Orange Micro Dark DI headphone out Cab Sim
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The Orange Micro Dark is a great little amp with loads of great features, like the effects loop and Headphone out that also acts as a DI or Cab Sim. That means you can plug a lead into the headphone out and into your computer or mixing desk to simulate a 4x12" cab.
My band use the Orange Micro Dark headphone out CabSim in all our rehearsals. We rehearse silently with an electronic drum kit, DI'd bass and the guitar running through this little amp. We all then wear headphones so we all have a great mix that doesn't deafen you.
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Just bought a Two Notes Torpedo Captor X (8 ohm). I have the Micro Dark, and the Terror StAmp. The Captor X allows me to operate at higher volumes, push the other tone shapes to be able to load the tube then attenuate before hitting the IR cab sims that come with the unit. I have pre-Amp pedals, and others in the FX Loop. It is an amazing set up for a minimalist, small studio, and the cheapest configuration I found with over 100 different IRs (I bought a few more of my heroes to add to the complimentary 32).
Looking for a good recording amp and wanted an Orange for awhile. All I hear is people trashing this amp for recording, but never giving examples. You've definitely put my concerns to rest. Gonna have to grab one of these for sure! Great playing. Thanks for the video!
Orange makes some very nice amps. Thanks for the video.
A pleasure mate. Absolutely love this little amp. Genuinely shocked at how loud it goes and also at how good it sounds. Great impulse purchase. I do have some fun plans for it very soon
I don't know why this is ever advertised as having a cab so. it sounds exactly like plugging direct into the preamp. Which is great if you have an impulse response to plug it into. Honestly there's something else about the " phones " out. Doesn't sound anywhere near as good as using the send from the back to an impulse response or just micing the speaker.
my reaction exactly what the hell?
what the hell is this guy seriously on about, I thought he was going to acknowledge the fact that it sounds trash and exactly how it would without an IR yet he just brags about how great it sounds? Is he an idiot or what
nice video and run down. I would've much prefered the high gain stuff to be done in the bridge position though so I could hear how riff's really sound. The cleans on the neck didn't sound to bad for a cab sim. Overall it's not too bad.
Completley unrelated question: you scraped off the paint on your studio right, to make it look like binding ? Do you have a video on how you did that or where did you get the idea from to see if i can do the same to mine ? Looks cool.
Thanks
Great video! I just got this amp and it's my first 'real' one (my other one was a brandless 10 watt thing my friend gave to me since he wasn't using it anymore, it sounded like a shoebox 😂). I like to practice with the headphone cab sim since I live in a studio apartment and don't want to annoy the neighbours! But I've noticed it really doesn't as good compared to when you run it through a speaker... 😅 Guess I need to take a bit more time EQing it then. You're video was super helpful! (though unlike you, I really love playing with the gain high on this thing 😂)
Its always best to put time based fx through your fx loop otherwise you will get a mushy rather nasty sound as soon as you add plenty of gain. The fx loop puts fx after the pre amp, so that you can avoid the harshess of time based fx straight in the input, when using gain. Distortion pedals/pre amps are fine at input and very useful to drive an amp further. The Micro Dark is pretty gainy so I personally find it plenty. Great little amp for the money😊
I do agree with you wise Sir. everyone needs a TUNAA!!
It sounds like it has no cab simulation and is just a DI signal, sort of similar to what modelers do when you turm off cab sim. Not a pleasant sound at all
Thinking about getting one to be able to record silently in new apt....will miss my hotrod deluxe but this sounds decent enough and takes up almost no space!
Wondering if the headphone/Cabsim out of these are capable of the same "hack" the Mini Vox Mv50 head's can do?
What I mean is that you can simply unplug the Vox's 1/4 jack by one notch and thus bypass the analog cabsim?
Worth a try IMO.
Cheers!
Was really disappointed in this when I got mine, wonder if it's worth getting a Cab Sim and putting it in the FX Loop out.
Good tones can be had by adding an ir in front of the send output or "cab Sim out" headphone output
All in all good sounding amp when it's plugged into the right cab but orange could have done a better job with the headphone out I can't stand playing on it through headphones
I'm sorry, but it doesn't sound very good to me. It would be infinitely better if you used an IR, or just plugged into a 2x12.
When use a headphone out, does it need a speaker output to speaker?
Thank
No it does not
The only application I can think of for this sound is as a torture device lol
Apologies for the idiotic question, but just to be clear, you're going straight to the mixer from the headphone socket, no need for a DI box? Thinking of buying one and want to make sure before I blow anything up!
hi, to use the computer as a guitar cab, what kind of guitar interface do you recommend for a macbook pro? i saw someone using a mooer radar pedal for a better cab sim but im not sure if thats all you need? orange micro dark -> mooer radar -> guitar interface? -> macbook? thanks!
If you are actually listening through headphones, should it be stereo?
With headphones plugged into the head you get the sound in both ears. Playing just the guitar with no pedals it's not really stereo as there is only one instrument - but it is not just sound in one ear of the headphones if that's what you mean.
No no no Man! You have to get out of the send in a cabinet simulator, mooer-torpedo...after you enter the audio interface (scarlett?)😊😊
Question out of curiosity: Can you run this amp without a cab?
Yes. It does not need a speaker cab to run as long as you use the headphones slot.
If I direct recording from headphone jack, do i still need to plug the speaker output to a cab? I have asked a store which sell this amp, they said even you plug the headphone jack, the speaker output still need plug to a cab because there is electricity on it or you may broke the amp. Is it true?
Hi! I had the same doubt. This is what the manual says:
“If the Phones jack is not in use, a suitable speaker cabinet must be connected at all times during use.”
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I've been using mine for a while as just headphone out going to the interface. I think what the quote above means is something like this
While in use:
Cab output- OK
Headphone output -OK
Cab output and headphone output - OK
No outputs - NOT OK
You can use the FX send only to the interface according Orange. There is the answer received
Yes you are correct.. The Micro Dark has a solid state power amp which doesn't need to be connected to a speaker or a load (unlike valve amplifiers).
I hope this clarifies.
Thanks!
@@Joeytemper so is using just the FX send and no cab or headphone output ok?
do you think it may make a difference going from the phone output, to separate DI (e.g. Rupert Neve DI), then into line input on DAC. Or does the head just have a thin low-end output in general?
I’d only use a DI if you have a long cable run, if not, just run it straight into the desk or interface
@@PherotoneStudios But why? What's the DI got to do with a long cable run? The impedance matching properties of a DI (from a high impedance guitar pickup/signal to a low impedance signal suitable for a preamp) wouldn't fix the issues of cable capacitance, such as a loss of high-end. Not doubting your logic, just genuinely curious and not understanding what a DI will do to fix cable run issues...
@@johnforrestal *_Crickets…_*
@@johnforrestal Old comment, but may be a question others have. A balanced cable is used to connect a DI to whatever destination. Balanced cables use inverted polarity conductors to minimize noise picked up on long runs via common mode rejection.
Orange had to have revised the headphones out chip/circuit, I have an early 2016 version and its so noisy its useless. Or better said: that's good news.
What happens if you just plug the output into an interface?
That’s exactly what we used to do with the headphone output
@@PherotoneStudios is the headphone output different from the speaker output though?
@@jaycray97 Yes, you could fry your interface if you use the speaker out instead of the headphone out
@@jamespalmer5396 thank you!
For the Cabsim Output do you use a Regular Guitar Cable or a Speaker Cable? Or it doesn't matter?
just your standard 6.35 mm headphone jack (same size as guitar cable)
What he said, but make sure the lead is purple
Instant 90's/late 80's BM tone with this headphone out. Seriously, get this, run a boss metalzone through its FX loop, and record from the Headphones out onto a shitty tape dictaphone/walkman/some form of shitty cheap tape recorder, with an old, worn down Type 1 tape (has to be the crappiest quality tape and Type 1). Do all that, and play mostly tremolo picked riffs, add a drum machine that plays a continuous blast beat and distorted shrieky vocals, with lyrics about satanism or the occult, and you've made a trve kvlt 90s second wave of black metal song.
Lmao I just bought one of these for home recording and didn't even know it had a built in amp sim!! Lucky me! XD
Hi there mate, your opinion is very valuable to me, i want to swap my Boss KTN 100 mk2 for a Micro Dark + cab 12'' Greenback G12m in it. What would you say? I hate Katana speaker.
They’re very different. You’d get more sounds out of the katana although the micro dark is sort of a valve amp.
Personally I’d get a katana, add a speaker output and use another cab - that’s what I do. I noticed that every cab, including the coffee table with a speaker built into it that I made, sounds better than the stock katana speaker
@@PherotoneStudios thank you soo much mate! Appreciated a lot! I’m not talented enough to change it by myself but i think i’ll find a way!
Thanks for the video mate. So curious question. Would you be able to use this as an amp head and run the output through a cab? Just curious on the benefits of a proper amphead.
I’m not quite sure what you mean? It has a speaker output which I’ve run through a cab. Sounds fantastic
Yes... it has an 8ohm cab output jack and an effects loops in the rear of the head.
Your amp is just like mine then.... clean and light gain sounds decent but more gain and it's just turns into a fuzzy mess
At least it does through the headphone port.
I shall try and run the speaker out into the speaker of my marshall DSL40 which has a single 12 inch celestion v type.
Will have to see because I bought this amp with the idea to only use with headphones and so far, I've been less than impressed not because it sounds thin.... because when you gain it up on the headphone out it just completely falls apart.... it goes from mild blue breakup to fuzz very easy when what I'm after is a hard rock/metal sound
I JUST got this amp and it’s completely unusable at high gain which is what I bought to for. I don’t get it, everyone was giving this rave reviews for the gain but it sounds so bad
At least with headphones and the matching 1x8 cabinet
@@Tyler-rf5sg probably because most reviews have it running into a full size cab.
If you want a cheap good sounding cab then I'd suggest the Harley Benton 1x12 with the Celestion v30 in it. Easily the best value for money option for that amp.
Like I said before, the headphone out it garbage.
Get yourself an overdrive pedal as well to tighten things up a bit
sorry but for me the sound I hear is horrible ...
cab-sims hardly sound good.
i have the same micro head and exiting the fx send and using IR it sounds much better.
In fairness, no cab sims sound very good. The best by far is the boss katana but if you avoid using a cab sim, do it
@Matt Mad That's the way you should do it for obtain a real good sound, recording the micro terror via phones out gets you a terrible sound like in this video
Exactly, this “cab sim” is just horrible, i run my from fx send to line input on my interface and then put bias amp 2 power amp, transformer and cab sim there
@@kd318 Hi, very interesting... so you only use the fx send to line input the interface... without speaker plug to the amp? It doesn't scratch the amp?
I thought It could damage the amp. A valve amp Could be only use with speaker or headphone connection... (my question is for recording in silent and with an IR)
@@Dami1rush hi, for tube amps this is 100% correct and running it without speaker will break it. But this amp has solid state power amp and for that it is fine to run without a speaker, at least for this particular amp
Mate, stop using the neck pickup!!!! It sounds awful to me combined with the IR and the high gain stage.
Oronge distortion sounds like the old jazz rolland. Terrible
I'm going to have to burn my phone and headphones after listening to that. Christ that was awful.
that sounds horrible