trotter Are you asking me? I have not been on Mindbender, unfortunately. Quimera felt a lot more compact than Shockwave, constantly doubling back on itself, and Quimera was a lot more intense in terms of g-forces and in terms of wild and weird moments of airtime/laterals.
@@StamfordBridge I was actually asking about Quimera compared to Shockwave and MindBender at Six Flags Over Georgia.
Alan Trotter D’oh! I completely glossed right over your mention of SFoG, probably because of the topic of this video. But actually, my answer doesn’t change. SFoG is the largest park in North America that I have yet to get to. I had plans to go the summer before last but got a concussion on i305 and had to cancel the tail end of that trip. Then this last summer I went to no parks. So, it remains very high on my US to do list.
wow those are some pretty strict operational policies
I'm stunned they haven't been able to loosen them after 3.5 decades without incident.
@@CanobieCoaster well i guess they still want to take every precautionary measure they can
I think the worst I've heard is someone say the ride can close in rain, but I hope that isn't true. Only other time I've seen that was a coaster in Dubai since the roof leaks.
@@CanobieCoaster yeah ive heard that too before, thats rly weird
actually a way you could make this into a trip is by doing some sight seeing in northern montana about 6 hours away
That's still a pretty long drive, but it would work if you were there already.
Is Quimera closed down for good or are they relocating it
The fate of that entire park is currently up in the air.
Jrax 17. If you haven't herd quimera is being relocated to Indiana beach
great review! Ive always wanted to ride this, but like most America Enthusiasts...i wont😂
It took me a while, but I tacked it onto a West Coat trip and am glad I did.
This is one of those places that has a common problem I always ask myself. What else is there to do in the area to make my visit worth while. Are there any major attractions nearby or maybe any ski hills in the winter time as well to experience?
I'm not a skiier so I didn't look into that. The mall had enough entertainment to keep me busy with Galaxyland, the World Waterpark, and weird stores.
@@CanobieCoaster Okay but what about outside the mall? Is there anything else to do in the city of Edmonton.
I didn't venture outside the mall, so I'm not sure.
@@mitchellries256 Depends on what you’re looking for. Edmonton’s about 4 hours away from the Rockies, and there’s great ski hills there. If you’re into museums there’s a few good ones, including a pretty decent living history one. Otherwise there’s the river valley that’s pretty cool, and a historic street that’s the center of the nightlife. Not sure how good that is. It’s definitely not a tourist town, more of a roughish blue collar city with a decent downtown as well, although that area can be pricey and sterile in most areas away from the city hall (still reasonably safe). There are a few areas that are a bit sketchy but still reasonably safe during the day. The winters are long and can be pretty cold. I’d say you could stay a week or less before getting bored depending on what you like to do and the season be. All in all it’s not a bad city, but most people come for a specific reason rather than just to visit.
Late reply, but I'll give it the best go I can. There are a few ski hills within the city (Snow Valley, Sunridge, and Rabbit Hill), as well as Edmonton Ski Club, but LRT construction has really hampered the operation of the Edmonton Ski Club. If you're used to mountain skiing, they're probably nowhere near the same. Jasper is a few hours away, Banff is 4-5 hours depending on how you drive and where you stop.
Muttart Conservatory is rather lovely to visit. I'm curious how it is now that they've done their deep maintenance on it (it was closed for 18 months to overhaul a bunch of the inner workings).
Edmonton Space and Science Center (now known as the Telus World of Science Edmonton) has a lot of interesting things to it, including adults only events.
The Royal Alberta Museum is located downtown (take an Uber or taxi if you can, parking downtown is outrageously expensive) and word is it's a rather nice facility. In the same area is also the Art Gallery of Alberta.
High Level Bridge is pretty neat looking, and even has a streetcar running on top of it during the summer. Garneau Theater in the same area is rather interesting as well. If you do check out the Garneau Theater, stop by La Poutine in the same area for some really good poutine too.
Elk Island National Park is about 45 minutes to the east. Pack bugspray and sunscreen if you go in the summer, as there's usually a ton of mosquitos.
The Ukranian Cultural Heritage Villange is interesting, if you're into such things.
The University of Alberta's Botanical Garden is apparently rather lovely - I say apparently because it used to be known as the Devonian Garden, but I've never been due to it being outside of the city.
Reynolds Museum is in Wetaskiwin, about 45 minutes or so out of town if I remember correctly
Three hours south in Calgary there's also Calaway Park, but I've heard mixed reviews about the Vortex coaster.
Also approximately three hours south of Edmonton is Drumheller, which has a variety of things to see. There's obviously the Royal Tyrell Museum, with a good amount of dinosaurs, the hoodoos, and the general badlands scenery when visiting (pack water, sunscreen, and keep an eye on the heat, it gets surprisingly warm there). The Star Mine Suspension Bridge is pretty neat too, as is the remains of the Atlas Coal Mine
Approximately 4-4.5 hours to the south/southwest there's Head Smashed In Interpretive Center (now known as Head Smashed-In Buffalo Jump World Heritage Site). Writing On Stone National Park is also "relatively near" here too. Frank Slide is rather interesting as well, doubly so if one wants to see the aftermath of digging too deep into an unstable mountain...
Oh yeah, there's also arguably Vulcan, Alberta, if you're a Trekkie. No idea what it's like, as I've never been there.
Edmonton has the Valley Zoo, but if you're into zoos I'd say time is much better spent going to the Calgary Zoo, as it's significantly better. I have to have a bit of a disclaimer there though - I haven't been to the Valley Zoo since 2011 or so, before they started all their new construction.
They should have added comfort collars rather than bulky OTSRs!
Those would have been better for sure!
I hope it reopens somewhere else
Me too.
Mine binder looks like the BEST coaster in Canada, and didn’t you hit 1000 subs like a month ago now you have about 2000 that’s crazy!
I personally prefer Coaster at PNE Playland by a long shot and Leviathan, but it's probably 3rd or 4th.
I ya I totally forgot about that, coaster at PNE playland looks a lot better
Does mindbender have wheelchair accessible exit or entrance?
I don't recall off the top of my head, but I imagine it would. The park would be able to confirm.
@@CanobieCoaster thank you for reply back hope you have safe hoilday season!
Thanks, you too!
No. While it has a ramp at the entrance, there is a single set of stairs that lead to the roller coaster and the Space Shot and it’s not wheel chair friendly
I would love to head over there someday to ride it, I’ll say the absolute most intense vertical loops I’ve been on were Dragon at Adventureland in Iowa.
I rarely gray out on coasters at all, I love Maverick and every second of it but I never grayed out on any coaster really.
EXCEPT for Dragon at Adventureland. Even though the rest of the ride is bad, the main drop and those vertical loops are insane and I finally grayed out on a coaster.
Looking at the pacing of Mindbender and knowing a typical Schwarzkopf loop, I am expecting a similar feeling but more intense than Dragon.
Dragon's loops were underrated and intense, but these ones are on another level.
@@CanobieCoaster Maybe I’ll experience my first black out on a coaster then?
I also rarely grey out, even slightly. I don't remember much from my one ride on Dragon, but I know I didn't grey out. However, I actually blacked out on Viper at Magic Mountain, on the double loops. My body had been worn down over 2 days from tons of rides on all the intense beasts at that park. I had a few seconds of lost time. I didn't grey out beforehand. I felt myself starting to lose consciousness, then suddenly, we were about 4-5 seconds further down the track. It was pretty cool!
@@OklahomaCoasterFan Well I need to head over to Viper! It seems that double loops seem to equal gray or black out no matter what.
Lucky I live 10 minutes away!
Nice!
i wish i didnt ride it as a kid cuz i wanna ride it again but i gotta get those new creds
But you can say you've been on it at least!
Hey, my local coaster!
Nice!
Ur Local Coaster Crashed In 1986
It isn't the longest indoor coaster thats crazybats at phl!
In terms of track length, this one is 200-300 feet longer. I agree Crazy Bats has a longer ride duration since that one has 3 lifts.
I don't live very far from Edmonton, and I've had the chance to ride this thing a few times.
And I'll say, riding the reversed car ONCE is enough. It is exactly as you imagine. Fear inducing and somewhat disorienting.
I wish I could've tried it.
However, for me, Colossus the Fire Dragon is better.
Not for me.
I could tell you this ride is intense the first time I've ridden it in 2012. I've seen your comment on my video and my response is go ahead, Take as much as you want. I also got some Silverwood footage you can use for your videos as well if you're into reviewing Silverwood coasters.
I want to get back there before making a series of Silverwood videos.
No you would not want to be there on June 14 1986
That was a bad day.
Yes it was
Is this better than the US Schwarzkopfs?
For me, yes.
@@CanobieCoaster Better than the German ones?
I much prefer this to Olympia Looping and Nessie.
Why did Schwarzkopf even go bankrupt? It seems to me that they produced popular coasters and flat rides.
Was their fraud involved? To high construction/manufacturing costs?
I'm not entirely sure to be honest. Everything I heard was that Schwarzkopf was a great designer, but not the best businessman.
The story I heard is that Schwarzkopf was a perfectionist. Which can be great if you want to offer a quality product, which is what Schwarzkopf offered. But, it costs money to achieve certain levels of quality and if you spend more money producing a product than you make selling that same product, even if you sell a bunch of them, well... that's not sustainable. Whatever the details of their bankruptcy are, I can't say.
Would like to ride, but you have to be 5 feet tall to ride which I think is ridiculous.
And that goes back to the restraints. I forgot the height limit was that low. My girlfriend barely clears that!
8:47 mindbending effect... pun intended?
Absolutely!
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No worries!
Good lol
In no way am i trying to discredit you're video as it is great content and a super well done detailing of the description for the coaster! however as a Edmonton resident who used to ride religiously... I can assure you it's the third loop that holds the MAX-G sections upon the crest of the entering bend and exiting bend as it is just ever so slightly smaller and tighter than the 2 back to back... However it's deceiving in that exactly because they are just about as tight AND back to back it is arguably more intense as it's longer sustained excitement level in the moment 😉
It's entirely possible!
@@CanobieCoaster No, no you misunderstand. i'm telling you it is! lol there is no arguing the laws of physics, sharper tighter curves in any direction = stronger more intense G-force... period... this is tried and true knowledge taught in aviation school as just one example of many 🤣... again the only argument to be made is with personal experience on the ride because 2 are back to back and one is more G-force... you and i can argue as witch part felt more intense all we want but laws of physics in the end tell us BOTH to go f our selves! 🤣i did ride it like 1000 times too so your not going to tell me what the back of my hand looks like bro i'm sorry 🤣you were just a visitor wile i used to be a regular on there 🤣and thats all i have to say about this
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@@CanobieCoaster okay i wasnt going to say anything else but i just found this ROFL! test readouts are after the helix
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Canobie Coaster would say:
In June of 1986, Mindbender had the back car derailed during the third and final loop. This caused the car to slam into a concrete pillar damaging the car. This caused the lap bars to unlock throwing all four riders into the concrete, leading to the unfortunate deaths of three of the riders. The root cause of the accident was a faulty wheel assembly. The ride was not properly maintained due to issues translating the German maintenance manual. Mindbender did reopen the following year and it has run without incident ever since. However, several redundant safety measures were put in place that are to the detriment of future riders:
One, the trains were reduced from four cars to three cars. This reduced the coaster's capacity 25% and reduced the coaster's overall momentum.
Two, each car had the number of wheel assemblies increased from two to four. In order to do this, Mindbender's trains were comprised of three Schwarzkopf lead cars chained together.
Three, Schwarzkopf loopers were designed to run with just lap bars. The strong Gs on the loops naturally keep riders in their seats. After the incident though, seat belts were added. These do not impact the ride in my opinion. The other restraint that was added does impact the ride, and that would be the accordion-style shoulder harnesses.
There are two ways to position the harness. Both have their pros and cons depending on your personal preference:
The first is to keep the shoulder pads high. The benefit here is that you'll have some clearance between your shoulder and the restraint. This gives you more freedom. The downside is that you will likely hit your head several times due to the snappy transitions that this coaster has.
The second is to press the shoulder pads tightly against your shoulders. This will really lock you into place and they can dig into your shoulders, but it will allow your head to...
Not move around.